Nov. 26, 2025
John Gallagher of Raven Talks About Metal Militia on No Life 'Til Leather
Silver Lining Music will release No Life ‘Til Leather – A Tribute To Metallica’s Kill ‘Em All on November 14th.
The fourth single from the all-star compilation is from the pioneering heavy metal legends RAVEN with their ear-splitting take on Metallica’s “Metal Militia.”
Metallica’s first proper tour was with Raven in 1983, on the famous Kill ‘Em All For One venture. Thus, it is only fitting that RAVEN features on the album with their powerfully unapologetic rendition of Metallica’s “Metal Militia.” With unrelenting energy and raw precision, RAVEN channels the ferocity of the original while stamping their own unmistakable identity on the track — a bold statement that captures the spirit and intensity of the entire album.
I think we captured that Metallica ‘snarl,’ especially by changing a few key elements! It features Mark [Gallagher] on vocals; today all is revealed!”
The tour also made a stop in Los Angeles on August 30, 1983, at the Country Club.
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Hi, you have done to censure Wow for you, young man.
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This is the Pipe Man here on the Adventures of
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Pipe Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm very
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excited about our next guest and why we're talking to
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him once again because definitely one of my favorite fans
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definitely a song they did just recently that I absolutely
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love the rendition of. So let's welcome to the show,
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John Gallagher from Raven How are you? I am doing good,
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pipe How are you, Hi, I'm doing phenomenal. So, like,
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what I love about doing this interview right now is
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we're talking about doing the No Lifetill Leather tribute to
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Metallica's kilm All my favorite Metallica album by the way,
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and the fact that you guys did Metal Militia. But
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most importantly, what I'm really excited about is I was
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at that show at the Country Club in LA when
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you played with Metallica in August of nineteen eighty three.
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That was a hell of a show.
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I mumble that, yeah, oh my god, like and you know,
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that is what amazes me. There were so many iconic
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type shows in the eighties. That always amazes me that
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when I bring up certain shows like that, that artists,
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I've been doing it as long as you have, Like,
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those are the shows that stick in your mind.
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Well, it was a It was a big deal and
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it was pretty funny as well, because we hear laws
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and particular, oh man, LA sucks, LA sucks, l A suck.
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We go to LA and all of a sudden these
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boxes come out with the brand new symbols and he's polishing. Guy,
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what's this what you've been playing those shitty symbols all
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to it? He goes, it's l a man. So that
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was pretty funny, but it was you know, California, here
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we are. It was great, you know for three kids
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from Newcastle. That was a pretty big deal. We've seen
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on the TV shows.
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You know, right right, And I mean I had already
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listened to your music, but then when I saw it live,
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I was like, oh my god, that's amazing. Because one
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of the things about your band two is you sound
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just as good live as you do on a studio album,
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which isn't always the case with bands.
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No. And the other thing is when you hear a
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music which is rather crazy and energetic, and then you
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see you play on stage and we're rather crazy and
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energetic exactly. I remember. I remember the first time I
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saw Motorheads. I'd heard them like, wow, this is kind
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of really rough row and basically it must be crazy
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on stage. And when I saw them, they could barely
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stand up. They were so drunk. It's like, nah, it
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doesn't quite work.
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Oh that was most of LA though. I mean I
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grew up in Jersey and my dad moved me to
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LA in nineteen eighty. Imagine a time to move to
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LA and be a teenager. I was, I was twelve.
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That was You were there when it was all happening.
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That's pretty cool.
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I know, right, it was wild. And you know, it
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is funny what you're saying about LA, because it was
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true and that it was really bad once Metallic en
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Slayer left LA and went to the Bay Area, because
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then we weren't left with anything in LA, and me
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and my bro used to like hitchhike up to the
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Bay Area so we could go to real shows. Because,
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as you know, the whole dynamic of metal change at
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that point in time.
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Yeah, it was sponsored by Sepporra.
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I think, right, Oh my god, but I saw the
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video for Metal Militia. Well, first of all, the minute
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I got the email from Liz, I'm like, I responded immediately,
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which I don't always do. I'm like, are there an
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interviews for this? Because this is cool, you know, just
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the whole idea of doing this tribute to kill the ball.
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And then I watched a video for Metal Militia and
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oh my god, that same eighties energy that you had
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then you have in that video now.
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Oh yeah, I mean, it's that's what we do. Ah.
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There's there's nothing more, I guess, uninspiring than to see
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a bunch of old guys trading on past glories. Like
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you know, they will turn the guitars down a bit
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and we'll be the jangle and here's the acoustic folk, uh,
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you know, drugged out version of what we used to do.
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Now that we've always said that ever happened shoot me
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in the head, you know. Ah, we are more energetic
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now than we were then. And you know, we may
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be old thoughts, but we're definitely crazy old thoughts. Let
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me tell you.
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You know, it's funny you should say that because I
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just turned fifty nine, and I could tell you I'm
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probably in better shape for the marsh pit now than
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I was at sixteen. Yep. You know, so, I mean
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it's so true, like you see bands like yourself, you
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know that are up there still. Like I think about
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it too, like how many people can really still stay
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true to their music of when they were, you know,
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back in the eighties today. And that's what's so cool
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about Raven because I like, it's true, you guys are
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just like just as fast, loud, energetic, and brutal as
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you ever were.
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Yeah, and fun. I mean, we definitely have a lot
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of fun and we like to pretend to be stand
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up comedians for at least occasionally. But you know, Church
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would ast, they say, right, Butch would talk about that later.
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But I can still hit all the notes I could
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hit when I was you know, twenty two, twenty three.
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Man, that's a man of like you're hot tool like
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work to do that because I don't know, I sang
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thrashold metal for a little while while as a teenager.
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I would never be able to do it today, Like
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I couldn't. I hown't know many bands that can holding that.
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Even Slayer like Tom can't really do those screams he
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did back in the eighties.
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Well he's he's got those neck is shoes hasn't he
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I mean.
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Nuts, yeah, that stuff.
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I know how he feels. My next cricked out like
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three days ago. And I've been in agony. But you know,
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all part of the fun of getting old, I know.
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And me, I have osteo arthrais in neck and I
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still had bang at every show I go to and
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I still go in the pit and I'm like, I'm
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still an idiot. I remember way back and let it
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be a teenager. I would head back at shows like
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at the country Club, and I would get like this
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migrain headache and just keep doing it till the adrelline
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pumped so hard I didn't feel a headache anymore.
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But old seeing you don't stop having fun because you
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get old. She get old because you stop having fun.
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Yes one, you know, look at Ozzie. I mean we're.
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Eighteen year old with fifty years experience exactly.
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Listen. I have four kids, eight grandkids. None of them
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can keep up with me. I'm like, what's wrong with
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you people? You should have the energy and here I am,
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like I was just saying to my grandson today. I
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was like, you know, why can't you keep up with me?
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I'm your grandfather. Come on I'm a chose, right, So
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what how had this come about that they you were,
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you know, recruited to do Metal Militia for this album.
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But we were actually recording the that was the last
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album that wasn't the EP. It was the last album
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All Hell's Break and Loose, and it was the first
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record for silver Lining, and they said, uh, you know,
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as part of the deal, here, could you guys do
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a Metallica cover for a Metallica cover album we're doing,
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you know, and there's going to be diamond Head and
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Saxon And we're like, yeah, why not, that'd be fun.
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But what song? And they give us a choice, so, like,
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I don't know, four or five songs, and it was like,
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Metal Militia, that's the craziest song. Let's do that, and
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let's rev it up and let's have you know, let's
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let's twist. So we you know, we put a put
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a few things in and unfortunately make us take a
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few things out because of standards and practices and synchronization
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rates and so I can't even tell you. I can
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tell you there was a bit at the end which
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was really funny and we had to take it off unfortunately,
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But we did get to do a jazz version of
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a song at the beginning, which no one will be
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able to figure out, but we know what it is.
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I had to slip a little bit of cliff in
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the middle, and we changed the arrangement, added a few
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extra riffs and cut a few down and venized it.
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But it's still true to the original, you know, because
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the original is crazy. So we wanted to keep that spirit.
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And one thing that came right up is Mate went,
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Mark should sing this. He's got the voice for this.
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I'm like, yeah, you're absolutely right, because he's got that
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rough kind of bond scored and for this he actually
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sounds like James On.
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It's hilarious, you tas kind of you know, like I
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was wondering that at first. I was like, okay, so
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I'm curious before I even saw it, I'm like, I'm
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curious why chose Mark to sing on it? And then
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I saw I was like, oh, that's perfect.
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You know, that's the first time Marks some leads since
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rock hard back in nineteen eighty two. It's like the
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secret weapon, absolutely right, all right, long Overdube. So we
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got to do that. I sing Hormonies for a change,
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and it's it's just great and Mike's insane on it
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on the drums of course, so it was a no
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brainer for us. We banged that up with the arrangement
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very quickly. We say, what do you think of this? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Everyone stuck a ten cents into it there, put that
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cool down dun dunk dun dun dunk dun dun dund
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a little bit like that. They're riffing it great, great fun,
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and did it and forgot all about it until it
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was like, yeah, finally the other bands have done this stuff,
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so it's going to come out. It's coming out like
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three weeks. Can you do a video? What? So we said, well,
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it's there's the Metallia connection. We have a strong connection
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with Metallica from day one. Let's use video from the
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show we did with them a couple of years ago
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in Fort Lauderdale, the tribute to John and Marsha's Zula. Yeah,
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a bunch of classic photographs. So that's definitely a freeze frame.
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What's this? What's this?
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What's this?
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So it's you know, it bears from beat the viewing
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for sure.
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And then as an old score that was definitely me
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when I started seeing the pictures, I'm like, oh, wow,
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it's actually funny because funny story, I was the first
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quote unquote merch dude for Armored Saint. Oh way back
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way back when. Joey and I have talked about this
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because we've been friends this day, but we've talked about
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it on interviews, and he like blew my mind one
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interview because he brought something up I didn't even know.
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So it basically happened. I was like, I don't know,
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fifteen or something like that, fourteen and me and my
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bro went up to Armored Saint. They didn't have any
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merch and we see them all the time, like we
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became like friends with them, and we're like, hey, if
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we make your T shirts and pins, can we sell
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them at your show and we'll give you fifty percent.
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They're like sure, you know.
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And so.
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During this interview, Joey goes to me, you know that
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famous picture, and it reminded me when I saw the
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old pictures he had in the video. There's this famous
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picture of Lars when he was like fifteen or something
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like that, you know, really young. He was wearing an
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Armored SAT shirt and holding a guitar and it's like
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you can find it on the internet. It's like all
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over and he goes, you know, that's your shirt. I'm like,
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oh my god, you're shitting me. And he goes and
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Lars still has it and I'm like, no way, I
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don't even have it anymore. He goes, neither do I.
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I'm like, that's the coolest thing. So then I go
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on tour and I do festivals, doing interviews at festivals
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and press coverage all over the US, UK, Europe. And
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I was doing one festival and I was interviewing Lars
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k and Lar's kids who have a band, and it
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was like the second time I was interviewing. And usually
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when I interview the kids, like I've interviewed all the
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kids of Metallic, it's pretty funny, but I don't bring
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up the parents like they're there to make their own mark.
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So like, I'm not interviewing you so we can talk
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about Metallic or Lars, I'm interviewing you for your band.
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But it was so funny. We were talking off the
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interview and I'm like, yeah, I didn't really want to
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talk about your dad on the interview because its all
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about you. But and I told him that story. I'm like,
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I wonder if he does really have it and he
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goes and his kids go, Yeah, he probably does. He
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has a whole big closet of like every shirt he's
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