Aug. 2, 2026

Banjo, Violin, and Metalheads: Wüstenberg Redefines Festival Music at Wacken

Banjo, Violin, and Metalheads: Wüstenberg Redefines Festival Music at Wacken
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The conversation focused on Wüstenberg's unique blend of musical influences and their experience performing at Wacken Open Air. The discussion explored band member backgrounds, genre definitions, the challenges and joys of live performance, and the importance of breaking out of musical boxes. Stories about musical upbringings, cross-genre influences, and festival adventures rounded out a lively and candid episode. The group also touched on the impact of social media, fan engagement, and the changing landscape of live music.Main Topics Covered

  • The pronunciation and meaning behind the band name "Wüstenberg" and its international implications (00:24)
  • Navigating genre identity and the resistance to being boxed in (06:33)
  • Musical backgrounds of band members, from classical to metal to folk traditions (04:08, 05:04, 20:08)
  • The story of how the band formed and its recruitment process (04:08)
  • Experiences at Wacken festival, including guerrilla marketing and stage performances (25:00)
  • Blending influences: Irish music, metal, classical, and blues-rock influences (07:06)
  • The emotional and therapeutic importance of music in the lives of the band members (28:42)
  • Adventures with instruments—banjo shredding, violin tales, and gear mishaps (03:04, 23:07)
  • Language, cultural identity, and humor within the band (15:07, 17:48)
  • Music industry challenges: social media, algorithms, and fan connection (41:16)
  • The significance of live music and supporting local musicians (43:07)
Key Discussions & Stories
  • Pronunciation Problems:
    One concept discussed was the complexity of spelling and pronouncing "Wüstenberg" for international fans and event organizers, including the use of the German umlaut and its effect on branding (00:55).
  • Genre Fluidity:
    A key theme that emerged was the struggle and resistance to fit into genre boxes. The group described themselves as “folk rock” for convenience, but emphasized their individuality and broad influences: “Everyone puts their DNA in it, and it is what it is in the end, and it's up to others to decide what they think where to put it” (09:48).
  • Recruitment & Chemistry:
    The discussion explored how the band came together through friendships, musical connections, and referrals via a vocal coach, with the lead songwriter seeking new creative avenues (04:08).
  • Instrument Crossovers:
    Several points were raised, including the story of how a self-described metalhead adopted the banjo, blending Irish traditional music with rock techniques and jokes about turning down offers from the Dropkick Murphys for this band (05:07).
  • Festival Highlights:
    The band recounted their unique guerrilla marketing tactics at Wacken—playing music on a cart to rally attendees for their early set—and expressed joy at drawing a lively crowd as a non-metal band on a mostly metal bill (25:00).
  • Personal Journeys in Music:
    Each band member shared their own musical origin story, highlighting moments when they knew music was their calling—from coping with loss through song, to choosing music over professional careers, to being driven by an irresistible, soul-deep need to play (28:46).
  • Stage Mishaps and Metal Attitude:
    Stories of onstage and festival misadventures included a classical violin striking concrete during a performance—deemed “very metal”—and good-natured ribbing about drinking habits (23:42, 38:36).
  • Fan Connection & Social Media:
    The group discussed the limitations of algorithms and the importance of direct connection via their newsletter and live performances, encouraging fans to support bands by attending shows and buying merch (41:16).
Notable Quotes
  • “I think we're like a Swiss knife, you know. You can have us on mainstream festivals, you can have us on metal festivals, and we will leave our mark” (09:02)
  • “I don't know one metalhead that only likes metal. Not one.” (13:17)
  • “Music's a transfer of emotion, and when I see bands that you, you can tell they're not into it up there, how are you going to be into it?” (27:16)
  • “It's an absolute necessity to pick up her violin and to play. It nurtures her soul.” (35:54)
  • “Cherish all the differences, cherish all the influences that could inspire you.” (14:25)
  • “Let's stay connected because that's, I think, a very human thing to do.” (43:24)
Resources & Links Mentioned
  • Find Wüstenberg Online:
    • Spelling in international platforms: WUESTENBERG_music
    • Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, YouTube – Search: “Wüstenberg” or “WUESTENBERG” (40:32)
    • Band newsletter (direct sign-up recommended for latest updates)
  • Upcoming Gigs:
    • Next show: Festival in the Azores, Portugal (Santa Maria island) (41:46)
  • Festival References:
    • Wacken Open Air – Germany
    • Renaissance and Celtic Festivals
    • Mention of Hellfest (France) (15:21)
  • Artist References:
    • Lindsay Stirling
    • Motörhead
    • Dropkick Murphys
    • Jethro Tull/Ian Anderson
    • Metallica
    • AC/DC, The Dubliners, Larkin Poe (07:32)
  • Beer Discussion:
    • Praise for German beer (Spaten), disparagement of Budweiser (39:35)


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Hi you havent ruee wow for you your.

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This is the pipe man here on the Venturance pipe

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Man W four C Y radio and I'm here with

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you're here with Wustenberg. I have never said it like that,

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and I do always have band say their band name,

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because my biggest fear is pronouncing it wrong. Yeah, especially

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if it's an American band.

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But can you repeat it because I want to know

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how it sounds if you say.

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It Wustenberg Utstenberg. Yes, yes, yes, closing up very nave.

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You did it. Yeah.

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You know we have the two dots on the U

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like monthly Crue has it. Yes, yes, yeah, the umlaut

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we say in German. Yeah, you know, we figured it

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might be a problem for the international gigs because everyone

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is like on the keyboard like fucking hill, I don't

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have the U with a two dots on it, and

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they have to copy it and paste it. So it's

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it's gonna be Wolstenberg in the international area.

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I tell them to just do what I've done at

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different countries. Change your keyboard to the keyboard of that country.

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You see, You're good, right, because I had that problem

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at first too. I'm like, oh wait, let me do this,

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and you know what, I do like the fact that

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you turned us around for the video because having the

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background of the anniversary of VAK in twenty twenty six. Yeah,

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I do have to say something. I hope they don't

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get pissed at me. But I didn't interview them anyway,

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so who cares. I heard def Leppard say whacken wackon.

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If you're gonna come to a festival and another country,

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you might want to study how to say it.

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Just say it, especially if it's a cuss word in

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your own language.

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You know it's whack I love it. So besides being German,

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how did you end up here at Vakin? Oh?

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I don't know why the hell am I might answer,

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I don't really know, because especially we don't really play metal.

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I'm the only one who looks and listens to metal.

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I think it might have to do with our music, hopefully,

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And yeah, I think it might have been connections from

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the past or something. But no, no, my wish is

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that it's just our music because they wanted us.

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Or maybe it's they looked at you only and they're like, oh,

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they're a metal band, let's bring them on.

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Yeah, yeah, Yeah. The shred and benjo. That's just the

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sole reason.

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I do love that though. Okay, thank you says I love.

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I do love a band Joe, and that you can

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shred on a banjo. That's fucking badass.

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And you know he has a mean thunderstruck going on

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his banjo.

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Nice. I can place it in a though.

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I have no B string. I have no B string

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on it.

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Were you playing last night out by the fire, because

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they did have like Celtic stuff going on.

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It wasn't wasn't a snoow.

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I know it wasn't you, but you know, I was

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thinking to myself, like, this is really cool. Two of

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my favorite things in one festival. Because I'm a virgin

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the Vadkan. This is my first year in Vodkan. I

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love the Renaissance Festival and Celtic festivals and I love metal.

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So I come here and I get both. Have to

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go to two separate places and now and now, right

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down the street from me, there's a bluegrass band, so

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I get my banjo here too. How did this band

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all come about? And why did you recruit a metalhead? Yeah?

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I think Frantz, our lead singer who writes all the

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songs here. He wanted to reinvent his own style and

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his new music music, and he kind of like needed

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new musicians for it. So he looked around, asked all

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the friends that he had and his vocal vocal coach,

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and the rest is history.

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Nice.

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You have to say that fans knew at least three

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of us in advance, and we all asked around between

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friends and family and so, do you know anybody who

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could play in this band? And so yeah, but he

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did a fantastic job in picking out the persons who

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actually ended up in the band, because I love them all.

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They're all great human beings and great musicians.

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Keep the mic for a se Yeah, I want to

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answer your question, how does a metal head get into banjo?

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Well, well, I first came to guns n' rolls, Smotahead

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and all this stuff through my brother and then my

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parents listened to the dublin Us since the sixties and

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they brought me to that. And when I decided to

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play Irish music myself, I needed something that I could

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play with the same technique that I did on the

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on the electric guitar, so I chose the benjo and

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the rest is history.

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And so I don't know, maybe I'm making this up,

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but I kind of thought maybe drop Kip Murphy's why

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do in the band? And he turned them down so

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you could join this band.

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Absolutely, yes, yes, this was more promising.

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So since you're not metal, how would you describe your

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music as an artist? I asked of a metal band too,

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because there's so many genres and sub genres and micro

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genres that it's ridiculous already, like each genre has its

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own band. You know, how do you describe your music

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as general as artists? Because I hate artists being boxed

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into oh, we're this, we're metal, we're punk, we're pop,

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we're blah blah blah, because to me, an artist is

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an artist, and artists will experiment in all kinds of music.

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In my opinion, I think the best box you could

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put us in, if you wanted to put us into

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a box, it would be folk rock, I guess because

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of the electric guitars, because of the folk instruments. But

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what I really love about the music of Ustenberg is

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I think you can kind of hear our individual DNAs

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on record and on the stage because Bea and Cut

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and Zemon Well, they're incredible musicians. In the Irish tread

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tread style. And if you ever hear Cut playing the

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flute or be playing the fiddle, it's insane. You know,

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it's like you're sitting there and you feel like you're

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in County Mayo or wherever it's it's brilliant.

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And then I think more on.

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This side of the room, you have the the Motohead guys,

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and I love blues rock for instance. Fans and I

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we share love for bands like Luck and Poe, you

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know a little bit.

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Of rock, and I inver viewed them when they before

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they got bit but I love them. Yeah, They're amazing.

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They're insane. They're absolutely insane, great idols of ours, and

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I think if you really listen carefully you can hear

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a lot of that going on in the Wustenberg stuff.

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I want to even marry one of them, but she

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married Tyler and that as all.

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Just one thing.

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We've got a rearrange going on from classic so our

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influences and what we listen to is from classical music

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to death metal all the way through and everything in between. Funds,

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although he writes all the songs, is very good at

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letting all the influences into the music and let it,

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just letting it flow and then saying stop at the

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right moment.

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And all props to funds. I think he's very very

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good at playing to our strengths, so he also kind

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of I sometimes feel like when you bring the songs

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to a rehearsal or something, there's a very specific and

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this part is especially tailored for you.

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Nice and he actually looks like the Irish one, you know.

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But speaking of boxes, I try to write the band

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description and I thought, okay, I don't want.

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To be pressed into a box.

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But then again, everyone keeps asking about boxes and where

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to put us, and I think we're like a like

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a like a Swiss knife.

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You know, you can have us mainstream festivals.

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You can have us on metal festivals, and we will

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leave our mark on the festivals with our music. But

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you know, they really don't know where to put us.

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And I like that because there is a Celtic spark

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in it. But it's only a spark. It's not an

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Irish band, you know, right. And although I like the

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caps because I don't have much hair, so it's I know,

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it's a radio so you know, imagine a guy with

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imagine the metal head has long hair and imagine the

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singer has little hair and a cap on it to

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you know, protect the little hair, right, And yeah, you know,

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I think we do music we love. Everyone puts their

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DNA in it and it is what it is in

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the end, and it's up to others to decide what

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they think where to put it, because I think everyone

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on a festival will put it in a different box.

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Some people will say it's so emotional for me, and

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some others will say, man, that.

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Was a loud band.

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They were so energetic, and you know it depends yeah, yeah,

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maybe not on Vacan, but on other festivals we're the

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loudest band, you know, So it depends on the on

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the person. And I love that. I love that there's

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no boundary and you know, it's I think it's a

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sign of the times that boundaries should be less. There

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is so much mix up and how people dress. You know,

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have you looked around Maybe not on Waking.

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Because they're all in black T shirts, fuck it, you know,

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but festival to say that, yeah, but in the world,

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you know, in the world, people mix up like they

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want to mix up things.

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People listen to the Beatles.

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And to Guta Lacks they just played, and you know,

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I have all this penises, blow up penises.

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You know, it's there's a lot of bands using blow

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up penises. What is that all about.

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I can't see why they are doing it because it's tiktokable.

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That's true. Like and Guard they have four penises. What no,

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only one? Only blow has four pences. He's the king penis.

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So it took us five minutes to go to penises.

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Well he started it like, I'm going to take your lead,

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But do you have to like beep it out in

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the US? No, fuck the US, Yes, don't beep it.

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We won't. We're not beeping ship. But you know what

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I love about what you're saying too is I've been

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saying this for a while. I'm an old school metal head.

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But metal when in the eighties, the bands didn't sound

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the same because there aren't all these micro and subgenres.

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I mean, really, Motorhead is rock and roll, you know,

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but we put it into metal. Okay, and it is metal,

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but it's really rock and roll. And even Lem always said,

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it's just all rock and roll. And that's the point,

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Like we don't have to separate and divide everybody. The

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governments are doing enough of that, we don't need to

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do it too. And then here's the thing. Like in metal,

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and you'll probably agree with this. Nowadays, it's almost like

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they're using an algebraic equation to make their music. There's

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this formula, so if your metalcore, it must sound like this,

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and then all the bands end up sounding exactly the same.

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And you know, when I was young, people say, oh,

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these two bad sounds, saying like, no, they don't. Now

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if they say that, I'm like, yeah, I can't tell

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the difference, you know. And so I love the blending

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of genres because let's face it, I don't know whether

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they admit or not. I don't know one metal head

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that only likes metal, not one, you know. And like,

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you're talking about classical and death metal. Okay, so first

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of all, and death metal even more so. But metal

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is a derivative of classical music and death metal even

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more so. And like the musicianship and death metal like

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it's insane. But the average person doesn't think of it

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that way because why they think it's loud and it's

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just noise. But if you sat there and just listen

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to the intricacies underneath, you would hear it, because I'll

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listen to a death metal band and I'll just hear

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like the underneath bar and go, fuck, these guys are

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great musicians. But if you're just looking at the surface,

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just like anything, you're not gonna get that. Just like

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if you look at the surface of people, of where

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they're from, what their skin color is, or sexual orientation,

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why you just get to know the person instead of

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the label you want to put on them. Same with music.

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So no label for your band.

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Fuck that I think of well greatly put in words,

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I think of it that way. Cherish all the difference, differences,

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cherish all the influences that could inspire you exactly.

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It's interesting because I'm the bass player in this band

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and on this festival alone, where so many of my

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hero bass players from when I grew up. And would

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I go to a pop festival and find so many

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of the artists that are really that taught.

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Me my chops? I don't think so. So yeah, he's

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so right there you go. Let's let the lay have

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some time here. The first thing I want to talk

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to you about cat is metalla cat uh.

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Yeah, Well, so I'm half French, same as beer and.

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And we want French in the interview too. I got

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first too, Like when I was talking to you, I was, oh,

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French says, we're talking hell Fest. So it's like we

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could do this as a French German. It's kind of

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like if we were in Belgium, we could just have

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all the languages.

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Never matter.

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So yeah, I've got a French name, which is it's

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spelled like the English. Catherine said. Yeah, so in Germany

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everybody says Katerino and I was so upset with that.

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So yeah, people just started calling me kat as a

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short form, and the Irish people cat. So I found

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this T shirt and look good, well this is my

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T shirt.

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I mean it's perfect and even with the song nothing

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else meals. It's brilliant. So somebody told me that, you know,

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Ian Anderson of Jeff rot Al wanted to join the band,

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but these people here said you were better. So that's

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why you're in the band at the Flu for people

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that don't know, at the Flu, Yeah at the Flu.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, got it. Yeah, I'm playing the piano.

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Here, So who's the floutest. Didn't somebody say that? That's

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what Army said. She's a brilliant floutest. But she is

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in the band for organ and piano, So why aren't

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you bringing in the flute with the po and the organ,

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like you could just come you can use your feet

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on the piano. So that's that's where I got. When

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we're talking in the beginning and he said flowtest, I thought, oh,

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well she's the floutest. Let's go there.

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Well, obviously for transportation issues, we can't transport a flout

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it's a flute.

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It's too you know, it's too big. Yeah, it is

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pretty big. Yeah. I especially like how you said the

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flow Yeah, because he.

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Said floutest, and I thought, is this the word for

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someone who plays the flute?

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Yes, yes, it might be, so i'm it is. See

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there was that language barrier right there. Don't feel bad.

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Most Americans don't know either. Okay, so tell us how

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you came to the band, and you know what brought

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you to the piano and oregon and the flute, since

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you play that anyway, even though you know you leave

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that out of the band.

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Okay, Well, the way I started playing the flute is

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again as I'm how French. At home, I had the

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opportunity to listen to Celtic French, Irishish music from side

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and like typical German schlager from my mom's side, that choice.

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Was not difficult, so nice.

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Yeah, I picked up My dad used to play the guitar,

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so he took me to all the Irish sessions around

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and I picked up the flute at some point.

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Yeah.

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Then, well, the job I learned. I'm a trained piano maker,

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so obviously I had to play a little bit of piano.

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So I started playing the piano to do the job.

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And but yeah, that's kind of fun. So in the

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first band I played in, Yep.

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She learned it just for the job, judge, but she

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became increasingly good.

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Also, sorry, piano maker is an understatement, because she learned

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at Steinway.

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WHOA, well, that's why you got her in the band.

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And I'm playing an electrical piano now.

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Yeah, but yeah, so that's how I came to the piano.

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And then Zeemon and I we are friends for quite

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a long time by now, and it's ten years, I guess. Yeah,

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And in the end it was Zeemon talking to friends.

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I don't know how exactly this went on. Actually, Okay,

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so Zeemon was asked if you knew somebody who plays

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the piano and yeah, yeah, so my name came in

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and I'm so so thankful that I ended up in

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this band.

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Oh I love that. And you have to see the

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expression on her face that was like truly she's gotten

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emotional over it. I love that. Let's go to you. Okay,

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so my question first question for you is so, yeah,

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I also heard that Linn he's Stirling. She applied for

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the band and they're like, no, you're not good enough.

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We need her, you.

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Know, Frisia Lindsay Stlier. As it comes as the classes music,

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yeah have Midnoonian classes music, gig gliand on have done. Yeah,

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side music, Gland and Glove, Pleasure, A Kindness, I annoy

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you and Yesdia music from France. It's not man guns

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and veiled formation rock as we have any might a

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woman of fucking Spieler with mana.

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You know if I can't, because you know what I

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was waiting for the only word I would understand, schiskoff,

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and it was nowhere in there. So I'll give it

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my best.

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Bia started out playing the violin at nine years old,

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and she started playing classical music and then later on

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she discovered this whole world of Irish music, and that

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really turned her head and she loved playing it. And

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now with Wustenbach, the thing is that it's a whole

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new world again and she never would have imagined playing

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fucking off all places with her violin, and she really

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enjoys it.

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And she also forgot what the question was. I know,

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I do know. I caught that she brought up Lindsay

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Sterling a couple of times. She probably didn't even know

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what I was saying. Okay, so maybe somebody translated to

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her what I said. And I'll say it again that

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Lindsay Sterling applied to be in the band and they

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said you're you're not good enough and she had to

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be in the band.

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Yeah, yeah, not to if I can have a few

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better feeling that as a Lindsay Sterling macho.

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Yeah, let me guess, she just said, as a Lindsay

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Sterling fan. Did I get that right? No? Probably not.

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That's what it sounds like to me.

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I'll give it my best, she just said, of course,

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because I'm better than her.

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I love that. So I was right. I wasn't right

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about the translation, but I was right about what I

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said in English.

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To be fair, to be fair, put it in the

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right light. She then said, I love what she does.

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So I was close. I was kind of close. It

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did sound like it was some kind of thing that

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was complimenting Lindsey Sterling. That's what I was picking up.

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You know, what do you have to know about Bea

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is she?

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She said she didn't imagine to be ending up on

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button someday, and she did obviously. And we did a

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little like a guerrilla marketing, you know event, because we

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went around the campground and played our music a little card.

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We had like a like a pa on there and

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you know, Bea plays her violin and it's a very fancy, nice,

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beautiful old violin. Yeah, but Bea she she uses it

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as an you know, it's a thing to use and

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she hit the concrete with it while driving the card.

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Yeah, because she was just playing.

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She's all over the place, you know, sucking up all

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the you know, information and the impressions. And so this

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is like Bea on vacan is like concrete against classical music.

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Oh that was very metal. That was very had a

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metal thing to do and the violence still works. Say, oh,

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well there you go. And she said, what whatever good

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attitude because what are you're gonna do? Yeah, that's a

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metal attitude, I guess. So now, how did the valking

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thing come about? Did you not medal?

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Like?

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How did they invite you to play here at Varkin?

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So, as Simon said, we we in the end, we

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don't know the the exactly, you know, but.

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We hope it's because of a music.

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I've played Vacking with a different band before that was

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like an Irish folk punk band and we played it

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a couple of times and then this new project happened,

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and yeah, I think it's it's still a little miracle

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for us because it's like the the gods of rock,

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you know, we're you know, saying okay, let's see if

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this band still got it or you can use them

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for a festival like this. And yeah, we were the

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first band on the Uckinger stage. So twelve o'clock the

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infield was opened like half an hour before, and as

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I said, we had this little Gerillia you know event

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to playing our music and telling everybody you know, put

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your alarm clock on eleven thirty and get the fuck up.

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You can you know, you can't come drunk. It's no

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problem for us, but be there at twelve o'clock high noon,

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you know, and they showed all up. They all were there.

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They had we had crowdsurfers, we had a circle pit.

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It was just amazing. And yeah, so I think we

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work here. It's good luck in the end.

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And here's what I'll say. First of all, it's like,

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that's the amazing thing about Vocking is that you could

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play on the third day early and get a crowd

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like that and not even be metal. You know.

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We had some guys share a story of our gig

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and he said, these are the surprises of Waking, and

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that's a pretty I.

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Think, Oh it's okay, yeah, we'll kick them out. Well,

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I will say too that maybe they brought you back

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because they liked you and your other band. They needed

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a little Irish flair and you're German and so it's like, okay,

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we'll add the French into so we could get people

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not to go help est and come to Vaking. So

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there's the recipe. Actually, the best recipe is how good

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you are. And the point is, like I said before,

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I don't think it matters what genre you play. If

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you're a great musician and you're entertaining the people and

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having fun, that's all that counts.

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Well, we just had a discussion about how much show

431
00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:47.200
does A does A does a gig?

432
00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:47.440
Need?

433
00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:52.119
You know, And if your musicianship, you know, holds onto

434
00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:55.240
to keeping the crowd engaged, then you don't need as

435
00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:55.839
much show.

436
00:26:56.319 --> 00:26:58.599
Yes, maybe, but show still is okay.

437
00:26:59.319 --> 00:27:04.119
Obviously, what's really important in my experience at watching shows,

438
00:27:04.119 --> 00:27:06.720
but also what people that watched our shows told me

439
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:10.359
is as long as the crowd sees that the musicians

440
00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:13.160
have fun in what they're doing, it doesn't really matter

441
00:27:13.160 --> 00:27:14.599
how much entertainment you put in there.

442
00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:15.599
That's the entertainment.

443
00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:19.640
Music's a transfer of emotion. And when I see bands

444
00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:23.680
that you can tell they're not into it up there,

445
00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:26.039
how are you going to be into it? But when

446
00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:28.200
the band like one of the things I noticed is

447
00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:31.359
when musicians are up there smiling the whole time like

448
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:36.160
they just won the lottery, and I'm like, man, this

449
00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:41.680
is fun. And so to your point, yes, absolutely, if

450
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:46.720
you're not having fun in this industry, wrong industry, because

451
00:27:46.759 --> 00:27:51.200
most of it sucks, okay, you gotta have fun, you know.

452
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:55.160
And if you're playing music and you're not having fun,

453
00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:58.960
you need to change gears because music should be one

454
00:27:59.079 --> 00:28:04.200
hundred percent. You're not an accountant, okay, you're a musician.

455
00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:06.799
And I also think you shouldn't be in a box

456
00:28:06.839 --> 00:28:10.160
as a musician. As you grow and evolve and get

457
00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:13.880
better at your craft, you want to experiment and that

458
00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:19.440
means going outside your box. And then that's what keeps

459
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:22.880
you happy and having fun and excited. Because if you're

460
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:25.759
doing the same thing for ten years, totally the same,

461
00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:32.920
who wouldn't be bored. So what was that moment for

462
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:37.200
all of you that you absolutely knew you had no

463
00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:45.160
other choice but to do music. Yeah, we'll just go

464
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:46.079
down the line.

465
00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:51.279
Yeah, Well, I learned at the university. I'm an architect,

466
00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:55.759
and I used to be really divided in my heart.

467
00:28:56.960 --> 00:28:57.559
Who am I? No?

468
00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:02.480
Am I an engineer, an architect at least an artist

469
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:03.920
in my own ride?

470
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:05.519
Or am I a bass player?

471
00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:10.440
And on Fridays I was going for shows and I

472
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:13.640
really felt like an architect, and I couldn't go on

473
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:18.000
stage until Sunday, when I really felt like I could

474
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:19.920
never attend university again.

475
00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:21.759
So I was so divided.

476
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:26.920
And after that really nice university time, I decided to

477
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:30.920
be a full time musician because that was the moment,

478
00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:36.079
and the employer I was working for called me and

479
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:40.480
in the tour bus and he said, Alex, you gotta

480
00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:43.079
tell me who are you? Are you an architect or

481
00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:45.799
a musician? You need to tell me now because this

482
00:29:46.039 --> 00:29:51.440
really stinks. And I said, well, I'm a musician. And

483
00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:54.640
the whole tour bus was cheering, and next to me,

484
00:29:54.880 --> 00:29:58.960
my wife was saying, Okay, now he just lost his job,

485
00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:03.839
his daytime job, and what's gonna happen now?

486
00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:09.680
But it worked out. It's awesome. Exactly, it worked out,

487
00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:10.480
and you're a.

488
00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:18.279
Vaking I'm fairly sorry for bringing in the deep shit now, brought.

489
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:20.160
The decision because you're the metalhead of the group.

490
00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:24.799
Absolutely, yeah, that's all the emotion we get. When I

491
00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:28.440
was about sixteen years old, when my granddad died and

492
00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:31.759
I came home from school and my mother told me

493
00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:34.160
when I when I got into a home, and the

494
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:36.799
first thing I did was go into my room and

495
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:42.000
play blod Brothers by Room Maiden, just to somehow, yeah,

496
00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:45.200
cope with it. And after that I knew, Okay, maybe

497
00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:46.960
music is what keeps you alive.

498
00:30:47.839 --> 00:30:50.519
There it is. I mus against the best therapy for you,

499
00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:53.079
the artists, and for me the listener. There you go.

500
00:30:56.079 --> 00:30:59.559
I'm having a real hard time pointing my finger at

501
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:03.880
this one moment because I grew up in a family

502
00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:09.119
where everyone always played music all of the time. My

503
00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:13.720
granddad was a jazz trumpet player, my mother was a

504
00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:17.480
classical clarinet teacher. My sister was playing the piano, my

505
00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:21.359
father was playing the piano and the French horn, and

506
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:26.839
I pretty soon started asking for a violin, very much,

507
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:30.839
not to the amusement of my parents. You know, there

508
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:35.039
are not as not many instruments that suck as much

509
00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:40.319
when you can't play them as a kid. And yeah,

510
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:43.279
from then on, I guess I just never really stopped.

511
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:47.799
And then at some point I thought that ac DC

512
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:51.240
was cooler than Vivaldi, and so I started playing the

513
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:55.599
electric guitar. And yeah, it's pretty fun.

514
00:31:56.799 --> 00:31:59.440
I think too. You guys should write a song with

515
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:02.400
a French born in it. Bring that to friendship, brilliant.

516
00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:03.359
I have to ask my dad.

517
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:08.440
But yeah, well, first of all, good question.

518
00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:10.359
I think.

519
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:13.200
You know, when you look at at life in general,

520
00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:15.519
what do you want to experience in life?

521
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:18.200
You know, is it about your house, your car, what

522
00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:19.960
you what you work, what you achieve.

523
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:24.039
Obviously, it's not, although everyone you know, part of the

524
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:26.319
day thinks it is, and you know it's in all

525
00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:31.680
the treadmill And in the end, I think it's most

526
00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:35.759
of all being moved, being, you know, being emotional, being

527
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:38.759
in life, being you know, engaged in something like with

528
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:43.480
all your heart, and forget about all the outer appearance, appearance,

529
00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:48.079
forget about everything that's so much in your mind.

530
00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:50.960
And I think music is one of the best things.

531
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:56.480
To move people to be, to be moved and to

532
00:32:56.599 --> 00:33:01.119
forget yourself and be like like in this spiritual state

533
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:04.920
of just being nothing else. And you know, it's a

534
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:08.960
rare moment, and that makes it so worthy that it's

535
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:11.720
so rare, and you can achieve it in different things

536
00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:14.000
than music, but music is one hell of a thing

537
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:18.880
to get those rare moments of just being with everything

538
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:22.119
that is so Yeah nice, I love it.

539
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:27.000
Yeah, I guess I don't really have that one moment

540
00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:32.319
as well. When I finished school, my dad was kind

541
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:35.960
of not very happy that I started an apprenticeship instead

542
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:38.799
of going to university, but still I had the job

543
00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:40.799
at Steinway, and it was clear for me that this

544
00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:47.119
is what I'm going to do. Yeah, I damaged my

545
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:52.680
wrist during COVID, and that led to me not being

546
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:56.440
able to be a full time piano maker. As a hobby,

547
00:33:56.519 --> 00:34:02.440
I started doing sound engineering for several bands, which is

548
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:07.079
kind of being the plus one musician. So as a

549
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:10.679
sound engineer you also form and you decide what the

550
00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:14.320
listener gets to listen to. Yes, so it's kind of

551
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:18.000
being a musician. But I always felt it's not enough

552
00:34:18.039 --> 00:34:20.400
of being a musician, so I wanted to be on

553
00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:24.960
the other side as well. Yeah, and I worked for that.

554
00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:31.840
I rehearsed, I got lessons and tried to get better basically,

555
00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:36.320
and yeah, then at some point there came a France

556
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:40.559
So yeah, not really the one point, but I'm so

557
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:41.760
glad it turned out like that.

558
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:48.400
So more like the whole journey basically, And so your rest,

559
00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:52.840
that's a fact you're piano playing, not how good you are,

560
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:55.000
but how you feel when you're playing.

561
00:34:56.920 --> 00:35:02.119
Once I start playing, it's always gone love it again.

562
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:10.960
The best man's in music, he.

563
00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:15.199
Can fall into Shrime Franza fil make his music. It's

564
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:21.519
come from here that rang music to mascribe.

565
00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:22.280
Sunday and on.

566
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:27.920
Yeah, It's I'm for Eskipzoo feel the momentum, which thinks

567
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:30.599
that's my guy gained the hand name on Spear and

568
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:36.400
Upset Classical, so that rock or I'm for was the

569
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:40.840
other componier and that's is Skipto. Film Momentum was Fally

570
00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:46.519
who has come can be for to sign on Levendi

571
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:51.639
on Slavendix to film on the MOMENTU sign and for you.

572
00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:55.320
Know, yeah, I'd like to translate. She says, it's an

573
00:35:55.960 --> 00:36:00.920
absolute necessity to pick up her violin and to it

574
00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:06.079
nurtures her soul and whatever kind of music it's.

575
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:11.079
She she's desperate to do it, to live in the moment,

576
00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:12.800
to feel the moment at all.

577
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:18.039
And I can, I can so relate because I already

578
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:20.920
knew she's an amazing and stunning.

579
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:22.840
Violinist.

580
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:29.000
And then I saw her play on after after a show.

581
00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:32.880
It was in an Irish pub and she played together

582
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:36.800
with the other guys, and it was a moment that

583
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:41.039
was a little bit it was like in heaven for

584
00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:46.599
me to just look at her having her eyes closed.

585
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:49.519
She was stairy eyes. What what did I say?

586
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:54.480
I said something I don't know, but anyways, it was

587
00:36:55.519 --> 00:37:00.599
stunning to see her stairy eyed or the eyes close whatever.

588
00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:04.480
And then and then to hear what she plays, because

589
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:08.159
I didn't really know that a violin would be able

590
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:09.559
to to sound like this.

591
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:13.440
Okay, now he's gonna give the translation. What happened, right,

592
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:13.639
you know?

593
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:14.639
I don't I don't really know.

594
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:16.960
I just have to shoot in because the next day

595
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:20.960
he told her just what he said right now, and

596
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:24.159
her answer, what makes us so sympathetic as a human being?

597
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:24.960
Her answer was.

598
00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:26.119
Really fucked up.

599
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:32.119
Also when he just said those beautiful words and it

600
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:35.199
was like in heaven and everything, be I just commented,

601
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:36.119
I was ship faced.

602
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:46.320
Maybe that's why she fucked up good possibility, but the

603
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:51.440
audience would never know. That's the point. How many times

604
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.199
have all of you fucked up? You know, like every

605
00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:56.400
artist on the face of the earth, And usually the

606
00:37:56.480 --> 00:37:59.760
aiens starts to know because why artists are their own worst.

607
00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:06.519
But in all seriousness, Bear started her statement with saying,

608
00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:09.840
for her music is something that comes from a different place.

609
00:38:11.119 --> 00:38:13.199
And I really can relate to what Alex just said,

610
00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:16.679
because when you look at be are playing those tunes,

611
00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:21.039
it looked like it looks like she's channeling something from

612
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:23.480
somewhere and you have no idea where that's coming from,

613
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:25.239
but it's it's pretty great.

614
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:25.840
To watch.

615
00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:30.800
You just hope it's a good place.

616
00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:35.000
And she's not too fucked up.

617
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:39.519
Yeah, but that's also fun. The great thing is that

618
00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:44.639
they are always always says, I'm not drinking at all,

619
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:50.239
and then and then you know, every gig, after every gig,

620
00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:54.000
she's taking a beer, and well, usually I'm never drinking.

621
00:38:57.159 --> 00:38:58.599
But you know that's fun.

622
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:03.239
That's fun for sure. Like and how can you be

623
00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:07.639
even European, much less picking a country and not drink.

624
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:13.039
Just it works, but it's hot, it's it's a requirement.

625
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:18.920
I think what I'm really confused about is we're in Germany.

626
00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:23.639
We're in the VIP area outside this pres tent, and

627
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:25.840
we have Anheuser Busch Budweiser.

628
00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:30.039
What that's actually one place where you could get German beer.

629
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:31.079
I'll show you afterwards.

630
00:39:31.639 --> 00:39:34.079
And it has a very beautiful German names coach Batten.

631
00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:38.199
I somebody had me tastes that last night, and I

632
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:41.559
don't even like beer. That beer was good, It's pretty good.

633
00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:42.920
It's pretty Budweiser.

634
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:43.199
To me.

635
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:47.000
It tastes like I took a piss and pissed in

636
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:50.239
the in the beer and now I'm drinking it.

637
00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:53.000
So the real thing is you don't like American beer,

638
00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:53.480
but you do.

639
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:59.079
Like re beer. I like, I like very few. That

640
00:39:59.320 --> 00:40:02.320
was real beer. I don't like like in the UK too.

641
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:05.360
I don't like the dark beer. I was married to

642
00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:08.320
a British girl and she had me taste a snake

643
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:12.840
bite and I was like, that's the nastiest ship I

644
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:14.719
ever tasted in my life. I don't know how you

645
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:19.840
drink that. Yeah, there's the reason for that name, right exactly.

646
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:23.440
So tell everybody how they can reach out to you.

647
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:27.880
Connect on socials, check out your music, and most importantly,

648
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:30.639
buy your merch because if they don't buy your merch,

649
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:35.440
they can't listen to my show exactly. So you just

650
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:37.480
go on Wustenberg.

651
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:40.760
You you have to spell it like w you with

652
00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:45.559
the two dots on it, or you E because that's international.

653
00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:48.880
I guess. Yeah, So it's w U E s t

654
00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:50.760
E n b E r G.

655
00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:55.199
And then this little how you call it the slash

656
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:59.239
not not a slash, but the little underscore and the

657
00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:02.760
music and you find us on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, whatever, YouTube,

658
00:41:03.159 --> 00:41:07.400
and yeah, it's nice to follow us because that's where

659
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:11.519
you get every information. You know, Just subscribe to the

660
00:41:11.559 --> 00:41:16.199
newsletter because that's the only direct connection to all the people. Yeah,

661
00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:20.239
and you know, all the algorithm shit is problematic because

662
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:23.440
even if you follow us, you don't get everything, and

663
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:25.400
so we all have to pay for it, you know,

664
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:28.440
like advertise it. And I think it would be good

665
00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:32.039
if we have less of paying for adverts and more

666
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:36.679
of connection to humans, to musicians, and so yeah, listen

667
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:39.280
to us on Spotify, on YouTube. Come to a gig

668
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:42.320
we haven't. The next gig is in actually on the

669
00:41:42.559 --> 00:41:46.039
Source in Portugal on Santam, one of my favorite countries.

670
00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:49.679
It's insane. So if one of you guys is there,

671
00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:52.880
This festival is one of the oldest of the Source.

672
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:55.480
It's the oldest of the Source and one of the

673
00:41:55.519 --> 00:41:58.519
oldest in Portugal. And they have the stage directly on

674
00:41:58.599 --> 00:42:00.840
the beach. It's insane.

675
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:02.760
I can surf while I'm watching.

676
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Yeah, it's it's they have a you know, they know

677
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what they're doing.

678
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That's pretty cool. Yeah, it is. I've actually been the

679
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festivals in l A on the beach, and the thing

680
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that always amazes me is a circle pit on the beach,

681
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Like I go into the marsh, bit I'm not doing

682
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that in the sand. That's a broken leg guaranteed, you know,

683
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but hey, somebody else wants to do it, that's that's

684
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all good. And since you brought up TikTok, has she

685
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done anything embarrassing while she was drunk and done a TikTok?

686
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I mean, the night is still young. I think you

687
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need to do it here at VAKIN. Too bad when

688
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it hit the concrete, you weren't tiktoking.

689
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Yeah, you know that would have been viral, of course,

690
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but that's just for a private archive.

691
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You know, exactly. Do you guys have any final words

692
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you want to share with the listeners that we have

693
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not covered already? Okay, Well, I think we're.

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Thankful for everyone who's coming out these days because there's

695
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a change of times and people tend to stay home

696
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because you know, money is less, So we're advertising for

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live music, come out, support the live scene. We're very

698
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thankful for everyone buying a ticket, and yes, just support.

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Musicians all over the world will be thankful for it.

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And let's stay connected because that's I think a very

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human thing to do.

702
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I love it, and I love that you were here

703
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at VAKIN, and I love the whole concept of what

704
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you do with your music, and even like you got

705
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the token metal head. Yeah, we have him. So thank

706
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:55.559
you for being on the Adventures of pipe Man. Thank

707
00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:57.400
you so much, thank you very much.

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Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Papemin on

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wf CUI Radio.