July 21, 2025

PipemanRadio Interviews Catch Your Breath at Inkcarceration 2025

PipemanRadio Interviews Catch Your Breath at Inkcarceration 2025
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We are at Shawshank Prison aka Ohio State Reformatory for the 2025 Inkcarceration Music & Tattoo Festival. Catch Your Breath is playing and came backstage in the Press / Artist Lounge to talk with Pipeman Radio of W4CY Radio about what it is like to perform at such an iconic location where Shawshank Redemption was filmed. This closed down prison is known to be haunted so when you go to Blood Prison who knows what will happen.

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Hi, you love done too?

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Yes, that's true.

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Why for you?

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Your incarceration America's rock, metal and tattoo best story.

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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe

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Man W four C Y Radio, and I'm here with

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Josh with Catch your Breath Nice here at Incarceration after

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the storm, Like.

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Yeah, it's pretty sick. It's been really rainy all day.

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I'm glad it's not raining right now, though hopefully it

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doesn't rain for the set.

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Oh you should have seen last night.

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That was it bad.

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Well that's why we're like opening late. Like there's like

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mud and ponds out there.

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One of our guys from our label takes this and

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was like, well, hopefully this doesn't rain out like Blue

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Ridge did that one year.

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Oh my god, don't did I interview you at Blue Ridge?

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Because I was there that year.

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I think you may have.

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I think I remember it, yeah, but I remember more

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what I had to deal with there.

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Man, that was it was just chaos the whole time.

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This is a dw fist though, so it's gonna go

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way better exactly.

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That's the point that one I remember, Like, I live

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in Florida and they didn't clear out the press tent.

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But I know the signs when that shit's coming, because.

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Yeah, you can tell I live it.

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And I'm like, yeah, this isn't good. And then like

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five minutes there, everybody get out.

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We all but finished up loading our gear after our set,

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and then it was just chaos after.

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That, right, you know the band heartsick.

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Right, So they had their tent and I'm walking by

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back to my campsite and I see that they're struggling

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to keep their tent down that's covering all their equipment.

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So I went over and help.

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Four of us were on all four sides hole in

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town and we all got picked up off the ground.

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Oh my god.

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Yeah, and so we're.

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Like fuck it, and we went to their other ten

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that was like in something else and we're holding it

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down and getting pelted by hail.

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Oh my god.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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If you guys weren't at blue Ridge that year, just

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be thankful.

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Yeah right, it wasn't worth.

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I wonder which was worse, Blue Ridge or Woodstock ninety nine.

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I was seven when Woodstock ninety nine happens.

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I'm sure you've seen like the documentaries in the videos,

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Like I remember being at Blue Ridge reminded me of

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that because Woodstock ninety nine they had like shit burning everywhere.

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But I didn't you die? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And flipping over golf carts like this friend of mine

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that was doing one of the golf cart taxis, she

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told me they tried to flip her over.

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I've heard that that's burning man. Now right, it's in

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the middle of the desert. There's like no safety net,

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all these people dehydrating.

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It just doesn't it doesn't sound like a good idea.

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Yeah.

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Now look at DWP on the other hand, Okay, all

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the notifications we got this morning, the opening changing, the

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time sets, like accommodating everything, oh yeah, and they are

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always prepared at a time they have a plan.

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A, B, C, and D like something is rand will

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when like everything is derailing and everyone's behind. But they're

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still managing to accommodate everyone, right and make sure that

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at least the artists nothing change for them. But I

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do see everyone running around quite frantically, but they're getting

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the jobs done.

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Oh no doubt that by the end, by time gates,

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this place will probably be perfect, you know, because they'll

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lay down the mold, suck out all the water and yep,

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and safety that's why the gates aren't open yet.

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You gotta have safety for your people.

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Yeah, that's the I would think that that's like the

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main priority for like any festivals, take safety first and foremost.

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If it's safe, the fun will happen. The bands are

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bringing the fun, you don't have to worry about that.

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Worry about it being safe and like make sure that

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people aren't swimming during the sets roadhilp so that the

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water pumps and everything. That's a great idea.

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Yeah, exactly. So I've you played Ink before.

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I believe this is our first year playing Ink.

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Wow.

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Yeah, it's kind of cool. We're gonna play the Shawshank Prison,

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you know.

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Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna do the ghost Hunt later.

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Oh it's badass too, pretty excited about it.

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Here's the thing you want to know though, when you

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do the ghost Hunt, you won't be sure who the

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characters are in there or the real ghosts, because that

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it is.

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Haunted for real.

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Oh really?

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Yeah, Like there were like people, prisoners tortured and killed

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in here, and I.

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Don't think I want to visit that one there.

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I think I'll go to the whatever that they designated

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to be the safe zone. I'm cool with that, like

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a voice here and there, I'll be cool. I don't

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think I want to be drugged down a hallway.

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Okay, So a Killer's Confession playing today, Waylon, I've been

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telling the story all week because it just blows my mind.

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He records the video in this prison, in one of

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the torture rooms, and he came out all scratched up,

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all over his body, like drawing blood, scratched up.

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Yeah, I'm looking forward to this ghost hunt now.

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Right right, maybe you should like do your set inside there.

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So I'm gonna, I'm gonna I'm gonna somehow come down

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with an illness. But before we go on the ghost time.

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I don't think they'll take you in the torture room though,

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so you might be good.

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Thank god, I wouldn't go in if they offered.

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Right, So tell the listeners who haven't heard you or

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seen you live, what they can expect a from a

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live show from you, guys. B How you describe your music,

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not like boxed into a genre, but us the artist.

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How you feel your music.

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Is, man, catch your breath. It's just like a really

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intensely emotional band where when you come to one of

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our shows. You're just as much a part of the

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show as the band and the lights and the sound,

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everything that's happening. You're an integrated part of our show.

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I love singing along with people. It's high energy, it's

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lots of emotions, and it's a like camaraderie. We really

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like to connect, like I mean that now, like a

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genuine sense, Like we really like to connect with our fans.

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We're on a little tour right now. Every night, after

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we get done playing, I go down to the merch

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table and I shake three hundred hands and I speak

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to three hundred people. It sets over at like ten fifty.

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I'm still standing at the table at one thirty.

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See, I love that. That's so old school too.

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Yeah, dude, well, I mean like this world is so

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digital and like we're all connected through the internet, but

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it doesn't feel right.

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We're not connected.

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There's no like human connection with that. So I really

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like when I can, like when it's when I'm allowed

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to go out there and really connect with the fans.

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So that's like something that we love to do. That's

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something that we do while we're on stage where here

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for the fans, and it's a fan experience when you

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go see us live.

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I love that ad dude.

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As far as like our sound. To be honest, dude,

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we've never really given a shit about like a genre

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or like whether or not this song is super heavy

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or this song is too poppy. If the song feels right,

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if it gets across what we're trying to say, we're

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gonna love it every time. And we always go in

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with the mindset of like we don't want to reinvent

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the wheel, we don't want to do anything crazy. What

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we want to go do is write the best songs

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that we possibly can at that time and make them

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the best version of what they can be, and make

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sure that they're trying to that they're at least attempting

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to convey what we're trying to say, because like.

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On some songs, it's a little complex.

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So what I'm trying to say, like Savages or something,

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it's really layered lyrics where like I'm trying to hit

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a whole bunch of different things, but overall, the energy

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of Savages and the message is just be pissed off

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at the leaders because they're fucking everything up.

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Fuck yes.

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So that's kind of like the message that we convey

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with that.

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I think it comes across in that song, like it's

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a very high energy, pissed off kind of song.

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And you get that when you listen to Savages, And we.

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Need that right now, cause yeah, the whole fucking world

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of Leaders are a bunch of dickhead dude.

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We integrated like an AI voice before each one of

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our songs. Now we wanted to like dramaticize the whole

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like theatrical performance of like our on stage performance and

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the AI voice before Savages that I wrote.

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It's going to incite a riot.

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I don't want it to, and I didn't plan on that,

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but when we were standing, like when we heard it back,

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like while we were standing on stage through our in ears,

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I just thought like, oh fuck, this might be too powerful.

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Right, my best bro he passed away, Uh, almost two

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years ago.

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I hate to hear that.

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Man, Yeah, thanks, but he was like, we just need

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to break the whole thing and start over.

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It's crazy that we're sitting here in twenty twenty five

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and saying that Rage against the Machine was right in

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nineteen ninety seven, right, Isn't that crazy?

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And like I think about like I was very heavy

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in the scene in the eighties. How the fuck can

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we write songs in twenty twenty five that would be

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nineteen eighties songs.

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Right, It's still so relevant. But it's because like people

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have been saying things throughout history that hey, this is happening,

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this is privatizing.

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We shouldn't allow this to privatize.

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That's bad.

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If we let that privatize, we shouldn't.

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Let this go away. I think what it is is

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it's it's never been like it's been done in like

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small increments over time, so it's never really that bad

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when they do it, and then we kind of get

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used to the bullshit, right, and then they do something else, Well,

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it's not that bad, and then we get used to

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that bullshit.

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They do it again. It's not that bad, it's not

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that bad.

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And now they're doing it so quickly that we're like, no,

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fuck that it is that bad. Yeah, and we hate this,

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but now are we in like the slope part of

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it that we can't turn back?

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And like that's why my bro said that. You know,

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it's like.

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There's a few stand up comedians that have made comments

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about what he thinks should happen in order for things

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to change. Just look it up on the internet.

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Oh man.

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And I love what you say about connecting with the

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oims because again, going back to the eighties, there was

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no social media, there was no Internet. But like me

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as a teenager would go to a Slayer show and

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hang out with them after the show, go to Metallica show,

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hang out with them, like going to their house and

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party and see and you become such a loyal fan

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because you know, it's like you feel like you're part

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of their family.

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Yeah, and there's like we've started doing like VIP, know

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and stuff like that, and that's cool. I'm just I'm

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from like Oklahoma and like a blue collar family. So

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paying to just like hang out with someone, right, It's

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kind of a weird concept to me. But like, obviously

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I can't make every decision where under an LLC there's

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three owners.

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And you still have to make a living so you

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can keep playing.

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But yeah, then it comes in like other people's livings

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and life coming to play and you have to think

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about it. So it's like, Okay, yeah, we have to

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do VIP, but like even on this run, we're doing VIP,

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but we're doing like a lot of extra shit in

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our VIP to make sure that, like it makes sense

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because after the show, I'm hopping off the stage and

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I'm going down and I'm signing everything and I'm talking

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to everyone, I'm taking pictures. I'm not rushing through anything.

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I'm taking my time.

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So like they're not really paying the meet and they're

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paying for all the benefits of yeah yeah, other people

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that meet you don't get.

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Yeah. So we've decided with our VIPs, like okay, let's

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like play games.

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We're playing this game called battle Pong right now.

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It's like a play on to beer Pong, right but

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it's a battleship beer pong.

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Nice.

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If you haven't heard about this, it's.

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About that sounds cool though.

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And I mean you can do water in the cups

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just to play the game. If you don't drink. It's

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totally I'm not promoting alcohol drinking. I don't drink, but

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it's super fun. We've been playing that with the fans,

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just getting it time to like relax and get in

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like a college atmosphere. Also with fans, they're getting goodie

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bags with a whole bunch of like good stuff in it,

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some sign stuff. We're making sure that we're taking care

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of them because, like I said, it's just weird now,

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you know. Because we started off as like a dive

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bar band. We went like five years of just releasing

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music with just.

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Me and Teddy in the band Wow.

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We didn't have any other members in the band, and

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we were releasing music to try to fill our band out.

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So we were going to like producers, just writing songs

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releasing them. We finally found our guys and we were

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in like the local scene forever. We didn't play that

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many shows because we didn't ever have a full band.

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So by the time when we finally got a full

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band that we stuck with, we started playing shows and

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we looked out because we had released dial Tone and

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then started playing local shows. We played two local shows

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and got signed Wow and Yeah dude. So like we

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took off from absolutely nothing, had no idea what we

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were doing, just kind of like thrown in, like, hey,

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great job, guys, here's a month long tour with like

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until I.

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Wake, you know, fuck yeah, that's the way it should be.

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It was sick, and then right after Until I Wake

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it was a popular monster Wow, and right in front

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of ten thousand people, dude, So it's.

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Been that blow your mind.

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It's been absolutely crazy, dude.

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Like you even imagine that.

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Yeah, So, like going from like dudes who barely even

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played local shows and didn't even like have the etiquette

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for local shows.

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It's now going on these national.

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Tours and hear at incarceration.

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Yeah, now we're here at incarceration. So like it's been

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it's been more like weird to adjust on a personal

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side than it has been like the business side of things,

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you know, Yeah, the business side of things, we've all

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been prepared for that, but there is no way to

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prepare yourself, like emotionally for all.

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Just tell people what it's gonna be. Like, it's different

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for everyone experience.

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Yeah, it's different for all of us.

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Some dudes like are twenty years into their career and

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still almost throw up before they go on stage every time.

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Yeah.

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And then there's dudes who like this is their first

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fucking show ever. They're opening for some huge band and

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they're totally cool. Here's a new artist, Kemy Kio coming

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out and I think her first tour is like with Seether,

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and she was like totally chill about it, dude, Like,

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so we were writing some music and she lives out

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in La and knows our producers. So she came to

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hang out and she wanted to meet us, and we

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were hanging out and I was like, so, like, what

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you got any tours planing or anything. She's like, yeah,

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I got my first tour planning going out with Seither.

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Like nothing, You're fucking going out with Seither for your

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first tour. And she was totally cool about it. Just

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totally cool. If you guys haven't heard about her though,

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she's cool too. She drums and sings at the same time.

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That's hard, Cami Kio, check her out. I'm gonna check

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her out. That's fucking hard. Yeah, to just play drums alone.

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I played for like nine years and still don't sucked

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after nine years.

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The only person, like two people that I knew that

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did it was a tray You and under Oath. Yeah,

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and they were both like phenomenal at it. So when

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she said she drummed and sang at the same time,

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I was like, I gotta check this out.

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She's fucking badass, dude.

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Wow, she's sick.

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And you know what, I do find most of the

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women in metal are fucking badasses.

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They really are, dude.

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I don't know what we weren't thinking in the eighties

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fucking gatekeeping them because I think they're way bad, more

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badass than the men in metal, you know, badass An

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Wilson or Nancy Wilson.

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Badass, Yeah, man, badass. Dancen's fucking such a great When

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she walks into her room, people shut up.

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You know right? How about like Nita Strauss.

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Nita Strauss another badass?

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Yeah, I mean, like, I mean.

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Spirits. Oh my god.

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I am obsessed with her singing technique. Courtney.

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Like I sit there, like up front, I'm watching, not

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watching the show. I'm watching her mouth when she does

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a scream, and I'm very She's got this thing where

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it's like she opens her mouth really like big and

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like it's like I can't even describe it. It's like

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pac Man or something.

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Yeah, you gotta show the teeth. Yeah, yeah.

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For some reason it helps with the like the growl

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portion of.

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The screen, just to kind of grit the teeth.

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And I have total respect because I also sang thrash

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metal way back when, but they didn't teach the right way.

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Oh you didn't know. I was saying, so you throats

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and fucked up your throat.

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Yeah, Like I can play like three shows and then

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be like, yeah, I can't do the next one, guys exactly,

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or just go on stage anyways.

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A lot of those.

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Guys would here Motorhead come out on stage and he's

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just You're like, damn, dude, like that sounds like it hurts,

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And it probably did, dude, probably.

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I'm sure it did.

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Listen, my voice is fried from this weekend as you

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can hear, and my throat fucking hurts.

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Yeah, dude, dude. I'm so happy that I got with

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Melissa Cross because, like I said, we went straight from

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local band to nationally touring, so I didn't have like

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years of like local scene or like small tours to

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like build up endurance.

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I just went fucking at it right.

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And obviously, when you're not used to doing that, you

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have no idea really what you're doing. You're gonna have

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some vocal problems. Your voice is gonna blow out, it's

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gonna hurt some days. I would get sick. And I

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got with Melissa Cross. And let me tell you something, man,

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And if you're a vocalist out there that struggles in

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the least, Melissa Cross will fix you. Wow, she will

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fix you. Now She's kind of like choosy. She she

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kind of chooses her client, but she seems like a

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really fucking sick person.

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Like she's kind of got like a.

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Hippie vibe to her, and she's really nice, but she's

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also kind of like a band guy to where she'll

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catch you off guard, like nah, fuck that dude, don't

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do that shit, and you're like okay, but and like

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a cool way, like she's not mean, and you know,

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I would suggest that anybody get with her because I

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got with her, and just two days into a run,

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we're doing an hour and a half every night, and

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now we're doing incarceration. Today. We've done two days of

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an hour and a half. Usually by now I would

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be feeling it. Yeah, don't feel a thing. I'm like,

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I owe it to Melissa Cross really sitting down with

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me over a video call.

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Wow.

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It was two video calls brother maybe yeah, maybe half

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an hour each, and she identified the things I was

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doing wrong and told me how to correct what I

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was doing. I've been applying those things at home, like rehearsing, dude,

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night and day. And it was like small things, yeah,

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small little things. And then like while you're doing her thing,

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she tells you like, while you're applying my stuff, you're

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gonna figure out what you have to do to do this,

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and then you apply your thing.

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And she was fucking spot on, dude.

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Like while I was learning her thing, I was like,

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that kind of feels awkward, but if I open my

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throat like this, it'll feel like it feels really good

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and I can produce the sound I want.

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She Mike dropped me and wasn't even there.

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That's fucking magic.

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She is a magical I'm like giving so many people

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love today.

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I know that you're like the promoter today instead of

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the band.

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Dude. This whole industry should just should be like this total.

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It's not a competition. Just because your band is eating

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doesn't I mean it's taking table like food off the

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table of any other band.

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Do you find me for everybody?

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Ninety nine percent of fans that love this band love

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your band too. And it's not a competition. I'm not

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here to hate on any other band. Everybody's loving what

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they're doing, and we're supposed to be it's art now,

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we're supposed to be have anoun.

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Man, Oh, it's expression.

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If you're not having fun in this business, you're in

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the wrong business because all the rest of it can

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be shit.

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Dude. There's so much of this industry that can wear

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you the fuck down so fast if you let it. Yeah,

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you have to focus on like this shit that you

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really like doing, because like I said, this shit will

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wear you down if you're not ready for it, or

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you're just like someone who hangs on to the negative

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aspects of things. The same for you.

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Well, you know how it is. You probably get this

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like aet this too.

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People look at my socials and they'll be like, Oh,

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you're living the dream life because that's all you're seeing

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on the socials.

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Do you guys have part People probably think that we're

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in like a fucking like five star hotel right this

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right now. But it's like, no, we're in a tent

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outside on like some fake grass sto.

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They were just sucking out sewage behind me exactly.

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And this is nice, Like where we are, this is

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like really nice.

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Compared to yes, like.

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We've had we've been to other festivals where we're like

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standing in the middle of a field, you know, and

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like in the sun. Hottish shit, it's like one hundred

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and four degrees. You're in the middle of a field

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doing an interview like this is nice, it's actually really nice.

471
00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:31.240
But it's not. It's not like always glamorous. Like what

472
00:21:31.279 --> 00:21:35.000
you see on stage as planned, guys, Like that's all planned.

473
00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:36.880
What you see in front of a camera. Ninety percent

474
00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:39.680
of the time, that's planned. A lot of our job

475
00:21:39.720 --> 00:21:42.200
is hurry up and wait. Right, yeah, hurry up and wait,

476
00:21:42.559 --> 00:21:45.759
sit in some concrete, undescript room.

477
00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:49.440
And the numerous things that can go wrong that you

478
00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:50.559
don't anticipate.

479
00:21:50.960 --> 00:21:55.319
Dude, it's funny you mentioned that because during rehearsals for this,

480
00:21:55.799 --> 00:21:58.319
our fuel pump on our tour bus went out.

481
00:21:58.480 --> 00:21:59.119
Oh fuck.

482
00:21:59.400 --> 00:22:02.799
So we had a photo shoot with Aaron Marsh lined

483
00:22:02.839 --> 00:22:05.680
up in Atlanta, but we couldn't drive there because of

484
00:22:05.680 --> 00:22:07.920
our bus, so we had to leave all of our

485
00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:11.359
gear in Texas. We had to fly to Atlanta, do

486
00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:15.599
the photo shoot, rent a car, drive to Alabama, and

487
00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:19.960
have our driver get our trailer with a rental van

488
00:22:20.480 --> 00:22:23.279
for the tour drive our stuff. He had to get

489
00:22:23.279 --> 00:22:26.480
the van from Tennessee, go get a trailer and like

490
00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:29.799
load the trailer and drive our stuff to Alabama to

491
00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:30.960
meet us for the first show.

492
00:22:31.440 --> 00:22:31.880
Wow.

493
00:22:32.200 --> 00:22:36.079
So like that's just like that's normal.

494
00:22:36.160 --> 00:22:39.480
That wasn't a stress, that's that's not even a bad day.

495
00:22:39.839 --> 00:22:44.440
Yeah, No, A bad day is like, oh, like our

496
00:22:44.519 --> 00:22:48.880
cab got rained on. Well, oh that's God knows how

497
00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:51.079
much money our rack got rained on. Oh my god.

498
00:22:51.160 --> 00:22:54.359
Imagine like, oh, we left our wireless units out off

499
00:22:54.480 --> 00:22:57.759
in the rain. We were at a you know, I'm

500
00:22:57.799 --> 00:22:59.640
not going to say the name of the festival. I'm

501
00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:01.119
not going to say the name of the festival because

502
00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:03.359
I don't want to get in trouble or get them

503
00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:03.839
in trouble.

504
00:23:03.920 --> 00:23:09.319
But we were in Texas, right, yeah, and it.

505
00:23:09.240 --> 00:23:13.279
Had started raining during the festival, and the hands were

506
00:23:13.359 --> 00:23:20.400
just nowhere, no tarps, just guitars getting rained on, whole units,

507
00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:24.599
like rig units getting rained on, like face plates getting

508
00:23:24.680 --> 00:23:27.920
rained on back of the rigs getting rained on. Things

509
00:23:27.960 --> 00:23:30.960
are getting ruined. There's like two inches of water in

510
00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:33.359
some spots. There's those gun cases that people use to

511
00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:35.119
carry like their wireless mics and stuff.

512
00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:38.039
They're underwater wow in some spots.

513
00:23:39.000 --> 00:23:42.200
And then like thirty minutes later, after the rain had stopped,

514
00:23:42.440 --> 00:23:46.319
the cruise show up with tarps to tarp our stuff.

515
00:23:46.400 --> 00:23:50.200
Oh that helps, And I was like, just don't at

516
00:23:50.200 --> 00:23:52.880
this point, you know, like there's no point the gear's done.

517
00:23:53.359 --> 00:23:53.960
Yeah, cooked.

518
00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:57.759
Like luckily we have like waterproof like just in cases,

519
00:23:58.519 --> 00:24:00.640
and we had all our stuff like locked up, so

520
00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:03.839
just our shells got rained on. So that's whatever they're

521
00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:05.720
meant to kind of take kind of that stuff.

522
00:24:05.720 --> 00:24:09.400
But not every other band was that lucky because some

523
00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:09.680
of the.

524
00:24:09.599 --> 00:24:11.599
Bands weren't at the stage. They weren't playing for another

525
00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:13.319
three or four hours and it just started rain and

526
00:24:13.319 --> 00:24:16.279
got delayed more. They didn't know that their stuff was

527
00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:19.200
set on the stage without tarts on it, and that's

528
00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:21.319
something that happens. So now you get on stage, your

529
00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:24.519
laptop got rained on, you have no tracks, you have

530
00:24:24.599 --> 00:24:27.000
no click track. You played to a click track if

531
00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:29.880
you played the track. Some guys don't, that's fine. But

532
00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:32.839
even if you didn't have a laptop, your guitar cabs

533
00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:35.240
got rained on. Your guitars got rained on, your MIC's

534
00:24:35.240 --> 00:24:38.920
got rained on. All of this shit that costs tens

535
00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:43.440
of thousands of dollars. Yeah, just ruined right there. And

536
00:24:43.480 --> 00:24:46.119
it's kind of like they shrugged their shoulders like, sorry, man,

537
00:24:46.160 --> 00:24:47.680
I hope you have insurance on your stuff.

538
00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:49.079
Yeah, they don't give a fuck.

539
00:24:49.400 --> 00:24:52.200
Yeah, And if you don't have insurance. That's fucking all

540
00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:53.200
out of pocket, dude.

541
00:24:53.440 --> 00:24:56.519
Yeah, Dammy Wimmer really does give a shit. Like for

542
00:24:56.640 --> 00:25:01.440
fifteen years doing his festivals, never heard an artist.

543
00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:03.200
Complain about anything about Danny Webber.

544
00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:07.279
I've never once had any problem with Danny Wimmer. I

545
00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:09.920
love all of his festivals. The only festivals I've ever

546
00:25:09.960 --> 00:25:13.960
had a problem with are non Danny Danny WI festivals. Like, like, legitimately,

547
00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:17.279
I love and everything Danny Wimmer does is amazing. I

548
00:25:17.319 --> 00:25:20.519
wish I wish some things other things would have worked out,

549
00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:23.440
like where Danny Wimmer would have gotten it, But I

550
00:25:23.559 --> 00:25:26.319
kind of get why people were opposed to it because

551
00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:27.240
he does.

552
00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:29.319
At exact you're talking.

553
00:25:29.400 --> 00:25:30.839
Yeah, you know what I'm talking. I don't want to, like,

554
00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:33.000
you know, start up the whole thing, But like, I

555
00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:35.400
wish he would have gotten a hold of that because

556
00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:38.119
I think it would have been so sick dude. But

557
00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:39.480
I get why he didn't.

558
00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:42.960
And with what you're talking about, I know from my

559
00:25:43.240 --> 00:25:50.200
end of the biz that nobody's really doing anything right now.

560
00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:54.880
Yeah, it's not like it's not going it's like.

561
00:25:56.359 --> 00:25:58.440
I don't even know if he'll go down this year.

562
00:25:58.599 --> 00:26:00.440
That's something I think that should be just gust is

563
00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:02.400
like we'll get my hair off here. Is like I

564
00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:06.279
get the whole like people talking about monopolization and stuff,

565
00:26:07.079 --> 00:26:09.440
but if we all come together and we agree that

566
00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:13.400
like this person's doing it really well, he pays the

567
00:26:13.480 --> 00:26:18.640
bands really well, the fans are safe, everything is like playing,

568
00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:24.039
So well, why not let him grab that too, because

569
00:26:24.039 --> 00:26:26.640
that's such a big part of this culture. Yeah, and

570
00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:29.440
went away that if he were to get a hold

571
00:26:29.480 --> 00:26:30.680
of it, he could bring.

572
00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:32.920
All that culture right back, and he's bring it.

573
00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:34.839
Back in a better way than it was because I

574
00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:37.000
know it wasn't the best before.

575
00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:40.079
Well here's what I know too from my end is

576
00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:45.079
that before there were basically it was like the wild

577
00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:48.359
wild West. Yeah, and you can't really have that with

578
00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:54.119
safety concerns and artists privacy and like I would see

579
00:26:54.240 --> 00:26:57.599
just general mission people walking around backstage.

580
00:26:57.880 --> 00:27:00.559
Yeah, yeah, no, you can't have that. It's really for

581
00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:04.960
the fans safety, yes, right, because they don't know what

582
00:27:05.079 --> 00:27:08.319
areas are dangerous of what areas aren't, where they can go,

583
00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:12.359
where they can't go, and it can create a lot

584
00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:16.359
of like controversy and like confusion, and people can end

585
00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:18.240
up getting hurt if they're in the wrong spots and

586
00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:20.480
they don't know that they're not supposed to be there. So,

587
00:27:20.599 --> 00:27:24.799
like fans, sneaking backstage is actually a safety concern totally,

588
00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:26.799
not only for the fan but for the bands too,

589
00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:29.119
because we don't know who this person is and why

590
00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:32.640
they're back here. And in twenty twenty five, that's a

591
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:36.200
scary situation to be in, especially with large groups of

592
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:36.920
people and stuff.

593
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:40.559
Okay, what happened with Dime, Yeah, exactly, dude, And that

594
00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:43.240
wasn't backstage, but it just shows there could.

595
00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:46.160
Be somebody like that that goes backstage.

596
00:27:46.279 --> 00:27:49.759
Yeah, that's why, dude. There is so much like police

597
00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:54.880
presence here and bomb dogs dude, like everything, Dude, it's

598
00:27:55.960 --> 00:27:57.559
did you not spers.

599
00:27:59.119 --> 00:27:59.359
Like that?

600
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:02.039
If you go out there, you'll see a big white tent,

601
00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:03.559
the snipers.

602
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:06.960
Are up, dude, Like, I feel so safe, man, Right.

603
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:09.960
The only other time, like on a tour that it

604
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:13.279
was this safe was the Falling Reverse tour. Ronnie had

605
00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:15.279
a lot of police presence, There's a lot of security.

606
00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:19.200
They swept with bomb dogs. It was just like how

607
00:28:19.319 --> 00:28:22.880
DW has ran And I wonder if like maybe Ronnie

608
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:25.880
formed his tours to kind of work like a dw

609
00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:27.400
Fiss because it feels really.

610
00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:29.960
Similar, probably, and people give him a lie of hate.

611
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:34.160
I give him a lie credit for doing that. Number one. See,

612
00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:37.400
this is what we're talking about now. They're sucking sewage

613
00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:38.359
during the interview.

614
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:42.880
We're getting some sewage sucking right now. They'll be done soon.

615
00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:45.400
And I know people that work for him and say

616
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.920
he treats an employ everybody, every single employee in the

617
00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:50.680
camp like great, yeah.

618
00:28:50.599 --> 00:28:53.759
Dude, Like we showed up and like so Ronnie is

619
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:58.000
like intertwined in absolutely everything. When he says that like

620
00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:00.359
all of this stuff is from his head and like

621
00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:04.240
he's in control, he absolutely is right. And but when

622
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:06.079
we showed up the first day, there was a bottle

623
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:09.160
of champagne. And I think you note that he wrote

624
00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:11.599
personally for us coming to the tour because he knew

625
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:14.920
he would be too busy, like especially day one to

626
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:17.799
come say anything. And it turned out he was like

627
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:18.960
that busy every day.

628
00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:20.000
Wow.

629
00:29:20.119 --> 00:29:23.319
So he's he works hard, but he's like a really

630
00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:26.200
professional guy. I saw. I've seen him talking to his

631
00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:31.920
crew multiple times. Super respectful guy. I have seen smaller

632
00:29:31.960 --> 00:29:37.279
bands that preach being nice all the time and camaraderie

633
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:40.359
and brotherhood be absolute shit.

634
00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:41.480
Bags to their crew.

635
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:45.279
I've seen it, and it's kind of funny that, like

636
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:49.759
some of the guys that play a character or or

637
00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:54.160
have a personality online behind the scenes are like the

638
00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:56.119
nicest fucking guys in the world.

639
00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:00.920
It's a role you're playing when you're on stage, when

640
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:04.799
you're on the mic. Even with me, it's like people

641
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:08.599
confuse my radio personality with my real personality.

642
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:09.160
Yeah, dude.

643
00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:12.839
It's kind of funny sometimes because it's like, come on, now,

644
00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:13.839
I'm playing a role.

645
00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:16.200
I walk around that's polished all the time.

646
00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:19.799
Or leave it even shit I do on my radio show.

647
00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:22.440
They're like, I have people I've known my whole life.

648
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:25.000
They're like, what happened to you? Used to be so

649
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:27.960
nice and now you're like kind of a player and

650
00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:29.119
blah blah blah and shit.

651
00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:32.480
You mean I'm a human and I have emotions, right.

652
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:35.960
Or maybe I'm paying playing a role on the radio.

653
00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:38.400
You know, it's called entertainment.

654
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:43.279
I'm trying to entertain people. Yeah, it's an entertainment business, right,

655
00:30:43.799 --> 00:30:45.839
And that's what people have to understand about it is

656
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:49.160
it's a business. When you're like the local dude, that's like,

657
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:51.839
oh no, it's art, and then you like get into

658
00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:54.559
and you're like, oh, it's majority, it's business and it's

659
00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:58.200
a very little bit of art. Then your eyes kind

660
00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:00.400
of get open to like why things were the way

661
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:02.720
they work. There's a lot going on here, and there's

662
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:05.839
a lot of lives that this shit touches, dude, and

663
00:31:05.880 --> 00:31:08.359
there's so much to it that I don't even know

664
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:11.079
all of it still, right, you know, I just know

665
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:13.319
like this guy has a badge and he's probably doing

666
00:31:13.319 --> 00:31:14.359
something important, you.

667
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:15.680
Know, right exactly.

668
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:17.920
There you go, that's got kind of how you figure

669
00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:18.240
it out.

670
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:19.119
Totally.

671
00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:23.240
Tell everybody, your socials, your web how they can buy

672
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:26.440
your merch because bands don't survive without merch, So they

673
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:28.640
can't listen to my show if they don't buy your merch.

674
00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:32.960
Yeah, so guys, we are Catch your Breath. You can

675
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:36.279
find us on Instagram, Facebook, any social media platform is

676
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:39.359
Catch your Breath t X. Our merch will be at

677
00:31:39.400 --> 00:31:41.680
thriller dot com, I believe, and you'll can find that

678
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:45.759
over at King's Road or Merch. They also have our merch. Also,

679
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:48.880
we have a new song coming out soon. We are

680
00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:52.319
working on album number two nice. We already have three

681
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:54.920
written songs one of them is going to be coming

682
00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:57.279
out hopefully in August or September, and we will be

683
00:31:57.319 --> 00:32:02.039
playing it tonight at Incarceration is called Dark. Be on

684
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:05.920
the lookout for that, guys. Other than that, thank you

685
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:08.000
guys so much for listening. Thank you for having me bro.

686
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:08.839
This was super cool.

687
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:10.039
Oh my pleasure too.

688
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:13.359
And it's like normally at these festivals, I don't even

689
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:16.480
do an interview that's long because you have a time schedule.

690
00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:17.559
I have a time schedule.

691
00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:24.440
Wait, your fucking interview is why we're here longer, because

692
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:28.240
it's just so real and different. It's not the same

693
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:31.240
bullshit of blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. And

694
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:33.720
that's why I like doing conversations so we could hear

695
00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:34.880
what you're really passionate.

696
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:35.920
Will you make it easy brother?

697
00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:40.279
Hey, you made it easy too, And we'll see it

698
00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:43.519
here at INK in a couple hours.

699
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:45.119
One o'clock main stage.

700
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:49.000
Yes. And Louder than life too, right you probably?

701
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:51.119
Yeahude, louder than life. I can't wait.

702
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:53.559
I will see you there too, So thanks a lot

703
00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:55.480
for being here and thanks for being on the Adventures

704
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:56.039
of Pipe Man.

705
00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:57.920
Hey, thank you so much. Mine. We'll see you next time.

706
00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:03.039
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipemen on

707
00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:06.440
w for c u I Radio.