Jan. 9, 2025

Female Fronted Rock Band Clozure Signed With Wake Up! Music Rocks! and New Single

Following their October tour with Fozzy, rock band Clozure has thrilling news to share! They’ve signed with Wake Up! Music Rocks! and are set to release a new single, "Criminal Mind." Keep an ear out—this is just the beginning of what promises to be...

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Following their October tour with Fozzy, rock band Clozure has thrilling news to share! They’ve signed with Wake Up! Music Rocks! and are set to release a new single, "Criminal Mind." Keep an ear out—this is just the beginning of what promises to be an exciting new chapter for Clozure!

CloZure is a high energy rock band that started out of South Alabama in early 2012 to fill a heavy rock niche that the South-East Alabama area lacked. The band has moved on to develop an ever evolving full-on rock show that they work hard to make a memorable experience, for each and every fan.

In late 2023 CloZure experienced some dynamic line-up changes, adding Nikollaj and Zack, which transformed the dynamics to a female fronted powerhouse of a band. Following those changes, November sent CloZure to 1979 Studios in Nashville, TN to record four new singles with the Grammy winning producer Malcolm Springer. Two of those singles, “The Devil Effect”, and “Nevermore” have since been released and well received . Those releases were quickly followed by a well crafted cover of Evanescence’s “Bring me to Life” which is still growing fans.

CloZure has had a great 2024 being newly signed to Wake Up Music who saw the potential in the band followed by Full Circle Media picking up the band. These new additions added fuel to the forge completing a near unstoppable team with a brand new single “Criminal Mind”!

"We’re just getting started!”

CloZure is poudly sponsored by WBGear, InTuneGP, Red Cymbals, WB Gear, BASN, RailHammer Pickups, SIT Strings, SJC Drums and Scorpion Percussion.

CloZure is:
Michael Cordle (Lead Guitar)
Nikollaj Lleshi (Lead Vocals)
Matthew Russell (Rhythm Guitars)
Michael McCann (Drums)
Zack Taylor (Bass)

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your host, the pipe Man, re.

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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe

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Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm here with

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our next guest. Who are some killer musicians from the

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band Closure. How are you?

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What's up?

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Man?

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Thanks for having us.

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Hey, my pleasure, My pleasure, and that uh you know,

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I think I have a little criminal mind here.

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Yeah, buddy, we all.

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Tell us about that song. That's a new song. Like

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you guys, you were on tour with Fozzy and then

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you come off you have some exciting news that I'll

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let you share and then boom a new single. Mm hmm,

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let's hear it.

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Well, really, Zach's gonna be doing about six minds not yeah,

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bu but but seriously, Yeah, it's it's a.

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It's a great song.

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It's on the first four that we actually recorded, going

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into our last EP, last one we released were we

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recorded the video mostly in New York City, which is

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a blast. There's a lot of fun. Oh yeah, up

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in there.

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And where And you guys are from South Alabama, right.

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Yes, we are from South Alabama. So yeah.

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First of all, I want to say, my daughter lives

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in the Panhandle, and I always joke that because I

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live in South Florida. I always joke, like, you don't

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live in Florida, you live in South Alabama.

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But City Beach is like maybe an hour and forty

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minutes from us.

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So she lives near Navarre Beach in Dustin, so like

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it's kind of like right over the border there, and

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you know, as somebody that's from South Florida, I go there,

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I do feel more like I'm in Alabama in Florida,

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especially when it gets toy degrees because you know, I'm

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down here in South Florida and people right now it's

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in the fifties, are wearing ski jackets and scarves and

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like we wish I'm like, you look ridiculous, Okay, but

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h yeah, I'm now. I'm born New York. Were up

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in Jersey, So coming from Alabama New York a little

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bit of a culture shock? Was it a little bit

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of a culture shock being in New York.

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I'm going to be on I don't think any of

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us expected to like New York City as much as

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we did, really.

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Right, Yeah, everybody's got to go to New York because

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everybody has this conception, especially if you're from the South

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and you don't want to go there. There were even

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people in Jersey like that lived up in the mountains

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a half an hour from the city, and they're like,

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I will never walk into New York City in my

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whole life. Like, try it, you may like it. Oh,

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I love it. Right, it's a great it's a great city.

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So yeah, tell us more about the experience of being

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there and doing all this.

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I know, we rolled into the Grammercy Theater there. That

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place is insane, right, So we ended up Oh yeah,

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that legendary venue. And uh, of course I had to

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go around try all the tourist stuff in New York

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and you know, get some pizza there all that.

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Did you know which famous rays to go to? Because

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there's like fifteen famous rays and only one of them

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is the original.

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Exactly, So I'll learned that. Uh, the pizza wasn't my vibe,

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is what I'll say. But coffee in New York City

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ruined coffee for me. It was that good nice.

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And there's this place My favorite restaurant in the whole

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world is in Little Lily And I don't know if

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you went there, but it's called Ferraras and I did not.

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Oh it's three stories with a menu Hugart in any

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restaurant that's only dessert, dang, oh wow, that's right. And

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then there's like this restaurant in the uh in the

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village that you could walk right past it and not

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even know it's there. You have to, like know, there's

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a lot of places like that in New York. Like

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you just have to know it's there now.

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See that's what you should have been up there with

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us and you could have showed us all these places.

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See, I mean, we'll have to do that next time.

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We love to do that next time. You and I

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know which se ways to go on in which not

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to go on. That's important in pro too.

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We actually do have a friend up there that actually

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took us around us from Jersey from the Jersey area.

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Great gap. He's awesome.

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He ran us around, took some pictures for us while

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he's there. He's a great photographer too. But he showed

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us a lot of good places to go to while

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we were up there. It was a great experience for us,

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for all of us.

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Oh yeah, very cool. I love it.

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But people treated us great up there.

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I mean that was I love hearing that because you know,

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so many people like to think that New Yorkers are rude,

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and maybe, yeah, maybe it was just a problem. I

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think it's just a product of their own attitude towards

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the New Yorkers, and New Yorkers are going to give

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you back what you give them. If you're nice to them,

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you are a family. If you're not, fuck you, go

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take a swim in the Hudson River. You know. We

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just like you know where you stand when you're with

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with the New Yorker, Like, you're not going to get

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the oh, bless your heart, You're gonna get the fuck you.

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Yeah, it's definitely a Southern thing with you. O bliss

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your heart.

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Oh yeah, totally. So funny story on that, Like, I

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had this really good friend, she was my co host,

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and we were out one night and she was talking

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about this other friend who was my friend, this chick

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that hung out with us, and she was talking all

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this bad shit about her, and she was a Southerner.

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And the girl walked up, and she jumped up and

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gave her a big hugging kiss like she it was

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her long lost best friend and mister New Yorker that

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I am. As soon as a girl walked away, I'm like,

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what the fuck was that? And she goes I was

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being nice. I'm like, that's not being nice. You were

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just talking shit about that girl and then acting like

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it's your best friend. It would be nice and cordial,

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just say hi, how you doing, not jump up and

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give a big hug like that's, you know, your favorite

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person in the universe. Well, that's just how I was

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brought up. Well, we were brought up to let piece.

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We were brought up that if you can say it

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behind their backs, say it to their face.

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That's my motto. Man, if I'll say it about you,

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I'll put ten toes on the ground and say it

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right to you too.

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I'll say it to you first before I'll before I'll

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say it to anybody else. You know. So tell me

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more about your music or the listeners I know about

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your music. You're badass. But if they haven't heard Closure before,

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why should they listen to Closure? And why should they

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catch one of your live shows?

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If you want to feel emotion with your music and

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feel like the people that are performing it for you

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really feel what they're doing. Come see this because the

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best part of the music is connecting with the audience.

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That and it's honestly just a good time man. I mean,

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my favorite part of the live show is just partying

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with the front.

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Row, you know what I mean? See that if you

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come to.

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Me with some wild ship just right there in the pit, like,

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that's what you're gonna get back from me, you know

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what I mean?

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I love it.

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I'm gonna riley you up as much as I can,

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just because I think it's fun.

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He's been known to sacrifice himself falling off something, so

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it's all right.

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So so I actually I'm infamous from La metal scene.

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I knocked out my teeth. I ended a show by

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I got up on stage. The security was chasing me,

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so I climbed up. I climbed up on the Marshall

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stack and dove and I was full swan midair in

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the crowd, move like the like the Red Sea it parted.

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I was midair. I know what the fuck to do?

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Just going down in slow motion at Yeah.

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So to this day, I still go into mash bits.

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You'll never catch me stage dive or crowd surf people enough,

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you know, but exactly. But I love what you're saying too,

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like about the whole thing of connecting. Like to me,

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when I look at band perform live, I can tell

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if they're just going through the motions or if they're

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having a good time. And I want band that's having

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a good time. Like. You're in the wrong fucking business

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if you're if you're a musician and you're not having fun,

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because there's nothing else fun about it besides to being

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a musician. Exactly.

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If you don't feel what you're playing and what you're

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putting out to other people out there in the crowd,

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then why are you doing it?

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Exactly exactly, and it does. It's a transfer of emotion.

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To me, music's the best therapy there is.

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It is, so it really is.

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The crowd is feeling you feel it, then you know,

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to me, that means that's great music and great a

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great live show.

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I agree, that's agreed, definitely.

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Oh yeah, And I think I've said this before too.

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I think that's why people got so angry and attacking

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after the COVID lockdown, because we didn't have a live

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music to release all those emotions. I would agree with

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that because it is emotions, you know, and like, how

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can you be a musician and not be emotional? That

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to me, that does not compute.

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Well, there's some out there, but you know it's right.

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And then okay, so there's somebody I won't mention who,

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but there's somebody I knew in my life that she

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did not like music at all, any music. It didn't

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I don't trust somebody it doesn't like any music. You

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don't have to like my music. But you know, I

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think everybody needs music. And she was the perfect example

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because she was a very you know, like mister Spock

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type of person. Yeah, you know, yeah, I guess what.

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She was a therapist, So that makes it even more

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that she was probably a serial killer. Most therapists are

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crazier than the people are trying to give. Oh man, uh,

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I mean, just look at Harley Quinn. Who's the love

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of my life. She's the love of my life. She

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is that shit crazy. I wanted to be my therapist.

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You know.

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Well, I got to say in their defense, I couldn't

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listen to a lot of the stories that they're told.

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For my whole life as a job and not be

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a little off m M.

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I mean, of course, like listen, I am that person

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in my personal life. I don't get paid for it,

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but people always came to me since I'm young and

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like that after a while hearing all that ship and

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you got your own negative ship. But I have coping

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skills for my negative ship. And then when you feel

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like these people, you try to get them out of it.

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You know, they're just it gets exhausting.

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See, that's a big thing on tour because I'll have

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We'll have like especially because I like to hang out

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in the crowd after the show. It's just it's fun

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to me to go see all the fans and just

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really get one on one time with them. And that's

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like the most rewarding shit in the world to me

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is whenever I'll have a fan be like, dude, I'm

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not gonna lie like I got lost in y'all show

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and just let go of all the stress and bullshit,

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which like that's why I'm fucking doing this, man, Like

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if if what I'm doing up there and me just

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looking like a fucking googer and playing my songs and

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having a good time makes your life a fucking brighter

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place for even just during that song, like I won

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at that point, you know what I mean?

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That should be the goal. That should be the goal

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right there. And you know, I love that you go

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out in the crowd because like, okay, so i do

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media at all these festivals, and after I'm done being

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back stage all day during the interviews, I want to

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go out in the crowd. Like listen, I did backstage

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in the eighties at Sunset Strip Days, and I've done

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backstage today. People ask me about going backstage, I'm like,

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you don't want to go backstage. There's nothing going on,

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you know place No, it was back in the day,

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but not anymore, like you know, and people want you

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to bring him up side stage. I'm like, dude, there's

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a reason I an artists go out to front of

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house because side stage does not sound good, you know,

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And it is cool. Like some of the artists I'm

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friends with, they'll be out, I'll be out with them

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watching And what I really love is when people don't

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even notice and he could they could just sit and

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chill and watching it. And like I've been out with

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Chris motionless and like without his makeup, on, so nobody

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notice I've been. I've been even hung out, like at

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when they used to do the Dimebag Bash. I hung

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out with Gwar at the bar and nobody knew it

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was them. I wonder why I know, and I joke

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with them and I'm like, yeah, it's a good idea.

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You wear the costumes, you look much better in the car.

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It was even funny at one festival. Okay, so obviously

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when it's out in the media area and they're wearing

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their costumes, the only time it's not costumes is it's

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back in their dressing room. But one time they were

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coming out and they were bringing blowth are out and

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the planes as you well know, like they didn't bring

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their costumes. So the tour manager says, hey, you know,

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do you still want Yeah, of course I still want to. Okay,

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I'll send them out, you know, and like just you know,

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and I'm like, you don't have to tell me. I

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know how to play the game. I'm a pro. But

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it was so funny. The photographer that was sitting right

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across from me, he had like some gummy bears on

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the table. So I'm interviewing and he totally if you

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were paying attention, you would totally know it's Blowthart because

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during the interview he's talking like Blowthart, not like himself,

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you know, And so he goes he's having fun with it.

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To photographer, he's like, hey, he starts pointing at the

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gummy bears? Give me? Does give me? Does give me

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a gummy bears? Just like and no clue gave a begun,

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had no clue it was Blowthar to that point. I

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had another experience at the same festival where I was

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interviewing Karia and they also are costumed, but I never

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saw him without. So the female I'm just sitting there

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bullshitting with her, like it's before the interview, and she's

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standing over there a bullsham where we're just having this

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whole conversation. Then she goes, hey, do you know where

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pipe man is? And I'm his next interview and I

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was like, oh, that's me.

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Oh yeah, the interview started fifteen minutes ago we were recording.

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I know, right, but yeah, I mean so I love

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shit like that though, and I you know, people don't

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realize the feeling like I'm sure you get a lot.

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I get it a lot, Like people like how can

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you live like that, you're never home, like cause all

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my friends are out there. Home actually sucks. I come

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home and I'm like, I don't know what to do

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and I'm depressing. I seclude in my place for at

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least a week after being out.

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Exactly, Well, it goes back to you enjoyed doing what

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you do, so why not do what you do more often?

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Because exactly, and you're your people, you know, because when

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you do things that you enjoy, you're around other people

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that also enjoy them. So ye. And it's funny too

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because it's like I'll bring some of my kids to festivals,

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my youngest or I'll bring our festivals and you know,

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it will be a four day festival, and halfway through

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the first day she's like, Dad, I don't know how

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you do this. Every weekend I'm already done, and like

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I'm like, I don't even know how. I don't you know,

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because it's just you have to have a passion for it.

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It's just like, if you love it, there is nothing

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else you'd rather do.

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No doubt about it. And then like even with press

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people like especially if you're dealing with rock or metal bands,

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like you better be into that shit. Like I watch

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other press people that shouldn't be there, and I want

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I'm like, if I were the band, I'd be slipping

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my throat right now. You know, they're reading some script

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and you know, like, so yeah it shows here, blah

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blah blah. Dude, these people aren't about that. That's the

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most boring fucking part of their job. They're musicians. Make

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it fun for them, because this is fucking treachery, you know,

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Then make it like the business part of it, you know,

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just have a good time and have a conversation and

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may and find out what they're passionate about, and then

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they'll talk.

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Well, that's the thing for you as an interviewer. You're

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gonna pull more out of us to do it that

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way than you are just with the simple scripted.

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So the questions that are already out there that nobody

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gives a shit about, that you've had to answer a

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million times, you know, like yeah, right, Dan Spitz of Anticks,

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who's like one of my best friends. He he says,

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I wish they would have asked me what condition skin

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conditioner I used on tour, And he was making a

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point of how ridiculous all these questions were, like how

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many times can you answer how do you get your

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band name? And who fucking cares? Anyway? Okay, Like there's

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sometimes there's a good story about it that maybe you

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want to talk about because it's cool. But most of

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the time it's just a stupid question that means nothing.

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So great story on that one, August Burns read, I

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said that before the interview. I say that all the

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time before the interview, and I'll ask stupid questions like that.

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If it's in Wikipedia, I don't ask, you know, it

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tore out there and they go, well.

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You're Wikipedia. I think we do.

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Actually, it's probably all wrong. I'm gonna definitely I know right,

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That's what I would do if I was an artist.

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I would just make up a bunch of shit to

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fuck with people. And then that's what August Burns Red

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does because they said, lucky for you, because we fuck

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with everybody that asks us that question. We come up

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with a new story every time, one worse than the next,

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and we keep a total straight face. You see that

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girl next to you, I think we made her cry

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because she asked us how we got our band name.

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So we were like, well, we got this, my sister

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got this, dog when we were teenagers, and she named

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it August. And one day, one day were out front,

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playing in the street, hanging out, and we were we

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decided it would be funny to like August on fire

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and watch them run down the street. August earns red

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and right, and they're right, they're like, And you said

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it with a total straight face, and you had to

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see the look of horror on her face. And I'm like,

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I'm like, you know what, I would do the same ship.

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Like I'm from the northeast, sarcasm and that ship and

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fucking with people's my second language. So you know, I mean, like,

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if you're gonna keep doing that stupid ship and not

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learn your job, I'm gonna fuck with you, you know.

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So yeah, now let's ask you then, what is the

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absolute worst interview question you guys ever got that? You're

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like fucking wanted to slit your throat.

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I think there was somebody that asks us what we

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thought we should do about all of the uh political situation. Uh,

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And I've never seen this guy pivot. So because we

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do not religion or politics, we just don't do it.

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And somebody's gonna get frustrated either way. Yeah, yeah, I

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don't really have an opinion, so.

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We just wetry we stray away. But anyway, as soon

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as the question gets asked, I just see, I see Cordal,

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just go. I think Closure has some really good music

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we're about to record.

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And I'm just like nice.

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It's the hardest turn I've ever seen.

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I love it though, because like it's so stupid. We're

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falling for an oldest trick in the book. Like you

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were taught don't talk politics, don't talk religion. Nothing good

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comes out of it. And you don't tell people who

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you vote for. It's your own personal right. Now. People

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act like you're like in prison, and guys show your

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packet and like, you know, tell me who you vote for,

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and they don't like what we're doing. And I'm like,

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fuck you, it's not your business. And you know we're

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picking these people like their rock stars, like they don't

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give two ships about us. As far as I'm concerned,

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they're all on the same team. It ain't mine. Okay, Well, here's.

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The thing is, you can ask me till you're blue

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in the face. When I think about anything, I have

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no ground to stay. If you want to ask me

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about like bass tones and like writing basslines to float

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between the drums and rhythm guitar. I'm qualified to speak

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on that. I can tell you all. I can tell

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you about it.

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Yeah, but I don't have a.

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Damn political science degree. Why does it matter what I think?

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Yeah?

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Most of these people that are talking to most about

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don't know. So I agree with you. I love it,

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and I'd much rather talk about music. Music's much more

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positive subject and music it makes you feel good, and

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so it's your music. So now, what's the best interview

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question you ever got?

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Ooh, that's tough.

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Yeah, see there's a tough one.

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Ooh, that's good.

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It's always easy to find the negative. It's not always

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easy to find the positive. That's why it is so

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much better.

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I'm trying to think here, maybe, uh, how do we

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make everything work on a bus with five different people?

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Oh?

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Yeah, that was an interesting one.

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Yeah, that is a good one, especially with chicks.

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Oh yeah, you know, it's just the whole band. We're

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really tight knit, we're really good friends.

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That's so important.

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Venues and you can you can, you can put us

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on a timer where about every twenty minutes, no matter

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where in the venue we go, We'll all find a

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table to circle back to and start gravitating towards where

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everybody enclosure is going to be hanging out.

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With each other. Nice.

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Yeah, and.

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Is it's a road trip with my best friends? Man,

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Like that's.

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The only way it should be. Like, how could you

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ever survive being in a band with people you don't like?

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I don't get that like it because this is like

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your fan you got to be with all the time. Yeah,

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that takes.

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All the fun of it.

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And at that point, like I said, you're just going

450
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through the motions, and people can see that when you're

451
00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:31.200
on stage, when you're just going through the motions. Yeah,

452
00:24:31.400 --> 00:24:34.079
and you know with a bunch of bands, but you

453
00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:36.160
see it when they're really enjoying themselves too, And that's

454
00:24:36.200 --> 00:24:37.880
what we always try to bring to the take.

455
00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:42.240
And you know how I see bands that once they

456
00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:46.079
get off stage, like they totally separate for the rest

457
00:24:46.119 --> 00:24:49.359
of the time and they're never together on thinking that's

458
00:24:49.400 --> 00:24:51.960
not a good recipe for lung jeopany for sure.

459
00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:55.079
No, it's nice, you know. I mean, we'll get cleaned

460
00:24:55.160 --> 00:24:56.720
up quick, come back down to the merch table and

461
00:24:56.759 --> 00:24:58.759
go hang out in the crowd. Because we've toured with

462
00:24:58.799 --> 00:25:00.599
some great bands and it's awesome go back out and

463
00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:02.359
watch them when they come on. If we're opening up

464
00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:05.359
for him, and it's cool going out there too, And

465
00:25:05.640 --> 00:25:07.920
like you talked about it, you'll go out there before

466
00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:09.920
a show and you'll hang out and you'll see people

467
00:25:09.960 --> 00:25:11.319
because we're always out in the out of the crowd,

468
00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:13.200
and all before the show, we'll have a drink with

469
00:25:13.240 --> 00:25:15.400
somebody or whatever else, you know, just talking crap about

470
00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:17.119
different stuff and all. Then we'll go out, we'll go perform,

471
00:25:17.160 --> 00:25:19.319
and we'll come back out and it's cool because they

472
00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:21.200
see you, like standing beside them, jamming to the next

473
00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:23.480
band up, drinking a beer or whatever else and they're like,

474
00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:25.759
oh hey, we're like yeah, it's a good band.

475
00:25:25.480 --> 00:25:28.000
A lot of times you get the double take where they'll.

476
00:25:27.839 --> 00:25:34.160
Go right, so that happened to me, Okay, that happened

477
00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:38.759
to be all right. Ready, I'm at this festival, Okachobee fest, Okay,

478
00:25:39.400 --> 00:25:43.119
and there I don't know, there's over one hundred thousand

479
00:25:43.119 --> 00:25:47.440
people there, and I am like dead center in the crowd,

480
00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:49.640
Like my interviews are done and all, so I'm just

481
00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:52.200
enjoying it and I'm like dead center in the crowd,

482
00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:56.000
like in a sardine can and I look next to me,

483
00:25:56.160 --> 00:26:00.960
I'm like, no, can't be no. It was Caral from

484
00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:06.319
The Walking Dead. Fucking Carl from the Walking Dead was

485
00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:10.759
sending next to me at this show, and it was

486
00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:13.559
like just it was that double take because it was

487
00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:17.240
like it just didn't see we were like deep in it.

488
00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:20.319
We were like in the deep woods of the crowd,

489
00:26:20.480 --> 00:26:25.240
you know, and like, so that's the cool shit about that.

490
00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:29.400
That's what I love about festival life, you know, the community.

491
00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:34.640
It's it's fun, like it's not work, Like, Okay, I

492
00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:38.079
have many parts of my job, you know, doing what

493
00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:42.759
I do, festival is like the fun part. That's like

494
00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:48.559
the that's like the reward, you know, and you know,

495
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:54.839
it's I don't get how people cannot get that energy,

496
00:26:54.960 --> 00:26:58.799
you know, like is the ultimate unititer. It's the ultimate

497
00:26:58.839 --> 00:27:01.920
place that you can just get away from everything. We

498
00:27:01.960 --> 00:27:04.079
don't have to worry about politics, We don't have to

499
00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:07.559
worry about the bullshit in the world. You just go

500
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:09.759
and have a good time. Which speaking a good time.

501
00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:12.119
How was it touring with Fozzy because he's a cool

502
00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:14.119
cat man. Oh that was awesome.

503
00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:16.759
It was fun. We really had a good time. I mean,

504
00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:20.799
I've been watching the dude Rich play guitar forever in

505
00:27:20.839 --> 00:27:27.319
a day. I saw PJ since years ago with since

506
00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:31.599
he had hair, back in the day when they were

507
00:27:31.640 --> 00:27:32.880
torn with Warrant, I saw them once.

508
00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:33.720
Nice.

509
00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:36.480
Yeah, it's so, it's really great. It's like me, it's

510
00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:38.599
like getting a chance to meet up with your your

511
00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:41.240
heroes from whenever you're younger with a cool posters on

512
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:42.039
the wall and all.

513
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:46.440
Cool and you can hang out with that, you know,

514
00:27:46.759 --> 00:27:49.279
And like, I think that's important too. When you're on

515
00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:52.000
tour with bands, the bands have to get along, like

516
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:54.720
it's not even just within your own band. You gotta

517
00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:56.440
have fun and stuff like that.

518
00:27:56.559 --> 00:28:00.119
You know, Well, that whole industry is about the hang dude.

519
00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:01.960
If I'm gonna work with you and tour with you

520
00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:04.440
for a month, like please, it would be cool.

521
00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:05.920
Yeah, no doubt.

522
00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:09.680
We've been super fortunate, man, ever been we have not.

523
00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:14.039
Since I've been Enclosure for a year now, there hasn't

524
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:16.519
been that band where like they're coming into the load

525
00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:19.039
in You're just like, oh God, these fucking guys are

526
00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:20.720
here all like that hasn't happened yet.

527
00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:27.400
That's cool, I love because there are over yeah, and

528
00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:30.319
there are those bands. So I love that because there's

529
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:32.920
some festivals even the press people are like, oh fuck,

530
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:36.200
they're here. Yeah, you know type of thing, you know,

531
00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:39.440
and so that that's really cool to hear, you know,

532
00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:43.200
and what you were saying too, Okay. As a press person,

533
00:28:43.400 --> 00:28:48.640
I have this rating system of artists. There's three levels.

534
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:53.079
There's the bands down here that need all the press

535
00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:55.480
because they're just the up and comers, so they're coole

536
00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:58.440
at ship and they don't have an ego yet whatsoever.

537
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:02.240
Then there's the band way up here, the icons that

538
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:04.240
they're cool as ship because they have no clue to

539
00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:07.279
their icons. That's why they're icons, you know. They don't

540
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:10.319
give a shit about that rock star thing. And then

541
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:13.680
there's the middle ones. They're the ones that think they're

542
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:18.279
the rock stars and make that a little bit for

543
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:21.960
a brief moment, and they think they're God's gift to

544
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:24.640
everybody for the rest of eternity. Yeah.

545
00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:30.640
Yeah, there's there's that bell curve to it, to where

546
00:29:31.920 --> 00:29:34.640
every time you move up a notch in your career,

547
00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:38.880
you realize exactly how much you really don't know, yes, right,

548
00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:40.440
and you have.

549
00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:44.359
To go, yeah, that is so true. And to my point,

550
00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:48.079
where I was saying that there, it's funny they're playing

551
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:50.599
a festival this year, but it's weird to me because

552
00:29:50.599 --> 00:29:53.839
to me, they really don't exist now. But I interviewed

553
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:58.799
Skinnard a few times and they they were the most

554
00:29:59.160 --> 00:30:03.680
fun interview you like, they're just good old boys, laughing,

555
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:08.079
like they were laughing the whole interview. And then like,

556
00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:11.680
I have this question. I asked that a lot of

557
00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:15.000
times on the in in in person interviews, and it's

558
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:20.200
like one story, good or bad that you when For

559
00:30:20.279 --> 00:30:22.480
most bands, I say when you're eighty for skinner and

560
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:24.880
I think I had to say like ninety because Rossington

561
00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:28.640
was already there. I'm like, what story is it you're

562
00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:34.160
gonna tell? And like, without even thinking, Rossington goes, oh

563
00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:38.079
that time that we had sex with the Spice girls backstage,

564
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:40.880
and they goes, oh wait, wait, wait wait can you

565
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:48.839
edit that out? Like and so here's a band that

566
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:53.720
should have egos, should have that pretentious shit, and isn't.

567
00:30:54.119 --> 00:30:57.200
And then you take somebody else that hardly anybody ever knows,

568
00:30:57.240 --> 00:30:59.839
and they're the ones that have the pretentious you know,

569
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:00.720
I'm all that.

570
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:04.480
Oh yeah, yeah.

571
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:06.759
So I could see I could see you guys touring

572
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:09.440
with skinnered. Actually that would probably be a good time.

573
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:13.920
Well there their keyboard player actually mastered our last four

574
00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:15.839
songs that we did. Peter key Peter.

575
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:20.480
Wow, yeah night. See, so that might happen, you know,

576
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:21.880
So there you go.

577
00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:25.039
We'll see they're kind of big for it.

578
00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:29.759
Yeah, but you know what, it would be fun. So

579
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:32.759
what else you got going on twenty twenty five you

580
00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:34.440
want the listeners to know about.

581
00:31:35.640 --> 00:31:38.039
We got some tour announcements coming here pretty soon, not

582
00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:39.599
just yet, but here pretty.

583
00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:44.680
Good they find out about that, say that again.

584
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:47.359
Oh, it'll be all over every social everything.

585
00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:47.640
Man.

586
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:51.119
Ye when we puts we're damn proud of them.

587
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:53.400
So how they connect to you guys on socials, on

588
00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:56.000
the web, go your merch store, all that good stuff.

589
00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:04.200
We're official closure on everything. So that's Instagram, TikTok, threads, YouTube, Facebook,

590
00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:08.079
Our website is official closure dot com ye dot com,

591
00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:11.039
and I mean if you go to OnlyFans, it's official closure.

592
00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:12.960
Unfortunately it's me, not the singer.

593
00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:16.079
Yep ye, I haven't made anything. We had some people

594
00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:18.240
actually ask for their so.

595
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:22.880
You know what's funny. The calendar, You know what it's funny.

596
00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:26.200
There is a pipe Man only fans. I just took

597
00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:30.000
all my twenty twenty four content down and I'm gonna

598
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:32.680
so what I did originally is I had these hot

599
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:35.799
co hosts that we're posting stuff on it. But then

600
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:38.519
what I really wanted to do because I did this thing.

601
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:40.720
I call it the pipe Man Radio Tour because every

602
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:46.640
year I go on tour from like April till November,

603
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:50.839
you know, with little spots afterwards, but basically it's the

604
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:56.400
off season, you know. And so my thing is to

605
00:32:56.559 --> 00:33:00.799
document the whole all the whole festival who were on

606
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:04.920
only fans, like all the outage ship and stuff like that,

607
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:07.960
because who else is doing that in part? Now?

608
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:09.720
This is our question for you right now?

609
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:12.440
Sure question here? Absolutely? I love.

610
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:15.200
How did you get the name of the pipemin.

611
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:17.960
That's the number one ask question of me. It's like

612
00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:19.279
asking me my band name.

613
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:20.519
No, I want to be.

614
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:27.160
Okay, okay, so he's going with us though my last name. No,

615
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:29.839
I'll tell you the truth. My last it's a story.

616
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:33.920
Actually my last name is Piper, and so it was

617
00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:36.319
a nickname way back, you know, when I was younger.

618
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:39.000
People just said it and kind of stuck and then

619
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:43.759
went away for a long time, and uh, I'm a

620
00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:47.799
motivational speaker too. So originally my radio show was just

621
00:33:48.119 --> 00:33:52.799
that kind of stuff, you know, like it wasn't anything

622
00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:58.279
that was shock jockish, which is now, and it wasn't

623
00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:02.240
even much music, like music is my passion outside of

624
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:06.839
work type of thing. And so then I did this

625
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:11.639
relationship show and I created it. I I by collecting

626
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:14.519
co host to fit every type of person. So I

627
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:18.719
had these two women. One of them was this conservative

628
00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:22.079
married woman that you know, lives like the total like

629
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:27.599
goodie two shoes, and then the other woman was she

630
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:29.920
was also married, but she was a Latina who was

631
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:33.760
super hot and was the epitome of the woman that's

632
00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:39.199
a player. Then me, I just made myself who was,

633
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:41.920
you know, the nice guy, you know, the guy that

634
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:48.000
always you know, gets friend zone. And then and pipe

635
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:52.840
Man don't get friend zone, by the way, Dean did, so.

636
00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:58.280
The other sound like a really bad written night right,

637
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:02.480
totally totally We'll wait you hear more.

638
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:06.360
Okay, yeah, because pipe Man has a group on too,

639
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:12.679
and so okay, and so basically the other dude was

640
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:16.119
the opinion of the player forty years old, never had

641
00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:18.519
a relationship longer in a year, doesn't go on a

642
00:35:18.559 --> 00:35:21.079
second date unless he gets sex on the first date.

643
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:25.280
And so we had all four of those perspectives on

644
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:29.960
this relationship show. But at one point he left the

645
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:33.519
show because he was going to Peru and he was

646
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:37.159
gonna go hike Manchu Pichu and stuff. So I decided,

647
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:41.480
instead of replacing him, I would just assume both roles

648
00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:45.559
because listen, being on the radio is playing a role,

649
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:49.360
just like you're on a TV show or whatever else.

650
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:53.400
Part of it's you, but it's a character that you play.

651
00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:57.400
So pipe Man's my radio monker. And that's where pipe

652
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:00.960
Man came to life when that happened, because I decided

653
00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:03.960
the alter ego was going to be pipe Man, and

654
00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:11.519
it became an interesting It became a social experiment actually, okay,

655
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:17.599
because so all your life when you're the nice guy,

656
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:21.199
you always scratch your head why these women always pick

657
00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:25.400
the jerk offs, you know, and you just never really

658
00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:29.440
understand it. Well, I got real life experiences now that

659
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:33.119
I was like, I get it now, you know. And

660
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:36.039
so pipe Man is the total opposite. Pipe Man is

661
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:40.400
the total like shock Jock makes Howard Stern look nice, okay,

662
00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:48.679
And so basically it's so funny. It works so well

663
00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:54.400
that I have divorced twice. On my show, my ex

664
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:56.880
wives are referred to as Thing one and Thing two

665
00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:02.280
and outstanding right Thing one. If you ever met her,

666
00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:05.320
she would introduce herself and say you probably know me

667
00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:10.639
as Thing one. And so when we got divorced, Thing one,

668
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:13.480
she says to me, after we're getting divorced, she's like,

669
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:15.480
I really hope you find what you're looking for. You're

670
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:17.760
like the most romantic person I ever met. I'm just

671
00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:22.079
not into that. And I was like, what the fuck

672
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:26.199
did you just say? Like and because you think that

673
00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:28.840
this is what women want and stuff like that, and

674
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.000
so you're I was flabbergasted.

675
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:32.880
If you can ever correct that code, you write a

676
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:34.639
book and you're gonna make a million dollars.

677
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:37.719
Yeah, first telling, I do have a BUTOK, I have

678
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:39.920
one book that has words in it. But I also

679
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:42.920
wrote a book Everything I Know About Women. It's two

680
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:49.559
hundred blank pages and fair enough. So now fast forward

681
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:52.679
ten years. My daughter is working for me at the

682
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:58.559
radio station and she calls my daughter and she goes,

683
00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:01.000
I was just listening to your Day That's radio show.

684
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:05.440
What happened to him? He was never the obnoxious in

685
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:07.880
twelve years I was married to him, and he's such

686
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:11.760
a player now. A month later, a month later, she

687
00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:14.280
tried to reconcile with me because she thought I was

688
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:21.599
now a player. It's a fucked up scenario, like pipe Man.

689
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:25.440
It's like it's so funny because I, you know, I'm

690
00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:30.239
I'm not even like crazy, like I have my co host,

691
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:34.400
she's Rebel Medler. If we go to festivals or stuff

692
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:38.000
and they ask her for her ID to get her badge,

693
00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:41.079
they ask her name and she says Rebel Medler. I

694
00:38:41.119 --> 00:38:43.679
look at him like, no, they're not going to give

695
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:46.679
you your press pass, giving your radio micer. It has

696
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:49.360
to be the name on your drive that is my name.

697
00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:52.199
It has to be the name on your driver's license.

698
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:57.480
You know why Why because they're not just gonna give

699
00:38:57.480 --> 00:39:00.760
a press pass out to anybody. And this is you're

700
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:03.280
not on the radio right now, whereas I'm not like

701
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:05.719
that if I meet you in real life, like I'm Dean,

702
00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:09.679
you know. But it's fucked up too because I'll meet

703
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:16.639
people in real life women, not people women, I'll meet

704
00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:22.079
them as pipe Man, and then when I do become Dean,

705
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:24.599
they just want pipe, man, I just had somebody. You

706
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:28.599
gotta love this one. You ready, okay a tender date.

707
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:32.199
We get on the phone first, didn't even make it

708
00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:37.519
to the date, and she goes, oh, I was expecting

709
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:42.360
more of a radio voice. And I'm like, what do

710
00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:45.840
you mean, Well, you're on the radio. Can you do

711
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:51.039
your radio voice for me? I'm like, this is my voice.

712
00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:54.320
I don't use a different voice for the radio. This

713
00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:58.159
is my voice. Oh, come on, do your radio voice

714
00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:02.880
for me. I'm like, I'm not there is no radio voice.

715
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:07.719
And well and the yeah, I ended the conversation because

716
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:12.000
she just wanted to be with the radio personality. Yeah,

717
00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:18.199
it's so it cracks me up sometimes it's funny. But

718
00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:22.719
how what else do we want to tell the listeners

719
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:24.159
that we haven't covered already?

720
00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:27.280
To get there some we have some great music that's

721
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:27.880
coming out.

722
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:29.559
Right now.

723
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:31.079
We're on some singles to get them out.

724
00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:35.280
Videos are ready to be uh new videos were.

725
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:37.800
Going to be coming out with in their feature, as

726
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:41.000
Zach said, we have mister Malcolm Speaker, Malcolm Springer working

727
00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:43.119
with us here. Somebody just snuck up here that you're

728
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:46.559
going to get a surprise Hello, Hello.

729
00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:52.320
She should have been there for that whole part of that.

730
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:54.199
She was busy at the time.

731
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:59.119
Sorry, she could have put her her perspective.

732
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:01.199
On the whole thing, my perspective on what thing.

733
00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:05.760
You'll have to listen to the interview and you'll find

734
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:12.199
it's just basically about Okay, So they were asking me

735
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:15.519
about how I got pipe Man. It's my radio moniker

736
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:18.639
and pipe Man is really kind of like an alter ego,

737
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:21.400
and I just gave him the whole story of how

738
00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:26.119
it developed, which was basically, you know, pipe Man is

739
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:30.519
the person I'm not. He's the player like real shock

740
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:36.960
jock ish and how it's man. Yeah, and it's funny

741
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:44.320
every artist says that they also artists in person write songs.

742
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:47.679
They write songs in the interview, and it usually has

743
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:49.400
to do it lay pipe. It's pretty funny.

744
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:53.599
But yeah, so we got a slogan here and closer man,

745
00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:55.719
it's a la pipe Mike.

746
00:41:56.960 --> 00:42:01.800
See, I'm the perfect person, like I'm your spokesperson for

747
00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:06.480
that because I'm the because I'm the pipe Man. See.

748
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:10.360
So anyway, Yeah, we find that women like the pipe

749
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:11.800
Man much better than Dean.

750
00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:15.039
Confidence.

751
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:17.760
It's definitely a confidence thing. It definitely would be like

752
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:19.440
a conversational piece.

753
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:20.960
We wass up and says, hey, I'm the pipe man.

754
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:24.760
You gotta yeah, like and why do we have that?

755
00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:29.599
See? So see it told you it's funny too. Like

756
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:32.800
I was talking about one of my co hosts. She

757
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:36.159
runs my Louisiana studio and she came down to Florida.

758
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:38.280
We were covering a puddle and mud show and it

759
00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:40.719
was me, my daughter who worked at the station her

760
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:43.360
and we walk out of a show and all these

761
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:47.320
women are like surrounding me and and Rebel, who's my

762
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:50.199
co host. She goes to my daughter, she goes, what's

763
00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:55.320
going on here? And uh, my daughter rolled her eyes sad, like, yeah,

764
00:42:55.360 --> 00:43:00.800
all the women love my dad. That's fun. But the

765
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:04.000
story that you missed, I got to repeat it for

766
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:08.239
it is my ex wife, her mother. When we got divorced.

767
00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:10.800
She was like, I really hope you find what you're

768
00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:13.800
looking for, because you're like the most romantic person I

769
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:16.000
ever met in my life. I'm just not into that.

770
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:19.760
And then pipe man is not like that at all.

771
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:23.760
So ten years later she calls my daughter and she goes,

772
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:27.199
I was just listening to your dad on his radio show,

773
00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:29.320
and what happened to him? He was never to ob

774
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:32.280
noxious in twelve years we were married. He's such a

775
00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:35.400
player now. And then she tried to reconcile with me

776
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:39.559
a month later. Yeah, because she really believed that that

777
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:41.559
character I was playing on the radio is who I

778
00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:47.199
became and thought I was a player. So that, yeah, totally,

779
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:49.920
I've now. I didn't say this to them. I have

780
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:53.079
a on my radio show. I played a commercial for

781
00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:56.840
the pipe Man group on, and it's this new bed

782
00:43:56.880 --> 00:44:02.760
and breakfast that you you know, I'll give a discount

783
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:05.840
if you call in during the show. You come to

784
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:11.320
the pipe Cave, which is where I live, and you yeah,

785
00:44:11.400 --> 00:44:17.440
like after Batman, and you service the pipe Man all

786
00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:20.920
night long, you serve me breakfast, and then you leave,

787
00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:28.639
and women call into my radio show to buy this

788
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:35.800
fake group on. That makes me laugh so hard because

789
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:38.840
it's like, oh my god, because I was saying it

790
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:42.559
became a social experiment, because you know, it really gave

791
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:49.599
me the insight of why women love players, because it's like,

792
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:53.320
oh my god, I can't believe. And you wonder why

793
00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:56.400
you get these douchebags treating you like shit. You're calling

794
00:44:56.440 --> 00:45:01.079
in for this fake groupon to basically come do whatever

795
00:45:01.159 --> 00:45:02.039
I say and then.

796
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:06.440
Leave like, you know, it's definitely like a phenomenon. I

797
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:09.519
feel like players. I mean, you're talking to me so

798
00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:12.519
like I I feel like Nikolai, which is like my

799
00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:15.960
alter ego is the exact opposite to where instead of

800
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:18.760
me going for players, I think it's me normally like

801
00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:22.440
intimidating men. I have a very like dominatrix kind of

802
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:26.000
like head bitch and charge personality.

803
00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:28.119
But I have noticed that like, oh.

804
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:30.320
I would be fucked up over that, I'd be fucked

805
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:30.760
up over.

806
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:36.199
Yeah, it's kind of like saying the same thing just reverse,

807
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:38.519
like you know, I'm and I've noticed that like if

808
00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:40.400
I do Criminal mindor when whenever we do the song

809
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:44.239
called Bourbon Street Angels, people kind of really get excited

810
00:45:44.280 --> 00:45:47.760
about the idea of the line got horns for a halo,

811
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:49.119
I'll be a Bourbon Street Angel.

812
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:55.360
Ye are like, whoa right? People are so stupid. That's

813
00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:58.880
what I always like to fake with the stuff, because hey, listen,

814
00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:03.840
I'm the same way I picked batshit crazy women. I

815
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:08.559
don't deny it, okay, And I can tell you I'm

816
00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:10.599
not making it up because I have a sign that

817
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:13.639
is on my wall in my bedroom that my two

818
00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:16.960
younger daughters bought for me and it says my next

819
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:20.920
wife won't be crazy and look at that and my aunt,

820
00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:23.719
well my answer was, yeah, I wouldn't count on that.

821
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:26.840
And the love of my life is Harley Quinn. So

822
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:31.159
what does that tell you? Not Margo, Robbie, Harley Quinn.

823
00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:36.239
You know, so we're all kind of a little fucked up.

824
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:39.719
I think just got to figure out what jagged piece

825
00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:41.039
fits what jagged piece.

826
00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:44.199
No doubt, that's what it's really all about. It's like

827
00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:48.440
I also get a lot, you know, because we were

828
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:50.920
just talking. I go on tour and I, like you

829
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:53.599
guys go on tour and I go and do radio festival,

830
00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:57.559
music festivals all over to US, UK, Europe, and people

831
00:46:57.639 --> 00:47:00.639
say to me all the time, oh, you know, you're

832
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:04.360
never going to meet somebody. I'm like, no, I'm going

833
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:07.039
to meet somebody. And I travel a lot. I'm going

834
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:09.519
to meet somebody that enjoys the same things I do.

835
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:12.280
Like you know, and we were talking about it, like

836
00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:14.599
when you go out on tour, that's where all your

837
00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:18.400
friends are. They're not at home. I come home and

838
00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:20.519
like I don't even leave my house for a week,

839
00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:24.960
you know, Like I'm just I'm in that that, you know,

840
00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:28.880
the the the off tour depression thing, you know, And

841
00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:33.119
that's true. It's it's totally real and people don't get

842
00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:36.440
it unless they live it, you know. And but it

843
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:39.599
is true. I come home and it's like, these aren't

844
00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:42.480
my friends. These people aren't my friends. Those people are

845
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.760
my friends, you know. And if I'm going to meet

846
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:48.239
somebody I'm gonna be with, wouldn't it be cooler to

847
00:47:48.280 --> 00:47:52.400
meet somebody that I'm doing it with? Post to somebody

848
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:55.639
that you meet and they want you to stop doing it?

849
00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:58.000
Or why would I want to? Like my second wife,

850
00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:00.440
she wouldn't go to shows with me, and it's like

851
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:04.119
why did? And she goes, you'll have more fun going

852
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:07.960
by yourself, Like I do have fun going by myself.

853
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:10.760
But if you're with somebody when you want to be

854
00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:13.360
with somebody that you could have fun going with them

855
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:15.840
instead of leave them home, you know, that doesn't make

856
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:16.599
any sense to me.

857
00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:19.440
Yeah, you know, hopefully for you.

858
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:22.119
I always say that. I always say, but I'm a

859
00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:27.480
lot smarter this time. Okay, you know, after two times

860
00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:31.079
you get a little smarter. Some people like to say

861
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:33.880
it's picky. I just say it's smarter. It's like I

862
00:48:33.920 --> 00:48:37.480
already know what's not going to work within like thirty seconds,

863
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:43.159
Like you know, it's uh. I had somebody perfect example,

864
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:46.559
tender date didn't even get to a date. We're on

865
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:49.159
the phone talking about music. She was like this spiritual

866
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:52.119
zen person, so I'm fear. Oh okay, she's cool and

867
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:56.239
you know. Then we start talking about music and I'm

868
00:48:56.239 --> 00:48:59.079
talking about metal and she's like, oh, yeah, I can't

869
00:48:59.119 --> 00:49:01.480
listen to metal because anytime metals on it makes me

870
00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:05.880
want to destroy things and get all pistol. I'm like you,

871
00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:11.119
like that is ridiculous. You're supposed to be You're saying, Nama,

872
00:49:11.159 --> 00:49:14.119
stay after that, like you're supposed to know why I

873
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:17.199
control your emotions. And no, metal doesn't make me feel

874
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:20.880
that way. Gets makes me feel positive and pumped up

875
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:25.119
and adrenaline pumping. And like I said to her, I'm like,

876
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:28.360
if you get like that, that's a you problem, not

877
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:29.639
the music problem.

878
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:30.480
Yep.

879
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:35.360
Yeah, So there you go. So let's let's rock out

880
00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:36.559
at one of your shows.

881
00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:39.599
Oh yeah, yeah.

882
00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:42.119
So yeah, let me know when you when you're in

883
00:49:42.199 --> 00:49:45.920
South Florida and I'll cover a show here.

884
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:47.960
Well part of South Florida. Are you in because I

885
00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:48.639
live in Orlando.

886
00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:51.519
I'm near West Palm and I would come up to her.

887
00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:53.559
I would come up to Orlando for a show. I

888
00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:55.480
do it a lot. I would even come up to

889
00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:58.559
Tampa because I love the venues up in Tampa.

890
00:49:58.679 --> 00:50:00.000
Tampa has a lot of good venue.

891
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:02.400
And we noticed with the last two tours that we

892
00:50:02.400 --> 00:50:05.239
were on because like I'm I'm an Orlando girl, and

893
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:08.400
I remember Orlando really being like a central area in

894
00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:11.119
a hotspot for rock and roll because of Rockville being

895
00:50:11.159 --> 00:50:13.840
in Daytona and yeah, you know Earthday Birthday, and then

896
00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:17.280
we used to have places like what's it called back

897
00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:20.440
Booth and uh what used to be the Haven, So

898
00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:22.800
Orlando was a really good stomping ground. I just feel

899
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:26.599
like post COVID, I don't know what happened exactly, but well,

900
00:50:26.639 --> 00:50:29.119
I guess COVID happened. Now Tampa is like the new

901
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:31.800
hotspot for up and coming artists, and I've.

902
00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:34.440
Seen that a lot. But I think it's the venues

903
00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:38.920
because like, yeah, first of all, I hate I hate

904
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:41.320
the venues in South Florida for the most part for

905
00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:43.199
doing as doing press.

906
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:45.679
I feel like, well it's the.

907
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:48.920
Doing press, Like there's respectable street I love and I

908
00:50:48.920 --> 00:50:51.400
love the people that run that. But that's a little club.

909
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:54.360
But the Misfits will play there. Agent Orange plays there,

910
00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:57.920
Dri plays there. Okay, But like you go down to

911
00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:03.239
Florida and but for Lordeale to some of the places

912
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:09.400
which I won't name, that the people at the door

913
00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:15.920
like they think they're God, and it's like so one time,

914
00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:19.119
as an example, I was I just finished the interview

915
00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:21.159
on the tour bus. I was going into the venue

916
00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:23.440
and the guy was giving me a hard time and

917
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:26.800
I had a press pass, photo pass, everything, just give

918
00:51:26.880 --> 00:51:30.039
me hard time that I had to literally call the

919
00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:35.239
band to come out and tell him to let me in. Wow. Yeah,

920
00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:38.960
Like it was ridiculous. And I don't experience that anywhere else,

921
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:42.679
Like I go over to US UK, you're UK and

922
00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:46.880
Europe I love because they still treat artists and pressed

923
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:50.039
the way you're supposed to treat artists and press like

924
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:54.000
and if you talk to every artist that does those festivals,

925
00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:57.239
they talk about the way they're treated and Danny Wimmer

926
00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:00.320
you get that too with the artists. Okay, so there's

927
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:03.440
not one artist that ever has anything bad to say

928
00:52:03.480 --> 00:52:07.079
about doing a Danny Wimmer festival because he kind of

929
00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:11.639
follows that European guideline of you know, making sure the

930
00:52:11.800 --> 00:52:14.360
artist has it easy and they're happy.

931
00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:16.599
You know, I've heard that before from it from a

932
00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:19.159
lot of the arts that I went through Danny Wimmer festivals. Yeah,

933
00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:20.599
I'm I'm excited to possibly do that.

934
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:21.760
Yeah.

935
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:24.519
Any Womer does a do a good job. He always

936
00:52:24.519 --> 00:52:26.480
gives like tickets to the artists to go for the

937
00:52:26.480 --> 00:52:29.800
whole week and the way I mean, I'm sure because

938
00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:31.960
I'm sure you've done like Rockville and then possiblely it's

939
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:32.760
like Louder than Life.

940
00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:35.800
I do all the Danny Wimmer festivals for like the

941
00:52:35.840 --> 00:52:37.440
past ten twelve years.

942
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:40.440
Yeah, And the cool thing about them is each artist

943
00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:43.000
will have like a press day, so it's not just

944
00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:45.079
artists going in and out. You can actually schedule with

945
00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:49.400
a lot of the interviewers the day of, and I

946
00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:51.800
never really experienced that with like any other festivals that

947
00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:55.079
like I performed versus them, They're very organized down from

948
00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:58.000
like press to the food and the artist lounge and

949
00:52:58.039 --> 00:52:59.880
like the drinks and the artist lounge too.

950
00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:05.000
Well oil Machine, you know, and you know, like even

951
00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:07.880
the stuff they do like Louder than Life. Last year,

952
00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:12.280
Slayer got rained out, you know, and they kept trying to.

953
00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:15.880
Get weird you think about it, Yeah right, yes, I.

954
00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:22.519
Know exactly, and so like they kept trying open but couldn't.

955
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:26.199
But now they got Slayer to play Louder than Life

956
00:53:26.239 --> 00:53:29.599
this year, you know, so they're playing this year. Slayer

957
00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:31.800
wasn't playing on doing any more gigs and they didn't

958
00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:34.079
have to. They got paid, they didn't have to do

959
00:53:34.119 --> 00:53:36.920
another show. So kudos to Slayer coming out and doing it,

960
00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:40.039
you know. And I think that's totally cool because like

961
00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:44.599
that might be have been somebody's only chance to see Slayer. Yeah.

962
00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:46.920
If you want to know a fune one about Louder

963
00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:49.719
than Life though, was this was a few years back.

964
00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:53.559
Was I went there just watching some bands, and this

965
00:53:53.719 --> 00:53:56.480
is long before I ever Closure was even on my radar,

966
00:53:56.760 --> 00:53:59.679
and I ended up watching Nikolay singing with one of

967
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:02.920
her previous bands, and I just remember like walking up

968
00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:07.239
there and thinking, like she can fucking sand that just

969
00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:08.599
went elf somewhere and got drunk.

970
00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:09.480
Yeah.

971
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:11.599
Right, And then when.

972
00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:14.119
I found Closure, I was playing this country band and

973
00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:17.320
I ended up opening up for him on tour and

974
00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:19.840
the Red But yeah, it was a small world. How

975
00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:22.079
all that works out because I started doing the interviews

976
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:25.000
and I thought she looked really familiar, and she started

977
00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:27.159
talking about it Louder than Life. I said, hold the

978
00:54:27.159 --> 00:54:28.280
fuck up, you're that shit.

979
00:54:28.519 --> 00:54:31.079
Yeah, Wow, that's funny how.

980
00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:33.159
The festivals can bring people together.

981
00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:34.679
Like at the it's great.

982
00:54:34.800 --> 00:54:36.960
It might have done an interview with you in like

983
00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:38.639
twenty twenty two with Louder than Life.

984
00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:40.480
That makes sense too, that's.

985
00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:42.039
I think I might have. That's what I was like,

986
00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:43.480
Why do I feel like I know this name and

987
00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:44.320
everything that I could?

988
00:54:44.559 --> 00:54:47.559
You want to mention the band? If you don't, don't.

989
00:54:47.599 --> 00:54:49.039
If you do, do, I.

990
00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:51.239
Don't mind they I think the only reason I don't

991
00:54:51.239 --> 00:54:53.360
mind now is because they made a public post seeing

992
00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:56.159
that they completely quit after having two singers after me

993
00:54:56.599 --> 00:54:58.519
that could have more than six months at a time.

994
00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:00.719
So now I don't mind because you know they're not

995
00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:01.440
out there anymore.

996
00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:04.519
But I was in the band called the dev like

997
00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:07.800
two years ago or so, and we just basically had

998
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:10.599
an animosity where after my dad died, things weren't the

999
00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:14.440
same and they kicked me out, and then I ended

1000
00:55:14.519 --> 00:55:16.920
up being able to create the Devil effect never more

1001
00:55:17.079 --> 00:55:19.360
criminal mind, you know what I mean? I did an

1002
00:55:19.400 --> 00:55:23.639
amazing collaboration with Josh, and so the year after it

1003
00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:26.599
was like I actually legitimately got the band closure and

1004
00:55:26.639 --> 00:55:30.360
then got some closure because we were releasing multiple singles

1005
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:32.119
a year and I don't even think we knew each

1006
00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:35.679
other for just a few months. We were in different

1007
00:55:35.679 --> 00:55:37.480
states recording, and next thing you know, we were doing

1008
00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:38.559
tours across the US.

1009
00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:41.840
That's like all the pieces all at once came together.

1010
00:55:42.679 --> 00:55:44.320
Everything happens for a reason.

1011
00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:46.440
It definitely does everyone.

1012
00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:50.840
And we were talking about before, like all of that,

1013
00:55:51.079 --> 00:55:54.079
how you could be in a band that nobody likes

1014
00:55:54.159 --> 00:55:58.400
each other, like you gotta be best friends, because listen,

1015
00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:02.280
it's even more than a Marria, you know, and so

1016
00:56:02.760 --> 00:56:04.880
you gotta be with these people twenty four to seven

1017
00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:07.760
for most of the year. You better like them. I

1018
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:08.159
didn't know.

1019
00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:10.960
I would like to write on that concept and say,

1020
00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:13.800
it's probably a little bit more than just friends. Yeah,

1021
00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:16.679
because friends breaking family is like stuck together.

1022
00:56:16.719 --> 00:56:19.639
Oh, it's totally a family. Family, And I think I

1023
00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:22.719
ex mentioned earlier. It's I think I said to you guys,

1024
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:24.519
it was like, you're like siblings.

1025
00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:25.960
Yeah, no, we really are.

1026
00:56:26.159 --> 00:56:28.639
And I mean there's so many things that like me

1027
00:56:28.760 --> 00:56:30.599
and Mike have thought about Zach, I thought about because

1028
00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:32.760
that's what you do, like when you're when you're in

1029
00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:34.599
closed counters for a month at a time and a

1030
00:56:34.760 --> 00:56:37.079
moving freaking tube going eighty miles on the highway and

1031
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:39.920
you're tired, or you have a bunch of people in

1032
00:56:39.960 --> 00:56:42.079
your face because they love the music and it's it's

1033
00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:43.599
constant highs and lows.

1034
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:45.519
It really does test everybody.

1035
00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:49.199
And you know, friendships will break up through pressure, relationships

1036
00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:51.760
break up through pressure. But a family that like genuinely

1037
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:54.039
loves each other and we may not have blood that

1038
00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:56.039
runs through our veins, but we have like the same

1039
00:56:56.239 --> 00:56:59.280
love and the need for music that does it gets more.

1040
00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:03.559
So I'm a total blood has zero to do with

1041
00:57:03.719 --> 00:57:04.920
family type of person.

1042
00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:09.239
Yeah, yeah, so I can feel like we almost found

1043
00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:11.119
family in the sense of like finding each other.

1044
00:57:11.679 --> 00:57:15.039
I mean there's nothing like coming through there and you know,

1045
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:17.159
I'll leave something in the our way and so many

1046
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:18.679
trips over it or I get out in that trip

1047
00:57:18.719 --> 00:57:22.039
on a boot and fall on my face.

1048
00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:25.440
I love it, but it's okay.

1049
00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:29.400
I definitely get the little I'm like the youngest sibling,

1050
00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:30.000
little sisters.

1051
00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:34.480
I'm totally nice.

1052
00:57:34.679 --> 00:57:38.119
The producers nice to me, mean to them. The fans

1053
00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:38.840
are nice to me.

1054
00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:44.920
They're cool with them, actually like that, and so.

1055
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:46.920
They're like, hey, you take a picture of me and

1056
00:57:47.000 --> 00:57:48.840
Nikolay and Zach's like, god, damn it.

1057
00:57:48.920 --> 00:57:51.360
You know, listen, I want you to remember though, there

1058
00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:53.679
was that one time. She's never going to hear the

1059
00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:55.840
end of it either. I had one guy asked her

1060
00:57:55.880 --> 00:57:58.519
to hold the camera so he could take a picture

1061
00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:03.599
about it. So it's okay, I'll.

1062
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:08.239
Nice. And you know, you're the second interview today that's

1063
00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:09.039
dropped the camera.

1064
00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:11.880
Oh we're getting excited.

1065
00:58:11.960 --> 00:58:15.519
Man, we can't stand so I know it's great. I

1066
00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:18.960
don't think anybody's ever dropped the camera during an interview ever,

1067
00:58:19.159 --> 00:58:21.199
and now it's twice in one day. I love it.

1068
00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:21.920
Yeah.

1069
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:23.840
I must be getting better.

1070
00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:25.679
Yeah maybe, Yeah, totally.

1071
00:58:26.280 --> 00:58:28.639
I think I could finally do my job. I don't know.

1072
00:58:31.639 --> 00:58:35.639
You guys definitely gotta play Rockville, man, Oh yeah, definitely

1073
00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:39.400
do so when you do play, Okay, just so you know,

1074
00:58:39.840 --> 00:58:42.199
you get to drive on the speedway.

1075
00:58:42.880 --> 00:58:43.440
That is true.

1076
00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:45.880
It's fucking badass.

1077
00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:49.039
Because you have to go like a certain speed because

1078
00:58:49.079 --> 00:58:51.440
the corners. No, it's just so.

1079
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:55.880
It's straight up and down yeah, to go up on

1080
00:58:55.920 --> 00:58:59.480
that wall, you have to hit eighty eight five ounce

1081
00:58:59.519 --> 00:59:01.519
per hour or you're falling off the wall.

1082
00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:04.280
And then even if you're like in the median and

1083
00:59:04.440 --> 00:59:06.199
of course being in a big bus and everything, you

1084
00:59:06.199 --> 00:59:09.159
have to be consistent forty fifty just to be able

1085
00:59:09.199 --> 00:59:11.239
to actually like get traction in order to like be

1086
00:59:11.440 --> 00:59:12.159
on that angle.

1087
00:59:12.519 --> 00:59:15.400
Very I have a jeep Moob so it's a big

1088
00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:18.800
monster jeep, and it was kind of fun riding on there.

1089
00:59:18.920 --> 00:59:21.480
And then I said to the person that runs me,

1090
00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:24.039
who I'm really close with because you know, she's been

1091
00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:28.119
doing it for years too, and I said, you know,

1092
00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:30.320
I got my skateboard in my jeep. Do you think

1093
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:33.840
I'll lose my credential if I go take it and

1094
00:59:33.880 --> 00:59:36.719
go ride the speedway? And she's like, yeah, I wouldn't

1095
00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:40.039
do that. I'm like, okay, I'll wait till the festivals over.

1096
00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:45.519
You can do anything you want once exactly you want exactly.

1097
00:59:47.599 --> 00:59:50.239
I would have probably broken something because that wall is

1098
00:59:50.280 --> 00:59:53.679
straight up and down, like literally, you can't even stand

1099
00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:58.119
that on that wall without falling down. It's wild. So

1100
00:59:58.280 --> 01:00:00.639
you guys have to play there. I mean, it's a

1101
01:00:00.679 --> 01:00:05.679
given because it's Florida, planing it out there. I'm like

1102
01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:11.079
planing in the universe. I'm also telling you probably listen

1103
01:00:11.239 --> 01:00:14.920
to this. I'm telling the publicists that she needs to

1104
01:00:14.960 --> 01:00:16.159
get you on Rockville.

1105
01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:21.079
Oh yeah, man, you know, bring a show that people

1106
01:00:21.079 --> 01:00:24.280
will always remember. Oh yeah, that's a guarantee.

1107
01:00:24.199 --> 01:00:25.119
Better or worse.

1108
01:00:25.480 --> 01:00:29.920
And Fozzi does a lot of the uh Danny Wimmer festival,

1109
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:33.039
so I'm surprised maybe he wasn't. I don't think he

1110
01:00:33.079 --> 01:00:36.039
did any of this year. I'm surprised that. See, if

1111
01:00:36.079 --> 01:00:38.320
you were on tour, you might have done the festival.

1112
01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:40.239
So you gotta get back on tour with a band

1113
01:00:40.280 --> 01:00:43.079
that plays these festivals and then you'll get because that's

1114
01:00:43.079 --> 01:00:47.639
how Danny Wemmer does it. Yeah, that that's how Danny

1115
01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:50.800
Wimmer does it. Like he like group books the bands

1116
01:00:50.840 --> 01:00:54.559
that are on tour together. Or you could do what

1117
01:00:54.599 --> 01:00:57.119
Silly Goose did. Do you know the band Silly Goose?

1118
01:00:57.159 --> 01:00:59.599
Oh yeah, they just started playing in the parking lot.

1119
01:00:59.800 --> 01:01:04.159
Yeah, so they played in the ball It was like

1120
01:01:04.360 --> 01:01:07.559
old school. They had like an old school punk band.

1121
01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:11.039
They played in the parking lot. I think it was

1122
01:01:11.159 --> 01:01:16.280
Louder than life. And Danny Wimmer was in the crowd

1123
01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:19.440
in the parking lot watching them and just sitting there

1124
01:01:19.559 --> 01:01:25.119
watching them. The next day, the next day they were

1125
01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:30.920
playing a stage and they've been playing multiple of them.

1126
01:01:31.000 --> 01:01:34.880
And Danny Wimmer does that ship, you know, so he is.

1127
01:01:34.960 --> 01:01:38.079
Very involved, yes, and even the camping grounds. So I

1128
01:01:38.119 --> 01:01:40.320
noticed at those festivals, like they get just as wild.

1129
01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:44.719
They have karaoke, they have like freaking food trucks and

1130
01:01:44.719 --> 01:01:46.400
everything up until like three four in the morning.

1131
01:01:46.679 --> 01:01:48.840
Like it's almost like an experience.

1132
01:01:48.920 --> 01:01:51.760
After the experience, if you go to a Danny Wimmer show,

1133
01:01:51.800 --> 01:01:54.400
you need like a day or two off after the

1134
01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:55.400
festival to recoop.

1135
01:01:55.880 --> 01:01:59.559
Oh even harder, now, what say that goat?

1136
01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:01.920
I said I needed a couple of days after that year,

1137
01:02:01.960 --> 01:02:04.000
I went Louder than Life and I ended up seeing her.

1138
01:02:04.159 --> 01:02:08.159
But uh, I got so damn drunk just walking around

1139
01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:12.960
that campground. It was well alcohol poisoning, baby. It was

1140
01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:13.559
a good time.

1141
01:02:13.880 --> 01:02:17.159
A couple of years ago when we had the uh

1142
01:02:18.159 --> 01:02:22.079
you know, Metallica was doing the two nights like they're

1143
01:02:22.079 --> 01:02:25.039
doing this year too, but they did multiple Dandy Wimmers.

1144
01:02:25.519 --> 01:02:27.960
So they had just came out with their Black and Whiskey,

1145
01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:32.519
and Black and Whiskey invited me to come do my

1146
01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:36.159
interviews in their tent so I could do testing, you know,

1147
01:02:36.320 --> 01:02:37.519
taste testing with the.

1148
01:02:37.400 --> 01:02:40.280
Band would Yeah, that's my thing.

1149
01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:44.400
Oh yeah, well like that made that made for great

1150
01:02:44.599 --> 01:02:48.519
interviews and listen Bourbon Beyond and louders like that anyway,

1151
01:02:48.679 --> 01:02:51.199
like because actually that's my thing.

1152
01:02:51.199 --> 01:02:52.199
That should be where we play.

1153
01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:59.119
Yeah. The funniest interview ever over three thousand music interviews.

1154
01:02:59.159 --> 01:03:02.519
Funniest ever was So there's this guy, Fred Minnick that

1155
01:03:02.559 --> 01:03:05.719
does interviews that Louder than Life and Bourbon Beyond, and

1156
01:03:05.760 --> 01:03:11.000
he is like a bourbon whiskey like number one connoisseur,

1157
01:03:11.239 --> 01:03:14.320
an expert, and so when he does the interviews, he

1158
01:03:14.559 --> 01:03:17.519
has you drink bourbons and discuss it.

1159
01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:19.800
Oh my god, that's like literally your thing.

1160
01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:23.480
I could do this, okay, So we just figured out

1161
01:03:23.519 --> 01:03:31.199
my stream job playing right, Okay, so I can do

1162
01:03:31.239 --> 01:03:32.960
this any kind of we can tell our bourbon drink

1163
01:03:33.000 --> 01:03:33.960
the good stuff. I'm good.

1164
01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:40.639
Airborne did an interview before my interview. He was with them.

1165
01:03:41.159 --> 01:03:43.400
My interview ended up late because they were in there

1166
01:03:43.400 --> 01:03:46.400
for like a half an hour forty five minutes. They

1167
01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:50.360
were so drunk when they came out this interview.

1168
01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:54.519
Doing this. Now, yeah, that's your life.

1169
01:03:54.519 --> 01:03:55.719
That's literally I know.

1170
01:03:55.800 --> 01:03:58.519
Right. One of the things they did during the interview,

1171
01:03:58.599 --> 01:04:05.000
like they're afsees and they were doing impressions of they

1172
01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:09.360
were doing the broadcast of a Mets game, like if

1173
01:04:09.400 --> 01:04:13.760
you're listening on the radio, you're doing this in the interview.

1174
01:04:13.880 --> 01:04:17.599
And it was the funniest shit ever. Like the whole interview.

1175
01:04:17.719 --> 01:04:20.880
I didn't even speak mostly, I was just laughing most

1176
01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:21.440
of the time.

1177
01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:24.599
See, everything's better when you had bourbon to it this

1178
01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:26.639
for a long time. Yeah, Microw's up.

1179
01:04:26.639 --> 01:04:28.760
He wants to play guitars and drink bourbon on interviews.

1180
01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:29.800
Yep, there you go.

1181
01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:33.639
So there it is. So if you guys play louder

1182
01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:37.760
no matter what, I'll figure a way for you have

1183
01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:39.480
bourbon at your interview with me.

1184
01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:42.679
That would be awesome. That would be great.

1185
01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:45.679
Lets see, Well, there you go, and this.

1186
01:04:45.719 --> 01:04:48.440
Could be part of the thing. Me and Zach are

1187
01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:51.320
originally from the same area in Kentucky. Yep, he's from

1188
01:04:51.360 --> 01:04:56.280
like twenty minutes from my hometown, which is near Louisville.

1189
01:04:56.800 --> 01:05:00.360
You say, and you say, pretty well, okay, it's I'm

1190
01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:06.719
a Yankee and I just cannot. I can't, right, Like

1191
01:05:07.159 --> 01:05:09.239
I even have a shirt that I got at one

1192
01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:11.800
of the Lower Life that has every way that you

1193
01:05:11.840 --> 01:05:16.519
can see. It's like, I think I can kind of

1194
01:05:16.519 --> 01:05:18.840
do it now. Like Louville. I have a hard time

1195
01:05:18.920 --> 01:05:21.639
with that l there, there's no there.

1196
01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:23.639
Say it like you just took a slug of bourbon

1197
01:05:23.679 --> 01:05:26.199
and you still got some Louville.

1198
01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:34.519
Lou losll lo, like I grew up Louisville. It's loll No,

1199
01:05:34.719 --> 01:05:37.760
it's an L. There's an L element like lullaba.

1200
01:05:37.880 --> 01:05:41.119
Literally what you're saying, it's like lullaby.

1201
01:05:42.039 --> 01:05:45.159
It's like it's like I hate to say it, but

1202
01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:48.679
it is kind of like talking while you're performing Fallatio.

1203
01:05:48.800 --> 01:06:06.760
Okay, yeah, yeah, a minute, I can see I can

1204
01:06:06.800 --> 01:06:18.079
say it now watch oh.

1205
01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:17.920
There you go. So like we're putting this out in

1206
01:06:17.960 --> 01:06:21.239
the universe. So somebody in the Danny Wimmer camp here's

1207
01:06:21.280 --> 01:06:25.559
it and knows we need to put this closure to

1208
01:06:25.599 --> 01:06:31.519
bed and get them on a fest. There it is

1209
01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:35.840
you guys. You guys could play Bourbon Beyond too. You

1210
01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:40.199
probably to both of them. You've done both of them.

1211
01:06:40.480 --> 01:06:43.000
I used to do. I used to do Bourbon every year,

1212
01:06:43.039 --> 01:06:46.400
but now I have a conflict. I do riot Fest

1213
01:06:46.440 --> 01:06:49.400
every year and it's the same week and bums me

1214
01:06:49.440 --> 01:06:54.519
out because I like bourbon. But it's like misfits sting. Okay,

1215
01:06:54.840 --> 01:07:00.440
don't do riot Fest. Uh okay, this your Slayer and

1216
01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:07.280
somebody else that's good. Oh well, I guess, oh Blondie

1217
01:07:07.360 --> 01:07:10.000
or something like that. I was like, well, I live

1218
01:07:10.199 --> 01:07:11.079
like but okay.

1219
01:07:11.320 --> 01:07:14.039
I got to see Slayer three times. I love them live.

1220
01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:16.840
I've seen Slayer over a thousand times. I went to

1221
01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:19.400
the Shot. I went to her first show ever, and

1222
01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:22.920
ever since I was addicted. I was going every single weekend.

1223
01:07:23.480 --> 01:07:28.960
I went to Metallica's first show ever. I basically so.

1224
01:07:29.079 --> 01:07:31.599
I'm originally born New York, grew up in Jersey, and

1225
01:07:31.639 --> 01:07:34.840
my dad moved me to California in nineteen eighty. What

1226
01:07:34.960 --> 01:07:37.639
a time to move to California. I was thirteen years old,

1227
01:07:38.119 --> 01:07:42.079
hanging out at the Rainbow, walking into the Rainbow with

1228
01:07:42.199 --> 01:07:45.559
Motley Crue to go party with lemm and Ron Jeremy

1229
01:07:45.800 --> 01:07:50.199
Nice at thirteen years old, because that was the eighties.

1230
01:07:50.800 --> 01:07:51.280
In New York.

1231
01:07:52.239 --> 01:07:53.079
What about Piece of New York.

1232
01:07:53.119 --> 01:07:54.920
We was talking about Piece of New York, Earlier pieces

1233
01:07:54.920 --> 01:07:55.559
better in New York.

1234
01:07:55.960 --> 01:07:59.840
Yeah, and one of you said you weren't a fan

1235
01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:02.119
the pizza in New York, and I don't like you

1236
01:08:02.199 --> 01:08:04.639
because of it, because there's nothing like New York pizza.

1237
01:08:04.679 --> 01:08:09.559
It's like Chicago people, they're like, Chicago pizza is the best.

1238
01:08:09.639 --> 01:08:12.519
I'm like, how many places pizza better?

1239
01:08:12.719 --> 01:08:15.039
And as an Albanian from New York from the Bronx,

1240
01:08:15.159 --> 01:08:17.640
like Albanians do one of two things. We either become

1241
01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:20.479
like tenants or like landlords, or we own like a

1242
01:08:20.479 --> 01:08:23.920
pizza shop, or you murder people.

1243
01:08:24.399 --> 01:08:25.199
What'd you say?

1244
01:08:25.479 --> 01:08:27.760
Or you murder people that we're normally the hit man,

1245
01:08:27.760 --> 01:08:29.880
but we don't get caught for that. Yeah, that's what

1246
01:08:29.920 --> 01:08:30.439
I'm saying.

1247
01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:33.720
So we can't say that out loud because we don't

1248
01:08:33.720 --> 01:08:34.319
caught for it.

1249
01:08:34.279 --> 01:08:36.079
So there's no proof that we're doing it.

1250
01:08:36.479 --> 01:08:39.680
That's okay. My grandfather was Italian mafia and on to

1251
01:08:39.720 --> 01:08:41.960
speak easy okay.

1252
01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:44.640
So probably one of my uncles was like bodyguarding for it.

1253
01:08:44.680 --> 01:08:47.199
I'm not gonna lie. Probably no, it's true, like New

1254
01:08:47.279 --> 01:08:49.760
York pizzas, but probably the best. When we moved to Florida,

1255
01:08:50.039 --> 01:08:52.479
it is moved to Florida to make more pizza.

1256
01:08:53.079 --> 01:08:56.680
What did you say, Mike, fuck Florida pizza? Like, oh my.

1257
01:08:56.680 --> 01:08:59.000
God, oh you gotta. I could probably give you some

1258
01:08:59.039 --> 01:09:02.760
good recommendations. I know a bunch of like, ironically, I

1259
01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:05.039
know a bunch of pizza shops owned by Albanians, and

1260
01:09:05.039 --> 01:09:08.159
I swear to oh, nice, it'll be like ninety percent

1261
01:09:08.239 --> 01:09:09.199
close to like New York.

1262
01:09:09.239 --> 01:09:12.880
My brother has a water irrigation system in his pizza shop,

1263
01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:14.239
and you can ask them.

1264
01:09:14.079 --> 01:09:17.199
They had the Now I know, and now I believe you,

1265
01:09:17.359 --> 01:09:20.840
because a true New York style pizza place outside of

1266
01:09:20.840 --> 01:09:24.319
New York imports the water as the key to the

1267
01:09:24.359 --> 01:09:27.399
pizza and the bagels is the water that.

1268
01:09:27.359 --> 01:09:30.439
In humidity people do not know how to raise and

1269
01:09:30.520 --> 01:09:34.239
proof dough, and in Florida they do. They do dry East,

1270
01:09:34.760 --> 01:09:38.039
which my whole family we live by like live East,

1271
01:09:38.319 --> 01:09:40.479
and so that makes a big difference. I could get

1272
01:09:40.520 --> 01:09:43.399
into a whole hour conversation about Italian food and pizzas

1273
01:09:43.439 --> 01:09:45.000
and everything because it's like literally.

1274
01:09:44.640 --> 01:09:46.119
My whole family nice.

1275
01:09:46.159 --> 01:09:50.039
But yeah, no, there are some decent like spots here

1276
01:09:50.079 --> 01:09:52.359
and there that like I could promise you you'll eat and

1277
01:09:52.359 --> 01:09:54.880
you're gonna be like, oh my god, it'll be so good.

1278
01:09:54.960 --> 01:09:58.600
It's not city New York pizza. It's like Brooklyn Bronx pizza.

1279
01:09:58.720 --> 01:10:01.439
When you go upstates, like in New York's.

1280
01:10:01.079 --> 01:10:04.079
Well they do have Brooklyn pizza down here, and it

1281
01:10:04.119 --> 01:10:06.560
is like Brooklyn. There's a place right near me called

1282
01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:11.640
uh Grimaldi's that is exactly like the pizza I had

1283
01:10:11.680 --> 01:10:16.840
in Tuscany and Italy. Like it. Oh wow, really good? Yeah,

1284
01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:21.680
really good. But I love the Chicago people that they

1285
01:10:21.680 --> 01:10:24.640
always say, and I always say to them, how come

1286
01:10:24.800 --> 01:10:27.439
every state you go into it as New York style

1287
01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:31.319
pizza not Chicago style pizza. You're not the best, You're

1288
01:10:31.359 --> 01:10:33.920
not the best, word of best. It's like you thinking

1289
01:10:34.359 --> 01:10:37.439
it's like Boston thinking they have the best baseball team.

1290
01:10:38.159 --> 01:10:43.920
Yeah, no comment on tour through Boston.

1291
01:10:44.720 --> 01:10:51.000
That's almost a political question there. I know, rights and religion,

1292
01:10:51.119 --> 01:10:52.479
new rule today.

1293
01:10:52.960 --> 01:10:54.520
Just look at the rings man, look at the rings.

1294
01:10:54.520 --> 01:10:56.479
Who's got more rings? You see New York everywhere, and

1295
01:10:56.479 --> 01:10:57.600
you see Chicago anywhere.

1296
01:10:57.840 --> 01:11:00.720
That's right, Like vote for the underdog, vote for the underdog,

1297
01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:02.880
but like you know who's the real winner.

1298
01:11:03.479 --> 01:11:07.720
You know, you do vote for the underdog. That's why

1299
01:11:08.039 --> 01:11:10.279
you know you're a Giants fan because it took all

1300
01:11:10.319 --> 01:11:13.760
those years you know of a losing team. You have

1301
01:11:13.800 --> 01:11:17.600
the only team in history that the quarterback loses a

1302
01:11:17.640 --> 01:11:23.920
Super Bowl by fumbling on a drop to the knee.

1303
01:11:24.079 --> 01:11:26.600
How do you fumble dropping too? But then you're still

1304
01:11:26.600 --> 01:11:30.840
a loyal fan after that. That's that's a New York fan. Yeah.

1305
01:11:30.960 --> 01:11:35.000
New York fans, they are loyal to you even if

1306
01:11:35.039 --> 01:11:41.640
you suck. Yep, no there is How about Alabama fans?

1307
01:11:42.399 --> 01:11:44.880
Oh God, don't even get me in with this role tide.

1308
01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:48.560
So this is where, this is where I make my exit.

1309
01:11:48.680 --> 01:11:50.720
I actually do have to go track here in a minute.

1310
01:11:50.760 --> 01:11:52.479
I think I do up at six o'clock, so I

1311
01:11:52.560 --> 01:11:55.319
got about fifteen to set my gear up. Yeah, I

1312
01:11:55.399 --> 01:11:58.520
will say nothing about Alabama fans because Alabama's great to me.

1313
01:11:58.680 --> 01:11:59.560
You all have a good time.

1314
01:12:01.079 --> 01:12:03.319
Love actually fit underneath. Oh he's doing it.

1315
01:12:03.279 --> 01:12:10.399
He's doing it. Look at that. I will say that

1316
01:12:10.439 --> 01:12:14.399
this is like a record breaking interview, especially because she

1317
01:12:14.439 --> 01:12:16.239
came in, because we were at the end until she

1318
01:12:16.319 --> 01:12:20.239
came in. Sorry, no, it's all good. Like normally my

1319
01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:23.279
interviews are ten to fifteen minutes, So if they're an

1320
01:12:23.359 --> 01:12:25.800
hour and fifteen minutes, it means it's a pretty good interview.

1321
01:12:26.039 --> 01:12:28.920
Okay, I felt a fellow New Yorker and like it

1322
01:12:29.000 --> 01:12:30.800
was a stress call, and I was like, no, that

1323
01:12:31.359 --> 01:12:33.079
he's with too many freaking like Southerners.

1324
01:12:33.119 --> 01:12:33.840
Let me let me go in.

1325
01:12:34.319 --> 01:12:37.680
Yes, totally, like I was telling them in the beginning. Okay,

1326
01:12:37.800 --> 01:12:40.359
so my daughter she lives up in the Panhandle at

1327
01:12:40.399 --> 01:12:44.039
Navarre Beach, and I'm like, that's not Florida, That's that's

1328
01:12:44.079 --> 01:12:46.680
southern Alabama. It's true, it is.

1329
01:12:47.119 --> 01:12:50.840
Florida's just a bunch of transplants. I mean best friends

1330
01:12:50.840 --> 01:12:52.439
from New York. Like, I have so many friends from

1331
01:12:52.439 --> 01:12:53.880
New York that all live in Florida.

1332
01:12:54.319 --> 01:12:57.720
Well, yeah, I mean, like, at this point in my life,

1333
01:12:57.960 --> 01:13:01.640
do I want to live in gray and freezing all

1334
01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:04.159
the time. Like, I'll go to the snow and I'll

1335
01:13:04.199 --> 01:13:06.159
go to the cold, but I like leaving it too,

1336
01:13:06.199 --> 01:13:08.760
and I hate the gray. The last couple of times

1337
01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:11.439
I was in Jersey, I never felt that way going home,

1338
01:13:12.199 --> 01:13:15.680
like Jersey, yeah, well it is home to me, but

1339
01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:21.600
it was it was misty, freezing rain, raised skies. I'm like,

1340
01:13:21.720 --> 01:13:23.600
what the fuck do I want to live here?

1341
01:13:24.199 --> 01:13:26.159
That's why we like to tour up north in the winter,

1342
01:13:26.479 --> 01:13:28.840
or excuse me, up north in the summer, right down

1343
01:13:28.880 --> 01:13:29.840
south in the winter.

1344
01:13:30.119 --> 01:13:32.920
That way, It's exactly Yeah, but we didn't do that.

1345
01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:34.359
We made a horrible mistake of that.

1346
01:13:34.720 --> 01:13:38.640
We went through freaking Arizona and Texas and Mississippi through

1347
01:13:38.680 --> 01:13:41.720
the summer. Yes, and then our bus air conditioning wasn't working,

1348
01:13:41.760 --> 01:13:47.119
and then our bus was down three times in Arizona.

1349
01:13:47.239 --> 01:13:50.239
Well that's that's proof. If we weren't family, we would

1350
01:13:50.239 --> 01:13:51.199
have all quit.

1351
01:13:52.079 --> 01:13:54.479
Right, no doubt. When you have that kind of heat

1352
01:13:54.520 --> 01:13:56.079
going on, you want to kill people.

1353
01:13:56.279 --> 01:13:59.479
Yeah, oh yeah, we're like a toxic family with like

1354
01:13:59.479 --> 01:14:01.399
a massive trauma blond.

1355
01:14:01.479 --> 01:14:04.960
Now we're alling across the desert screaming, we will do this.

1356
01:14:05.079 --> 01:14:10.560
You will make it forty days, forty days. Yeah, it.

1357
01:14:12.560 --> 01:14:13.199
Felt that way.

1358
01:14:13.960 --> 01:14:16.520
I love it. Well, man, we gotta get you on

1359
01:14:16.600 --> 01:14:19.600
the festivals, and I have to see you guys in person,

1360
01:14:19.960 --> 01:14:21.880
you know, yes, and we'll have to do this in

1361
01:14:21.960 --> 01:14:24.680
a person with some bourbon, you know.

1362
01:14:24.880 --> 01:14:27.079
And even even better, now, if you just want to

1363
01:14:27.119 --> 01:14:29.239
have us together and get together when we tour through

1364
01:14:29.279 --> 01:14:31.560
there and just sit down and have a yeah, a bourbon,

1365
01:14:31.560 --> 01:14:33.079
that'd be great. I'm all there, you go.

1366
01:14:33.479 --> 01:14:35.920
And then even like okay, so when I go up

1367
01:14:35.960 --> 01:14:38.680
to visit my daughter, we can hang out because like listen,

1368
01:14:39.439 --> 01:14:43.560
you know, it's right over to whatever. I don't even

1369
01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:47.119
know what it's right over, it's just right over now.

1370
01:14:47.720 --> 01:14:51.359
Alabama's like right there. Although I am a New York

1371
01:14:51.399 --> 01:14:54.479
Italian Jew, so I don't really belong in Alabama. It's

1372
01:14:54.560 --> 01:14:55.479
kind of scary to me.

1373
01:14:55.800 --> 01:14:58.560
Will Yeah, I look like a sore thumb walking around

1374
01:14:58.680 --> 01:15:02.359
being the Albania New York I know, right, and platform

1375
01:15:02.439 --> 01:15:05.479
boots and like fame closure chees and they're like.

1376
01:15:05.399 --> 01:15:07.279
What the hell is this chick with the big hair do.

1377
01:15:07.640 --> 01:15:09.319
We're kind of all over though, because we have a

1378
01:15:10.640 --> 01:15:12.039
our drummer right now. He's a Jew.

1379
01:15:12.600 --> 01:15:13.560
Yeah, very proud of it.

1380
01:15:13.640 --> 01:15:17.359
Nice works currently in India comes back while we tore

1381
01:15:17.399 --> 01:15:18.279
and everything with it too.

1382
01:15:18.359 --> 01:15:19.439
So it's where we're all over.

1383
01:15:19.800 --> 01:15:24.079
Yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah, because normally in places like Alabama, Georgia,

1384
01:15:24.920 --> 01:15:28.159
I get the what's a Jew? Like? They don't they

1385
01:15:28.479 --> 01:15:31.960
They're like, how come you don't have them horns coming

1386
01:15:32.039 --> 01:15:32.720
out of your head?

1387
01:15:34.359 --> 01:15:34.479
No?

1388
01:15:34.359 --> 01:15:36.720
No, no, no, that's a Democrat or a liberal.

1389
01:15:36.840 --> 01:15:39.439
Yeah, those are the ones that have horns on their

1390
01:15:39.479 --> 01:15:40.800
head of your in Alabama.

1391
01:15:41.600 --> 01:15:45.000
Well yeah, well maybe they took over from the Jews

1392
01:15:45.039 --> 01:15:47.920
like it used to be be a I remember I

1393
01:15:47.960 --> 01:15:52.279
was driving cross country from Jersey to California and I

1394
01:15:52.319 --> 01:15:56.079
was like nineteen years old or something like that, and

1395
01:15:56.319 --> 01:16:02.000
uh on the road in Louisiana. And you know, back

1396
01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:04.479
in the day when we didn't have online dating or

1397
01:16:04.520 --> 01:16:10.279
social media, you had car tag and you're like drive

1398
01:16:10.399 --> 01:16:12.880
down the road, hot chicks next to you, and you're

1399
01:16:12.920 --> 01:16:16.640
like doing this, and then sometimes you meet up, like

1400
01:16:16.760 --> 01:16:19.159
pull off in the service area or rest area. And

1401
01:16:19.159 --> 01:16:20.319
that's what we did. We pulled off.

1402
01:16:21.079 --> 01:16:21.920
What's car tag?

1403
01:16:23.239 --> 01:16:26.640
You're clicking up the road with car next to you.

1404
01:16:26.680 --> 01:16:28.079
Then you pull off somewhere and you meet up.

1405
01:16:28.720 --> 01:16:29.000
Yep.

1406
01:16:29.239 --> 01:16:31.359
This is why she's my little sister by the way, right.

1407
01:16:35.079 --> 01:16:37.159
I was just complaining about how the men don't know

1408
01:16:37.199 --> 01:16:40.119
how to text sometimes, so when they send in an address,

1409
01:16:40.159 --> 01:16:41.920
they don't send it correctly where it's just like a

1410
01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:44.560
hyperlink that I can click. I have to look at

1411
01:16:44.600 --> 01:16:46.399
it type it out into the thing, and I'm like,

1412
01:16:46.439 --> 01:16:48.720
oh god, this is like such like see.

1413
01:16:48.479 --> 01:16:50.760
I hate when they send a hyper click like that

1414
01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:54.159
just then to Google.

1415
01:16:54.359 --> 01:16:55.760
I'm still trying to get one of them to buy

1416
01:16:55.760 --> 01:16:58.720
a freaking iPhone. Not me.

1417
01:16:58.920 --> 01:17:00.039
I have an I Phone, an.

1418
01:16:59.920 --> 01:17:04.800
I phone, so yeah, what happens. So we pull in

1419
01:17:04.840 --> 01:17:06.960
the service area, we talked. I end up spending the

1420
01:17:07.079 --> 01:17:10.640
night at our house. Her parents were away, and she's like, yeah,

1421
01:17:10.800 --> 01:17:11.279
thank god.

1422
01:17:12.039 --> 01:17:15.039
She's like, that's what we would murder.

1423
01:17:16.319 --> 01:17:22.479
She does I watched God, yeah, I could have been.

1424
01:17:23.279 --> 01:17:26.159
I could have definitely been part of that because listen,

1425
01:17:26.840 --> 01:17:29.680
I was in her house and she says straight out,

1426
01:17:29.760 --> 01:17:32.199
it's a good thing my family is not home because

1427
01:17:33.279 --> 01:17:36.800
they would lose their ship. If I was with Yankee

1428
01:17:36.920 --> 01:17:41.479
Jew and they would, I would probably shoot your ass.

1429
01:17:41.880 --> 01:17:44.520
This is why you guys had more serial killers in

1430
01:17:44.560 --> 01:17:48.760
your time, because y'all literally just accepted people in your home.

1431
01:17:49.560 --> 01:17:52.279
In our time, we just watched murder podcasts and we

1432
01:17:52.439 --> 01:17:54.840
hyper critical size everybody.

1433
01:17:54.399 --> 01:17:56.520
Before we even get to know them and question if

1434
01:17:56.520 --> 01:17:57.560
they're killer.

1435
01:17:57.760 --> 01:18:01.800
Hey, I think about I used to, and I think

1436
01:18:01.800 --> 01:18:05.319
about I hitchhiked everywhere. I would never hitchhike today. I

1437
01:18:05.359 --> 01:18:09.279
told somebody hitchhike it recently. I'm like, are you serious.

1438
01:18:09.600 --> 01:18:13.159
Yeah, thing, it's just.

1439
01:18:13.119 --> 01:18:16.600
A different day and age now, it's just everything's it's

1440
01:18:16.600 --> 01:18:17.079
a lot.

1441
01:18:17.439 --> 01:18:21.279
You can't do ship. Yeah, It's like I think it's

1442
01:18:21.319 --> 01:18:23.880
some of the things that like, either we were talking

1443
01:18:23.920 --> 01:18:27.159
earlier before you came on about backstage, Like I was

1444
01:18:27.199 --> 01:18:30.680
backstage all the time on the Sunset Strip days in

1445
01:18:30.720 --> 01:18:33.840
the eighties, and I'm backstage all the time now and

1446
01:18:33.920 --> 01:18:36.840
people ask me, They're like, hey, can you bring me

1447
01:18:36.880 --> 01:18:38.640
back stage? I'm like, you really don't want to go.

1448
01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:43.159
It's fucking boring. There's nothing going on, you know, and

1449
01:18:43.760 --> 01:18:45.840
like back in the but they're thinking it's like it

1450
01:18:46.000 --> 01:18:49.239
was back in the day, which is absolutely true. Like

1451
01:18:49.279 --> 01:18:51.319
I would go to a Metallica show. We would always

1452
01:18:51.399 --> 01:18:53.520
all go over to their house and party all night long.

1453
01:18:53.600 --> 01:18:58.720
I'd pick up my friends in the bushes. No, yeah,

1454
01:18:58.760 --> 01:19:01.880
well I was at the part already when Vince left

1455
01:19:01.920 --> 01:19:02.520
with Razzle.

1456
01:19:04.359 --> 01:19:08.960
Really yeah yeah, oh wow, going a beer run to

1457
01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:11.560
be there, Yeah yeah, going a beer run.

1458
01:19:12.239 --> 01:19:15.520
Yeah, lots of crazy ship. You know what they say

1459
01:19:15.680 --> 01:19:17.520
is if you were at the Sunset Strip during the

1460
01:19:17.520 --> 01:19:19.399
eighties and you remember it, you weren't there.

1461
01:19:20.279 --> 01:19:24.319
Yeah, yeah, that was a cool time to be there.

1462
01:19:24.359 --> 01:19:27.600
Though, definitely it was. But you know what's good about today,

1463
01:19:28.920 --> 01:19:33.359
musicians are being true musicians and they're more professional about

1464
01:19:33.399 --> 01:19:37.359
it and better musicianship better at their craft. Even take

1465
01:19:37.439 --> 01:19:40.399
bands from back then, you take I think we were

1466
01:19:40.439 --> 01:19:44.479
talking about earlier Hetfield. Okay, he hates the way he

1467
01:19:44.560 --> 01:19:47.239
sang back then. I love the way he sang back then,

1468
01:19:47.319 --> 01:19:50.760
but he hates it because he knows he didn't know

1469
01:19:50.760 --> 01:19:54.680
how to sing yet, you know. And and like you know,

1470
01:19:54.800 --> 01:19:57.880
he said, at the San Jose Sharks Games, they played

1471
01:19:57.920 --> 01:20:00.119
the old version of seeking the strains, Like, well, they

1472
01:20:00.159 --> 01:20:02.319
played a newer version because I know how to sing now,

1473
01:20:03.840 --> 01:20:08.039
you know. And it's just it's interesting to see the

1474
01:20:08.079 --> 01:20:12.399
different perspectives. Like, you know, somebody who was a real

1475
01:20:12.760 --> 01:20:17.319
douchebag during the eighties that I couldn't stand is the nicest,

1476
01:20:17.800 --> 01:20:21.960
most humble guy now. And that's Brett Michaels. Oh wow,

1477
01:20:23.880 --> 01:20:27.439
he was in the eighties. He was this egotistical.

1478
01:20:28.239 --> 01:20:29.840
We were just talking about him when I was yeah,

1479
01:20:29.920 --> 01:20:31.760
like two days ago, we were just talking about poisonous.

1480
01:20:31.880 --> 01:20:33.239
I was down range and he came down to see

1481
01:20:33.279 --> 01:20:35.840
this down there. That was n Yeah.

1482
01:20:35.880 --> 01:20:40.800
So he was playing Hometown Rising in Louisville, you know

1483
01:20:40.920 --> 01:20:44.760
when they had that there, they had they had Bourbon

1484
01:20:44.840 --> 01:20:47.159
Beyond Lowry and then they did that one year. He

1485
01:20:47.279 --> 01:20:51.760
was there and after the end of the night, you know,

1486
01:20:52.840 --> 01:20:55.479
we were all backstage. I was with the production crew

1487
01:20:55.720 --> 01:20:59.479
and we're just hanging out. He comes back there, like

1488
01:20:59.760 --> 01:21:02.479
even to the guy sweeping the floor, He comes up

1489
01:21:02.479 --> 01:21:05.439
to every single person, shakes their hand and thanks them

1490
01:21:06.439 --> 01:21:10.079
for what they're doing, and like was the most down

1491
01:21:10.119 --> 01:21:13.479
to earth, humble guy who he wasn't in the eighties.

1492
01:21:14.159 --> 01:21:17.520
So kudos. I love that that.

1493
01:21:18.159 --> 01:21:20.880
And I think we're really good about that is all

1494
01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:23.800
the people who work these venues, the bartenders, you know,

1495
01:21:23.880 --> 01:21:25.960
the security and everybody else. We couldn't do this if

1496
01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:28.039
it winn't for those guys. Yeah, no, that's one. For

1497
01:21:28.079 --> 01:21:29.000
the fans. They all matter.

1498
01:21:29.159 --> 01:21:30.479
We're honestly just the final piece.

1499
01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:33.159
But like what actually starts the whole process is literally

1500
01:21:33.560 --> 01:21:35.439
the venues, the workers.

1501
01:21:34.960 --> 01:21:35.880
The fans coming out.

1502
01:21:35.920 --> 01:21:38.119
I mean, there's so many things that have to happen

1503
01:21:38.119 --> 01:21:39.760
before we even get the chance to do what we love.

1504
01:21:39.800 --> 01:21:43.039
And it's literally based on everybody else, so totally.

1505
01:21:43.560 --> 01:21:46.680
And now you know that's the other thing too, Like

1506
01:21:46.720 --> 01:21:50.319
a lot of media people like they treat the security

1507
01:21:50.439 --> 01:21:53.560
like shit, and like, dude, they're the ones that determine

1508
01:21:53.560 --> 01:21:56.800
whether you even get back into media. So like I

1509
01:21:56.960 --> 01:21:59.399
kiss their ass because they're working their ass off. They're

1510
01:21:59.439 --> 01:22:03.319
sitting out in the heat. You know, hardly ever brought

1511
01:22:03.399 --> 01:22:07.279
food or drink or anything. It's a thankless job, and

1512
01:22:07.319 --> 01:22:12.359
they're making your job easier, like treat them good. Yeah, yeah,

1513
01:22:12.760 --> 01:22:19.640
for sure, those are the more people, the crew, roadies, security,

1514
01:22:19.680 --> 01:22:22.560
those are those are the people that should should get

1515
01:22:22.560 --> 01:22:26.600
the most things because that those are the thankless jobs

1516
01:22:26.880 --> 01:22:27.920
that they work around.

1517
01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:30.520
One day, that'd be kind of cool.

1518
01:22:32.560 --> 01:22:36.600
See you gotta play for yeah, you gotta play for

1519
01:22:36.720 --> 01:22:39.479
teenagers because like back in the day, I wrote e

1520
01:22:39.680 --> 01:22:42.039
for like all these bands just because I wanted to

1521
01:22:42.079 --> 01:22:47.039
party with them later. Oh yeah, and get the girls too.

1522
01:22:47.680 --> 01:22:52.520
You know, you're hanging out with Motley Crue. Well, if

1523
01:22:52.560 --> 01:22:54.760
you're hanging out with Motley Crue back in the day,

1524
01:22:55.199 --> 01:22:59.079
they have so much overflow that it was easy, okay,

1525
01:22:59.560 --> 01:23:06.000
Like even even they're over super hot. Yeah, you know,

1526
01:23:06.319 --> 01:23:09.439
even their overflow was super hot. Okay. So it's like, oh,

1527
01:23:10.680 --> 01:23:14.359
you just wait a little bit and like, okay, well yeah,

1528
01:23:14.399 --> 01:23:15.039
I'll take you.

1529
01:23:19.199 --> 01:23:21.640
And you wonder why the backstage is born now.

1530
01:23:22.079 --> 01:23:27.600
Right right exactly? Meanwhile, like I'll be backstage with some

1531
01:23:27.680 --> 01:23:30.159
of my friends back there and now backstage and we're

1532
01:23:30.199 --> 01:23:38.239
showing pictures of our grandkids on our iPhones. Oh well,

1533
01:23:38.560 --> 01:23:40.680
this has been a blast. I don't want to keep

1534
01:23:40.720 --> 01:23:44.520
you all night, and uh, probably ten million people try

1535
01:23:44.560 --> 01:23:46.640
to reach me. But it was my last interview today

1536
01:23:46.680 --> 01:23:48.159
or else we couldn't have had this one train.

1537
01:23:49.199 --> 01:23:51.159
Thanks so much for having us on. We really appreciate

1538
01:23:51.159 --> 01:23:51.479
your time.

1539
01:23:51.880 --> 01:23:54.079
Oh it's my pleasure. And I can't wait to see

1540
01:23:54.119 --> 01:23:57.079
you out there live because there's nothing that replaces live.

1541
01:23:57.119 --> 01:24:00.279
And there's a rule on my show and that is

1542
01:24:00.319 --> 01:24:03.439
ain't listener after an interview that doesn't go to your

1543
01:24:03.439 --> 01:24:06.199
merch store and buy merch, they can't listen to my show.

1544
01:24:06.439 --> 01:24:13.039
So I'm just reminding everybody to go to find closure

1545
01:24:13.399 --> 01:24:16.960
everywhere with Z not in your own life, but the

1546
01:24:16.960 --> 01:24:20.479
band okay, do their own life in your own time,

1547
01:24:20.880 --> 01:24:23.680
gooder sites, check out their tour dates, buy their merch,

1548
01:24:23.880 --> 01:24:27.760
get their new music, check everything out or don't come back.

1549
01:24:29.760 --> 01:24:34.199
Thank you, oh anytime you guys rock And can't wait

1550
01:24:34.239 --> 01:24:36.720
to see you guys again soon and it will be

1551
01:24:36.760 --> 01:24:40.359
funny because like if I get to interview you again

1552
01:24:40.439 --> 01:24:44.239
in person, because right now I'm wearing my shades, so

1553
01:24:44.319 --> 01:24:47.079
it's like, do I really remember with the ten million

1554
01:24:47.159 --> 01:24:49.880
faces that are in my brain? But then in person

1555
01:24:49.920 --> 01:24:59.039
will be like, oh now I remember, We'll fix yeah exactly.

1556
01:25:00.079 --> 01:25:04.319
Ben fixes everything true, spoken like a true Southerner.

1557
01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:05.079
Ye.

1558
01:25:08.039 --> 01:25:10.039
All right, you guys rock and thanks for being on

1559
01:25:10.079 --> 01:25:11.279
the Adventures pipe Man.

1560
01:25:11.840 --> 01:25:12.640
Thanks for having us.

1561
01:25:14.760 --> 01:25:19.000
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipe Man

1562
01:25:19.520 --> 01:25:23.000
on w for c u I Radio