A Conversation With Dean K. Piper, CST aka "The Pipeman"

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1:08 Hello everyone, this is your loving host and best selling author, radio and TV personality doctor Rafshan Hashmi live from her studio, Saudi Arabia Style Studio in Rockville, Maryland. And here, folks, the glare is coming. Although I try to close the thing, I don't know why the glare is coming. So having said that, folks, you know today I want to remind you that these are my two books. The first one is The Modern Mogle Mentality, New Strategies to Succeed in India and the global marketplace. And the second one is the Outbreak of a Monstrous Infection. So the first one is the modern mogal mentality with Amazon's it was an Amazon best seller in India and in USA and hot number one new release on m on in the USA.

2:03 And this one, the Outbreak of a Monstrous Infection, was actually, you know, the best Amazon bestseller in USA. And I want and these books are available worldwide, and I want, you know, folks, you know that, to please go and buy these two books and give me an honest review. And also this show is syndicated worldwide to three hundred million listeners, and so please go and sponsor my show. And today I have a very very interesting guest, a guy you know who I didn't know. I haven't met him in person, only virtual talks and all. But he is the producer of this show of Talk four Media, and I buy time from him, so and I want to bring him in. And many many hiccups came in my radio and TV show, but he did not back off, you know, from giving me this chance. And I really love him. I have never met him. He's like my older brother who gives me insights. He taught me, you know, free of costs, how to manage this all and everything, and I really love him. And here I introduce world famous producer Dean piper Well.

3:22 Hello a Sean, how are you? I'm fine, And I have to say I love all the words you said, except old older. Okay, I might be the younger brother. No, I'm just kidding. So I'm glad to be on your show here. So just tell little bit that how this talk for media, you know, came into existence, and what were your hiccups and what is your experience because many people like me. Also, if I want to set up a radio station, what should I look into? Because you own so many radio stations. So how did this all opportunity came about? And what are your next plans?

4:05 So it came started with a vision. I used to be very big in the investment and insurance business, and I used to be like you and by time to do a radio show and also as a motivational speaker. You know, I've shared the stage with all of the big name motivational speakers, and you know I used to use the radio show to promote my investment business, to promote my motivational speaking to promote my positive message. And I saw a shift going on in the media world. Back in two thousand and seven, where streaming was first starting, there was no such word as it yet. It was just called internet radio. And there wasn't even podcasting yet.

4:55 Podcasting is just a fancy word for recording, you know. But it's become the buzz and the boast thing, and everybody wants to have a podcast now. But I was there before it even existed. As a matter of fact, my organization was the one that we beta tested iHeartRadio's original podcast networks called iHeart Talk because podcast was not a word yet. And basically I had this vision the very beginning of you know, media was going to change, that it was going to be what it is today. And I like to associate like Bill Gates and IBM.

5:36 Like Bill Gates came out while he was working at IBM and said, Hey, I have an idea for you know, a personal computer and everybody's home. An IBM's answer to that was, yeah, that'll never happen, the mainframes never going away in your nuts. And that's when Bill Gates decided to leave IBM and start Microsoft and there go. Here we are today doing this show on PC's the vision that Bill Gates had, Well, it was same for me, like you know, you had to lorestrial radio and then internet radio came out. But all these people, and this also answers your question, they were like, well, now you know what they'renet radio. I can just do it from my bedroom. And my answer is no, just because you can.

6:28 I mean you can do it. I can do it as far as the host, but not running the actual radio station. Okay, A real radio station needs to be licensed, It needs to pay royalties like we do. It needs to have professional studios, professional engineers, even though Rebel's engineering this show and I'm just joke fucking Rebel, not really but maybe and go ahead, well you gonna say, Rebel, go ahead, I see you trying to chime in. Are we gonna go there with you? Because we love you? You? Yeah, just come over and show your face because all my three hundred million audience wants to see who Rebel is?

7:14 And why do I always want Rebel? Oh nobody wants to see. Hi, she's gotta she's got a face for radio. Yeah, so yeah, so bea and stay the art equipment like you know, Listen, people say well, I can watch a YouTube video and I could do my own radio station. Yeah, you could. You could also watch a YouTube video and doing brain surgery. I don't want you pulling the scalpel to my head though, And that's the point. You gotta run. And if this type of medium was I saw where it was going. But it had to be run professionally. So if you're gonna have internet radio and you're gonna have it compete with terrestrial radio, you had to have all the things that terrestrial radio have, professional studios.

8:02 Yes, I want to interrupt you, but I remember one thing I was with block talk radio and you said that you know, anytime you could be cashed, that they can say that you are not licensed. You know, yes, that story. Well, because there are see this is the problem with people that are not from the industry try and come in the industry because they watch some video and listen to some snake oil salesman saying that they can, you know, do their own podcasts. It will cost them nothing. No, that's not true. You could. It's not going to do anything. Now. The licensing alone is required by law, and with that licensing, I have to do reporting every single month or quarter of what we're playing, and I have to pay royalties, and I pay licensing fees throughout the for the whole year too. Without that licensing, you're breaking the law. Okay, you're breaking a law. People think they're not. They're like, well, I don't need to. I've had people say, may, well, why should I have to pay royalties?

9:09 They should be help Like people do podcast on stream yard, on YouTube and all that without having, you know, to go to a radio station. Well they're they're doing it, but they're gonna get caught and it's gonna cost them a lot of money, is what's gonna happen? You know that? Like even Spotify got fine years ago over a half a million dollars for not paying royalties. The same thing. Like it's been the wild wild West. And once the government figures out how to regulate things, which they have been doing now, but in the beginning they weren't, they're not gonna come slap you in the hand. They're gonna they're gonna let you do enough and dig a deep enough hole that they can put you in business. Okay, because if you talk like.

9:57 I do my show on stream Yard, I just send you to spread it. The worldwide. So what is the situation. Then, well, because you're recording it, but we're broadcasting it. And when you're broadcasting it, it has to be licensed and it has to be done by the rules and by the law, and yeah, you can put stuff. But you'll see that the YouTube is cracking down lately, you know, they've been using AI to scour through. I've had it too, even on Spotify, like I get right now in twenty twenty five. This whole year, every single day, I'm getting hundreds of emails from Spotify verifying that I have the right to play the things I'm playing or they're taking it down and I could possibly get fined. It could be quite expensive if you get caught. You know, it's like anything else. Sure you can break the law and you might not get caught, but when you do get caught, then there's a problem. And the hard thing is too, is you know, people have to be feel that you're a professional and not a scammer. And the way to do that is to do it the legal way. That's you know, and then on top of it, you know, to be taken seriously, you have to write like a real radio station. So like I was saying, you know, we have professional engineers, professional studio stadi or equipment. But we also do a lot of things that terrestrial stations do,

11:27 like do live remote broadcasts for events, we go, do radio and media coverage at different events and music festivals and conferences. You know, we do everything as if it were a terrestrial station. Mostly the people that are just reading, reading some stuff or watching YouTube, they're not doing any of that. They're just talking because they love to hear themselves talk. You know, let's call what it is. Most podcasters have an ego and they all think they have the best content ever. But if your content is not qual and good sound quality and isn't legal, it doesn't do a bit of good for you. And you know, even when I have guests that come on my show, I'm like, well why should you be a guest on my show? And this shows the ego they say to me because I have great content. And then my next statement to them is, well so do millions of other people doing podcasts. Now what do you have? And they never have that next answer. Content is great, but it's not enough. It's not enough to become a successful radio show host, podcast or what have you? And Most of these podcasters that do it on their own, their listeners are their friends and family that already know them, so that doesn't help much. Either. You need to go on network like ours, where we already have a built in organic audience throughout the world that your message can get to, because without an organization like mine, your message isn't getting to them. Your message is gained to just the people

13:00 you know, or you make it a full time job to spend a lot of money marketing and promoting and all that. You cannot build something without promoting it and without investing in it. There are no free lunches. People think they could do it for free, even the mics. They go out and buy a twenty dollars mic. A twenty dollars mic is what you give your kid on Christmas that they can play with. It's not something you produce a radio show or podcast with. So because of that, we really made a name for ourselves because we're doing different in the beginning back in two thousand and seven than anybody else was, because we are doing it the right way, and that's why we're still here eighteen years later, and most of the people that were around then are not around anymore because it's a great idea, but you still got to run a business like a business. And you know, as you can testify to, we're a well oiled machine and we make for hosts like you easy.

14:03 Then you can just come on and do your thing and you don't have to worry about all the other stuff because we're doing it for you. So we are going to continue the conversation after the first break, Rebel, please do the sponsorship. Media. Hello, viewers around the group. This is doctor of Johan Hashman the Live. For her radio show at K four SHB and Talk for TV show, and I just wanted to request you that please give me a sponsorship if you want to. Want this show to continue. Having said that, friends, I will see you in another.

14:45 Episode of K four st Radio. Plus Talk for TV show. And if you give. Me a sponsorship, I will give you a very reasonable price and they'll also. You will get a lot of promotion. As this show is syndicate, people are writing to move them through. And bye bye. So a dean, I have this question that when I gave you my first call, you know, and you said that I really negotiated a good price. Can you always say I'm a very good negotiator. So what qualities did I have that you chose me?

15:29 Well, I chose you because you have a strong message and a strong belief in what you're doing, and a strong belief in helping people. And that's the first and most important part, over money, over anything else. You are somebody that the world needs to hear. Now, as far as the negotiator, well, you're tough, okay, Like I'm a Jew, We're supposed to be the master negotiators. But I'm sorry, I think your background, man, you uh, you really beat me up a lot. So you think I am better than Jews and negotiating. Yeah, and I'm a I'm a really good negotiator, right exactly.

16:14 That's why I say that, you know, I mean you definitely, uh, you should be You should be that for a living let let you could be a You could even be for your book, The Monstrous Infection Book. You could be the hostage negotiator. So what what have you thought about you being my Hollywood agent? I still am looking for a Hollywood agent and I have been talking to you, so so what what is those hiccups? You know that you are not taking that job? Well, I think you're on your way doing it by doing this show. Okay. So things are very different nowadays, you know than they use to be in Hollywood. You know a lot of people are doing what you're doing, paying to have a show on network like mine and gain the exposure and then Hollywood will find you. You know it, you know, Hollywood and the record labels and all that. They want you already to succeed first, then they bring you on. It's not like the old days where they threw money at you and took a shot.

17:24 They don't do that anymore. They look and they look at things like what you're already doing. They don't want to train you. They don't want to get you there. They want you there and then they'll take you to a whole different level. So what you guys do improvement in that and bringing my book to film, Well. First of all, continue doing what you're doing. Promote, promote, promote, promote, put it out there, you know, and just like sometimes it's just luck. It's like running into the right person at the right time. I ran into you. Well, that's right, and that's a first step there right there, And but I mean it takes time. There's a saying in the TV and radio and music business, and that is it takes twenty years to become an overnight sensation.

18:21 So like people think that these people just wake up one day and they become stars. No, they starved, they worked hard, they put they put a lot of blood and sweat into it, and that's how they get there. And that is what you do have on your side, off Sean, because you do put a lot of blood and sweat into what you're doing. You work very hard and you're continuous, and that's part of what it takes. Nowadays, you know, we only hear about them once their success. We don't hear about what they had to go through to get there. Yes, yes, thanks a lot, you know for motivating me, because after my husband's death, you know, I need a lot of motivation. But the problem is that I am even like not getting a sponsorship. I tried everything and I'm not getting a sponsorships. You know, I sponsored my own show, so I'm not getting a sponsorship. You have sent me those links and all I have written to them.

19:17 What is going on in a sponsorship business? Because you guys have a lot of sponsorship. You know what I am not doing that I'm not getting a sponsorship. Well, because it's a to be honest, it's a sales process, not negotiating process. So being even though you're the master negotiator, it's the sales techniques and and parlo sales techniques is not like browbeating people or you know, it's like you got to make it their idea. You know, when you're trying to pitch something somebody, you're the salesperson, you're the enemy, and it's not a good idea. But when you make it there idea, then it's a good idea and they can't object to that example. Okay, So if I said to you, if I was looking for you to be a potential sponsor of my show, I would say to you, off sean, if I present an opportunity to you that would benefit your business, your book, your message, everything else.

20:24 Is that the type of thing that you would take advantage of? What would you say? You would say yes, right, and then I would say something to the effect of, well, you know, we have exposured over three hundred million listeners. We are a professional station license, we have listeners all around the world. I'm sure that's the type of exposure you're looking for your business right, and again you would probably say yes, and then I would say something to the effect of, well, then what's holding you back? And see, the key is to getting sponsors or any kind of sales.

21:08 It's not salespeople aren't the best talkers, they're the best listeners. The key is questions. So when you ask questions, there's a few things that happen. Certain questions, like the ones I was just asking, are what's called trial closes. They're asking small closing questions to get the yes answer to program people to say yes to the big question. Then there's the probing questions, which are the questions to find out more about the person. You gotta show you care. You got to show that it's not about you, it's not about them spending money with you. It's about you helping them. So by doing that, you ask questions to find out what their needs desires, because everybody's needs, desires, and goals are very different. So you have to ask these questions so you find out about them, so you could provide them a custom situation that's what they're looking for, what they need and will satisfied or goals and a lot of sales is psychology of sales. Okay, there's even a book on it. And I'm going to even show you a little example of that right now. We're going to do a lab experiment right here. Okay, So, like I said before, yes, these trial close questions to get the yes answers to small questions to get the yes and no. And what we're doing there is we're programming them, okay, psychologically.

22:26 So as an example, Okay, I want you to do me a favor, and I want you to say the word joke ten times fast. Uh huh, say it for me right on the air. Joke joke, joke, j j joke, joke, joke, joke, jog. Jog yog jyoke, yog jog jog jog jog jog. Yes. And what's the white part of an egg? Why? Oh? White pot off? An edg? Yes, a white thing. Yeah. Yeah, See, you're pretty good. Most people would say to yoke because you were saying joke, jok jok, And they automatically nine time people say yoke, you know, because they're not thinking. They're just so i'mactally answering, because you're programming them with the smaller questions, you know. So, like we could even mess with Rebel a little bit. Okay, Rebel, come on, are you ready? Rebel? Am I ever? Am I ever? Okay, do me a favor and say bread ten times? Fast bread bread, say that, never mind, I screwed it up. Okay, say toast ten times fast.

23:34 Toast, toast, toast, toast, toast, toast, toost, toast toost toasts. Will you put in the toaster bread? Yeah, because I've screwed it up, But most people would say toast. I screwed it up by saying the bread, but you would say toasts, and then it's like, no, you put bread in the toaster and you take toast out. You know. But people, that's how our mind works, you know. Sometimes we don't even think about it, and especially today because how many times on social media do people share articles that they don't even read. They just see the headline and share it because they think it fits their narrative all the same thing exactly. Okay, Rebel does it all day long. There's you know, there's times I've said to Rebel, why are you sharing that? Oh, I'm saving it so I could read it later, Like, yeah, that's not the point of.

24:21 Sharing, but that's what I do I don't have time to read it. I see it, it looks something I want to interest maybe possibly take an interest in, or at least read. That right, So save it for later. Don't share it with the world as your belief system when you don't even know what you're sharing. Just because you put something on the wall doesn't mean it's your belief system. Everybody would think that. Everybody would think that if you know, if you put on there something, they're going to think that's your belief system. That's just the way it works. So like the Devil was a hiccup there. That was this a baseball player, you know, and remember he sent me so many emails about his sponsorship and then when you talk to him, he was so rowdy and so that.

25:11 So what do you think people are just sending me I mean, I spent so much of time there and I thought, you know, he's a baseball or a player or so he will, you know, give me a sponsorship. But I don't know what happened at that. You don't assume what people are. That's to begin with. The best sponsors are the people you think won't be your sponsors. The people that you think will be never will be It certainly kind of works that way. Number one. Number two, you know, it's the one saying for me. Thing see you're worried about is he's a baseball player. He should just give you money. And he's thinking, no, I worked hard for that money, you know, So you have to convince them. That goes back to making their idea instead of your idea, instead of you think and they should give you money. I'm more like, hey, I can help you. What kind of help do you need?

26:02 And then they tell me. I'm like, well, if I could fulfill that, would you take advantage of it? Yes? You know, you gotta five and not everybody's good. It's a numbers game. Listen, you have to talk to a lot of people. You have to talk to a lot of people that it's a numbers game. If you talk to twenty people, probably only five to seven of them are gonna create even get more information. And I have that only one to one to have ten would probably do business with you. Right, So hard, you know, and it is so hard to get a sponsorship, you know, and without a sponsorship to carry out this show is very very difficult. Whatever, Like I think, you know, all those ideas are in my mind, I go blow it out, you know, on people, but nothing is working.

26:52 Well. You gotta give them something first, okay, like as example, have them be a guest on your show for free first. Okay, get them interested, get them, they get to know you and trust you, because there's so many people they could give their money to. Okay, They're only going to give their money to somebody they trust and that they feel is confident to help them, not yourself. Keep focusing on that. It's all about them. See you are you are a Jewish man. I am a Muslim woman, you know, and like in your community, everyone is so empowered. In our community, people are not in that position. They are hand to mouth.

27:38 You know. My contacts are hand to mouth, so they cannot sponsor my show. But if I go to Middle East and start talking to these kings and queens and all that, you know, I don't have those kind of contacts, you know, to get them because they have money. You know, they'll go after the elephants, go after the peanuts. And do you know what that means. It means that people like like what you're saying, you don't go after the people with the that are the kings, the queens, the big micers, they have too many choices, they have too much time and they have not enough time. They're not gonna, you know, they may not give you the time of day. You have to go after the small business owner. You have to go out. They're the ones that spend money with you, the people that you can actually talk to, the people that are not out of reach.

28:27 I have pride with a small, big and middle people. But it's not happening, you know, And I really need a sponsorship. So folks, you know, this is my producer. You know, I brought him here. There is someone by name of Dean Piper through whom I buy time. He's a very successful man and he owns a lot of radio shows. And my show is syndicated worldwide to three hundred million listeners. So I, for do you know, requests you to please sponsor my show if you if you like my show. So, Dean, you had an army radio also, and you had you have many different kinds of radio.

29:08 So how much investment did you do in the beginning to make a radio show. Well, that's the point. That's an earn thing I was talking about earlier. To have a radio station. You can't do it on peanut, you know, and people think they can. I've had people think they can and they don't even last a month. You know, I have to basically to run my radio network. I have to make fifty grand a month just to breathe, just to breathe. You know that if you want to run a business, you run it the right way. You have to invest in your business and you have to build a bit listen. Even Amazon Amazon Jeff Bezos started in the garage of his home with some books. Yeah okay, but then and that as the money is coming, he's investing the money and that and became the mega company. It is to there's no mega company out there today that started by doing things.

30:05 I'll say it the cheap way. The cheap way is doing DIY. The cheap way is going by in a cheap mic. The cheap way is not paying for time. You know, right, equipment and everything. I made this very innovative kind because usually people sit on the chair I am sitting. This is called a much less because I always give you culture of Islam because when we started, you're thinking was because you have never met a Muslim woman, and you thought like all Muslims are terrorist, you know, but now you think that there is this girl who's very peaceful. So I'm an example example to you. So I made this innovative thing like Saudi, and I want to rent the studio. So what is the renting business?

30:51 You know, like I can you know just this studio? I rent per hour. I want to do that, but I haven't got any gigs yet, you know, So how do I do that? You need money, that's the bottom line. And going back to what you said, I never thought that about you, because here's my viewpoint is I've met some great Muslims. I've lived for months at a time in the Netherlands with all the Muslims in the area I was living, it was all Muslim. It's such a big lie in fallacy throughout the world. I want to say that right now since you brought it up. You know, listen, the terrorists are fundamentalists, and the stuff they're preaching isn't even the Koran. You know what's in the Quran. I've read the Koran. The Koran is a peaceful book in my opinion from reading it. They twist this crap around the terrorists and you know, listen, my natural path that has helped me through a lot of things. She's Persian. She practices Persian medicine, which is where to Chin E's got it from.

32:01 So you go for like irobnic medication, that's what it's called Indian they s world. I do that too, but she does a lot of other things. And you know, it's all about food with her. And you know, Iranians and Jews are not supposed to be friendly with each other, if it's up to the powers that be, and her and I talk about it all the time. It's our governments that create this bullshit, you know, to be blood, you know, because generally, you know, we can get along. It's they want us fighting. Even the whole situation going on right now over there, it's all a bunch of bull crap to for people to grab more power whatever they need and have us hating each other. We're all human beings, we all have our own things, and we're all very similar, you know. It's it's very interesting because we're all Middle Easterners. If you're a Jew from Israel, you're a Middle Easterner. You know, if you looked at an Israeli and you looked at Iranian, you wouldn't know which was the Jew and which was the Muslim. You you know, and this is the problem that we have right now. And I brought it up because I said, because you brought it up, because you know what, there's a lot of protesting going on in this world, and we need to just love each other because you know, you know what, all those powers of

33:31 be are the ones they're wrong, not us innocent people who just want to like each other. I don't care if somebody what their religion is, what their race is, as long as they are not intentionally trying to hurt somebody, they deserve to be who they are. And you know what, if you being a Muslim, or somebody be a Christian, or somebody be a Jew, if that makes them a better person, that's the right religion for them. You know, we don't have to believe the same thing. But the one thing I do know from reading all studying all religions is we all basically believe the same thing. We have just different takes on it. What I loved most of all was so I also as a Jew, I also have Buddhist philosophies. I love Buddhist philosophies. You know, the whole positivity of it the mind. I'm also very much into the Kabbalah, which is all about positivity and power to mind. And you know, when I was in Bali, I went into the Hindu temples and one particular one really made me feel good because it was a combo Buddhist Hindu temple. They shared it, and to me, that's an example for the world. They didn't need to be segregated.

34:53 There were two different religions or philosophies that are sharing the same house of worship to do it differently, that's the way we should all be together. Like that. I could tell you too, Like when I was in Bali. You're gonna laugh at this, okay, because Indonesia is a primarily Muslim country, okay. And it was so funny because there was a I heard this noise like I thought it was a concert. It was like like eleven o'clock at night, Like what is that? And I actually was like, well, that sounds cool. I went outside and it turned out that it was Muslim services. You know, you know, because as you know, it's at different hours of the day and it gets like it gets really loud, like I got once I was there, for a while, I'm like, oh, okay, I get it now. I didn't know it at first, that's problem. Yeah, And you know, like I also, I've been to Istanbul and right out the airport in Istanbul is one of the most beautiful, most beautiful mosques, and like, I'm a Jew, and I walked into that mosque because I was interested in it, like you know, and it looked nice and su you don't have to like some Jews some Muslims or like oh I wouldn't or Christians I wouldn't walk in there or whatever. No, No, like

36:27 it was beautiful and most of the Muslims, the true Muslims that I know, are peaceful people that have a strong belief in their religion. And I have no problem with that if that strong belief is not about, you know, hurting people, and the Koran does not teach you to hurt people. And I wanted to spell that myth as a Jew right here and now, because terrorists go by their own agenda. And I'll tell you what I'm gonna say it right now. I don't know how you feel. I'd like to hear how you feel, but blows my mind how many people are pro Hamas in this world that we're in right now, you know, And I think even if I was a Muslim might be like the Hamas and all the other terrorist organizations are just giving our religion and our people a bad name. What's your feelings on that?

37:29 I have one question our American policies. You know, it feels like, you know, you are not that democratic anymore. You know you are not. We never were. We never were democrat. That was the big lie. Where a constitutional republic we always have been. If we were a democracy, we wouldn't have just two parties, you know. And we have more parties, but none of them really count. They don't win ever. You know, it's a two parties system. And as long as you have the electoral college and a two party system, you're not a true democracy. I find it amazing that we got around the world preaching democracy and we really don't have a true democracy. We have a constitutional republic based on democratic values, but not a true democracy. And we are turning. We are turning more extreme. We're becoming the extremist here. That's what's interesting.

38:32 On both sides. I'm a very middle road person. I have both conservative and liberal viewpoints depending on what it is. I hate the extremes, you know, I don't like the alt right. I don't like the far left, and not because they're left, not because they're right, because they're extremists that just use it to hate people and to not be nice. So how do you think about the reality shows? God, I want to do some reality shows with you conducting it, you know, Like I want to show this a studio. I want to show like my house, like I live in a small place, my cupboard. I don't have a big cupboard, but I have a lot of clothes, and so I will talk to you in privateory about about that and all. So I want what do you think about that kind of idea?

39:24 Well, I like reality shows for I don't like to watch them personally myself, but I think they're a great idea and people can relate to it. And I've done reality shows on my own show, and I think also like I'd like to have my own reality show because then I'll become the president of the United States of America. I think that's a requirement. I think they're changing that that's a requirement now to be the president. Also, and he's so popular. You know, Yeah, and you know. The fact is the fact is is to me, this whole division thing is ridiculous because that's the powers that be so they can get what they want and divide us. It's the oldest trick in the book, divide and conquer. You know what I say? Everybody, you do you, as long as you're not hurting anybody intentionally, you do you. You believe what you want to believe, and let's all just love each other for our differences. I don't want to be around a bunch of clones.

40:37 Yes, yes, live and let live is the thing. Yeah, everybody has reasons. Yes. The other other thing is this that many people are you know by Duras. They know that I live alone by Duras, they want, you know, to be my co host. You know, they are putting pressure on me. They are doing threatening calls and those kind of stuff. So so how do how would you deal with these kind of problems because you might be having the same problem, you know, because you are a big host. Remember when we started, there was some noise and bad words coming from India, you know, somewhere. So how do you deal with those kind of Because I'm facing since my husband has died, I am facing a lot of those kinds of problems. Everybody, you know, as soon as they see it's three hundred million listeners, they want to just want to be co host in my show. So what should I do about it?

41:33 First of all, I went and talk to them. Second of all, you can environ them over to my place. I'm on the thirty sixth floor and I'll throw them off the balcony. Okay, so if they if they threatened me, I will say, go and talk to my producer. You know that's right. Yeah. And then as I'm driving from where I live to the studio, I'll drop them off at more Lago because I have to pass more Lago on the way a studio, and I'll let I'll let them handle them over at mar Lago. They'll they'll, they'll uh, they'll take good care of them. So you see that place every day. Well, I don't go to the studio every day anymore, but yeah, I passed by there, and I you know when you pass by also it's you have to pass by the airport because it's right near the airport, and you see, you see Trump air Force one and you know, uh, now we have the guitar and the guitar is here.

42:33 I don't know if it's here yet, but we're we're gonna have it, I guess. So, so what else do you want to say to my audience? And because we are just you know, going to wrap up. I want to say that you are a phenomenal human being and a phenomenal show host and we're glad to have you here on the network. And I think your listeners that are listening right now, they're all very lucky people that have people and people like you on their side. Thank you so much, Dean. And what is it that's and that's in spite of rebel. So so if you want, you know, people to contact you, what is your contact information? And all? And yes, and one thing more Internet. I like your podcast was number one on Internet, so I want to touch that also before we go.

43:30 Yeah, well, so we have number one ranked radio stations. My my podcast is ranked number two on Apple. UH. And I also tour the world doing radio coverage at conferences, music festivals. In fact, I just got back from two months and I have a little bit of downtime. That's why you were lucky enough to get me and uh. And then next week I'm heading off to UK, to Europe to France. I have a festival in the UK in France and then I'm also so there's two days between those two festivals. So I'm hopping on a plane down for a couple of days to Marrakesh. Okay, hopefully I'll be safe there being a Jew.

44:15 You are into Moroccan girls. I know that because you really like Moroccan girls. Am I not about it? I don't know. We'll find that when I get there. So it was nice meeting you. So this was my wonderful producer, Dean Piper, and he gave me that chance and I buy time from him and he's famous worldwide and so you can contact him, you know, and please give your contact information. Yes, So you can find me on all socials under pipe Man, Radio, p I P E, M A and radio all socials. I'm on everything. You can also check out my uh my show on iHeartRadio or anywhere you listen to podcasts. It's also live Monday, Tuesdays and Wednesdays at one pm Eastern Time on W four c Y Radio W four c Y dot com. UH and also talk for TV and you could also catch uh. I have a website well there's websites for all the radio stations here, K four HD dot com, W four c Y dot com, W four w N dot com, K four HD dot com. Oh, that's here, W four HC dot com, W four CS dot com. And we have talkform Media which has all our podcasts on there, and you cant. My website for my podcast is the Adventures of Pipeman dot com. I also have another one that's pipeman Radio dot com and an app Pipeman Radio, and

45:48 there is an app for talkform Media, and there's an app for all the stations, so there is an app for that. And one thing more, it's the radio show. You know, if I would say they would come from the horse mouth, it goes in every car of the world, right if they have. Oh yeah, you can listen to our shows or if you want to have broadcast your own show. You can broadcast from anywhere in the world. We have clients that do shows from all over the world. And uh, you know, reach out to me. You can DM me, you can you can email me at Dean at talkformedia dot com. If you want to do a show, we can talk about it. And if you need marketing, we can talk about that. And if you want a sponsor off Sean show, call me because I'll sell you because you should be a sponsor on her show.

46:40 So just tell your number so people can call you. That's the I will. But it's dangerous because all the girls like to call me. Ask Rebel, Ask Rebel, what happens? They They even call into my radio show to buy my fake group on. But my number is one. It's US, so it's plus one if you're not in the US five six one five zero six four zero three one, And I'll tell you what. We also do ticket giveaways on the station for festivals and stuff like that. But reach out to me. I know I can help you, and I know Afshean can help you. And I am very honored to be on your show here and it's probably my best honor of the day. And I ready did my show, so it's even more of an honored than doing my own show.

47:33 Thank you so much, Dean, you know I really appreciate that. And folks player, this show is syndicated worldwide two three hundred million listeners, so just you know this is this is the guy you know to contact and buy time. Having said that, folks cheers, Oh, thank you Dean for coming in my show. And it was an honor talking to you. And I will be talking about that show, about that reality show, you know what I'm lppening you know, so we can talk about it. Having said that, folks, geas and bye bye and thank you Dean. Bye bye. You've been listening to Meet and Greet with Doctor Apshan Hashmi on K for HD radio and Talk for TV.

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