Oct. 20, 2025

Will Turpin About The Collective Soul Story and Bourbon & Beyond 2025

Will Turpin About The Collective Soul Story and Bourbon & Beyond 2025
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PipemanRadio Interviews Will Turpin, Bass Player of Collective Soul About performance at Bourbon & Beyond Festival 2025 and Louder Than Life ten years before.

Other things we discuss:
30th anniversary of Collective Soul's 1995 self-titled album, often called the "Blue Album,"

Will Turpin's New Solo album Serengeti drivers and how he took over his Dad's Reel 2 Reel Studios in 2018 after his Dad's passing.  This studio is legendary and it's where Collective Soul's beginning is.

Give Me A Word: The Collective Soul Story: The Collective Soul Story - a documentary that was an Amazon best seller upon announcement and debuted at #1 in Billboard’s internal Music Video Chart (7/23/25)!! 

How Collective Soul recorded virtually all of HERE TO ETERNITY inside a house once owned by Elvis and Priscilla Presley. Called the “Elvis Presley Palm Springs Estate.


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Hi, you live done too year censure.

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For see Wow for you young?

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Did I end up here?

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I would like to now invite you into work for

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that could sold.

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Started October of ninety three, but I didn't have a band.

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It was just me in a basement making these songs.

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And my brother Bean was going to Georgia stay, and

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I said, just take this tape in there. He started

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playing shine and people loved it. It was it was crazy.

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If people called in what is this song? I want

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to hear more of it?

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It was like within two months, I'm on one on

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MTV everything. We're a bunch of country bumpkins that just

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are like, what is going on? We were gone my.

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Next Yes one of those fire for their bands and

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music today, please welcome Collective Soul.

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Now we're getting when parents bringing their kids and it

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becomes a generational connection.

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People tell you how much it means to them, how

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much the songs mean to them, that we've become the

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soundtrack to people's lives.

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I've been warning great songwriters of all time cover song

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my Room and.

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Win a Granny. I have love Collective Soul for more

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years than I count.

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If I don't write, if I don't play an instrument

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in the day.

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I'm not mean.

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He definitely has a lot of energy, because that dude

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does not stop writing, always writing, always creating. My mind

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doesn't shut off. The idea comes quick and then the

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song comes within an hour. Then I send it to Sean.

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He is all right, keep working. It's not the same

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well ever, I stumble without you.

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At fifteen, Ed was in a terrible car accident and

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lost his best friend, and then at twenty three he

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lost Chris.

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Chris was my mentor in life. In general, there is

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not a damn song I write that. I don't think

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what would he think.

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I wouldn't be here without you.

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Losing people that close to you at that age is devastating,

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and he's turned it into positive everything. So I won.

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God didn't promise our next breath. It's only the last one.

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We just took making music. That's the time of my

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life making music. I am as God made, and I

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like what I am. People ask me all the time,

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what's the best song you've written.

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I haven't written it yet.

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I'm still searching, but not be anything without them.

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That's how we got here.

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Fama, that's a trailer.

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That's a trailer.

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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures of

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Pipe Man w four Cy Radio. And I'm excited about

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our next guest, who killed it at Bourbon and Beyond

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back in September and has a lot of other things

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going on there really cool too. So let's welcome to

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the show, Will from Collective Soul. How are you.

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What's up man? Doing well? Doing well?

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Yeah, So let's start off there Bourbon Beyond. Okay, the

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last time I think you played a wimmer festival or

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something there was at Louder than Life like ten years before.

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So what I thing's really cool about Bourban Beyond is

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a band like yours could play both Bourban Beyond and

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Louder than Life.

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Yeah. Yeah, we you know, Collective Soul we get to

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We're kind of lucky, man in the fact that we

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can we can lend our our sound can lend itself

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to a lot of different festivals, like we'll we'll literally

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sometimes be it a almost you know, almost like hard

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rock metal festival. Sometimes, Uh, we changed the set list

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up a little bit, and uh, you know, and I

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think even your hardest head rockers are ready to relax

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a little bit by the time, you know, we got

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an all day festival. By the time we play World,

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I know, I even see the hardcore dudes are like,

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all right, cool, I got a song I can relax to.

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Now, you know, right. And I am one of those

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you know, heavy heavy metal heads, but I, as all

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of us, we all like different types of music. And

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of course in my age bracket similar to yours. You know,

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heavy then and heavy now are two different things, you know.

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Like I remember being a kid and Kiss was heavy.

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Led Zeppelin was heavy, and these kids today would probably say,

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what are you talking about?

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They're not Heavy's pop rock man.

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Right right, you know. And so it's kaik And I

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have a brother who's six years older than me, and

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he absolutely loves your band. And I would never be

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able to get him to a Louder than Life. He

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would go to a Bourbon Beyond, but he would never

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go to a Louder than Life because that would drive

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him nuts.

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A little too much rock for him. Yeah, last time

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we played there, it was a slash was with us,

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and uh we're on the same stage as Easy Top Man, you.

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Know right, that's pretty cool, right, yeah, you know, And

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so I did get lucky enough because when I'm at

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these festivals. Of course, by the time I get out

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of the press area, it's usually like time and it's

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time for the headliners. Like I think the last one

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I went to, I got out just in time for

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the headliner. But I was lucky enough. I don't know

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if it was lucky. I probably scheduled it that way,

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to be honest, but I made sure I was at

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your set at Bourbon Beyond and you guys killed it there. Man.

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Oh thanks, Man. Yeah, we're we've been doing it thirty

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one years now, and you know, we got Johnny rab

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on drums now, he's been with us since twenty twelve,

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Jesse Triplett since twenty thirteen. The band is really really fun,

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really fun lineup we have right now. We feel really

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strong about what we do and we try to take

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pride in it and put the best out there we

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can every night. Man.

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See, I love that you said fun because it amazes

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me how many artists are in the band and are

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not in the band in the in the music world

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and not having fun. And to me, if you're not

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having fun in the music businesses the wrong business because

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everything outside the fun kind of sucks, you know.

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Yeah, and you're playing music for a living. I don't know, man,

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I think that's just one of the philosophies we have.

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You know, we call it a celebration. You know, it's

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not a job. It's not a The job is all

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the hours out off the stage, you know. Yeah, we

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call it a celebration. Man. So when we're on stage

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playing music together and we include the people in the audience,

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you know, it's a celebration of life for everybody that's there.

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And and we our personality is the way we get along.

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We have fun on stage, you know, we have lots

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of our thing.

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I love that because it's funny.

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You know.

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I go and I do festivals all over the world.

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And I remember a couple of years ago, I was

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at Hellfest and there was one artist, huge, huge artists,

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and all he talked about in the press conference is

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how much touring sucks. And I'm thinking of my I'm

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thinking of myself, man, I would be that would be

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the most fun part for me. Like it might be

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time to end the music career if you think touring sucks,

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because that's kind of the biggest part of it, besides

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writing music too. Like both of them should be super fun,

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you know.

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Yeah, I always say that other than affording a lifestyle,

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you know, everybody's got to make money. But other than that,

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my favorite things about what we get to do are

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touring around, meeting new people, playing in front of different audiences.

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And then the other thing I love is I'm able

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to you know, have friends that are you know, legends

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or or peers of mine. You know, we just last

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weekend we were at a festival in dustin, Florida, and

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we were hanging out with Cheap Trick and Sticks thirty

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eight Special. All these guys were already friends with and

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then you see them again and it's really it's really

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gives me. Gives me a lot of positivity when I'm

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when I'm hanging out and talking to those people.

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Yeah, because like for you, a lot of your friends

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are out on the road anyway, so like that's where

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you go see your friends, right a.

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Lot of times. Yeah, And same thing with those cruises

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as we do. You know, we're on the Summer of

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ninety eight cruise in February twenty twenty six. But yeah, man,

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all those bands on there, we're all friends with and

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so we're stuck on a boat together for four or

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five nights and we have fun together.

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And I wanted to ask you about that since you

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brought it up. Then, like, how do you dig as

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an artist being on a cruise opposed to a normal festival,

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Because like I've done ship rocked and that for years

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they asked me to do it. I'm like, no, I

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don't think so. No, I don't think so. And now

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that I've done, and I'm like, oh my god, I

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would do these cruises all the time. They're badass.

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Yeah, we have fun. We get one now it seems

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like we're pretty consistent. There's one a year that we're doing. Yeah,

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they're fun and we you know, we actually we actually

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got a lot of fans that we enjoy talking to also,

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And I know that sounds weird with some some musicians,

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but uh, I enjoy hearing the feedback about Collective Soul.

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Most of our fans are really inspired by the lyrics.

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Uh.

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And they tell me stories about their lives and how

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music has affected it and uh and I find that

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to be I can talk about that for a long time.

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I found that to be like one of the one

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of the mysteries of the world is why why is

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music so powerful? You know? Why why can't it You know,

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I'll use the word change your life, you know, yeah, uh,

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And I'll only say that because, you know, in the beginning,

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when people we were doing this and people would say,

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you know, your song saved my life or got me

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through a point, you know, changed my life, we didn't

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take it too serious. And then after decades of touring

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and hearing the same things, you kind of start to

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understand a little bit about what they mean by that.

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And yeah, and in music, man, it's uh, you know,

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you you you already know how powerful the force is.

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But to me, the question is, you know, how does

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it how does it get to be there? And it's

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it's just it's a combination of lyrics and melody, but

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it somehow can it can nail your soul? Man, It

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can go right to your soul, and it can take

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you back to a certain time. It can remind you

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of a certain smell or flavor, you know, in the

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blink of an eyd. Just those frequencies hitting your ear

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can change the way you feel. And I love that.

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I know it's a fact, but I like to contemplate

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about what that really is. Sometimes.

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Yeah, it's cool, and you know, based on what you're saying,

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I think to myself. Yeah, when you're like young in

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the begain doing this and people are saying to you,

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you're like thinking, yeah, that's weird or something like that a

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little bit, you know, and then as you get along

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in your career you realize that, man, music does change lives.

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It's the best therapy there is, you know, both for you,

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the artists, me the listener, you know. And I mean it,

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it's funny making a pun on your band name, but

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it is. I feel when I'm at a music festival,

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it's like a collective soul there, Like there are no outsiders.

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We're just all there to share this experience that you know,

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makes us feel better about everything and escape all the

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bullshit in the world.

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That's right, That's right. I mean nice pond. But yeah,

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you totally become a collective kind of consciousness when you're

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at a show together as an audience and the band.

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Yeah, totally. And so it blows my mind too, and

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it must blow your mind. Okay that this year twenty

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twenty five, you celebrated the thirtieth anniversary of your self

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titled album what they call the Blue Album. It's funny

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how so many of these type of albums are like colors,

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like Metallican's Black album and you know, and exactly they

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had to the red and the blue album. So like,

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does it trip you out that? Like you probably never

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thought way back when in ninety five that you'd be

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celebrating thirty years of this.

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Yeah, No, we didn't think that way. We definitely were

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always thinking about like what was very next. We weren't

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thinking we made it. We weren't thinking, look how cool

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we are, We're on MTV. But we were always thinking

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about the next thing that was right in front of us.

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We always wanted to do, you know, the next record

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or the next whatever it was. I mean, Collective Soul

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we released our first five records in seven years. Nice,

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So we didn't We weren't like stopping and smelling the roses.

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We thought there was so much work to do. And

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I think that attitude is what allowed us to become

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a band that's now thirty years later. Yeah. And the

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same thing goes with the attitude we had about the

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songs and and how the strength of songs is really

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what carries a career. It's it's not it's not anything else.

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The songs, the songs have to survive, and our music

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is definitely I can say, I can say pretty confidently

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now that the collective soul music will be played even

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when I'm gone, It'll still be around here.

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Well. And to your point, like the younger generation, a

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lot of them know your songs and they don't necessarily

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know where they know it from either. It's just like

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it's just an automatic thing.

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You know.

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I tell people, our music has pierced the fabric of society.

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You know, it doesn't matter if it's in family guy

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or the home depot when you're walking through shopping for something,

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or you know, they just started Amazon and started a

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new ad campaign and Sean is the Sean is the

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song on the ad campaign. Wow, it's all around you

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all the time now at this point. And yeah, the

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kids man that they go to the playlist, they check

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it out. They're like, okay, I like this nineties rock

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and they hit the playlist and you know, and I'm

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sure some of them were turned on to it by

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their the generations ahead of them, by their parents and

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people that they looked up to. But there's just as

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many twenty somethings in our crowd now as there are

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fifties and sixties, you know.

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Isn't that cool nowadays? Like I remember back in the eighties,

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like I would never when I was a teenager go

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see a band that was like in their fifties, sixties

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or whatever. And and also my dad would have never

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taken me to a show. And it's like nowadays, like

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I take my kid and my grandkids to shows.

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Yeah, it's no, it's not a big deal for us

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to see three generations at all. You just mentioned it.

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It's not a big deal for us to see somebody

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in their upper fifties, sixties, their son and their grandson. Man,

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you know, and that's been my hairs stand up right now.

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That's that's one of the coolest things that I think

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we can be a part of. And we're all of

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a sudden also now we're a part of a family's memories,

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things they got to create and do together. And that's uh,

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that's that's super powerful and super cool.

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It is totally cool. Now, let's step aside from Collective

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Soul for a second, talk about your new solo album, because, uh,

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you have some badass music of your own, and uh

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it's and then also you took over your dad's reel

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to real studios and has that feel.

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Yeah, that that's like you know something that you know

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first off, that studio Real to Real in Atlanta. You know,

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there's no collective soul without that studio. That's that's where

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we all met. That's where Ed honed his craft. We

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watched Ed hone his songwriting craft and he was head

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engineer there at my father's studio.

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Wow.

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So he in that studio on seven And when my

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dad passed away twenty eighteen, I just went in there

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a couple months after he had passed and I was like,

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I'm not letting this place go. So I've breathed some

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new life into the place and I'm producing a lot

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of people down there. It's mainly it's mostly people from

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out of state that are coming into work with me.

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So I tell people it's a recording studio, but it's

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it's mainly a production house. Most of the stuff in

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there is stuff I'm producing or co producing.

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That's pretty cool, And I think it's cool what you

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did because people will take two different roads when their

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parents pass away. Either they will take over the quote

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unquote family business, you know, and others can't handle it

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like I'm thinking like you walk in there after a

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couple of months, and there's got to be a lot

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of ghosts in there, you know, not literally, but you know,

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and maybe literally there's.

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Some spirit in there that's definitely my father's, right.

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I love that, you know. So it's kind of a

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weird feeling, right.

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Totally weird feeling. I embrace it and enjoy it. And ultimately,

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you know, I grew up in that studio. I know

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how to play almost every instrument, and I've seen every

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style of music go through there. From the youngest of ages,

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I was playing drum tracks for singer songwriters. When I

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was fourteen years old, I was already playing drum tracks

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for studio sessions nice. So ultimately, I've always wanted to

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always wanted to do more producing. I've produced some stuff

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on side, and you mentioned my solo record as well,

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but once my kids were all grown up. I've got

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three boys. My youngest is nineteen and he's in the

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studio all the time with me. My oldest is on

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stage with Collective Soul right now. He's playing all the

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keyboard parts, singing all the background vocals. You saw him

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at Bourbon and Beyond. That was my son playing the

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keys and singing with us.

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That's way cool.

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So so ultimately, yeah, now I've got time to pour

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a lot of time into the studio. Whereas before, between

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Collective Soul and raising three kids, I'd get home and

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I didn't necessarily want to go right back into the studio.

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And now it's like a it's a tight calendar. Sometimes

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I ask myself why I wanted to you know what,

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do I really want to be busier? But I do,

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And I want the next Collective Soul to come out

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there from another generation. I want the next band to

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come out out of real to real studios.

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I love it. And speaking of ghosts, okay, so you

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guys recorded Here to Eternity with the Presley Ghost.

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Yeah. Man, we like ghosts and spirits.

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Man oh man, So what was it like? You know,

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like that's got I'm having shovels right now just thinking

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about it. I imagine the whole time you're playing in there,

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like you're having chills.

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Yeah.

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And I think if somebody would have renovated the place,

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or somebody had been living there after Elvis, I think

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it would have been different. But it was, literally, man,

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it was it was. It was frozen in time. Man,

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it was just like Elvis left it. So many of

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the pictures and stories that we would look up that

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were archival pictures that place had not change and it

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was a little bit run down, but to our benefit

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because we wanted it to feel just like Elvis left it.

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We and we had met a friend of a friend

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who said he owned it and didn't know exactly what

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to do with it. And before he did start renovating

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it in the last year, but he was just taking

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his time on what to do with it because he

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had other properties in Palm Springs where he knew what

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he was going to do with it. He just he

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just had this Elvis estate. And of course our idea

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was let let the rock band get in there and

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record a record. Yeah, and we bought all the gear

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in all of our instruments, you know, had our had

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our sound man Fern drive across the country with a

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truck and and we we set up house in there,

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made it, made is comfortable, made it super comfortable for

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ourselves and you know, we have fun together. So we

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just had a blast there and for one month, man,

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we came up double record.

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Well that's amazing, Like and especially nowadays, nobody works that

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fast on an album, how much less a double album.

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So that's pretty amazing.

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Yeah, yeah, you know, it depends. I know some projects

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that go pretty quick, but uh, you know, and then

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tracking the eighty five percent of tracking that we got

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done at Elvis's. There was always touch ups and a

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few more things to do, but the heart of the

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record was done in a month and I felt really

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confident about it. And now it's been out for a

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year and a half now and I feel like, Okay,

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there's another I mean, you know, I hate to say,

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I hate to be it, but there's another great, solid

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piece of work by Collective Soul.

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And you should feel that way too, Like listen, if

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you're not proud of your own music, of who is

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going to be.

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Right from a tough cell man.

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I love and it is a tough sell because then

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you got to like fake it. And you see that

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sometimes with artists. There's artists that fake it and there's

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artists you can just tell that their their whole heart

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and soul is into it, and that that's I think

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what moves people when it's that.

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Yeah, and and what you said earlier too about us

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having fun on stage, we hear that all the time,

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and it's nothing that we're forcing. We're we have fun

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on stage, and I think that transcends through the whole room,

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you know, whether it's an amphitheater or a or a

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theater like we're playing tonight.

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There you go. And uh so, let's also talk about

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the documentary because that's pretty cool. Give me, give me

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a word the Collective Soul Story. That almost sounds like

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a pun too, because it's like the collective Collective Soul Story.

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It sounds like to me, you know when I said, well,

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I was just saying that that's what came into my mind,

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and like it was, it came out. It's an Amazon

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bestseller upon announcement, and it also debuted on a number

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one in Billboard's Internal Music Video chart in July. Like

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that's amazing in and of itself that people want to

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see this stuff, or people want the Collective Soul Story.

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Yeah, I mean, it's to say it's a small town stories.

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You can't really overestimate what kind of small town story

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it is. And we knew it was an interesting story

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and people would want to learn about it. I think

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we're most proud about the fact that through the production

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of the You know, it took us about four years

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to start collecting things and talking about you know who

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we're gonna interview, and then getting those interviews done. But

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by the time we got to Palm Springs and we

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were about halfway done with the documentary, the idea came,

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let's let's integrate us working on a current record thirty

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years later, and we're going to go back in time

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and tell you the story of how we got to

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this point right here. So on a production level, we're

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really proud of that, and we're really proud of how

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it turned out. Joe, our director, did a great job.

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I mean we you know, we were not we weren't

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going to be there on the editing room floor or

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anything like that. We let him do his thing. We

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had a few few little small things we asked him

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to work on after we saw the first draft, but

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we we knew we had something that we were going

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to be really proud of after the first cut. And yeah,

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like I said, it's not just a straight history lesson.

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You get to see us in current state working on

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a fresh new record, and then of course you get

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the story going back to the early eighties.

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You know, that's pretty killer. And Okay, so going back

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to like you said, you played like pretty much every instrument,

458
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So what les you to become the bassist? I have

459
00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:04.359
all the instruments.

460
00:25:04.839 --> 00:25:07.079
Just that chemistry thing, you know, I mean, you know,

461
00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:09.680
and I tell people the word band, you know, a

462
00:25:09.720 --> 00:25:12.160
band is it could be a band of brothers, like

463
00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:14.960
a military band. It could be you know, it doesn't

464
00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:18.920
mean five individuals on a certain instrument that come together.

465
00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:21.759
You're not a band unless you think the same and

466
00:25:21.839 --> 00:25:25.160
you you like the same things, you hear the same

467
00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:29.599
ideas musically, and that's what we did, the original five.

468
00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:33.079
That's what we did, and that we needed a bass

469
00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:36.720
player so that I became the bass player.

470
00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:42.000
So I have a trivia question that I asked almost

471
00:25:42.039 --> 00:25:46.039
every bass player and nobody ever gets it right. Okay,

472
00:25:47.680 --> 00:25:52.079
who is one of the most famous bass players that

473
00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:54.920
really did it? Wasn't a bass player. He was a

474
00:25:54.960 --> 00:25:57.559
guitar player and he drew the short straw and had

475
00:25:57.599 --> 00:25:58.920
to be the bassist.

476
00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:04.039
Well, Paul McCartney, there.

477
00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:06.920
It is, there it is. I love it. You got it.

478
00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:13.759
And it's funny because I was a total Beatles fanac

479
00:26:13.799 --> 00:26:16.720
when I was a kid and until I knew that.

480
00:26:16.920 --> 00:26:19.960
Then I went back and I listened to their songs.

481
00:26:20.039 --> 00:26:23.559
I'm like, holy shit, he does sound like he's playing

482
00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:26.039
guitar way he plays bass, and I never noticed it

483
00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:26.960
before I knew.

484
00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:31.440
He He's definitely my favorite overall artist. And I've got

485
00:26:31.519 --> 00:26:34.920
tickets to see him November two. Nice and I've seen

486
00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:38.240
him once live and you talk about music and emotion

487
00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:42.359
getting you. Oh my gosh, he came on stage and

488
00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:44.680
I didn't realize. I was like, why am I tearing

489
00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:48.799
up right now? It's like, what the hell? I couldn't

490
00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:53.480
stop it. But Paula just knows how to play any

491
00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:56.200
instrument and make it sound good in a song. And

492
00:26:56.240 --> 00:26:58.559
I always say this, even the early Basis, he played

493
00:26:58.559 --> 00:27:01.880
those Hoffner basses. Nobody else plays those. You know what

494
00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:05.359
they sound like? Crap man. I don't hope you.

495
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:09.279
Whatever you want, He's the.

496
00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:11.440
Only dude in the world who can even make it

497
00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:12.160
sound decent.

498
00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:13.039
Uh.

499
00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:15.599
I remember first being on tour in Europe and we're

500
00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:17.880
in Germany. I'm like, I'm gonna check out a Hoffner base,

501
00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:20.240
maybe get one, you know, Paul McCartney played that in

502
00:27:20.279 --> 00:27:21.079
the early Beatles.

503
00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:22.079
Uh.

504
00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:25.240
I did not even think about purchasing that thing. It

505
00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:27.799
was they and every all bass players will tell you

506
00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:29.680
it's not a fun base to play, and it's it's

507
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:33.720
it's not a very good full sound. But of course

508
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:35.759
by the time he got to his Rickenbocker days, then

509
00:27:35.839 --> 00:27:38.079
now you've got something I can play. So I've definitely

510
00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:41.319
got a nice Rickenbacker and I've used one on recordings before.

511
00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:42.400
Nice.

512
00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:43.119
You know.

513
00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:46.839
I'll tell you something that really I loved and blew

514
00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:50.359
my mind. The documentary, not the one Get Back, but

515
00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:53.279
the other one where he's with uh I think it's

516
00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:59.400
with Rick Rubin, and that one was great. Yeah.

517
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:03.480
The track they had him stemmed out so you could

518
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:06.440
turn them up and down, and that was wow, that's

519
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:08.559
super cool, just super cool. Watch.

520
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:12.319
Yeah, And so what blew my mind was they were

521
00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:16.599
listening to one song and Paul just goes man back.

522
00:28:16.640 --> 00:28:20.079
Then I was just playing with my bloke John and

523
00:28:20.079 --> 00:28:23.759
he goes he goes. I can't believe I was playing

524
00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:26.640
with John Lennon like he was fan boying out over

525
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:29.000
John Lennon, and I thought that was the coolest thing.

526
00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:32.880
Yeah, I can't wait to see the tour he does

527
00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:36.319
a there's a Lenon tribute and there's also a Harrison tribute.

528
00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:39.799
So wow, sure I'm gonna sure, I'm gonna cry again.

529
00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:45.039
I know, right, but well worth it for sure. And

530
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:48.319
so it's and I want to go back to one

531
00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:52.640
other thing you talked about liking ghosts. So I'm just

532
00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:56.400
putting this out there to Danny Wimmer that the next

533
00:28:56.519 --> 00:29:00.920
DWP festival you have to play on is incarceration. You

534
00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:01.799
know about that one.

535
00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:03.440
I don't know about that one.

536
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:10.799
Okay, okay. It's at Shawshank Prison, oh man is and

537
00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:14.319
that is a haunted prison actually, and they have like

538
00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:17.839
a haunted house thing and going on there during the festival.

539
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:21.079
They even have like there's a working prison next door

540
00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:22.880
where people are out in the yard and it's like,

541
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:25.759
I tell Harris, it's like it's like you're Johnny Cash.

542
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:31.119
You're playing for the inmates, man, and it is and

543
00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:36.240
it is like I do a lot of festivals, and uh,

544
00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:42.359
there's definitely ghost there. Let me tell you. William will

545
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:46.720
revis from Mushroom Head and Killer's Confession. He told me

546
00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:49.960
that he was in like there's a torture room and

547
00:29:50.079 --> 00:29:52.880
he filmed a video and came out and he had

548
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:58.480
scratches all over his chest like bleeding scratches, like is

549
00:29:58.799 --> 00:30:03.839
definitely haunted. But it is so cool because, like my

550
00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:06.839
youngest story, she'll call me before every festival she's like, oh,

551
00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:09.480
are you excited about this? When I'm like, well, it's

552
00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:11.079
a load of fun. I love doing it. I don't

553
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:13.359
know if excited it's the key word when you're doing

554
00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:16.880
it every week. But that when I did incarceration, the

555
00:30:16.920 --> 00:30:20.759
first time I called her up, I'm like, now I'm excited.

556
00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:25.160
I'm calling you from the prison yard of Shawshank dang right.

557
00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:28.960
So I'm putting that out to Danny Wimmer. We need

558
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:30.880
to get you on incarceration for sure.

559
00:30:31.400 --> 00:30:33.680
We'll try anything till Danny. We're good for anything.

560
00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:36.480
There you go. Do you have anything else you want

561
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:38.799
to share with the listeners We haven't covered that you

562
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:40.519
want to let them know that's coming up.

563
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:43.599
No, we do have a record coming out in the spring,

564
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:47.039
and we're always on tour. We got it. We do

565
00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:50.240
have a really fun three night we're trying to get

566
00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:52.279
where we can maybe take a whole week and get

567
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:54.720
a residency going. But we're doing three nights in Vegas

568
00:30:55.079 --> 00:31:00.160
early February. Nice Check. Collective Souls Socials you'll find out

569
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:03.880
the information. But we're there at the Venetian and that's

570
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:05.759
gonna be a fun deal. And we're also doing that

571
00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:09.119
Summer of ninety eight crews that's early next year as well,

572
00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:11.319
So yeah, check out both those things.

573
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:14.519
Very cool, and you guys should look into playing at

574
00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:18.839
the Sphere because yes, sure, wild right.

575
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:21.519
I've seen the U two show that was really good.

576
00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:23.880
I'm a big fan, so.

577
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:27.599
It is wild for sure. Well, you guys rock. You

578
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:31.240
killed it at Bourbon Beyond and I look forward to

579
00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:33.759
seeing a lot more of you. And and again Danny

580
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:37.599
put them on incarceration. And thanks for being on the

581
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:38.680
Adventures of pipe Man.

582
00:31:39.480 --> 00:31:41.400
Cheers Man, appreciate you man, thanks for.

583
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:43.920
The support anytime, my pleasure.

584
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:47.160
Hey, what's up. This is Will with Collective Soul and

585
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:57.039
you're listening to pipe Man on W four c Y.

586
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587
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