PipemanRadio discusses with Budderside new single, new album, Louder Than Life, Aftershock

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four c Y Radio. And I'm
very excited about our next guest because he's

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a cool ass fucking rocker and from
a cool ass fucking band just to be

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blunt, and they have a great
single out. It ain't all right,

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but it is badass. So welcome
to his show. Patrick from Butterside,

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How are you night man? Thanks, is so good to see you again.

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Last time I saw he was at
Rockville. What an epic day,

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What an epic start to the day
with you that day. And we're still

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using that photograph you took for our
pr So thanks for a million things.

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I love it, I love it, and you're going to be at two

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of my favorite festivals this year,
Louder and Aftershock. Yeah, and I'll

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tell you why I'm really excited about
both those festivals. Is number one,

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Butterside's playing there, and then just
as an afterthought, so is Slayer.

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Yeah right. You know what's funny
is the last time we played with Slayer,

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before we did the Motor Boat crews
Lemmy invited us to be a part

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of that, and Slayer played the
same like two slots after us. It's

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insane. Wow. Yeah, so
it's a reunion of sorts. I know,

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right, Okay, you're ready for
this. This will blow your mind.

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How was that Slayer's first show ever? No way? Yeah, of

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course, I know, right,
I've seen them like a million times and

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you know what, a few more
times this year. It is still not

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enough. So you were at their
first show ever? Uh huh? Wow?

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So was there just like a crazy
pit? Like what was the vibe?

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It? Well, it's crazy,
but it was la and there was

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nothing really like it except them in
Metallica, which is why they went to

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the Bay Area, and it was
you know, everything was starting to go

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towards the hair metal stuff and you
know, Motley Crue was the heaviest thing

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out there till Slayer and Metallica got
there, right, and then Motley Crue

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went totally in the other direction because
they were kind of heavy in the beginning,

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you know. And then but here's
an interesting story though, when Slayer

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went up to the Bay Area,
they actually were you know, the other

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Bay Area bands were giving them crap
because they wore eyeliner, you know,

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to look evil down in LA,
you know, and the way the Bay

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Area Thrash looked at is you're just
another one of those glam hair metal bands.

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That's so interesting. I would have
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the last thing that they'd go to
the grave without wearing makeup, you know,

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that's the kind of Yeah, they
wore like the dark eyeliner so they

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could look evil, almost like the
King Diamond kind of looking, remembering Mickey

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d was in that from the beginning, you know, yeah, yeah,

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hell yeah. That It was so
wild because then in LA we thought we

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were cool to begin with, and
then when Slayer Metallica left, they left

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us with nobody. And then I
went up to Bay Area, I'm like,

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oh my god, this is where
it's cool, right right at estimate

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Exodus Slayer. All of them were
thrashing around up there, right, yeah,

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yeah, yeah. That was a
believa club for metal, like it

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was. San Francisco was the spot
I was. I was up there,

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and I grew up up there,
so that was like where we would go,

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and that was really the whole vibe
was all about being super heavy.

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I remember my first day coming into
high school. There were a couple of

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sophomores or maybe they were juniors,
and they had these, uh you know,

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the denim jackets on with the leather
leather vest over and they had Slayer

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patches and Testament patches and Exodus patches, and you know, I walk in

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and like, you know, I
was I don't know what kind of look

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I was repping, to be honest, but I was. I had a

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walkman in my hand, and the
first thing they did was they grabbed me

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by my by my jacket and they
threw me up against the up against the

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locker, and I was like,
gosh, I'm laughing if I could remember

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this, even though I wasn't there, I've seen in a million, but

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they wanted to. They wanted to
accuse me of being a poser. And

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then they opened up my uh,
my Walkman and Ride the Lightning was in

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there, and they were like,
fine, Okay, that's how it was

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too. I have my vest just
in the other room too, that like

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I could never wear today, but
it's there. Wasn't even when I had

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my vessel, there wasn't even a
Slayer back patch yet. So I just

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took like felt lettering and put Slayer
and a big Metallica jump in the fire

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back patch and I had drawings.
I have drawings all over it that I

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drew of all these bands that didn't
have patches, stuff well with pan with

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magic marker, like some of it
artistic, some of it not so much,

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you know, and like bands like
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I just drew their stuff on my
on my vest. And then I had

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one thing on one pocket it said
posers will die. So to your point,

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I remember too going to shows at
LA and if somebody wore a Motley

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Cruz shirt to the shut into a
Slayer show, they would get it the

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shirt ripped off their back. It
would get thrown up to Tom and he

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would burn it on stage. Right. Yeah, the genres were the genres

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were very separated, you know.
It was such a. It was such

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a bullshit to be honest, Like, I just saw this thing on YouTube.

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Sebastian Bach was getting interviewed back in
the day and they compared him to

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poison and he got so pissed he
threw the mic at the guy and left

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the interview. You know, It's
like God, and now it's like we're

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so happily lumped into one big thing, especially with these festivals like Danny Wimmer's

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festivals, you know, Motley Crue, Corn Slayer. It's like we're all

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one big, happy family finally.
That's why it feels like rock is like

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definitely on its biggest wave ever coming
in. Yeah, and thank God for

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people like Danny Wimmer for that,
because that gate Caper shit was bull shit,

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to be honest. I lived it. I hated it, and it

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was stupid. And like I liked
punk too, I couldn't go to a

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punk show, yeah, because I
was a long hair. So if you

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were a long hair and you went
to a punk show, you got your

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ass beat and vice versa. Right, and it's like we were both getting

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her ass beat by the jocks at
school band together idiots. Yeah, Yeah,

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that was kind of the coolest thing. About Lem right, Lim had

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long hair, but he was punk
rock, you know exactly. And then

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he's dating Wendy Oh Williams, So
that brought it all together, you know,

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right, why don't they do that? Like we need some more?

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Well, I guess we do kind
of have it right, even the men

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of Skin Chick. She's wearing like
bikinis out on its just like I don't

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know if that whole rock and roll
latitude is just my favorite thing in existence,

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you know, it's what it's what
makes everything move, you know,

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no doubt, And that's what it
is. It's an attitude. It's a

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family. You know. You go
to a festival like the Danny Wimmer festivals

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and man, we're just one big
family. There are no outsiders. We're

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all inside outsiders, you know type, and it's just it doesn't matter.

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Like I love that about today,
and I love that about music today because

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a band or an artist like you
can go out there and make whatever music

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you like instead of being told what
to make or you know, having people

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say, oh, you're selling out, like and I did it too,

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Like listen Metallica's Black album. It
was at their first show too, and

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I was like, what a bunch
of sellouts now, but I came back

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to it. But it's that stupid
attitude, like, wouldn't that be a

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better thing that your favorite artist could
make it so they could keep playing and

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so that you could keep enjoying it, and so that we could all be

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one big family with some great music. Yeah, I'd be very happy with

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that level of success, right exactly, you know, And you know what

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I mean. They haven't sold out. They're actually you know, fuck,

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they're still out there crushing it.
Oh, it's unbelievable, unbelievable. You

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know, they just headlined Hellfest again, you know. And so tell us

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a little bit about this new song, because I dig it and it has

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some great meaning to it. Everybody
catches their own meaning two songs, I

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suppose, and that's kind of thee
And usually I have a serious like there's

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usually something that I'm really heavily emotionally
connected to in order to create lyrics.

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This was I think the last song
we worked on. During the second phase

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of the recording process. We would
go out and see Matt goodar producer for

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four songs at a time. So
we did three three different sessions which were

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about four to five days each and
we would bust out four songs, whether

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we'd written something before or not.
And this one kind of came together last

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minute, I think, on the
final day of recording. And you know,

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I've always just been fascinated with you
know, vampires and werewolves and you

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know, monsters and all that stuff, and you know, I didn't I

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didn't really want to incorporate that in
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So I just saying really about like
stuff that really fascinated me. And as

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I started to do that, I
found this beautiful you know, in the

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poetry that started coming to mind.
There was just this real balance of how

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there's always something good, bring something
bad, or there's there's always just kind

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of this crazy fountain song turned out
to be really about the catch twenty two's

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of life. How you know,
if you're loving someone you're actually killing them,

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or you know, maybe if you're
killing someone you're actually showing them love.

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In some cases, it's always about
perspective and how you look at things,

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which really define, you know,
your opinion of things, and then

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it's always an opinion. Somebody else
can have another one on something. So

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and I also want to do something
that was really based in the Day of

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the Dead, you know, the
whole that whole lore. So so that's

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really where the lyrics kind of formed, you know, And I love everything

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you're saying because I'm all about it's
all perspective, and I think that everybody

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around the world, especially in our
country, needs to be reminded of that.

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Yeah, because it's like we can't
seem to human beings, can't seem

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to understand somebody else's and can have
a different point of view from different variables

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in life, whether it be where
they live, where they grew up,

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how they were brought up, what
they're exposed to, what their businesses,

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what their work is, you know, anything like that. And like I

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think, to me, that's the
day to the Dead. All these people

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walking around like zombies, like,
you know, divided, not understanding what

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the other person is going through and
maybe having a little empathy for each other

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instead of attacking each other. Yeah, you know, death is a celebration.

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I've lost so many people now it's
like you have to I mean,

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I lost my best friend at the
top of this year, and it was

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the first time that I finally was
just kind of like, you know what,

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I really have to celebrate this person. I don't have time to slow

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down anymore and really just be woe
is me or upset because I know that

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that person lived their life to the
fullest. So you know, the song

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definitely takes a look at that.
It's like, you know, dying is

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being born, and you know,
loving somebody could you know, you could

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be trying so hard to love somebody
but they feel like you hate them,

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or you know, sometimes you don't
even think that you're trying at all to

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love somebody, and they can feel
like you showed them the most gracious amount

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of you know, of generosity they've
ever seen. So it's interesting, you

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know, it's interesting what you just
brought up to because my best bro of

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life, who was like a brother
to Maceon's thirteen years old. His parents

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were like parents and to me and
my parent my dad was like parent to

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him, and he lit ran away
from home, lived with me, and

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we went to millions of shows together. I was at Louder than Life last

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year and I got a phone call
after the first night and he passed in

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September, so and then tomorrow being
the fourth of July. His brother who's

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like a little brother to me,
built this tiki bar in his name at

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his house and is having like,
you know, a launch of it tomorrow.

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So tomorrow morning, I'm homping on
a plane to la just to go

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for that in honor of my fallen
brother. So's it's interesting that you brought

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it up in the timing there.
Yeah, well hit me up while you're

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here, man, I'd love to
hang Now. I'll be in Pacific Palisades.

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I'll only be there for like a
day this time, but I always

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go back, so I might be
back in mid July too, so we'll

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see what happened. But and then
speaking in July, well almost, Well,

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now we're a week away July and
tenth. You got that thing behind

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me dropping white? Yeah, yes, yeah, we've never been so excited

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like the last Again, like I
said, we did it kind of in

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pieces. So the last four songs
just got done last month, and then

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we had this deal pop up with
a label in Japan who kind of forced

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this deadline, which is always the
best way to creative, you know,

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you you know, you get a
diamond out of the coal. You know,

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you just got to keep pressing it
as hard as you can. So

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the last four songs these ones that
nobody's heard yet I think are our best

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yet. So nice, it's going
to be interesting to let them all out

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at the same time. It's just
that we're we couldn't be more proud or

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excited about something, and it's really
cool to see guys like you and our

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other friends jumping on board with that. Well, I love it, And

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uh yeah, why don't you tell
everybody how they can connect to you guys

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on socials, on the web,
how they can check out ain't it ain't

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all right? And they can get
the new album White Flame, and check

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out all your tour dates and buy
your merch and all that good stuff.

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Well, the beauty about having the
craziest name in the business is if you

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spell it right, like it's spelled
right right there. If you spell it

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that way, you can only find
us because nobody else is crazy enough to

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call themselves that. So b U
D D E R S I D E.

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All of our socials, our website, our Spotify, everything, every

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social platform, every platform. If
you if you search for us, you

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will find us if you spell it
right, and they should spell it how's

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it spell it, how it sounds? So anything else that we want total

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listeners about that we haven't covered yet. We have a we have a tour

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coming up with the sixty nine Eyes
in October to Mexico, and there's Louder

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than Life after Shock, and then
there's probably a tour to Japan coming up

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soon thanks to the Avalon Marquee label
that we're doing some stuff with now.

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So a lot of stuff happening.
We have a listening party if you're in

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Los Angeles next week on the tenth. The Bourbon Room will be there with

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Butterside doing some acoustic stuff and then
a listening party with some of our friends

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from the Hollywood Vampires and Vixen and
all types of crazy characters will be there,

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so drop on by if you're around. Very cool. I love it

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well, I love your new music. I love all your music and can't

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wait to see you at the very
least after Shock and Louder than Life and

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then hopefully before. And thanks for
being on the adventures of pipe Man.

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Pipe Man, thank you so much. One question for you, how did

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you get the name pipe Man?
So funny? I always get that question.

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It's great. It's great that a
lot of artists and bands asked that

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question, considering the most hated question
is how to get your band name right?

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And and then I didn't return the
favor right. And then so my

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last name is Piper. So it
was like an old nickname from when I

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was younger that got revised like Risen
back up for the radio and it is.

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It is great because really every artist
wonders where that comes from, and

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they all are wrong if they guess. Yeah, I had some pretty weird

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guesses right, and especially especially the
California people, they always think it has

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to do it smoking the pipe.
In fact, I had one band write

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a song during the interview about the
pipe man and hitting the pipe and all

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that. I thought, what the
ladies called you, Well, it is

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funny they do now, and you
know, I was just talking about this

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with somebody, and you know how
this goes too. So when I go

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out and I do these festivals,
it's like all the women they want me

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pipe man. But if I introduced
Dean to them, they don't want Dean.

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They want pipe Man. They want
the radio personality, the podcaster and

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that name and all that. And
you know, you understand it's the same,

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you know, for you it's like
you never really know if these women

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want you because you're a musician,
or if because of you, it's the

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same thing. So it is pretty
funny. And even my kids now will

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call me pipe Man sometimes. It's
pretty funny. They used to call me

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Stoneman in school and then and then
I actually the first bass player of Butterside

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his name we shared the same last
name, no relation, but but he

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ended up taking the name Stoneman,
so that that fell by the side.

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But I would probably be the stone
Man if it was now see we could

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put the similar meaning to it as
pipe man right there. Maybe the pipe

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Man and Stoneman go together. Yeah. Comic book for sure, like The

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New Wolverine and the Deadpool. I
know that one's weird to me and I

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love okay, so I'm one of
those freaks that I love all marvel n

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DC. Okay, Yeah, but
I don't know, it's weird playing Deadpool

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and him together. I'm like trying
cauz. Deadpool is never serious and he's

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always serious. It's like, it's
so weird. But I do want to

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see the movie anyway. Yeah,
gonna do it there. It is all

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right, Well, you rock your
music rocks, Thanks bro, and we'll

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see you again. On the Adventures
of pipe Man. Thank you, thank

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you for listening to the Adventures of
pipe Man on W four c u I Radio M