June 16, 2025
PipemanRadio Interviews Change Persona at Download Festival 2025
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Hey, you have done too, Yes, that's true for see
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wow crazy young.
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Hello, this is pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe
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Man W four cy Radio and I'm here.
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With Change persona.
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Nice here at Download Festival. Why I know, first of
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all is how the fuck did you even get the
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Download Festival?
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Oh well, there was a form that we had to
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fill in to get onto the takeover stage and yeah,
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it's a competition and it was our drama that put
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us up. And when we got the message that we
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were chosen, we thought it.
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Was a scam. We thought it was just someone just
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trying great.
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Yeah, yeah, wasn't it like how many bands was it
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it was out of? Was it like thousands? Three hundred
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and sixty? Was that right applied? Or we're in the
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consideration process and like we got the slot and we
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just couldn't believe it when we found.
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Out, Wow, how many did they even pick at the
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three sixty? Do you know?
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Is it like six or something like us? Yeah, something along.
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That's amazing.
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Yeah, we'll absolutely gas.
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It's an insane incredible opportunity.
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Right like this is like this is like hollow ground here,
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you know, and to get win that competition three hundred
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and sixty other bands. Man, Yeah, like, either you're really
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really good or they all really really sucked.
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Oh them.
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That could be true too, but I doubt it. I
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think it's that you're really really good.
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Oh thank you.
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Yeah, I hope.
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So.
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I mean I think we just get really lucky sometimes.
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You know, well sometimes luck plays into it, but you
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still have to have skill to get the luck.
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We've had some great compliments whilst we've been here, Like
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people have been like really really bigging us up. It's
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been lovely. It's been really nice to see.
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Yeah, I want to hear about your experience here a
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download and you know, so you performed that district X right,
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that's right, Yeah, And what was that like? Like described
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to me how that felt, what it was like, how
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people reacted all that good stuff.
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Well, I was shaken through the whole thing. I don't
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know about the guys.
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But yeah, I think the thing that really stood out
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to me was after we played our second song, we
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had a slight little gap just to talk to the crowd,
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and I was just like, hello, download and everyone's like
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I was like, oh my god.
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The feedback was just absolutely incredible.
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Oh my god.
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It's like I say, it's the biggest thing we've ever done,
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and we just like have a taste for it now
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and we just want to continue this.
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Can't go back, no, no, now, you gotta get inside
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here in the arena, absolutely work your way to headline.
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Yeah, that's that's next on the list. Yeah, yeah, what's
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our best?
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So, describe your music to me as the artist, not
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a genre, but how you the artist would describe your music.
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I guess like before people have used this kind of
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description of us. They've said, if like rise Against and
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Billy Tallon had a baby and raised it in South London,
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that's changed persona. That's what we're kind of like. So yeah,
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that kind of like punk rock. A little bit of
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a rock mixed in with it too, but yeah, mainly
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that kind of fast, angry punk rock sound.
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I think I love that and I love that there's
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uniqueness of the blending because if I live bands nowadays
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that are like dialing it in with formulas, they all
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just sound the same. You need bands like you that
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are gonna use the influences but then create something unique.
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Yeah, one hundred percent. It's just I think Connor, you're
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the songwriter, aren't you. So it's just a case of
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we write what feels, what feels right and go with
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that rather than try and be pigeonholed into a certain
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and sound under a certain box. I mean you can
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probably elaborate.
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Yeah, to be fair.
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When we first sort of started, I felt that when
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I was writing music, I felt quite limited because it
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was like, you're punk rock, so you need to stay
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in this box when you write.
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Yeah, And after a while it's just like I've stop that.
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Yeah, just be yourself.
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Yeah, I just want to write what sounds good. Well,
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I like to write, and you know, and the others
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have really jeled of it as well. They really enjoy it.
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I think that's the best way to do it, because
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that's what makes you last. That's what makes you authentic.
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You can't last trying to be something you're not.
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Yeah, that's very true.
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That's why bands don't survive or breakup or whatever, because
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you start hating what you're doing because it's not your passion, or.
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You have albums where it's the same thing again and
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again and again, and you might just get burnt out
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doing the same sorts of things.
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Just you know, experiment have fun with it.
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I think, yeah, kind of like Ali when they have
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some about the music changing for bringing a rise and
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he's like, I want to write the same song over
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and over again. That's fucking boring.
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Yeah, no, absolutely, and then the songs that they're making
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is fantastic.
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Yeah, so more power to them.
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And it doesn't mean they didn't do the other stuff,
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but they already did the other stuff. And if you're
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an artist, you want to grow, you want to evolve,
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and as you learn your craft, war you are experiment
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with other things. That's what keeps you interested.
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I think also just allows you to gain skills.
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Just yeah, as you grow, like you've said, it's just
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like if you stay in a narrow little box, you
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only learn within that small little area. But then when
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you start getting influences everywhere else, go oh yeah, like
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that's how they do that, and that's how they do that,
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and you can really incorporate that into what you do
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and just continue to gain knowledge.
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Yeah, Like, if you're a punk rock band, how do
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you learn the fourth chord? If you don't expand.
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We have now.
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Yeah, it was very like powercord, power cord, power chord.
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One thing I love you.
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Status Quo actually have an album that's called in Search
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of the.
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Really as funny as well then, because it's true why
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it's three chords, it's because punk was basically developed so
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people that didn't know how to play music could be
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in a band. But then you learn how to play,
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so then you have to play the fourth chord because
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you only learn the three chords. Absolutely, oh man, that's great.
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What does he want to say?
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Yeah, I mean if we just stuck to a formula
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and done what we're quote unquote supposed to do, but
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we just sound like everyone else exactly. I think we've
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got a unique sounds and I think that's maybe why
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we were picked to do takeover in the first place.
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Another advantage we've got we're just making from school. We
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decided to start a Band's at wage Werry fifteen sixteen,
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and you're still friends and it's just stuck and we
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haven't killed each other yet, which is nice.
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Yet it's rare that that happens too, you know that,
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especially when you start out in school. You know how
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many people are even friends with their schoolmates?
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You know, absolutely, yeah, there's so many people that just
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drop off at your life. I think, like you've said
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quite a lot, is we're friends first, Yeah, and then
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we're in a band after and that connection has just
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allowed us just to continue being a band just because
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we love to do it.
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We love each other.
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Yeah, that's the one jevity right there.
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Yeah.
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I think that's why, Like when we started out, there
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were so many other bands on the same circuit that
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a year or two in would kind of drop out
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stop being a thing. I think because we've always had
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that foundation of the first thing as we're friends first
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and bandmate second. That's what's allowed us to It's like,
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what sixteen years now, we've been going. That's what's kind
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of kept us going and not to fall apart like
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other bands eventually do because they.
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Or they started hating each other and you can tollly
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tell even if they stay together, Like I love watching
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being on stage where they're having fun, they're fucking around
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with each other because then you know they're a family.
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Well at the end of the day as well.
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Like, the one thing that everyone needs to remember is
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when you're playing music, it's also about having fun. It's entertainment,
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yeah right, and you're also entertaining yourself.
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And if you're not having fun, how am I having exactly?
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It all?
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Reflects you can tell, like you say, you see bands
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are just sort of there for a paycheck maybe or
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they're just there just to fill the gap, and it
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really reflects on the show, I.
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Think, or you end up like James addiction exactly.
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Oh man, that's insane. But that's what happens when you
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drive force it. There's a reason they didn't play for
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many years. Don't force it. You have to be friends first,
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like you guys are smart.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That just keeps the glue together, right, that keeps everything together.
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You have your foundation now because you have that friendship totally. Yeah,
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and just well your oyster after that, right.
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That's right. I love your tattoo with the cassette tape.
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Oh thank you.
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There's not many people in your age group that would
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want a cassette tape tattoo. Yeah. Man, I've had a
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lot of cassettes that look just like that and or
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that I had just spliced together. And okay, so for
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those of you don't know what I'm talking about, he
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has a cassette tape tattoo, but that has the tape
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part out of the cassette tape all twist it up
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and any of you that ever had cassette tapes you
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look at and you know exactly what's happening there.
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It's good. Yeah, the cleff was a nice idea, I think.
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Yeah, I just I love, you know, physical media generally,
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and yeah, there's just something about a tape. It just
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feels good to open and look at and feel and
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just slightly in the it's wild, right, And luckily I
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don't have to get my pencil in and start rewinding
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it right right right.
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I'm a little bit after.
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That, but yeah, I just I did that. By the way,
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did did fun? No? But what was even less fun
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was I had Blizzard of Oz on a track, oh wow,
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And I had to take a match book you remember
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what those things are? Have you ever seen one? Because
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like they don't really exist anymore. And you had to
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put under the tape in the machine because otherwise it
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would be like cray really weird.
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Because I put my tape in the other day and
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it was doing that, and I was like, what the
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hell is going on? I pressed because there's it's like
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a double cassette player, and I pressed pause on the
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other one that had nothing in it.
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Then it all came back to life.
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Look at that, and I was like, what happened? See that?
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And that's what life was like. It's like, shit just
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s fucked up and you're like, what the hell? And
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then here was the most of name part. Okay, it
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was you had four you had tracks. Four tracks. It
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would fade out in the middle of a song to
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change tracks and then fade back in. So if I
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some chance, you can find something on YouTube or somewhere
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that has mister Crowley from an eight track literally in
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the middle of mister Crowley, it does that, and that's
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fricking annoying.
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It sounds very annoying.
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I can't listen to the whole song, yeah, because there's
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no way to. It's like that was a way. It's
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wild so fun, I know, right, Yeah, So the cassette
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tapes were a step up from that, you know, but
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then like on your arm when it started eating your cassette,
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