March 3, 2026

Give your dog a bone!

Give your dog a bone!

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Hi, you have done to censure.

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Fore wow for you your.

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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures of

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pipe Man on the Positively pipe Man segment of this

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show on W four CY Radio, W four cy dot

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com with our resident expert on pet health and human

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health too, you know, because in some ways it's one

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and the same. So let's give a welcome to pet

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health Guru. How are you?

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I'm doing fine? How are you doing today?

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I'm doing great? And you know, I love our subject

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today because it's give your dog a bone and humans.

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I have a bone to pick with, but I'm gladly

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giving my dogs a bone.

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Now.

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First I have a question off the bat and then

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we're going to talk about the benefits of raw bones.

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But I also.

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Remember being younger and yes, being taught raw bones are

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great for pets, but then that raw hide were not.

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So can you tell us your viewpoints on that.

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Well, the in veterinary medicine they basically don't like you

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feeding anything raw. So therefore we had to come up

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with an alternative because they put the scare tactics in there.

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You know, the bones will splinter if they you know,

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when the dogs chewed them. They're gonna rip up the

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and test it and you get a dead dog. So

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obviously the industry was also looking for a way to

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counter this, which is where raw hide came from. Now,

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first off, it's not raw, which is interesting in itself

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because it is a process product. And basically what I

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started into the market, it was a major portion of

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the market for something for them to chew on that's

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so called was safe, and basically it was basically rawhide

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was nothing more than collagen, the same ingredient that it's

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made from, which is the inside of a cow hide,

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what they call the split. The outside, of course goes

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for leather, clothing, all of that sort of stuff. The

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collagen part of it went to two industries. One was

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making these nice raw high bones and all kinds of

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fancy shapes that were supposedly a safe alternative that that

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wasn't used for rawhide was actually going to the plant

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next store that made gelatin, and so that was being

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used obviously in the food industry. Biggest use of gelatin

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back when I started in the business, already after I

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started in the business, but in the eighties and nineties,

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was they used it as a solidifier in TV dinner

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the hole together. So when it ended up, we actually

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ended up in this competitive place who's going to get

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the collagen to make bones or TV dinners. It was

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really really interesting back then.

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That explains a lot, by the way, because my mother

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gave me TV dinners all the time. Okay, I explained

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some of my problems.

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Okay, yes, well, and of course the raw hide process

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obviously you have to you have to clean the collagen,

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solidify it, make it into a shape, and then dry

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it out. Well, some of the chemicals that were used

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had questionable attributes, as did most processes, all processes with

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even today. However, the ABMA American Veterinary Association and other

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animal veterinary advocates said, oh that's dangerous, and somehow some

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of these chemicals got put cannot.

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Use in the United States.

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So what happened is they started shipping all the hides

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overseas where they didn't have any laws as to what

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could be used ven them, and unfortunately it turned it

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came down to a lot of toxic more toxic chemicals

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were being used. A little bit you know, obviously that

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got thrown up by the you know, the powers to

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be that this is a bad thing.

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It's going to poison your dog.

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And then the other part of that was they're going

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to swallow it and they're going to choke to death.

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And because it's going to swell up. When it got

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boys and it was America got so big too, we

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couldn't you know, chipping hides from the United States and

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frozen containers over there and then have processes.

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Shipped back was expensive.

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So then they decided to start using water buffalo hides

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and again process who knows how, and so that just

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got pushed and pushed and pushed to the point where,

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you know, it was terrible. I remember working with one

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of the processes of it in the United States that

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was making this stuff, and we used to sell, you know,

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especially for kennels or people who had a number of dogs,

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these bulk packs of raw hide bones and they were

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basically reduced price because they had discolorations and you know,

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maybe holes or things like that and where the hide was.

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And a friend of mine who was an island associated

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mind actually trying to figure out how to make these

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into a better product. One night, I guess a couple

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too many bourbons or something decided to put the raw

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high bones into a pan of bullion, beef bullion, which

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would color the bone. And that was where that's how

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the basted bones started. And then you basically took a

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second rate product, a second grade product, and took it

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into a premium price. Boy, I mean, it was a

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fascinating way it has happened. But you know, uh, that's

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that's entrepreneurial ship. You know, that's how we can actually

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take waste material and create a product that is really

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really super as far as the marketplace is concerned. Now

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on the other side, the raw bone stuff.

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Let's pause on the raw bone because I want to

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say one thing that it made me think of because

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I thought at the end of the game when you

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were talking about raw hides, not raw, I was gonna

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say then, and now you even confirmed it even more. Oh,

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then that's why it's the color it is because it

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looks like it's cooked. That's exactly what I like, not raw.

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Yeah.

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Well, of course today it's all a spray on, you know,

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and with a lot of different chemicals and flavors and

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palatins and that sort of thing. But it's still got

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the same bad name here in the United States. And

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you know, but was it a beneficial product.

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Yes. Part of the other.

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Issue with it is with with swallow the whole things.

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During the same period, because of the competition with the

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gelatine part of it, the price of it expanded greatly

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because now we got a competitive user of that that

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waste product. And what a bone that might have been

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an eight in ten inch bone might have been three

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dollars back then, and then it went to like eight

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or nine dollars. Okay, So part of the problem with

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swallowing it is people were going to spend eight or

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nine dollars on a bigger bone. They bought a smaller

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bone and when he gave it to that roddy and

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then we took the meat out of the pet.

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Food which they needed.

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So this raw hide was a piece of meat, so

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they were taken Instead of chewing on the bone, they

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would just swallow because they were meat deprived. I need

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that's a raw hide bone to them was a steak

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and they would just swallow it hole. And of course

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veterinarians also on that part that during that time period

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figured out if they did the next ray and they

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found they saw a raw hide bone in the gut,

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we have to operate. It was a cheap, easy way

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of making money, whereas if they actually did nothing, that

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raw high bone was completely digested in a.

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Day two Wow. Wow. You know.

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But when that, you know, because it was a big,

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big part of it, you know, you could see it

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in the next ray, you know, oh my, oh my god.

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It's going to be a blockage. And it never was.

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But like I said, it's funny.

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I know, same animals that we would do that they

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were doing surgery on and I used to track it

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back with my youth. But they would also find that

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those dogs that did that swallowing were what we would

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consider like a garbage gut dog. They would eat anything dry, walls, sticks, stones.

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We had one case said when they did it, the

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dog swallowed a TV remote.

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Wow. You know, that was interesting.

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You know, but that's kind of you know, panty host

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you know, socks underwear because there because the animal was

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then meat deprived with the artificial flavored foods, that anything

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that smells like animal, which of course anything that's against

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our body is going to pick up our body, odors,

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our body, you know, our sweat, our oils.

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Hey, that was fair game.

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And I actually had a customer committed to sword and

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to describe it, that the dog was like acting funny

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after going out for their walk, and he pooped, and

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she says, I picked up.

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The tail and I look, and there's little things sticking out.

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She says, I got gloves on and I grabbed onto

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it and slowly started pulling it out and pulling it

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out and pulling it out.

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It was a complete pair of pantyhose.

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Oh that was swallowed.

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Now if you imagine just spreading that up on a table,

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that's eight feet.

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Of nylon in that gut. Wow.

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I mean the wild tails that we had used to

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have and we still do. I mean with all the

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poison than that. But you know what they did is

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they tried to eliminate all you know, with any of

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the bones. They're trying to eliminate any chance of anything

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possibly happenings. And now here was the contrary thing too,

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is when you went to the veterinarian nieces no no, no, no, no,

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on the raw high bones. But we have vet shoes

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over here that we've taken the raw hide chips and

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treated them with chemicals, disinfectants for your dog to eat. Hmm. Yeah,

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you know, I guess if it's sold by a veterinarian.

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That doesn't matter that they put poison on it or not,

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because now they got a new customer for poisoning.

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Yeah. Well, and you know what I think of dogs

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in the wild and when they eat bones in the

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wild and not die.

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Yeah, absolutely, And it's you know, it's funny too because

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of the size of the bone and the type of bone.

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That's sort of thing.

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On small animals, you know, when they get a kill

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of a rabbit or squirrel something of that nature. A bird,

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it's just crunch, crunch, crunch, they eat the whole thing.

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Now on the big animals, they will basically chew on

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the bones because the bones are much harder. They'll chew

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on the bones to get the marrow out and for

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all the cartilage, and then they literally do bury their

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bones and they'll go back to six months later, a

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year later and dig them back up when food is scarce.

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And of course during that process, bacteria, funguses, bowls, bugs.

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Have broken down that bone.

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Now that there's soft enough that they could actually chew

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it up and actually get nutrition out of it. Basically,

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when you stop and thinking about it, that's rotting. That's rotten.

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Already rotted food yeah, and they're perfectly fine with it.

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We're worried about and we're worried about the deadly salmonilla

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bugs that are probably in creeping around.

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It's terrible, I know.

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So what kind of raw bones would you recommend to

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peep ball? Can they get those raw bones through you?

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And if so, tell them how they would do that

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and how they would of course, you know, reach out

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to you for more information, more questions. Check out your

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podcast all that stuff exactly.

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My palot pet actually by a complete produces a complete

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line of bones.

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We look at the size of the animal, the even

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the age of the animal.

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One of the warnings that we all always get is,

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you know, well they might be able to break a

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means it's already calcium deficient. Ye whole calcium something, you know,

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the whole uh matrix of calcium.

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slaughter pork at a very young age. Chicken even the

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same way. Those bones are gonna be very very soft

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those you know, beef we we slaughter at two years

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why we don't use them a lot. It's those are

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so it's actually meat that we could actually process in

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another form to get used.

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The bones and that's bone broth.

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medicine that our great grandmothers use the kid to sure

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every disease known the mankind.

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on my show, my podcast, which is live every Thursday

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as my Paleo pet dot com. When you want to

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home for you, I mean, and at the store you

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an upset stomach, we have purbles and botanicals that will

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make sure to check out the Pet Health Guru and

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check out the podcast, but also check out my paleopet

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dot com. Uh, stay tuned. We're going to be doing

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