June 3, 2026

A Pipeman Adventure Into The World of The Rabbi Jenny Experience of Unity & Healing

A Pipeman Adventure Into The World of The Rabbi Jenny Experience of Unity & Healing

It’s the Pipeman – The Wandering Jew spinoff of The Adventures of Pipeman. Today we bring on not only an amazing Rabbi, but also an amazing human. Let's go on a Pipeman adventure into the world of The Rabbi Jenny Experience. Rabbi Jenny is a role...

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Season 20

It’s the Pipeman – The Wandering Jew spinoff of The Adventures of Pipeman.

Today we bring on not only an amazing Rabbi, but also an amazing human. Let's go on a Pipeman adventure into the world of The Rabbi Jenny Experience.

Rabbi Jenny is a role model for what we need in the world right now living and teaching the example of all humans loving each other and coexisting in a very positive way. We will also discuss how all that's going on in the world and antisemitism rising effects our stress, mental health, and addictions which leads to more of the division and antisemitism or just anti anybody. Together with Rabbi Jenny lets discuss healing while living in harmony and love, especially of ourselves.

Rabbi Jenny is a teacher of Jewish spirituality and mysticism. She is is also a Certified Interfaith Counselor, and well versed in all major spiritual traditions.

A major focus of Rabbi Jenny’s work deals with helping patients and professionals shift the paradigm of those who suffer from addiction and trauma from the role of victim to that of a visionary and hero.

She is the acclaimed author of ‘The Terrible and Wonderful Ugly and Beautiful Story of My Life So Far’ and ‘Ahavatar: Awakening to Your Divine Self’, used all over the world to help others heal from addiction and trauma.

Rabbi Jenny Studied at the Rabbinical Seminary International under 3rd generation Hungarian Kabbalah Mystic Rabbi Joseph Gelberman.

She is also a Certified Master Teacher of Energy Medicine, student and Practitioner of Andean Shamanism, Teacher and Practitioner of Vocal healing.

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Hi unto Yes, that's sure see for you. You wake

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up America. It's time for the adventures.

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So Fipe Man, I'll go before see White.

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I com list Pompass number one internet radio station. Here's

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your host, the Vipe Man.

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Yo.

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Here I am. And you know, normally we have Pipeman

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The Wandering Jew on Tuesday, but we decide to put

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it on Wednesday because we have a very special experience

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that's gonna happen today. I do want to say that

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it was tripping me out during the intro because that

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was my grandson who was like, I don't know at

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the time, maybe four, doing my intro and he's now fifteen,

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and we were doing media coverage together at Welcome to

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Rockville a couple of weeks ago right here in Florida,

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and we will talk about towards the end of the

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show some ticket giveaways to upcoming festivals on the Pipe

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Man Radio Tour, and we're going to talk about some

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shows I just covered here locally. And I'm leaving tomorrow

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for the next leg of the Pipe Main Radio Tour,

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so we'll talk about that too, but that's later. Right now,

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I want to introduce somebody I've known for a very

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long time. You used to also do a show on

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this station many moons ago, and uh, you're in for

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a treat or or maybe not today because it might

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be too many adventures and too many experiences for you.

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Because here on the Adventures of Pipe Man on W

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four c Y Radio, we we're going to have and

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this will be Wan's que the Rabbi Jenny experience. So

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I don't know, it might be too many adventures and

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experiences for people. I don't know.

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I don't know that was the pitch name. I think

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it might have even been you. Indeed, I don't know

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that pitch that name. The show never really happened, but

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that was just the gmail, stuck, the Rabbi Jenny experience.

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So yeah, see where to go. Yeah, it's just like

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the Grateful Dead experience, Led Zeppelin experience. Everybody has experiences.

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It's my point, Like you know, and boy or we

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have a lot of experiences in the world today, a

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special as a jew. Okay, And and you are somebody

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that I have on the show because you know the

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purpose of this podcast. Of all of my wacky ones,

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this is one of the serious ones. But it's the

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purpose is that we need to stop letting people pull

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the oldest trek in the book and divide and conquer

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and create narratives. And we were just talking before the show,

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like listen, so many times people obsess over the news,

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the media, their devices, over things that do not affect

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their life in any way, shape or form. They just

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get riled up with a bunch of I don't know, hate,

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attacking to vision. That's all this says. And we're giving

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all the powers that be that we don't want powers

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that be the power by doing that, and i'd wrap

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And that's the mission this show is to squash anti

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Semitism and squash all hate. I don't care what group

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it is. Okay, there should be no hate. We're all

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one race, the human race, and it should all be

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about love and unity. And that's why we're having the

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Rabbi Jenny experience because that's what she's gonna be. No pressure,

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no pressure, no pressure.

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Yes, I mean, it was a unique request to be

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on the show. I'm here up in Juliet, which is

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south of Chicago, about thirty minutes.

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How close are you to the prison?

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We're pretty close. I mean there's a few prisons here,

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which but the main, the old one from the Blues

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Brothers movie is I mean they're both about ten minutes away.

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I mean, it's time. You know, it's small, it's it's

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it's but yeah, the.

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Prison every year, by the way, did you know that? No, Yeah,

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I'll be going in July. I go to Shawshank Prison

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every year.

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do media coverage music festival called Incarceration. That's great, and

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it's at the actual prison.

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the Old State Phlle. I believe it's Jim Belushi and

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Dan Akroyd they started it and they've there's been a

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huge revival of Juliet, Like Bill Murray bought the minor

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league baseball team here and we just finished downtown the

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it's interesting. It's an interesting The Midwest is an interesting

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place to be with the way the world is, and.

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That's a very nice thing to say.

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these issues, it's it's when you've lived in Miami, and

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when you've lived in like a true melting pot, you know,

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you coming to the Midwest where everybody is still extremely

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it's it's it's really, it's really a different it's a

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different vibe. And then of course, you know, I came

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here and jumped on the pulpit after years of not

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doing pulpit work, just doing outreach work and social services.

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So I was very shocked at the smallness of religion,

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you know, after having been such a free spirit for

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so long, you know, the wandering I am truly like

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it's a great title for the show because I really

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am the perfect example of a wandering Jew.

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That was my nickname by my family before I ever

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got married, because I always moved where I vacation, so

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my family would call me the wandering Jew.

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Yeah. I can't be held back either, you know. I

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mean I think that that's we share that, you know,

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I love I love the world. And I also moved

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from a very Jewish place outside of bob as a

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young girl. I moved in sixth grade to Fort Myers, Florida,

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which at the time I believe it was it was

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nineteen eighty and it was still very segregated, and the

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Jews there weren't allowed to join clubs at school. I

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wasn't allowed to like I was at Monks the first

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there was five of us that were the first Jewish

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kids to be allowed to cotillion. You know we're talking

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about like really, they on the bus, they checked for

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my horns. You know, I come from you know, Boston

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where it was just saturated.

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That's so funny. You just said that because I was

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just having a conversation, and it's funny. It was in

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my head to talk about it. Like just a few

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minutes ago, my brother's mother, who's ninety years old. We

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were talking about something and I brought brought up the

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thing about we were talking about different places where people live.

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Sometimes they're so isolated in that bubble they really don't

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understand where other people's thought processes come from. And that's

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where I even understand people that are different than me,

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because maybe they have different influences that. You know, it

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doesn't mean it right or wrong, it's just where you

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are is what you're accustomed to. And we were just

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talking about the devil horn. She said she had said

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to me ninety years of living, she only heard about

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that recently where somebody said something to her, and I said, man,

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I've gotten that most of my life. You know, it's

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you know well, and.

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It's interesting because it's it's a you know, you hear all.

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The part of the news story to ignore today is

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that it's gotten worse. You know, that's part of the

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you know, making you know, my people afraid. I feel

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like that's all that's doing is fostering fear because I

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experienced such grotesque in the South into semotism, you know,

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the invent jelical creed. You know, again, I'm not trying

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to offend anyone, but the creed is you know, like

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I you know, I remember being you killed Jesus. I

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remember kids throwing money at me. I mean this is

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like nineteen eighty one, and I was like, I was

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never taught that as a child, like I was. First

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of all, it's so true, but I was always taught

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to revere. Growing up in Boston. My parents were very

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open and my mother I always talk about this as

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my earliest memory was. It was must have been like three,

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and I'm standing at the dishwasher. You know, those old dishwasher.

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I can tell because remember they used to steam a

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lot when you would stand this, and my mother would

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hang stockings on the dishwasher. Because the town was half Catholic,

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half Jewish that I lived in, and we all kind

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of hung out with each other, like it was very,

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very different. And but remember my mother saying, she would say,

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she goes. You know, Jesus was just like Martin Luther

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King and John F. Kennedy. He was a great man,

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like this is a very you know, it was just

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like nothing. And my dad used to say, hey, kid,

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maybe it's the next big thing. And he was raised orthodox,

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like nobody had that kind of tension that I it

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was exposed to when I came to the evangelical like

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deep South, and I did not receive the anti semitism

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from you know, my black friends. It was in the

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South that was it was mostly you know, the super

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church model.

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I would say, it's funny, you should say that. It's funny.

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You should say that because when I so, I was

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moving back from California to New Jersey to go to Rutgers,

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and I brought my black friend with me, who's one

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of my best friends, and we're driving across the country

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and we're in you know, we're in Texas, which is

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also the Deep South in that attitude, and so we're

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at one place, we're in El Paso, and a payphone.

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I know some people listening. I don't know what that is,

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but I miss it was a thing. I missed the

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ones in New Jersey. We used to have to drive

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up payphones like it was great during the winter, Like

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I had business appointments and you would pull off the

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Garden State Parkway and there would be these phones lined

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up that you just drove up to. You took the phone,

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you put up the window during the winter so you

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didn't freeze and there you go.

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It was it was.

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It was the closest he got to a mobile phone night.

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Right right right. I just feel like it was like

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intentional communication. I mean, nobody could reach me. I missed

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that piece, you.

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Know, exactly exactly. And so basically I'm looking at some

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people coming towards us in the parking lot and I

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go to my friend. He was the one on the phone,

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like we need to leave, and he didn't know what

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was going on. He's like why, I'm like, I'll tell

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you in a minute. We need to leave now. And

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basically it was some Deep South white you know, and

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they were coming over because he was black. Okay. But

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then on the other another part of Texas where there

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to his grandfather's like farm and like all the you know,

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one of those places in the Deep South that they're

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just all out there hanging out, one big family. I

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felt less, I felt more safe there, and I like

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I felt more like part of them, you know. It

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was like, oh yeah, I had no issues whatsoever. I

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had to one of the best times I ever had

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in my life.

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I had very similar experiences all the way through college

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like I did African American studies at the University of

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Central Florida, and I found freedom in the writings of

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Zora Milhurston and I had I've had a great grief

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coming to the Midwest where those relationships aren't. This is

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a different this is a different feeling in Chicago Land.

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in Malcolm X world. And that's you know, MLK and

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Rabbi Heschel were kicked out of Chicago's. So I mean,

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I'm living in a There's just two very different worlds.

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Spuerto Weecan and he's from Brooklyn, and so we both

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in that we feel we've never felt more who we are,

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at the law library, we were getting all the judges

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on the computers. Can you imagine in the nineties, But

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it was Mike Staff, it was Miscaletus, Haitian Lee was Irish.

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Miss Barbara was you make and Miss Maria was Cuban.

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but we never thought about it. We met. It was

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just it was so I have such grief over that

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separation and and and I'm very passionate about it that

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you know that I'm not going to let people tell

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me that that didn't exist like that, that we did

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make progress, and I'm not gonna you know what I mean.

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I think that there's a lot of pulling people apart

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in order to, you know, keep things a certain way.

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mean I chanted Joam Kapoor at Saint Andrew's Episcopal Church

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for the Ford the Children Haitian children every year for

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seven years. And I had a Sufi Baba, I had

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a Islamic uh leader, I had everybody would come for

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Nadre with my torah and they would be there and

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we'd fill the church and raise money for kids. But

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it's just as soon as you know, I would say,

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twenty I don't know twenty sixteen is when I really

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noticed the shift. But coming here, I just it's just

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not the same.

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It's it got in my opinion. God, God doesn't divide,

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man divide.

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No, Yeah, And I was never raised that way, and

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so I think that the real crime, and what I

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saw on the pulpit when I was there for five

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years is that I kept trying to distill the fear

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in my congres. It's like, it's not worse. You've just

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been lucky. You haven't seen and lived where I've lived.

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You know, they're trying to tell you it's worse, so

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they can negate the fact that it was always lying underneath.

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Well, this stuff that's been going on for Jews of time, Okay,

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Like history does repeat itself, and you know, there's a

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lot of things we're seeing nowadays that happened in the

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last century during the exact same decades, you know, and

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it's just we don't learn anyway.

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But here's the thing, Like I love the title of

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your show because I believe that if people would stop

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for just one moment and realize that the Jewish people

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were removed from their land six thousand years ago as

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an indigenous people removed, you know, removed and genocided and

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compared to animals, and every single United Nations we meet

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every single number on the checklist for indigenous people by

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the way, So but this happened six thousand years ago,

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So we have we're in a state of maturity where

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when these things happen over and over again to us,

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we don't stop living, right, you know, the inner strength

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is something that I think we could have each other

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like there are there are there are indigenous people on

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this continent. There are people who can't get beyond the

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trauma that if somehow they could understand that, like we,

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there's something in the essence of being raised Jewish that

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no matter what happens to you, believe me, you're going

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to get up and you're going to live your life

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and you're going to do your best to make life

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better for everyone around you, whether you go to synagogue

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or not. You're raised like that. If you're raised in

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in that uh that first of all, I have this

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believe that everybody should be required to travel and see

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other cultures in other countries. It's pretty normal in Europe.

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It's almost like a requirement there. And I think because

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people live in this bubble and they don't realize till

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they get out there in the world. I was thinking

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about when you're talking about, you know, being in the

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church and doing call Nidre. I was thinking about when

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I was in Bali a couple of years ago and

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went into this cave that was uh for Hindus and Buddhists,

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and it was it was a Hindu and Buddhist temple

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all in one. I'm like, now, how cool is that

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that here we are two different philosophies that can coexist,

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not only on Earth, but within the same cave.

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It's so awesome. Like when I was in Peru. You know,

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I do like trauma work, shamanic work, the healing rabbi

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dot com if you want to do trauma work with me.

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But you know, being up with the medicine people, the

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Paco people, in the in the in Peru, and I

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had my Telly the whole time on, you know, and

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I had you know, you always feel like you're being

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a bad Joe. You don't know what I mean. There's

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always a little bit of that guilt. But it was

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so great being with the Pacos and and they we

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talked about the similarities. We talked about like the four

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worlds in there culled. We looked for the similarities, not

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the differences, and we were you know, these are truths

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that came down on all the mountains at the same time,

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just not in the same place. So it's it's like

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reflecting a truth that can't you can't. You can only

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speak to people through their environment. We have the sensory

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we're sensory beings. So what you talk to somebody on

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the island of Hawaii, you're not going to with all

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that gorgeous you know, it's not going to come down

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the same way as it would in northern Europe, you know,

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and you know, so it's it's it's just very cool

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to me to continue to be somebody like yourself who

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you know, people will always want to put you in

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a box. They're always want to figure you out. And

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the goal is there's no box.

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There's no box, and the division is man made, okay.

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And like like you said, we all like we all

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kind of pretty much believe the same thing, just different

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different stories, different you know, times, different geographics, different uh,

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you know, perceptions. But at the end of the day.

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Who cares what somebody believes as long as it makes

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them a better person and makes them feel good. That's

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the way I look at it.

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can't remember who was talking about it, but you know,

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We're all flawed, We're all like, we're all on this

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rock together. And this this obsession. Did you ever see them?

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I'm obsessed with this movie from the nineteen eighties call

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They Live by John Carpenter. Did you ever watch that?

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I'm pretty sure I saw it?

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Okay, do you remember with the sunglasses and like in

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the church and the same classes consume or conform, like,

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I think we have to be less concerned with who

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somebody is praying to that we do with the fact

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that we are consuming the reason, like at such a

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rapid rate and such an unconscious rate. Like there's bigger

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stuff going on. And I think that when you essentially,

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when you look at the Hindu faith, and you look

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at the Buddhist faith, and you the Jewish faith, there

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isn't essential focus on life or Wiccan or pagan on life,

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you know, living life. When you when you look at

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some of the other major religions that have evolved, they've

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become very after life focused, and they become very deaf,

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like what's going to happen after And that's just a

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manipulation of industrialization, Like how can you keep people punching

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a clock? You can promise them something at the end

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of the rainbow, you know, where Unfortunately, Jewish we're like, yeah,

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there's nothing at the end of the rainbow. You know,

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I better go find a rainbow.

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But but I love the irony that we have devil

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horns and we don't even believe that there's a such

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thing as a fictional character called the devil.

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Well, here's here's the thing. The real thing about those

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horns is it's when you look at the United Nations

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standards about indigenous people and you it's it's the They

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weren't devil's horns. That's that's an interpretation. It was animal.

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human an animal like. And and that was the same

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thing when you talk about the savages, you know, when

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they came over and murdered millions, hundreds of millions of people,

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and you know, I always say to other pece I said,

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when you go to the National Parks, you does does

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anybody ever ask themselves who used to live here? Like

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that's me, Like, I'm like, where is everybody?

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But there's there's just kind of this. It's deeper than that.

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It's not it's they're so, it's so it's it's so strange.

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I'll tell you what I love most about being Jewish

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because I'm a born Jew and a chosen Jew, and

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it even relates to how you are. It's like being

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a Jew, we don't believe Tora. We study Torah. I

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think that's a big fundamental difference. We're not just blind faith.

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We're actually commanded to question the Torah and question God

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and everything else because that's how you learn from questions.

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And it's okay if we have certain things that we

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mix in, like I'm very much about Buddhist philosophies. It's

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a very positive thing. And being a Jew, that's okay.

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If I were another religion I may not name right now,

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it'd be like, oh, you're not going to go to

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heaven believing that, And it's like just so ridiculous. Like

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I think we should be able to take a funnel

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and put everything we learn from everywhere that's positive and

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put it in that funnel and make it our belief system,

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not just one thing from that funnel.

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You know, it's not only it's scary, is what it is.

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And when you take the mind of a child and

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you tell them that they're going to burn, like, it's terrifying.

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I've always said to my you know a lot of

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my friends, you know, and their spiritual journey recovering from religion, right,

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I always say, like, the greatest thing is I don't

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know what you're talking about, like when you talk about

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it like I wasn't just raised like that.

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I mean I was.

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I wasn't raised also with a little bit of comfort,

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which would have been nice, but you know, I wasn't

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raised I had to find that, you know, for myself.

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But I wasn't raised with that fear that something the

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original sin con.

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I don't think God is a vengeful God that you

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should fear like that. To me, that's the most ridiculous concept.

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It should be all love and light. That's my viewpoint.

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Well, and the tra is, you know, I always say

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that Tora is you know, of course as she because

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she is a she and those letters are tattooed on

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her body all over it, and the tra has been

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interpreted the Hebrew, the code has been interpreted in a

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very unusual way by you know, male people in.

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The you know, a long long time ago and in

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a different world. Right, yeah, but it's but.

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It's sort of like you know, it's you know when

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you look at like the just the simple creation story

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and then man's created, and then the truth is is

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that man was created as like a steward to take

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care of and take care of the world. Like that's

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the Rabbinical many of them, you know, but if you

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read some of it, it's like, no, this was created

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for us, and so that takes us from the web

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of life. It takes us out, It makes us somehow

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like in dominion or in rulership of it. When the

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truth is is we're a part of it. And people

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00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:50.480
are desperate need to remember that. They're not in their

447
00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:53.960
bodies today, they're just really you know that because you

448
00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:56.319
go in the ocean all the time and the gulf,

449
00:25:56.480 --> 00:25:59.599
because you know, you have to ground because there's so

450
00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:03.640
much information just coming at us all the time that

451
00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:06.119
if you don't ground, you don't And their kids say

452
00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:08.599
they don't even know what it feels like, what's your gut?

453
00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:11.119
And I'll tell you what's the scariest thing is now

454
00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:14.039
this medication that's turning off people's guts. I don't care

455
00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:15.880
what people. You know, you want to make yourself look

456
00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:20.200
like that, that's great, okay, but it's turning off your gut,

457
00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:24.240
the most neurons in your body, it's turning it off,

458
00:26:25.079 --> 00:26:28.279
and you cant. I'm like, who, you know, there's something

459
00:26:28.359 --> 00:26:30.799
to that. You know, I'm getting a little I'm getting

460
00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:34.000
a little soap boxy, but I like it. It's kind

461
00:26:34.039 --> 00:26:37.039
of like I feel like, why why why do people

462
00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:39.400
want to not be in their body? Why do people

463
00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:42.319
want to be the body of a seventh grader? I

464
00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:44.359
can't figure that out in seventh grade, I know nothing

465
00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:47.359
about my life. Like but you know, you hear that

466
00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:49.119
all the time, but this is what I always thought

467
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:50.079
I would look like.

468
00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:53.279
Or this is I sometimes wonder what they see in

469
00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:57.440
the mirror some people, because like, oh my god, that

470
00:26:57.640 --> 00:27:00.880
doesn't look good, and they think it looks good, and

471
00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:04.640
the filters and the filters and everything else. It's like

472
00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:08.200
I know people that I know what they look like,

473
00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:11.759
and I'll give them crap because I'm like, can I

474
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:14.799
see what you actually look like? You know, because I've

475
00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:18.839
brought all this stuff and we live in this selfie world.

476
00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:23.240
It's self centered. It's like, it's what it is is,

477
00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:28.640
it's self centered. And I believe that if anything Jewish

478
00:27:28.759 --> 00:27:31.200
anti Semitism against.

479
00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:34.720
I'm glad you brought that up, is the result of.

480
00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:41.640
A self centered young generation who have not experienced the

481
00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:45.720
Nahus or the you know they're not They're They're coming

482
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:49.359
from a very there easy. When you're living neck up,

483
00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:52.960
you can be manipulated when you're in your God. I

484
00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:54.759
tried to explain this to someone yesterday and said, when

485
00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:57.039
you know what you believe, nobody can blow you over

486
00:27:57.119 --> 00:27:58.799
your roots deep you don't care.

487
00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:03.359
No doubt. And I think my generation, your generation, we

488
00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:06.960
created these monsters. I'll put it this way, is because

489
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.480
because our generation, like we had to figure things out,

490
00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:12.240
we were on our own, we had to deal with

491
00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:15.880
all the tumult we had to deal with everything, and

492
00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:18.440
then we had kids and decided we didn't want our

493
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:20.319
kids to go through what we had to go through,

494
00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:22.799
So we spoiled the crap out of them them, made

495
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:27.079
them entitled, shielded them from everything and now they can't

496
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:31.960
handle anything. And you know, you bring up the Jew thing.

497
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:36.000
That's what bothers me most of all is Jewish anti Semitism.

498
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:39.240
It's like, how are you against your own people? What

499
00:28:39.519 --> 00:28:43.160
is wrong with you? That is one that really gets me.

500
00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:45.920
And I'll tell you what too. My youngest daughter, she

501
00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:54.440
had a very beneficial learning experience and I thank October

502
00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:56.680
seventh for that. If I'm going to pick a positive

503
00:28:56.759 --> 00:28:59.200
of October seventh, this is going to be it. Because

504
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:02.759
before our October seventh my youngest story, she was very

505
00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:07.720
much a woke person and all her friends were woke

506
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:15.119
person people. And basically she went on birthright. I sent

507
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.400
her on birthright to Israel. And there's another thing. I

508
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:22.599
think every Jew should go to Israel because otherwise they

509
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:25.200
have this thing in their head. And you mentioned something earlier.

510
00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:29.440
That's another peeve of mine. People Israel did not start

511
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:34.039
in nineteen forty eight. This narrative that everybody's painting that

512
00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:37.279
Israel's only been around since nineteen forty eight kind of

513
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:40.599
blows my mind. But okay, you know, but she went

514
00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:43.880
to Israel. She had a great time. That great people,

515
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:50.240
you know, did all the experiences came back and October

516
00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:52.920
seventh happened. It was the summer before October seventh that

517
00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:57.480
she did birthright and some people she met there ended

518
00:29:57.559 --> 00:30:02.599
up hostages. Some of her cab was taken out, you

519
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:07.319
know that she was at you know, other people you know,

520
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:11.759
probably died, you know, like all this stuff that went on,

521
00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:17.359
and all she woke up from being woke when that

522
00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:20.839
happened because she was going to school and still is

523
00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:27.079
up in the Panhandle. And so basically she came back

524
00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:29.920
and went to school and was afraid to go to

525
00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:33.240
school because they were having violent protests. And part of

526
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:37.599
the people that were the hate against her were her friends, Yeah,

527
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:40.680
all of them, all of them. Like she changed all

528
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:46.039
her friends. She got involved with the Khabbad at her school,

529
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:49.480
who was like right there, and then you know, she

530
00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:54.599
felt some safety there and she really found her Jewish

531
00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:59.839
It's not I don't call it faith, I call it identity,

532
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:02.599
you know, like I think she didn't have. We all

533
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:05.640
grew up with that identity, and I think kids today

534
00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:08.720
are not getting being given that identity, so they don't

535
00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:13.440
relate as much or or kids well after our generation,

536
00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:14.039
you know.

537
00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:17.400
The more Dan you know, and and the more dangerous

538
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:20.440
part is there's a history erasing going on. And I

539
00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:24.200
literally when my son who's out in Boulder, he became

540
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:26.880
part of the quote unquote woke people, which I always say,

541
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:31.079
woke is warm, open, kind to everyone, like stop it already,

542
00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:34.799
just stop, you know, just stop it. You know, you

543
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:36.240
don't you want to be woke, but you don't want

544
00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:37.759
to be on like you don't want to be like

545
00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:40.279
a you know, on an all nighter, you know, like

546
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:44.720
on notos, like chill out, you know. But but for me,

547
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:47.839
it's the rewriting of history. So what I did because

548
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:51.400
see I was in Israel in the eighties and I

549
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:56.039
was I was part of the post Peace Prize era

550
00:31:56.200 --> 00:32:00.799
fat contingent nineteen he was nineteen ninety two and President

551
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:04.559
Bill Clinton did that. But there was an erasing of

552
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:06.119
the Arafat history.

553
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:07.160
Oh yeah.

554
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:09.240
And so what I did is I just put together

555
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:12.240
a history for my children because you can't find it online.

556
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:15.119
I went to the Israel. I also put a history

557
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:18.920
of all the food and resources that have been going

558
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:22.920
into the West Bank every single day and Gaza every

559
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:26.799
single day without stopping except for the hour that the

560
00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:29.400
missiles are in the air. That is when it stops.

561
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:33.400
I like, got all the information from the senses and everything,

562
00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:35.920
and I sent it to my kids and I said, listen,

563
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:38.119
you just if you still feel the same way after

564
00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:41.039
you read this, I said, But the thing that's mostly

565
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:43.920
erased by all of this, that is fueled by the

566
00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:47.079
British media is that Israel when it was created in

567
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:50.519
nineteen forty eight, was the result of a horrifying, horrifying

568
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:53.880
experience where most people in Europe turned a blind eye,

569
00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:57.319
where trains of our people were sent it to camps

570
00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:02.119
where literally the United States and Britain bombed around the trains.

571
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:04.880
Like these things really happened. And I would say, my

572
00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:08.799
best friend lives in Tel Aviv. Now, if you asked

573
00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:11.359
her grandparents, is that's where they wanted to end up,

574
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:15.279
I can tell you they might say no, because most

575
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:20.000
people that ended up in that area were turned away

576
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:24.000
from other places. Yes, there were the hippies who came

577
00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:27.519
from Russia to settle Palestine, and you know a lot

578
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:30.839
of that feeling that was happening, But so many of

579
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:33.559
the people who ended up there, it's not like they went, hey,

580
00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:37.200
I want to go to Israel, like this is an

581
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:41.200
amazing place that has emerged. If you go there, everybody

582
00:33:41.319 --> 00:33:41.759
lives there.

583
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:46.480
Right, it's one of the most diverse liberal places on

584
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:47.240
the planet.

585
00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:49.640
On the planet. Well it's you know, unfortunately some of

586
00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:52.400
that is shifting a little bit.

587
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:53.839
Well that's politicians.

588
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:56.519
Yeah, it's crazy. It's the same, it's same. But I

589
00:33:56.920 --> 00:34:00.720
just have to say that I'm a big passionate about reality,

590
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:04.160
Like I want my kids to know reality, because until

591
00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:08.000
we look at reality, we can't change it. We don't

592
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:10.960
have to be ashamed of our American history. We have

593
00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:12.840
to just tell it and then.

594
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:15.719
Change it and learn from it. You know, Yes, listen,

595
00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:19.840
I love what you said about Yasser Arafat because it's like,

596
00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:24.199
does nobody know that Yasser Arafat was a terrorist?

597
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:28.280
Like but for real, Like you couldn't, you could, You couldn't,

598
00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:32.960
Like cafes were bombs, buses, the whole thing, all the

599
00:34:33.239 --> 00:34:35.880
entire but it was a it was a timeline that

600
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:40.320
was rewritten and also erased.

601
00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:44.039
Interesting that you brought up the UK because the most

602
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:47.360
famous conspiracy theorist who also came up with the idea

603
00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:50.079
that the Holocaust never happened, he also came up with

604
00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:54.280
the idea that the Jews paid Hitler to do that,

605
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:57.679
which that's that people even believe that that's funniest shit

606
00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:02.119
on earth. But but David Ike, like, he's a whack

607
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:04.840
job and he's out of the UK and he's a

608
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:06.679
total whack job now.

609
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:09.440
And this is the fact that this is a kingdom

610
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:14.760
that basically had the first concentration camps in India, and

611
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:17.920
you're talking about the British Empire that basically is now

612
00:35:18.039 --> 00:35:21.840
reduced to an island. And they are really the ones

613
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:24.880
pushing the Palestinian agenda.

614
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:28.079
And oh yeah, I could tell you that firsthand, pushing it.

615
00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:32.880
And they're the ones that created it as a gift

616
00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:37.199
for ignoring what was happening. Like what's the gift? You know,

617
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:38.119
this is a gift.

618
00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:41.480
I'm like, yeah, right, but I could tell you firsthand.

619
00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:43.519
I'll be there in a couple of weeks. I do

620
00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:46.480
coverage at music festivals over there in the UK, and

621
00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:47.880
since October seven.

622
00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:50.679
FILESO I love, I love England, but come on, now

623
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:51.760
you have a king you know.

624
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:58.079
Yeah, so October seven, after October seventh, sometimes it's scary

625
00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:01.119
to go to these festivals. I was at one where

626
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:07.960
the whole crowd by the band encourage them that was singing,

627
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:13.000
chant and chanting death to the IDF you know, and

628
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:18.960
stuff like and like, seriously, should you know, why do

629
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:22.599
you most of these people chanting this stuff or protesting

630
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:25.079
this stuff, they're not like the hippies. The hippies at

631
00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:29.960
least they were educated and knew what they were fighting for.

632
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:34.159
These people, you ask them where Palestine is, they don't

633
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:38.119
even know. They don't even know, they don't know who

634
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:42.800
anybody is. It's just a trendy thing to jump on.

635
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:46.639
But the problem is it's so dangerous because they're gonna

636
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:49.400
jump on every trendy thing and not even know what

637
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:54.039
they're trying to accomplish. And all they're doing is accomplishing

638
00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:57.000
more hate, not more love, right, and they're not.

639
00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:01.000
You know, It's where we can have you know, when

640
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:04.360
we talk about this show, is that there's hope. You know,

641
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:07.639
I do believe that there's hope right at Tikva, you know,

642
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:12.199
but I believe that there's hope because whenever you have

643
00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:15.000
a heart open, you know, it's like when you have

644
00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:19.239
one conversation with somebody, uh and you open their heart

645
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:22.039
to the truth or you open their heart that you're

646
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:26.039
just we're just human beings. You know, and and we

647
00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:29.400
have to be in this together. We have so many

648
00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:33.840
things to deal with that we we we have to

649
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:38.840
stand against division because division is a distraction that keeps

650
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:42.679
us from ignoring the fact that we have some things

651
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:45.599
to work on. And one of those is that we

652
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:48.079
have to be able to stand each other. Because the

653
00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:50.079
one thing I'll tell you about the future, the future

654
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:54.519
involves cooperation, community, helping people. And I'm going to give

655
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:56.119
a shout out to where I live because I live

656
00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:58.159
in will County, Illinois, and I have to tell you

657
00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:00.199
I run a treatment center, a nonprofit try and so

658
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:02.880
they are called stepping stones for addiction and substance use.

659
00:38:03.320 --> 00:38:06.280
And my county is so generous. I have the most

660
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:10.320
amazing board of directors. I have witnessed the social services

661
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:13.679
in our area, which you know, Julia has is the South,

662
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:17.719
you know, like you said, the South, but it's I

663
00:38:18.199 --> 00:38:21.440
think that the future is partnerships. The future is joining together.

664
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:29.599
Faith and religion has to make way for community. It

665
00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:33.039
has to make way for and there will always be

666
00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:36.719
people who who want the hereafter. I can't fight that.

667
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:39.599
I can't fight the fact that you want to have

668
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:42.960
the guarantee that you'll get in somewhere when this is over,

669
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:46.239
I personally believe I'll just be right back as like

670
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:49.599
I don't know something else, but you know, like I

671
00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:52.920
just I just think there's so much hope in community

672
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:55.440
and whatever we can do, whatever you can do, Dean,

673
00:38:55.559 --> 00:38:58.320
whatever I can do through the way we communicate and say,

674
00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:00.920
you know, it's just not about that. It's about the

675
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:04.400
fact that the Tara teaches us that you are the world.

676
00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:08.440
You are the world, every single person is the world,

677
00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:12.400
and so we have to come together and takun a Lam,

678
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:17.519
not just Jews, not just Christians, not just scientologists, not

679
00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:20.440
just anybody, and just all of us and go, no

680
00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:24.559
doubt it's just But I so I sort of, you know,

681
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:27.519
I think it can be easy to get bogged down.

682
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:32.000
In a lot of that, but everybody wants to be

683
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:34.760
part of a club too, and that's what that's how

684
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:37.840
they create the division because they know humans like that.

685
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:40.960
But you know what, if we all banded together and

686
00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:45.239
start to learn from each other, understand each other, we

687
00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:48.119
would be way more powerful than the powers that be

688
00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:49.800
that are trying to divide us.

689
00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:54.119
And to realize how absolutely amazing it is like when

690
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:57.039
you understand, when you when you like, I'm going to

691
00:39:57.079 --> 00:39:59.840
get like a little like, I don't know, but when

692
00:39:59.880 --> 00:40:02.119
you you understand how amazing it is the amount of

693
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:05.920
torahs that survive the show up. And when you go

694
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:09.159
into a showl like, listen, I've had enough show. I'll

695
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:11.880
be honest, but because of I'm a woman and I'm

696
00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:15.199
very feminine, so there you go. But when you go

697
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:20.400
into a showl and you see I have a Holocaust scroll,

698
00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:25.840
But when you understand like the six hundred thousand letters

699
00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:29.239
that are written on there, and you understand I don't

700
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:34.119
know if that's the right number, but you you just

701
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:36.559
just the fact that the stories in there are the

702
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:40.880
same stories that are told in North America around the fire.

703
00:40:41.199 --> 00:40:43.679
They're the same creation stories that are told in the

704
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:47.639
Aborigines under the starting Sky. They're the same exact I'm

705
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:51.840
getting excited stories, the same exact stories.

706
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:57.159
Well, you know, Relaz there's this religion, I forget what

707
00:40:57.280 --> 00:40:59.880
it's called, but they believe that we all came from

708
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:06.360
Clay and it's the same story. Just Clay is in

709
00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:08.639
there instead, you know, but.

710
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:14.039
It's that same story of humanity and the emotions and

711
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:18.239
the struggles and the you know, and instead of looking

712
00:41:18.320 --> 00:41:21.599
for the differences. We just have to we just have

713
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:26.400
to look for the similarities. You know, I'm a little

714
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:30.800
disheartened myself after being here and being sort of censured,

715
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:35.039
and I don't understand us against immigration. I don't understand

716
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:36.000
a lot.

717
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:39.519
That's a little weird, right, it's a little weird. It's

718
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:43.360
a little really like you're against your own ancestry. Then

719
00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:47.760
that's my whole point, Like it just makes no sense

720
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:51.719
to me, Like I could understand a gentile being anti

721
00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:55.000
Semitic way more than a drew being anti Semitic, And

722
00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:58.239
like we have to be one of the only cultures

723
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:02.639
that experience is that because like you don't really see

724
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:07.800
like like your husband, I'm sure most Puerto Ricans are

725
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:13.320
not against Puerto Ricans and siding with the people that

726
00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:16.800
are against them and being racist against them. That's the

727
00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:20.039
point that blows my mind that you side with terrorists,

728
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:23.280
that you side with people that have been trying to

729
00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:26.440
destroy our people since the beginning of time and think

730
00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:29.159
we're the bad ones, but you are one.

731
00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:32.119
Yeah, And I don't I think that maybe if I

732
00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:34.280
was in Florida, I'm gonna be honest, like I think

733
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:36.639
maybe it's my you know, my higher power working in

734
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:38.480
my life, because maybe if I was in Florida, I

735
00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:42.400
might have dipped a little into that wokeness. And I

736
00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:47.800
being here and being on some panels right after the

737
00:42:48.440 --> 00:42:52.320
war or right after the attack I call it October seventh, Yeah,

738
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:58.079
and being on panels with some Egyptian leaders and some

739
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:05.480
leaders in the area from different countries, and the inability

740
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:09.039
to renounce what Hamas did. And because I'm in contact

741
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:11.880
with Israel a lot, and I had seen my Galat

742
00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:14.440
showed me the videos. So I was one of the

743
00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:16.960
Americans that had the privilege of knowing what really happened

744
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:19.639
that day because they wouldn't let them show the videos.

745
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:25.639
But you know, I felt the you know that old fear,

746
00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:29.719
like this isn't a normal kind of It's not just

747
00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:31.719
like you get to like ride on the bus but

748
00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:35.639
sit in the back and it's no, it's we just

749
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:39.239
want you to die like it's it's it's a deep

750
00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:44.000
it's a deep like violence that I I got on.

751
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:50.559
I stopped doing panels because I really I wasn't scared.

752
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:54.639
I was just questioning what am I doing? What is

753
00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:59.079
this doing? You know what providing a place for someone

754
00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:03.320
to is what is this about? It felt like there

755
00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:06.960
was a little bit of an agenda to create that

756
00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:14.199
woke mindset and listen, here's the thing if you you know,

757
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:19.000
my my when if you are Islamic Muslim and you

758
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:21.679
are in the United States, you are terrified. And I

759
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:25.800
can identify with that because that's a subtext of when

760
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:27.960
you grow up as a Jewish person that doesn't live

761
00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:30.599
in like I don't know Brooklyn or New Jersey or

762
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:33.400
like I don't know La, when.

763
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:36.119
You grow up around you. I've heard that in my life,

764
00:44:36.199 --> 00:44:37.320
maying that what the do.

765
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:41.920
You? But when you grow up you know. And this

766
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:44.599
is to my my Muslim brothers and sisters, and I

767
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:48.360
mean this from my heart, like I know you're scared,

768
00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:55.920
and I know that that fear can morph into diversion, deflection,

769
00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:00.360
whatever you can do to keep the attention off because

770
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:04.960
you're scared, you know, And we're here to stand with you.

771
00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:08.960
I'm here to stand with you against all tyranny, against

772
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:12.199
all hate, against all deportation, you know. And I get

773
00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:15.119
a little political because that's my hot button. I mean,

774
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:20.920
my oldest daughter's Haitian and my husband's obviously Puerto Rican,

775
00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:23.519
but they're American, you know, but you know, but I

776
00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:27.719
mean coming from Miami, like I have a you know,

777
00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:32.719
America is the people who come here. That is exactly amazing.

778
00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:37.280
Oh my god. It's like seriously that the country was

779
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:42.119
formed based on immigration and it's always been about immigration

780
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:46.280
and the diversity of its people. You know, and we

781
00:45:46.519 --> 00:45:51.199
all can live together in harmony and stop listening to

782
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:53.360
the people trying and divide us and talk to each

783
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:57.360
other instead, right right, And there's you know, I.

784
00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:00.679
Mean, I think that it's going to be a bumpy ride.

785
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:04.480
You know, this is still bumpy, but we come out

786
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:07.320
and we be a positive representative. I love what you

787
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:09.960
shared about like being you know, we study the tora.

788
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:10.599
You know.

789
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:13.239
I always say you may be the only Tora someone

790
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:16.400
meets you. May you have to be it. You're the

791
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:19.960
living Torah. You have to love your neighbor as yourself.

792
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:22.360
You have to give a little corner of your field

793
00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:25.320
to the person who might show up and be hungry.

794
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:28.239
You have to do all of those things in how

795
00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:33.199
you live your life. And you know, and that is just,

796
00:46:33.800 --> 00:46:37.639
you know, a challenge. It's a challenge and a very selfish,

797
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:41.840
self centered I mean, it's a weird world right now.

798
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:45.079
I mean I'll be on YouTube and I'll be watching

799
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:47.320
a video. I mean mighty, and they get you with

800
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:49.159
your hot button. You know you have you may have

801
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:52.360
your own hot buttons. My hot button is getting older skin,

802
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:54.880
you know, skincare supplements.

803
00:46:55.960 --> 00:46:56.559
You'll be just.

804
00:46:56.639 --> 00:46:58.920
Watching a video, you watch a commercial, you hit that

805
00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:02.239
cart button. You know, you're on your phone, Like, what

806
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:04.960
the hell just happened? I didn't even know I was

807
00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:08.800
gonna buy it. Like, there's like a weird amount of

808
00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:12.800
access that's happening to our nervous systems.

809
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:15.679
And I don't think I don't think we have too

810
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:19.360
much information too, because I, like you said earlier, Okay,

811
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:22.119
it's not that this is a new thing, and I've

812
00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:25.760
said this before. It's that we just are getting bombarded

813
00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:27.920
with the information about it. When I was a kid,

814
00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:30.880
I knew about Yasser Arafat, and I know about the

815
00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:34.159
problems and all that, but not the extent of now

816
00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:36.960
where it's in your face all the freaking time, and

817
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:39.639
you don't even know what to believe anyway, because anybody

818
00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:43.320
can be a journalist nowadays, there's no integrity in journalism.

819
00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:47.480
It's whoever is a voice I have somebody on X

820
00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:51.440
that every time they post something they put breaking news, dude,

821
00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:54.239
And I've said to them, dude, you're not a journalist.

822
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:57.159
You don't even work for a thing. It's not breaking news.

823
00:47:57.320 --> 00:47:59.320
You're just spouting your mouth off.

824
00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:01.239
Well, how about the fact that if you say that

825
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:03.559
it's getting worse, then you negate the fact that there

826
00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:07.519
were KKK meetings in the White House in the twenties, right,

827
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:11.880
like stop it, like what is going on? Like it's

828
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:16.760
it's just these are things that have existed, and by

829
00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:20.719
saying it's worse than you never really it's like a diverse,

830
00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:23.880
it's a diversion. It's like when somebody was telling me

831
00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:26.239
about how you can tell somebody is written in AI.

832
00:48:26.639 --> 00:48:29.320
It's very much like AI. What's going on? Because like AI,

833
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:33.159
when it will write a script will say in Boston,

834
00:48:33.400 --> 00:48:37.199
not in Chicago, but in Boston, Like it always AI

835
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:41.239
always gives a negative to enforce a positive. And so

836
00:48:41.480 --> 00:48:44.320
I think that there's like, oh, it wasn't always that

837
00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:47.400
bad when in like nineteen eighty seven when we were

838
00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:51.480
all high on coke, Like when was it not that bad?

839
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:55.320
You know, Like it's it's very there's something there, Dean.

840
00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:57.639
I mean, we'll have to explore it again because.

841
00:48:57.400 --> 00:49:00.559
There's something there we are running at time, but you

842
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:02.840
definitely have to explore it again because I like that

843
00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:07.159
whole concept there, and that's definitely the Rabbi Jenny experience.

844
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:12.239
I was looking for a thanks so now before we go,

845
00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:15.679
because I'm going to probably run a little late because

846
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:17.960
it's just good stuff. But why don't you tell everybody

847
00:49:18.119 --> 00:49:19.719
how they can reach out to you and all about

848
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:23.159
you know, give your elevator speech of all that you

849
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:25.719
do to help people and why they should reach out

850
00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:25.920
to you.

851
00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:30.719
Well, I mean, you can reach out to me through

852
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:33.039
my website, the Healing Rabbi dot com and it be

853
00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:35.639
the Healing Rabbi at Gmail. I don't think that's weird

854
00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:38.199
to put that out there. I do trauma work. I

855
00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:41.119
do if you're struggling with spiritual we do. I do

856
00:49:41.199 --> 00:49:44.119
a lot of work with spiritual trauma if you and

857
00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:46.440
I only see a couple of clients. But I'm also teaching,

858
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:49.320
which is really exciting at starting live teaching of the

859
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:51.440
Medicine Wheel. So if you felt called to be a

860
00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:54.000
Schmick practitioner, we're going to be starting our first group

861
00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:57.840
and I'm in the Ozarks House Springs, Missouri. Now can

862
00:49:57.880 --> 00:49:59.840
you imagine how the hell did I get air Dane?

863
00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:03.519
And we're going to start in the South in October.

864
00:50:03.639 --> 00:50:08.079
If you're interested, please reach out, and of course, if

865
00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:10.519
you're ever struggling with substance use issues, which is my

866
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:14.599
primary passion. We're here where Stepping Stones were, fully nonprofit.

867
00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:17.800
We are in Illinois, and we take Medicaid and we

868
00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:19.880
have on our mission and purpose that we do not

869
00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:23.119
let somebody's ability pay keep you out of treatment. And

870
00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:25.039
we're an amazing program. So if you ever do a

871
00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:27.239
show on substance use, I'd love to talk to you

872
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:27.880
about that too.

873
00:50:28.360 --> 00:50:31.960
Well, definitely have to do one about that, And there's

874
00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:36.519
definite specific reasons I would want to because I've been

875
00:50:36.599 --> 00:50:40.599
surrounded by addicts my whole life. They're they're like my crowd,

876
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:46.519
and I'm not one of them. I'm the designated no person.

877
00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:51.960
I'm like no so and so, no so so right,

878
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:55.280
But you know, I think people need the kind of

879
00:50:55.320 --> 00:50:58.800
help that you're giving. I'm just real quick. Before the

880
00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:01.840
end the show, you know, I'll get vulnerable. You probably

881
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:04.800
don't even know this because I don't think we talked

882
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:07.719
about but a couple of years ago, my grandson, you know,

883
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:13.760
he passed away from addiction from it at fifteen. Heroin

884
00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:15.800
that's my yeah.

885
00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:17.880
Well, well you know what I think you and I

886
00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:19.719
have been talking about, Well, what are we going to

887
00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:21.760
do together? What are we going to create together? I

888
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:24.239
think that this is the beginning of something. I'm feeling it.

889
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:27.599
I'm feeling it on June third, but it is my

890
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:31.039
passion I've lost. I'm so sorry about your grandson. I've

891
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:37.000
lost so many young, bright, beautiful, wonderful young people and

892
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:41.159
really trying to get in their body. They were trying

893
00:51:41.239 --> 00:51:43.760
to experience life. They were trying to feel something, and

894
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:46.639
I truly believe that in my heart, and so I

895
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:51.320
remain really in their honor passionate about trying to give

896
00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:54.920
the kind of treatment that they that will will help them.

897
00:51:55.159 --> 00:51:58.159
And it's not always easy in today's western medicine world.

898
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:01.320
No it's not. I'm a big believer in what you do,

899
00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:04.159
and I thank you for being here. We'll have to

900
00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:07.679
do some more, for sure. Absolutely, thanks for being on

901
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:10.000
the Adventures of pipe Man right here in W four

902
00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:13.079
c Y Radio, and I ran I had time to

903
00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:14.280
say what I was going to say, so I'm going

904
00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:17.199
to do it really really quick. And if you go

905
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:19.519
to pipe Man Radio on all socials, we are giving

906
00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:24.320
away ticket festival tickets to h Laddered in Life and

907
00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:29.519
Aftershock coming up in the fall. And we also I

908
00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:34.320
just did coverage at Death Angel Violence Insight show here

909
00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:36.639
in Fort Lauride at one of my favorite venues at

910
00:52:36.679 --> 00:52:39.599
the Culture Room. I also did coverage a Joey Roll

911
00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:41.960
right here down the street at the Amphitheater in West

912
00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:44.360
Palm Beach, who is a friend of mine. I interviewed

913
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:46.559
him long before he even got bit as big as

914
00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:49.360
he did. And I'm leaving on the pipe Man Radio

915
00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:54.840
tour tomorrow, heading to Milwaukee. Close to you, Yeah, come visit.

916
00:52:54.920 --> 00:52:56.960
Let's go to breakfast call me you.

917
00:52:57.079 --> 00:52:59.559
Come to me. Are you close to Milwaukee? Are you

918
00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:04.000
going to be two hours? Yeah? So that's difficult. So

919
00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:06.840
I'm gonna be doing the Milwaukee Metal Festival, which is

920
00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:09.360
really killer, and then I leave from there to the

921
00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:14.119
UK to cover Download Festival and uh, keep checking out

922
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my socials for the rest of the Pipemin Radio tour

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and we will be back again soon. Thanks a lot,

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Rabbi Jenny for the experience. It's Shirley Bay Adventure one

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roll it. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipeline.

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I'm w for c UI Radio.