Nov. 2, 2025
PipemanRadio Interviews AITTALA About Isolation of Ill-Gotten Gains
N.C. Doomers AITTALA Reveal New Music Video “Isolation” Doomed & Stoned Debuts Six full-lengths, two EPs, strong and steady since 2008. Dang. What keeps North Carolina trio AITTALA going? Sheer compulsion for music making is my guess. There’s...
N.C. Doomers AITTALA Reveal New Music Video “Isolation”
Doomed & Stoned Debuts
Six full-lengths, two EPs, strong and steady since 2008. Dang. What keeps North Carolina trio AITTALA going? Sheer compulsion for music making is my guess. There’s nothing like the experience of the real thing, despite the obscene ease and seductive sophistication of AI fakery. To hear and feel heavy music live from their minds and voices and hands of real human beings just like you – well, there’s just nothing like it. Bands with stubborn longevity like Aittala serve as an inspiration to the scene. Pick up an instrument, get to jamming, let your voice be heard.
If this is your first encounter with the band, perhaps “Isolation” is as good an introduction as any. Mysterious strumming, powerful emphatic chords, and wall-shaking disruption clears the path for soulful, soaring guitar soloing and somber Gothic intonations.
The words are relatable to everyone who has felt isolation in the wake of family breakdown, fallen idols, and the loss of true community. We are increasingly siloed into a lonely, virtual existence, housed conveniently in cages of wood and plastic and concrete, subsisting on artificial, processed, and packaged goods churned out by humanless factories. It’s a nightmare that H.G. Wells, Orwell, and Huxley hinted at but could have scarcely envisioned in its nihilistic, nightmarish reality.
Lyrics are stained with regret, lamenting a life devoid of meaning, where technology has eclipsed talent. The machine has been slowly replacing us all for generations, now accelerating humanity into the unknown. With little to believe in and reality on a shakey basis, more and more people are wondering, “What’s the point?” and losing themselves in a soul-crushing death spiral of drugs, alcohol, greed, violence, debauchery, and inevitable madness.
Born with an expiration date
Blessed with the curse you cannot escape
The taste is so bitter sweet
When you learn you’ve become obsolete
Aittala sees clearly in these desperate times, which makes their sound all the more compelling. Witness the gravity and might of “Isolation” now, as Doomed & Stoned brings you its world premiere. It comes from their new EP, “Ill-Gotten Gains’ (2025), available soon on Exitus Stratagem Records
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Hi, you love done to censure for wow for you young.
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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures of
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Pipe Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm here
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with our next guest who has some pure new music
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and what a long history and I love that. So
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let's welcome to the show. Eric from Aler, Thank you,
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thanks for Did I do it right?
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Yeah, you pronounced it right. It's I know, it is difficult,
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it's finish, and so people in America really don't get it.
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So when I'm in Europe, people pronounce it correctly because
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I guess they just see the letters different there. Yeah,
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they're just speaking English right as a second language. They
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get it right.
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There you go. So I want to start off from
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the very beginning. So you started to saying way back
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in the previous century. Yes, and you're American, but you
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started it in the Netherlands, one of my favorite places
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in the world, by the way. And so had that
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come about that American would start a band in the Netherlands.
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Well, because I was in the military a long long
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time ago and I was stationed in the Netherlands. So
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that's how that's why I was there.
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Well, thank you for your service.
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Well I appreciate that years ago.
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Yeah, my son's been in the army for almost twenties,
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like a half a year away from retirement.
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Oh that's awesome.
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Yeah, yeah, And he never went to anotherlands. I'm gonna
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have to tell him, like, hey, idiot, why are you
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getting going to Somalia when you could have been stationed
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in the Netherlands.
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There wasn't a lot of army facilities in the Netherlands.
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There weren't Germany, though, so I'm surprised in twenty years
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he usually did. Oh he did go to Germany.
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Yeah, he was stationed there for three years. And my
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daughter and my daughter herd ex husband when they were married,
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they were in Germany for three years too. That's like that,
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that's the place everybody's got go. But he went to
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Germany a rock Kuwait, South Korea twice, Somalia a couple
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of times because he's sigh up. So they dropped him
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out of a plane and said, we'll see in six
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months and if you get caught, we don't know you.
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Good luck. Well luckily, I mean I was only in
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for five years, and I was stationed in Japan before that,
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so I had kind of a cushy wheat assignments. Plus
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I was in the Air Force and if people know
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or don't know, they call it the chair Force. Not
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quite real military, but it gets the job done. I mean,
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I was happy to be in the military. I had
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a good time.
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Hey, listen, if I always said when I was younger,
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if I joined the military, would be the Air Force,
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because I don't know, it just seemed cool.
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It is a little easier. You're not sleeping intense for
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the most part in the middle of the desert, right
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they are. They're air conditioned.
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Hey that wow, that shocks me right there, you know.
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So do you think being in the Netherlands is what
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kind of created your sound? You know, it's a different
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vibe over there.
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Well, I would say, you know, the songs the original
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incarnation of the band was playing were actually songs that
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I started writing in Japan. So I can't say it
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influenced anything in particular, just because the basis of the
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songs we started playing were written before I got there. Right,
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So the idea, you know, we were forming a band.
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Originally it was going to be like a cover band,
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and then we you know, I so it was an
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American singer. I wasn't the singer at the time, so
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I was an American singer and we had, you know,
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we were he was his wife was in the military,
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so he was over there. And then we were trying
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to you know, form a band, and initially we were
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going to do a cover band, you know, just to
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play out, and then we you know, I was writing originals,
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so we so we were like, well, let's just learn
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some of my originals as kind of a starting point,
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and then it kind of just rolled from there. And
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then we were looking for a band name, and we
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came up you know, any band. Even I feel sorry
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for bands i'd have to name a band today, but
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even back then, trying to find a band name was impossible.
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And one of them was more Big Curiosity. Somebody came
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up with and we were like, that sounds cool, but
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that sounds more death metal. So the singer just said,
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you know, hey, you know, it wasn't my idea, right,
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I didn't want to call it, but the singer was like, well,
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let's use Ila. You know, you're writing the songs and
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nobody else has that name, and so we just kind
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of went with that, and so that was the original incarnation.
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I was around about a year and a half. You know,
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then I got out of the military, and then my
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idea was, or my hope was, oh, I'm going to
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go back to the States or get back to the States,
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and I'm going to reform another version of the band.
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And that never really happened until two thousand and eight. Wow,
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But I wasn't I was always writing songs in the background,
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and I was always you know, with the intent of
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recording them someday. But my goal really at that time
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was to get into a band that was more of
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like a kiss, meaning you had multiple singers, you know,
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and so you could be a little more kind of
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dynamic and what you're doing, or you know, even like
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a night Ranger where we have two guys singing lead,
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and those bands that were more versatile that I looked
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at it. Back then, I always wanted to be in
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a band with two guitar players and a keyboard player
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and a bass player and the drummer. But you know,
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after I moved to North Carolina in two thousand, I
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was in a few bands and you know, someone were cool,
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but they'd had the same thing. I would join another
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band and was already exit that existed, and then we play,
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you know, practice, and by the time it was on
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the write and record, the band would implode. And I
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just got kind of tired of that. After three times
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I think that I was in those situations and I said,
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I'm just going to focus on my stuff and you know,
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just have my resurrect ititla again. And so we've been
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kind of steady since two thousand and eight.
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Nice, you know. And it's funny. We were talking about
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my son because he's home. Bass has been Fort Bragg
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for his whole career, so he's in Vietnam.
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I'm about hour away. So I've played in Fayteville many times. Right,
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That's part of our music scene in this area is Fayetteville.
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I would imagine. So, hey, did you know okay? Because
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I do, uh, I do coverage a whole bunch of festivals,
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but at all the Danny Wimmer festivals, there's a band
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that plays that is a constant, you know, changing of
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the guards I speak. But it's it's an army band.
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That's a job in the army. I told my son,
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you're a schmuck. You took this job. You could have
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had a band man.
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But every every branch has a band like that because
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I remember, long story short is when I was in
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the Air Force, I had one job and I didn't
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like it, so I kind of failed out of the
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school on purpose. But I was looking at the job choices,
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and they actually had a job that was lighting and
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sound for the Air Force band. But what they do
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is they just have this thing called MWR. You might
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be familiar. It's Moral Recreate, Moral Welfare and Recreation, and
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so they have sort of this thing where MWR will
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put on these shows and sometimes the military bands will
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travel around. Sometimes you can do it as a temporary duty,
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meaning they'll take you out of your regular job. And
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then I knew a woman who was a really good
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singer and they took her out of her regular job
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because she's saying so well, just so she could tour
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the different military bases. But then you have kind of
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the main musicians and you'll see that like when you
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watch a football game or something. They have the guys
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in the military, you know, playing the regular what we
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think is a marching band stuff, you know, but they
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also have a rock band ironically, so where they'll play
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more modern music or more you know, kind of rock
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based stuff. So people who are Lucky who are really
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good musicians. You know, if you like being a musician
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and like serving your country and getting a decent paycheck.
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It's not the greatest, but you know that has a
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way to do it.
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Yeah, you know this band they play at all the
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Danny Wimmer festivals, which are basically metal and hard rock festivals,
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and I'm like, man, they if I knew they had
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that way back, Glenn, I would join the Army.
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Well, you definitely got to be a real good musician,
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like sight reading, and even if you're just playing well
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maybe for metal or something or more rock based, still
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take a little lesser educated musician. But you know, I
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kind of had an interest in the Air Force band,
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but I wasn't quite the virtuoso. I couldn't read and
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write music or you know, things like that. So I'm
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just a dumb metal guitar player. I tell people I
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play metal because I'm not good enough to play anything else.
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Because if you know you're a musician, you know basic
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rock stuff. I mean, it can't get complex with you know,
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scales and stuff. But most people who play metal guitar
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aren't probably good at any other type of music.
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Well, you know, it's funny because you mentioned scales, and
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when I was playing guitar as a teenager, I quit
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playing guitar because I was sick of having the practice scales.
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I'm like, just let me play man, how this ship's
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boring me?
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Well, but those are the skills you know that you
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developed to help you get right.
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You're a dumb teenager. You want it tomorrow, you don't
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want you don't think of, oh, I may have to
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learn the basics first. You know, I can't just get
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up and be Eddie van Hallen.
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Right. Well, I'm surprised you didn't switch the bass, because
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that's what most frustrated that guitar players do, is like, ah,
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this stuff's too hard. I'll switch the bass, because you know,
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that's even easier to play rocks in eric eighties where
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you're just riding a or the e and you're not
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really doing too much involved musically unless you're like, you know,
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a Geezer butler, which don't seem to exist much anymore.
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Those types of really good musicians on bass.
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Or I talk about a lot with people that are
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bassist Paul McCartney because he was a guitarist that had
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to play bass because there was already three of them
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playing guitar, so he drew the show straw.
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And he's a really good bass player, though. I mean,
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there are people who can play bass. There are guitar
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players that play bass or that you can tell, and
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then there are real bass players. So I mean, and
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up to my own horn, because I play a bass
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on a lot of the material. I don't mean to,
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but it seems like by the time we're going to
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record something, we don't have a bass player. Again, for
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whatever reason, bass players are the flakiest people, but I
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get a lot of compliments. They're like, Wow, it's a
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really good bass line. Who wrote that bass line? You know,
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because I try to do something complimentary to the guitar
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and not just play the root note, which is sort
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of the Black Sabbathy Geezer Butler kind of thing where
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you're you know, you're really carrying the song below the rhythm,
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but not just copying the rhythm.
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Right totally well. And I have the utmost respect for
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people like you that will play both instruments, because you know,
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it is kind of difficult, I think, even in your head,
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like to switch zones from guitars to bassis to whatever
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else you play. You know, it's like a different mindset
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or a different brain part of your brain and you
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have to kind of switch it.
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Well, especially people who can play guitar, piano, like who
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are virtuosos on several instruments, wind instruments, string instruments. It's
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like to me similarly, it's almost like speaking other languages.
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I've tried to learn other languages and my brain doesn't
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function that way. I don't get it, Like I was
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pretty good at Japanese, but I did. I had to
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think about it. Like there are some people either they
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have the capacity or they were born, you know, into
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different cultures where they had to learn Spanish or French,
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And to me, it's amazing that they just like you
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can just switch on and off. Like to me, that
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would be like playing guitar and then going and play
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like clarinet, like right right things. But they're just brain
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just because like oh I'm holding the clarinet now, now
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I can play a clarinet or I think clarinet's this.
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