A Pipeman Adventure Into The World of The Rabbi Jenny Experience of Unity & Healing

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0:51 So Fipe Man, I'll go before see White. I com list Pompass number one internet radio station. Here's your host, the Vipe Man. Yo. Here I am. And you know, normally we have Pipeman The Wandering Jew on Tuesday, but we decide to put it on Wednesday because we have a very special experience that's gonna happen today. I do want to say that it was tripping me out during the intro because that was my grandson who was like, I don't know at the time, maybe four, doing my intro and he's now fifteen, and we were doing media coverage together at Welcome to Rockville a couple of weeks ago right here in Florida, and we will talk about towards the end of the show some ticket giveaways to upcoming festivals on the Pipe Man Radio Tour, and we're going to talk about some shows I just covered here locally. And I'm leaving tomorrow for the next leg of the Pipe Main Radio Tour, so we'll talk about that too, but that's later. Right now, I want to introduce somebody I've known for a very long time. You used to also do a show on this station many moons ago, and uh, you're in for a treat or or maybe not today because it might be too many adventures and too many experiences for you.

2:09 Because here on the Adventures of Pipe Man on W four c Y Radio, we we're going to have and this will be Wan's que the Rabbi Jenny experience. So I don't know, it might be too many adventures and experiences for people. I don't know. I don't know that was the pitch name. I think it might have even been you. Indeed, I don't know that pitch that name. The show never really happened, but that was just the gmail, stuck, the Rabbi Jenny experience. So yeah, see where to go. Yeah, it's just like the Grateful Dead experience, Led Zeppelin experience. Everybody has experiences.

2:52 It's my point, Like you know, and boy or we have a lot of experiences in the world today, a special as a jew. Okay, And and you are somebody that I have on the show because you know the purpose of this podcast. Of all of my wacky ones, this is one of the serious ones. But it's the purpose is that we need to stop letting people pull the oldest trek in the book and divide and conquer and create narratives. And we were just talking before the show, like listen, so many times people obsess over the news, the media, their devices, over things that do not affect their life in any way, shape or form. They just get riled up with a bunch of I don't know, hate, attacking to vision. That's all this says. And we're giving all the powers that be that we don't want powers that be the power by doing that, and i'd wrap And that's the mission this show is to squash anti Semitism and squash all hate. I don't care what group it is. Okay, there should be no hate. We're all one race, the human race, and it should all be about love and unity. And that's why we're having the Rabbi Jenny experience because that's what she's gonna be. No pressure, no pressure, no pressure.

4:24 Yes, I mean, it was a unique request to be on the show. I'm here up in Juliet, which is south of Chicago, about thirty minutes. How close are you to the prison? We're pretty close. I mean there's a few prisons here, which but the main, the old one from the Blues Brothers movie is I mean they're both about ten minutes away. I mean, it's time. You know, it's small, it's it's it's but yeah, the. Prison every year, by the way, did you know that? No, Yeah, I'll be going in July. I go to Shawshank Prison every year. Oh nice? Yeah, so like not nice? Like what it is? I do media coverage music festival called Incarceration. That's great, and it's at the actual prison.

5:10 Well, they have they have a blues festival here at the Old State Phlle. I believe it's Jim Belushi and Dan Akroyd they started it and they've there's been a huge revival of Juliet, Like Bill Murray bought the minor league baseball team here and we just finished downtown the rialto I mean, it's a great I don't know how I got here, I'll be honest, but I'm here and it's interesting. It's an interesting The Midwest is an interesting place to be with the way the world is, and. That's a very nice thing to say. It's very behind. And when we talk about some of these issues, it's it's when you've lived in Miami, and when you've lived in like a true melting pot, you know, and worked in downtown Miami and worked in South Florida, you coming to the Midwest where everybody is still extremely separate and just now confronting the issues of coming together, it's it's it's really, it's really a different it's a different vibe. And then of course, you know, I came here and jumped on the pulpit after years of not doing pulpit work, just doing outreach work and social services.

6:18 So I was very shocked at the smallness of religion, you know, after having been such a free spirit for so long, you know, the wandering I am truly like it's a great title for the show because I really am the perfect example of a wandering Jew. That was my nickname by my family before I ever got married, because I always moved where I vacation, so my family would call me the wandering Jew. Yeah. I can't be held back either, you know. I mean I think that that's we share that, you know, I love I love the world. And I also moved from a very Jewish place outside of bob as a young girl. I moved in sixth grade to Fort Myers, Florida, which at the time I believe it was it was nineteen eighty and it was still very segregated, and the Jews there weren't allowed to join clubs at school. I wasn't allowed to like I was at Monks the first there was five of us that were the first Jewish kids to be allowed to cotillion. You know we're talking about like really, they on the bus, they checked for my horns. You know, I come from you know, Boston where it was just saturated.

7:36 That's so funny. You just said that because I was just having a conversation, and it's funny. It was in my head to talk about it. Like just a few minutes ago, my brother's mother, who's ninety years old. We were talking about something and I brought brought up the thing about we were talking about different places where people live. Sometimes they're so isolated in that bubble they really don't understand where other people's thought processes come from. And that's where I even understand people that are different than me, because maybe they have different influences that. You know, it doesn't mean it right or wrong, it's just where you are is what you're accustomed to. And we were just talking about the devil horn. She said she had said to me ninety years of living, she only heard about that recently where somebody said something to her, and I said, man, I've gotten that most of my life. You know, it's you know well, and.

8:36 It's interesting because it's it's a you know, you hear all. The part of the news story to ignore today is that it's gotten worse. You know, that's part of the you know, making you know, my people afraid. I feel like that's all that's doing is fostering fear because I experienced such grotesque in the South into semotism, you know, the invent jelical creed. You know, again, I'm not trying to offend anyone, but the creed is you know, like I you know, I remember being you killed Jesus. I remember kids throwing money at me. I mean this is like nineteen eighty one, and I was like, I was never taught that as a child, like I was. First of all, it's so true, but I was always taught to revere. Growing up in Boston. My parents were very open and my mother I always talk about this as my earliest memory was. It was must have been like three, and I'm standing at the dishwasher. You know, those old dishwasher.

9:35 I can tell because remember they used to steam a lot when you would stand this, and my mother would hang stockings on the dishwasher. Because the town was half Catholic, half Jewish that I lived in, and we all kind of hung out with each other, like it was very, very different. And but remember my mother saying, she would say, she goes. You know, Jesus was just like Martin Luther King and John F. Kennedy. He was a great man, like this is a very you know, it was just like nothing. And my dad used to say, hey, kid, maybe it's the next big thing. And he was raised orthodox, like nobody had that kind of tension that I it was exposed to when I came to the evangelical like deep South, and I did not receive the anti semitism from you know, my black friends. It was in the South that was it was mostly you know, the super church model.

10:27 I would say, it's funny, you should say that. It's funny. You should say that because when I so, I was moving back from California to New Jersey to go to Rutgers, and I brought my black friend with me, who's one of my best friends, and we're driving across the country and we're in you know, we're in Texas, which is also the Deep South in that attitude, and so we're at one place, we're in El Paso, and a payphone. I know some people listening. I don't know what that is, but I miss it was a thing. I missed the ones in New Jersey. We used to have to drive up payphones like it was great during the winter, Like I had business appointments and you would pull off the Garden State Parkway and there would be these phones lined up that you just drove up to. You took the phone, you put up the window during the winter so you didn't freeze and there you go.

11:25 It was it was. It was the closest he got to a mobile phone night. Right right right. I just feel like it was like intentional communication. I mean, nobody could reach me. I missed that piece, you. Know, exactly exactly. And so basically I'm looking at some people coming towards us in the parking lot and I go to my friend. He was the one on the phone, like we need to leave, and he didn't know what was going on. He's like why, I'm like, I'll tell you in a minute. We need to leave now. And basically it was some Deep South white you know, and they were coming over because he was black. Okay. But then on the other another part of Texas where there isn't a white person for one hundred miles. We went to his grandfather's like farm and like all the you know, one of those places in the Deep South that they're just all out there hanging out, one big family. I felt less, I felt more safe there, and I like I felt more like part of them, you know. It was like, oh yeah, I had no issues whatsoever. I had to one of the best times I ever had in my life.

12:47 I had very similar experiences all the way through college like I did African American studies at the University of Central Florida, and I found freedom in the writings of Zora Milhurston and I had I've had a great grief coming to the Midwest where those relationships aren't. This is a different this is a different feeling in Chicago Land. There's there We're living in Faracon world. Here, we're living in Malcolm X world. And that's you know, MLK and Rabbi Heschel were kicked out of Chicago's. So I mean, I'm living in a There's just two very different worlds. And it was a big grief. And my husband's he Spuerto Weecan and he's from Brooklyn, and so we both have felt a sense of cultural grief coming to Chicago in that we feel we've never felt more who we are, Like I don't, I never I mean, I worked in the courthouse in South Florida Day County Courthouse. My staff at the law library, we were getting all the judges on the computers. Can you imagine in the nineties, But it was Mike Staff, it was Miscaletus, Haitian Lee was Irish.

13:59 Miss Barbara was you make and Miss Maria was Cuban. I mean, we were just it was like, it's very but we never thought about it. We met. It was just it was so I have such grief over that separation and and and I'm very passionate about it that you know that I'm not going to let people tell me that that didn't exist like that, that we did make progress, and I'm not gonna you know what I mean. I think that there's a lot of pulling people apart in order to, you know, keep things a certain way. But there was so much, especially in the South Florida. I felt very lucky to have lived there when I did.

14:40 We used to do these huge inter faith events. I mean I chanted Joam Kapoor at Saint Andrew's Episcopal Church for the Ford the Children Haitian children every year for seven years. And I had a Sufi Baba, I had a Islamic uh leader, I had everybody would come for Collndre and church and we and I would chant call Nadre with my torah and they would be there and we'd fill the church and raise money for kids. But it's just as soon as you know, I would say, twenty I don't know twenty sixteen is when I really noticed the shift. But coming here, I just it's just not the same. It's it got in my opinion. God, God doesn't divide, man divide.

15:24 No, Yeah, And I was never raised that way, and so I think that the real crime, and what I saw on the pulpit when I was there for five years is that I kept trying to distill the fear in my congres. It's like, it's not worse. You've just been lucky. You haven't seen and lived where I've lived. You know, they're trying to tell you it's worse, so they can negate the fact that it was always lying underneath. Well, this stuff that's been going on for Jews of time, Okay, Like history does repeat itself, and you know, there's a lot of things we're seeing nowadays that happened in the last century during the exact same decades, you know, and it's just we don't learn anyway.

16:14 But here's the thing, Like I love the title of your show because I believe that if people would stop for just one moment and realize that the Jewish people were removed from their land six thousand years ago as an indigenous people removed, you know, removed and genocided and compared to animals, and every single United Nations we meet every single number on the checklist for indigenous people by the way, So but this happened six thousand years ago, So we have we're in a state of maturity where when these things happen over and over again to us, we don't stop living, right, you know, the inner strength is something that I think we could have each other like there are there are there are indigenous people on this continent. There are people who can't get beyond the trauma that if somehow they could understand that, like we, there's something in the essence of being raised Jewish that no matter what happens to you, believe me, you're going to get up and you're going to live your life and you're going to do your best to make life better for everyone around you, whether you go to synagogue or not. You're raised like that. If you're raised in house like mine.

17:26 That's true. And you know, you know, like I say too, in that uh that first of all, I have this believe that everybody should be required to travel and see other cultures in other countries. It's pretty normal in Europe. It's almost like a requirement there. And I think because people live in this bubble and they don't realize till they get out there in the world. I was thinking about when you're talking about, you know, being in the church and doing call Nidre. I was thinking about when I was in Bali a couple of years ago and went into this cave that was uh for Hindus and Buddhists, and it was it was a Hindu and Buddhist temple all in one. I'm like, now, how cool is that that here we are two different philosophies that can coexist, not only on Earth, but within the same cave.

18:21 It's so awesome. Like when I was in Peru. You know, I do like trauma work, shamanic work, the healing rabbi dot com if you want to do trauma work with me. But you know, being up with the medicine people, the Paco people, in the in the in Peru, and I had my Telly the whole time on, you know, and I had you know, you always feel like you're being a bad Joe. You don't know what I mean. There's always a little bit of that guilt. But it was so great being with the Pacos and and they we talked about the similarities. We talked about like the four worlds in there culled. We looked for the similarities, not the differences, and we were you know, these are truths that came down on all the mountains at the same time, just not in the same place. So it's it's like reflecting a truth that can't you can't. You can only speak to people through their environment. We have the sensory we're sensory beings. So what you talk to somebody on the island of Hawaii, you're not going to with all that gorgeous you know, it's not going to come down the same way as it would in northern Europe, you know, and you know, so it's it's it's just very cool to me to continue to be somebody like yourself who you know, people will always want to put you in a box. They're always want to figure you out. And the goal is there's no box.

19:39 There's no box, and the division is man made, okay. And like like you said, we all like we all kind of pretty much believe the same thing, just different different stories, different you know, times, different geographics, different uh, you know, perceptions. But at the end of the day. Who cares what somebody believes as long as it makes them a better person and makes them feel good. That's the way I look at it. Yeah, And I mean I think that we're all I can't remember who was talking about it, but you know, I mean, I think probably George Carlin. I don't know, We're all flawed, We're all like, we're all on this rock together. And this this obsession. Did you ever see them?

20:26 I'm obsessed with this movie from the nineteen eighties call They Live by John Carpenter. Did you ever watch that? I'm pretty sure I saw it? Okay, do you remember with the sunglasses and like in the church and the same classes consume or conform, like, I think we have to be less concerned with who somebody is praying to that we do with the fact that we are consuming the reason, like at such a rapid rate and such an unconscious rate. Like there's bigger stuff going on. And I think that when you essentially, when you look at the Hindu faith, and you look at the Buddhist faith, and you the Jewish faith, there isn't essential focus on life or Wiccan or pagan on life, you know, living life. When you when you look at some of the other major religions that have evolved, they've become very after life focused, and they become very deaf, like what's going to happen after And that's just a manipulation of industrialization, Like how can you keep people punching a clock? You can promise them something at the end of the rainbow, you know, where Unfortunately, Jewish we're like, yeah, there's nothing at the end of the rainbow. You know, I better go find a rainbow.

21:35 But but I love the irony that we have devil horns and we don't even believe that there's a such thing as a fictional character called the devil. Well, here's here's the thing. The real thing about those horns is it's when you look at the United Nations standards about indigenous people and you it's it's the They weren't devil's horns. That's that's an interpretation. It was animal. They literally were trying to make the jew a non human an animal like. And and that was the same thing when you talk about the savages, you know, when they came over and murdered millions, hundreds of millions of people, and you know, I always say to other pece I said, when you go to the National Parks, you does does anybody ever ask themselves who used to live here? Like that's me, Like, I'm like, where is everybody?

22:29 You know? But there's there's just kind of this. It's deeper than that. It's not it's they're so, it's so it's it's so strange. I'll tell you what I love most about being Jewish because I'm a born Jew and a chosen Jew, and it even relates to how you are. It's like being a Jew, we don't believe Tora. We study Torah. I think that's a big fundamental difference. We're not just blind faith. We're actually commanded to question the Torah and question God and everything else because that's how you learn from questions.

23:10 And it's okay if we have certain things that we mix in, like I'm very much about Buddhist philosophies. It's a very positive thing. And being a Jew, that's okay. If I were another religion I may not name right now, it'd be like, oh, you're not going to go to heaven believing that, And it's like just so ridiculous. Like I think we should be able to take a funnel and put everything we learn from everywhere that's positive and put it in that funnel and make it our belief system, not just one thing from that funnel. You know, it's not only it's scary, is what it is.

23:53 And when you take the mind of a child and you tell them that they're going to burn, like, it's terrifying. I've always said to my you know a lot of my friends, you know, and their spiritual journey recovering from religion, right, I always say, like, the greatest thing is I don't know what you're talking about, like when you talk about it like I wasn't just raised like that. I mean I was. I wasn't raised also with a little bit of comfort, which would have been nice, but you know, I wasn't raised I had to find that, you know, for myself. But I wasn't raised with that fear that something the original sin con.

24:34 I don't think God is a vengeful God that you should fear like that. To me, that's the most ridiculous concept. It should be all love and light. That's my viewpoint. Well, and the tra is, you know, I always say that Tora is you know, of course as she because she is a she and those letters are tattooed on her body all over it, and the tra has been interpreted the Hebrew, the code has been interpreted in a very unusual way by you know, male people in. The you know, a long long time ago and in a different world. Right, yeah, but it's but. It's sort of like you know, it's you know when you look at like the just the simple creation story and then man's created, and then the truth is is that man was created as like a steward to take care of and take care of the world. Like that's the Rabbinical many of them, you know, but if you read some of it, it's like, no, this was created for us, and so that takes us from the web of life. It takes us out, It makes us somehow like in dominion or in rulership of it. When the truth is is we're a part of it. And people are desperate need to remember that. They're not in their bodies today, they're just really you know that because you go in the ocean all the time and the gulf, because you know, you have to ground because there's so much information just coming at us all the time that if you don't ground, you don't And their kids say

26:06 they don't even know what it feels like, what's your gut? And I'll tell you what's the scariest thing is now this medication that's turning off people's guts. I don't care what people. You know, you want to make yourself look like that, that's great, okay, but it's turning off your gut, the most neurons in your body, it's turning it off, and you cant. I'm like, who, you know, there's something to that. You know, I'm getting a little I'm getting a little soap boxy, but I like it. It's kind of like I feel like, why why why do people want to not be in their body? Why do people want to be the body of a seventh grader? I can't figure that out in seventh grade, I know nothing about my life. Like but you know, you hear that all the time, but this is what I always thought I would look like.

26:50 Or this is I sometimes wonder what they see in the mirror some people, because like, oh my god, that doesn't look good, and they think it looks good, and the filters and the filters and everything else. It's like I know people that I know what they look like, and I'll give them crap because I'm like, can I see what you actually look like? You know, because I've brought all this stuff and we live in this selfie world. It's self centered. It's like, it's what it is is, it's self centered. And I believe that if anything Jewish anti Semitism against.

27:32 I'm glad you brought that up, is the result of. A self centered young generation who have not experienced the Nahus or the you know they're not They're They're coming from a very there easy. When you're living neck up, you can be manipulated when you're in your God. I tried to explain this to someone yesterday and said, when you know what you believe, nobody can blow you over your roots deep you don't care. No doubt. And I think my generation, your generation, we created these monsters. I'll put it this way, is because because our generation, like we had to figure things out, we were on our own, we had to deal with all the tumult we had to deal with everything, and then we had kids and decided we didn't want our kids to go through what we had to go through, So we spoiled the crap out of them them, made them entitled, shielded them from everything and now they can't handle anything. And you know, you bring up the Jew thing.

28:32 That's what bothers me most of all is Jewish anti Semitism. It's like, how are you against your own people? What is wrong with you? That is one that really gets me. And I'll tell you what too. My youngest daughter, she had a very beneficial learning experience and I thank October seventh for that. If I'm going to pick a positive of October seventh, this is going to be it. Because before our October seventh my youngest story, she was very much a woke person and all her friends were woke person people. And basically she went on birthright. I sent her on birthright to Israel. And there's another thing. I think every Jew should go to Israel because otherwise they have this thing in their head. And you mentioned something earlier.

29:25 That's another peeve of mine. People Israel did not start in nineteen forty eight. This narrative that everybody's painting that Israel's only been around since nineteen forty eight kind of blows my mind. But okay, you know, but she went to Israel. She had a great time. That great people, you know, did all the experiences came back and October seventh happened. It was the summer before October seventh that she did birthright and some people she met there ended up hostages. Some of her cab was taken out, you know that she was at you know, other people you know, probably died, you know, like all this stuff that went on, and all she woke up from being woke when that happened because she was going to school and still is up in the Panhandle. And so basically she came back and went to school and was afraid to go to school because they were having violent protests. And part of the people that were the hate against her were her friends, Yeah, all of them, all of them. Like she changed all her friends. She got involved with the Khabbad at her school, who was like right there, and then you know, she felt some safety there and she really found her Jewish

30:56 It's not I don't call it faith, I call it identity, you know, like I think she didn't have. We all grew up with that identity, and I think kids today are not getting being given that identity, so they don't relate as much or or kids well after our generation, you know. The more Dan you know, and and the more dangerous part is there's a history erasing going on. And I literally when my son who's out in Boulder, he became part of the quote unquote woke people, which I always say, woke is warm, open, kind to everyone, like stop it already, just stop, you know, just stop it. You know, you don't you want to be woke, but you don't want to be on like you don't want to be like a you know, on an all nighter, you know, like on notos, like chill out, you know. But but for me, it's the rewriting of history. So what I did because see I was in Israel in the eighties and I was I was part of the post Peace Prize era fat contingent nineteen he was nineteen ninety two and President Bill Clinton did that. But there was an erasing of the Arafat history.

32:06 Oh yeah. And so what I did is I just put together a history for my children because you can't find it online. I went to the Israel. I also put a history of all the food and resources that have been going into the West Bank every single day and Gaza every single day without stopping except for the hour that the missiles are in the air. That is when it stops. I like, got all the information from the senses and everything, and I sent it to my kids and I said, listen, you just if you still feel the same way after you read this, I said, But the thing that's mostly erased by all of this, that is fueled by the British media is that Israel when it was created in nineteen forty eight, was the result of a horrifying, horrifying experience where most people in Europe turned a blind eye, where trains of our people were sent it to camps where literally the United States and Britain bombed around the trains.

33:02 Like these things really happened. And I would say, my best friend lives in Tel Aviv. Now, if you asked her grandparents, is that's where they wanted to end up, I can tell you they might say no, because most people that ended up in that area were turned away from other places. Yes, there were the hippies who came from Russia to settle Palestine, and you know a lot of that feeling that was happening, But so many of the people who ended up there, it's not like they went, hey, I want to go to Israel, like this is an amazing place that has emerged. If you go there, everybody lives there. Right, it's one of the most diverse liberal places on the planet.

33:47 On the planet. Well it's you know, unfortunately some of that is shifting a little bit. Well that's politicians. Yeah, it's crazy. It's the same, it's same. But I just have to say that I'm a big passionate about reality, Like I want my kids to know reality, because until we look at reality, we can't change it. We don't have to be ashamed of our American history. We have to just tell it and then. Change it and learn from it. You know, Yes, listen, I love what you said about Yasser Arafat because it's like, does nobody know that Yasser Arafat was a terrorist? Like but for real, Like you couldn't, you could, You couldn't, Like cafes were bombs, buses, the whole thing, all the entire but it was a it was a timeline that was rewritten and also erased.

34:41 Interesting that you brought up the UK because the most famous conspiracy theorist who also came up with the idea that the Holocaust never happened, he also came up with the idea that the Jews paid Hitler to do that, which that's that people even believe that that's funniest shit on earth. But but David Ike, like, he's a whack job and he's out of the UK and he's a total whack job now. And this is the fact that this is a kingdom that basically had the first concentration camps in India, and you're talking about the British Empire that basically is now reduced to an island. And they are really the ones pushing the Palestinian agenda.

35:24 And oh yeah, I could tell you that firsthand, pushing it. And they're the ones that created it as a gift for ignoring what was happening. Like what's the gift? You know, this is a gift. I'm like, yeah, right, but I could tell you firsthand. I'll be there in a couple of weeks. I do coverage at music festivals over there in the UK, and since October seven. FILESO I love, I love England, but come on, now you have a king you know. Yeah, so October seven, after October seventh, sometimes it's scary to go to these festivals. I was at one where the whole crowd by the band encourage them that was singing, chant and chanting death to the IDF you know, and stuff like and like, seriously, should you know, why do you most of these people chanting this stuff or protesting this stuff, they're not like the hippies. The hippies at least they were educated and knew what they were fighting for.

36:31 These people, you ask them where Palestine is, they don't even know. They don't even know, they don't know who anybody is. It's just a trendy thing to jump on. But the problem is it's so dangerous because they're gonna jump on every trendy thing and not even know what they're trying to accomplish. And all they're doing is accomplishing more hate, not more love, right, and they're not. You know, It's where we can have you know, when we talk about this show, is that there's hope. You know, I do believe that there's hope right at Tikva, you know, but I believe that there's hope because whenever you have a heart open, you know, it's like when you have one conversation with somebody, uh and you open their heart to the truth or you open their heart that you're just we're just human beings. You know, and and we have to be in this together. We have so many things to deal with that we we we have to stand against division because division is a distraction that keeps us from ignoring the fact that we have some things to work on. And one of those is that we have to be able to stand each other. Because the one thing I'll tell you about the future, the future involves cooperation, community, helping people. And I'm going to give a shout out to where I live because I live in will County, Illinois, and I have to tell you I run a treatment center, a nonprofit try and so they are called stepping stones for addiction and substance use.

38:03 And my county is so generous. I have the most amazing board of directors. I have witnessed the social services in our area, which you know, Julia has is the South, you know, like you said, the South, but it's I think that the future is partnerships. The future is joining together. Faith and religion has to make way for community. It has to make way for and there will always be people who who want the hereafter. I can't fight that. I can't fight the fact that you want to have the guarantee that you'll get in somewhere when this is over, I personally believe I'll just be right back as like I don't know something else, but you know, like I just I just think there's so much hope in community and whatever we can do, whatever you can do, Dean, whatever I can do through the way we communicate and say, you know, it's just not about that. It's about the fact that the Tara teaches us that you are the world.

39:05 You are the world, every single person is the world, and so we have to come together and takun a Lam, not just Jews, not just Christians, not just scientologists, not just anybody, and just all of us and go, no doubt it's just But I so I sort of, you know, I think it can be easy to get bogged down. In a lot of that, but everybody wants to be part of a club too, and that's what that's how they create the division because they know humans like that. But you know what, if we all banded together and start to learn from each other, understand each other, we would be way more powerful than the powers that be that are trying to divide us.

39:50 And to realize how absolutely amazing it is like when you understand, when you when you like, I'm going to get like a little like, I don't know, but when you you understand how amazing it is the amount of torahs that survive the show up. And when you go into a showl like, listen, I've had enough show. I'll be honest, but because of I'm a woman and I'm very feminine, so there you go. But when you go into a showl and you see I have a Holocaust scroll, But when you understand like the six hundred thousand letters that are written on there, and you understand I don't know if that's the right number, but you you just just the fact that the stories in there are the same stories that are told in North America around the fire.

40:41 They're the same creation stories that are told in the Aborigines under the starting Sky. They're the same exact I'm getting excited stories, the same exact stories. Well, you know, Relaz there's this religion, I forget what it's called, but they believe that we all came from Clay and it's the same story. Just Clay is in there instead, you know, but. It's that same story of humanity and the emotions and the struggles and the you know, and instead of looking for the differences. We just have to we just have to look for the similarities. You know, I'm a little disheartened myself after being here and being sort of censured, and I don't understand us against immigration. I don't understand a lot.

41:36 That's a little weird, right, it's a little weird. It's a little really like you're against your own ancestry. Then that's my whole point, Like it just makes no sense to me, Like I could understand a gentile being anti Semitic way more than a drew being anti Semitic, And like we have to be one of the only cultures that experience is that because like you don't really see like like your husband, I'm sure most Puerto Ricans are not against Puerto Ricans and siding with the people that are against them and being racist against them. That's the point that blows my mind that you side with terrorists, that you side with people that have been trying to destroy our people since the beginning of time and think we're the bad ones, but you are one.

42:29 Yeah, And I don't I think that maybe if I was in Florida, I'm gonna be honest, like I think maybe it's my you know, my higher power working in my life, because maybe if I was in Florida, I might have dipped a little into that wokeness. And I being here and being on some panels right after the war or right after the attack I call it October seventh, Yeah, and being on panels with some Egyptian leaders and some leaders in the area from different countries, and the inability to renounce what Hamas did. And because I'm in contact with Israel a lot, and I had seen my Galat showed me the videos. So I was one of the Americans that had the privilege of knowing what really happened that day because they wouldn't let them show the videos.

43:19 But you know, I felt the you know that old fear, like this isn't a normal kind of It's not just like you get to like ride on the bus but sit in the back and it's no, it's we just want you to die like it's it's it's a deep it's a deep like violence that I I got on. I stopped doing panels because I really I wasn't scared. I was just questioning what am I doing? What is this doing? You know what providing a place for someone to is what is this about? It felt like there was a little bit of an agenda to create that woke mindset and listen, here's the thing if you you know, my my when if you are Islamic Muslim and you are in the United States, you are terrified. And I can identify with that because that's a subtext of when you grow up as a Jewish person that doesn't live in like I don't know Brooklyn or New Jersey or like I don't know La, when.

44:33 You grow up around you. I've heard that in my life, maying that what the do. You? But when you grow up you know. And this is to my my Muslim brothers and sisters, and I mean this from my heart, like I know you're scared, and I know that that fear can morph into diversion, deflection, whatever you can do to keep the attention off because you're scared, you know, And we're here to stand with you. I'm here to stand with you against all tyranny, against all hate, against all deportation, you know. And I get a little political because that's my hot button. I mean, my oldest daughter's Haitian and my husband's obviously Puerto Rican, but they're American, you know, but you know, but I mean coming from Miami, like I have a you know, America is the people who come here. That is exactly amazing.

45:33 Oh my god. It's like seriously that the country was formed based on immigration and it's always been about immigration and the diversity of its people. You know, and we all can live together in harmony and stop listening to the people trying and divide us and talk to each other instead, right right, And there's you know, I. Mean, I think that it's going to be a bumpy ride. You know, this is still bumpy, but we come out and we be a positive representative. I love what you shared about like being you know, we study the tora. You know. I always say you may be the only Tora someone meets you. May you have to be it. You're the living Torah. You have to love your neighbor as yourself.

46:20 You have to give a little corner of your field to the person who might show up and be hungry. You have to do all of those things in how you live your life. And you know, and that is just, you know, a challenge. It's a challenge and a very selfish, self centered I mean, it's a weird world right now. I mean I'll be on YouTube and I'll be watching a video. I mean mighty, and they get you with your hot button. You know you have you may have your own hot buttons. My hot button is getting older skin, you know, skincare supplements. You'll be just. Watching a video, you watch a commercial, you hit that cart button. You know, you're on your phone, Like, what the hell just happened? I didn't even know I was gonna buy it. Like, there's like a weird amount of access that's happening to our nervous systems.

47:13 And I don't think I don't think we have too much information too, because I, like you said earlier, Okay, it's not that this is a new thing, and I've said this before. It's that we just are getting bombarded with the information about it. When I was a kid, I knew about Yasser Arafat, and I know about the problems and all that, but not the extent of now where it's in your face all the freaking time, and you don't even know what to believe anyway, because anybody can be a journalist nowadays, there's no integrity in journalism. It's whoever is a voice I have somebody on X that every time they post something they put breaking news, dude, And I've said to them, dude, you're not a journalist.

47:54 You don't even work for a thing. It's not breaking news. You're just spouting your mouth off. Well, how about the fact that if you say that it's getting worse, then you negate the fact that there were KKK meetings in the White House in the twenties, right, like stop it, like what is going on? Like it's it's just these are things that have existed, and by saying it's worse than you never really it's like a diverse, it's a diversion. It's like when somebody was telling me about how you can tell somebody is written in AI. It's very much like AI. What's going on? Because like AI, when it will write a script will say in Boston, not in Chicago, but in Boston, Like it always AI always gives a negative to enforce a positive. And so I think that there's like, oh, it wasn't always that bad when in like nineteen eighty seven when we were all high on coke, Like when was it not that bad?

48:51 You know, Like it's it's very there's something there, Dean. I mean, we'll have to explore it again because. There's something there we are running at time, but you definitely have to explore it again because I like that whole concept there, and that's definitely the Rabbi Jenny experience. I was looking for a thanks so now before we go, because I'm going to probably run a little late because it's just good stuff. But why don't you tell everybody how they can reach out to you and all about you know, give your elevator speech of all that you do to help people and why they should reach out to you. Well, I mean, you can reach out to me through my website, the Healing Rabbi dot com and it be the Healing Rabbi at Gmail. I don't think that's weird to put that out there. I do trauma work. I do if you're struggling with spiritual we do. I do a lot of work with spiritual trauma if you and I only see a couple of clients. But I'm also teaching, which is really exciting at starting live teaching of the Medicine Wheel. So if you felt called to be a Schmick practitioner, we're going to be starting our first group and I'm in the Ozarks House Springs, Missouri. Now can you imagine how the hell did I get air Dane?

50:01 And we're going to start in the South in October. If you're interested, please reach out, and of course, if you're ever struggling with substance use issues, which is my primary passion. We're here where Stepping Stones were, fully nonprofit. We are in Illinois, and we take Medicaid and we have on our mission and purpose that we do not let somebody's ability pay keep you out of treatment. And we're an amazing program. So if you ever do a show on substance use, I'd love to talk to you about that too. Well, definitely have to do one about that, And there's definite specific reasons I would want to because I've been surrounded by addicts my whole life. They're they're like my crowd, and I'm not one of them. I'm the designated no person.

50:48 I'm like no so and so, no so so right, But you know, I think people need the kind of help that you're giving. I'm just real quick. Before the end the show, you know, I'll get vulnerable. You probably don't even know this because I don't think we talked about but a couple of years ago, my grandson, you know, he passed away from addiction from it at fifteen. Heroin that's my yeah. Well, well you know what I think you and I have been talking about, Well, what are we going to do together? What are we going to create together? I think that this is the beginning of something. I'm feeling it. I'm feeling it on June third, but it is my passion I've lost. I'm so sorry about your grandson. I've lost so many young, bright, beautiful, wonderful young people and really trying to get in their body. They were trying to experience life. They were trying to feel something, and I truly believe that in my heart, and so I remain really in their honor passionate about trying to give the kind of treatment that they that will will help them.

51:55 And it's not always easy in today's western medicine world. No it's not. I'm a big believer in what you do, and I thank you for being here. We'll have to do some more, for sure. Absolutely, thanks for being on the Adventures of pipe Man right here in W four c Y Radio, and I ran I had time to say what I was going to say, so I'm going to do it really really quick. And if you go to pipe Man Radio on all socials, we are giving away ticket festival tickets to h Laddered in Life and Aftershock coming up in the fall. And we also I just did coverage at Death Angel Violence Insight show here in Fort Lauride at one of my favorite venues at the Culture Room. I also did coverage a Joey Roll right here down the street at the Amphitheater in West Palm Beach, who is a friend of mine. I interviewed him long before he even got bit as big as he did. And I'm leaving on the pipe Man Radio tour tomorrow, heading to Milwaukee. Close to you, Yeah, come visit.

52:54 Let's go to breakfast call me you. Come to me. Are you close to Milwaukee? Are you going to be two hours? Yeah? So that's difficult. So I'm gonna be doing the Milwaukee Metal Festival, which is really killer, and then I leave from there to the UK to cover Download Festival and uh, keep checking out my socials for the rest of the Pipemin Radio tour and we will be back again soon. Thanks a lot, Rabbi Jenny for the experience. It's Shirley Bay Adventure one roll it. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipeline.

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