Sept. 1, 2024

PipemanRadio Interviews Color of Chaos at Rocklahoma 2024

PipemanRadio Interviews Color of Chaos at Rocklahoma 2024

PipemanRadio Interviews Color of Chaos at Rocklahoma 2024

Take some zany and serious journeys with The Pipeman aka Dean K. Piper, CST on The Adventures of Pipeman also known as Pipeman Radio syndicated globally “Where Who Knows And Anything Goes”....

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It's time for.

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The Adventures of Pipe Man on W four c why

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dot com wis pomp Beats is number one Internet radio station.

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Here's your host, the pipe Man.

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I think of this man. This is the pipe Man

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here on the Adventures pipe Man dot for cy Radio.

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And I'm here with color of chaos.

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Yes, what is the color of chaos anyway?

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Blood red, orange, fire, there it is. It's chaos right there.

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I love it. I love it. I love your shirt,

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Thank you, thank you.

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Okay, I'll tell you why I love it Because I

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am a total metal head, punker hippie. So I'm just

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I'm loving a reggae show, but I'll go later to

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a Slayer show after going to a Ziggy Marley show.

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Or you're the type of guy I like to take

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a car ride with a long trip, you know what

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I mean. We don't know what's coming on next.

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Right exactly exactly, and you could just be like fucking

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headbanging full out and then all of a sudden you're

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listening to Sublime.

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Oh exactly exactly.

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That's how I roll, right, I mean, you know what

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I come from the eighties scene in LA where all

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the fucking gatekeepers were, and I think it's the stupidest

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shit ever. If you like music, you like music. Do

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we like all music?

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No?

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But nobody likes just one type of music.

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Come on, No, there are certain people, though, they get

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so hung up, and you see it every super Bowl.

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We need a CDC.

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It's like, no, man, you know, I'd like to see

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ACDC up in there, but I like to see him

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with maybe, you know, Lady Gaga or something that'd be cool.

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Right, we need some rock and roll and the super

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Bowl have time for the next ten years.

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That's all I have to say about that.

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There, it is there, it is right. There's the guy, says,

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a guy that wants his cardinals there twos.

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Okay, So then I want to know this. Lady Gaga

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performed with Metallica. Way do you think of her doing that?

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Well?

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I love Lady Gaga.

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In fact, I was just watching her on the way

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I'm flying out here with the The Star Is Born.

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But it was good, I guess you know. I mean

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it was good. It wasn't horrible. She's no Fergie singer

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for Slash, but it was good.

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I mean there you go, wow doing her dirty dirty.

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I love it.

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And you know, the whole punk metal thing that I

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experienced in the eighties two was fucking stupid. I was

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a long hair that used to get my ass beat

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because I went to punk shows, you know, and I

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went anyway.

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Have you seen Clockwork Orange County?

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I have not seen them live because I couldn't.

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It's the movie, so it's all about the eighties Southern California.

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To look at that, it is because.

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The trip down memory Lane and you're like, oh my god,

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this is the best thing that's ever happened on on streaming, right.

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Yeah, I'm gonna have to check that out. I thought

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you were just talking about Clockwork Orange No, I.

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No Clockwork Orange County is it's It's a movie.

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That's pretty cool. You have to check that out because

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I've there's actually some OC punk bands that I've seen

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in the past few years that I would not allowed

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to see in the eighties, and I was so pumped

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that I got to see him, you know, And it's

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like it's funny now too talking to some of them,

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like interviewing the Exploited and GBH and Discharge and saying

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how come I couldn't go your fucking shows, That's right,

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you know, It's like, come on, that was stupid. I

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was at the first crossover show ever, like it was

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at Sun Valley Sportsman's Lodge. It was like an Elks

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lodge with no security and the first show ever went

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punk and metal in the same building. It was fucking

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pun intended. It was the color of chaos beyond just you.

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So tell our listeners a little bit about the color

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of chaos. That they haven't seen you at Rocklaholma. They

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haven't heard you. How would you give them a visual description?

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You know, we're just a I think, just a regular

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just rock band, and we'll play whatever we write that

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we think is cool, not to go dark and deep

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and all that stuff.

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But this man actually started on the back of.

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My suicide note Wow, and some girl I never met

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before I kept saying I was broken, and we would

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talk on the phone and stuff like that, and I'm like,

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I'm out on my forty third birthday, peace out, letting

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you know now. And the day I was writing my

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note and she goes, you're not broken because I call

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myself broken. She goes, You're beautifully broken, And I was like, God,

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damn it, that's good.

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Wow.

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I flipped over a piece of paper and I wrote

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these lyrics to Beautifully Broken.

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Then I was like, well, shit, now that it's open. Man.

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I got the first one out, and then I wrote

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a song called Hate, and then I wrote a song

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called Hollywood. And then I just called up three guys

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that I knew most of my life. It was like, hey, man,

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you want to meet me in the studio. And we

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went in and banged it out, and next thing you know,

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we got picked up by internet radio and Hollywood like

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hit number one in a market in Australia.

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Wow.

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And so I was like, well, I might want to

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stick around for a few minutes. So then from that

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point forward, I started living my life as what's the

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worst that could happen? Somebody say no, like I was.

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I was ready to blow my head off. What's the

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worst that is? Anybody's gonna say after that? No.

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So Scott Wiland, on the tour that he died.

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On, was coming through Phoenix and I said, let me

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just reach out to my buddies. Hey, ask Scott if

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we could open up. I swear to God. Thirty minutes

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later he goes, yeah, Scott, said no problem. Wow, these

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guys were pissed because we had like three songs we

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in thirty days. So we became the big Enders man,

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big big Enders, ring.

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That shit out. You know. These two had not even met.

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Wow, we had shit going on, but their schedules were

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always conflicting, so we just kept you know, doing it.

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They met backstage basically, you know, Injro tape roll. We

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went out and rocked it out and we were like,

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holy shit, you know. And then our next show is

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with Jeff Tate with with you know, from Coins right

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from in Tucson, and we just started playing these these

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bigger shows and it was just under that model, what's the.

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Worst gonna say?

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He is, no, yeah, you know, and then we've gotten

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ding because I write. I write a lot of stuff.

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Like I did a song Edge of Knight. These two

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were in ban Tango and they weren't getting along and

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he called me up. He was just kind of just

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you know, letting stuff, some stuff go, and I wrote

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a song called Edge Knight, hung up the phone and

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wrote it, you know, about about them. And you know,

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I've written stuff about you know, Lance's Lance's sun had

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passed in Afghanistan. You know, so I write stuff like that.

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We actually had a stupid ass record label. You know,

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they heard of us and they're like, do you do

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you write anything like party music and it? You know,

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it's like, I'm fucking old as fuck, dude, Like the

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party days are gone? What do I know about party now?

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Like meta musial and be in bed by nine? You know,

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I don't know shit about that.

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Yeah, yeah, oh man, that's great.

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I love it.

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But I love the story because how many artists are

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on that edge right there, like and you know, we

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think of Chester and Chris and it's just like holy shit,

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Like the average person looks at them and thinks, what

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could be possibly wrong with their fucking life? Oh yeah,

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they don't realize how much can be wrong with anybody's

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life that you have no idea what they're going through.

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You know.

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I write a letter to each one of my kids,

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and I give it to him on the eighteenth birthday.

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I start on their seventeenth, give it to him on

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the eighteenth. So I'm down to my third kid just

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turn eighteen. I got one to just turn seventeen. So

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the third kid I give to her in March. And

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one line says, always be kind and combastionionate to everybody

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because you don't know what the hell they're going through. Yeah, yeah,

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And it's just I think because I went dark like that,

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I appreciate more and just like I could look at

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somebody and be like, oh, that person starts. And I

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never went public because oh I want attention, but I

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was just like, it might help somebody out down the

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road of just going Okay, you know, it doesn't have

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to end with and then that asshole, you know what

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I mean, It could end with oh, and then they

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switched it around and overcame things.

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You know.

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Yeah, sometimes you do eat a shit sandwich and it

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tastes like shit the entire time, and you keep begging,

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you know, for more, but eventually you know, right.

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It's a true story.

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You know, you know you're trying to be hopeful, but man,

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you got another fucking shit sandwich for dinner.

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I know, right.

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And beautifully Broken. I'm gonna have to hook you up

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with this podcast. I know it's called Beautifully Broken, and

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I'm gonna talk to him like, you gotta use this

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band song for your official song for the podcast, because

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just makes sense. Yeah, I want to hear about you

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guys meeting backstage, because that's a trip to me that

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you meet backstage and then have to play together, because listen,

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being a band, there has to be synergy between people.

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So I'm fucking in awe that you guys just went backstage,

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met each other and then fucking played together.

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First, Danny was he much like Steve, our guitar player.

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He said, hey, you want to track some stuff in

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the studio, and we did. We did a couple of

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rehearsals for the you know, pre production, and then he

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showed us a logo of Color of Chaos. And at

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the time, I thought we were just tracking. I mean

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I was busy. I was in a lot of bands.

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I was touring a lot with Bang Tango and and

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he I was driving away, and then I started thinking

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about this logo and I called for Steve up and

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I go, did we just join a band? I mean,

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I thought we were just tracking, and he goes, no,

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he's got a logo and everything. I think we're in

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a band. So and of course I hadn't met him

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as our singer Steve yet, and I just heard him,

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you know, the demos of him singing, and I was like,

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I don't care.

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What he looks like. His voice is amazing.

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So it's I think if you're as seasoned as we

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all are, we you know, we're older, we know what

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we're doing.

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We get our homework done.

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Debate story right. When you're older, posted young and stupid,

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you know, we.

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Got we got confidence.

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I mean, we've got a lot of years behind us

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on stage, and it's just it's it's it's no big deal. Yeah,

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I mean, it's just like showing up and working.

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You know.

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I mean it's it's it's just it's natural. And the

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way all all four of us has been itsed. It's

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they're not a single one of us being switched out.

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Would it work?

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I mean, we have that's a band, the most insane

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chemistry that I've ever seen.

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So I love that because that's a band. Okay, you

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can tell as a listener if I'm watching this show,

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and I can tell if these these bandmates don't want

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to be with each other, and you can also tell

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when they do, and that's a good live show. It's

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not a good live show when you can see all

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the negative energy up there.

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So and and we're truly our brothers like I've known

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Favella or guitar player since I was nineteen years old.

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I'm fifty three now, you know, Like we've tried to

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literally kill each other, you know, but it's just like.

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I've never had the experience and and all bands be like, oh,

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there's a chemistry and there's whatnot when the four of

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us do and that intro tape stops and it's time,

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it's go time, and I count us in. We just

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know where each other is. You know, today the rent

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a kit kind of took a dump on me up there,

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you know what. And as a dropper, you know, you

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drop out for a second, you're just hitting Snaverybody's like,

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what the hell? But it just you don't miss a beat,

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you know. I did, but but not that much, you know.

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And it's just it's just one of those we're all

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there for each other and we know I know where

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he's at. He knows where he's at, you know, And.

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That's way cool. I want to hear your take on

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how your synergy between all of us here, all of you.

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Let's say, well, the hostility that James Heathfields are thing

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comes between us two about a lot of things. Okay,

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I love that it's a whole different world. In the

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studio recording, he's very bossy for being a drummer, and

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but he writes the lyrics.

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But it's this.

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But then we're outside of the studio, we're friends, We

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go out to dinner together, go whatever. It's same thing

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with Carlson, you know, he comes in and does his thing,

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and Lance just sits back and does his things. So

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it's when we're all four together, it's on stage, it's

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a whole different thing than being in the studio and

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running around with each other. And it just once we

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get all together, everything just seems so cool. You know,

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we're rehearsing without him, and you know, because he lives

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in Tucson, and it just wasn't the same he steps

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in the room, everything just changes the same thing when

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we recording stuff, writing stuff, recording stuff. So when we

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write stuff, he's not there and it just doesn't make

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sense until he writes the lyrics, he starts singing, he

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plays his basslines. Everything just comes together to the studio

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and the whole thing changes as well. You record the

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stuff and then then the the layering starts and then

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you have something. And that's how it's been since day one.

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With our songs. And I think that's the only thing

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that's kept us together is that at the end when

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we put the song out, I was like, Wow, that's

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a really good song.

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Well let's keep going. Yeah, so and then then then

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we do it, we do it again.

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We like it, and that's how it's built our this

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band and why we stay together. And there's been some

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rough patches here and there, you know, I mean, it's

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just the way it is, but it's it's been like, oh,

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here's another song, you know.

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So the songs are what keeps us probably together period.

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And it just sounds kind of rough at the beginning,

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like I said, but once every everybody's in, they have

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their the mixtures in and then you go, okay, well wow,

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that's why we're not That's why we're I would say,

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why we're still together ten years later?

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I mean, well, you know, you talk about songwriting, and

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then why am I interviews with Joe from the Vandals,

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he talked about songwriting and he's like, to be a

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really good punk band, you really need to have good songwriting.

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We suck, but the descendants that songwriting and that's why

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they're still around, you know, to.

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Kind of a to what he had going on.

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Lance was invited to be in a movie with Drew

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that was a part of Bang Tango so and Dave

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Elfson is a part of it and of stuff. And

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so he came back. He's like, hey, they want to

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look at songs. I go, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll cut

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a deal. I'll cut him a back end deal, you

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know what I mean. Let's just get some stuff placed

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and we'll worry about the finances later. And I said, hey,

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does he want us to write a song? So these

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so weren't rehearsal you go at the end of he goes, yeah.

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He said dud. He said he'd listen to it. So

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I'm like shit. Driving home.

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All the way home, I'm like, and it's a horror

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movie and I'm like as monster inside of me.

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And I was like, all right, cool, cool. I go home.

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My house is all quiet.

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I get on my piano and I I played notes,

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singing monsters. I wake up everybody in my house, therapists off.

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I send it to these three.

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Nothing not a hey that sucked, nothing, nothing, nothing so

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fast forwards the worst. The deadline's coming down into there, like, hey,

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we need to hear this song. So I call all

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these guys up and like mean, in the studio, I've

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got an idea, and we actually just recorded whatever the

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hell I.

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Had as an idea and it actually turned out pretty decent.

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I think you know that sometimes how it goes, Like

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me in the studio when I'm doing like a voiceover

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or something like that first take, I'll get it done right.

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If I don't get done right the first take, it's

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like the fiftieth take. Oh yeah, it's like it's gotta

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be that natural thing. That's the thing. It's like you

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just come and just don't even think about it and

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do it.

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We have hours and hours we always are recording, not

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in a studio, but like something to record ourselves, rere

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so wise, hours of songs and we'll we'll be in

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like a and what to like listen through and stuff.

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And I always say, if it didn't hiss, if lightning

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didn't strike the first time, it's probably not there right exactly.

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Every once in a while we might go to something

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and it's it's it's like a wrecking yard, be like, hey,

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that's cool, Hubcap, let's.

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Let's throw that on, you know, right, And it's funny

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you talked about James and Lars. So what do you

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think about the idea of when you have those issues

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going to band therapy.

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Well, he's already against marriage therapy, so he's definitely.

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Not going to band therapy, you know what I mean.

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This ain't paying the bills, and so he's definitely not

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going to therapy. But we figure it out because at

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the end of the day, we all go home to

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separate we go to separate homes, we're like peace out.

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Usually we do a show and if there's nothing coming

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up sooner, we don't see each other and talk to

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each other for a while, so until something comes up,

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and then we're like, well we better start rehearsing again,

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you know what I mean.

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And we just take time away from each other.

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That's good, you know, I mean any relationship.

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Oh yeah, And if if you could do that with

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the marriage, it probably be better, but that ain't gonna happen.

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But with us, with us, we do take that time

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off and where there was a couple whereas months where

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we wouldn't didn't even see each other, you know, along

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those ten years, But then we get back together and

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then everything kind of works its way and then we

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start gigging again.

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But yeah, it's the break.

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The break between a lot of stuff is what's helped

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helped us out, I think at the end of the day,

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and we don't need therapy.

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That is our therapy being away from each.

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Other, and that is therapy, it really is.

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But it actually makes us miss each other. You know.

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We we did a three shows in twenty four hours,

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one about we open up for Mega Death Nice, the

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second was a Harley Davidson dealership, and the third one

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was it was a part was a party between the

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the Harley Davidson dealership and the party, him and I

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just about killed each other to the point where we're

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in separate vehicles and my wife's going, oh my god,

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I can't.

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Believe you said all that stuff.

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And he's like and his wife is saying, oh my god,

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I can't believe you said all this stuff. And then

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literally my wife goes, what are you gonna do when

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you get to the venue? You know, to it was

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a private party at a venue, and I go, I go,

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I've known the guys for so long. He's either gonna

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come up to me and be like, are we done?

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And then you know, we'll kiss each other on the

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cheek you know, and the.

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That's it, that's it, you know what I mean, that's

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what it ended up happening.

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It sounds like, you know, me and my best bro

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he passed away last year, but we were best grows

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since thirteen, thanks, and we went to all the shows together.

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But a lot of times we would go shows. After

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the show, something would happen. I remember one story in

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particular where we just we stopped in the middle of

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gang territory. Van Eyes got out of the car and

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started physically funny throwing blows, you know, And then the

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next day we were going to another show.

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That's that's how it is.

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Though we were in rehearsal one day and I don't

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know what happened. Him and I have a great relationship

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as long as we're not talking about music or band, right,

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We're we're we're we're the sweetest kind of people. Then

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the tempers flare up, and when those two topics are up,

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we're in rehearsal, and it's a it's a fuck you,

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fuck you, fuck you, And I throw a symbol at

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him and I'm like fuck this, and he's just like.

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I'm gonna fucking beat your fucking car. I mean and

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we're like, oh whatever.

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And then I'm like, fucking I'm gonna go outside, and

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I'm I'm laughing with him. I'm like, oh that got heated,

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blah blah blah. And then he's wheeling the fucking amp

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out out of a rehearsal studio.

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Dad down the fucking ramp and and I'm like, where

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are you going. He's like, fuck this, I'm out, and

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I go wait a second.

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After thirty fucking years, that's what broke the camel's back,

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you know what I mean? Right, A simple as symbol

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to the head, you know what I mean, trying to

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hit each other with cars with that wasn't it. But

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it was just you know, I threw the symbol your

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your direction.

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Well, it's just because I knew I'd go to jail

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if I didn't walk out with my stuff right right.

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I want to hear your guys take when this is

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going on. It's almost like the kid of two parents

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getting divorced.

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I just I giggle. I just sit there and on

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my in my corner and I laugh.

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At each other. We just we just stop. So anyway,

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how you doing today? You know?

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And they're sometimes we have to talk a little louder

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because they're getting loud and when, yeah, when things start

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getting thrown, then you kind of look over to make

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sure you're not gonna get a hit. But he and

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I just we kind of ignore it.

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I wonder too, if that makes for a better live show,

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that raw, just the rawness that makes you like really

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kill it on stage.

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It feels that way when we're on stage, you know

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what I mean, because everything, like I said, the minute

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that injro tape starts, it's a whole different enough, you

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know what I mean. We're laughing and you know, and

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just one of us will suck up and be like,

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oh hey, buddy, it's you, you know what I mean,

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and then we just get moving.

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But this way, just there's been a lot of quiet moments.

459
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That's why we, like I said, there's a big break

460
00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:11.799
to each other.

461
00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:13.480
No, no, everything's good.

462
00:22:13.519 --> 00:22:16.160
We brought we brought up some feelings. No no, no, not

463
00:22:16.240 --> 00:22:16.519
at all.

464
00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:17.759
No, it just it's just fine.

465
00:22:17.920 --> 00:22:20.599
Thank you for the therapy you were mentioning, Yeah, this

466
00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:22.160
is the therapy.

467
00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:25.319
We were doing a lot of rehearsing up coming up

468
00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:27.680
to the show, so we were like, all right, I

469
00:22:28.119 --> 00:22:28.920
can't do any more.

470
00:22:28.960 --> 00:22:31.119
Rehearsals until Carlson walks back in his room.

471
00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:31.839
I'm done.

472
00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:35.440
Yeah, I mean, but no, there's really no harsh things,

473
00:22:35.480 --> 00:22:37.160
but there is some moments where you're pissed off.

474
00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:39.880
I mean, I think I'm gonna call this interview. I'm

475
00:22:39.880 --> 00:22:42.279
gonna title it some kind of chaos.

476
00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:46.160
There you go, there you go? Right, that's awesome.

477
00:22:46.359 --> 00:22:48.200
Oh man, that is good shit.

478
00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:48.519
Right?

479
00:22:49.319 --> 00:22:54.039
So rock Lahoma? How did that happen? How did you

480
00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:58.119
get invited to rock Klahoma? How did you get here? Well?

481
00:22:58.160 --> 00:23:00.680
I was sitting at home one day and I was like, oh,

482
00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:04.920
he handles all this kind of stuff well through Doug Burgess.

483
00:23:05.000 --> 00:23:08.400
The So we reached out with him to him three

484
00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:10.400
years ago, and you know, and to get picked I

485
00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:12.920
guess out of imagine he gets a lot of somebmittals.

486
00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:15.759
So and he just had happened to pick us that

487
00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:18.519
one time, and then again we skipped a year, and

488
00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:20.599
then last year he missed us, and then this year

489
00:23:20.599 --> 00:23:23.480
again I reached out to him and asked, you know,

490
00:23:23.519 --> 00:23:25.759
if he needed us again, and he's like sure. So

491
00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:27.960
it's it's cool, I mean to come out here. It's

492
00:23:28.519 --> 00:23:30.039
it's just good to get on the road and play

493
00:23:30.079 --> 00:23:31.759
your music. To other people, you know, I mean, you

494
00:23:31.799 --> 00:23:35.039
can only go so far sometimes without financial support and

495
00:23:35.640 --> 00:23:38.599
tough for younger bands, and and you know, so it's

496
00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:42.039
you know, it's just awesome. Doug Burgess is really who

497
00:23:42.039 --> 00:23:44.119
we got to thank for in the dB States for

498
00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:48.279
giving the bands opportunities that are not really you know,

499
00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:51.200
worldwide known and don't have a song on the record,

500
00:23:51.240 --> 00:23:54.720
and but he definitely gives the bands that are not

501
00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:57.400
as well known an opportunity to share the music, which

502
00:23:57.440 --> 00:23:58.160
is really really cool.

503
00:23:58.319 --> 00:24:02.240
I mean, I think it's totally well because listen, we

504
00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:05.759
a bunch of us were talking about this, like the

505
00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:10.079
big bands nowadays, they're on their way out, like and

506
00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:15.240
we need the new coming in so that the genre

507
00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:19.240
of rock, which includes everything on your shirt. Yeah yeah,

508
00:24:19.400 --> 00:24:22.599
rock is rock, it's all rock. For it to continue,

509
00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:25.839
you have to have new blood all the time coming in.

510
00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:29.920
I think now, especially more than ever that there's amazes me.

511
00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:31.960
I think of all these bands that I love that

512
00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:33.960
I saw while as a teenager and they were a

513
00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:40.039
teenager that they're like sixties, fifties, seventies up there, and

514
00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:43.039
these kids are into them. I remember being that age

515
00:24:43.400 --> 00:24:46.000
and it's like, fuck that if they're more than five

516
00:24:46.079 --> 00:24:48.039
years older than me. I'm not going into a show

517
00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:52.519
unless oh maybe Iron Maiden, you know. But other than that,

518
00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:55.920
it's like, oh, look, Metallica's playing. We're gonna go see

519
00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:58.400
them at the Troubadour, you know type of thing.

520
00:24:58.599 --> 00:25:02.519
My son, he's always you know, he's thirty one years old,

521
00:25:02.519 --> 00:25:04.839
and he's like, oh, you know, I'm hanging out with

522
00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:07.279
the Swirlies. I'm hanging out with you know, Sonic Youth

523
00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:10.000
and all that stuff. And I'm like, wow, man, that's

524
00:25:09.799 --> 00:25:10.960
that's so rad.

525
00:25:10.799 --> 00:25:11.759
Dude, that is rad.

526
00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:12.839
Right. Yeah.

527
00:25:13.160 --> 00:25:16.279
I put my son in his first mash Bit and

528
00:25:16.319 --> 00:25:19.960
I put my two of my grandsons in their first masha.

529
00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:20.440
Oh that's awesome.

530
00:25:20.640 --> 00:25:23.920
Yeah, and the look on their face, Like I remember

531
00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:27.279
my son. We were at Metallica's Tattooed the Earth tour

532
00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:30.640
and slip Knot was coming on. They were the opening band,

533
00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:33.200
and I said to him, listen, and this is how

534
00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:36.359
it goes. We're like dead center, up against the rail.

535
00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:39.720
I said, you're gonna drop back a little bit and

536
00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:43.039
people are gonna start pushing you. Don't get pissed. It's

537
00:25:43.079 --> 00:25:45.960
all in fun. And when it started and people were

538
00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:48.160
like shove him. I saw the look on his face

539
00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:51.640
like he was gonna punch somebody. I'm like, chill out,

540
00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:57.480
just relax. And then like two minutes later, this grin

541
00:25:57.640 --> 00:26:01.160
ear to ear like he got it, get hit. You know.

542
00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:05.200
I walked down like the baton has been passed. Man.

543
00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:08.880
He's been doing it ever since. And like I take

544
00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:12.440
him to festivals sometimes that he's almost forty, he's going

545
00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:14.960
in the pit with me. So it's cool.

546
00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:15.799
It is.

547
00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:18.000
It is because my dad would never die in a

548
00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:20.000
pit with me. It would be like, let's go to

549
00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:26.000
a Frank Sinatra show. Yeah, he does have a good voice,

550
00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:28.720
but you're not gonna pit in Frank Zochra for sure.

551
00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:31.799
So how do people reach out to you? On socials?

552
00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:32.559
On the web?

553
00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:34.359
Check everything out?

554
00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:37.799
You got collorcast dot Com, where across them all? Spotify, Apple,

555
00:26:38.440 --> 00:26:45.839
you know YouTube? We have you know Facebook, Twitter, h Instagram.

556
00:26:46.599 --> 00:26:47.799
We do have a TikTok page.

557
00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:51.440
TikTok. What are we doing on TikTok? Man? What we're

558
00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:54.039
gonna do the We do some dances in there.

559
00:26:54.480 --> 00:26:56.559
No, you know what, I I have the idea for

560
00:26:56.640 --> 00:27:01.519
your guys TikTok. There are arguments that would be the

561
00:27:01.559 --> 00:27:03.079
best TikTok right there.

562
00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:08.880
You know, you know, you know what we should do

563
00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:10.880
is do it as I love Lucy as as like

564
00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:12.839
pick one of those and like lip sinc it, you.

565
00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:13.920
Know, yeah, yeah yeah.

566
00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:21.119
It could be like the the color of chaos death matchamation.

567
00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:24.720
Do you remember that? Remember that thing on Celebrity death Match?

568
00:27:24.759 --> 00:27:24.960
Yeah?

569
00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:25.400
Yeah, yeah.

570
00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:29.599
I'm thinking that's how we should handle presidential elections from

571
00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:32.000
now on. Fuck the voting and the bullshit.

572
00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:35.200
Just let's back to them, go back to the coloseum

573
00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:36.000
one hundred.

574
00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:37.680
Percent, because the way we're doing now is kind of

575
00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:41.480
fucked and nobody's happy and we're all in the death match.

576
00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:44.400
Let's just let them have the death match and we

577
00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:48.200
all love each other and stuff. That's division bullshit exactly see.

578
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:50.359
And that's punk rock right there, you know what I mean?

579
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:54.960
And I gotta tell you something that you brought that up.

580
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:57.880
One thing that has been disturbing me for the past

581
00:27:58.279 --> 00:28:01.880
four years since when to punk rock, bey pro government?

582
00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:06.519
I want to know that I really want none of that.

583
00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:12.079
Tis right right flipping around to me.

584
00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:15.799
That's the color of chaos right there, right on right on.

585
00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:18.839
Anything else you got going on after Rock Oklahoma that

586
00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:20.519
you want everybody to know about.

587
00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:24.319
We're waiting for the movie to be completed where then

588
00:28:24.400 --> 00:28:26.400
the movie that Lance was in, and so we can

589
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:29.359
release our next single. Not We're gonna get into the

590
00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:32.599
studio and record something else and then we'll release that too.

591
00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:34.559
So yeah, just so if you can find us on Facebook,

592
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:37.119
just catch us there. We do, you know, updates and everything.

593
00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:39.319
We do. Got a couple of shows coming up in October,

594
00:28:39.799 --> 00:28:41.039
it's Phoenix and Tucson.

595
00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:43.720
But other than that, just we'll have that single out

596
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:44.920
hopefully before the end of the year.

597
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:47.319
And I'm all about artwork.

598
00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:50.960
And I fucking love this guitar pick that you just

599
00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:54.400
put on my table here. Okay, the artwork on this

600
00:28:54.559 --> 00:29:01.079
fucker is cool as Helle and I collect picks, yeah,

601
00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:04.920
for my guitar that I rarely play because I suck.

602
00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:13.759
Wow, this band is known for its guitar picks.

603
00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:20.599
That's fucking cool as hell too. Thats way cool, great

604
00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:21.920
guitar picks.

605
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:23.599
We recycles one.

606
00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:27.799
I love it because I think artwork's a big part

607
00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:30.759
of Oh we get another one too. I should say

608
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:37.240
that more often. Thank you. That's pretty cool. Okay, they

609
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:44.240
hate us because they ain't us. I love that you've

610
00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:47.640
made it. Then if you have haters, you've made it. Like,

611
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:51.359
I think that's what if you were to teach one

612
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:54.319
thing to a young artist, I think that's the thing

613
00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:55.000
to teach them.

614
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:58.119
You eat ship into somebody's talking shit about you on

615
00:29:57.960 --> 00:29:59.160
it on the internet.

616
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:04.960
You know, like, that's just it. My son, my son's no.

617
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:06.920
My son's kind of well known and stuff. And he

618
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:10.160
did something recently and got hate on there and I

619
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:12.920
called him up and I'm like, congrats, you fucking made

620
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:15.279
it your big time now, bro, you got haters?

621
00:30:16.279 --> 00:30:19.519
You know. I love like him or don't like him.

622
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:26.079
Ronnie Radkey's TikTok. He everyone. He attacks his haters and

623
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:29.599
his funniest shit cause he can do it on there

624
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:35.640
with it being entertaining instead of combating them. But he's combative.

625
00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:37.279
Yeah.

626
00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:41.000
So you know what's funny is is people have taken

627
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:43.079
out there where I could be like, fuck you and

628
00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:46.359
you're fine with it. Now everybody's not fine with it, right,

629
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:48.079
you know what I mean. They're like it was a

630
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:50.000
fuck you, and I'm like, no, it's like a fuck

631
00:30:50.119 --> 00:30:53.160
you exactly. You know, that's all it is. So I

632
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:56.039
come from New York, Dude, that was like the crosswalk lady.

633
00:30:56.119 --> 00:30:59.400
Fuck yeah, I'm born in New York, grew up in Jersey.

634
00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:01.599
If you didn't say that ten times a day to

635
00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:06.319
your friends, you were you were a poser and you

636
00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:08.200
did get your ass beat. As a matter of fact,

637
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:10.079
it's funny you should bring that up. And you would

638
00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:12.960
love this being from New York. So, I had a

639
00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:15.039
big mouth when I was a kid, but not a

640
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:17.720
big body like I'm big now compared to the way

641
00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:20.000
I was when I was young. And there was this

642
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:22.960
dude that was my next door neighbor. I never met

643
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:26.839
him seventh grade. He was as big as we are now, okay,

644
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:30.000
And I was mouthing off to him and he kicked

645
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:33.000
a living shit at me all over the parking lot.

646
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:36.359
My dad was watching out the window. Did nothing.

647
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:38.359
I walk in, and.

648
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:40.759
Because he grew up in the streets in Newark, so like,

649
00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:44.079
fight your way out of this fucking thing. And he

650
00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:46.599
goes to me, Yeah, I ain't doing anything because you

651
00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:49.160
deserved it. Let it be a lesson. Don't open your

652
00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:52.279
mouth unless you're ready to get your ass kicked. Yeah, exactly,

653
00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:55.200
you know, And that carried with me that my best

654
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:57.559
bro I was talking about. We used talk just like

655
00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:00.440
a couple of years ago, Like, don't you hate when

656
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:02.440
we used to go and get those fights knowing you're

657
00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:04.880
gonna get your ass kicked, but you did it anyway,

658
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:07.559
you know. It's just kind of the way it is.

659
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:09.079
Yeah, exactly.

660
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:11.279
So that's the color of chaos.

661
00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:12.440
Too. Awesome.

662
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:15.720
Thank you guys for being a rock plahoma and yeah,

663
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:17.640
thank you for being on the Adventures pipe Man.

664
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:19.440
All right, thank you, thank you, thank you.

665
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:24.720
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipement. I'm

666
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:27.920
w for CUI Radio.