Sept. 26, 2024
PipemanRadio Interviews Blag of Dwarves About Punk in the Park 2024
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she was bumping on the pudop.
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This is pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man
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W four c Y Radio. I'm totally excited about our
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next guest. We talked a while back and we're talking
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again because they just played at Punk in the Park
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in Orlando, which.
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Is what a killer festival that is.
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I always love that one every year, but I love
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that one was an Orlando because I could actually drive
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to that one. Unfortunately, as everybody knows my listeners, I
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had to miss that, which I was really bummed about
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missing this band set. But they are killer no pun intended.
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So let's welcome to a show Black from the Dwarves.
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How are you, hey, how you feeling?
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I'm doing all right, doing all right, and so let's
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just start off. How we was Punk in the Park.
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Well, always a fun festival to do this one was
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out in Orlando, so it's just hotter than hell out there. Yeah,
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and you know you got to kind of contend with
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the super heat while you're playing. But you know, we
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had a lot of fun. I mean, I always have
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a good time in Florida. And then we got to
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do a gig with Tsol and Daytona and a couple
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other things around the Dirty South, so I had fun
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with it. We got to see Joe Queer at his
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place out in near Atlanta, and we recorded a couple
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of Queer songs, so that was nice.
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Nice. You know, think about what you're saying about Florida
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because I live in Florida, and I always wonder how
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bands like you to have a lot of energy even
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survive through a set in Florida.
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Okay, it's kind of easier to do a half hour
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than forty five minutes. I was sort of glad we
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had the early set thing going because although maybe it
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would have cooled down a little bit later, I mean, yeah,
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you got to kind of figure for the for the
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for the terrain, you know, and yeah, some of these
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East Coast summer shows can really debilitate you. But you know,
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you know, you get energy from the crowd and the
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people being out there and having fun with it, and
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you know, you see people singing along and all that,
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and it just kind of carries you along.
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That it reminds me of Okay, Warp Tour always the
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last show in August was always in West Palm Beach,
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which is where near where my studio is.
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And where I live.
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Always used to be like, that's insane that you're doing
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the gig in August in West Palm Beach when you're
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doing something like Warped Tour where you're touring, it should
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have been something like it's more in the in the
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beginning of the tour.
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You know, well, I never did Warp Tour. We never
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got invited to that particular set of reindeer games. You know,
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they kind of get out of that. And so from
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what I hear, it was not really designed for the
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comfort or pleasure of bands or crowd. Now it's basically
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about making the maximum amount of money for a bunch
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of guys with shoes or something. So I love that
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you brought up about it.
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I love that you brought that up because I was
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just talking about this weekend when I was at riot
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Fest about that and it was like the first year
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it was a real punk thing, and the rest of
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it never was.
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Yeah, most likely. I mean it's you know, punk rock
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doesn't really replicate to me in any setting except for
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a little shitty club in the middle of the night.
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You know, that to me is punk rock like y,
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you know, going to a festival and paying a shitload
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of money and buying a big T shirt. I don't know,
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you know, like I have fun doing that shit now
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because it's just easier for me and my band and
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I can be seen by more people, and you know,
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you can move more merch and get a bigger paycheck.
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I mean, it's great in a lot of ways, but
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it's just like, none of it has felt like rock
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and roll to me ever. You know, you know, to me,
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rock and roll happens in nightclubs in the middle of
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the night.
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It's so funny you should say that. Two things on
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that note is I remember in La. You know, I
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moved to La in nineteen eighty. I was thirteen years old,
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and the first club show I went to in La,
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I was like, I'm never going to a real concert
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ever again. And that started me like for years, just
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every Friday and Saturday night going to club shows. To me,
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that is the best way to do a show for sure.
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Yeah, I mean not just feels right to me, But
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I guess it's just kind of where you're from and
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what you grew up doing. Yeah, but for me, you know,
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standing with a shitload of people and trying to have
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a big, mass group experience is not really my idea
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of music. You know. It's got to be intimate, you know, Yeah,
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I mean, you know, And a lot of the most
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fun I had with music too as a kid was
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a new record would come out, you'd go to your
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friend's house and everybody would listen to it. You know,
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Like it's so rare now that I ever have an
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experience of listening to music with anybody. You know, it's
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just not really done. You know, people watch TV. Music
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is sort of for your earbuds, or for the background,
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or for while you're doing the dishes, or while you're
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falling asleep or whatever. You know, it's for me, the
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way I grew up, we really loved music, and a
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new record was a really big deal and everybody didn't
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have it, and you know, you know, you'd go to
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their house and listen and you put it on, you'd
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hear it on the big speakers, and it would sort
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of mean something to a group of people, you know,
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And the kind of experiences people have now with music,
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I think are very private, and you know they're not.
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It's not that same kind of social thing, and so
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I think it translates to like the big shows, the silliness,
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you know, it doesn't come from the same kind of
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intimate thing that I grew up with with music, you.
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Know, well, yeah, yeah, because like what I grew up
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with same as you. It's like, first of all, you
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went by an album. You didn't know what it sounded
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like unless you went to their live show first. But
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otherwise it just looked cool and it was an experience
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you Like you said, you'd get together with your friends,
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you would play the album over and over again, look
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at all the artwork, look at all the stuff, and
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like just totally get into it. Or I would go
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to club shows in LA and then you would go
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with the band afterwards to either somebody's house or to
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Rainbow or someplace or whatever and just party all night long.
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And everybody's like, you know, there's more circle pitting after
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the show sometimes than during the show.
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I mean, that whole world of festivals and buses and
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shit is very back ass word to me too. It's like, oh,
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so you drive all night so that you can wake
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up in a parking lot at ten am. M. That
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sounds really fun, love right? You know, Oh great, your
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bus driver got a good night's sleep. You know, I
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don't give a fuck. You know that. The whole thing
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of that is just mindless to me. It's like, how
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about after the show we relax and somebody has a
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party and we listen to some records and we have
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a conversation. You know, how would that be. It's like, no,
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you know, everything fits into a commercial realm. You know,
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like this is the period when people are drinking and
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we feed them alcohol, and this is the period afterward
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when you're not commercially viable anymore. So just be sleeping
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on a bus that's rolling, you know, it's you're not
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You don't really come into contact with a scene per se,
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like some of the some of the early experiences I
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had in Rock and Roll. I would like, you know,
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go into Seattle for the first time and seeing how
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they were doing it there, and going to la and
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seeing how they were doing it. There and you know, uh,
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going to New York City and seeing how they were
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doing it there and then kind of hanging out and
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feeling what the town was like. You know, those are
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the kind of experiences that are very rare now, you know,
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because everything, it's everything's kind of been set up for
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maximum profit. And also for all these bands that are
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very scared of any interaction with their with their fans.
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I mean, I see it all the time at these festivals.
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It's like we hide on the bus and then we
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hide in the backstage, and we go out and say
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hi to the crowd, and then we go and we hide.
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We're hiding on the bus. We're scared. I don't know
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what to do, you know, and you're just like, man, like,
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why why did you get into rock and roll in
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the first place? So you know, that night on your
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bus and talk to your door manager and have your
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cheerleaders fucking carry your roady cases around. You know, it
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just none of it really makes a lot of sense
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to me.
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Right, you know. And you talk about the scene and
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it is a scene, and like just recently I was
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watching I call it like a home movie to me
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because I experienced it. But the documentary about the OC
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punk scene with the Cuckoo Nests. You know, it's like
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you mentioned Tsoil before they were part of that and
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the Dead Candies, and you know, it was like it
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was a whole scene and that club was like iconic
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and the whole you know, that's really to me where
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American punk should have stayed, you know, and like I
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remember being a kid and it's like if it played
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on the radio, it sucks.
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Yeah. Well, I mean new things come and take things place.
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I think hip hop music really took the place in
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terms of immediacy of punk rock, you know, and then
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it sort of blew up. It was more commercially viable
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in terms of the beat and the kind of background
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quality to it. You can just put it on without
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the vocal, and it was very soothing for people, and
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then it kind of you know, and so that I
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think a lot of the kind of celebrity thing of
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rock and roll leached away to hip hop. And you know,
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rock and roll was also kind of a victim of,
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you know, how shitty the records were that people were making.
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You know, like if you sit there and make a
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shitty record every thirteen months, because that's your recording cycle.
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I mean, I just sat through a lot of really
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bad punk rock records where it's just like, really, this
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is your fucking record, Like the people don't feel hungry,
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and they don't feel like they really give a fuck,
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and the rest of the people in the band don't
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really feel like they're trying. A lot of times, it's
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like one guy that writes everything kind of has the idea.
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I see that a lot with punk bands, and you know,
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with my band, it was always more I had good
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guys playing with me and and people that were interesting
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and would write a song and something new would come up,
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and you go, oh, we could try this, you know.
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I think with a lot of bands, they just kind
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of do what they always did. There's gold in the
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middle of the road. You do what you do, you know.
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Yeah, see, like I love like a few years back,
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I went to this tiki bar in Stuart, Florida, like
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somewhere nobody really goes, you know, And I went there
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to go see GBH at a tiki bar, and I'm like,
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that's the most fun, you know, And I was even
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I was interviewing Colin and I'm like, so, what, like,
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you know, being here in Florida goes, well, one night
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you're playing to a million people in Mesopotamia. Next night
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you're at a tiki bar in Stewart in Florida. Yeah.
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GBH was always good. I always thought they did a
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good job at kind of still being a rock and
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roll band. Yeah. A lot of English guys don't seem
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to have that. They've got oi oi oi quality, and
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it's like where is the rock and roll here? Like
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is anything fun? Or is it just like oh Margaret Thatcher,
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you know, and you're just like motherfucker.
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GBH always felt to me a little more like a
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rock and roll band. You know. There you go. I
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love it.
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So we did punk in the park. What else is
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coming down the pike for you guys that we want
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people to know about.
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Well, we're heading out to Australia. So wow, that's how
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fans out in Australia come see us. We're playing with
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