Aug. 2, 2026
Becoming Erzengel: Metal, Transformation, and the Healing Power of Music at Wacken
The conversation focused on an engaging interview at Wacken Open Air with Gray from Erzengel, exploring the band's unique stage persona, musical influences, personal journey, and the powerful impact of music on both artist and audience. The discussion explored how metal and classical music intertwine, the evolution of stage identity, and the universal family spirit found within the metal community.Main Topics Covered
- Erzengel’s musical style and influences
- Inspiration and development of stage theatrics
- The transformational power of performance
- The healing and connective nature of music
- Personal stories from Gray’s musical journey
- Audience reactions and the meaning of community in metal
- Upcoming shows and ways to connect with Erzengel
- One concept discussed was the band’s striking armor and giant wings, described as a cross between Powerwolf and Rammstein, with a fantasy "Dark Angel" theme blending light and darkness 00:43, 01:35.
- The discussion explored how the character and look were not just a decision but a gradual evolution—each step leading naturally to the final Erzengel stage persona 10:08, 10:15.
- A key theme that emerged was the therapeutic value of music, for both the creator and the listener. Gray reflected on how Chester Bennington and Linkin Park’s music provided emotional support in youth, and how now Erzengel’s music has begun to uplift others in the same way 05:23, 11:25.
- Several points were raised, including the story of a fan reaching out to say Erzengel’s music brought them “light in a hard time,” giving Gray a profound sense of fulfillment 11:46.
- The performer’s transformation was discussed, with Gray explaining how putting on the costume allows shedding everyday concerns and revealing an authentic inner self onstage 07:41, 08:04.
- The conversation focused on the paradox of artists appearing extroverted on stage while often being introverted in real life, and the switch that happens when the spotlight comes on 07:17, 07:27.
- The discussion highlighted the inclusivity and family-like atmosphere at Wacken, emphasizing how music unites attendees regardless of background, culture, or language 17:30, 17:42, 17:55.
- It was noted that metal fans and performers span generations and value mutual respect and support 04:41, 04:54.
- Gray shared amusing anecdotes of accidentally slapping bandmates with his large wings on stage, reflecting the challenges and fun of elaborate costuming in small venues 12:28.
- A key theme that emerged was the continual growth and vocal development undertaken since joining Erzengel, and the immense personal rewards it brought 13:15.
- Erzengel will host their mini-festival “Erzfest” in Ludwigshafen-Modach on August 29 and perform at Seven Arts Club in Mannheim with “Die Legende von Nord” on September 26 14:43, 14:52, 15:09.
- "Think of Powerwolf and Rammstein got a child." 01:15
- "Classic is just metal without electricity." 04:40
- "Every time I'm dressing up, that’s the feeling of leaving everything I don’t have to wear now behind me." 07:41
- "Your music is bringing me up, it's lifting me up, you're bringing light to my life." 11:46
- "Music is the one language we all understand." 17:30
- "We are all one race here, the human race." 17:58
- Social Media: Facebook, TikTok, Instagram — search for “Erzengel Band” 16:02
- How to Find the Band: Translate “Archangel” into German (Erzengel) for search 16:10
- Upcoming Shows:
- Erzfest at Ludwigshafen-Modach: August 29
- Seven Arts Club, Mannheim: September 26 with Die Legende von Nord 14:52, 15:09
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This is the pipe Man here on the Inventors Pipe
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Man W four c Y Radio, and I'm here.
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With I'm Gray from out saying a nice.
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Here, a fucking yeah.
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Now, like I just like pulled you out of the
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United Area because you look so frecking cool. We're on
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audio right now, so people can't see you, so maybe
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you can describe what you look like.
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Okay, I'm wearing just a bunch of armor and huge wings.
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Yeah, they are huge.
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And can you tell them what I asked you to
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do when I first met you and I was like
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trying to get a picture with you, like choking.
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Nah, yeah, I have to choke you because of why
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why I have to choke you?
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Because you look like one of those like medieval people
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that might want to choke me. So tell us about
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your band and your music.
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Okay, so let's see think of Power Wolf and Ramstein
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got a Child.
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Wow, that's some pretty badass music. Yeah, and how did
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you come up with this whole concept and what you
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do in your band?
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Okay, the concept of arts is a little bit older
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than me and the band, but I focused the thing
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to what you're seeing, right, so the people can't see,
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but a dark angel looking like concept of fantasy and
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something a little bit between spooky.
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Yeah, and a light source source of light, so to say.
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You also look like you escaped it from escaped from wasteland.
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Yeah, kind of right, right right?
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So what does it feel like being here on Holy
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ground of Vacking.
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Oh, every time I'm here, I'm it's feeling like coming home,
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coming back to the whole family.
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And yeah, having a very very good time here. And
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did your band play at back in this year?
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Not yet.
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I like the way you said that, because now we're
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going to put it out there in the universe that
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you will play next year.
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Oh.
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I like the way you say it. I like the
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form of universe and things stuff like that.
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Absolutely.
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So what was that moment in time in your life
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where you knew this is what you had to do
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with your life.
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Oh, that's I think the time I become no, no,
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the time my brain is working. So you know, in
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the like three years old, for years old, I got
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to sing every time, really everywhere, I'm singing, singing, singing,
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like I don't know. My parents always told me, ah, yoh,
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we heard you we know you're there because we hear
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singing nice. Since then, I never stopped, so.
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They encouraged you.
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Yeah, of course.
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And what did they think now that you're an adult
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and you're doing it like this.
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If ever they have the time to come to the show,
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they will be there.
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See. I love that.
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I think that's the difference between like generations now, like
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in our generation and maybe before, where your parents would
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be like, get a real at least in America, get
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a real job, and I, like my dad would never
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come to a show with me. Yeah, but I bring
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my kids, my grandkids, and that's what metal's all about.
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Were one big family.
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Yeah yeah. What was the first concert you ever went to?
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Ooh, that's a good question. You mean metal concert or
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any anything. I think that was a classical show, classical
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concert with a big, big orchestra.
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That makes sense, by the way, because metal is a
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derivative of classical.
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Yeah, yeah, most people don't realize that.
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Classic is just metal without electricity.
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A good way of putting it. I love it. And
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so how long have you been doing this band?
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This band since twenty twenty two? Okay, but rock and
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metals since I think the age of fifteen sixteen on about.
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What was the first album you ever owned?
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Oh, Lincoln Park nice hybrid theory.
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Nice.
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Have you had a chance to see Lincoln Park now?
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With Emily, I never saw them. You never saw them.
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Even with Chester, you never saw them.
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Huh No.
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Wow, what's a hard hard time for me to see
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Chessa leaving this planet? Yeah, because chess I got in
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my youth. Chessa got me a lot of possibility to
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to understand my feelings and control my emotions.
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Isn't the music?
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Isn't that interesting that?
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Well, music is the best therapy for both you the artists,
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and you the listener and me the listener. But is
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it interesting that the people that have given the most
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to others in music, like your example, are the ones
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that maybe they didn't have anybody themselves, And you know, like,
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so that's why they're not on this earth anymore, because
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you know, they knew what you were going through, They
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wanted to help you, they give it to you, but
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then in the end they didn't have that place for themselves.
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And yeah, you know, I think that's what happens too
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when you get big in this music business. It's like
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when people think, oh, you're living a dream life, but
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they don't really know what you're really going through. You know,
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there's one thing entertaining, there's an earth thing. When you're
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all by yourself with your thoughts.
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That's are two different worlds.
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Exactly, and I experienced it too expressed.
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You know, like when I'm doing this, I'm in a
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different zone, a different thought process than I am in
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real life. It's still the same me, but you know
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what I mean, the switch that kind of changes, and
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you like even before you saw I went over there
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with them to film something, and like as soon as
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they turn the camera on, I'm like, you know, yeah,
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the performer turns on.
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That's the same to every artist on stage, I think exactly.
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You know, I always like to clarify that a lot
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of artists people think they're the extreme extroverts because of
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what they do, and usually it's the exact opposite.
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They're usually introverts.
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Yeah, of course, So what is it you do when
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you get on stage to kind of get in that
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zone to where it doesn't matter who's out there in
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the crowd.
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That's a little bit interesting, I think because every time
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I dressing up, that's the feeling of leaving everything I
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don't have to wear now behind me and to yeah
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that I'm just myself in the smallest parts of myself,
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So breaking every other mask or.
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Behavior away from what I am in reality.
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That makes so much sense. I also like, for me
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as a radio person, as soon as a mic goes
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on some a lot of times, I'm exactly who I
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am inside my head that I'm never in real life.
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Like we all go through life showing different people in
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our life parts of us. Yeah, but nobody really knows
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to us inside our head. But when we're performing like
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you are, or I'm on the radio, it's almost like
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like I feel like I'm on the radio that I'm
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not even talking to anybody because I'm just talking to
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a mic. Even if I'm talking to millions of people,
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it doesn't occur to me. So it's like I have
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no inhibitions. I can just be one hundred percent me
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without worrying about judgment, without worrying about what other people think.
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But then at the end of the day.
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Us as ours are probably our worst critics. You know,
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I can't tell you how many times I've gotten off
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an interview. I'm like, oh man, I sucked and They're like, man,
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that was a great interview. I had so much fun.
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Same as you as an artist. You know, you probably
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get off stage and you're like, oh, I messed this up.
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I messed that up. Yeah, of course, no way in
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the audience noticed. Yeah you did.
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They come up to you and say, well, what's a
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great show, the best show you ever played?
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And I thought, there's a hit the wrong I.
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I lost my microphone, I lost my Indian monitoring.
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Nah, don't know us for it.
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So did you always have the concept of being like
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this in your band or in a band or was
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it something that something happened that you decide, Like something
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came in your head and you're like, oh, this is
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how I want to present myself on stage.
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Oh that was no decision.
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It was becoming the ads anger the Archangels. Yet to
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say that one step got another step, put another step
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in the way, and so it's it grew.
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It was growing up to what it is now.
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I totally get that because even my radio personality, it
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started out as one thing and then it kind of evolved. Yeah,
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and some of it because of situations that made it evolve,
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and then it kind of clicks to you, like Oh
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my god, this is it. Yeah, you've never I would
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have never thought of like the personality I am now
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on the radio in the beginning. If you told me
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that's who I would become, I probably wouldn't.
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Have no, you know.
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And I'm sure the same with you. Like somebody went
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to you at fifteen and said you'd be sitting here
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back and doing this.
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Yeah, don't kidding me. Now, you're kidding me. Just yeah,
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go away, exactly right, right.
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What do you have as your goal, your ultimate goal
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from your music? What kind of impact do you have
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it wanted to have on the world?
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WHOA For me, the goal is the first time first Yeah,
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to play here, to play and vaking.
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That's one of my everybody's right of my dreams.
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But as another dream came true. I think two weeks ago,
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so one of our fans sent me a message. She
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is in a really hard time, and she told me
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your music is bringing me up, it's lifting me up.
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You're bringing lights to my life. And that was the point. Oh,
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we've got goosebumps on me too. That was the point
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I thought, Okay, Chester, here we go. You made this
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for me and I now have the fucking opportunity to
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do it.
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For another person, and that's so amazing.
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Best feeling ever. Right. Yeah, So now I have a
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funny question for you.
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When you're up on stage the ever have you ever
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knocked over one of your other band members with your wings?
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Oh?
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Of course slapped them and and here you can see
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on my wing.
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Uh, let's see this whole Oh I I.
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Come on the guitar.
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The guitar slept it away and so yeah, that's it's
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small stages.
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