July 7, 2026

SYMETRIA Release New Single + Lyric Video The Game via Curtain Call Records - PipemanRadio Interview

SYMETRIA Release New Single + Lyric Video "The Game" via Curtain Call Records Celebrates 10 Years with New EP and Expanding Tour Schedule Hard rock/metal band SYMETRIA have unveiled their powerful new single, "The Game," available now through...

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SYMETRIA Release New Single + Lyric Video "The Game" via Curtain Call Records

Celebrates 10 Years with New EP and Expanding Tour Schedule

Hard rock/metal band SYMETRIA have unveiled their powerful new single, "The Game," available now through Curtain Call Records, alongside an official lyric video. Recorded at SoundMine Studio in East Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania,

"The Game" was produced and mixed by acclaimed producer Dan Malsch. "The Game is really about the two games of life," explains the band. "The finite game is one you can play to win, and then it's over. The infinite game is different. It's played so that existence can continue and future generations have a game left to play. If not enough people are participating in that infinite game, everything eventually falls apart, and there are no games left to play at all."

The accompanying lyric video brings the song's themes to life, highlighting the tension between competition, purpose, and the enduring struggle to preserve what matters beyond ourselves.

Symetria has hit their 10 year mark running full steam ahead with a new EP All or Nothing releasing summer of 2026 on Curtain Call Records. This marks Symetria's 3rd release, and their second with Curtain Call. Behind that comes a support lineup that makes it hard to deny the bands presence is growing both locally and on a national scene.

The band was in New Jersey on Saturday, June 27th with an appearance at The NJ Metalfest XI. They make their triumphant return to Reverb in Reading PA on Saturday, July 25th as the sole local opener for this summers first leg of the Metal Church tour.

A few short weeks later on Friday August 14th at the Schuylkill County Fairgrounds, Symetria is in the company of an impressive list of local and national talent selected to support the Coal Region Music Fest. This is an event put on annually to raise funds and awareness to the local veterans support agencies in the region.

Then comes a huge road trip out to Bloomville, Ohio, where Symetria gets to stretch their legs for the Smoking Cole's Bike Rally an 8 Day event where the band lands themselves a Saturday night slot opening for the legendary Lita Ford. After that run of 4 shows Symetria makes their first appearance in Allentown PA in 8 years at the Allentown Arts Gallery.

The band then wraps up it's current schedule with their 2nd straight appearance on B'N'R fest Saturday November 7th in Birdsboro PA a local Reading area music festival that brings together some of the longest running local and regional acts in the eastern PA music scene. The band has plans in the works to tour for the first time with intentions of late summer or fall of 2027.

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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures of

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Pipe Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm here

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with our next guest, uh who has some killer new

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music that we want to talk about, a new single

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and oh my god, I love all the story about

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the whole thing.

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So let's welcome to the show, Symmetria. How are you good? Good?

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How you doing that good?

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So now I have the most important question right now,

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most important? Did I pronounce your band name right?

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Actually? Yes? You did?

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Wow? Okay? Great? As Like my worst fear is like.

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That's a bad way to start an interview, you know,

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And so if if I'm not one hundred percent sure,

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I'll ask like that just to make sure, or I'll just.

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Hey, don't worries, man. You know, it's happened so many times.

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We've joked around and we got to pull the old

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Leonard Skinnyard pronounced some met Tria for one of these

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albums at some point.

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Right exactly, you know.

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And nowadays it's so hard to find a band name

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that band names are misspelled, they're pronounced differently than you

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would think so I never assume with any band name

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right that I'm pronouncing it properly right right, because.

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You never know. Uh.

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So, you're celebrating ten years, you have a new EP,

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expanding to our schedule, a lot going on, So let's

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let's talk about the new single and lyric video the game,

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all right? Tell me, because I know you guys have

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like a story behind that song, and I want our

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listeners to hear the story about behind that song.

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Yeah, I mean, if I'm not mistaken, that was the

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first one that Matt really helped us finish right in.

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So that's you know, pretty important right there, right off

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the bat, as far as that piece, he's the newest

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member of.

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The band coming in.

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And beyond that, like you know, lyrically speaking, you know,

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it's really about what I call like the game of life,

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right you got, there's two games going on at most

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from my experience, most people don't fully realize all the time.

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You got, you know, the.

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Game of life where you're playing to win in your

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life and you don't really think about anything before you,

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anything after you, or anything like that. And if you're

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playing it to win in that way, you're not really

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doing much other than you know, it's kind of serving yourself.

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And at the end of it all, if everybody's.

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Playing that way, well, then the big game that most

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people miss out on, the eternal game, gets missed out

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on completely and eventually it all falls apart.

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You know, yeah, totally.

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And that's what I love about the song, is that

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story behind what it really means, because you know, people

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listen to songs they think they know what it means,

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and sometimes they may be write or maybe it's their

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own meaning. But I think we're really in twenty twenty

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of want to jump off the game board.

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Like my wife and I would talking. She's like, what

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do we do? I'm like, you know what, We just

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do everything we can to make the world as good

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at place as possible so that when we come back,

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we find each other sooner and it's better than it

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is now.

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No doubt.

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And you know, I've thought of something recently like, Okay,

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when you go back that before the internet, before social media,

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I don't know that things aren't necessarily much worse now.

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Maybe they are, but they're definitely too much more in

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your face, right, you know, And I think some of

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it shouldn't be so much in our face because I

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don't know, it just creates people being a bunch of

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miserable people because they can't escape all this crap. And

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there's always been crap as long as there's been politics.

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Well, and you know, it's like there's an over under

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here at some point, right, you know, we get to

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a point where we who asked.

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For some of this stuff?

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Where we're getting like I remember asking for computers in

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my car. I don't remember asking for bluetooth on my grill.

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And if they're just going to keep force feeding technology

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down our throats at some point, like, well, who's asking

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for this? Because if nobody's asking for what are you

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doing with it? Why are we being you know, forced

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and trapped into situations that we might not necessarily want

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to be in. But yeah, if you look back, right,

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pre go pre internet. And I'm not anti Internet by

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any means. I'm anti something's data centers, a surveillance flop

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cameras and all that shit. But if you really went

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back before Internet, you stop and think about it, right,

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if you want to see it was going on somewhere

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else in the world. You went to the library, you

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got an encyclopedia, somebody had been there taking pictures.

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You could go get a national geographic.

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You could read out about these places that people had

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been and then if you decided you want to really

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learn more about it, you went on an adventure for yourself.

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Now you just sit here.

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And you binge everything on the internet and then go

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back to your cubicle and punch the clock for nine

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to five.

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Yeah, the life where in is horrible.

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I'll even go step further. It's like people don't even care.

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What said, if it's true or not. They just grabbed

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these headlines and run with it. They don't even read articles.

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Like if you read some of the articles of debate,

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click shit, Like the article doesn't even match the headline,

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but nobody knows because they don't check it out.

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You know.

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I also like, as far as metal goes, like, thank

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god there wasn't all this shit.

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In the eighties when I was on the Sunset Strip. Okay,

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Like I don't want a record of ay of that shit?

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You know.

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How many hundreds of others right?

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And you know the thing is, it's funny because I

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am a techie and I still agree with what you're saying.

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Like one day, I was calling my youngest daughter. I'm like,

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you know, some days I just want to drive down

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the road and throw my phone, my computer, and my

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iPad out the window and keep driving.

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And she goes, Dad, who are you gaing?

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You're just as addicted anybody, And I said, yeah, I am,

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except I come from a time before we had this stuff,

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and it was much better. It's my stupid generation that

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built all this shit, and we built it because we

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wanted to make.

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Our lives easier. My life is not easier, okay, Like

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we all have no time in the day.

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Everybody's stressed out, everybody's got anxiety, everybody has panic attacks.

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I give all that stuff to the Internet and social media,

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and there's never a shutdown in anything.

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Like even me. I run a radio station.

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I can't tell you how many people text me at

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like three am and then freak out when they don't

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get a response five minutes later. Like, Okay, I get it,

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I'm a radio station. But still, if you couldn't reach

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your radio station before all this stuff, you waited till

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the next day.

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Yeah, and what was wrong with that?

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At least when you got somebody on the phone, you

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were going to get a real person, right.

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I was thinking about the other day as I was

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going to the mailbox, the the the old school mailbox.

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You're at this studio, and I'm like, oh, man, I

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missed the days when we only had this because like

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your game, been bored.

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I can't.

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I waked up in the morning, I already have three

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hundred emails and they're just from falling asleep, you know.

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And it's like Jesus Christ, like when the postman came

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by with your mail, you didn't have three hundred pieces

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of mail ever, you know. So it's like, because we

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have all this, you know, And then you know, people think.

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Because they have all these tools, they should use them all.

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Just because the tools are available doesn't mean you have

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to use them.

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And I'm one hundred percent on the side with you

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at Ai and the ring and all that stuff, because listen,

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I remember in the eighties saying the machines are going

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to take over.

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Well here we are.

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Yeah, you ain't kidding, man, here we are.

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And not only that, but like my kids all have

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rings at their house.

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No, I don't want to ring at my house.

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So everything I'm doing is videotaped all the freaking time,

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and I don't find them to feel safer with that ring.

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It's more like they get obsessed with watching who comes

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to their door all the time. To me, it all

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creates more fear. Instead, we we're being sold at security.

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I don't feel more secure. I also don't feel more

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secure when Alexa is interrupting my interviews.

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Okay, which when I've done about home instead in the studio,

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that will happen, like in the middle of an interview,

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shall pipe in and like hey, but out.

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You know, and now music the most important thing.

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Okay, we need bands like you that are actually musicians,

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not people just punching a couple of things on a

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computer and making music.

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Like that's weird to me. Oh, I don't.

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First off, thank you very much, I appreciate that. I

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think we feel the same way.

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Right.

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That's it's uh music.

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It's got a life of its own, and you gotta

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know how to curate that life within it as you're

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putting it together. And you don't get that with a

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keyboard and a synthesizer the way you do with real

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instruments and real creativity exactly.

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And the follow with that, Like I like all types

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of music and all that, but it's you can't call

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some like like a DJ for example. You know they're

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touching buttons here and there. You can't call them musicians

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because what are they doing musically?

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Exactly? Like I don't even get. I mean I did

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get when I had to do press coverage for once

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one once. I'm like, okay, I get this, but I

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don't get the whole idea of a DJ concert, Like.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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If you're a nightclub, I get it.

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Okay, that's where there should be a DJ. There should

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not be a concert for DJs. Yeah, it's like weird

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to me, Like what kind of concert is that You're

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pushing a couple of buttons, twisting a couple knobs, moving

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some faders, scratching some crap. But and that doesn't mean

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you're not talented, but you're not a musician.

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Like you said, well, if you go one step further,

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you go over some of the other countries. They got

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concerts for holograms and ah the insert oh yeah, completely

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CGI generated. The music is all AI generated.

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It's just garbage.

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And I think people don't realize what you're missing there.

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You're missing the depth, the passion, the emotion that music

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gives you, Like, if you listen to some of this

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AI music, does it sound good maybe, but does it

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invoke emotion? No? No, And that's what we need. That's

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what Music's the best therapy there is. Like why would

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you get rid of the human element of it?

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Because everybody wants their chance to create it, and they'll

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put the work in to learn how to play the

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instrument to take an actual chance of creating it. And

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that's really what it comes down to. Everybody's capable of

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learning how to play an instrument, and then you let

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it take it as far as you want it to

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take you.

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It is laziness.

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I'll be blunt about it, okay, you know, because I

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do think it Like I played drums, I sucked. I

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played guitar. I sucked at that too. I also sang

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thresh mets sucked at that too. But there was one

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common denominator in all three of those things. The idea

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of playing an instrument sounded.

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Great to me.

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The work I had to put into to become good

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maybe not so much when I was young, you know.

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And I also to.

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Your point, I think in any industry like there are

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no experts nowadays and anything like everybody thinks they're an expert, right,

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you know, I think there's something to be said about

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an expert. You know, you're not gonna You're not gonna

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become Randy Rhodes by pushing buttons.

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No, no, you're not.

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Just if you're getting master an instrument, it's like master

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and a craft or anything else. You know, it gets

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it a point where you're, you know, playing with it

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on a subconscious level. You know, you just know, you

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know what you want to hear, your fingers go there

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kind of stuff. You don't get that same relationship with

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your JKL semispace.

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Right.

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And I think too that everybody that has something to

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say about music or musicians or creating that AI stuff

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should still learn how to play an instrument, because then

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you'll have a lot more respect for that musician.

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Yeah, what it.

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Really takes because it always sounds great when you're playing

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air guitar, like oh I could play that song, you know,

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until you actually get on the instrument, like oh how

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do I do this?

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You know?

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Yeah?

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I agree, It's like that's what gives me more respect

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for people like you guys, because I did try and

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I sucked because I didn't put enough effort into it.

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Like you said, anybody can learn, but it's how much

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effort you're gonna put. I remember, like hearing about Randy

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Rhodes practicing eight hours a day, I was like, holy shit,

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I don't want to practice eight hours a day, or

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or like even like I had a practice pad for years.

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I played drums for nine years. The reason I sucked

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is because I can stand using the practice pad in

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the beginning, like you got to do those beginning things,

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or like with the guitar, I didn't want to do scales.

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Just let me play a song. Okay, I don't want.

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To do scales, but you need that foundation to be

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able to not only play music, but to create it right.

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And that's the big difference. Like I've learned over the years.

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You know, to learn a song is one thing, and

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like to learn your chords, learn your scales.

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But when you.

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Actually start putting something together and taking what you've learned

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by picking up bits and pieces other people's music you've

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played and they start creating your own sound with that's

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that's where learning all of those other bits and pieces

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really comes in, because you have to understand how it

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goes together and the flow.

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Exactly and you know, there's so many artists I'm impressed

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with because of what they can do. Like even like

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artists like you that I've been around for ten years,

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I'm always so prep impressed that you can still write new.

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Music because.

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I think it gets harder as you have created a

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lot of music throughout the years, Like it's hard to

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come up with something new, Like you know, think about

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your first album. Those songs probably last for years and

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then you have to come up with other stuff after that.

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Like it's to me, it's so impressive, you know.

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I mean, I think part of it is just the

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fact that so much of like the lyrical content especially

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it tends to revolve around a lot of what's going

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on in the world at the time.

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The stuff's written, right, Yeah, So as.

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Long as the guys are able to stay creative and

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what they're doing musically, you know, my part's a little

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easier because I get to draw more influence on what's

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current today versus does this sound like something we did

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on two albums ago kind of deal.

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Well, exactly.

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And it's like you take certain bands that were like

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teenage bands that their music still is kind of teenage.

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It's like.

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How relative is it if you're still writing teenage music

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when you're in your forties fifties.

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Oh yeah, it's got to evolve exactly. If you want

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to stay relevant and current and keep attracting new people

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and keep people paying attention, you gotta be singing about

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and writing about stuff that's going.

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To do that exactly.

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And you know, I'll even go a step further with it.

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And the fact is is, you know, the one thing

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I will say positive is, Man, it makes me sad

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that you could take songs written in the eighties by

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like metal and punk bands, change the names in the songs,

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and you could still have the same song today.

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That blows my mind.

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Like, how are we still writing songs out the nuclear

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award that's going to blow up the world?

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Like because the threat is bigger now than it was

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exactly exactly, and it's like crazy, like how come we're

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not over this shit?

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You know?

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And so yeah, like so your song, like, to me,

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it just says it all. The game just says it all,

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because life is kind of a game too, and uh

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you know, sometimes that game is good, sometimes not so much.

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And uh so I love when.

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You write a real song that people can actually relate to.

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That's that's that's the goal, honestly, I mean, and the

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goal at the end of it all is to have

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stuff that everybody can relate to in some way. And

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if it's not one song, it's another one. And if

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you're not liking, you know, some this particular album, you

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might like a different one. This EP wasn't your flavor,

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You'll like something else, you know exactly.

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And there's so much there's.

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So many people out there looking for something quality to

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listen to, that it just got to put quality material out,

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I hope exactly.

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I think that's something AI doesn't do.

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Like AI just spits the stuff out like like I

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call it like a puppy mill.

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Well, so my overall take on AI, and I've thought

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about this a lot, because really, what AI is doing,

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it's like a conglomerate of the greatest hits. You create

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an AI system and you turn it loose to learn

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everything about everything that's ever existed, and that's great. So

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AI goes out there and it absorbs all the top

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one hundred charts for music that ever existed. It takes

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odd information, it says, all right, based on the one

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hundred thousand songs I learned as your AI Claude, this

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is the best song that I can write.

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Boom spits it out to you.

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But that song's gonna dirty to pool because there's nothing

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new in that song.

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There's nothing creative in that song.

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It's a greatest hits song and everybody's and I think

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it's great because it's the greatest hits of one hundred thousand.

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You dirty that pool half a dozen times and you're

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gonna notice real quick that the quality is starting to

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taper off.

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What a What a great point because I've also noticed

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with AI that when it like searches the Internet, most

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of what it finds to give its synopsis is old.

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Yeah.

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Like I was just looking at something today that the

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stuff info was given me was from like the eighties.

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Oh like that's not really a relevant right, you know.

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And here's the problem.

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People don't proofread or double check this stuff. Like there's

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a reason we have the AI for free instant because

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then it doesn't cost these major corporations any money to

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do research and development.

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We're doing it for them. We're training the II for them.

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Yeah you know, yeah, because from a corporate side, they

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have to spend money to use it, Like We got

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the guys in the office at work. They had to

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go and take classes and get licensed. And now whenever

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they use it, you have to use like crypto tokens

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to run the AI algorithms. It costs money to use. Yeah,

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that's companies aren't realizing that till it's too late. They're

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already some of them are already starting to regret the

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amount of money they're having to spend to get quality

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products out of the AI service exactly.

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And you know, if there was a live concert you

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were doing and all the technology took a shit and

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was gone, you could still do that concert because you're

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a musician. What's that artist going to do that only

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created music using AI?

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Forget that? What's the guy who's gonna do who can't

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sing without auto too?

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Well? There you go.

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I mean, we could go worse than AI if.

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Right right, we could go down the whole rabbit hole there.

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But that's you're absolutely right.

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And I remember back back in the cover days, you know,

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twenty something years ago, we were playing this little dive

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bar way up north in Pennsylvania and we tripped a breaker.

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So the breaker trips, the only thing left is the

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drummer in me. Everybody else is gone and we're playing

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living after midnight, and the whole bar jumped in nice

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and it still sounded good.

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I was still singing.

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We had a backbeat going with the drums, and everybody

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else just chimed in and sang along.

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I love it. I love it at the.

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Compute that the mainframe didn't shut down.

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And speaking and performances you just got done. Like I

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go on tour and I do festivals all over the US,

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UK and Europe, and I am a Jersey boy and

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I didn't even know.

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About this festival you just did.

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Yeah, and the New Jersey Metal Fest eleven.

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How was that? I want to hear about that?

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Oh what, Matt, why don't you take this one?

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No?

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Yeah, I thought it went really well. I mean it

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was one of our one of our better performances, I'd say,

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up there with UH, or at least when I was

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in it, because our first the first show I was

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went in with UH Symmetria. We we played at Reverb

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and Reading and that was like, you know, the guys said, oh,

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that was the best we've done. But you know at

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Metal Fest, you know, I thought it was like it

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was up there as far as like one of our

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better shows, because you know, the crowd was involved, and

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I mean yeah, in the heat of the moment, like

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I'm thinking, oh, I'm playing too fast, you know, but

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I waked it back and I'm like, oh, I was

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actually on time. Uh It's crazy what adrenaline will do

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to you.

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Right, exactly.

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And you guys will be back on the twenty fifth

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at the at Reverb.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah we are.

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Yeah, we're back back at READB but twenty fifth, and

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that's what Metal Church, Metal Church, Heathen and All Sinners

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we're on. They're coming through with their first leg of

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They're Dead to Right's tour and we picked up the

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local slot for it.

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Nice.

455
00:22:58.839 --> 00:23:03.279
I love it. And yeah playing with Metal Church that's cool.

456
00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:05.599
I remember seeing them in the clubs way back in

457
00:23:05.640 --> 00:23:06.200
the eighties.

458
00:23:06.200 --> 00:23:08.640
So oh yeah, yeah, we're pretty stoked about that.

459
00:23:09.640 --> 00:23:10.240
Nice.

460
00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:14.240
I love it. And so how did you guys get together?

461
00:23:15.799 --> 00:23:17.319
How did this happen?

462
00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:20.960
As far as what Matt coming in and the dandy.

463
00:23:20.759 --> 00:23:23.119
Yes, yes, yes, yes, so.

464
00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:25.079
Funny.

465
00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:29.240
So really, my mom she's never on Craigslist like she's

466
00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:33.079
usually just she's usually on Marketplace or something like that,

467
00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:36.839
and she happened to be on it one day while

468
00:23:36.839 --> 00:23:39.440
I was up at school because I went to Aubreak

469
00:23:39.480 --> 00:23:44.680
College in reading, and she text me and she's like, man,

470
00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:47.119
there's this band that's pretty local to you that's looking

471
00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:49.640
for a drummer. And I'm like, all right, sure that

472
00:23:49.759 --> 00:23:53.960
sounds good. So I reached out. They Vince sent me

473
00:23:54.400 --> 00:23:55.359
the where do We Go Wrong?

474
00:23:55.440 --> 00:23:55.640
EP?

475
00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:59.559
I learned the parts for that, showed up. There was

476
00:23:59.599 --> 00:24:03.680
a another guy there who was he auditioned before me.

477
00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:08.200
But then I went up and you know, I did

478
00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:11.160
my thing and they and the guy said to me

479
00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:12.720
after he was like, yoah, you beat me on that.

480
00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:15.000
I love it.

481
00:24:16.960 --> 00:24:17.680
So here we are.

482
00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:19.000
That's amazing.

483
00:24:20.119 --> 00:24:23.319
It almost sounds like, you know, a Metallica story, because

484
00:24:23.359 --> 00:24:26.400
that's how James and Lauren's got together an ad.

485
00:24:28.119 --> 00:24:30.680
You know, it's so old school.

486
00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:34.160
I love well, and especially Craigslist in today's day and age, right,

487
00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:36.799
I know, right, he threw it up on Craigslist to

488
00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:40.279
see if anything would happen, and so many people spend

489
00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:44.079
so much. It's so hard to find players anymore, especially

490
00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:46.720
at this level where you still want somebody that lives local,

491
00:24:46.759 --> 00:24:48.799
what you can get together with a lot and stuff

492
00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:51.559
like that. You know, I understand when you get further

493
00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:54.799
up the line, you can be further apart, and you know,

494
00:24:54.880 --> 00:24:57.559
pick and choose he us and stuff because everybody's doing

495
00:24:57.559 --> 00:24:59.559
it full time. But you know, we all have jobs,

496
00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:02.200
so we're lucky to get together twice a week to

497
00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:04.720
keep working on stuff and having somebody local.

498
00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:08.279
It's really hard. And we found Matt. I think Kenny

499
00:25:08.319 --> 00:25:09.079
told us.

500
00:25:09.279 --> 00:25:11.319
I think we've found Matt within three months of Kenny

501
00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:13.519
saying that he was, you know, going to be stepping

502
00:25:13.519 --> 00:25:15.599
out without a problem.

503
00:25:16.119 --> 00:25:18.920
And we're sure Matt's not a serial killer, right, because

504
00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:20.680
that's a lot that comes off of gregs.

505
00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:25.240
No, it wasn't me on Craigslist. It was my mom,

506
00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:27.000
so so she's got to get looked at.

507
00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:29.640
Oh, well we have to worry about your mom then, okay,

508
00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:32.680
keep an eye out for her, I.

509
00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:36.559
Think considering, I think, well, coming up on being officially

510
00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:38.119
in the band almost a year.

511
00:25:38.400 --> 00:25:39.880
Yes, September it will be a year.

512
00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:42.559
Yeah, September will be a year. So safe to say, uh,

513
00:25:43.160 --> 00:25:45.000
I haven't killed anyone yet or have any.

514
00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:46.799
Ideas that we know of that.

515
00:25:46.839 --> 00:25:51.519
Well, yeah, I don't want to see you guys like

516
00:25:51.839 --> 00:25:53.799
Made for Lifetime movie or anything.

517
00:25:55.799 --> 00:25:58.319
The only serial killers we keep around his milk. Don't

518
00:25:58.319 --> 00:25:59.160
worry about.

519
00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:02.720
It, right, I love it. That's great.

520
00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:09.559
So tell us what else people should know about Symmetria.

521
00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:12.920
Well, yeah, so outside the Metal Church show coming up

522
00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:16.640
a couple weeks after that, we're playing a fairly local

523
00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:19.680
show up here at the Scougle County fair Grounds for

524
00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:24.160
the Veterans Association for the Coal Region. They're doing a

525
00:26:24.200 --> 00:26:27.519
two day festival to raise money and awareness for the veterans.

526
00:26:28.400 --> 00:26:30.640
Some national acts are coming in, a bunch of local

527
00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:35.920
bands are playing, and then we got the Wheat Labor

528
00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:38.680
Day weekend, we are heading out to Ohio to play

529
00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:42.359
the Smoke and Cole's Rally in Bloomville. That's our first

530
00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:44.839
time on something that big, I believe lead a Ford

531
00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:47.559
Hinder and a couple others of that scale or headline

532
00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:51.519
and that one. Two weeks after that, we're in Allentown

533
00:26:51.559 --> 00:26:55.079
at a local place called the Allentown Arts Gallery. And

534
00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:58.119
then November one, we're down in Birdsboro with friends of

535
00:26:58.160 --> 00:26:59.640
ours for their annual.

536
00:26:59.319 --> 00:27:01.440
Big B and R they call it.

537
00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:04.200
It's a big local metal band concert with a bunch

538
00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:06.279
of men that have been in the Reading area for

539
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:09.839
anywhere from ten to thirty years, depending on who's there.

540
00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:11.200
I love it.

541
00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:13.640
I love it, and I love that you're gonna be

542
00:27:13.799 --> 00:27:17.279
playing with lead of Ford. She's actually coming our studio

543
00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:19.319
here because she lives in South Florida.

544
00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:22.279
Oh cool, and she is cool.

545
00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:25.799
As hell, Like you know, you never know sometimes with people.

546
00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:29.200
But that's why I find the icons like her are

547
00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:32.519
always the ones that are cool as hell. It's usually

548
00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:36.960
the bands that think they're icons and aren't that are not.

549
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:41.799
Cool as hell. You know. It's like you mentioned Leonard Scared.

550
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:46.240
I interviewed them three times before Rossington died, Okay, and

551
00:27:46.279 --> 00:27:47.359
those dudes they're just.

552
00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:48.240
Good old boys.

553
00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:51.440
They have no clue that they're Leonard's skinner like they do,

554
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:54.559
but you know not by their attitude. They were just laughing,

555
00:27:54.839 --> 00:27:57.880
laughing the whole interview, like they're just having a good time.

556
00:27:58.279 --> 00:27:59.319
And that's the way it should be.

557
00:27:59.480 --> 00:28:05.240
Man, it's music. You can't take yourself too seriously. You're

558
00:28:05.319 --> 00:28:08.039
serious about your craft, but not about who you are.

559
00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:11.279
If you're blessed enough about there doing it at a

560
00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:13.039
professional level, it should be fun.

561
00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:16.000
Oh you know what, at any level.

562
00:28:16.440 --> 00:28:20.440
If you're not having fun playing music, that's the wrong

563
00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:26.160
career because most of it sucks. It's it's the music

564
00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:27.599
part that's supposed to be fun.

565
00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:30.400
If you're not having fun with that, like, where are

566
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:30.880
you're going?

567
00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:33.720
It's like when you played football when you were a kid, right,

568
00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:35.960
You practiced three nights a week, beating the hell out

569
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:38.640
of yourself so you could play a game on Sunday, you.

570
00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:39.440
Know, exactly.

571
00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:43.000
With Metalfest, we were there. We loaded in at twelve thirty.

572
00:28:43.160 --> 00:28:44.039
Our set was at.

573
00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:50.599
Six point fifteen. That's just the way it goes sometimes.

574
00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:53.480
No doubt, no doubt and the stress that goes along

575
00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:57.200
with it too. And you know, and we can tell

576
00:28:57.240 --> 00:29:00.000
if you're not having fun to oh yeah, the listeners

577
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:04.240
can tell, you know. And if you're just dialing in, man,

578
00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:06.880
why are you in this industry? That's what I think,

579
00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:09.680
you know. I remember I was serious about gaining in

580
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:12.160
the industry, but I was it was wrong time of

581
00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:15.720
life for metal because they were converting all these bands

582
00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:18.799
I knew into hair metal bands. I was watching the

583
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:22.799
record labels backstage saying, Okay, you're gonna play your music

584
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:24.480
like this, now you're gonna dress like this.

585
00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:25.319
I'm like, I'm.

586
00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:30.119
Out fuck this, Like, oh yeah, why be in music,

587
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:32.720
if you're not doing what you absolutely love and have

588
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:35.480
passion for and just doing it as a.

589
00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:38.519
Job, well that's why we're that's why we're still here.

590
00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:41.599
I mean we I'd be lying to you if I

591
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:44.039
told you I didn't turn down to three sixty deals

592
00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:46.440
and the bullshit deals and stuff like that. I just

593
00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:49.039
I was blessed to have the right people around me

594
00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:52.640
and I knew who to ask questions and it was like, yeah, no, man,

595
00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:54.680
you don't want to mess with none of that stuff.

596
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:56.599
See that's key too.

597
00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:59.880
I think a lot of people don't realize that because, like, yeah,

598
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.000
go on back to the eighties, the record labels were

599
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:05.920
the ones giving the artists all the drugs and alcohol

600
00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:08.000
and women and debauchery.

601
00:30:08.079 --> 00:30:09.880
Because while while.

602
00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:13.599
You were like out of your mind, they were taking

603
00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:15.720
all your money yep, you.

604
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:18.079
Know, and then when it was all done, they told

605
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:20.240
you how much you owed them for going on tour

606
00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:22.799
exactly exactly.

607
00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:24.640
Oh my god, Like.

608
00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:29.000
I definitely you're flashing me back to a lot of

609
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:32.640
stories of friends of mine and what they went through,

610
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:38.119
and you know, like it's funny because you take somebody

611
00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:40.880
like Metallica and that's where they they were kind of

612
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:44.880
smart because they got past that part. They left LA

613
00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:49.680
to get away from that, you know. And it is

614
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:52.880
pretty funny though, because I am originally a Jersey boy,

615
00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:57.400
but my dad nineteen eighty comes up to me, I

616
00:30:57.480 --> 00:31:01.920
was twelve, things like pack We're moving to California in

617
00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:05.880
three days, and so like, I thought it sucked when

618
00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:08.640
he said that. Now looking back, well that was great

619
00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:10.759
with a perfect time to end up at the Sunset

620
00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:15.119
Strip and that whole area. And then I went back

621
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:18.960
to Jersey for college, and I kind of laughed because, like,

622
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:22.400
so I was at Metallica's first show ever. And then

623
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:24.839
when they left LA, me and my bro used to

624
00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:28.599
hitchhike up to the Bay Area. You catch them up there.

625
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:31.599
And so then I go back to Jersey. And where

626
00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:34.400
am I in Jersey? I'm in Old Bridge is where

627
00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:36.559
I'm living, the Old Bridge Militia.

628
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:37.359
Yeah, and.

629
00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:43.279
My friends there all loved to say.

630
00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:45.319
That Metallica was from New Jersey, and I used to

631
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:49.240
say to them, yeah, after they were from the Bay Area,

632
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:51.799
after they were from LA, Like.

633
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:53.440
It's so funny.

634
00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:56.680
If you go to those three places, they all claim

635
00:31:56.799 --> 00:31:59.079
that that's where Metallica originated.

636
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:02.759
Well, yeah, and the irony and all that is I was.

637
00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:05.519
I was fortunate enough to talk to Chris, the head

638
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:08.519
of the Old Bridge Militia before he passed a few years.

639
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:09.960
Back, and I was sitting at the bar one night.

640
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:14.000
We're watching the Classic Car Auction and we're talking about

641
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:17.079
that era and Johnny Z and what he did bringing

642
00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:20.039
Metallica out and everything, and he's like, dude, the think

643
00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:22.680
people don't realize his Metallica was only here for like

644
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:24.599
six to nine months.

645
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:25.480
Right, and they were gone.

646
00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:29.000
He's like, exactly dominated Jersey for six seven months and

647
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:30.000
then boom they were.

648
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:34.640
Gone, which is amazing because the one that you think

649
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:37.799
you would lay claim to would be Anthrax since they're

650
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:39.319
actually from New York.

651
00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:43.839
But it was. It was like a very.

652
00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:47.880
Interesting scenario, the whole Old Bridge Militia thing, and like

653
00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:52.640
who would have thought and hunk of bunkers and english

654
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:57.079
Town like I would never thought of, like, oh, English

655
00:32:57.119 --> 00:32:58.559
Town is the place for metal.

656
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:03.000
That's funny that that you were there. So that's where

657
00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:07.000
Cemetery actually started. I was in Hillsboro, New Jersey back

658
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:10.319
ten years ago when we started the band, and the

659
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:13.160
first couple of places we played where Dingbat's up in

660
00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:16.240
Clifton Bright and bar Down in Long Branch.

661
00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:20.640
I lived in Ocean Township, not to Stone.

662
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:23.880
What was the little one in Asbury Park with Stone.

663
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:26.400
Pony got the Stone Pony, But there is another one

664
00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:27.480
I can't remember the name.

665
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:29.799
It was like the cellar something like that.

666
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:31.160
Yeah, I can't remember.

667
00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:33.640
The st quick Down.

668
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:36.920
Used to play there all the time.

669
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:38.359
Yeah, yep, you got it.

670
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:44.440
So so we actually the first CD was supported by

671
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:45.519
the Old Bridge Militia.

672
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:47.680
One of the guys from down there picked it up.

673
00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:50.079
He sent it out to a DJ that's on the

674
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:52.400
air at a college station in Lincoln, SIA.

675
00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:54.599
Oh, it's been on SU.

676
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:55.160
Yeah.

677
00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:59.119
We actually interviewed up at SLU back in twenty eighteen.

678
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:01.000
Nice and then.

679
00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:03.799
Yeah, so they were really supportive of us early on.

680
00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:05.599
So it's pretty cool that you were tied up with

681
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:06.279
them too there.

682
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:10.519
Yeah, it's it is kind of wild, like I think

683
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:13.679
about in the different scenes I was in, and like,

684
00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:18.639
it's so wild. It's almost like then was a cultish time. Yeah,

685
00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:23.239
much less and much more so than now. Wow, Like listen,

686
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:27.719
we didn't listen to any metal if it was played

687
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:28.400
on the radio.

688
00:34:28.519 --> 00:34:30.440
Besides something like so ou.

689
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:33.760
Right sou was okay, you know, but if it was

690
00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:37.039
played on like PLJ or some shit like that.

691
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:39.199
Nope, I'm out.

692
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:43.800
And now you got like bands like Laurna Shure that

693
00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:46.800
are like rising in the pop charts.

694
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:49.960
Yeah, and I'm like, wow, it's wild.

695
00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:52.920
It's definitely an interesting time, right.

696
00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:56.920
You know they say Metals dead, I don't know. I

697
00:34:57.000 --> 00:34:59.719
go to these festivals where there's over one hundred thousand people.

698
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:00.960
I think it's dead at all.

699
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:03.719
I think that's what they want you to believe. I

700
00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:05.239
think you've got a lot of We've seen a lot

701
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:07.280
of stuff, you know, coming back. I mean I even

702
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:10.880
saw a post the other day Timmy McMurtry and Billy

703
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:14.000
Mulano from Memo D finally buried the hatchet and they're

704
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:18.360
you know, uh, stopping their feud and talking about like

705
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:20.079
doing stuff together and things.

706
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:22.199
Wow, if you're talking a lot of.

707
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:25.599
I've seen so many of the older heads getting active

708
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:28.760
again and working problems out with each other and just

709
00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:30.880
doing the right thing for the music.

710
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:35.960
Finally, and you're older, so you're not as much of

711
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:37.480
an asshole as when you're younger.

712
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:40.119
Yeah, you sooner or lady, you gotta calm down right.

713
00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:44.559
Uh, exactly, but I do know that, Like I was

714
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:47.079
really bummed out last year one of the festivals I

715
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:50.039
do was going to have s O D but it

716
00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:53.320
was tribute to so OD but Wes scott Ian, it

717
00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:57.679
was Jamie Josta was going to sing okay, and then

718
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:00.920
it was Scott's son playing drums.

719
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:05.800
Which he's really really good. And who was it on guitar?

720
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:07.280
Was it Demo?

721
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:10.199
I don't, I can't remember who it was on guitar

722
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:14.239
and uh, and it was like I was so excited

723
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:17.360
and then it got squashed because Billy Milano was like, nope,

724
00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:20.960
you got Yeah, he didn't. I guess he didn't squash

725
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:21.760
with Scotty.

726
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:22.840
And yet.

727
00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:29.360
Because he's making their rounds, he'll knocked on Scotty's door next.

728
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:31.960
I know, right, because he did say some ship last

729
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:33.920
year and then all of a sudden it just didn't happen.

730
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:38.079
But yeah, I tell you what though. It was funny.

731
00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:41.360
I was covering Grass Pop a few years ago.

732
00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:48.519
And so mister Bungle played Okay, and so they do

733
00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:51.480
a cover of Speak English or Die, but they don't

734
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:55.039
say English. Okay, So like in the States, I saw

735
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:57.800
them play and they were like speak Spanish or Die

736
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:03.039
and then there they called it speak Flemish or die

737
00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:07.039
because that little part of Belgium where that festival is,

738
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:11.840
that's their language. Okay, you know there's like three languages

739
00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:14.679
in Belgium, but that one is just for that. Like

740
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:18.199
imagine if you had your own language for reading.

741
00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:21.360
Right right, That's what it was, like what you kind

742
00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:21.679
of do.

743
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:25.679
Not Well, that's true, that's true.

744
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:29.639
It's like I can pick where what part of Jersey,

745
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:32.960
what town somebody is from in Jersey? Oh, yeah, you know,

746
00:37:33.199 --> 00:37:36.440
but by listening to them, and of course every borough

747
00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:38.760
of New York, you can tell the difference. You know,

748
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:40.840
people down here in Florida if they think we all

749
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:43.920
sound the same. But it's the same thing as anything

750
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:47.400
like yeah, I could tell in that whole dri state area,

751
00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:51.000
Oh you're from here, and how do you know? They

752
00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:54.320
obviously know how you know because you're from that area, right.

753
00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:58.599
Right, So how do people reach out to you guys?

754
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:01.679
Check out the new music, check out the lyric video,

755
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:05.039
and uh, you know everything else.

756
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:08.440
Yes, So basically you could pop pop in the band

757
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:11.320
name just as it's spelled symmetria s y m E

758
00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:14.880
t ri I A into wherever you search your music.

759
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:15.559
And we'll come up.

760
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:19.440
We're on Apple Music, We're on Spotify, we stream on Title,

761
00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:21.599
we stream on Deezer YouTube Music.

762
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:25.760
We have a YouTube channel that has various concert.

763
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:28.400
Videos, live footage as well as the lyric video for

764
00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:31.920
the game is up there. You can check it out there.

765
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:36.039
Our Facebook page you could find on Facebook Symmetria band

766
00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:39.119
and you can follow us there. And we're in the

767
00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:42.159
process of getting a website launched because after ten years,

768
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:42.920
I guess it's time.

769
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:46.320
It might be time. It might be time, just in

770
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:48.519
time for people to not use websites.

771
00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:50.639
Yeah, where we're going.

772
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:53.360
Actually, it'll be nice to be able to get merch

773
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:55.639
out to people on a broader scale.

774
00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:57.320
That'll be one of the biggest tools for it.

775
00:38:57.360 --> 00:38:59.320
And it gives me a spot to park the ePK,

776
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:02.760
and that was hoping to grow and continue on at

777
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:05.559
least at festivals and get on tour once or twice

778
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:06.840
here in the next coming years.

779
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:10.320
Having that ePK online will be a big tal help nice.

780
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:12.840
And so if a video game was gonna use your

781
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:15.400
song in the game, which which video game would you

782
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:16.039
want it to be.

783
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:19.440
That's a question for Matt because I haven't played video

784
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:21.159
games in thirty years.

785
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:25.559
So you so you're saying the song the game, what

786
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:26.960
game would it be part of?

787
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:29.440
What game would you want to be part of?

788
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:34.639
Yeah, I'm gonna say Doom. Any of the Doom games?

789
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:37.719
Nice because you know that has like a very like

790
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:41.360
Metallica kind of feel like that, like that just sort

791
00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:44.159
of upbeats stuff. But I don't know if to me

792
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:45.960
the game it like it gives sort of like a

793
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:48.599
drive like hey, we got to start a revolution. Let's

794
00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:49.239
fuck shut up?

795
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:52.719
You know, hell, here you go and see, Like I

796
00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:55.639
asked that question because like with the name, like the game,

797
00:39:55.719 --> 00:39:58.639
it should be part of a video game, just saying, hey.

798
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:01.760
Our bank, he counts more than willing to receive checks

799
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:03.480
and sign these documents.

800
00:40:03.559 --> 00:40:04.519
Right exactly?

801
00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:09.559
So, what what do you think Matt has brought to

802
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:10.159
the table?

803
00:40:11.320 --> 00:40:16.960
Honestly, here's an idea, right, here's here's the best way

804
00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:19.880
to describe what Matt's brought the table. The last practice

805
00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:22.559
before the show, we were jamming after we ran the set.

806
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:24.639
And you know, we're other than Matt.

807
00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:27.639
We're all in our forties and fifties, so we're a

808
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:30.800
bunch of old heads. So Mike starts playing Ami Evil

809
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:34.920
Giant Brian jumps in Kevin's going along and Matt never

810
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:37.719
came in, and I looked at Mike and I went, oh,

811
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:39.719
my god, we got a drummer young enough that he

812
00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:40.559
doesn't know that.

813
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:43.280
Doesn't this song. He doesn't know this song.

814
00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:46.880
You might have to have Laurs play it.

815
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:50.239
But you know, at the same time, he's brought so

816
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:53.880
much stuff just in screwing around at practice that we've

817
00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:56.960
never imagined being able to add to our music already

818
00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:58.840
that I can't wait to see what writ.

819
00:40:58.719 --> 00:40:59.920
And continues to bring with it.

820
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:03.159
You know, he's he's got a different ear, he's got

821
00:41:03.159 --> 00:41:06.880
a different mindset of course, and at the same time

822
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:09.039
he's as big as Alice Cooper fan as I am.

823
00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:11.199
So it's a really.

824
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:16.440
Cool element to have somebody with his younger musical taste

825
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:19.360
and experience and different feel for things to come in

826
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:22.119
and still be as connected to at least I am

827
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:24.480
with some of the older music and stuff that you know,

828
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:28.559
I grew up listening to my father's records of Alice Cooper,

829
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:34.360
you know, billion Dollar Babies, Welcome to My Nightmare.

830
00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:37.760
And stuff, so too, it's it's awesome.

831
00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:45.119
Yeah, and see, I think that in my opinion, that's Also,

832
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:49.079
what Matt brings to the table is it is twenty

833
00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:53.280
twenty six, So I think you kind of need both

834
00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:57.159
the older view and the younger view to be relevant.

835
00:41:57.559 --> 00:42:00.360
Absolutely, and I think it adds lot.

836
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:02.880
It says a lot about us as musicians and our

837
00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:05.800
ability to stay current. I mean, yeah, you know, and

838
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:08.519
it was there was no hesitation like I've played with

839
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:10.079
guys that would have been like how old is he?

840
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:10.840
Always too young.

841
00:42:11.519 --> 00:42:13.119
I don't even think we asked him how old he

842
00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:15.559
was till a second or third practice he came in,

843
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:17.280
had the chops and started jamming.

844
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:19.559
Man, it's it's music, that's what it's about.

845
00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:20.920
That's key.

846
00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:25.480
It's like Ty, you know, Robert's son playing with Suicidal now,

847
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:31.760
Like he's so young, but man, he just makes sense, yeah,

848
00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:35.440
you know, and brings that younger feel to it. And

849
00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:38.400
Mike still has like the energy of a youth and

850
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:41.480
you know, so you need to have somebody young to

851
00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:42.639
keep up with him.

852
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:45.880
Yeah, And if you're gonna try to be a current band,

853
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:48.719
like you don't go out and find another fifty five

854
00:42:48.800 --> 00:42:50.800
year old drummer to sit in behind the kit if

855
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:52.880
you want to keep going for another twenty years, not

856
00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:55.559
when you've got somebody that's young.

857
00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:58.239
Powerful and enthusiastic and wants to come and play.

858
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:01.880
I gotta tell you to your point, I'm fifty nine,

859
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:07.800
and I couldn't imagine touring playing drums, right. I think

860
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:11.599
any other like guitar, singing, whatever's got to be easier

861
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:16.039
at this age. But yes, if you're playing some like

862
00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:21.119
Beatles music, maybe you know, but.

863
00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:24.039
But not playing metal like that.

864
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:24.199
You.

865
00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:27.679
I'm in amazement at some of the drummers that they can,

866
00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:33.639
you know, even keep up without dying, because I don't

867
00:43:33.679 --> 00:43:36.519
think people realize how much brutal work it is to

868
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:37.679
be a metal drummer.

869
00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:43.280
You have to shape, you have to be a good shape.

870
00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:46.800
Well I'm not in great shape, but I'm working on that.

871
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:49.400
You're a great shape for drumming.

872
00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:54.719
We'll keep you busy, we'll sweat you into shape.

873
00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:55.679
You know.

874
00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:57.320
It was after I don't know, it was like our

875
00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:01.760
my second or third show, and it was at like

876
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:05.079
this little dive bar or something, and after the show,

877
00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:07.000
like my I had like a gray shirt on and

878
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:11.719
it was just black like with sweat afterwards, and Brian,

879
00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:14.639
his wife, was like, Matt, get a different shirt.

880
00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:15.480
It's cold outside.

881
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:19.000
You're gonna get sick, like from the merch table and

882
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:19.320
all that.

883
00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:27.440
Yeah, oh my god, I love it because you brought

884
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:29.239
me back to a Slayer show.

885
00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:32.000
I was at at Lamor's in the middle of winter, yeah,

886
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:35.480
and I was sweating from head to toe and walked outside.

887
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:38.599
I didn't feel it for like fifteen minutes, but it

888
00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:41.400
was I don't know, it's like zero out or something

889
00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:44.199
like that, and I was like dripping wet.

890
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:47.559
And yeah, I was very grateful for that for the

891
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:50.400
drive back because oh yeah, you know, even with the heat,

892
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:52.719
it was still like, oh yeah, I can feel every

893
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:53.960
inch of my skin.

894
00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:57.599
Right, and it once it's clammy, forget it.

895
00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:01.639
Now, you just cold exactly. I don't.

896
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:04.679
That's an every thing too, being a drummer in the

897
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:08.519
different weather, like, you know, even the fact of playing

898
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:11.880
here in South Florida as a drummer, Jesus Christ with

899
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:14.920
it being feels like one hundred and nine, how are

900
00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:15.519
you drumming?

901
00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:17.559
You know?

902
00:45:18.119 --> 00:45:21.199
And that humidity, I'm like, oh my god. Like even

903
00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:26.119
there's some bands I've interviewed down here or at like Rockville,

904
00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:28.760
and I'm like, how do you even dress like that?

905
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:30.000
On stage? Man?

906
00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:34.519
You know, like I moved down here, and I'm permanently

907
00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:39.000
I have. I have two pairs and two types of shorts,

908
00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:43.119
my summer shorts and my winter shorts. The winter shorts

909
00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:46.400
are a little longer and a little thicker. Okay, that's

910
00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:49.800
the extent of my winter down here.

911
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:54.280
So I can't even imagine.

912
00:45:54.719 --> 00:45:58.199
Yeah, I can't even imagine performing anything on stage down here.

913
00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:01.119
I have a hard enough time doing rest with that weather,

914
00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:03.519
you know, it's like, but geting up on stage and

915
00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:06.000
giving all you got. See, these are things I like

916
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:09.159
to point out so listeners that don't they realize that

917
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:13.440
there's a lot that you guys put into a live show.

918
00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:17.280
You're not just having fun. Are you having fun? Yes,

919
00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:20.800
you're having fun, But there's a lot of effort and

920
00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:23.599
sacrifice and work that goes into that. And I think

921
00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:26.440
everybody needs to know that. It's not like, oh, look

922
00:46:26.440 --> 00:46:28.719
at them, they got lucky and look at they got

923
00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:31.679
a dream job. Yeah, I'd like to see most of

924
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:34.440
those people say that, do what you guys do.

925
00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:38.920
To be honest, Well, thank you, Yeah, it's yeah, I

926
00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:39.280
mean it.

927
00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:40.360
It.

928
00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:46.880
It does like mad respect, you know, and even the

929
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:50.119
fact of doing festivals. Okay, so you guys know about

930
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:53.079
like festival flu and I get it all the time.

931
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:56.360
You're breathing in that dusta I always wonder how artists

932
00:46:56.400 --> 00:47:00.280
are up there playing, especially singers and singing while that

933
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:03.119
dust is going in your throat, because I get that

934
00:47:03.159 --> 00:47:06.199
while I'm doing interviews and like I lose my voice

935
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:10.199
first day, you know, I'm doing interviews and I can't

936
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:13.119
breathe and my nose and stuffed up. I'm like, man

937
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:18.480
mad respect for singers going out in this environment, you know,

938
00:47:18.519 --> 00:47:20.239
and you got the moshpit right in front of you,

939
00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:23.559
so that the dust is going right in your mouth.

940
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:27.239
Well I haven't gotten this.

941
00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:29.400
I haven't gotten experienced that yet, but I'll have to

942
00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:30.559
be on the lookout for it.

943
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:32.480
Oh there you go. There you go.

944
00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:34.119
Well, I have to get you on some of the

945
00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:35.599
DWP festivals.

946
00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:37.039
See there, do that.

947
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:38.159
Yeah, that's what I'm doing.

948
00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:40.480
That's that's one of my goals right now, because I

949
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:42.320
go to the Sonic Temple every year and I say,

950
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:44.039
you know what, we gotta get we gotta we gotta

951
00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:46.440
like that's a goal, like play any of the stages there.

952
00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:51.119
Yeah, yeah, I do Sonic every year. A couple of

953
00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:54.960
weeks I'll be at Ink incarceration. That's a cool that's

954
00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:58.800
a cool festival because that's at the Shawshank Prison.

955
00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:00.800
Oh that's awesome.

956
00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:02.760
Yeah, it's it's badass.

957
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:06.199
Like my daughter will always go She's like, so you're

958
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:10.079
excited about this festival. I'm like, well, I love doing it.

959
00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:11.519
I don't know if it's say it's the right word

960
00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:13.920
when you're doing it every weekend. But then the first

961
00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:16.360
time I did that festival, I called her up. I'm like,

962
00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:20.880
now I'm excited. I'm calling you from the prison yard

963
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:24.559
of Shawshank and that is cool, right, And then I'm

964
00:48:24.599 --> 00:48:25.760
like I'm taking.

965
00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:27.719
Pictures, like before the festival starts, like.

966
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:30.320
In the morning, there's this other band member taking pictures

967
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:32.679
and it's like, hey, can you take my picture and

968
00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:35.599
I'll take yours. He goes, look at us, we're fanboying

969
00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:42.039
out on Shawshank Prison. So yeah, let's get you to

970
00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:43.239
those festivals.

971
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:45.199
It sounds good to me, man, I'd love it.

972
00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:49.239
There you go, Well, anything else you want to add

973
00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:52.320
that The listeners need to know that we haven't covered already.

974
00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:54.639
No, I think we back covered it, man.

975
00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:57.519
Hopefully they, like I said, look us up wherever you

976
00:48:57.559 --> 00:48:59.320
look for music and give us a fall.

977
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:01.480
Check it out and hopefully we'll see you live.

978
00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:08.199
Absolutely well, you guys keep rocking, and Matt you keep

979
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:09.480
those old dudes in line.

980
00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:11.239
I'll do my best.

981
00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:17.760
And there it is, and and so you better make

982
00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:18.960
sure you're on time.

983
00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:22.199
Because I said, hey, I need a click, and then

984
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:23.639
Vince was like, no, no, you don't.

985
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:27.920
You're good. That's great.

986
00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:31.119
You were instantly tighter when he came in, so he

987
00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:31.800
is our click.

988
00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:36.599
I love it. Well, that's amazing. Your music's amazing. Thanks

989
00:49:36.599 --> 00:49:38.800
for still making music, and thanks for being on the

990
00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:39.840
Adventures of pipe Man.

991
00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:42.320
Hey, as long as there's people there to listen, we'll

992
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:44.400
make it. So thank you very much for having us man,

993
00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:46.679
you got it, take it easy.

994
00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:51.760
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of pate Man.

995
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:55.719
I'm w for CUI Radio.