Aug. 2, 2026
Born Broken at Wacken: Canadian Metal, Festival Stories, and the Power of Community
In this episode of Podcast, Pipeman interviews Mike and Michael from Born Broken at the legendary Wacken Festival. They dive into the Canadian metal scene, their journey to performing at Wacken, the evolution of metal festivals, band stories from the past, and what community in metal means today. They also reminisce about metal’s roots, the changing music landscape, and the band’s latest accomplishments.Main Topics Covered
- The journey to Wacken and the travel chaos (00:37)
- The scale, history, and magic of Wacken Festival (01:21)
- The experience of playing on the Headbanger stage (02:38)
- Stage size and energy: Club gigs vs. festival crowds (03:36)
- Old school vs. spectacle: Keeping metal authentic (04:42)
- The Canadian metal and rock legacy, including major bands (06:51)
- U.S. Festival and heavy music history (08:42)
- Canadian bands’ path to global and domestic recognition (09:32)
- The Wacken Metal Battle journey and band drama (13:11)
- Community, empathy, and the ethos of the metal scene (16:22)
- Albums as experiences vs. today’s streaming culture (20:50)
- Merch, tape trading, and connecting with fans (19:01)
- Pipeman and Michael share their grueling travel experiences, sprinting through huge airports with heavy gear to reach the festival (00:37).
- The hosts reflect on the sheer size and legendary status of Wacken, with its 35-year history and loyal global following (01:21).
- Mike describes the adrenaline rush and freedom of performing on a large stage, contrasting it with cramped club gigs (02:38), highlighting the energy exchange with the crowd.
- Michael discusses adjusting the live show for smaller venues and the importance of vibe and authenticity over flashy effects (03:37).
- Discussion about how metal was always about the music, not the look—albums, liner notes, and tape trading as part of the experience (05:38).
- Pipeman recounts firsthand stories from the LA and Bay Area metal scene, including the first shows of Slayer and Metallica (06:31).
- Mike and Michael list foundational Canadian metal acts and their influence, including Voivod, Razor, Anvil, Exciter, Triumph, Rush, April Wine, and Mahogany Rush (06:51, 09:05).
- Discussion about Canadian bands needing international acclaim before being celebrated at home (09:32).
- Pipeman draws parallels between Wacken and historic festivals like the US Festival, sharing anecdotes from Van Halen and his personal crowd experiences (10:55).
- Nostalgic reflections on the wildness and different standards of past metal eras (12:08).
- The band recounts entering the Wacken Metal Battle, dealing with internal challenges, and their eventual victory leading to a surreal appearance at Wacken (13:11).
- Emphasis on humility and the community aspect of metal as they progress in their career (14:18).
- Pipeman, Mike, and Michael discuss the camaraderie among metalheads, the supportive vibe of the mosh pit, and the potential for music to bring the world together (15:31).
- Mike describes speaking to the Wacken crowd about being one community and the inspiration behind their song "Age of Anger" (16:22).
- The band promotes their merch, especially a limited edition zombie Mountie shirt created for Wacken (19:15), along with ways for fans to get their music and gear.
- Emphasis on DIY ethic—sending physical albums, tape trading nostalgia, and authentic fan engagement (20:08).
- Discussion on how albums were once immersive experiences, now replaced by a single/track-focused streaming culture (20:50).
- Mike shares how Born Broken still structures albums as journeys, encouraging listeners to discover hidden influences and Easter eggs (22:22).
- “When you have a small stage that you can't do that, it almost cramps your playing, right?” — Pipeman (03:29)
- “It's more about the attitude and the experience… we just go out there and kill, you know?” — Michael (04:26)
- “That's what metalheads are. We're like a community. It doesn't matter where we're from.” — Mike (17:14)
- “I still have the Metallica demo tape that was probably recorded over 50 times. You can't even tell what it says.” — Pipeman (20:30)
- “People ask, how do you put songs together? We still put our songs together like an experience. Every track leads into the next for a reason.” — Mike (20:54)
- “If you can pick out the influences in our songs and hit us up… I’ll send you some free merch.” — Mike (23:08)
- Born Broken Merch:
- Main shop: loudtracks.com
- Music platforms: Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, Bandcamp
- Social media: Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Twitter (“X”)
- Direct contact: DM on socials for albums/merch
- Bands Referenced: Voivod, Anvil, Exciter, Triumph, Rush, April Wine, Mahogany Rush, Metallica, Slayer, Winger, Skid Row, Cryptopsy, Kataklysm, DBC, Razor, Bryan Adams, Shania Twain
- Album Mentioned: Am I Invisible (Born Broken)
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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe
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Mike from Bourn Broken, Michael from Bourn Broken. Nice here
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at Vakin. Boy. You and I came a long way
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for to get to the Holy Ground.
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We definitely did.
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Oh my god. My travel was like they booked my
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layovers like right next to each r. So first one
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was Atlanta, which is a huge airport, and the flight
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was on the other side airport. So I'm carrying this
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fifty pound backpack running through the airport to get to
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that one. Then I get to Amsterdam the second layover.
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I go there all the time. I forgot how big
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of that airport is and that was a bitch. And
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literally I got there like with a minute to spare,
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and I was like running the whole way opposite end
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of the airport. Of course, twenty four hours no sleep.
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But it's worth it sounds familiar, right, It's worth it though,
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like here we are the Holy Ground. It it blew
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my mind, like I did a bunch of interviews when
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I first got here this morning, and then I ventured
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out like fuck this place is big. And I do
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a lot of festivals, like I do Healthfest every year,
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and I'm like, it can't be much bigger than hell Fest.
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And then I looked at him like maybe it can.
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Yeah, well this is the this is the big daddy
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of them all right.
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Oh yeah, and thirty fifth anniversary and it started with
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something not bigger than this room. That's what blows my mind.
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That's just the way festivals go.
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The fact that it had its longevity and it's pushed
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through and it's done all that, it's it's just a
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testament to itself.
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Oh yeah, they really knew what they were doing, the founders,
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and they've created this community that people are so loyal
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to this and I'm sure in Canada the same, but
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in the States, everybody I know, they know this is
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the festival. If you're gonna pick one to go to.
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This is it.
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Yeah, And for us to be able to play it
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is absolutely mind blowing. So yeah, that's what I was
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gonna ask you about. What did it feel like being
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on a valking stage, Like, what does that feel like?
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We're being on the ground here, you know, what does
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all that feel like? Okay, Well, when it really comes
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down to it. All the nerves or whatever else is
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quite beforehand.
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Yeah, because once you get on the stage, it kind
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of goes you go into automatic pilot and you just
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you just do it. Doing it for so long, it's
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just kind of like a rinse and repeat type of thing.
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It's a little bit differ friend, you're you're able to
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focus a bit more there on the crowd, look at
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the crowd more, or try to get the crowd more involved.
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So like that was really cool.
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You know. The size of the stage that we got
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to play on was great for us. You know, it
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was the Headbanger stage.
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We're able to run around, jump around. I haven't been
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able to stomp around on a stage like that in
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such a long time, so I felt really good to
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be able to just let loose, you know, and just
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really stomp it.
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And so that was fun. It's a lot more freeing too,
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isn't it, Because like when you have a small stage
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that you can't do that, it almost cramps you're playing
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right Well.
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I Mean there's a lot of times where when we
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play a small club or a small venue, you have
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to sacrifice certain parts of the show just due to the.
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Stage space right exactly, and you have to kind of
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you know.
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you're like, well where, so I'm just gonna hop in
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one place.
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Like That's why I see a lot of times the
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band member will come down on the floor, you know,
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and because and I look at them and it's like, yeah,
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they just want some more room. Yeah.
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in front of an already backline drum kit on a
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stage that's big enough for maybe one drum kit. Yeah,
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so you got to accommodate those situations. But whatever, man,
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we make it work, you know. And it's exactly as
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long as you bring the energy in the vibe. But
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the size doesn't matter. It's it's it's the vibe. And
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we do it a little old school like it's more
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about the attitude and the experience. We don't really do
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lasers and dragons and all the rest of it, you know,
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like it's more just go out there and kill you know.
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Yep. It's so funny because that's exactly the word that
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was in my head before you said it, you know,
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because it's true. It's like you think about the old
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school days, like they didn't need any flash for real metal.
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Forget the other stuff. But the real metal is just
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you went out there and you killed it and people
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dug it like that's you know. I think that's a
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big reason why grunge got popular for a while, because
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people were sick of all the hair metal, you know,
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fashion show and this and that, and just want people
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that were going to get up there and play. Yeah,
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I think so too.
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I don't really know much about the grunge thing with
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like that type of attitude, but yeah, with metal us
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growing up in the eighties and the nineties, Okay, I
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just dated ourselves there. But you went to go see
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a band not because of the way that they looked,
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but because of their music. Exaust What you had is
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you didn't have back then all the social media and
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all that. You had one picture on the back of
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a cassette deck on the back of a cassette tape
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that was so little and that's the only thing that
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you had. And then you had the liner notes, so
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you would memorize the lyrics while you listened to the
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cassette and you got four songs and then you had
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to flip it and listen to the other four songs, you.
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Know what I mean.
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And yeah, so you it was the music that drove
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you to like the band, not the persona of the people.
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Exactly, because like during the eighties, I lived in la
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and you know, like in nineteen eighty I was twelve
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and my dad said, pack your bags, We're moving to
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California in three days. I was very pissed about. Little
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did I know how great a move that would be.
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I wouldn't be sitting with you right now. But that
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was the thing, is like, what was that Slayers first
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show ever? Metallica's first show ever, and you know, they
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didn't do anything flashy. They just came out and fucking
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were brutal. And then when they left us, me and
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my bro would hitchhike up to the Bay Area and
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then we saw what it was really all about in
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metal and here we are.
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Yeah, that's that's kind of like like what the metal
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scene started out back then, Like we had like Voivod.
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Oh yeah, bands like DBC, stuff like that. You know,
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who are some of the other bands that started out
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way back then. Ninety one was Kryptopsy and Cataclysm. So
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this is going more extreme, you know, but yeah, but
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the but the bands that Okay, we also had Razor
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and Anvil, Exciter and.
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Oh you know, I'm a huge Exciter fan, huge huge,
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like I love Exciter.
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We also had Brian Adams there you go. You also
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have uh, Sania Twain, Triumph, Triumph, you know what try Yeah,
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that's that's that. There is a great well. Of course
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we could go down that rabbit hole too with Rush
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and all these bands and whatever else, you know what
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I mean, April Wine, et cetera.
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But now I just I just covered an April Wine
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show with Triumph.
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Wow.
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I just interviewed Rick Emmett was amazing. Oh yeah, he's
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still it. Yeah. I just interviewed Voivod at Hell's Heroes, okay,
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and they killed it there. You know, I always wonder
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why so much great music comes out of Canada, and
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then I think about it and I'm like, well, fuck,
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it's so cold up there. Just to say that, I
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was just about saying it's so fucking cold, you know exactly.
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It's like either you're gonna play music or you're gonna
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play hockey.
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Right, we're both. We're both I like both.
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Yeah, me too, you know, yeah, so yeah, I know exact.
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You're exactly right, man, And there's a lot of Canadian
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bands that don't get the recognition that they deserved. Yeah,
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whether it's metal rock, whatever, you go down all kinds
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of rabbit holes and stuff.
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By the way, I just saw Triumph in April Wine.
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That was a great show.
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It was greatly, really good. But check this out. I
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saw a Triumph at the US Festival on Heavy Metal
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Day nineteen eighty three. Wow, I was And the fact
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that they were on heavy Metal Day, yeah, see I dated,
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but I dated myself right there.
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Okay, I'm gonna throw your one back. My uncle played
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on the S Festival. Whoa so Mahogany Rush? Oh really,
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Frank Marino?
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Yeah yeah, well uncle, that's so fucking cool.
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So he was actually on the S Festival.
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He played it nice.
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So another Canadian band that like never really got I mean,
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they got globally big, but actually Canada never really embraced
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them the way the rest of the world did.
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Really, it's kind of interesting. That's kind of weird because
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usually Canada you're like really about your bands, like can't
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Canadians are Rush fanatics a lot they.
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Are, But I'll tell you what it is and I've
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said this in other interviews, and Mike's gonna gonna agree
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with me on this. Canada has this thing where if
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you come from Canada, you have to make it everywhere
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else and then they'll jump on board and say you're
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one of ours. It's not to say that I like,
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I love our fans. I love Canada the fan base.
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I love my country. But classically with especially bands that
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are a little bit more on the edgy side and
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heavier side, I feel like it's other world markets that
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catch on first and then they're kind of last to
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the game. Yeah, but maybe that's changing now is that
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might be more of a thing that happened in the past.
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But it's uh, you know, there's a lot of great
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bends that come out of Canada and they just don't
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get the credit they deserve.
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We could drop a pretty good list if we actually
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took the time.
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Absolutely, because everybody we've named I think are great bands.
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And you know, it's interesting. We were talking about the
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US festival because I flashed back to the US Festival
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to day because this is my first time doing Vodking.
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I do festivals everywhere, his first time doing Vodking, and
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I was out there taking video and pictures when they
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were letting people in the infield and what. I don't
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know if you saw what goes on, but basically they
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have them at the gate and as soon as it's
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time to go in, security just opens the gate and
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they're just all rushing to the stage. And that's exactly
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what I did at the US Festival. It was like
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we waited at the gate, they opened it and I
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ran full speed to get to front. I was like
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fourth row of General, you know, fourth from the stage.
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There was no rose, you know, and there were three
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hundred thousand people, but like there was a stampede. And
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I saw that today and I was like, huh, that's
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fun memories, exactly right. I'll tell you a funny story
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too about the US Festival. So Van Hamleen they headlined Okay,
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and they were playing at talking about love and Eddie's
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playing and looks over at Dave because Dave's not singing,
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and Dave looks at the crowd of three hundred thousand
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people and says, I fucking forgot the words. And the
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whole crowd cheered like it was the best thing it
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ever happened. Except one dude and one dude heckled him
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and he turned to him and he goes, I will
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fuck your girlfriend. Any probably did.
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That's day for you, right, Yeah, But what a different
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time back then. A I'm telling the rules of the
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world were a little bit different. There's bands that never
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would be around today. No, Like I was talking about
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with my buddies from Armin Saint, who I've been buddies
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with since like I'm thirteen. I was their original merch
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company at fifteen, their first show I.
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