Aug. 2, 2026
From Croatia to Holy Ground: Manntra’s Inspiring Metal Adventure at Wacken
The conversation focused on Manntra's journey as a Croatian metal band, their experiences breaking into the European festival scene, particularly Wacken Open Air, and the cultural challenges and growth of the Croatian metal scene. Stories of perseverance, the realities behind being a musician, and the evolution of the metal community were explored throughout the episode.Main Topics Covered
- Manntra's path from Croatia to major European festivals
- The unique challenges of being a metal band from Croatia
- The size and dynamic of the Croatian and broader European metal scenes
- Personal anecdotes of hardship and resilience on tour
- Financial realities and misconceptions about musicians' lives
- The evolution and inclusivity of the metal community
- Comparisons between music scenes and community culture, past and present
- One concept discussed was the difficulty of achieving recognition as a Croatian band, with Manntra becoming pioneers for their country within the European metal scene 01:43.
- Several points were raised, including the challenges of building a reputation in a country with no established metal legacy and a small potential fan base 03:23.
- The discussion explored early gigs, practical obstacles (like lacking professional equipment), and how witnessing large-scale productions abroad motivated the band to elevate their standards 05:41.
- A recurring theme involved the grueling nature of touring—long van rides, sleeping in uncomfortable settings, and the emotional rollercoaster of leaving and returning home 10:00, 12:08.
- Manntra’s appreciation for loyal fans who invest significant resources (time, money, travel) to attend shows was emphasized 08:10.
- The misconception that musicians are "living the dream" was countered by sharing the daily hardships and financial struggles experienced behind the scenes 09:19.
- A key theme that emerged was how the metal community has become more inclusive and supportive, compared with the past when there was more gatekeeping and occasional aggression among subgroups 13:04.
- Personal stories provided color, such as being singled out in school for wearing metal shirts, enduring ridicule and even altercations, and ultimately developing resilience through these experiences 04:00, 14:01.
- The interview compared today’s family-like atmosphere at festivals like Wacken, where even children are welcomed safely into mosh pits, to earlier, more hostile times 16:35.
- Insights into the Croatian music industry were shared—few bands had merchandise traditions, little infrastructure for touring, and many top acts relied solely on ticket sales or large public gigs rather than developing full-scale touring operations and merchandise 07:12.
- Touring in Europe opened Manntra's eyes to broader possibilities and set new benchmarks for professionalism 06:38.
- “We had to work so hard for everyone to even put Croatia on the metal map...” 01:51
- “For a headline show of Manntra, they pay €40 for a ticket, but then...the show cost €700 to someone, and it's a huge respect.” 08:10
- “Long hours and bad pay, but we love it.” 11:28
- “This community is inclusive...everyone is welcome...” 13:22
- “It built my resilience and it built my character.” 14:09
- “Even though guys are drinking, jumping, mosh pitting, whatever, it’s safe.” 16:09
- “Passion still, and this is the lovely thing.” 17:13
- Wacken Open Air Festival: https://www.wacken.com/
- Manntra (the band): https://www.manntra.hr/
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Hi you love LUNTI rure.
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W F see wow.
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For you young. This is the pipe Man here on
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the Adventures pipe Man W four c Y Radio and
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I'm here.
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With Marco Promontra. Nice to meet you and nice to
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be here with you.
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Oh, nice to have you here at Vakin on the
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Holy ground.
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Man, Holy, holy, holy holy.
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Have you played this festival.
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Before twenty two? It was amazing and we are excited,
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not yet scared, but ask me in two hours, I'll
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be scared.
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Shit until you get up on stage. And then and
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then you go into a zone right like it's your
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an out of body experience. But yeah, right.
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Before you go on, definitely it is.
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Yeah, you know it's like right before you go on,
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you're still you and you're like, oh shit, oh shit.
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And then you go on stage and it's like automatic pilot.
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It's the last fifteen minutes. Usually it's that takes like
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for four hours to pass, you know, it's right, Oh
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my god, that's heavy, but we're gonna make it somehow. Today.
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Yeah, and the cool down for you because that must
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be brutal too. The heat we had today to be
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able to play in that heat, you know, I mean
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it's cool now, so it's better. I think the weather
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a hold too. I hope I'm playing it. I'm playing
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it out there, I.
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Hope, I hope.
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So, So tell us a little bit about your journey
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the voking, and I don't mean how you got here,
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I mean how you got here as a band.
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Wow, it was really really a long, long journey because
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we are a creation band. Nice and to be honest,
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I don't know if this is a like a good
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thing or a bad thing, but we are the first
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creation band to make it that fast. We were pioneers
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and we had to work so hard for everyone to
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even put Croatia on the metal map, you know, because
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if we were footballers, everybody will say, oh, maybe this
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is the next local moderator or whatever, you know. But
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since we are metal musicians and we are not from
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Sweden that someone would say, oh, maybe these guys are
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the next in Flames, Sabaton or whatever they said. Croatia.
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We know, we know shit about Creatia nothing. It's just
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a tourists good destination metal ban from Croatia. Go home,
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go open a tourist pansion or whatever, you know. So
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it was really hard to prove ourselves and we were
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always like a little bit looked, you know, a little
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bit through microscope, but on the same time we were
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looked from far away like we're not really interested in you.
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So this was really hard in the beginning. But later
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later we got lucky that we met many incredible, nice
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people that are supporting still us through the journey, our partners,
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and a bunch of amazing, amazing loyal fans that is
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growing day by day and we cannot be more happy
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and grateful for that. So we're happy now and now
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the road is good. But the road was bumpy. It
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was really rock and.
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Roll, right, col I love how you came up with that.
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It's really so what is the metal scene like in Croatia?
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Well, I will be honest, there are many good bands,
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but the problem is that Croatia has maybe three point
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five million people in total, and we are counting babies
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and old people, you know, in that statistic, right, and
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so I think maybe there are five to ten thousand
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metal pads that could go to a concert. So the
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scene is pretty much small and smaller than a scene
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of a bigger city in Germany, to be honest.
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Kind of like all metal was like thirty forty years
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ago is basically what it sounds like to me because
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we were very small community.
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Well it's cool, and imagine me. I was in high school.
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I was having Iron Maiden shirts and stuff like that,
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and they were calling me. I was the only guy
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in the whole school of I don't know, thousands of
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people wearing a Meal shirt and they were calling me
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a punkhead. And there was I'm not a punkhead. I
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like punk, but I'm a male guy. We are a punkhead.
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And then we will go on a fist fight, you know,
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every every day I was in a fist fight with them.
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So this was really old school, like in the movies
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from the eighties and seventies in the in the States,
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you know, but this was what has happening in.
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The creation, and that was me in the eighties in
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the States. I'd wear an Ozzy Osbourne shirt to school
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and people would call me a devil worship.
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Yeah, you got the message. But for me was twenty
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years later and still the same thing.
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Seeing that blows my mind. You go out there and
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valk in and you would think that doesn't even exist anymore,
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like the sea of people out.
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There, And then now when they ask me, there's A
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cool thing is that nobody thinks we have a real
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job because we are musicians somewhere in Germany and we
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are not schlag a music pop singers in Creatians. Nobody
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knows about you. And then you say we play metal
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for example on Vakan, and they're like, what the fuck
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is that? And then you explain them it's a big festival.
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Nobody believes you, wow, because they know.
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About this thing. I mean obviously the metal people, rock
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and roll people that they know that. Yeah, and we
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have even this metal battle from Croatia for Vakan, and
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there was a good band today that played the metal
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battle fast the winners of Croatia you know, and stuff
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like that. So it's opening now. Somehow I'm proud in
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a way that I hope we opened a little bit
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of the door, you know for other bands. But they
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need to be good to enter in the door and
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close the door behind them. But they are good. There
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are many good bands and they're learning, you know. Also
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for us, when we played the first time in Germany,
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we came with the with the kauflin uh you know,
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w neyl Bags, you know what I mean, from from
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from the footstore with cables inside and fixed, and they
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were looking at us like, come on, you know, this
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was normal in Croatian nobody had wrecks and stuff like that.
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You know, I'm not joking with this plastic confland pegs.
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Wow.
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And then we saw the other bands there.
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That's pretty metal though, and we.
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Saw the other bands like they're bringing REGs and stuff
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like that, you know, they have everything nicely done. And
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we were like, shit, we were really some peasants. We
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need to buy these things. And then we go home
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and we said we need to get the REGs and
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then we saw it's five hundred euros and we said, shit,
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we are not going to get that. We don't have
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one hundred euro you know.
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Yeah, yeah, and probably we wonn't even get paid that
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for doing it in Croatia.
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Right, paid nothing. And when we came to Germany for
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the first time was a revelation. We saw big productions,
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we saw big bands, We saw the other side that
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we didn't even know that exists or how it looks
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like behind the scenes. So it inspired us pretty much.
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And then touring Europe inspired us even more and befriend
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big bands and opening for big eggs, you know, and
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playing with them on festivals really opened my brain explode.
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The moment was like, what the fuck? This is how
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it looks like. It's it's cool and we learned so much.
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We didn't have any person from whom to learn because
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there were no metal band before. We couldn't ask anyone, Hey,
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where do you print shirts? And the biggest rocker roll
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band in Creasha told me shirts. We print one hundred
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shirts to give to our partners. You don't have a
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merchant emerge what you know, and they make big arenas
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they don't give a fuck about them.
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Wow, because that's the way artists make money nowadays, is
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merch Like.
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They make money from tickets or they play for the
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New Year's even you know, the Capital Main Square and
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they get fifty sixty one hundred thousand euros for that
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gigs alone and don't give a fuck about it. And
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they don't have a real crew. They don't have nightliners.
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It's a small country. They travel by van. They don't
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have expenses. You need to rent a fucking nightliner or whatever.
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Here you already lost five thousand. You're only to put
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the keys inside and people don't know that. Fans try
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to understand that, but they also have a lot of expenses.
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You know, I always admire the fans how much they
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are devoted to the band, they spend money. For example,
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for our show, headline Show of Mantra, they pay forty
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euro for a ticket. But then they told me the story,
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like they they paid two hundred euro for a hotel,
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they paid two hundred euro to hum somewhere, they took
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days off or whatever. You know. In the end, the
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show of Mantra costs seven hundred or to someone. And
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it's a huge respect. Come on, I mean, thank you,
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thank you, you know, to appreciate that us that much
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that you put, you know, in all the expenses you have.
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I'm sorry for that, but also I'm grateful, you know
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what I mean?
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Yeah, totally. Well, and how about this, like we're doing
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the interview, you know why we're doing the interview here
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right inside the container. We were going to do an
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interview and the container, Yeah you got bumped by death
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Leopard Death. Yeah. I was walking in and do the interview.
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And when the person runs, it's like, oh no, you can't.
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I'm in here where you have it all blocked off?
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Right now because steth Leppard's coming and I'm like, okay,
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and I had to wait for.
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Well, they took our stinky containers and we are now
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hearing a beautiful field.
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Yeah, this is better. I like this better.
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Personally, I give them their stinky container. I don't care.
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This is a great place to do an interview. I
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like this better. I love it, and I love everything
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that you're saying, because I think listeners need to know
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what artists really go through. They don't understand. They all
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like look at things like rock stars, like, oh, they're
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living the dream life. You know, you probably get it
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too from some people, like you know, they're like, oh,
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how lucky are you? You get to go to Germany?
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Lucky me. We drive sixteen hour in one direction right
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and vent where everything.
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Has spend every dime you have, Yeah, just to be
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on the holy ground.
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I'm grateful to our fans because I think they understand
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that they follow us. They see that we travel for
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sixteen hour only for one gig and then sixty hour
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backs sometimes and we're fucking crazy and everybody promoters, fans, pends,
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they say we're fucking nuts, And I think the time
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goes on and we are fucking nuts. We know that,
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but we're still doing that.
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It's what it takes though, that proves your true musician,
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because you're doing it for the art, and that's when
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it ends up paying off. Like listen, Matallka, I knew
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them in the beginning, and they slept on the floor
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with three other bands in a one room thing and
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blowney sandwiches with no bread for like ten years.
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And we had a similar story. It was not ten years,
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but it was a few years, and we learned a lot,
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you know, and sleeping in front of the club because
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the owner doesn't want you to be inside. Then you
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sleep on the street, you know, la hobbos and stuff
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like that. But this was normal and we just accepted
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it like the way and maybe it will pay off,
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maybe it will sink, but in the end it's paid off.
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So a lot of them it never pays off. But
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we were lucky. We were lucky enough to come till here.
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I don't know how far we can get, but if
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it ends here, we're still lucky, you know what I mean.
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I love that attitude though, because that's the attitude you
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should have as a musician, you know, because listen, you're
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getting to do what you absolutely love.
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It's a shit job long.
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But we love it.
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No, I don't know why, but we love it. You know.
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It's like I go on tour and I do music
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festivals all over in the US, UK and Europe, and
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my daughter sometimes in the US, I'll bring her to
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one and halfway through the first day, like, she's like, Dad,
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I don't know how you do this every weekend. Man,
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I'm done already, and I don't know how I can.
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She's thirty.
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Well, that's not that young anymore.
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Yeah, exactly. And you know, you know the thing is
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is that when I get home, that's when I feel unlucky.
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