Jan. 9, 2025

Bumblefoot... Returns! and Will Talk About it on The Adventures of Pipeman

Renowned guitarist and composer Ron 'BUMBLEFOOT' Thal is back with a brand-new instrumental album, 'Bumblefoot ...Returns!', set for release on January 24, 2025. Thirty years after his debut solo instrumental album, BUMBLEFOOT revisits his roots with...

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Renowned guitarist and composer Ron 'BUMBLEFOOT' Thal is back with a brand-new instrumental album, 'Bumblefoot ...Returns!', set for release on January 24, 2025. Thirty years after his debut solo instrumental album, BUMBLEFOOT revisits his roots with a 14-track masterpiece that spans genres from metal to orchestral to blues

'Bumblefoot ...Returns!' features collaborations with iconic musicians, including Brian May, Steve Vai, Guthrie Govan, Derek Sherinian, and others, showcasing BUMBLEFOOT’s innovative guitar techniques, such as his signature fretless guitar and "thimble technique."

On the album, BUMBLEFOOT shared:
“It’s been 30 years since releasing the debut 'Adventures of Bumblefoot' on Shrapnel Records, and I haven’t done a fully instrumental album since. Writing during the pandemic, these songs became a soundtrack to my life – from heavy fretless growls to bluesy tributes to legends like Lonnie Johnson. It’s a reflection of the moments that shaped me.”

Ron 'Bumblefoot' Thal is a celebrated guitarist, producer, composer, and educator with a career spanning over 30 years. Known for his groundbreaking techniques, Bumblefoothas performed with bands such as Guns N' Roses, Asia, Sons of Apollo, and Whom Gods Destroy.
Beyond music, Bumblefoot is a philanthropist, hot sauce entrepreneur, and international cultural ambassador, with music featured in TV, film, and video games, including VH1’s That Metal Show.

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When I got the email from the publicist and I

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saw there was going to be new music by this

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amazing musician, I had to immediately and he can ask John.

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I immediately emailed like is he doing interviews? And so

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here we are, Bumblefoot. How are you good man?

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Very good? Oh man, we're happy twenty twenty five.

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I know here we are twenty twenty five badass new

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music that you have And I want to tell you

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right off the bat what I love most about it

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is two things. One is listening to every song. It's

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not like listening to the same song over and over again.

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They're all different, blending different genres. And I dig that because, like,

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I'm a metal head, but people think outside the metal

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world that we only listen to met No.

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Metal heads are the most diverse and intelligent and everything, no.

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Right, no doubt, no doubt. And then here's the other

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thing I love.

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Okay, so.

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You are a shredder that doesn't sound like a shredder,

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and let me to find that that goes along.

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With the same song over and over again.

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You see, there's a lot of shredders out there that

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they just played the same shred over and over and

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over again, and it's really good. And I hope it's

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really good if you're playing over and over again. But

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when I listen to your I'm listening to you on guitar,

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I'm like, yeah, it's a really good thing. I quit

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clinton playing guitar and realized, guy suck. Is this guy

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man like he could do things I would never even

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be able to think.

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Of doing on the guitar, Like it's it's.

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Amazing even with like, let's talk about your fretless guitar playing.

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That's that.

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Yes, let's talk about it.

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I love it. I love it, Thank.

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You, thank you very much. So there's this company from France.

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Vigier v Igi e R. They were around from nineteen

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eighty till last year. Patrese, the head of the company,

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has decided to stop making guitars, which is a shame,

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because he makes wonderful, wonderful guitars, and I've been playing

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them for God for twenty eight years now. I just

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love what they do, what they made. They you play

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better when you play on their next They just feel

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really good on the hands.

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And they made these metal neck fretless guitars. And I remember.

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We we started working together in ninety seven and ten

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ninety eight. We went to the NAM Show, the big

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music convention together and I saw these. They didn't have

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double necks or anything. This was our own creation, this thing.

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They just listen. I saw it and I was like,

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why did you tell me you made these? Holy shit,

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look at this thing.

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And I still laugh thinking about the look on his face.

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He just looks up in the air and she goes

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like all frustrated.

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He's like, in eighteen years this company has existed, we've

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only sold one of them. Nobody wants these things, nobody else.

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It's like, I do, please give me one, And they

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gave me one. I took it home, immediately started writing

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with it, and it became more and more a part

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of what I do, to the point that I was

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using fretless so much that and I would use it

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in the same song where I'd be switching back and

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forth that I really needed something where I could access

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both quickly.

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And I thought about retractable.

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Frets, thought about a flippable dual sided neck that's fretless

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on the other side, like all kinds of ideas, and

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this just.

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Seemed the most practical to do that. Yeah.

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Plus, with it, I can even play on two nextst

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once if I need to, And it's just there are

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less limitations with it. I can have two different tunings,

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which I do a lot. I have this one drop

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date and this one down low. And yeah, so started

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making these in two thousand and nine, and this is

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my this is my.

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Weapon of choice. This is my everything guitar. I love it.

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And see, you know, if I knew about that when

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I was playing guitar as a teenager, I think I

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might have kept playing, because that was the biggest problem

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I always had.

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The frets always gotten away.

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I was clumsy with the threats, and then you know,

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you would have that terrible sound when you're not having

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your fingers position and right.

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With this thing, it's more like playing slide now when yeah,

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you know people playing slide you have this just and

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if you have a different tuning then you can maybe

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get some more stuff out of it.

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Let's see.

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But with the.

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Frontless tune, you can do all the same stuff, but

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you don't have to stay like this, which is one

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finger moving that way.

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Wow.

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You know what I just thought of watching that is like,

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why don't all these blues lap slide hard players play fretless?

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They should.

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I guess they don't need to because they got that

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thing down. But it would be great to see and

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even all this know about my dabbling that a little

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bit songs like Moonshine and things like that, a little

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bit of that.

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Yeah.

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I also love that the first song on bumble Foot

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Returns is eight minutes and twenty six seconds in twenty

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twenty four, twenty twenty five.

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I love it, man.

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I do find that some bands are going back to that.

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It's like songs now, it's so weird.

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Some of my.

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Favorite songs as a teenager would never even survive today

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because the intro was longer than most people will listen

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to a track on Spotify.

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Yeah, you know, one thing about rock music, metal music

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is that we love bands and we love albums.

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Yeah, where we tend to have I think a longer

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attention span.

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Yeah, exactly. And you know, so you have also some

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cool guests on the album with you. Let's talk about

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each one. Tell tell us what made you pick them

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for those particular songs.

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I think the songs picked them. That's kind of how

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it went. Like, let's see Guthorine Govan. I was in

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a guitar magazine in August nineteen eighty nine and I

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got a letter in the mail from this kid. I

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was a teenager and from another teenager is like, Hi,

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my name is Guthrie. I live in the UK. I'm

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a guitar player too. Here check out my demo and

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sent a cassette a cassette and we became pen pals

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and we would write each other letters, just talking about

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guitar stuff and sending each other cassettes of our demos

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and little song ideas, and we would write out the

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riffs that we're doing. It's like, here's what I did here,

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put this finger over here and this one. Now I'm

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like this and this like that, and for years. We've

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been friends since nineteen eighty nine. So the one song

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that he is on that one, well, I was a

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guest on one of his songs called Rhode Island Shred

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on his first solo ALBUMY put out back in two

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thousand six. I had this one riff from nineteen eighty

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nine that I never did anything with and it was

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always just lingering in the back of my head somewhere.

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And when I started working on this album, it was

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twenty twenty. We had a lot of time on our hands,

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and it's like, you know what, fuck it, let me

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make another instrumental, all instrumental album. And the first thing

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I did is I grabbed that riff and said, let

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me turn this into a song finally after how long,

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And it was that riff that went. So I took

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that riff and just expands it on and turns it

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into a whole song, built it up, and I was like,

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well that's you know, that riff was right around the

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same time that I met Guthrie, and I'm picturing the

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solo section where there's like trade offs of something like

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different rounds of it happening. So he would be perfect

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for it, you know. It's like that moment in time

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that he was a part of in this riff was

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a part of, and this song was a part of.

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Let's finish it off the way it started, and so

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he laid down solos in that. We traded back and

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forth in that song, the Brian May song now that one.

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I just had this song and I wrote it and

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at the end of it, when there were the sections

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where solos could go, and I just I'm sitting back

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and hearing what the song has become, and it's like

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this song is just crying out, it's begging, it's pleading

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for Brian May, like his spirit, his sound, what he

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brings to music like this song would not be complete,

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it would not be it would not be all it

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could be if he wasn't on there. It was like

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the song became this song and it was just like,

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this is a match for him.

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Let me ask him, and he threw down a solo,

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the song of the Thread.

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I want to mention that before I mentioned the Steve

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VI song The Thread, I started writing a song. There's

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this Well, there is an email thread that I've been

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part of like ten years where a bunch of guitar

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friends were all on it. We just talk about random

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shit whatever. Almost every day we're talking and pretty much

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I have sometimes, you know, ten times a day, just

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all talking about whatever random things. And I was writing

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this song and I knew like the melody it just

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sounded it seemed too familiar. It's like, I know, I

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stole this from somewhere and I don't know where.

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I can't place it. I couldn't have.

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Come up with this melody. It's something else and I

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don't know what. So I asked them, I was like,

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check this that, what is this? What did I steal

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this from? And most of the guys are like, oh no, no,

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I mean it sounds kind of, you know, like it's

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been done before, but it's not. I don't hear anything exactly.

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And then someone on the thread said, oh, wait a minute,

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that kind of where the chords go and the way

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it ends the last couple of notes of each phrase

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of it, asked Gary Moore song h.

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Yeah. I was like, oh shit, it is that's what

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it is, so okay.

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It was the one in a Parisian walkways where he

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did his kind of version of that. And so I

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back to the drawing board. I changed the chords, I

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changed the melody and restructured it and came up with

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something new. And then I showed it to my thread

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mates and said what do you think of this? Is

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this I think I had And they're like, oh, perfect,

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it sounds more like you. And it's it's hasn't been

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heard before. It's different. It's it's definitely that works. But

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when the first break comes, like you jump and right

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into crazy shit pacing, you know, maybe do something else

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there and then go to that crazy riff. And so

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really that song was guided by my Thread mates to

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become what it came.

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So I named it after him.

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I called it the Thread, which is what we call

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it the Thread, and Steve I is on the Thread.

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So I was making the song Monstruoso, and I'm picturing

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all these songs. I'm picturing all kinds of stuff in

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my head, like it's almost like I'm writing soundtracks to

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things that I'm either experiencing or just feeling saying whatever

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it is.

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So I was.

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Picturing like the old sixties seventies Japanese horror movies, the

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monster movies, the old Godzilla movies, wrote damn mathro all

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of them, and just the out of like that dope step,

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growling keyboard, making all those noises Monstross.

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And that's the name of that monster, Monstross.

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And then after it like breaks down and it goes

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into that whole kind of clean middle thing and then

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suddenly kicks back in out of nowhere bag and needed

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it just it was calling for something illien like sounds

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that a guitar does not make. And I was like,

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there's only one guy that can do that makes sounds

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that a guitar cannot make, and just so I asked

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he he.

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Was like, you want to throw it down? And he's

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like yeah, so he threw down the solo.

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So it's really it's almost like after the songs became

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what they were, when it was like, all right, there

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is a match for these songs that and I didn't

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want a lot of guests or anything. It kept it

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down to a minimum. All these songs that seemed like

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they could really use that that cherry on top that

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only that person. Yeah, something I can't give that only

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they could in that way, So I asked and they

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did it.

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Yeah, So something that you gave in one of the

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songs that I can't remember which one it was, but

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it was so funny because my brother and I last

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night literally were just talking about Frampton performing on the

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Rock Hall of Fame and how he was like he

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was so happy.

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Because he did the you know, the like mouth harp.

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Yeah, And there was one part of song and I'm

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sure that you're using your fretless guitar that Immediately when

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I heard I was like, wow, he's doing it on the.

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Guitar, the Greekstown crossing thing.

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And I was using a talk box, the thing where

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you have that that tube to a microphone the guitar

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into it. It has a speaker that just is all

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encapsulated except for the tube, so all the sound gets

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pushed through the tube into your mouth where it resonates

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in your mouth and the microphone picks it up. So

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that's what that's what that is, the talk box, the

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you know, all the great stuff, everything from.

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Wow Wow with it on a prayer to Joe.

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Walsh so of course Frampton, uh la.

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Everything. So it was that kind of song.

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And that's the one person that didn't do it is

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when I made that song, that's what I imagined for

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that song was either like.

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Frampton or Joe Walsh.

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Wow.

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And I did reach out to Joe Walsh and asked

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him if he would lay something down and he heard

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the song and he said that he he felt like

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the song was already done, it didn't need him.

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Wow. Well that's a huge compliment, right.

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I was like, I was like, well, actually, like this

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solo section, that's that's for you. But I was like,

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when someone says no, I'm not going to try and

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change their mind. Ye, I'm not going to do that.

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If he wasn't doing it, then I'm not going to

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come back and say well, no it's not done.

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You need you know.

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It's just like thank you for listening, you know. And

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then I did something that that I pictured them doing

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Frampton or that kind of thing, and that's what I did.

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I did the talk box with the fretless Wow. Yes,

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I love it.

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I love it.

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And so the album drops on the twenty fourth of

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this month, January twenty fourth.

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Very cool.

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Where can people Where do you recommend people go to

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get the album when it drops?

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Or can they repre save it now? Or oh you

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like that?

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There are plenty of options. First, you go to bumblefoot

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dot com and you can get Vinyl, which I wanted

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it to have a ton of art.

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What I loved about Vinyl.

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As a kid is just all the things, whether it's

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a spinning wheel of ZEP three or like anything that

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just it was art.

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It was something you held in your hands and it

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was interesting. Yeah.

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So what I did is it's two discs. Get fold

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are sleeves full images, you know, artwork on both sides

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of both sleeves.

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But the second disc is a UV art pressing.

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It has artwork on the fourth side, and it's clear

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so aside, like a clear whitish disc with artwork on.

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The fourth side.

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So it has like the speceship and all the different

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things from the album are on there. So as you

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walk listening to side three, you're seeing the art from

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side four and the ship spinning and moving and everything

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on it. And if you just put on side four,

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you have the artwork directly there and all of that.

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For the CD.

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It opens up same thing you have in this pocket CD,

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and in this one is a booklet, but it's not stapled.

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It unfolds it into like a.

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Big square, so you have the big art there too

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on one side and another picture on the other side.

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And then you have this thing where I haven't opened

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this yet, but it travels into like a big.

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Long strip of artwork on both sides.

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Wow.

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Yeah, like this is what we loved about physical stuff. Yeah.

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I always say the kids today, they're messing out man, kids. Yeah,

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I can't believe we've gotten to this point to say

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that too.

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You know.

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But like the artwork back then, is how you decided

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to buy an album or like a set because you

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couldn't hear it. Most of the bands I like didn't

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play on the radio. Uh oh yeah, most of the

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stuff they didn't play it on the radio that I

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listened to. So you just had to take a shot,

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and usually took a shot by you looked at an

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album cover and like, wow, that looks cool.

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We browsed the record store, we saw and Iron made

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an album like this looks a badass. You take it

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home and you're glad you got it, and then you

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go back and you get the rest of it.

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I would sit there with my headphone on and listen

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to the whole album like over and over again, with

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all the artwork, the lyrics, look at everything.

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It's like a full sensory experience. Not this, yeah.

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Let's say a few seconds okay, next, you know, so

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that miss out on so much.

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That's the thing.

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That's one thing that I wanted to do with this

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release is I wanted it to.

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Be more.

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More for the senses, more of an experience than just

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putting something on on Shitify, you know. So, I mean

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it's on there too, It's on anywhere you want to stream.

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You can download it too. There's on band camp and

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all of that. But my first album was on cassette

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thirty years ago. I was like, fuck it, I'm putting

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this out on cassette. Hey, listen, are the people that

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still collect these? Or if someone that just wants an

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interesting old metual merch item cassette, why.

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I have a retro phonograph here that has not only

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for albums, but for cassettes and CDs.

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Nine Does it have a track?

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I wish? Man? Listen.

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I used to listen to Blizzard of Oz on eight track,

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and you would have to first of all, you'd have

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to take the little matchbook and put it underneath or

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else it was really slow. And then mister Crowley would

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like fade out in the second track and then fade

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back in in the third track.

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Oh man.

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I had two albums on a track that I would

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listen to until they snapped. One was Meet a Little

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Fat Out of Hell and the other one they were

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the opening band for Kiss on the seventy nine Dynasty Tour,

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a band called New England. This album, this band was

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so fucking good everybody should go.

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Back and check them out.

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And uh yeah, So I, after seeing Kiss at Madison

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Square Garden seventy nine, nine years old, next day, immediately

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ran to the record store and got New England's album.

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They didn't have it on vinyl. I was so bumped.

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All they had on was a track. I couldn't wait

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another day. I had to have it or so I

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got it on a track and I listened to that

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thing to death.

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Yeah.

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So my first album I ever owned myself in my life,

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not ones that I stole from my brothers, because like, that's.

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That was my introduction to music.

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Is My one brother was eleven years older than me,

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So that's how I learned about stuff like Mountain and

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Cream and all those sixties bands. And then I was

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at Seaside Heights slea Side Yeah, and I can't remember

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how old, well, I don't know how old I was.

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I'd have to do the math at this point, but

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I was.

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I played Why on the Carnie Games and won. And

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the reason I played the game is I saw you

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could win albums and so I played it and there

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was one speaking of like the album cover of artwork,

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there was one album that stood out to me just because, wow,

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those dudes look cool. And it was the original Kiss

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album when it first came out. That was my first

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record album. I've won it at the board walk at

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a Carnie game.

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That is so cool. So seaside, Oh, where are your Jersey.

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Ice, I am, but I'm in Florida now, okay, but

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so check this out. I was originally in Jersey till

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nineteen eighty. My father moved me to California, and that

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that was what it was so weird because that's what

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introduced me to the real like underground metal, because you know,

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I was thirteen years old hanging out at the Sunset Strip,

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like walking into the Rainbow with Motley Crue to hang

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out with Lemmy, you know.

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And at thirteen and shit, you know, and.

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I went to the first Metallica show ever in the

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LA area, like the first public show ever.

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That is so cool.

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And then I moved back to Jersey for college and

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I was manager of this store on Route nine in

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Old Bridge, Harrows and I was going to Rutgers and

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so like the Wendy's I used to go to for lunch.

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Bon Jovie used to walk in there. But then there

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was this whole scene in Old Bridge, the Old Bridge Militia.

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Yeah, I was about to say so we so I

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was at both both scenes, so.

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You know, like Mark Tornillo and all the techy quick

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dudes and Prophet and Edgar Casey and like that whole.

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Crew and Trickster and yeah, yeah and so.

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And then in LA, you know, like it was funny

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too because in LA, when Metallica left and then Slayer left,

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like me and my bro used to hitchhike up to

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the Bay Area to go into real metal shows. We

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thought they were real in LA till we got to

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the Bay Area and it was like, oh my god,

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this is like went to an Exodus show when Kirk

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was still in the band, and it was like, oh

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my god, this is insane. And it's so funny because

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when Slayer first got up there, they were like like

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Exus and the other bands possessing all that. They're like, uh, yeah,

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we don't do that up here. You need to take

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that I makeup off because in the beginning they used

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to have the dark eyel liner to look evil.

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But now that don't play up here.

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And you hear like Slayer talk about to this day

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about how they had to take their their eye makeup off,

464
00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:59.319
you know, and but they had nobody.

465
00:27:59.039 --> 00:27:59.799
To play with him.

466
00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:03.279
More in La, you know that I saw a striper

467
00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:04.480
open for Slave.

468
00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:05.640
It was the.

469
00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:07.279
Funniest, funniest shit ever.

470
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:08.160
Yeah.

471
00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:15.039
Yeah, it's like because there was no way else's bands

472
00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:17.079
could play with And then Motley Crue.

473
00:28:17.079 --> 00:28:19.160
They were the first club show I ever went to

474
00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:19.839
in my life.

475
00:28:20.200 --> 00:28:23.160
You know, Like you talk about Madison Square Garden, I

476
00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:26.759
saw beatle Maniat now Mason Square Garden. I never got

477
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:29.079
to see Kiss there when I was a kid. I

478
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:30.599
saw them there as an adult.

479
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:33.119
I was so bummed. I always wanted to go, but

480
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:33.839
never did.

481
00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:38.559
But yeah, I mean, like, it's so funny because I

482
00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:42.279
have both the East Coast the West Coast version of

483
00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:45.640
everything that happened. And I always laugh when people from

484
00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:49.240
Jersey say, yeah, Metallica is from Jersey, and like, yeah,

485
00:28:50.359 --> 00:28:53.200
after they were from the Bay Area, after they were from.

486
00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:58.000
La Metallic is not from Jersey. Who sends Metallica's from Jersey.

487
00:28:58.519 --> 00:29:02.319
A lot of you know, of the Old Bridge militia people,

488
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:05.359
not the people that are the big people, like the

489
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:09.200
people that weren't that much in the scene. They all

490
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:12.799
like you, I see them at festivals and they're like, yeah,

491
00:29:13.000 --> 00:29:15.880
I remember why I saw them Metallica when they because

492
00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:19.359
they were originally from Jersey and that that's what they say.

493
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:20.799
Like because they did.

494
00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:24.799
If you watch there's a a documentary I did an

495
00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:28.039
interview and if you check out this documentary, it's called

496
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:29.079
The Jersey Sound.

497
00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:30.240
If you haven't seen.

498
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:31.519
It, oh yeah yeah yeah.

499
00:29:31.559 --> 00:29:33.720
So in there it even talks about that.

500
00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:36.880
It talks about that, like Jerseys from the I mean

501
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:39.359
Metallica wes from the Bay Area, but they were also

502
00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:44.440
from Jersey only because Johnny Z, you know, is the

503
00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:46.160
only one that record.

504
00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:48.079
I used to go to Rock and Roll Heaven as

505
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:49.960
a kid. That's where I would get all my stuff,

506
00:29:50.119 --> 00:29:51.079
like everywhere right.

507
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:53.680
Now, See how's this?

508
00:29:54.759 --> 00:29:57.039
Me and my friends used to go in the valley

509
00:29:57.079 --> 00:30:02.200
to this record store called OZ Records, Okay, and there

510
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:06.400
was a store clerk there that we became friendly with,

511
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:09.079
and we would go in and he would recommend all

512
00:30:09.079 --> 00:30:11.079
these bands, so it's oh, you got to check out

513
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:13.960
this album. First one he showed me was Venom Welcome

514
00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:16.880
to hell, you know. And then and then he's showing

515
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:20.880
us Metallica and he's showing us you know, bitch, and

516
00:30:20.920 --> 00:30:26.519
he's showing us like all these la local bands.

517
00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:29.680
He was Brian Slagel.

518
00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:34.319
Yeah, so I went up to him a few years

519
00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:37.799
ago like, I'm like, that was the most brilliant marketing

520
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:42.720
move ever because he just started the label while he

521
00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:47.440
was a record Clerks Records, and he's like, yeah, I

522
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:48.720
don't think it was brilliant.

523
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:51.359
It was just I was just a record store clerk,

524
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:53.400
Like he was totally about it.

525
00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:56.599
But it was like looking what he built that you know,

526
00:30:57.319 --> 00:31:00.559
you never had, Like where could metal gets signed on

527
00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:05.079
if it weren't for those two people, Brian's slag and Meg.

528
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:06.720
Yeah.

529
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:10.240
I remember Johnny Z. The first albums he recommended to me.

530
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:15.960
He did Annville Medal and uh he had all these

531
00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:17.359
Australian imports.

532
00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:19.000
Of ac DC. So I would get these like, wow,

533
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:23.920
you see DC albums that would just collect and uh

534
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:25.839
what else Angel which.

535
00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:28.079
That was ad?

536
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:31.480
What else? What else?

537
00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:34.880
You know? What the band is playing that hasn't played

538
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:38.160
in twenty eight years in festivals that I covered this year,

539
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:43.480
Acid Bath. I'm gonna remember that name that goes, wait,

540
00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:45.279
that's like twenty eight years ago.

541
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:47.160
It's like around.

542
00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:51.160
The the time when your first one was your debut

543
00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:55.079
was huh, so you're kind of like in line there.

544
00:31:58.079 --> 00:32:00.000
Yeah, that so many.

545
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:04.000
Cool memories and look at where we are today, and

546
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:09.119
it's like, it's great that you can come back make

547
00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:11.680
an album like this, and I think it's just as

548
00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:14.319
prevalent today as it was when you did the debut.

549
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:17.599
Cool. I thank you. So one more thing.

550
00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:20.359
I'm gonna show you this we were supposed to make.

551
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:25.119
We were supposed to release a video game with everything also,

552
00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:27.759
and then at the last minute Apple flagged it and

553
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:33.359
for additional review and held it up so waiting until

554
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:34.759
they give the okay so that it could be out

555
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:38.359
there for everybody. But we made a Simon in space.

556
00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:40.160
When I say we, I mean this guy named Radi

557
00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:44.519
Grabinsky of gloomy Ware Software in Poland who has done

558
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:45.359
all this stuff.

559
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:47.880
But check this out. Let me give this.

560
00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:49.880
If I could give this a flip, will it flip?

561
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:51.480
Is there a way to flip? Or I'm just gonna

562
00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:52.799
turn it this way? Say if this will work?

563
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:54.920
All right, there we go.

564
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:01.559
So it's another way to experience the album.

565
00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:03.799
The songs. The music is.

566
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:09.400
There's the little spaceship guy from THEE the thing and.

567
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:11.559
It plays the songs.

568
00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:14.720
It plays the music, and it's like an old retro.

569
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:16.119
It looks like astroids.

570
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:19.480
Yeah, it's like one of those old space shooter games

571
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:25.039
from then. This thing starts shooting at you. Get the

572
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:30.519
coin and this one you motherfuck up, hang on, get

573
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:31.119
your coin out.

574
00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:32.319
These guys all right, got.

575
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:33.759
Them, get him, got him, get them, got them, get them,

576
00:33:33.799 --> 00:33:34.599
and they're shooting back.

577
00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:35.599
All right.

578
00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:39.039
Oh I want that when comes out. I'm a gamer,

579
00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:40.880
so I definitely want that when it comes out.

580
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:41.440
Yeah.

581
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:46.839
So this thing is a free game that we're putting

582
00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:47.960
out there just.

583
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:53.000
For fun, just so people can enjoy. Just I want

584
00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:55.319
people to have fun with this ship. You know. It's

585
00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:58.400
like I want to have final that's full of art.

586
00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:01.599
We have the technology now to make a video game

587
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:04.279
that goes along with it, So put that out and

588
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:08.280
just have it be an enjoyable experience with people as

589
00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:11.960
many ways as possible. So it's not just the thing

590
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:14.800
of oh ye, just put out a piece of music

591
00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:18.519
like I shot it out. Nor remember when he put

592
00:34:18.559 --> 00:34:21.159
out that album and this and this and this and this,

593
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:23.320
like let it be an experienced the way it used

594
00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:23.599
to be.

595
00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:28.159
Yeah, if I was a teenager now in those times,

596
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:32.519
like I would totally get this stuff because of all that,

597
00:34:33.079 --> 00:34:36.280
Like I wouldn't even have to know what it sounded like. Yeah,

598
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:41.039
and you usually did it so but it usually came

599
00:34:41.079 --> 00:34:46.239
out okay, you know. So that's what counts, and well

600
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:49.199
is it? Can you tell everybody how they can also

601
00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:52.199
reach out to you on the web, on socials.

602
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:54.519
On your merch store because you have a killer merch store.

603
00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:56.800
Oh thank you. Yeah, that's a good friend of mine.

604
00:34:56.880 --> 00:35:01.880
Jason Leckberg he made that happen. He's got this company

605
00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:03.800
and he helps. He works with a lot of bands.

606
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:07.400
It works with Guar, He works with Steele Panther, and

607
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:11.199
he does great stuff. He got me organized and functional

608
00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:16.000
and made that web store and the website and everything.

609
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:22.280
So yes, bumblefoot dot com. So there's all this stuff

610
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:27.639
and merch bundles. And I did a discography section. It

611
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:33.000
took weeks where I took everything I could recall ever

612
00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:36.360
playing on and made a list of like all the

613
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:40.039
guest appearances with links to everybody's music and all the

614
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:42.519
albums and all the video games and all the TV

615
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:44.119
shows and horror movies and whatever.

616
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:46.440
It is, so a really.

617
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:50.480
Good discography section, a lot of music and other people's

618
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:53.519
music to check out, like the produced bisection has a

619
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:56.639
lot of interesting on this on there. Yeah, he got

620
00:35:56.679 --> 00:36:01.440
all the merchant there now Deco Records Deco Entertainment teamed

621
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:03.360
up with them where they're going to handle all the

622
00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:06.760
physical retail stuff. So if you go to Newberry Comics

623
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:09.000
or Miba and you say, hey, do you have the

624
00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:12.119
Bumblefoot vinyl? They can say no, but I can get

625
00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:14.800
it for you. And thanks to Deco it's going to

626
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:15.519
be available.

627
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:17.320
I love and they are.

628
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:20.039
I think they have a partnership with Cargo Records in

629
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:25.239
the UK, so people in the UK and Europe should

630
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:28.239
be able to get it from them. So that's pretty

631
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:31.119
much it. Go to Bumblefoot dot com, go to Deco

632
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:36.159
Entertainment dot com and you can get a whole lot

633
00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:37.480
of bumble stuff.

634
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.159
Yeah, nice it is.

635
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:42.679
I went there and it's like, wow, there is a

636
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:46.039
lot of cool stuff there. Pit bulls and that's the

637
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:48.199
way you have to support artists nowadays.

638
00:36:48.239 --> 00:36:50.440
Okay, it's not like the old days.

639
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:54.599
You know, buy their merch If they don't buy your

640
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:56.440
merch they can't watch my show.

641
00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:00.599
Well, yeah, it's true.

642
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:04.719
Like these days, it is a direct relationship artists and

643
00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:08.440
fans and the artists they make the music, and if

644
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:11.639
the fans value what they're doing and like what they're doing,

645
00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:14.840
they're going to give their support. And it's this beautiful,

646
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:17.039
just direct symbiotic relationship.

647
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:17.599
It's nice.

648
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:20.639
I'm don't want of middleman anymore. Yeah, there you go,

649
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:24.639
and shouldn't have one ever. And you know you're giving

650
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:31.320
us such great therapy, not just music therapy that you know.

651
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:37.840
I think it's just in kind symbiotic to you know, support,

652
00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:41.079
and it's better off to support directly to the artists.

653
00:37:41.920 --> 00:37:42.400
Very cool.

654
00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:50.599
Well, you rock literally literally this album. This album definitely

655
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:55.559
rocks like it is to me. It's like one of

656
00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:58.760
those albums you could just sit there and listen to

657
00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:03.039
and escape all your reality and listen to an over

658
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:07.360
and over again, and it takes you on different journeys,

659
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:07.840
you know.

660
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:09.119
The best way I could.

661
00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:12.280
Describe it out means sound wise, but that same feeling

662
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:14.199
is like dark side of them.

663
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:18.159
Oh wow, thank you shit, thank you so much.

664
00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:21.760
Hey, my pleasure, and thank you for making us great

665
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:26.400
music for man a lifetime does that blow your mind or.

666
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:31.039
What blows my mind? That I'm fifty five years old now?

667
00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:36.400
And yeah, we're from the same world.

668
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:43.559
Right, eight grandkids, Like I have eight grandkids. I have

669
00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:47.440
taken my kids and my grandkids into their first mosh pits.

670
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:52.559
Ever, Oh that is so cool, right, how old are they?

671
00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:57.039
My son, I'm trying to think how old he was.

672
00:38:57.079 --> 00:38:58.679
He was probably like eight or nine.

673
00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:01.000
Yeah, I'm pictured like little.

674
00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:06.599
We were at Tattoo the Earth Tour with Matt Metallican

675
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:07.559
slip Knot.

676
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:12.440
It was at Giant Stadium and slip.

677
00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:14.119
Knot was about to come on, and so I kind

678
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:16.159
of explained to him what was going to happen, Like

679
00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:19.119
we were front and center, and I was like, listen,

680
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:24.639
people are gonna start shoving. You don't get mad, just

681
00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:26.119
go with it.

682
00:39:26.119 --> 00:39:28.320
It's not about hurting or naming anybody.

683
00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:31.239
It's just about getting all your crap out and having

684
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:36.440
a good time. And so when and when they first

685
00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:39.440
came on and it first started, I saw he was

686
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:41.760
getting pissed first, like he was about to like knock

687
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:46.360
somebody out, and I was just like, chill out, relax,

688
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:49.119
just you know, shove him back. Next thing though, like

689
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:52.480
thirty seconds later, grin ear to ear and like the

690
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:57.239
baton has been passed. And then and then I have

691
00:39:57.320 --> 00:40:01.639
a couple of my grandson's. One of them I used

692
00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:03.519
to bring to a lot because I go on tour.

693
00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:06.239
I do radio coverage at a lot of festivals, all

694
00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:09.079
the Danny Wimmer festivals in the United States, I go

695
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:13.599
to UK, Europe, you know, do healthest download bloodstock, all

696
00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:19.159
those And I would bring him sometimes and he would

697
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:22.679
actually interview bands with me or they would interview him.

698
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:26.639
But then I brought him into his first mashpit. It

699
00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:30.119
was August Burns Red, Like that's pretty heavy duty to

700
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:32.800
go in the first time. And he had a blast

701
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:36.119
because all of the adults and I say this because

702
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:39.360
people have such a misconception of mosh pits.

703
00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:40.880
No people look out for each other.

704
00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:44.440
Yeah, all the adults were shoving him around like they

705
00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:48.440
were protecting him. They were his wall, and they were

706
00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:51.559
mashing with them. But like in hit and get down

707
00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:56.880
love with them and his level at his you know ability,

708
00:40:57.039 --> 00:41:01.559
so to speak, their strength, and it's just the experience

709
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:04.679
that you have for a lifetime. My other grandson, he's

710
00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:06.840
always now if I bring him to a show.

711
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:10.519
He's like, he's like, oh, can we go up to

712
00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:11.760
the front to the pit.

713
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:16.079
So that's some.

714
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:18.639
Good parenting and grandparenting right there.

715
00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:22.679
I think, in my opinion, cool Grandpa, because listen, we

716
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:25.440
are the coolest grew People don't know it, they think

717
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:28.000
what they want to think, but we're one big family.

718
00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:32.719
Nobody's an outsider, you know. Everybody can just be themselves.

719
00:41:33.039 --> 00:41:37.000
There's no bullshit like there is everywhere else in the world,

720
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:40.039
and we take care of each other and it's just

721
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:41.039
great therapy.

722
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:44.840
Yeah, so well said.

723
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:47.360
Thank you for being a big part of that, and

724
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:49.440
thanks for being on the Adventures of pipe Man.

725
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:51.960
Thank you so much. I appreciate you.

726
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:53.519
Thank you my pleasure.

727
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:58.840
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of pipe Man.

728
00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:11.280
I'm just w for c u I Radio. Hello everybody,

729
00:42:11.320 --> 00:42:13.840
this is run bumblefoot Fall and you're listening to the

730
00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:19.639
pipemin on W four c Y Radio. Yeah.