Aug. 2, 2026

From Opera to Metal: Heaven Queen’s Journey and Festival Adventures

From Opera to Metal: Heaven Queen’s Journey and Festival Adventures
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The conversation focused on the dynamic life, music, and journey of La Vero from Heaven Queen during the Wacken festival. The discussion explored La Vero’s background, experiences in the Dutch and European metal scenes, her work supporting touring bands, and her own musical evolution. Personal stories, cultural observations, musical philosophy, and industry anecdotes provided an in-depth look at the realities of life as a working artist in the metal community.Main Topics Covered

  • Origins and experiences at Wacken and other European festivals
  • The evolution of music consumption and the importance of song structure
  • Cultural contrasts and stories from travels in the Netherlands and beyond
  • La Vero’s multifaceted career in the music industry
  • The role of heavy subjects and personal struggle in songwriting
  • The supportive nature of the metal community
  • Opera and classical influences in metal vocals
  • Details on Heaven Queen’s new music and collaborations
  • Importance of authenticity and diversity in artistic creation
  • How listeners can support and connect with Heaven Queen
Key Discussions & StoriesWacken Festival Experience
  • One concept discussed was the unique atmosphere at Wacken, with La Vero describing her thirteenth visit as a homecoming 01:03.
  • A key theme that emerged was how being a “virgin” at Wacken adds intimacy and mystery to the experience 01:14.
Evolution of Songwriting and Attention Spans
  • The discussion explored changes in how listeners engage with music, lamenting the trend toward short attention spans and the loss of song "buildup" in modern songwriting 02:09.
  • Several points were raised, including how iconic long songs like “Bohemian Rhapsody” or “Hotel California” could struggle in today’s market 02:21.
Cultural Anecdotes & Travel Stories
  • Entertaining accounts of Amsterdam’s coffee houses, red and blue light districts, and music bars painted a vivid cultural backdrop 04:11.
  • Adventures with potent Dutch cannabis, including mishaps and first-timer stories, offered humor and insight into Dutch culture 07:02.
  • Musings on favorite Dutch cities, local food, and the beauty of older architecture versus modern reconstructions 10:05, 14:36.
The Metal Community & Working in the Industry
  • La Vero described her diverse roles: band host, merchandiser, interviewer, makeup artist, and more, illustrating the supportive, interconnected European metal scene 05:00, 15:05.
  • The conversation focused on the difference between media access and community mentality at European versus American festivals 11:16.
From Personal Struggles to Songwriting
  • A key theme that emerged was the role of trauma and resilience, with La Vero sharing candidly about themes like loss, abuse, and therapy through music 21:20.
  • The discussion explored how turning personal pain into music offers healing both to artist and listener 21:49.
Musical Roots and Influences
  • La Vero traced her journey from church choir to opera, to blues and jazz bands, then finally to metal 24:35, 31:16.
  • One concept discussed was the importance of formal/classical training and its prevalence among metal vocalists 28:23.
New Heaven Queen Music & Collaborations
  • La Vero described upcoming tracks, themes of dementia, loss, celebration, and the presence of special guest musicians, including Mike LePond (Symphony X) and members of Bruce Dickinson’s band 35:28.
  • Several points were raised, including the idea of genre crossover, diversity of emotion in albums, and the inclusion of themes such as eroticism blended with personal experience 37:30.
Notable Quotes
  • “The Netherlands has always been about music and metal… there’s this passion. The first big metal festival was in the Netherlands, and maybe because we are open-minded.” 20:38
  • “Music is the best therapy ever, for the artist but also for the listener.” 21:53
  • “What does the song need? The message, the emotion—how does it make your heart pump?” 24:01
  • “I sang before I could speak.” 24:35
  • “My music is acceptable for everyone… Of course, there’s a little erotic side always.” 37:20
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Hi you love ONNT Yes, Sue se Wow for you your.

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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe

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Man W four c Y Radio.

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And I'm here with I'm lave hero from Heaven queen.

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Oh. I'm very excited you're here with me at fucking.

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Of course, and I'm having such a blast and it's

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my honor and pleasure to talk to you.

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Well my pleasure as well, and like I don't know

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if anybody told you what we were doing audio, I

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don't know why you got all dressed up and beautiful

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for the interview, but I like it.

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Thank you so much, darling. It's especially for you, of course.

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Of course, of course.

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Yeah.

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So what's your feeling being here on the Holy ground?

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Well, this is my thirteenth time here.

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Whoa.

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So for me it's like coming home.

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I see that, because it's like that for me at

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other festivals. This one. I'm a virgin. Oh my god, yes,

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you took my virginity here at Vakin Wow.

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I'm very honored.

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And the fit are closed on exactly. Sometimes it's better

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that way, right, I think, so, yes, more intimates, more mysteryes,

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like yeah, and think about it. It is what happens

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like when you have clothes on, there's a lot more

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intimacy and then you do whatever and then you're done.

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I like the build up long foreplay exactly, and.

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I feel the same about music, well, because I feel

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the same way about music. Yes, you know music, I

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think I don't know. With the algorithms nowadays and people's

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attention span, they're current eliminating that parts of music, and

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I like that, like the build up. Some of my

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favorite songs ever had a build up to.

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It and this is how it was all the time.

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But now with a short tension span, you have to

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make an impression in like twenty seconds all day skip you.

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And that might be too long twenty seconds or so.

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Hey, but the best songs Bohemian, Repsity, Hotel California, all

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those old school really rock and metal ballads especially, they

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are all for eight minutes and you cannot pull it

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off anymore.

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No, And I'll even go a step further. Some of

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the most brutal metal songs started with this intro that

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if you only gave it twenty seconds, you will skipped

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the track and missed, like one of the best songs ever.

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I you have no idea which genre it actually is,

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because some of the death or tress metal music out there,

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they start with some nice classical vibe and then they

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just common hard. If you don't know that you skipped

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a song because you think it's a different song you

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listen to.

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And a perfect example is a German band except Fast

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as a Shark. If you only listen to the very

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beginning of that very beginning, it does like this old

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school German thing where it's a high, the high, the

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hu and then it does that for a while. You

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want saur Kraut with Yeah, not me, but you would.

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It's funny. I was just talking to Lucas from Napalm

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Records out there, and I hate zaur Kren So is

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he okay?

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Dandel's blatfast.

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I don't like that either. I'd be I'd make a

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terrible German.

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Yes you would, right, Yeah, Luckily I'm Dutch.

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See, and I love the Netherlands.

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You like oh cheese, oh the beer?

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I like well. I like the women, I like the scenery.

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I like the coffee houses, of course, But you know what,

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things the way they are around the world now, it's

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not even such a big deal. Like I remember, I

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was thirty years old I went to Amsterdam for the

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first time, and I was like, whoa.

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Let me guess which district you went. It has something

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to do with lights and reds.

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I did that one too, but I was married, so

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it was with my wife. Just check it out. And

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then at one point I didn't know where it meant

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to a little after we were walking down the blue

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light district. You know that part, right, of course you do,

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And wow, I didn't mean it that way.

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The cave it's a metal bar just outside the district.

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And I took the guys from Sapotoon there when they

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in the Milcreek. And yeah, I'm also a bent host.

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I do merchandise. I'm on tours with bands. I actually

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do interviews for their broadcastings.

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And oh so you could, I'm already during this interview.

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We do this together, exactly, exactly, already told me about

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your wife.

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Well not anymore, she divorced from her for many years,

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but yes, well I will tell you a funny story

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about that though. So we get there, Like I used

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to be in the investment business. It was before the internet,

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so I couldn't do any you know, long trips, only

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weekend trips. So we did weekend trip to Amsterdam. Get

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off the plane off of red Eye in the morning

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and she's tired, so she wants to go to the hotel.

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I'm like, you're at your mind. I just arrived in Amsterdam.

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The hotel is not the first place I'm going, and

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we only have the weekend we're going straight to. And

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at that time, the Grasshopper was.

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It's still there.

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Well it's still there, but it's more of a restaurant.

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But then it was the old place, like downstairs was

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the coffee house. Upstairs was alcohol because I thought it

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was funny that it was like illegal to have alcohol

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and the other stuff on the same floor.

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But that has a reason because when I'm with dance

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as well, I tell them make your choice, or you

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smoke the wheat or you do the alcohol, because if

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you mix it and you're not usage, you gets really

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really sick and end up in hospital.

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Well that's true.

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That's why they separated. If you smoke that, you just

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don't get another drink or only the soft rinks. It

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is for mental and physical health.

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Right, And you know what too, is it hits a

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little different there. All of my old high school stoner

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friends in America that could handle anything. All of them

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like face planked in Amsterdam, of course, because we had

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good stuff exactly. And I was there during the cannabis cuff.

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So I got to tell you what happened. The server

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comes up with the menu, and so I just asked him.

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I'm like, what's give me something mellow? I don't want

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I wanted to start off mellow.

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So you started with the white widow.

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Me actually gave me some Jamaica and I don't even

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remember what it was. But then after I did that,

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I'm like, oh, okay. And so just to give you

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a little context, my wife didn't smoke. She knew I did,

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but she can never tell when I did because I

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did it more like you know, somebody drinks a glass

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of wine. It just slowed me down to a normal person.

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Do you Yeah, a normal person. Yeah, they don't become normal.

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That's boring.

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I'm never normal, okay, but at least I was relaxed,

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you know. And you couldn't tell if I smoked or not.

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So then I say, a server, okay, now give me

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the best shit you got.

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Oh god.

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And it was called uh white weirdo widow. No, there

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was a weirdo.

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There's a weirdo version. Okay, yes, oh that would you.

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And then they had they had a bond that was

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like this high. I'm like, I want that bond. And

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I took one hit at that bong, that white weirdo.

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And then we went to a Chinese restaurant to eat

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and I looked at the menu and I looked at

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my wife. I'm like, I can't do this. She's like,

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what are you talking about. I'm like, I can't do this.

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I am so high, Please God let me come down.

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And she was so shocked, like this, she never saw

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me like that. Now, I'm also somebody that I didn't drink,

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so I just don't like it. Once in a while,

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now I will, but I don't really like it. So

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the last day we're there, I convinced her to smoke.

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We made a deal. I said, I'll drink a beer

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if you smoke. So she's like, okay, give me the

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mellow stuff you got. So I gave that to her first.

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You gave her the weirdo not yet.

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I gave that to her first, and then she, oh,

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that's not bad, I'll take some more. That's when I

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packed the weirdo. You're bad she laughed for four hours

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straight without taking a.

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Breath, and munchies she didn't need to eat.

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I don't even remember that part. I just remember it

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was so funny that she was just laugh and then

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laugh and then laugh and then you know. Of course

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I never got to see her stone, so that was

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that was my entertainment. So that was my first experience

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in Amsterdam. Okay, But now I loved the Netherlands. I

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don't just love Amsterdam. I love dun Hog. What amazing

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food in dun Hog.

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But I'm sorry. I'm from Antover.

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Yeah, so like I've been to Eindhoven, but I've never

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really dove in. Like I'm the type that when I

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go to other countries, I go with the locals, you know,

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I don't go with the tourists. I want to see

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what it's really like.

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But you know, before vodka, before health as for everything,

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you had Dynamo be air. Yeah, I lived five minutes

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from there, so as a child, I was hanging out

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my window and I hear Metallica play.

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Oh I love that. That is awesome. That's one I

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haven't done yet. Because your country it's different when it

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comes to festivals, they like they don't really like outsiders

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at the festivals, like who tells you this, Well, here's

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what well Eindhoven Metal meeting. I had the publicist for

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that said, oh, I'm going to bring you next year,

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and then she told me she couldn't because basically they're

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more like about their community there.

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Now it's about the people they know, but the community

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is still from all of the World's okay because I

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know the organization and because it's in a relatively smaller venue.

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It's not small small a couple of thousand people, but

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backstage it is really for the artists and there is

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just a separate part also for the media. Yeah, you

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cannot have a whole well that it's not like Waker here.

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You can have like Siphon the people doing the press,

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we might have twenty. You have to be particularly selective

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who is doing this shit about those bands?

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Which I'm okay with that because that's why I like

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doing the European and UK festivals, because they really vet

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the media in the States. Not always usually Usually it's

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like you get people in the media that shouldn't be

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in media. They're there the fanboy or fan girl out.

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Yeah.

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True, And I'm a pro pro I don't want to

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deal with that because then the bands don't want to

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come back the press when you have that going on.

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So I have the respect for that over here. And

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I did apply I think it was last year to

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Dynamo and I got turned down. But then I was

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talking Christian from Season of Miss and he said, oh,

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I'll get you in next year.

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Okay, so are you going to be there?

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I didn't talk. I tried talking to I haven't talked

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to him about it really for this year. I don't

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know why.

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It would be lovely to see you there.

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Also, oh and if it's not this year, I'll be

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next year. I'll figure it out.

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It's like the ten minutes from a house.

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There's no guarantee either. So if you have connections too,

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I'll take all the connections I could get.

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Well, I can offer space because I have a guest

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room for bends with eight people I can host, so

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if you can crush in one of the guest rooms.

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So if my country really goes as ship, I can

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come live with you. I'm just kidding.

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You can be in one of the bunk bends, yes, but.

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Seriously though, that is one on my list. Dynamo and

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I did it like I've driven all over your country,

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and I've taken trains all over your country. I just

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like the whole country. I'm a surfer, so that's one

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of the reasons I like then Hog because there's water

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out there, and I haven't surfed there because I go

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during the winter like an idiot. The last time a

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couple of years ago I lived there. I decide to

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make a change after that because at least for some reason,

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as an idiot, go during the winter. And last time

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I was there for like two and a half months

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and I had three hours of sunlight the whole time.

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Yeah, we can have dark winters.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was like, yeah, I'm stupid.

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I'm not doing this again. I gotta do it during

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the summer, not during the winter.

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Yeah, but now it's going to be so hot it's

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like sometimes over forty degrees.

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That doesn't bar me because I'm here. I'm in South Florida,

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so and I have been there in the summer a

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few years ago. While I was there in the summer,

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my Airbnb host said it was the it was the

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warm as it's ever been in her whole life.

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You know what struck me is. I was on the

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seventy cat this year. First time I go to America,

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we go to the Bahamas. You think, what's happened? It snowed,

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Holy shit, in February packed. I've was packed. All happened, No,

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only the time that I am there. So it's your fault, man,

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of course I'm the ice Queen, right, yeah.

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And I will tell you the first time I drove

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into Rotterdam, I was like, oh my god, this is

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the most beautiful city in the world, you know, because

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it's the city that's reconstructed. But it's so cool with

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the lights and everything. Yeah, you know, but I do

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like the old school architecture in Europe, you know, So

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even though I liked that in that respect, it was

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just the drive in, you know, but having modern I

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could do that in the United States. I come over here,

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I like, but.

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Then you have to go to the old towns exactly,

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the old architects exactly. I actually live in a house

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from eighteen ninety.

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Wow.

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I live in historical buildings.

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I love that. And then I brought a couple of

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years ago, I brought two of my daughters like for

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part of the time for New Year's because I absolutely.

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Of all the places I've been so far, I love

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Amsterdam New Year's better than anywhere in the world so far,

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and I'm from New York. It's way better than Times Square.

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Times Square actually sucks.

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So if you ever come back to Nellon's one of

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the kind the cities I would advise you to go. Is.

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It has the old church, it has the old canals,

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and it's more mellow than Amsterdam or Rotterdam. It's because

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it's in the south. The people are not.

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There right well, you'll have to take me around. See.

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That's why I like the locals, the real place. It's

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just like if you came to Florida or you even

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went to New York, I would take you to. Most

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people don't see the real place.

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Actually, I was after the seventy K We went to

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Florida to see the guys from Crimson Glory. Lee Hardson

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from Austar City, the old tool manager from mobid Angel

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is now also near Tempa. He works there. So this

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time I went to see my friends I know from

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music and Yeah tomorrow they play here Clinton Glory with

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them and stuff. And it was the first time that

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I got to the other sites. And because I've been

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working red bands and singing for like thirteen years now.

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No no no, no, no no. In metal, I sing

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for thirty years. I did a lot before that, but

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it was so cool that for this time they actually

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showed up for me instead of that I was arranging

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things for them and nice. And then you see how

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cool the community is, and especially for Puanshee, the old

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tool manager of Morbid Angel, says, all the time I've

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been touring, people only text met for guest list, but

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for you, I could always cong down. But now that

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I'm here with my family, I stopped touring. Nobody gives

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a damn about me anymore. And he was so surprised

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that I called him like, hey, dude, I'm in Florida,

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going to be in Tempa Area. Do you want to

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hang out? And You're like, what the fuck?

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Nice?

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Yeah, but this is friendship.

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It's not a way it should be. That's where it

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should be. And I'm gonna tell you right now. I

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live on an island, a small barrier island, where it's

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got the best reef in the world, second best to

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the Great Barrier reef, and I have a three hundred

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and sixty degree view of water. So you're welcome to

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come visit a time I would be and I'll take

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you all over where nobody would take you.

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Okay, I have to make a short stop because your

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next person, you're going to interviews outside, so I got

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to instruct my manager to get him for you for

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later outside.

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Get okay, let's continue, continue, no problem. That was our

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commercial break.

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Yes, I'm just arranging your calendar right now.

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I know. See you're so good. But you know, so

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what I was saying about my doors is so I

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brought them m and it was winter. I not only

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did I bring them to like everywhere else, but I

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said you now, right now, I'm drawing a blank because

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I've had no sleep in three days. But the place

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that has like the apple pie that people come from

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around the world. I forget the name right the second,

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but I brought him there, and you know that had

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a long line and it's very different, like we call

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America like apple pie is our thing. I don't like

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apple pie in America. The one at that place in Amsterdam,

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like it's off the beaten path, but it's known around

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the world.

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People didn't have space and what did it hit by run?

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And it did it have what in it marijuana?

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No, it was just a restaurant. But it's known for

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its apple pie. It's like cake, which we don't have

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in the States. Ours is like like soupy, you know.

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It's got like yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like you're eating

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a mush pits.

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Yeah, and that's perfect, yes, And I like mosh pits,

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but I don't like mosh pits in my apple pie,

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not in your stomach. So I even love it there,

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I'll probably remember as soon as the interview's over. And

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then there's one place the like small list, either bar

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or restaurant. I think it's restaurant in the world. It's

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like you go up these stairs and I think it's

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just two tables. Yeah, So stuff like that's cool to me,

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you know, not the tourist need bullshit, you know. And

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when I went there and living, I didn't live in Amsterdam.

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Well one time I did on a houseboat, but one

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time I lived in Amstelmen, you know, because I wanted

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to be out in the residential area, not the tourist area.

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Why is it though, people like you come from the

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Netherlands and you're such amazing.

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Artists, because the Netherlands has always been about music and

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the metal like the gathering with dentation if it comes

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to symphonic metal. But I make also it started in

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the Netherlands Apoka also, so we have like a history

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of great music. We have good water because what is

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some of the cleanest in the worlds at least in

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the south of the Netherlands. And there's this passion. As

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I said, the first big metal festival was in the Netherlands.

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And maybe because we are open minded.

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There you go. That could be a really good reason.

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Could also be the winters.

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And we also don't skip on heavy subjects because for example,

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my album I talk about the death of my children.

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I talk about going through being in a hospital, being

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alone for months and months because people start to forget you.

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My own as a child, I've been abuse, sexual and

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mentality and physical. I think about Oh no, I now

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turned it into music and I help other people going

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through it.

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Best therapy ever.

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Actually, this is what music did to me, and this

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is what I'm giving back now.

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I love that because it is the best therapy ever

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for you, the artists, but also meet a listener. Yeah,

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that's the beauty of metal too.

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Well, you can find it in any genre, but in

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our genre, in metal, it's more. People don't just start

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listening to metal. They have a story already. They're most

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of some highly intelligence because if you go see proc,

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metal is like high science and music, So you don't

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just go there to listen nice, because it's too complicated

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for just to be.

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Nice, right exactly. And I love that you deal with

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heavy subjects because I think that's what people need. That's

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the point of music is, you know, there's something for

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everybody for whatever you're going through, and especially now more

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than ever, with all the craziness in the world, I

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think we need music more than ever, especially your type

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of music.

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Thank you. I did you listen to my music already?

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Of course I fucking did.

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So what kind of song did you like best?

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Do I remember the song? I don't remember the song.

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I don't even remember some of the songs of my

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favorite bands. But but I like the fact that you're

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a true artist, and I like that you are diverse.

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You know, it's like a lot of metal nowadays, it's

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kind of like formulas. Yeah, you know, they just plug

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in the formulas and it's to me boring. Like I

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like the diversity. I like when songs, not only songs,

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but the songs itself have it's like telling a story,

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you know, and going through the emotions of that story,

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and then on an album, I don't want to hear

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the same song every song.

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Yeah, I like crossover a genre. So right as you

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had listened to I have a walls, I have a tango,

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I have ballads, I have power metal. For me, it's like,

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what does the song need to message that I want

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to bring? What is the she behind it? And how

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does it make your heart pump?

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Yes?

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And sometimes she needs mellow and sometimes she just needs.

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Upbeats, right, But I do think you need it all

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And like, that's what makes a great album when it's

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got that diversity to it, because if it's the same

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song every song, you only have to listen to one,

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you know, and that it gets boring. Exactly, So, when

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did you start becoming an artist? I don't mean when

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you formed a band or whatever. In your head and

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in your heart.

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I sang before I could.

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Speak nice And how that happened? Was it because of

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you or did my grandfather?

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My grandfather had the biggest opera house in the Netherlands.

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Oh wow, I grew up with that, and my mom

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has been two times touch Brittanic Gymnastics champion. I started

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also ice figure skating because I have hid I don't

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know if I pronounced correctly, but I was all over

447
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the place as a child. I did my violin less,

448
00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:11.160
the singing, less, skating for over thirty hours a week.

449
00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:16.079
And yeah, I was always in the spotlight. I was

450
00:25:16.119 --> 00:25:21.039
a child model. I grew up in the spotlight, so

451
00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:22.640
for me it was just natural.

452
00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:26.559
How do you feel about now as an adult that

453
00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:29.960
you were brought up in the spotlight? Do you? I'm

454
00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:32.079
sure you have both sides of it parv it good,

455
00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:34.680
but part of it like maybe no, no, no, it was.

456
00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:36.000
Always handled very well.

457
00:25:36.279 --> 00:25:36.799
I didn't know.

458
00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:39.839
I didn't feel like I was special. I didn't get

459
00:25:39.839 --> 00:25:42.599
an ego, and that is what I think is most important.

460
00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:46.160
And you don't even feel like your parents like were

461
00:25:47.119 --> 00:25:50.240
putting you in there because it's what they're doing it

462
00:25:50.599 --> 00:25:52.200
that see, that's amazing that.

463
00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:56.960
With my singing, I started in the chairs choir. My

464
00:25:57.000 --> 00:26:02.039
first performance was fast in church. Damn all through schools.

465
00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:07.680
Yeah, okay, so sing for me the first church song

466
00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:08.759
you sang.

467
00:26:09.920 --> 00:26:11.279
Thank you? I lost my voice.

468
00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:13.680
I told you I was gonna do it to you.

469
00:26:13.799 --> 00:26:15.559
Okay, no, no, I don't go to do the first

470
00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:16.519
song because in English.

471
00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:22.240
But I heard of us a secret card David played

472
00:26:22.359 --> 00:26:23.880
and it pleased the Lord.

473
00:26:24.839 --> 00:26:31.720
But you don't really care about it, do you goose?

474
00:26:31.880 --> 00:26:39.039
That is the full the fifth mine a fall, majorly bad,

475
00:26:39.240 --> 00:26:45.880
the thing compassing heneluja.

476
00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:48.039
I fucking love it even with you. I have a

477
00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:52.000
lost voice, so man, I can't wait for listeners to

478
00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:57.240
hear the full voice because like I know we've been talking.

479
00:26:58.400 --> 00:27:01.039
My voice is bad right now is worse.

480
00:27:01.319 --> 00:27:04.400
Yeah, because I've been in fields with all the dust exactly,

481
00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:08.240
and I just had a tonsal surgery a few months ago,

482
00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:10.160
so all the dust now stuck too.

483
00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:13.240
Well. You know what, It's funny you bring up the

484
00:27:13.319 --> 00:27:16.480
dust because I own like I always get the festival dust,

485
00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:20.720
you know, from festivals, like every morning this week, I'm

486
00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:23.319
like trying to get it out so I can do interviews.

487
00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:27.319
But yeah, but I'm always like, man, how does singers

488
00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:30.920
do it? Because that's even worse of me.

489
00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:34.400
Two days ago, I was on the wet stage as

490
00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:38.400
I was dancing the DJ sets. Like two hours I

491
00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:41.200
was on the stage just dancing, dancing and pumping off

492
00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:43.480
the audience, so I had to scream because there was

493
00:27:43.480 --> 00:27:46.079
no mic. So next morning you didn't want to hear me.

494
00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:47.200
I was like a cold girl.

495
00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:52.880
I have some of that voice lot, you know the

496
00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:56.759
ones all the singers use. I have losengers. Okay. I

497
00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:58.119
was gonna say, if you need it, well.

498
00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:00.880
Oh yeah, but I have it at my tense. Yes. Please.

499
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:04.240
That stuff that we vocals on, we don't have that

500
00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:06.039
in the States. That stuff's like magic.

501
00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:08.720
Do you believe in magic?

502
00:28:09.680 --> 00:28:14.680
There? It is? There, it is? So what would you

503
00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:19.400
say led you to medal from that start of church

504
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:23.400
and anything else you did? And did you sing opera too?

505
00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:27.279
Yes, I've been studying opera since I was very young,

506
00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:31.720
but they only let me sing like open opera after

507
00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:34.319
I was fifteen or so. Becus then your vocal cars

508
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:35.960
can actually handle it.

509
00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:39.759
Yes, exactly. And okay, I have a trivia question for you. First,

510
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:46.400
what singer of a band playing at Vakin besides you

511
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:52.480
it was is has an opera training?

512
00:28:54.839 --> 00:28:57.440
Not this year, but did you know that the guy

513
00:28:57.759 --> 00:28:59.519
from Rmstein.

514
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:02.480
I didn't know that, but that makes sense.

515
00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:07.160
Almost every vocalist I know in metal has a classical

516
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:09.880
training behind her, So you.

517
00:29:09.880 --> 00:29:12.640
Don't know the one that I'm talking about today or

518
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:14.319
not today. But is it today?

519
00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:16.480
Maybe I have to see the lineup because I've been

520
00:29:16.519 --> 00:29:19.559
here already for four days, so I don't know who's

521
00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:22.240
playing today to go into. My first thing on my

522
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:25.119
schedule was the interfere with you, and before that, take

523
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:27.240
a shower. So I just rolled out of bed, take

524
00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:28.200
a shower, and run to you.

525
00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:34.160
All right, So I'll give you a hint. Okay, think

526
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:44.440
of the initials r h H. Yes, our H. It

527
00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:47.720
might not be the band name i'm referring to either.

528
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:50.160
No, no, no, it's too early.

529
00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:53.599
Give it to me a singer. I'll give you another hint.

530
00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:58.119
If he breaks the law, he won't be able to

531
00:29:58.160 --> 00:29:59.519
do his set.

532
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:01.279
Breaking a law, breaking the law.

533
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:02.839
Okay, there you go.

534
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:05.279
I'm terrible with names, but Alford.

535
00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:11.400
Rob Alford, So of course fuck you could say whatever

536
00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:12.319
the fuck you want.

537
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:18.359
Okay, fucking hell yeah, see I stomped you.

538
00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:22.039
I love stumping artists. It's fun, okay, you know, because

539
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:25.200
you really do know the answer, but it's not there

540
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:27.720
in the moment spots exactly.

541
00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:29.880
It's normally when I do interviews, I get the questions

542
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:32.200
up fronts, so I can prepare. I'm like going in

543
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:32.839
blind here.

544
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:36.440
Yeah, you'll never get that with me, and I.

545
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:40.440
Really like it. Actually, I'm like yesterday when we had

546
00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:44.400
fears together. It's I'm talking to her friends.

547
00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:47.359
Exactly that, And that's what this should be. Yeah, you

548
00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:51.160
know that's my belief. Interviews should just be a conversation,

549
00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:53.119
take take a life of its own.

550
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:56.319
Yes. So, so I'm here to talk about my music.

551
00:30:56.359 --> 00:30:59.519
And we started talking about opera and whed in the

552
00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:00.000
coffee shop.

553
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:05.480
But it's a warm up, it's the it's it's the foreplay.

554
00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:08.160
Oh my god, we're there against but with the clothes

555
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:09.200
on exactly.

556
00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:12.440
So going back to what I asked you, like, So,

557
00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:14.920
what led you from church to metal?

558
00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:19.680
It was a long way because from church I went

559
00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:22.200
from there to chess and blues. The first band I

560
00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:25.200
was in was a jazz and blues band I did

561
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:29.599
at A James and from there I had my first

562
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:32.880
betty surgeries because I have a colostomy back or stoma

563
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:35.279
as people know it. The doctor said I could not

564
00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:39.720
saying I had feeding tubes and everything. So I started

565
00:31:39.759 --> 00:31:44.720
dancing again. I danced for in the go Go dance scene.

566
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:48.000
I worked at Charlie Lone's mental te o, Dark Raper, Chestow,

567
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:53.000
all the big bands. But I didn't like the environment

568
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:56.400
because it was too much evolving drugs and then I

569
00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:01.119
don't talk about whe It was like heavy, heavy, and

570
00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:05.480
it was not that mellow, and my ex boyfriend was

571
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:08.279
very deep into it. So when we broke up, I

572
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:10.759
didn't want to have to do anything with a scene again.

573
00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:13.119
So there was a friend of mine she worked at

574
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:17.640
Dynamo Club. She said, do you want to work at

575
00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:19.880
the bar because we need pip. I said, I don't

576
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:23.039
know the music, but yeah, I'm open to it. And

577
00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:25.759
within a couple of weeks I was backstage manager of

578
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:29.319
the bands Nice and then Moonspell came in and they

579
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:33.319
needed somebody responsible to do the merchandise. And they said

580
00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:35.799
that you can get fifty euro ods because it's so

581
00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:39.519
small you won't be able to sell anything, and I

582
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:42.839
would get fifteen percent of what I sold, And I

583
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:44.680
walked home with one hundred and fifty year o int

584
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:46.279
pockets and I was like, oh, I like this. I'm

585
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:50.200
good at this. So then I started working big festivals.

586
00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:53.519
I did a couple of big tours. Actually I did

587
00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:57.480
a Circle to Circle with Zach Stevens, who was here

588
00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:02.200
yesterday heading actually from us a fight here at he

589
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:04.720
was the keyboard player, so we know each other and

590
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:10.839
Sturing and my brothers. And then from there I started

591
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:14.440
listening more. I was first more in having metal, trash

592
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:19.319
and death metal. Then somebody took me to this festival

593
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:23.279
in Belgium. Actually it was because the old guitar player

594
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:28.400
from Leed's ice, Torstan, I got to know him from

595
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:32.799
Afro City and they invited me to come there to

596
00:33:33.079 --> 00:33:37.400
get to know no, no, no no. It was MFVF Okay,

597
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:41.000
so that was my first introduction and I had a

598
00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:47.039
bad management of helped me. I forgot the name, that's

599
00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:50.480
okays Trail of Tears, and there was one of the

600
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:53.480
friends a Trail of Tears. He gave me the first

601
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:54.799
city of Nightwish.

602
00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:55.559
Wow.

603
00:33:56.200 --> 00:33:58.119
And when I lost my children, I was in the

604
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:01.240
hospital giving birth for eighteen hours and I two cities

605
00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:05.319
with me Trail of Tears and Nightwish. So I love

606
00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:08.559
my children during two nice to mermtes and it got

607
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:12.119
to two almos from Nightwish and I was invited to

608
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:15.639
come to the Night Wish weeks in Kitty and there

609
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:18.280
are all vocalists from all over the world's male female

610
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:20.960
musicians coming there to pay tribute to Night Twish. But

611
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:26.079
it's all professionals. It's not just the fandom. I've been

612
00:34:26.119 --> 00:34:29.400
in the Two Night Wishes Loved documentary and this is

613
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:33.079
how I got I roll into female fronteds. But I

614
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:37.199
also worked for them. I work for Metal Babes in Belgium.

615
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:39.679
I do hair makeup for artists.

616
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:40.280
I do the.

617
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:44.639
It depends on how the book make because now in

618
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:47.440
September it's Metal Babes again. I do the presentation of

619
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:50.159
all the bands on stage, and I will do the merchandise,

620
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:54.159
so sometimes I even have triple shifts if I have

621
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:55.360
to perform myself as well.

622
00:34:56.360 --> 00:34:58.760
So you're like one of the hardest working people in

623
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:04.559
music kind of yeah, I'll say it, yeah.

624
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:07.360
But I love it. I love to be able to

625
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:09.840
bring my music to people, but also help others bringing

626
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:11.280
their their music to.

627
00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:13.920
People, because you're a true artist and the true have

628
00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:17.679
true passion for the music. So now tell me about

629
00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:21.039
your newest music or not me, but tell the listeners

630
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:25.880
about your newest music and why give them a paint

631
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:28.320
them a visual that makes them want to listen to it.

632
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:31.880
Well, on the first album, I had guest artists I

633
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:35.519
work with, like Rosta Boss is on there my sot

634
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:38.159
of Mysteria. They keep up Player from Bruce Dickinson, a

635
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:42.119
lot of theme fronts like Laura from Burning Rich's an

636
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:50.559
A Kiata. I love to do collaborations. And now the

637
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:53.559
second album recording, now the lost parts of the drums

638
00:35:56.159 --> 00:35:58.599
and other dear friends in metal I don't know, do

639
00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:02.760
you know symphony X Yes, Michae Lapond is doing a

640
00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:07.880
big bass solo in between a metal song, so it

641
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:14.480
has like this break, It has this prog vibes in

642
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:21.280
the metal song that is more like heavy metal duets.

643
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:24.880
So I like to do that kind of stuff. And

644
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:27.440
this is on the new album. Of course, we're not

645
00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:31.719
gonna skip on heavy subjects. This album will go through

646
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:36.920
problems like dementia that you see somebody with dementia living

647
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:39.159
in a fog. This is one of the songs. But

648
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:44.480
we also have we celebrate your life because I've been

649
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:47.480
to so many funerals the last couple of years, and

650
00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:49.079
also my own brother killed himself.

651
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:50.800
Oh I'm so sorry to hear that.

652
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:54.519
And for me it's important to remember the person and

653
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:55.519
not only the grief.

654
00:36:55.639 --> 00:36:59.000
So one of the we celebrate your life. First you burn,

655
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:03.360
read your life to the earth. You return, We honor

656
00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:07.119
your name until we meet again. A traveling soul you

657
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:10.320
be came. This is one of the new.

658
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:14.400
Songs and it goes with every religion because everything every

659
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:17.239
religion believes in a soul, and a traveling soul can

660
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:19.199
be embraced by anybody.

661
00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:20.079
Absolutely.

662
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:22.119
So this is what I want to make. This is

663
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:25.920
my music is acceptable for everyone. Of course there's a

664
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:28.119
little erotic site always.

665
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:30.679
Oh see, that's where the four play part came.

666
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:34.280
Yes, one of the songs in burning Rubber, and you

667
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:37.719
hear bike music like the burning rubber on the road,

668
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:40.280
but in the end you are in a hotel room

669
00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:45.119
burning the rubber. Oh so I always have to put

670
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:47.760
in a little bit of sex, okay, because that is

671
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:49.000
also me I was.

672
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:51.599
Going to say. So that's the real life experience.

673
00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:56.000
Yeah, you have to write about what you know.

674
00:37:56.039 --> 00:37:59.679
Right exactly. Tell everybody how they can reach out to you.

675
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:02.719
Can you on socials? Check out your music, check out

676
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:05.360
everything you do, check out and buy your merch.

677
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:09.519
Yes, we have our website, including the web store. It's

678
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:15.000
having Queen dot com. It's one words. We are on Instagram,

679
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:20.920
it's having Queen official on YouTube otway, it's having queen bands.

680
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:24.760
We also are on TikTok me as an artist and model,

681
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:28.519
you can find on a la vero like la French

682
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:32.760
for female vero short for very nique. It's not a difficult,

683
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:36.000
so it's always love Viro Official. You can find me

684
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:43.280
anywhere on every social Yeah, and I hope to play

685
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:46.840
here one day with my own bands out there.

686
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:49.800
Yeah, they need to have you here at Barking playing.

687
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:51.679
I'm just putting it out there.

688
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:55.440
I've been here doing everything except technique, so now it's

689
00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:58.000
my time to be on a stage singing. I'm not

690
00:38:58.119 --> 00:38:58.920
only dancing.

691
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:02.840
Absolutely way, I agree, And I want to see you

692
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:06.400
here and I want to see aur listeners check you out.

693
00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:08.440
And they don't buy your merch, they can't listen to

694
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:08.880
my show.

695
00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:11.360
Ha, well that would be lovely. It's a click and

696
00:39:11.480 --> 00:39:14.840
order system that we use from print FLL, so I

697
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:16.559
don't have to send it out. Only if you want

698
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:21.360
to buy the album, is I have to physically send it. Yeah,

699
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:24.920
Calta and we have really cool stuff. And as I

700
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:28.039
am a model, I use my model pictures on the

701
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:33.400
merchandise itself as well. Yeah, as you should, as I should.

702
00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:39.239
Let's still dress, still dress until.

703
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:41.480
You sing that song.

704
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:46.440
No, because otherwise we cannot put anything up that's true.

705
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:49.079
But I write nipple covers, so I'm covered.

706
00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:52.360
Well, there you go. That's all that mean. Just like

707
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:57.719
Wendy O. Williams of the Plasmatics, the original queen of punk,

708
00:39:57.719 --> 00:39:59.960
and you're the heaven Queen and you're my have Ben queen.

709
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:00.840
Oh, thank you.

710
00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:05.960
And you're amazing artists, but more importantly amazing human being.

711
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:08.000
So thank you for that, and thank you for being

712
00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:09.280
on the Adventures of pipe Man.

713
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:13.119
Well, thank you so much for the honor of this interview.

714
00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:14.800
The honor is all mine.

715
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:17.800
So let's stop this interview and finally get drunk.

716
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:22.559
You get drunk and I'll watch you.

717
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:24.599
You would love that. Huh. No, let's go.

718
00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:25.239
I don't mind.

719
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:28.719
So we're gonna enjoy the last three days where you

720
00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:30.599
have left its been. Do you want to see most

721
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:33.679
I'm taking off the interview right now.

722
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:38.719
Yeah, so uh, probably trip the con.

723
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:40.000
Okay.

724
00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:44.280
Because I'm an old school hell Hammer fan, I'm.

725
00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:47.239
Really looking forward to see Sabaton again because I was

726
00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:49.840
here at the twenty first three and now it's five

727
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:53.320
years later. They're my guys. I worked with thems of me.

728
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:56.559
To see them, it would be an honor and yeah,

729
00:40:56.639 --> 00:41:00.079
yesterday's sabotage. I always go to the bands that I

730
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:03.320
worked with because I love to see my people, because

731
00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:05.920
you have emotional connection with them.

732
00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:09.239
Absolutely and same with me. I like to go see

733
00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:12.679
the bands that I interview to show support too. That

734
00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:15.039
is it. We all got to support each other and

735
00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:17.719
that is what medals about, and that is what Vukin

736
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:18.280
is about.

737
00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:20.920
Thank you, my friends, see you later, see you and enjoy.

738
00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:28.559
Thank you for listening to the adventures of Tapement. I'm

739
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:31.679
w for CUI Radio.