Sept. 6, 2024

It’s Suicide Prevention Month & We Will Explore Overcoming Suicidal Ideation with Dr. Karla Hylton

It's Season 18, Episode 32 of The Adventures of Pipeman. First, Pipeman is back from The Adventures of Rocklahoma.  Tune in to hear what shenanigans happened in the campground, reviews of some of the best band performances, and some talk of the many...

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It's Season 18, Episode 32 of The Adventures of Pipeman. First, Pipeman is back from The Adventures of Rocklahoma. Tune in to hear what shenanigans happened in the campground, reviews of some of the best band performances, and some talk of the many interviews Pipeman had on-site. And pay attention for some clues on how to win Tickets to Aftershock Festival.

Then we welcome Multiple Award-Winning Author, Educator, Life Coach, Scientist, Keynote Speaker, Journalist, and Mental Health Advocate Dr. Karla Hylton as our special guest. We will delve into the deeply personal and transformative theme of overcoming suicidal ideation, as explored in her book, The Unvarnished Truth: Purpose in the Pain, especially as September is suicide prevention month. Pipeman has personal experiences with this, and we are seeing more and more feelings like this with all that is happening in the world. This is a very special subject for Pipeman. We will start September off with a message of hope for all of you who are suffering so you know you are not alone, and Dr. Karla Hylton is here to help.

Drawing from Dr. Hylton’s own experiences, she aims to shed light on the silent struggles many face and offer hope through her story. Dr. Hylton will also discuss the practical exercises found in her companion workbook, Vanquishing Monsters, which are designed to empower individuals to reclaim their lives from the grips of despair. Karla’s goal is to inspire listeners and highlight how these books serve as powerful tools for healing and resilience.

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Hi, you unto Yes, that's sure you see bring you

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you Wake Up America. It's time for the adventures.

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So Fight Man, I'll go before suppli I com Liz

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ponkas It's number one internet radio station.

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Here's your host, The Fight Man.

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Yoh, I'm back from Rock Oklahoma. I can't say I'm

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in good shape, though I am recuperating and I'm a

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hurting pop right now. But there's lots for us to

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talk about about Rockklahoma. There's also lots for us to

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talk about in the second half of the show, where

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we're going to have a special guest. Her name is

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doctor Carla Hilton, and she is a very well educated educator,

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but more importantly, we're going to talk today. You know

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you see behind me. September is suicide prevention month. Well

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that's what we're going to talk about today. We're going

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to talk about suicide prevention. And there's a lot of

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things we're going to discuss with doctor Hilton. But first

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let's bring on the pipe nuts. There they are rebel Medler,

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the rebel Meddler with the green screen with no virtual

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background like rebel. Okay, I keep telling you, nobody just

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has a green screen. Okay, nobody wants to look at

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some wrinkled green thing behind you. All right, Well you know.

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It's it's progress. It's progress. You didn't like the blue screens,

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so I got agree one.

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That doesn't mean I like the green any better. Now

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look at now, look at Look at Wand's virtual background.

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He's not an a virtual background.

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It's almost if it's actually there.

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Oh oh oh, he actually in our studio with real

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stuff going on, instead of something that looks like a

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wrinkled chet.

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It's not a wrinkle cheat. It is a green screen.

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Well I know it is. I'm saying what it looks like.

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And you're missing a little corner there. I can see

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what you're trying to hide from us, so maybe move

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your green over a little bit. But yes, as I

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was saying, I just got back from Rockklahoma, I'm recuperating.

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I don't know if you could hear. But first of all,

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I had totally lost my voice because I did like

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eighteen interviews and some gigs and screaming and all that

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good stuff. So no, I don't do crowdsurfing. Don't trust

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people that much. But friend of mine did break her

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ankle crowdsurfing at Rockahoma ten topping. There's a reason. Oh

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ten topping, Well that may be not ten topping. Well yeah,

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maybe ten topping too, Okay, but what I am going

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to say, but I'm starrying to get my voice back now.

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But I also have festival flu. Can either one of

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you describe to me what festival flu is?

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Yes, it's it's just the crid that you get from

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being around all these key.

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And it's not a pine poles. Was it raining? That

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has nothing to do with it, But yes, the first day,

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not the pre party, but the first day it was

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raining and we got evacuated.

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Did they spread anything on the ground to absorb the

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water from the rain.

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That's not what it is. Festival flew is at every festival,

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there's a ton of dust that you're breathing in the

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air and when you're there all day, every day, breathe

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in especially doing air views, because I'm breathing in talking

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at the end of it, it's all inside your head

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and you can't breathe. And I don't mean in your

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head mentally, I mean physically and literally literally you can

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sometimes some festivals, like you could cough up like rocks,

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like low pebbles. It's it's really a trip. But yeah,

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so my nose is.

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Totally are you doing up pebbles?

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It's what you breathe. There's seventy five thousand people there

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running and walking and washing and everything else through dust.

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Here's the question, Yes, what's worse coughing up pebbles or

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passing starists?

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I would say passing definitely is okay. I don't want

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to do that anymore. I do have one sitting there

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that could pass at any time. I don't want that

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to happen. But let me tell you something how it's

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amazing because some people might look at this show, like

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we talked about in the beginning of the show, the

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first half, we're going to do a recap on Rocklaholma

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on the Pipe Man Radio Tour. In the second half,

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I said, we have a special, very special guest, doctor

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Carla Hilton, which if she can hear me, she's backstage

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right now, and if she wants us to bring her

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on ahead time and talk about Shenanigans of a music festival,

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she can nod her head yes. If she just wants

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to stay in the background and watch that she I know,

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I know, I know, right, So, but basically there is

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you know, we talked about it's suicide Prevention month, and

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we're going to be talking about, uh, suicide prevention and

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suicide ideation. And the thing is some people will say, well,

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how you put those two subjects together. Well, first of all,

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in the music industry, suicidal ideation and suicide itself is rampant. Okay,

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last couple of years ago we lost two major people.

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We lost uh, we've lost many, many people that you

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think they're living the dream life. Like you look at

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them and they're like, man, they are the luckiest person

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on earth, but then they're not. Okay, and we don't.

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Know goes on. You know, there's a lot.

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Look you don't know what's going on in somebody's head either,

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or what they've been through. Most people don't show all

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that stuff. They just live with it. And that's why

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they get to the point they do because they're not

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talking to anybody except the voice in their head. And

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as things get darker, we need voices outside of our head.

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That's my opinion, Okay. And so yeah, there was one

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band that I interviewed this weekend that literally the person

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that formed the band was suicidal before forming the band,

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and forming the band changed his life. Music changes people's

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life and some of the best therapy and multiple of

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the artists that were at this festival this weekend have

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had some kind of issues with mental health, suicidal ideation,

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and it looks like to dream life, but it could

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be the rough life too that you know, you don't

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know what somebody else is going through. Okay. And so

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if you guys listen to my interviews that will be

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coming out in a couple of days from Oklahoma, you'll

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hear a lot of this too, and you'll hear about

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that one band, Rebel. Why don't you tell everybody all

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the bands that I interviewed at Oklahoma.

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I wasn't there. I don't know all the bands that

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you interviewed at w Oklahoma.

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Well you should have. You should have done your research.

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That's your job is to do your research. So good.

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But seriously, though, yeah, so I here's who we interviewed,

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just so you know. Okay, we had the official pre party,

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didn't even have media credentials yet. I had to like

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sneak in to do the interview. Okay, but I told

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old people I snuck in. I'd never sneak in without

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telling people. Once you're in, you're in. No, But seriously,

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I interviewed that they have this one stage. It's really cool,

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and they on the pre port night it was only

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that stage and basically it's like eighties glam hair metal

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band type stuff. So like that night Faster Pussycat played.

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Uh you know, oh yeah, yeah, I told some I

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did not, but I told something. I did hang out

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with them in the trailer and they were drinking, So

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I think that's better than the interview just saying no,

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we weren't. They actually came into the trailer I was

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in with another band to ask for some alcohol, and

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the other band was a young newer band that they

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were so they felt so cool that faster pussy Cat

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asked them for some alcohol. You know. But you know

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that backstage shenanigans some of it's there. It's not you know,

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it's not what people think it is either sometimes, but uh,

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there are some there were some shenanigans. There's some things

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we're gonna have to talk about that, the shenanigans at

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the festival and in the campground. But first of all, okay,

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so we interviewed Scarlet Rocks on the pre party night.

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So there was a band Eyebolt that played that night.

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We interviewed them too. But the next day, Okay, and

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then you're you're gonna be real upset, rebel, You're gonna

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be real upset. Can you guess who was the headliner

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of that night? Okay? So there's two reasons you're gonna

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be upset. One is that you missed it. The second

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is is that while I talk about the rest of interviews,

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you're gonna do your job and you're gonna look up

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who the headliner was that night. So let's see you

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can guess. Sure, no Slayer, No, not even close with

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the Slayer, closer with the Motley Crew?

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Is it an eighties band.

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Yeah. No, it's a lead singer of an eighties band,

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that's Neil. No, you're not gonna get right because you

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didn't do your research. Let's let's see if Jan takes

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a guest, if he gets even closer than you, because

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I bet he's researching it while we're talking.

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In the video.

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No, no, he doesn't do these interviews.

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I don't know. Slipknot.

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No, that was the headliner at a whole festival. They're

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not playing them free Party.

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Was there a specific day that they played on pre.

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Party night Thursday night? No, but you're getting close.

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Tom Keefer, that's it.

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You did it? Ding ding ding. Do you know what

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band Tom Keefer is from? Rebel? Because if you don't,

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you are ashamed to all people that say they like

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eighties medal Cinderella, very good, ding ding ding she won.

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Oh my god, I'm so shocked. So that was the

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first night, okay, And then the second day I didn't

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get to see a lot of sets I wanted to

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see because I was too busy in media, which happens.

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That happens quite often. But I did catch some really

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good shows. But Friday, first day, official day at the festival,

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like I said, I interviewed Eyeball. I also interviewed Dime

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Store Riot and then we got there there were there

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was another band that I interviewed, but then we got

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evacuated due to weather, and so I was gonna miss

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my last interview, but she stuck around and we connected

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after we got back in the festival hours later and

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did the interview. It was one of the best. It

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was one of the best interviews we had. That was

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Eva under Fire. Then Saturday we interviewed Austin Mead, Surge,

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Bad Wolves, Color of Chaos, Royal Lynn. Sunday we interviewed

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ten Cent Revenge, Giovanni and the Hired Guns nothing more

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Raven's banquet than Dead who is the son of Clown

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and Tory from Slipknot and they are that bent and

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a few other people and that band's badass Any gibbons

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in and Oxymorons now in Oxymorons spelled it to ours Okay.

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During the interview, one of them was wearing a shirt

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their own band shirt that I was like, that's really cool,

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Like I really dug it, and I was wearing a

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Rockklahoma shirt. So he came up with the idea in

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the interview because he could always get another one of

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his own band shirts, but they couldn't get the Rockklahoma

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shirt from two years ago that I had. He said

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during the interview, Okay, let's trade shirts. So we both

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stood up there in media during the interview and took

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off our shirts exchanged and that's the shirt we wore

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for the rest of the day. And then I was

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hanging out with them later at sets. You know, it

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was so funny because he was wearing my shirt, I

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was wearing his shirt. So there it is.

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Did you get to keep his shirt?

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Yeah, and he kept mine. It was a trade forever.

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It was a trade forever. So I'll never be able

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to recapture that Rockklahoma shirt. But I have a cool

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shirt too, So who's never know.

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You might meet up again at another in at another

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festival and you know switch out.

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That absolutely true. So everybody has to check out the interviews.

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They'll be on my podcast, on Iheartpandora, Spotify, Amazon Music, Audible,

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and like over one hundred others. So just check it out.

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All the interviews from Roklahoma will be there and on Spotify.

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There will even be a playlist for all eighteen interviews. Okay,

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so do you want to talk about the other shenanigans

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you do? What would you like to know? How about

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you guys, interview me about Rockklahoma. Let's do that.

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Let's do that. Let's interview you with the Rockahoma one.

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You want to go first?

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Sure, how many tents did you visit?

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So let me think one, be honest, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

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seven one night in total. That was just the first night.

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So that's not counting the second, the third, or the

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fourth night.

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No, I lost count at that point. Oh, next question.

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What for our audience to know? For the listeners to know?

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What does? What are you talking about when we talk

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about those tents?

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We mean, while we're talking about when we talk there.

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Ten, what happens? What happens in the tent? Stays in

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the tent?

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Exactly?

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No, no, No, it's a campground, Rock Oklahoma. You you've

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told us before that Ockklahoma is the best camping experience.

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So what happens?

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What?

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I think?

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What do you mean when you talk about the tents?

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So?

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Okay, first of all, my old neighbor they have this

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school bus and they're friends of mine now, but I

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met them at Rockklahomo A few years ago. Okay, so

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this is the one festival I do choose to camp

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at because the campgrounds are just insane, okay, and there

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isn't a place to get a room for like an

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hour anyway. So basically, let me tell you what goes

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on every night, so you go, you know, or here's

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my day. All day long, from like morning till somewhere

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between five and seven, I'm doing the interviews. I'm in

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the press area. After that, I go out and venture

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into the festival and go watch some music. And at

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this festival, I go and I stand on stage to

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watch the bands, and I just want to tell people,

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by the way, you think it's cool to stand side stage,

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it is once, but the sound is terrible. The only

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one thing you hear from there is the drums because

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everything else is facing out. But you're hanging out with

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your friends and you know, like stuff like that, so

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it's kind of cool. So then the headliner plays. The

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headliner is done. Now you have to go out into

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the campground and you take a rite, and within a

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couple blocks is the strip club campsite. Now this isn't

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like your normal strip club thing. Okay, they have lead

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these contests and karaoke contests on the stage and everybody

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congregates there. I can tell you there were more guys

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up on the stage than women. And the guys up

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on the stage were not let's say, stripper types. Okay,

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we'll just say that.

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Okay, so for everyone, that's all I'm going to say.

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That's right. And so like all the camp almost all

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the camp sites. In the campgrounds, they have this thing. Okay,

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our guests might want to close your ears, but where

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they give away shots for boobs. If you male or female,

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you show your boobs, you get a shot for free.

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They love giving free alcohol in that campground. And so

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there's that. And then there's beads. Okay, you're you're from Louisiana.

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Why are people so obsessed with Marty Grass beads? Okay?

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Like I don't get it, But listen, you can know

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a lot about a person at this festival by how

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many beads they have around their neck. And there's bracelets. Two,

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there's bracelets too. Every like these type of bracelets. It's

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every campground. They handle it out to you like I

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had the whole armful of them. Okay, And we're I'm

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walking around with other bands, and I'm introducing them to

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the campgrounds because it's like during the interview, have you

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gone out to the campground? No? Oh man, well you

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gotta go out, so well hang out watch the last band,

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and we'll go out into the campground. And it's a

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very shocking experience even for them. Okay. So basically, uh,

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there's a lot of shenanigans and people watching go on.

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Since you know, I rarely ever drink, I'm just people

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watching the insanity because people are getting super duper drunk,

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like beyond drunk, okay, and I'm just watching laughing at

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these people. I will tell you there was the first night,

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something having to do with golf cart races and doughnuts

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and people flying off the golf arts in fishtails. That's

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That's all I'm gonna say about that, except the fact

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that I held on tight and didn't go off. It's

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like a flatbed golf cart. So there was that. And

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then so my old neighbors what they did is they

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built this and they have this school bus and they

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built a deck on top of it and they're totally cool.

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Every morning they invite me over for breakfast, you know,

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and they'll take good care of me. But at night

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the shenanigans start because this big deck, Like first of all,

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you could see the headliner band from their deck and

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here at clear as day, so you don't even have

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to go on the venue. But there's a big sign

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on the other side with the name of the bus

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and what you do to get some beads. So the

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name of the bus, okay, and our guests might want

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to keep your ears closed for this one. Are bus

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boobs and buttholes. That's the name of the bus. I

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have the wristband. I have the wristband to prove it.

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And everybody stands on top of the bus well. All

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the festival campers are walking around, they pass by and

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they come up and they either show their boobs order

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butthole to get beads. So again, what's the fascination with beads.

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I'm not ever even showing my hand for a bead, okay,

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Like I don't get it.

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Well, there is.

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A kink for a fascination and involves beads and buttholes,

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but I think that's a different story.

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Yeah, that's a totally different story because there's nothing sexual.

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It's just show your boobs and buttole and walk away.

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That's it.

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I never understood that why do people decide to do that.

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The beads might cost Okay, once upon a time they

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cost four cents, they might cost atholit these days. I

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don't know what inflation. But really that's what you're worth.

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Your your self worth is for that one moment in

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time to expose yourself in public, which is illegal, by

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the way, in almost everywhere Amsterdam.

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But I was sorry, but but wait, if it's a

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private venue with a private event, I don't know if

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that counts. And let's just say that the police officers

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are on the campground and I've even seen them come

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up on top of the bus to watch too. Okay,

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there for their enjoyment, pleasure exactly. Okay, let me tell

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you something. It's not all it's cracked up to be,

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just like fantasies, like some things just remain a fantasy,

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because this all sounds like some kind of fantasy. But

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I'm telling you, every single person I saw show their

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privates are people that probably shouldn't show their privates.

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No wait a minute, no, no, no, no.

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I can say that I've seen all types of people,

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from doctors to lawyers, to all type two strippers all

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showing as stuff during morning.

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Gra Yeah, well, alcohol and Mary and Marty Gras is

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the you know, like Sodom and Gomorrah of He's modern world.

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And so one of our listeners said, not typical mail strippers.

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Rebel might like that. One knows you, Rebel and your

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crew that Louisiana is the Sodom and Gomorrah of today.

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High proof of that.

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There's a lot we can say, but we have to

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save that for another time. Okay, So I'm gonna say

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seventy five thousand people were in attendance. Rock Klahoma was

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so killer. I got ten hours sleep in five days.

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I got the festival flu. I lost my voice, but

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it was all worth it. And I actually didn't I

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didn't get to actually sleep sleep till like Monday night.

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So I'm still recovering. I'm still recuperating. But we have

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important things to talk about, because forget those shenanigans and

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that stuff that's not really that important. Maybe next week

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we'll even talk more about it, because I also have

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coming up on the Pipe Man Rated tour. This month

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is a busy month. Next week we have Punk in

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the Park in Orlando, then I have Bourbon Beyond. We're

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giving tickaway and tickets away for I'm not going I'm

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going to riot Fest, and then Louder than Life, and

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then the final No Effects show ever in History, and

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then After Shock, and there is a festival coming up

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down doing ticket giveaways too at that same venue Oklahoma

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was at, but it's called Born and Raised. So I

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think what we need to do. We have our guests

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coming on here in just a minute, and again for

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those of you that weren't here from the very beginning,

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we have a very special guest and it's very appropriate

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since this month is September suicide Prevention month. So we

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have doctor Carla Hilton with us, and we are going

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to delve into the deeply personal and transformative theme of

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overcoming suicidal ideation. And it's explored in her book The

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Unvarnished Truth Purpose in the Pain. I'm so much a

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believer in that. That title is so amazing, Uh, you know,

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So we're gonna talk in depth about that. But before

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we bring her on, we do still have tickets to

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give away for Born and Raised, maybe Bourbon Beyond, although

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I think if any it's just one left. Maybe Louder

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in life. If so, maybe one left, maybe after shock.

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But let's hear what Born and Raised and Bourbon Beyond

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are all about.

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The world's biggest bourbon and music festival.

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Bourbon and Beyond twenty twenty four A Perfect Glenn to Bourbon,

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Colin Airy and Music with Zach Bryan, Dave Matthew's Bad.

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Tyler Shielders, Leil Young.

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Hey, Louis Hill Zone, My Morning Jacket, Max by Footing, Cody.

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Jinks married Morris More.

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September nineteenth, twenty second in Blue Bill Kentucky on sal

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dow At Bourbon At Beyond, Dyke.

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Cough Edust, the red Dirt off your boots and get

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all your rowdy friends together.

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Born and Raised Music Festival is.

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Back for one hell of a weekend September thirteenth through.

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Fifteen, twenty twenty four.

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In Prior, Oklahoma featuring Cody Johnson, You Got.

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Kid, Hank Williams Junior, My rowdy friends are coming over,

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co Wetzel, Sun.

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Midland, em Bang, Dwight Yoakum Good plus the Red Clays, Phrase,

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Shane Smith and the Saints, Paul Coffin, three d Oak Revival,

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the Cadillac three and many more passes in camping on

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sale now at Born and Raised festival dot com starting

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at ten dollars down. I have no the best camping

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and rowdiest party the festival for the out law and

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all of us born and raised.

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Yeeha, that's not my festival. I do to take a giveaways,

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but I don't think I'm going there, but there is

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some of them that I like there. But I do

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want to add too, that Bourbon Beyond commercial that we

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played didn't have the latest edition, which is Sting is

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now headlining that festival. But enough about that stuff. Now

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we go on to the good stuff because we have

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here are very special guests who I am Not only

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am I impressed by her educational background, but I am

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impressed of what she's doing with the world and helping people.

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And you know, we are living in dark times where

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00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:57.119
a lot of people need healing, and this is just

445
00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:01.480
the person to help. And so let's welcome show doctor Carla.

446
00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:02.720
How are you?

447
00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:05.279
I'm good, Thank you so much for having me.

448
00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:10.160
Oh my pleasure. And so maybe you could tell the

449
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:13.400
audience a little bit about your background, about yourself and

450
00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:16.160
what led you to be here with us today talking

451
00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:21.039
about things like suicidal ideation, Okay.

452
00:30:20.920 --> 00:30:25.640
Well, I am an educator. I actually have a doctorate

453
00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:32.799
in biotechnology, and I have been an educator for perhaps

454
00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:38.440
about almost thirty years. However, I've had my own mental

455
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:45.519
health struggles throughout my life from childhood, and I decided

456
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:50.000
to write a memoir because I have been through a

457
00:30:50.039 --> 00:30:57.039
whole lot and I want to help persons to overcome

458
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:02.680
some of these struggles that I have been through. I'm

459
00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:07.920
actually from Jamaica, so my memoir, The Unvarnished Truth, actually

460
00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:13.319
takes the readers through my journey, my life as a

461
00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:17.599
Jamaican living in Jamaica, and the struggles I had to overcome.

462
00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:24.920
Of course, everyone has their own struggles. However, I feel

463
00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:30.279
as if I'm in the unique position of having had

464
00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:37.640
suicidal thoughts and have actually attempted twice to help persons

465
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:41.240
with their own mental health problems because I have been

466
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:45.920
to many psychologists, psychiatristic and many medications, et cetera, et cetera.

467
00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:49.880
But the work was hard and it had to come

468
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:54.519
from within. Yes, basically, that's why I am.

469
00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:58.440
I think we all have our stories too. And you know,

470
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:01.720
I will say something here that I probably have never

471
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:03.960
said on the show ever, and Rebel can testify because

472
00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:06.079
she's been with me for like twelve years on the show.

473
00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:14.359
But when I was a teenager, I experienced suicide attempts

474
00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:18.640
in my family and that I had to deal with

475
00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:24.240
that I was a major part of. And so there's

476
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:27.960
that other side is looking at other people and you

477
00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:32.599
know what they're going through, not to mention that most

478
00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:36.200
people don't really know what any of us is going

479
00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:39.480
through because we don't show them. That's what society teaches us.

480
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:42.720
And so then it feels like we're all alone in

481
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:45.599
the world and we have no support system, you know.

482
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:49.440
And that's self created, of course, but it doesn't matter

483
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:52.119
whether it's self created or not, you know, And it

484
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:54.160
doesn't even matter if it's true or not. It's how

485
00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:58.559
you feel that matters in my opinion, you know. I mean,

486
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:01.519
somebody could say, you know, it's all right, blah blah

487
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:04.039
blah blah blah, but if you don't feel that way,

488
00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:08.519
it's not all right for sure. And so I'm very

489
00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:12.400
thankful for somebody like you that can help others, because

490
00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:18.039
it is those of us who have had first hand

491
00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:23.400
experiences that our best, you know, we have the best

492
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:26.960
tools to help others because how many people that are

493
00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:31.480
in that darkness think that nobody could understand them. So

494
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:36.240
you know, if they know that you do understand, that's

495
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:38.400
a whole different story. And you know, let's talk about

496
00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:41.079
the music before, and that's so true, like how many

497
00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:44.640
people relate to the lyrics of songs and that gets

498
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:46.839
some throw it. There's so many different things that could

499
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:50.079
get you through it. Sometimes we don't know what it is,

500
00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:53.880
you know, and sometimes we do need guidance by by

501
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:59.839
somebody like yourself. So what do you think was them

502
00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:05.559
that made you to go into this realm specifically to

503
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:08.320
help people have suicidal ideation?

504
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:21.320
Okay? I felt that sharing my story was a necessary evil,

505
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:24.559
so to speak. It was necessary for persons to know

506
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:32.840
that people that appear to be successful, they're educated, they

507
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:35.400
write because I used to write for the newspaper, et cetera,

508
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:40.719
can actually have feelings of despair even though things appear

509
00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:45.280
to be going well. Yeah, right on the surface. And

510
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:50.039
I also wrote the book because I'm very committed to

511
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:55.159
raising awareness and to reach out to those who are struggling,

512
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:59.760
because I know that that is very critical to have

513
00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:04.679
the the right type of support during the moments of

514
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:10.199
you know, these dark thoughts moving across your mind, Okay,

515
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:13.599
And that is also why I went on to write

516
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:17.880
the work book which is called Vanquishing Monsters, and that

517
00:35:18.039 --> 00:35:22.239
is to offer practical exercises so that persons can help

518
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:25.840
themselves to work through some of the issues they may

519
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:32.199
be going through. My goal ultimately is to inspire others

520
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:37.039
to hold on, to seek help, and to believe that

521
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:39.280
there are brighter days ahead.

522
00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:40.599
Yeah.

523
00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:45.920
Perhaps what is the name of that workbook again, Vanquishing Monster.

524
00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:51.119
And I got to say that the work book to

525
00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:56.199
me is brilliant because and that is part of the work,

526
00:35:56.280 --> 00:36:00.199
isn't it. It's like sometimes you have to take these

527
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:03.880
kind of actions, write things down. And I know also

528
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:07.039
like there's a big difference when you have stuff in

529
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:10.280
your head compared to write it down and looking at

530
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:13.199
it after you wrote it down. So I think it's

531
00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:18.599
ultra ultra important, and I think it's kind of cathartic

532
00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:22.480
to go through a workbook like that to kind of

533
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:23.719
get everything out of you.

534
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:28.039
Yes, definitely, And I mean a lot of the techniques

535
00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:33.079
perhaps persons already know, perhaps they don't know, but then

536
00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:38.559
just having it all in one space one you know,

537
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:43.480
workbook I went through so many aspects of mental health.

538
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:49.360
It's not just suicidal ideation, but things such as abuse,

539
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:57.719
the people, pleasing nature, spirituality as well as parenthood, divorce, marriage,

540
00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:02.559
So it's not just focused on ideation. It goes through

541
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:07.920
many topics that affect us that can lead to suicidal ideation.

542
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:12.639
Yeah, and you know, the fact is okay. So as

543
00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:19.760
an example, you mentioned divorce. Divorce. They've done surveys and

544
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:26.079
divorce is feared more than death. And I've seen people

545
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:30.519
in my life that were the most positive, mentally strong

546
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:37.559
people get destroyed by divorce and it is tough, and

547
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:43.320
it can lead to situations that are very dark and possible,

548
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:50.119
you know, suicidal thoughts and who knows, you know, especially

549
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:54.119
depending on what you're going through. And that's another example too.

550
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:57.880
It's like, it's amazing when you get divorced, how many

551
00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:01.239
of your neighbors that you saw every every day that

552
00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:04.960
had no clue. And that's the same for mental.

553
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:08.880
Health, very very true, and we really need to remove

554
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:11.960
that stigma. We need to have people speaking up, speaking

555
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:16.159
up about how they feel. I mean, emotional health is

556
00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:19.679
just as important, if not more important, than physical health.

557
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:24.480
So you know, well and emotional health if it's bad

558
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:30.320
can lead to bad physical health easier than anything else exactly.

559
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:33.599
So now in the times we live in, stress is

560
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:36.360
so high. Stress is one of the biggest killers there is,

561
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:39.800
and stress is also a killer on our mental health

562
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:40.239
as well.

563
00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:44.519
Yes, I totally agree. I totally agree. And I had

564
00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:49.840
many stress related ailments as I was going through my depression.

565
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:54.320
I was diagnosed with autoimmune diseases. And I am now

566
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:58.920
free of autoimmune diseases because my emotional state is in

567
00:38:58.960 --> 00:38:59.960
a much better place.

568
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:05.559
Yeah, and it is a proven fact that your emotional

569
00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:11.639
state of mind will cause literal physical ailments. It's also

570
00:39:11.840 --> 00:39:15.639
other and you take the other side. Okay. So there's

571
00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:18.760
this exercise that Tony Robbins would have you do in

572
00:39:18.760 --> 00:39:24.000
a seminar where you position yourself a certain way and

573
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:28.679
you look up you and you put a smile on

574
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:34.440
your face and you think of something really dark from

575
00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:39.360
your life, and because of the positioning of your body

576
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:42.519
and how you're doing it, that you still have that

577
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:45.960
smile on your face even thinking about those dark things.

578
00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:52.840
Yes, yep. So you know, we really need to get

579
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:57.599
spread the word suicidal ideation. It's more common than we believe.

580
00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:02.360
You know, so many persons since I've written the book

581
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:06.679
have told me that they have experienced similar thoughts. They've

582
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:11.320
called me, strangers, called me wanting to hear more about

583
00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:15.840
how I dealt with some of the trauma that I experienced.

584
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:19.679
Well, I want to hear more, which means listeners want

585
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:22.679
to hear more. So let's hear more about your story,

586
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:27.000
because that's what people relate to somebody else's story.

587
00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:30.800
Well, that is true. Well, my story is long and

588
00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:34.719
very traumatic, but I will I will give you a

589
00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:40.920
few themes from the book, so to speak. Because of

590
00:40:41.039 --> 00:40:45.239
suicidal ideation we are speaking about mainly today, I would

591
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:47.679
mention that I've had two suicide attempts.

592
00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:51.320
Ah, thank god you're still here.

593
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:53.559
Thank you so much. Yet that I'm happy to be

594
00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:55.960
here because I think I will make a difference and

595
00:40:56.079 --> 00:41:02.239
help persons. I I grew up, as I said, in

596
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:07.119
a small community in Jamaica. I got married at a

597
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:12.960
very young age of twenty two. During my childhood, I

598
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:17.800
did experience a number of traumatic events, including a home invasion,

599
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:27.000
and so growing up, you know, my ethnicity is Indian

600
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:34.000
East Indian, and I grew up with parents that were

601
00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:38.679
very you know, very strict, so to speak. And you know,

602
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:43.239
my dad wanted all his children to succeed academically and

603
00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:45.360
do well, so it was all about book work, so

604
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:47.119
to speak. So there was a lot of pressure to

605
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:51.920
be perfect, so to speak. And I grew up thinking

606
00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:57.679
I was not adequate enough. And I tried to please

607
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:02.360
my parents, and when I went into marriage, tried to

608
00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:06.559
please my husband. When I had children, tried to please

609
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:12.559
my children. So it was all about people pleasing. And

610
00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:15.880
I suffered from low self esteem. And again many people

611
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:18.960
don't believe that because they'll say, but you are this,

612
00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:25.079
you're that, whatever, How could you think so lowly of yourself?

613
00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:28.119
And I did, no matter what person said to me,

614
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:32.880
I still, you know, did not feel that I was

615
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:36.679
good enough. And so I've always struggled with the thoughts

616
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:39.559
of why am I here? What is the point of

617
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:43.559
being here? You know, because of obviously, when you have

618
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:49.320
such high standards, you will never you know, reach that pinnacle.

619
00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:52.159
You will always think there is something else to achieve,

620
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:55.039
and you're not good enough because none of us are perfect.

621
00:42:55.639 --> 00:43:02.000
Right I ask you question now, say that you're always striving.

622
00:43:03.320 --> 00:43:06.639
People should set goals to always strive to things. But

623
00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:10.679
the problem is they they should never feel not enough

624
00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:14.679
or inadequate. It's good to have goals, it's good to

625
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:19.760
reach for things. But I definitely agree when it's feeling inadequate,

626
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:23.079
they need to look back and see where they came from.

627
00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:25.920
And when you start looking back and see where you

628
00:43:26.039 --> 00:43:29.559
came from, you'll understand that you are enough because look

629
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:32.960
how far you've come. If anybody's thinking that they're not enough,

630
00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:35.639
please just look back and look where you are now

631
00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:38.840
and know that you've made it to the point you're

632
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:41.800
at and you need to keep moving forward.

633
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:45.800
I completely agree, but at the time I was not

634
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:50.039
of that frame of mind, and exact in the World book,

635
00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:53.000
I even talk about setting goals, so it's okay to

636
00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:55.960
set goal, it's okay if you fall short. But at

637
00:43:56.079 --> 00:44:00.320
the time, my mindset was that, you know, you need

638
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:02.519
to achieve more, or you need to do more. You

639
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:04.519
need to be a better mom, a better wife, a

640
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:06.360
better whatever it might be.

641
00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:06.840
You know.

642
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:11.400
So my you know, I will probably speak about my

643
00:44:11.599 --> 00:44:15.400
second suicide attempt, which was the most dangerous, so to speak.

644
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:20.320
I was in the ICU for a while, and that

645
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:29.239
happened after my separation. I separated from my now ex

646
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:37.039
husband when both my children were adults, young adults, right. However,

647
00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:45.719
one unexpected outcome was that both children decided to estrange

648
00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:50.280
themselves from me, and it was just something that I

649
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:56.880
could not deal with. The second suicide attempt was well planned,

650
00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:03.079
it was supposed to work. I decided in my mind,

651
00:45:03.159 --> 00:45:07.840
these were the thoughts going through that I have. I

652
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:11.400
cannot force them to speak to me, right, I don't

653
00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:14.599
have that power, but I do have the power to

654
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:19.079
be here or not be here. And so yes, that

655
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:22.840
was my thinking of flaud As. It was right, and

656
00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:29.719
so I made the very conscious decision that you know,

657
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:33.199
I've had the date planned out, the time, everything, that

658
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:35.599
this was what I was gonna do, This is how

659
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:39.280
I was gonna do it, et cetera. It failed. Well,

660
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:42.880
I'm here at living proof, and it's also very amazing

661
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:46.039
that it failed because it should have succeeded. I used

662
00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:50.400
my scientific knowledge and I thought everything was gonna work,

663
00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:54.920
but it did not. And but I'm grateful. I am

664
00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:58.360
sure that there was a higher power that pulled me

665
00:45:58.480 --> 00:45:59.960
out of that coma.

666
00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:05.679
You know, of course, no doubt about it. And you know,

667
00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:11.760
unfortunately with this whole scenario that kids are more suicidal

668
00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:16.719
than ever from what I've seen and we actually know

669
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:19.119
here at the network because we used to have a

670
00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:22.199
whole thing of kind of like the Breakfast Club. We

671
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:25.639
had a bunch of teenagers that would never be together

672
00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:31.519
in school that we're all doing radio shows, and we

673
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:34.880
had them talking about all the hard topics that teens have,

674
00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:37.599
and you know, we had a connection with two one

675
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:42.159
one and Department of Safe Schools and a big part

676
00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:46.440
of what they talked about with suicidal ideation and how

677
00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:49.599
they could get help. And we actually there was somebody,

678
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:51.960
you remember, Rebel, There was somebody that was in a

679
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:55.360
chat room for one of the shows and literally because

680
00:46:55.400 --> 00:46:58.559
of the show, we got them help to go to

681
00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:01.960
two one one and actually get some help, whereas this

682
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:06.920
teenager probably never would have. And you know, and the

683
00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:09.599
teenage the reason it's so important to have people like

684
00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:11.920
you right now, the same teenagers if they make it

685
00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:16.119
through teenage world when they become adults, it's it doesn't

686
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:19.199
necessarily go away unless they have the right help. So

687
00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:23.079
they need people like you that you know, especially the

688
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:25.559
fact that you had the experiences you did, because and

689
00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:28.440
they can relate to you and they're more open to

690
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:32.679
listening and knowing that you did it, you know, So

691
00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:35.559
then they're open to listening. They're not gonna listen to

692
00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:38.599
somebody that just says, hey, it's okay, you'll be fine,

693
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:42.119
you know, and that's what you and I grew up in.

694
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:46.360
It's okay, you'll be fine, or stop making a big deal,

695
00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:51.679
or like there's a myriad of other statements made by

696
00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:56.239
your parents, your teachers, any authority figure back in our

697
00:47:56.360 --> 00:48:01.440
day that does not necessarily helped. And that's why I

698
00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:04.559
think there's a lot of mental anguish today is because

699
00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:08.159
a lot of people from our generation had things bottled

700
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:10.960
up and then it comes out later in life because

701
00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:13.840
you have to deal with it at some point in time.

702
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:18.880
So how do our listeners or anybody for that matter,

703
00:48:20.360 --> 00:48:25.519
connect with you on socials, on the web and more

704
00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:29.599
that you can help them as well, and also to

705
00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:33.559
get your books and all that good stuff.

706
00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:38.119
Okay, well I would I would direct them to my website,

707
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:43.960
which is www dot k Hilton. Hilton is spelled h

708
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:49.400
y l t o n dot com. Lots of information there,

709
00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:52.199
as well as free resources for those who might be

710
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:57.559
feeling suicidal or have other issues. The books are available

711
00:48:57.599 --> 00:49:02.440
on Amazon as well as Barnes Unknoble, and there is

712
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:06.920
a contact form on my website, so I am very

713
00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:14.639
happy to speak to anybody we're feeling suicidal.

714
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:18.639
Well, that's amazing, and what you're doing is amazing. We're

715
00:49:18.679 --> 00:49:20.920
going to have to have you talk a lot more

716
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:24.840
because certainly in one interview you can't cover the whole realm,

717
00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:30.519
and certainly there's you know, a lot of different aspects

718
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:35.000
of this discussion that we haven't even touched on today.

719
00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:39.679
If you were to leave our audience with one final

720
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:47.199
bit of advice or information or whatever in that realm,

721
00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:48.440
what would it be?

722
00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:54.400
Okay? I think my ultimate message is one of empowerment.

723
00:49:55.400 --> 00:49:58.880
I want listeners to know that no matter how dark

724
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:03.119
than that, there is always a dawn. And I know

725
00:50:03.559 --> 00:50:06.400
you can't really see that right away what there is.

726
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:10.159
You have to believe that there is a light at

727
00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:15.480
the end of the tunnel, and I want listeners to

728
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:21.639
move towards a brighter, more fulfilling future. It's there for.

729
00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:27.079
Everyone, It absolutely is, and yes, and it's also usually

730
00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:31.119
darkest before the dawn. So that's where the hope is.

731
00:50:31.239 --> 00:50:33.480
You know, if you think you're in the darkest place

732
00:50:33.519 --> 00:50:37.280
of your life, there is hope that it's darkest before

733
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:42.800
the dawn, and hopefully you know you can really see

734
00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:46.639
that experience it, or you have somebody like doctor Carla

735
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:49.760
Hilton that can help you through it from her own

736
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:53.719
life experiences. So I want to thank you very much

737
00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:55.639
for all you do to help people out there in

738
00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:58.400
the world, and thank you for being on the Adventures

739
00:50:58.400 --> 00:50:58.840
of Payment.

740
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:02.039
Thank you so much for helping me with a pleasure.

741
00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:07.880
Pleasure is all ours. And so you know what one,

742
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:12.400
I'm just gonna say, everybody needs to tune in next

743
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:15.960
week and every week Wednesday, one pm Eastern Time to

744
00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:18.840
the Adventures of Pipe Man. Make sure you go to

745
00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:24.239
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746
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:27.760
or over one hundred other places. And if you missed

747
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:30.159
am part of this show, you'll be able to hear

748
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:33.760
this show again and you can look up my interviews

749
00:51:33.800 --> 00:51:38.800
from Oklahoma and more. So stay tuned. We'll be back

750
00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:45.760
with you live next week. Roll it one.

751
00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:53.719
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipe Man.

752
00:51:54.320 --> 00:52:03.960
I'm w for CUI Radio.