Aug. 2, 2026

From Cyprus to Wacken: Speak in Whispers Talk Metal, Growth, and the Power of Festivals

From Cyprus to Wacken: Speak in Whispers Talk Metal, Growth, and the Power of Festivals
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In this lively episode of Podcast, Pipeman sits down with Andreas and Andreas from the band Speak in Whispers, recorded on-site at Wacken. The episode takes listeners through festival antics, music industry insights, band dynamics, metal history, and hilarious personal stories—ranging from festival survival tips to the chemistry that drives Speak in Whispers. The conversation is full of laughs, reflections on metal culture, and practical advice for artists and fans.Main Topics Covered

  • Wacken Festival experiences and comparisons to legendary festivals
  • The origins and evolution of Speak in Whispers
  • Band dynamics, friendship, and creative growth
  • Metal history: Metallica, Megadeth, and the Big Four
  • The role of ego in music careers
  • Tattoos, piercings, and subculture traditions
  • The benefits and lore of music festivals and mosh pits
  • The value and impact of changing musical style
  • Cultural differences—US vs. Europe in music and lifestyle
  • Humorous stories about traveling, merchandise, and festival logistics
Key Discussions & StoriesWacken & Festival Culture
  • Massive crowds and the excitement of festival gates opening, likened to the 1983 US Festival (01:12).
  • Comparisons to other festivals like Bloodstock and Hellfest and the logistics of maneuvering these massive events.
  • The history and legacy of Wacken, including the VIP veteran section and its growth over 35 years (06:01).
On Band Dynamics and Origins
  • Andreas and Andreas have been close friends since childhood and started making music together at an early age (12:32).
  • Reflection on working through challenges as a team and never needing “Metallica-style therapy” to keep creative harmony.
Metal Talk: Growth & Experimentation
  • Debate on whether bands should stick to their classic sound or innovate (“Why do I have to write the same song over and over?” — Pipeman, 15:13).
  • Discussion of iconic albums, creative risks, and evolving fan expectations using Metallica and punk as case studies.
Tattoos & Piercings: Stories from the Underside
  • Pipeman and both Andreas / Andreas trade stories about first piercings, tattoo regrets, and clever tricks to evade military restrictions on body modifications.
Music as Therapy
  • The restorative power of mosh pits and festival culture is championed as a route to peace: “After moshing, everyone’s hugging… it’s the solution: Fuck the guns, fuck the wars, fuck the political leaders…” (51:02).
Merch and Promotion
  • Speak in Whispers’ new merch drop announced (Bandcamp page), with a promise of personalized messages (56:17).
  • Upcoming live album in progress; fans encouraged to follow the official Wacken livestream and Wacken TV for their festival set (54:20).
Metal Icons & Anecdotes
  • Inside stories from Pipeman about attending Metallica’s earliest shows, early band names like "Alkoholika," and friendship with members from Anthrax.
  • Digression into Dave Mustaine’s history and the Metallica/Megadeth split, including unique takes on "Ride the Lightning" and "Mechanix"/"Four Horsemen" (35:10).
  • Tales of lost shoes, battle vests, and festival survival strategies.
Social & Political Satire
  • Jokes about American geography, wealth, politics, and the challenge of returning home as a citizen.
  • Proposals for “Mosh for Peace” — a worldwide mosh pit as an alternative to war and conflict.
Notable Quotes
  • “You don’t get to choose your stalkers, so this is what you get. You get us.” — Andreas (00:51)
  • “If you're fake, the fans can tell.” — Andreas (15:54)
  • “Instead of arguing, go in the pit, work your shit out, and then we could all hug each other.” — Pipeman (50:50)
  • “Work hard. Let's hope at some point that we're big enough that we can have egos.” — Andreas (44:17)
  • “Icons… are all about the music. They weren’t about becoming a rock star.” — Pipeman (45:50)
Resources & Links Mentioned
  • Official Speak in Whispers Bandcamp for merch and upcoming releases (merch restock within a week from airing)
  • Official Wacken TV and livestream for their set (54:20)
  • Festivals referenced: Wacken, Bloodstock, Hellfest, Grass Pop, Download, Riot Fest, Louder Than Life, Aftershock, Rocklahoma


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Hi, you love unto Here's true wow for you your

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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe

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Man W four c Y Radio, and I'm here with Andreas.

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And Andreas from Speaking Whispers Nice.

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I can't believe you found me at the holy ground

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of valking. We met last year Bloodstock. You found me there.

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I think you're stalking me personally. I don't want to

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take praise for that, but maybe we are. It's possible.

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You wouldn't be the first, except usually it's females. I

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prefer them stalking me, but bands are safer. I don't

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think you get to choose your stalkers. So this is

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what you get.

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You get us, Yeah, exactly. So were you part of

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that whole crowd.

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Running in the infield just to come here for an interview?

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Did you see that? Were you out there for that?

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Oh my god? It was insane like as you know,

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I do a lot of interviews, yeah, and a lot

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of festivals. This reminded me of only one festival, and

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it was in nineteen eighty three in the US called

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the UTS Festival. There were three hundred thousand people and

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they opened the gate and everybody ran in like cattle.

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Trampoing each other to get to the front. And well,

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so I just happened to be out there. I didn't

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I've never been here before. I didn't do it on purpose.

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I happened to be out there, and this is what

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I saw it. Maybe you could do the play by

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play on it. Okay, yeah, yeah, we could commentate. I'll

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fast forward to the good part. Let's get to the

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good part. Okay, here we go. So that's whyfield open yet. Yeah,

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I'm on the I'm in the infield. But they're out

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there the people that can't come in. And then there's

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there's see these scary greeters over there, okay, the.

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Media trying to get pictures from everyone, singing, Yeah, they're

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the scary people.

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And then there's like dressed up as monsters and stuff

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behind them. Okay, they're the better looking. They're the better

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looking one. Yes, yes, yes, so you'll see there's see them. Yeah.

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Oh they're all in amazing. I don't know how they're

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fucking in costume. Man, Florida is so fucking hot out there.

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I was dying and I live in that every day,

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and I was dying. I mean, we come from an

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island where we hit thirty five, thirty seven all year.

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Round, and this for us is quite hot as well, right, okay,

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so you gotta wait for it. So first they play

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a little bit of music pumped you can't really hear.

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But then as soon as you hear Ace of Spades,

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you know it's on. It's a good engine song. Yeah,

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it is a zone. So Ace and Spade's gonna come here,

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it comes coming soon. They're all chanting out there in German.

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I have not an idea what they were saying.

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What is the security doing there? Can they stop people

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from rushing in? I mean, oh no, they're gonna let

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them in like cattle. Okay, yeah, they're not stopping that.

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I had to jump out of the way, man, Like

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I was standing there doing this filming and when they came,

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I had to jump out of the way. Now, now

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watch what happens. It's coming. It's coming soon, dude, dude, dude.

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A lot of people waiting in line, my man, the

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Ace of Spades. The last time I saw a line

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like this is when McDonald's first opened in Cyprus.

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That that's funny because in uh in the States, my

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ex father in law he lived in this little town

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called Woodstock, Virginia. It's probably smaller than than Voking. And uh,

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they had a ticker tape parade when they opened the

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McDonald's there because that was like the biggest thing ever

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happened in town. But these people like they're they're ready

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to go, man, and they're chanting in German. I don't

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even know what they're saying. Say fucking good crowd, man,

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I mean, crowd. Unbelievable what these founders did with this

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festival from one little festival and the first main here

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we go, it's going down. See they just opened and

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move out of the way to security. It's like, see

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how I had to get the hell out of the way.

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I mean, they have zero regards for human life. No,

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they trampled me, you know, like it's worse than a

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marsh pit. This was like it's an all with death

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five point zero. And then there's another one on the

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other side. And look at that that shit smell. That's

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like some sulfur shit going on. And then down yeah, exactly,

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let's knock them out before it really get crazy. And

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they're on the other side's doing the same thing. So

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it's like the insane. Let me tell you something, I

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walked around this saying, I even covered the whole thing.

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I was so hot. I thought Hellfest was big till

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I got here. Dude, this is massive. I mean I

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couldn't believe it, and I mean you can.

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You can even see it on the smaller stages, like

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on the Wet stage and on the head Banger stage

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where we played.

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I don't even know where those are. It was the

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same thing.

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Man Like, as soon as they opened the gates and

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they let people in, they poured in.

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It was crazy. That's the thing.

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I think. There's so much, so much people attending this

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festival that every single stage, big, small, regardless it gets

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it gets a good crowd because it's just so massive.

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I'm just so impressed that these people that founded this

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festival so with probably not even the sizes of this

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press ten yeah, and built this massive thing that the

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whole world knows about. Like everybody I know in the

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stakes knows about Vodkans in the it's the holy grounds man.

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We're on for thirty five years.

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Yes, crazy, thirty fifth anniversary. Can you believe that?

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And I think I think they told me this was

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the first like metal festival, true metal festival in Europe probably. Yeah.

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I mean I didn't google that, but I'm pretty sure

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that's accurate. I mean, did you see that there's like

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an area with for the veterans only, So there's people

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that have love the nineteen nineties. They get this special

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spot where they're last by CUE and it's their own

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like VIP veterans section. It's got a scien saying veterans section,

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and it's for everyone who believed in this from the

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very start. And I think that's like golden because you're

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giving people something back. It's like you believed in us,

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now you get special treatment, and.

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That's I think that's that's glorious. That's beautiful, totally one

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hundred percent. And did you walk through Vakan Village. Oh

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you gotta check that out too. It's cool you go

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back there. First of all, that's where all the gourmet

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food and shit is. Yeah, okay, that's the good food.

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But you have like these little villages. It looks like

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like ancient village is with tents and like it's like

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it's something to see for sure. It's never ending. Man,

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I got lost like three times today. It's just insane.

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It's huge. Listen, I was not feeling confident when I

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drove in that I was gonna ever find the Press ten. Okay,

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I had no clue where it was, and most people

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didn't either, because usually at festivals, none of the people

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at work know where to Press ten is because that's

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supposed to be like secret even on the map. Yeah, okay,

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but oh my god, like it's just I'm I'm glad

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I came to the holy ground there, and it was

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it was some serious travel to get here, Like I

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didn't sleep for twenty four hours. Three planes and I

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layovers that were so close. I'm both layovers that I

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and the opposite ends of the airport that I was

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like running through the airport if you ever you might

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not have but used to be before you know, he

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got caught being stupid. Oh J Simpson, you see the

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Hurts commercials, he's running through the airport. I've seen those. Actually,

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I was renting from Hertz here in Hamburg. I had

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to run through two airports, just like OJ Simpson, with

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like a fifty pounds backpack on my back, and I

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barely made it. Like the first stop was Atlanta and

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that's a huge airport, Like you have to take a

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train to the other side of the airport and then

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I got to Amsterdam, which I got Amsterdam a lot.

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I forgot how big that airport is massive. I had

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to catch my layover flight and I literally it was

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the opposite end. I thought it was gonna never end.

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And literally as I got up there, the last bust

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to the plane was leaving, and I was like, oh

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my god, I made it. But see that's proof of

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the holy ground of voking made or I got here and.

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Like your story before, like if the shuttle didn't come

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pick us up from our tents to take us to

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where we were supposed to play the backstage, that there

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was no way because those like I said, those things

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are not on the map. Now you open the application,

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you on the map. Obviously it's not available for everyone.

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So we would there was It's gonna be no way.

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Would have found the way to get there about ourselves

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if nobody would drive us there.

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I'm going to prove your point my first interview today,

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I was worried about, Oh, it was gonna be late,

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try and find it. They were late. They were like

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thirty minutes late, maybe more. Why because when they reached

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out to me to try and find out where I am.

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They were at the wet stage. I don't know how

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far that is, but I know it's far, pretty far. Yeah, okay,

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we came here by shuttle. Yeah, I don't know how

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they got here, but all I know was they had

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to do some work to make this interview. Maybe if

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I was the artist, I'm a bit fuck it.

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No, I think everything is worth for a conversation with

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the pipe man man.

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Well, that's true, that's true, everything's worth. But I love

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that you say that, like, that's what I That's what

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does it for me, not everything else. When artists tell

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me how much fun it is, because fuck, if I

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were an artist with some of the interviews I hear,

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i'd want to slip my throat, to be honest. Not

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here though, but other festivals that have influencers as interviewers. Yeah,

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but that's not that's that's different. You're you're a You're

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an interviewer exactly. Radio guy. Well that's what I am,

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you know, And these influencers, god bless them, but they're

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the it's all about me. I'm a it's all about you,

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Like my job is to make you look good, some

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harder than others to do with okay, But you know,

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you know why it's hard for others than me is

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because you gotta find out what people want to talk about.

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Don't talk about what you want to talk about. You

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don't give a shit what I want to know. You

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give a shit about what you want the audience to

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know about you, and to.

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Avoid the I mean, sure people want to know some

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kind of history of the band.

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But those are available everywhere, and we all look that.

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You could google that. I ask Alexa that, yeah, yeah,

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we're not.

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Here to narrate Wikipedia or something.

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Yeah. I always used to say that at festivals. Is

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like I'd say two things. One is, I'm not gonna

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ask any stupid questions like how you get your band name.

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Two is, I'm not gonna ask you anything out of

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Wikipedia unless I know it's bullshit, because then we could

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dispute it and make fun of it. But other than that,

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like why do people ask questions that have already been

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answered that us ours have to answer ten million times?

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And also a conversation like this, you actually get to

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know who I am more than learning about where speaking

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whispers comes from. You get to know me as a

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person in and dress as a person the way we

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talk the way we converse with.

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You exactly, and you know, I want to know when

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you grew up, Where did you grow up and what

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did you do for fun?

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Oh?

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What did you do for fun? Andreas?

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No, I mean we grew up basically, we grew up together,

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me and him.

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We've been we've been.

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Like friends since yeah, like two three years old, and

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that's freaking cool. We've started our music journey together. We've

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been Our first band was together when we were like

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twelve fourteen years old, and since then we've been in

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the same projects, like continuously, until we've reached this point

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where we've made something that's serious and we found other

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musicians that match our vibe and our wavelength and yeah,

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we're here.

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So my question to you is knowing each other as

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long as you do. Did you have to do like

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James and Laws and go to therapy and make what

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people think it's a crappy album just to get back

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and get friendly again. Uh not yet. I actually like

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saying anger like everybody hates on it. It's great.

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Actually, it's just that fucking snare man. Oh yeah, like

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the drum thing. But like I love Invisible Kid and

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I kind of monster there's a good song.

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I love Frantic. That's my my favorite on the album. Now,

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that's classic Metallica. But yeah, what the hell did he do?

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Is snare?

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I have no idea. It just sounds like a keke

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like a beer keg. Yeah, it's like it's weird. It's

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a weird creative choice. I mean different. Yeah, I can judge.

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I mean I'm not metallic. I mean they're where they are,

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so they probably did what they thought was better.

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I could judge those at their first show ever, so

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you know you covin. Yeah, I had to go through

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all their bullshit, the Black Album, Saint Angel and sant

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Anger like it is. Yeah, it is funny though, when

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I like the Black Album now, but when the Black

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Album came out, me and my friends that were the

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like first twenty five fans that went to all their

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shows religiously or like fucking posers sell out. But it

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grows on you. It listen, Nothing Else Matters is one

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of my favorite songs ever. And that's like a mellow

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song but it's really good and James digs deep in

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that song and it didn't even want that to be

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a song.

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I think it's it's also like I can't imagine, like

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for someone growing up and going through Kill Them All

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and Ride Lightning, that hits different. But you know, as

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the years go by and then you listen to you're like,

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it's still Metallica though, I mean it's still the continuation

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of what it was before. It's just obviously people grow,

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you change, you experiment. Something's backfire with the fans, some

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things don't. Something's the you go back to after twenty

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years and you're like, actually, that shit's good. You never

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know what's going to hit the fans, especially if you

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have core fans like Metallica do. But you know, I

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think a good band should always investigate new paths, new

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creative paths, because if you just sound the same for

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every single album, then yeah, the fans might love it

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because they're like, yeah, they have their sound, but then

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you get sick of it.

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Well yeah, I say that all the time. Like I

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heard Ali say in an interview when they were giving

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him all that shit for changing up out bring me

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a Rise and sounds, He's like, why do I want

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to write the same song and the same record over

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and over again? Yeah? And I agree with that. If

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you're an artist, you want to first of all, you

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want to grow in your craft. Second of all, like

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you want to experiment and do other things as you

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go along, because otherwise, yeah, you're bored.

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And especially for bands that are like ten years plus

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of being a band, like you grow as a person,

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you change, and you cannot put a recipe in your songwriting.

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It has to come from somewhere deep. If it's I mean,

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especially in this kind of music, if you're fake, the

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fans can't tell yeah you know, and it gets stale.

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So totally you have to keep and you're all going

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to write the same shit as you're fifteen or sixteen.

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Like perfect example, Joe from the Vandals, I've interviewed him

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a couple of times. We came and became friendly. He

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knew there was one question I went and asked that

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every media person asked. So he brought it up in

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the interview and he goes, and don't ask me. When

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the Vandals are writing new music, nobody wants a fifty

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year old write in punk rock songs and like, Although

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some people would argue with that, the point he's making

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is the whole point punk rock was yours, this angry

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teenager against the system, against the government against everything, and

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you may not think that way at fifty.

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The thing is, I agree with that, and like, I

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don't think that because the bound is still active and

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they're hitting sixty maybe even some of them do. You

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don't necessarily need to write new music. People are your

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fans of what you've done. So if you hit like

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a creative block where you're like, Okay, I'm too old

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to even think about writing music or I'm not inspired anymore,

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just play what you've done already.

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I don't think people mind.

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Yeah, you've worked, you're asked for for forty years.

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How many bands do that? Like when the last time

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certain bands put out an album? You know, Yeah, there's

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no need after certain for me. I mean, I don't

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know how people don't Why I hear the new shit? Yeah,

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you know, like they like what they like, Play the hits,

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that's what they want. I mean, if you're.

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At that age and you're still playing, that means you've

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reached a legendary status nodowns of the people. So there's

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no need to put out anything new unless your creative.

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Juices are still flowing like you were twenty years old,

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and I do think seventy two Seasons was a good album.

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I think hard Wire that was a great comeback. When

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I first heard Hardwirre that song, I'm like that kill

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mall Metallica. That's the thing.

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Their creative juices came back. You're gonna hear the writer's block.

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That's fine everybody. It happens to everyone, and in all

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kinds of industries, not just music, you know, films, writers,

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television series.

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Some people you hit it. Sometimes you hit a book

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where you're like, damn it, I can't think of anything good.

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Take a pause, or you're so stuck in the pattern,

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like I've experienced that. Because there's certain things I used

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to do in interviews I don't really do so much

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anymore because there's a couple of reasons. One is I'm like, well,

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what if people are listening to these interviews and they

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just hear me saying the same shit. Second is like,

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I've interviewed so many bands so many times now I

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get worried that I say the same stuff with the

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same band and they recognize it, you know, So you

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got to change it up so that doesn't happen. Yeah,

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but I'll have a question for you now, isn't the

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person you can interview me.

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I'm interviewing Pipe main now. So don't you sort of

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react to whoever's in front of you though? So absolutely yeah,

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So the interview can never be the same.

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And I do more than just react to what you say.

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If you've noticed, I look at imoved, and so I

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look at body movements. I look at tattoos. Even I

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pick shit out that I know they're gonna want to

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talk about, you know, like with tattoos, when you pick

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out one of their cool ones, they always are like feeling,

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they're smiling that you're talking about that because they have

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some thing about it, and I I tell you the story.

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So what I've been thinking the whole time is what wrong?

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What was wrong with that tattoo that got removed?

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It wasn't removed, just unfinished.

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Oh guys like it looks like somebody did laser to

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remove it and they're not done.

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It's a really old tattoo. But you know, I'm one

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of those guys that I can never finish anything. I

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just keep starting new ship and I'm I'm I'm trying

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to finish everything all at once and then everything gets

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left like unfinished.

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So what which are the tattoos? Do you really like,

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Oh my god, why did I fucking do that?

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My my my favorite is my fun piece I want

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gay as.

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I'm like, oh, that's badass. You should have been standing

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out there when the crowd was coming in with your

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shirt up, like you look like the other ones. Son. No,

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but that's why we keep him topless on stage. Say,

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there you go, Like, and people are probably like focused

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on that. They're like, oh, is he evil? I don't know.

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I mean he gives up a bit of a menacing presence.

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No doubt, no doubt.

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It's good to look evil on stage, So that's why

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you dress him up when he's off stage so people

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are not scared.

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Yeah, there you go. And it's also it's kind of like,

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you know, Guar have interviewed them a few times with

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and without their costumes. I've told them literally straight out,

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put the costume back on. You look a lot better.

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That's what you expect to see, right Yeah. Yeah, And

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you know, even though I'm doing audio interview, I'm interviewing

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heavy Soaurus and they email me because it's in the audio,

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They're like, well, we dress up in as Diosaurs. I'm like, well,

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fucking bring it on. I can paint the picture. They don't.

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You know, Radio is, you know, theater of the mind.

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You create the visual, okay, and then it's actually cooler

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than when they actually see it, you know, because listen,

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you look at some of the stuff that some of

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the top radio people did. If they do video that

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are like shock jocks, it ain't funny when you can

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see what they're doing. Like I used to do bits

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on my show before we did video, like where I

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would go pick and pretend that I went and picked

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up off the off the turnpike in Florida, went the

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homeless people with the cardboard signs and brought them in

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the studio to interview them. And then I would play

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both roles like I would interview and then I would

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answer nobody knew. But if you have video on, they're

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gonna know. So paint the visual. Ruin's the magic. I'm

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gonna paint them as you know, scarier dinosaurs than they are.

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They'll probably come up looking like lovable dinosaurs. I'm gonna

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paint them like they're gonna eat my freaking head off.

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You know. Sometimes that's better. Man.

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It's like when you're reading a book and you can

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picture in your mind, what what all the things describing is? Yeah,

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and then you you can see maybe if you if

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that book gets made into a movie.

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Then nobody likes the movie. When I read the about first,

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because you have a load of the rings.

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That's really think the lore in in your in your mind,

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and then you always get disappointed.

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Yeah, because you're allowed to let your imagination go. And

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that's key, you know. So I have a very important question.

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How come your gauge is bigger than his? You mean

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the ear gauge? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm trying harder. Okay,

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there you go. I definitely the right answer with Ben,

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because I'm bigger and I don't mean heightwise. Hell yeah.

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And I stopped at one point because it is kind

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of fucking painful. I was like, yeah, I'm gonna give

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it a break now because I've had enough of pain.

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I only had one piercing my left ear and it

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was a girl. It's always a girl, and I was

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a teenager and she goes, let me pierce your ear.

434
00:23:14.599 --> 00:23:17.079
I wanted to bang her, so I'm like, okay, And

435
00:23:17.119 --> 00:23:20.400
she took her ear ring, every ear and the potato

436
00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:23.480
and that was it. She put the potato behind my

437
00:23:23.519 --> 00:23:28.599
ear and went, you know what, though, it's still I

438
00:23:28.640 --> 00:23:30.640
can still slip an earring in it, and I've been

439
00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:34.319
worn one since I'm like eighteen. You know, she did

440
00:23:34.319 --> 00:23:38.160
a good job. Fuck go into these piercing places. Just

441
00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:42.599
do it yourself, unless it's your nose. My daughter found

442
00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:46.240
that out real quick. Yeah, my youngest daughter. She asked again, No,

443
00:23:46.279 --> 00:23:48.839
its piercing. I thought she was too young to do

444
00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:54.839
it yet, so I said no, Yeah, Well it gets better.

445
00:23:55.720 --> 00:23:58.759
I'm sitting in my bedroom and one day she comes

446
00:23:58.799 --> 00:24:02.759
in my bedroom cry and I can see that the

447
00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:08.079
nose ring halfway in, and she's like, yeah, I tried

448
00:24:08.119 --> 00:24:12.119
to do it myself and it won't go through and

449
00:24:12.200 --> 00:24:14.680
it stuck of it. And then I'm like, okay, I'm

450
00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:17.359
taking you to a professional now, because at this point

451
00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:19.839
you gotta do it. Might as well do it the

452
00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:23.039
right fucking way. Kind of beat him, Join him right. Listen,

453
00:24:23.799 --> 00:24:27.240
funny story about my earring. I'm a jew. I want

454
00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:31.480
to talk about how stupid teenagers are. I had long

455
00:24:31.559 --> 00:24:36.759
hair and I had a dangling upside down cross. My

456
00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:40.960
hair used covered all the time. One day, it's in California,

457
00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:44.440
Santa Ana winds, which are really strong winds pushed my

458
00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:48.519
hair behind my ear and my dad saw it, and

459
00:24:49.279 --> 00:24:51.559
he was pissed because I even asked him about game

460
00:24:51.640 --> 00:24:55.400
that pierced first, and he was like, over my dead body,

461
00:24:55.880 --> 00:24:58.559
now I'm wearing an upside down cross, which he doesn't

462
00:24:58.599 --> 00:25:01.200
know there's a difference between upside down and the right

463
00:25:01.279 --> 00:25:05.279
side up. So he starts yelling at it, and I said,

464
00:25:06.279 --> 00:25:10.400
dead serious. I wasn't even joking, but dead it's an

465
00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:13.960
upside down cross. It's not about Jesus or Christianity. I'm

466
00:25:13.960 --> 00:25:20.640
not going against my religion. It's about Satan. Ye saved it,

467
00:25:21.240 --> 00:25:24.920
but well, because Jews don't believe in Satan anyway, so

468
00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:30.759
I'm thinking that will work. No great save manat I know, right, Yeah,

469
00:25:31.720 --> 00:25:33.920
And then I did other stupid stuff like I used

470
00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:37.279
to take fish swivels and hang them down this length

471
00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:40.440
of my hair. I would put anything in that fucking I.

472
00:25:40.480 --> 00:25:42.960
Used to do the same, like because uh, there's mandatory

473
00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:45.400
military service in Cyprus and I had all a peer

474
00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:47.680
since young and obviously I didn't want to take him

475
00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:49.680
out for two years because then I'd have to redo them.

476
00:25:49.960 --> 00:25:50.319
So I do.

477
00:25:50.440 --> 00:25:52.279
I do the fishing line, which is like see through,

478
00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:55.559
so I just spent two years with like lines of

479
00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:58.119
fishing line in my ears, just trying to get by

480
00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:00.680
the military service without losing my piercings.

481
00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:03.400
I'll go a step further. My son in law he

482
00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:07.039
had a gauge and he would join the military. He

483
00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:11.160
basically took something and ripped up his ear so it

484
00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:15.480
was so it would heal back together. So he like

485
00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:19.240
he tortured himself to get it closed, and that was

486
00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:20.920
the only way to do it, and then he got

487
00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:24.200
into the military. Not as that was fucked up. Me

488
00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:26.720
on the other hand, when it was time to join

489
00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:29.400
the military, I'm like, I'm not fucking cutting my hair

490
00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:34.400
by that. That was my reason for not joining the military.

491
00:26:34.440 --> 00:26:35.400
Why I cut my hair?

492
00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:38.359
That's how you know you're hardcoreing up for the US military.

493
00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:39.359
Though, I give you.

494
00:26:39.400 --> 00:26:42.039
If you went into the trouble to cut your own

495
00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:45.559
ear off just to get into the military, then I

496
00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:47.720
mean you can't do anything exactly.

497
00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:50.960
Okay, So I have to ask you a question, by

498
00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:54.440
the way, and it's like one of those stupid things

499
00:26:54.480 --> 00:26:56.960
that people like you get annoyed by.

500
00:26:57.680 --> 00:27:03.200
But uh so I have to ask you. Yeah, you're

501
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:07.400
in Greece, cypress, Okay, Greek. Yeah it's close. Yeah, yeah,

502
00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:09.000
very okay, So.

503
00:27:09.400 --> 00:27:16.559
Do you know Audre Lagoo? I'm doing this because like

504
00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:19.519
people do that today. Oh you're in Florida? Do you

505
00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:20.319
know so and so?

506
00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:24.200
Do you know that it takes me twelve hours to

507
00:27:24.279 --> 00:27:27.559
drive my door's house on the opposite side of Florida Prize?

508
00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:29.480
Would you be I actually knew her though, That would

509
00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:32.519
be fun. She is an artist, though, and I would

510
00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:34.119
have laughed. That's why I wanted to bring it up.

511
00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:36.839
I mean, that would have been good if Oh yeah,

512
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:38.440
maybe I do know her. And I did that on

513
00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:40.880
purpose because most Americans wouldn't be able to tell the

514
00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:42.680
difference between Cypress and Greece.

515
00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:46.880
Yeah, I mean I think, well, probably Americans don't really

516
00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:47.480
know geography.

517
00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:48.759
But that's why I'm Europe.

518
00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:50.599
They know their own thing. They know the fifties and

519
00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:53.839
fifty one states. No, it's fifty. But we have Puerto

520
00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:54.440
Rico too.

521
00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:58.240
It's not officially at stake, it's just someplace we own. Yeah,

522
00:27:58.519 --> 00:28:02.839
that's like like other place. Holy, we never leave anywhere, Okay,

523
00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:07.359
we go, we stay forever, and we take ownership, including

524
00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:10.279
this country. Like what the fuck? We got bases all

525
00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:12.799
over this country? You own half of it a bottom

526
00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:16.880
point exactly. Both of my kids were stationed in Germany

527
00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:20.519
at one point, you know, and I'm like, it's kind

528
00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:23.480
of weird like that these people let us be here,

529
00:28:24.480 --> 00:28:26.440
you know, with our military.

530
00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:28.359
Same as Cyprus, I mean, because we were under British

531
00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:32.599
rule and then they left in nineteen fifty nine, but

532
00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:34.160
they still have two military bases.

533
00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:35.200
So it's like, oh, if you.

534
00:28:35.160 --> 00:28:37.400
Own something, then on your way out, I'll just keep

535
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:38.559
a little part for myself.

536
00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:43.359
One time, I was driving and my daughter was stationed

537
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:47.200
in bomb Holder, which is this little old German town,

538
00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:49.680
like nobody would ever know in America where that is

539
00:28:50.839 --> 00:28:54.160
unless they our military. And as I as I was

540
00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:57.440
driving there, I still had a ways to go and

541
00:28:57.480 --> 00:28:59.519
I need a gas bat and I was in the

542
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:03.400
middle of nowhere. So I hit the GPS and it

543
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:06.279
directs me to a gas station. The gas station that

544
00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:12.240
directed me too, was on base in Kremstein, and I

545
00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:17.559
was like, I did drive up and they're like, but

546
00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:21.640
it says the gas station is here, we need gas. Yeah,

547
00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:24.000
Like they were not happy with me. Try to drive

548
00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:27.319
up to the gate. You know, I'm American, Let me in.

549
00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:31.559
I'm American. Let me in now. It's the same as

550
00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:33.559
when I go home from here. I can't get into

551
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:36.359
my own country. It's so fucked up right now. Like

552
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:39.799
the last time, which was only last month, I had

553
00:29:39.839 --> 00:29:45.039
to go back home. It's funny we keep talking about immigration, okay,

554
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:48.839
but all the people that were non citizens went to

555
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:50.759
the front of line and walked right in. I had

556
00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:53.599
to sit online for two hours, and then they asked

557
00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:56.440
me ten million questions, why are you here? Well, look

558
00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:00.480
at my license. I live here, okay, but what are

559
00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:06.559
you doing here going home? Like are you fucking serious?

560
00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:10.000
You're asking me like, it's kind of fucked up right now.

561
00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:14.480
We have I don't even know what we're doing over there. Okay.

562
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:16.960
That's why I'm so happy every time I have to leave,

563
00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:19.920
and when I get home, I'm there for like thirty seconds.

564
00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:22.200
I'm like, get me back out of here. I spend

565
00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:24.319
like half the year not living there.

566
00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:26.759
Because you should move to Europe, man, I believe we

567
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:27.680
would love to have you over.

568
00:30:27.880 --> 00:30:31.759
I'm all ready, it's already on my radar. I've I

569
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:35.480
come here for like on the off season of the festivals.

570
00:30:35.519 --> 00:30:38.440
I'm kind of an idiot. I live in Florida, where

571
00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:43.319
all the snowbirds go. I live there during the hot time,

572
00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:46.200
and during winter I leave and go live in the

573
00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:50.680
Netherlands for two months, and then Denmark where it's freezing.

574
00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:54.599
So you experienced bad weather all year round. Yeah, exactly,

575
00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:56.680
because then I'm going, like during the summer to the

576
00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:01.240
UK as pie polar weather. I would love in the UK,

577
00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:05.039
but I don't need anything else, anything else bipolar in

578
00:31:05.079 --> 00:31:10.200
my life, especially weather. Okay, at Bloodstock, listen, I have

579
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:12.440
to put my hoodie on for one interview, take it

580
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:16.000
off for the next interview, put it back on. Experience

581
00:31:16.079 --> 00:31:20.480
all four seasons in one hour. I hate having a

582
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:22.880
pack to go to the UK, because I packed for

583
00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:26.920
winter and summer, and then even going to the festival,

584
00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:31.000
I pack in my bag. I'll wear shorts or jeans,

585
00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:33.359
depending on how it starts out, put the other in

586
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:36.559
my bag, put a thermal in my bag, key boots,

587
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:41.240
hoodie in my bag. Always listen over there, like download especially.

588
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:44.200
Always have to have two pairs of shoes with you.

589
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:47.799
Oh yeah, because a lot of times I come over

590
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:52.200
this direction and I'm getting rid of one pair at least.

591
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:56.279
When I did grass Pop, I literally ran out of

592
00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:00.319
three pairs. I had three pairs two years ago. I

593
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:03.160
wasn't thought a grasspop. I lost a shoe.

594
00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:06.920
I lost three pairs three I found in this store

595
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:09.240
bought a pair of like, oh fuck, I got a

596
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:11.839
buy bear. Luckily there was this store and they I

597
00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:15.000
got that big warehouse that the big warehouse place.

598
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:17.279
I'm like, I still have those boots now, I mean

599
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:20.160
no shoes now. I actually like them, but it was

600
00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:21.880
like I would have never bought them. I don't even

601
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:24.720
know the brand like it. I didn't care at that point.

602
00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:27.279
I was just walking out and my foot got stuck

603
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:29.000
in mud, and then I tried to pull it out,

604
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:30.440
and I was like, I have no shoe on.

605
00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:34.559
I'll tell you what too. Like my psychic power was

606
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:37.920
working overtime because last year I was gonna apply for

607
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:42.960
vokking and I decided not to and love what happened.

608
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:47.039
I remember watching him going, oh, thank god I didn't go,

609
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:50.680
because that was sucked and this place is too freaking

610
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:53.720
big to deal with that. I've been at festivals in

611
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:56.359
the state where literally I was knee deep in mud

612
00:32:57.119 --> 00:32:59.799
like that bad and I pulled my foot out and

613
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:03.000
I shoot income with it. That was the last time

614
00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:05.799
we did there. Are two festivals we did there. They

615
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:07.960
moved a venue after that, because you used happen every

616
00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:11.519
year one festival half of it got canceled, the other

617
00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:15.119
one completely. And it was the year you're ready for this.

618
00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:19.440
It was the year Slayer came back and they were headlining.

619
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:24.880
Now I'm like, fuck me, what, Like I'm hanging out

620
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:28.599
like no, I want to see Slayer fucking open this festival.

621
00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:31.680
Back up, man, Like, what kind of metal shit is

622
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:35.160
that You're gonna close it down by a little you know,

623
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:39.160
mud holes and shit. Come on, embrace it. Download. I

624
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:43.160
almost fucked myself up pretty bad this year cause we

625
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:46.480
got evacuated from download. I've been evacuated like so many

626
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:48.480
times this year I can't even stand it. I did

627
00:33:48.599 --> 00:33:52.240
Rockville in Florida, evacuate three out of four days. I

628
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:59.480
had forty two interview scheduled, fourteen got canceled a couple

629
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:01.960
of them in the middle. The best was do you

630
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:04.480
know the band's psycho stick? Yeah?

631
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:08.760
Yeah, okay, we got the code read during that interview.

632
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:12.800
That was the funniest shit ever. They just start freaking

633
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:15.440
out and they're right, hold on, and we didn't leave,

634
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:19.639
like they're telling us leaving we're not leaving, We're not leaving,

635
00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:22.559
and they're like, they were so fucking funny, and we

636
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:25.880
did finish the interview amazing. You know, a music is hilarious.

637
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:28.000
It would be the only thing that would have made

638
00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:31.840
better is these mics, are you know their metal? If

639
00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:34.719
while we were sitting there, the lightning came down struck

640
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:37.480
both mics, that would have been better if we were

641
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:39.599
interviewing Metallica though, for Ride to Lightning.

642
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:43.480
Yeah, and if someone was there just a snipe of picture, yeah, okay,

643
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:44.840
And so now I want your opinion.

644
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:49.480
Yeah. So the guy that hads this band on my shirt,

645
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:52.679
who I met the first Metallica show ever when he

646
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:55.880
was actually in Metallica. You know, he always talks about

647
00:34:55.920 --> 00:34:59.360
how he wrote Ride the Lightning and he put it

648
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:03.599
on the Fine No album. Do you like Metallica's version better?

649
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:07.800
Do you like Metallica's Dave mustayin version better? Or do

650
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:10.760
you like Dave Mustay and Megadeth version better?

651
00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:14.880
I think that it's a great, like, you know, complete

652
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:18.119
the cycle kind of moment. Yeah, totally, because that's the

653
00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:21.039
beginning of his career, in the end of his career. Yeah, obviously,

654
00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:22.760
I don't want to go through the whole dispute of

655
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:27.000
the Metallica and Mustay situation, because that's that's been played.

656
00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:28.000
Out to me exactly.

657
00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:34.039
I think that both versions have an equal gravity in

658
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:37.320
the history of metal itself. It's I know, obviously it's

659
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:40.360
not the end of metal that Dave Mustain is retiring,

660
00:35:41.000 --> 00:35:43.760
but he has been a huge part of it. And

661
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:46.440
I think this was a great, great, full you know,

662
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:48.639
uh finish for his career.

663
00:35:48.760 --> 00:35:50.800
I loved it as a sentiment.

664
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:55.199
I do think obviously that he's passed his prime vocally obviously,

665
00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:58.239
but I mean, I'm not gonna judge that the sentiment.

666
00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:01.880
That is personally, yeah, I think it killed him, but

667
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:04.599
he never knew how to saying anyway. I'm not even

668
00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:06.920
saying that bad way. I'm saying that because one of

669
00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:11.239
my best friends is Dan Spitz, original guitars for Anthrax,

670
00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:15.679
and he was friends with Dave, and when Dave got

671
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:18.079
kicked out of Metallicy, he said that Dave said, I

672
00:36:18.119 --> 00:36:19.480
don't know what I'm gonna do. I don't know. I

673
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:24.679
sing and Dan told him, don't sing. Talk now you

674
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:27.519
listen to Mega Death. What does he do? He talks sings,

675
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:28.400
you know.

676
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:30.920
But I mean, he's a tough thing to be compared

677
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:37.159
with James I exactly James is. It's he's one of

678
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:39.800
the best I've ever did this at least at least

679
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:40.920
my personal opinion.

680
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:44.199
And now I have a trivia question for you. What

681
00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:51.239
does he do that makes him the best fastest downpicker ever?

682
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:52.920
I think?

683
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:55.119
I mean, I saw an interview that is the way

684
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:55.800
he holds.

685
00:36:55.559 --> 00:36:59.639
Three three finger hope. Yeah, yeah, makes so much sense

686
00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:02.840
because I remember when I was playing guitar door like this,

687
00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:06.880
I kept dropping the pick. But with that you have

688
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:09.880
it tight and you can put something serious.

689
00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:14.239
But even with that man, you can never match the

690
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:17.119
speed and the precision he does.

691
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:21.800
Even after what happened to his arm, Like mad props

692
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:25.920
for James after that happening and still killing it on

693
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:26.920
the guitar like that.

694
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:29.280
And if you listen to like, there's like a lot

695
00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:34.360
of isolated guitar tracks from early albums and he triple

696
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:38.800
tracked everything so left right centered guitars and they all

697
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:40.599
sound identical.

698
00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:42.280
And it's tape. You know, it's not edited.

699
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:45.000
It's yeah, he recorded it and you hear it back

700
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:48.280
and you're like, holy shit, this man, this man can

701
00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:51.239
do what everyone now does with editing.

702
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:55.079
He could just power through it. But what's interesting about

703
00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:58.000
James is in the beginning, when Mustane was in the band,

704
00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:00.559
he hit in the back. He did he was not

705
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:03.559
a front man. Even though he was the frontman, he

706
00:38:03.639 --> 00:38:07.400
was like really shy, and he didn't come into his

707
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:10.920
own until after Mustaine was at a band. I think

708
00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:14.000
when Tallica Win never survived with Mustaane in the band,

709
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:18.199
not because of a vain talent. Three people with that

710
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:21.480
much ego is never gonna work.

711
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:23.599
You know, if you look at the outcome, instead of

712
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:26.559
having one band out of the big four, you ended

713
00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:29.440
up with two, yes exactly for everyone exactly.

714
00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:35.400
And you know, it's like another song. To compare Mechanics

715
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:40.519
to Four Horsemen. Mechanics was the original version. I like both.

716
00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:44.079
I like both. They're both cool. I think I like

717
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:49.079
the lyrics better and Four Horsemen and Mechanics, But I

718
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:52.119
mean they're both. They're like two different songs even though

719
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:53.000
they're the same song.

720
00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:56.239
You know, we got two great thrash bands out of it,

721
00:38:56.519 --> 00:38:59.639
so much metal history out of it, And you know,

722
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:02.679
I think, despite of how it happened, which was obviously

723
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:05.920
bitter and sad, I think the end result.

724
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:08.559
Was had to happen. Yeah, I had to happen. But

725
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:12.079
I do say that. You know, back then their name

726
00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:16.920
was Alcoholica, so you must be a real bad alcoholic

727
00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:21.920
to get kicked out for alcohol and Alcoholica. Like I

728
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:24.400
think about that all the time because I used to

729
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:29.199
be at those parties with them and it was prey

730
00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:32.320
out of control. But it was in the eighties. We

731
00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:36.039
don't have proof, no social media, no phones, no internet.

732
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:41.679
Thank god, there's no proof that I was in the eighties, okay,

733
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:48.360
because it's not good. Okay, And oh that's what I

734
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:51.639
forgot to bring it with me today. That's what I

735
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:54.519
was going I should pull out right now. Are you

736
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:58.880
gonna be here all weekend? Yeah? Okay. I actually I

737
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:01.599
can show you something. I'm my phone. I don't know

738
00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:05.000
if I pulled this out at Bloodstock for you, No, No,

739
00:40:05.039 --> 00:40:07.920
I think we had a very very different conversation. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

740
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:12.880
So I'm gonna show you my battle vest from the eighties. Cool,

741
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:15.840
it was before these pre made ones like you had

742
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:18.320
to do it yourself. Do you still have it like

743
00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:20.440
to back at home? I had, no, I have it

744
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:23.719
at the hotel. I use it sometimes in interviews I

745
00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:25.679
think I didn't bring it today because there's nobody that

746
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:28.760
I was interviewing that would get it and like get

747
00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:31.320
us into it, Like I don't use it all the time.

748
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:34.440
But I'll tell you who really geeked out about it,

749
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:39.800
and I'll show you Winston from Parkway Drive. Okay, Oh yeah,

750
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:43.639
he totally geeked out about Like the whole interview ended

751
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:46.000
up him just going over my battle vest. And there

752
00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:50.880
it is, and you can see the wars it's been in.

753
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:55.079
It's practically white, like from the years of like Washington,

754
00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:56.480
I never washed it.

755
00:40:56.559 --> 00:40:59.239
He never washed. That's got fun, it's got blood on it.

756
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:02.599
The past are ripped up, like when I knocked out

757
00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:03.960
my teeth fall apart.

758
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:07.119
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm not gonna fuck with it, Like,

759
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:09.239
look at it. He's gonna pull it up.

760
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:14.000
Look at that that you could tell like if anybody

761
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:17.159
wants to not believe I've been in mash pits, look

762
00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:19.199
at my fucking battle vest. What you had on the

763
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:21.000
left side. Is that one of the original muster of

764
00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:24.320
puppets one. I think it's before Master. It's a jump

765
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:27.679
in the fire one. Whoa dude, just like he was

766
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:30.519
freaking out. He's like, I've never seen a logo like that.

767
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:33.639
They never did a Devil Shit. It wasn't devilshit was

768
00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:37.079
jumping the fire, you know. And Slayer didn't even have

769
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:39.840
a patch yet. So I bought velvet lettering and ironed

770
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:42.840
it on. And they thought. People in La thought I

771
00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:44.920
was a gangbanger and that was my gang name.

772
00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:46.840
One.

773
00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:50.440
No, no, this is before Master Puppets even came out.

774
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:54.440
This is like right as Kill, mall came out some

775
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:58.199
of it before, Like I I drew on there. You

776
00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:00.000
have to come back and see me over the weekend

777
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:02.800
and I'll bring it in and some kind of a

778
00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:07.000
hole of fame, I'm telling you. And dude, I drew

779
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:10.800
all the logos on there, and there's like punk metal,

780
00:42:11.159 --> 00:42:13.760
like there's bands that don't even exist on there anymore.

781
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:18.239
Exodus the original Exoss logo I drew on there, not

782
00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:21.440
the one you know of the original one when Kirk

783
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:24.920
was in the band Nice. And how about that Kirk

784
00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:28.199
has his own band and he leaves his own band

785
00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:32.639
to join Metallica. He had to know something, but didn't

786
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:35.039
he work out better for both? I think it did

787
00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:37.320
for it. He had to know something, But I do

788
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:41.159
know that for a fact because they all, you know,

789
00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:46.000
all the bands that that group, they all knew Metallica

790
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:48.679
was something special and was going to go somewhere they

791
00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:51.719
weren't going to go. They all knew it. And that's

792
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:56.800
from their own mouths even now, you know. So maybe

793
00:42:56.800 --> 00:42:59.079
that's why he did it, you know. And then just

794
00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:02.000
it's so weird, Like I saw him with Bob McGovney

795
00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:06.000
before Cliff Burn, you know, and so it's so weird

796
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:09.480
to be how it all transpired. It's like they manufactured

797
00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:13.679
the perfect band, is what they did, you know, kids

798
00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:18.000
and Kirk. They brought in Kirk balanced because he didn't

799
00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:21.440
have ego, you know, like Dave had too much ego.

800
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:25.079
Kirk was like, yeah, I'll go along with Lars and James.

801
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:30.239
I'm cool with that, you know. And so that's like

802
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:35.320
you guys, you guys are the James and Mars.

803
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:38.679
Yeah, you can't have egos clashing in a band. No,

804
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:42.960
I mean James and Lars they both have big egos,

805
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:46.719
but for some weird reason, they're not clashing there.

806
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:48.320
They have one mind.

807
00:43:48.639 --> 00:43:52.480
They have their own side of who's who's in charge

808
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:52.800
of what.

809
00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:58.360
But there was a time in the eighties that there

810
00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:01.800
was talk of kicking laws out of and for real,

811
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:04.199
all right, that really happened.

812
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:07.280
For us, Like obviously we're a tiny speck in the

813
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:09.760
metal industry right now today.

814
00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:14.000
Yeah, after your Vadkan performance, let's hope this now like

815
00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:17.159
you're gonna be like the biggest band on the planet.

816
00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:19.400
I mean, and we do hope we have a career

817
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:19.800
in this.

818
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:23.639
But I think there's still like a part of us

819
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:26.159
that we are proud of what we're doing. Don't get

820
00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:29.480
me wrong, but there's a little a thing back of

821
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:31.320
our head saying, calm down, You've got so much work

822
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:33.159
to do, and you need to work harder, and you

823
00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:35.840
need to keep working. So our motive is to always

824
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:39.239
just work hard. Let's let's hope at some point that

825
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:41.519
we're big enough that we can have egos.

826
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:45.840
But yeah, that's that's which comes first, the ego or

827
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:47.559
the big like the chicken or the egg.

828
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:50.000
I think I think this is a great question, actually,

829
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:52.480
because I think if your ego comes before you actually

830
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:54.840
make it, that's a bad thing. But if your ego

831
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:59.000
comes because you've actually accomplished something, then you're kind of justified, right,

832
00:44:59.039 --> 00:44:59.880
I mean, you've done it.

833
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:02.679
Yeah exactly, and you're usually, and I dick about it.

834
00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:07.519
You know, ego is something people tolerate because your art

835
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:09.840
is good, your music is good. If you have the

836
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:13.159
ego and you don't have the music, then there's no

837
00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:16.119
reason for people to tolerate the ego exactly.

838
00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:20.000
And you know what I find. So I have three

839
00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:25.039
tiers for bands they interview. There's the icons, there's the

840
00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:28.000
new bands, and there's the ones in the middle that

841
00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:31.039
either they didn't make it up there but they're not

842
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:33.920
down there, or they had one hit twenty years ago

843
00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:40.199
and they're still like living in that world. Okay, the icons,

844
00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:44.039
they're cool as shit because they have no clue to

845
00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:47.280
their icons. That's why their icons, because they're all about

846
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:50.679
the music. They weren't about becoming a rock star. They

847
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:53.920
were just about the music. The new bands, you know,

848
00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:57.519
they're rising, they want promo, they're cool, they don't have

849
00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:01.960
any ego yet. It says middle that have the attitude

850
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:07.679
like I'm God's gift to music and sorry you're not.

851
00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:09.440
Yeah, and the.

852
00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:12.840
Status in the ego should be a byproduct of the music.

853
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:14.679
Not the other way around. Yeah. It's kind of like

854
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:19.239
I like to compare how Americans are. There's wealthy Americans

855
00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:22.440
that live on farms with rusty pickup trucks and you'd

856
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:25.960
never and wear overalls and you'd never know they're multimillionaires.

857
00:46:26.760 --> 00:46:31.719
Then there's any others that wear five thousand dollars suits,

858
00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:34.840
drive a Ferrari and they can't afford to pay their

859
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:39.960
rent on their apartment status, and that's big in Florida.

860
00:46:40.360 --> 00:46:44.119
It's that saying where if you if someone's a millionaire,

861
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:46.239
they'll let you know, but if they're a billionaire, you'll

862
00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:46.639
never know.

863
00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:51.960
Except for the guy that acts like he's a billionaire

864
00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:56.800
but just goes bankrupt all the time. I refer to

865
00:46:56.880 --> 00:47:04.880
him as resident Rump. I'm gonna steal that one. That's great, right,

866
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:07.679
you know. And I can't get in trouble by AI

867
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:11.920
try and go through my podcast finding you know, somebody

868
00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:14.760
making fun of him, you know, like a I won't

869
00:47:14.760 --> 00:47:18.280
pick that up, you know, and it fits perfectly, And

870
00:47:18.599 --> 00:47:21.480
you know, I shouldn't be saying shit because he lives

871
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:24.239
like fifteen minutes for me. I have to pass him

872
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:28.800
to get to my studio. That's the real I salute him,

873
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:31.639
though every time I passed the studio. It's not like

874
00:47:31.719 --> 00:47:37.079
this guy salute though, it's the good kind. Yeah, it's

875
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:39.519
just called it the good kind. It's the kind like

876
00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:42.760
at least Ronald Reagan Way went to ran in di

877
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:46.280
speech and did yav's, which means the same thing as

878
00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:49.679
the sign that I give when I'm going by. He

879
00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:54.480
acted stupid, so he insulted all of Iran, all the regime,

880
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:57.639
not the people, but the regime. But he always did that.

881
00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:00.480
So yeah, I swallow on her face and everybody's clapping.

882
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:04.559
Meanwhile he's telling the ayahtola, you know, go fuck yourself.

883
00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:09.079
But here we are again, Yeah, here we are again exactly.

884
00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:11.880
Oh my god, what the fuck? Like, maybe it's true

885
00:48:11.920 --> 00:48:14.760
you can write the same music all this year's later,

886
00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:16.519
because all you have to do is take songs from

887
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:21.159
the eighties, substitute the names, and it still applies. What

888
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:23.679
the fuck is wrong without as humans? It's gonna say.

889
00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:25.800
The thing is, you know what the teachers in schools

890
00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:28.320
that say learn from history, don't repeat it, and yet

891
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:30.119
we end up doing the same thing.

892
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:33.400
Over in history always repeats itself. Okay, this is good.

893
00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:38.599
This is gonna blow your mind. So the Spanish flu,

894
00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:42.920
the original pandemic, came out the same time as this

895
00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:47.400
pandemic one hundred years before. If you read the newspapers

896
00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:52.519
from then, same thing. Everything that happened and everything in

897
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:55.760
the media was the same. What happened after the pandemic,

898
00:48:56.079 --> 00:48:59.599
the Roaring twenties. That's kind of what we're experiencing now

899
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:03.119
because all the rich people are getting much richer. What

900
00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:06.199
came after that, though, is what's scary. You know what

901
00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:13.000
came after the Roaring twenties, right, the Great Depression? And

902
00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:16.880
you know, like the way economies are going now, inflation

903
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:19.679
all that. Guess where we're heading.

904
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:22.039
I guess we have to prove the Great Depression wrong.

905
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:24.000
It wasn't that great. You will prove them was great?

906
00:49:24.199 --> 00:49:25.639
Did I tell them better Depression?

907
00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:31.159
Right? Did I tell you at Bloodstock my cure for

908
00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:36.360
all the world's problems? Go for it? No? You have? Ah? Okay,

909
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:44.320
so it could be vaking. But one music festival that

910
00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:50.840
the whole world is required to attend, except the political leaders.

911
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:54.800
They won't get a risk band, security won't let them in,

912
00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:58.280
and we just have one big wall of death and

913
00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:01.880
mash pit and work out all our ship because listen,

914
00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:04.599
the marsh sort of like the Perge, but with music

915
00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:08.159
and not even hurting anybody, because we don't really hurt

916
00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:10.199
people in the marsh pit, of course not man, but

917
00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:13.119
we get all our shit out. Like I can't tell

918
00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:15.679
you how many people on the streets I knew that

919
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:19.239
they are safe now because I went into marsh pits

920
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:21.199
and then kicked the ship out of them.

921
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:23.960
We used to be a house band for a venue

922
00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:27.280
PAKA in our hometown in Larnaca, and we did this

923
00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:30.159
monthly shows where we also played originals and the covers.

924
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:33.920
We called it like angry music therapy session. Yeah, come here,

925
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:38.360
mash headbang go home. You know, the greatest therapy. You

926
00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:41.079
get all your anger out. Obviously, like you said, nobody

927
00:50:41.079 --> 00:50:43.320
gets hurt. Someone's on the floor, you pick them up,

928
00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:46.639
but you get all your your shit out and then

929
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:48.639
you're you're a calm person again.

930
00:50:48.800 --> 00:50:56.079
Exactly. That's why instead of arguing, picking sides, attacking, name calling,

931
00:50:56.519 --> 00:50:58.800
go in the pit, work your shit out, and then

932
00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:00.880
we could all hug each art. Is what happens at

933
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:04.880
the end. All these tough dudes are hugging each other

934
00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:10.760
after just mushing. It's the solution. Fuck the guns, fuck

935
00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:15.679
the wars, fuck the political leaders, fuck all the bullshit.

936
00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:18.800
Let's take over with one big wall of death and

937
00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:21.440
marsh pit and that's it. I think we should start

938
00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:24.039
a campaign Mush for peace. I mean, I'm down. I'm

939
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:26.079
your first supporter, man, I'm in for it, you know.

940
00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:29.000
And you know what, now that I've been to the

941
00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:32.119
Hallway Ground, now I know where I want this festival

942
00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:34.559
because I don't think there's any other festival that's big

943
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:35.880
enough to hold it.

944
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:38.599
Yeah, we may may need to expand a little bit

945
00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:42.039
for eight billion people, but sure it's no big deal.

946
00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:45.719
That big deal. Well, there is one festival in Austria

947
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:48.800
that like is free you know that way, and it

948
00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:50.320
gets like a million people.

949
00:51:50.360 --> 00:51:53.159
And this one like that, the biggest free rock festival

950
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:53.559
in Europe.

951
00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:53.960
It's the one.

952
00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:57.559
It's Poland Rock and Poland Free Festival as well, over

953
00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:02.119
a million and one point five times there. It is easy, man,

954
00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:04.440
I'm calling them up, call him up. We could have

955
00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:05.719
multiple we could.

956
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:08.280
Have one in Poland, one in Austria and one in German.

957
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:09.800
Well, I'm sure if we get all the people in

958
00:52:09.880 --> 00:52:12.280
the world, that's gonna be you know, they're gonna unite.

959
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:16.800
It's gonna be one exactly, you know how the other

960
00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:20.079
is like four pits And then it all turns into one.

961
00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:23.320
So we could have a marsh pit like three through

962
00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:28.199
three countries, like one big circle pit through all the borders.

963
00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:30.840
And instead of shuttles, we can have like flights from

964
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:33.079
one stage to the other. Exactly there you have the

965
00:52:33.079 --> 00:52:36.079
machinerup playing. Oh yeah, catch the flight at eight exactly

966
00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:38.679
there you go. We gotta make this happen. I'm with you,

967
00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:39.440
man picking up.

968
00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:42.719
I really wish he was a better person. We could

969
00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:45.519
have him spend all our US taxpayer money on that

970
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:48.280
instead of renaming the airport where I live.

971
00:52:48.679 --> 00:52:51.920
Well, there's there's a trillionaire I think in your country.

972
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:52.880
Maybe we can ask him.

973
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:56.440
Yeah, but he's a fucking asshole. Okay, I'm not talking

974
00:52:56.480 --> 00:52:59.519
to him at all. I think I'd rather talk to

975
00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:08.840
residents rump before Elon Putts. Anyway, you know, what are

976
00:53:08.840 --> 00:53:11.679
you gonna do? So how are you going to top

977
00:53:11.800 --> 00:53:15.440
Vodkin now as a band? Like, well, how you top this?

978
00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:18.440
But by coming back on a bigger stage? I think

979
00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:19.320
there it is.

980
00:53:19.679 --> 00:53:21.679
I think that's that's the I mean, there's definitely more

981
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:24.519
festivals that we want to go, I mean big or small.

982
00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:26.599
I mean we want to hit them all like Pokemons

983
00:53:26.760 --> 00:53:27.519
catch them all.

984
00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:30.800
Yeah, you could play there's another thing we could do.

985
00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:34.320
You could play poke ball. That's what it is, right

986
00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:38.920
where you go all over and like you find the

987
00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:44.039
Pokemon men in all the different festivals at the different areas.

988
00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:46.559
Like my son annoyed me as a grown adult in

989
00:53:46.599 --> 00:53:51.599
his thirties. We're driving around Germany and he's stopping everywhere

990
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:55.599
to find these stupid Pokemon Like do that on your

991
00:53:55.639 --> 00:53:58.639
own fucking time. I want to get over there. But

992
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:01.880
did he find any? Yeah, then we'd have to stop

993
00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:05.920
somewhere stupid, And I'm like, dude, I need to get

994
00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:11.800
the Vadkans stop already. It's fun right here though, Well

995
00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:16.840
there you go exactly. You know, So what else do

996
00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:18.519
you want to tell them about your band? Because we

997
00:54:18.599 --> 00:54:19.880
hardly even talked about that.

998
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:23.639
Uh yeah, I'm sure you can catch our show that

999
00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:25.840
we just had here at Vadkin. It's gonna be on

1000
00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:27.840
the official live stream. They're probably gonna post it on

1001
00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:28.880
a voking TV at some.

1002
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:33.559
Point, or or get yourself a DeLorean and go back

1003
00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:35.519
time back in time.

1004
00:54:35.360 --> 00:54:38.760
To say the right option, you know. Follow us on

1005
00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:41.400
social media. We are working on our album right now.

1006
00:54:41.559 --> 00:54:43.760
We're gonna hit the studio when we go back. Hopefully

1007
00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:46.119
we're gonna have it done by I'm gonna say early

1008
00:54:46.199 --> 00:54:50.440
next year. Probably hit some festivals, summer festivals next year.

1009
00:54:51.239 --> 00:54:53.239
If things go well, we might hit a town near you.

1010
00:54:53.599 --> 00:54:56.360
Just if you like our music, bug your own promoters

1011
00:54:56.360 --> 00:54:57.480
and ask them to book us.

1012
00:54:58.039 --> 00:55:03.920
So yeah, nice, Speaking of DeLorean, funny thing is is,

1013
00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:06.760
there was just an announcement at another festival I covered

1014
00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:11.039
in the States called Riot, theess that there's a new band,

1015
00:55:11.079 --> 00:55:14.920
the debut of a band playing there. The person who

1016
00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:18.679
formed the band what he had a whole list of demands,

1017
00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:23.800
their funniest shit. But one demand was that bitch the

1018
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:27.599
golf cart in backstage. He wants a Dolorean to go

1019
00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:32.760
to the stage. Guess who it is. It's Captain Jane's

1020
00:55:32.920 --> 00:55:37.039
t Kirk of the Enterprise William Shatner at ninety five,

1021
00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:39.880
just started a heavy metal band.

1022
00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:43.480
Oh dude, dearous, dead serious.

1023
00:55:43.679 --> 00:55:49.280
I am dead serious, said Kirk himself. Yeah, and hold on,

1024
00:55:49.400 --> 00:55:54.480
give him his chair back. You sorry, you've been stealing

1025
00:55:54.519 --> 00:55:58.880
other people's Give them their fucking chair back. Why do

1026
00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:01.480
you do that? I know I told you to, but

1027
00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:07.079
I told him not to, but he did it actually begged.

1028
00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:12.239
That's not to but I was adamant. So anyway, what

1029
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:13.960
else do you want to say about your band that

1030
00:56:13.960 --> 00:56:15.599
they need to know except they need to buy your

1031
00:56:15.639 --> 00:56:17.239
fucking merchant. They can't listen to my.

1032
00:56:17.239 --> 00:56:21.199
Show Merch Online, which is gonna be available next week

1033
00:56:21.199 --> 00:56:23.519
because we just got brand new stock and we haven't

1034
00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:25.519
been able to work it on on our pan camp

1035
00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:27.039
page yet, So give it a week.

1036
00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:29.480
Well, well, by the time the interview can't hand out. Yeah,

1037
00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:32.719
it ran out of stock because you're sold out at vaking. Okay,

1038
00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:34.440
tell he did run out of stock.

1039
00:56:34.679 --> 00:56:36.800
Truth, we did run out of stock, and we printed

1040
00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:38.719
the new design. We didn't want to reprint the old one.

1041
00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:40.719
So that's took a bit of time. We got it

1042
00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:43.000
now and it's gonna be available next week.

1043
00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:44.960
But I don't know when you're hearing.

1044
00:56:44.719 --> 00:56:48.880
This interview, so it'll be soon be next week.

1045
00:56:48.760 --> 00:56:50.360
Some time, okay, So we'll be out by the time

1046
00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:50.800
you hear this.

1047
00:56:51.159 --> 00:56:53.079
There it is, so yeah, I head onto our merch

1048
00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:56.599
side and yeah, order anything you want. You get a

1049
00:56:56.639 --> 00:57:00.920
personalized message as well, because we're the ones that's sending the.

1050
00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:04.280
Merch personally to hand deliver everything. I'll come to your door.

1051
00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:08.400
Do you use like a horse and buggy. Yeah, yeah,

1052
00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:10.480
we do the old school way, like paper like you

1053
00:57:10.519 --> 00:57:12.960
know they used to do paper rouse on the bicycle. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1054
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:15.480
we just use it on key because it's very Serpriot like.

1055
00:57:16.480 --> 00:57:19.519
I love it. Listen speak of that. You know you're

1056
00:57:19.559 --> 00:57:21.320
in Europe. When I was walking around and I saw

1057
00:57:21.400 --> 00:57:24.039
there was a parking lot for bicycles, you would never

1058
00:57:24.079 --> 00:57:26.199
see that in the United States. No, No, Europe is

1059
00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:29.760
very bicycle friendly. US people are too fucking lazy. They

1060
00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:32.079
don't even want to walk from stage to stage much

1061
00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:35.039
less right ride their bicycle somewhere. They all need the

1062
00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:36.000
electric bikes.

1063
00:57:36.199 --> 00:57:39.679
That's not exercise, dude, get a motorcycle, be a real person.

1064
00:57:41.480 --> 00:57:45.719
And the very like you know, entitled with their bike lanes.

1065
00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:48.960
Oh yeah, they're to walk on the bike lane. You

1066
00:57:48.960 --> 00:57:50.400
hear the bells coming fit me.

1067
00:57:50.599 --> 00:57:53.840
But yet they have no problem going on the sidewalk

1068
00:57:53.840 --> 00:57:56.320
where I am, where I fucking elbow, I'm back into

1069
00:57:56.320 --> 00:57:59.719
the bike lane. I'm a cyclist. I'm just gonna stay

1070
00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:04.199
out of the conversation. I'll tell you what. That's why

1071
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:08.280
I love the Netherlands. Man. I watch it's freezing cold,

1072
00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:10.440
out and he's Dutch. Just get up and go to work,

1073
00:58:10.440 --> 00:58:14.360
and they're just like smiling, and I'm like, that's bad ass,

1074
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:14.559
this man.

1075
00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:16.239
Netherlands is not a straight you know, it's not a

1076
00:58:16.280 --> 00:58:17.400
straight country's full of hills.

1077
00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:19.440
Yeah, they drive like the bicycle.

1078
00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:22.639
The ride is a one year yeah, and they go

1079
00:58:22.760 --> 00:58:27.519
uphill with one year minus five degrees going to work smiling.

1080
00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:31.039
I'm like, what the fuck are they on right? Amazing?

1081
00:58:31.400 --> 00:58:33.480
Well, I mean they are well, I mean yeah, they

1082
00:58:33.519 --> 00:58:36.519
are a numsterdown So so you know what. I had

1083
00:58:36.559 --> 00:58:39.199
a nice long break, the only one of the day

1084
00:58:39.280 --> 00:58:44.039
between interviews, and I used it for this and now

1085
00:58:44.119 --> 00:58:46.440
I have to actually end it because I do actually

1086
00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:48.119
have to go to another interview.

1087
00:58:48.280 --> 00:58:48.480
Yeah.

1088
00:58:48.559 --> 00:58:50.519
Man, we really appreciate you, man. And that's all right.

1089
00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:53.159
I couldn't eat that whole thing anyway. Like in the States,

1090
00:58:53.280 --> 00:58:55.960
you pay twenty dollars for a little slice of pizza,

1091
00:58:56.239 --> 00:59:00.360
I paid thirteen euro fourteen euros and this thing was huge.

1092
00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:03.719
That's another excuse for you to move to Europe. I'm

1093
00:59:03.760 --> 00:59:06.800
telling you, I have my passport on me at all

1094
00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:09.639
times if I need to make escape, because I think

1095
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:12.320
I'm a Jew. The next thing happened in my country

1096
00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:17.840
is concentration camps. Okay, and I'm out. I'm moving to

1097
00:59:17.920 --> 00:59:20.840
Germany to get away from the concentration camps. I'm just

1098
00:59:20.920 --> 00:59:25.280
telling you that's a juxtaposition, right, you know. I mean, like,

1099
00:59:25.400 --> 00:59:28.679
oh my god, it's it is pretty sad. But I

1100
00:59:28.719 --> 00:59:31.559
love it here and I love vaking, and I love

1101
00:59:31.599 --> 00:59:35.760
you guys. I'm glad you stock. I'm glad you stalked me.

1102
00:59:36.199 --> 00:59:38.880
I'm glad I was on my break and we got

1103
00:59:38.880 --> 00:59:41.079
this taken care of. Look he even has a star

1104
00:59:41.239 --> 00:59:46.239
David over here. It's hidden in the lines, it is, Yeah,

1105
00:59:46.519 --> 00:59:49.559
I can see it. It does look like a star

1106
00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:54.119
David on there. So see, you're my kindred spirit.

1107
00:59:54.239 --> 00:59:56.440
Yeah. I guess we'll run into you, or we will

1108
00:59:56.480 --> 00:59:59.400
stalk you in another festival next year. Yeah, I'll be

1109
00:59:59.440 --> 01:00:02.119
at Bloodstart next week, so we'll get in neice that

1110
01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:02.679
one this year.

1111
01:00:02.920 --> 01:00:05.360
Yeah, well then you're fucked next year. I got I

1112
01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:07.960
got another one coming up. I got Rockklahoma coming up

1113
01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:11.599
and Labor Day weekend. That's a fun festival. Then I

1114
01:00:11.599 --> 01:00:16.400
have Louder than Life after Shock, oh busy man, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1115
01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:18.840
I bet I started in March, like I have the

1116
01:00:18.920 --> 01:00:23.480
longest tour ever for festivals. Like, I know, I don't

1117
01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:26.000
even get a break. I didn't even sleep yet since

1118
01:00:26.039 --> 01:00:28.039
I got to Germany. He's a break. When you're doing

1119
01:00:28.079 --> 01:00:31.119
that life, you get fun. It's so much fun. My

1120
01:00:31.199 --> 01:00:34.039
youngest story. I'll bring her sometimes festival. Halfway through the

1121
01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:35.639
first day, She's like, Dad, I don't know how you

1122
01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:38.280
do this every weekend. I'm done already. I'm like, we

1123
01:00:38.280 --> 01:00:41.360
you mean you're done. I was here four hours before you.

1124
01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:44.960
You mosied in, like after sleeping all morning, I already

1125
01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:49.000
did ten interviews. You know, you are like a do

1126
01:00:49.119 --> 01:00:52.039
a soul battery man. Like the my son in law,

1127
01:00:53.440 --> 01:00:56.000
We're at this festival a couple of months ago and

1128
01:00:56.079 --> 01:00:59.119
my son in law tells this girl I'm with. She goes,

1129
01:00:59.239 --> 01:01:02.119
He goes, there's two things you have to know about Dean.

1130
01:01:02.440 --> 01:01:08.639
That's my real name. Don't tell anybody, okay, and nobody

1131
01:01:08.679 --> 01:01:11.679
can keep up with them. And he'll make sure you

1132
01:01:11.800 --> 01:01:17.079
know it and that nothing is bored true. Okay. I Like,

1133
01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:20.639
after I do what my ten or whatever interviews today

1134
01:01:21.320 --> 01:01:25.440
and I'm done, I'll be out there wandering the whole

1135
01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:28.679
holy ground. I want to touch my feet on every

1136
01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:30.639
part of the Holy Ground before the end of the night.

1137
01:01:30.679 --> 01:01:32.880
If we see you at any point doing this weekend,

1138
01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:35.360
we'll buy you a beer. Find me in the find

1139
01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:37.360
me in the pits, in the pit, look in the.

1140
01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:40.960
Pits in the in the mushpits of piece, the mashpit

1141
01:01:41.039 --> 01:01:41.480
of peace.

1142
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:45.039
That is it. That's where we have to end it

1143
01:01:45.119 --> 01:01:49.400
right there, because you know what you guys are the

1144
01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:54.679
epitome of what a band should be, and what metal

1145
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should be and what ma washing should be. Thank you

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so much much. And next year we'll see on the

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main stage at Bocket Nice. Sure hope, So man, sure hope.

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So thanks once again for stalking me and being on

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the Adventures of pipe Man. Thank you, pipe Man. Thank

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you for listening to the Adventures of pipe Man. I'm

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w for CUI Radio.