Nov. 13, 2024

PipemanRadio Interviews Cristian Salamanca CHÜZO About New EP M.T.M.D.

PipemanRadio Interviews Cristian Salamanca CHÜZO About New EP M.T.M.D. released 10/26.
Montreal’s CHÜZO is set to drop their latest EP, M.T.M.D (Maximum Threshold, Minimum Decay), on November 15, 2024, pushing their brand of aggro-metal further into...

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PipemanRadio Interviews Cristian Salamanca CHÜZO About New EP M.T.M.D. released 10/26.
Montreal’s CHÜZO is set to drop their latest EP, M.T.M.D (Maximum Threshold, Minimum Decay), on November 15, 2024, pushing their brand of aggro-metal further into the spotlight.

With three hard-hitting tracks produced by Kevin Jardine (Slaves On Dope), the EP showcases the new CHÜZO lineup, now fronted by Brazilian vocalist Mischa M., alongside guitarist Cristian S. from Chile, drummer Carlos G. from Venezuela, and bassist Alex S. from Russia.

CHÜZO’s latest work channels a brutal blend of grindcore, Swedish death metal, and hardcore punk, a style that Cristian refers to as “Aggro Metal.” “The sound of the band evolved from, initially, grindcore, to hardcore, to now Aggro Metal. The evolution had to be this way because of the influence of certain early members that were pulling the sound of the band into a musical lane that was not the initial idea. Nonetheless, after the latest band member changes, this current lineup is focused on making the sound that we have developed on M.T.M.D. This is finally what CHÜZO was meant to sound like after many years and many ex-band members. This mark III version of the band is the final evolution in the sound of CHÜZO,” Cristian explains.

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So I want to welcome to the show. Chooseo.

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How are you doing well?

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How are you mister Pittman.

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I'm doing great, doing great, And man, I love this

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new music you have. You have a new EP drop

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in MTMD. And basically this is like the evolution of

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the band, I think to the final perfection.

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Am I right?

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That is the Yeah, pretty much, that's the That was

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the journey that had to happen for this album to

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come out, with the new members that were integrated just

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this year in twenty twenty four, and with the new enthusiasm,

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the new drive, and I don't know, the new vibe,

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it's just kind of coalesced much more. I know, it

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just felt much more cooler and much more, much more

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intimate to just write these songs and it came out

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and the result of this bill speaks for itself, I mean,

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and impressed us how we recorded it and how it

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came out. When our first impression. When later we had

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the first mix, as we were all like whoa, we

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were just recording and they were with us.

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We were surprised.

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I was surprised.

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Yeah, I love hearing that.

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Like, like finished rehearsing it like two weeks prior, so

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we had how it was going to sound. We never

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played it live either. Then we went to the studio

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and then we did it and there were some edits

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with the words and stuff that our producers just He's like, oh,

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it will be more impactful if you we could it

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this way, make it like hit it here, the rhythm here,

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And I was like okay, okay, And then we heard it.

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We were like.

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Nice, because, I mean, artists are our own worst critic,

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So if you come out of a recording and think

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it sounds good, that means it sounds really good.

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Yeah, we were pretty at least at least for me.

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I can always say this. I'm I'm deternal, fifteen year

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old angry metal kid that never grew up and so

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he's happy, and he gets the vibe and he gets

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like the he's like banging to it. Yeah, it's like, okay,

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jobs done, nice.

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I love it, and so tell me. And I think,

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you know, most bands have to that make it the

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long term have to do what has happened to you

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in the evolution, Like you go through a roster, you

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try to really find your sound, and then there's just

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that one combination. And I think that's like the magic,

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the chemistry combination of what you end up finding out

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and finding out about what you want the music to

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sound like, because at first, when you're fifteen playing, let's say,

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you may have an idea, but you don't really know.

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You know, it's kind of like you think it sounds cool.

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I like to look at somebody like Hetfield. He's absolutely

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embarrassed of his singing the beginning, you know, and like

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because he's like, I didn't know how to even sing.

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I had to learn how to sing, so, you know,

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and then other people that were into them, you know,

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they don't hear the difference. But as an artist, you

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become proud of your improvement and your evolution of an art.

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As an artist itself.

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I completely agree. I would like to Misha to answer

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first case, I think her evolution as a singer for

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me is much more interesting in the last six months

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than my evolution is a guitar player. But then her

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to answer first.

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Sure, Well, yeah, I feel like there was a lot

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of like fitting in what we were doing. Like we

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had to because like we have the backings right, and

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so we have to like blend those in a way

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that's not clashing. So we figured that out. So it

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is very different from what I was doing before. And

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I think even like working in studio and then working

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live and figure out what would work and like you know,

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just no tire out and not blow your voice out

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by the end of the show. That also helped a lot.

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Like so yeah, there's there was all that, and and

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like you said, I am definitely my biggest critic. I

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like I find like little.

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Nuances and be like, oh, man, I didn't pronounce this

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word properly, or like the timbre just sounds a bit different,

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and like remember we went back to Kevin and be like, oh,

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but this take sounds just slightly different, and everyone is

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like I can't hear the difference.

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I was like hello, but like, yeah, let's let's fix that.

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Let's fix that. So and I was listening to this

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in ten years and be like, oh, this part, this part,

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but right love you know.

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And that's so funny too, because like when I first

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started this network here eighteen years ago, my head engineer,

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we were like testing all the sound for the radio

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station stuff and he he's like, do you hear that?

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And I'm like no. He goes, we need to fix that.

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And I'm like, okay, I.

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Get that feeling, and ganging that exactly what that feeling is.

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There's a buzz there, there's a little like electric then

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going on, what is that? Where? Where is that coming from?

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And I'm screaming in the Kiev b and things like that.

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It goes on and.

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At least add on to the to the answer of

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what miche was saying and the evolution of the music

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at least. And I'm the last remaining member of all

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the previous UH incarnations. I always wanted to start a

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band that was much more rooted and metal, but I

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didn't mind more or less integrating some other elements such

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as hardcore such as Brian Corp. Unfortunately for some for

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for the previous members, it was more like they wanted

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to pull it towards hardcore and like, no, it's not

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what I want to do. And then they have to

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you know, they laughed and had to get some other

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members that were basically going, uh, to keep the project going.

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And what I want to say it with this is that,

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as you said, it takes some time to find the

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right person to gel and get the ideas going. And

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I think and for me, it was just get the

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right people, just believe in the riffs that I'm making,

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Believe the songs I'm writing. One big giant SHOTOWT to

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have to give is Godlos, our drummer who joined in

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the early twenty twenty three, and he's the guy who

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kind of I come up with, hey, I have a riff.

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I have no idea what to do with it. He goes, hey,

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we'll fix something out and he just and we we gel,

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We get the ideas down, and once we have that

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confidence of like, oh this work is good, this is

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not and we have the confidence to say, like it

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doesn't work this digit, we digit we write something better.

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It goes on like that and this this formation now

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with Misha who joined in around March and a little

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bit later Alex or bass player shout out to him

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as well, this this formation just gels. They get it

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and we all enjoy the jams. I heard so many

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times from the other members like this is like the

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the jam days of the day. I'm waiting for the most.

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It's like the ones on once a week and once

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our entire work weeks are done, is like, okay, jam day,

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we got to go and we have a good time.

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We have a good connection. And also, I think another

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thing that needs to be mentioned is sure you can gel

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well as musicians. Another completely different thing and very important

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it is to jealous people. Yeah, is twenty thirty percent

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of the whole thing. The rest is hang time. The

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rest is you know, let's talk about politics or how

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we disagree with it. Do Let's talk about religion, how

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we disagree with it. Let's know about food and I

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don't like Chinese, but she likes India, and it goes on,

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and it's the basic of.

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Just I think that's the most important part right there.

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I'm glad you brought that up because people don't realize that, like,

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and that is what I mean by geling, because as

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a band, you're spending like twenty four to seven with

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each other when you go on tour and do certain things,

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and like, if you're not getting along, you could be

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like you know some other people that happen lately, you know,

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just and I've seen it too. You could see you

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don't even have to get a fight. You could just

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see between people on stage whether they want to be

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with those other people or not. And that comes from

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the hang, not from the.

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Music exactly exactly.

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There's got to be mutual respect, and there's got to

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be at least the conviction that I know that the

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one thing I can ask from all my bandmates is commitment,

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and once that's there and I feel it, the rest

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is okay.

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I have to be amicable. I know that I have.

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Political differences with my drummer. Yeah, don't talked about it ever.

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And it's when I was like, that's not let's just

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keep with the music and talk about other things that

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we like, like football, how Venezuela sucks and chills great, Sorry

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that I said out loud, No, never mind, that's stuff

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like that. So I'm mischad. I'm pretty sure. And also

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in my case, this is my first time with a

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female bandmate, and the gem and the hang has been

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much more intense, much more cooler, and much more relaxed.

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Like we people, we like our metal. We enjoy what

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we play, and I think that's the key of it all.

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See that's really cool. See I like hearing all that too.

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And you know, talking about blowing out your voice before,

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Like I have to give you credit because first of all,

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you have a badass voice. But as somebody that sang

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thrash metal many years ago, I can't even do it

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anymore because I didn't know what the hell I was doing.

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And I did blow out, you know, my throat and stuff,

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and like try it and doing those growls like you do.

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Like it just blows my mind how somebody could do

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that for forty five minutes an hour or two hours

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or whatever, because I try to get through one song

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now and it's like tough.

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It's like eating chips with chili is and drinking all

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to all the bad things at once, I know, right

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and cigarettes.

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It's funny story. One of our previous shows, me and Misha,

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there's we went to a simple tour show like the

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last tour that they're coming around with me being a

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civil Touri fan since forever. Guess what I sang all

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the songs, blow my voice. I had a show two

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days after guess what happened, so I had to That

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was a show that I had to does a lesson learned,

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Like as much as like don't have shows that are

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too close together, and as I much I love civil too,

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I don't blow out your voice singing to the territory

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the entire song with every nuance, Like come on, Christian,

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you know you're not the teen anymore. You got you

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have responsibilities with your band, particularly voice, and at least

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on that aspect. From that point on, I've been much worse,

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much more strict with like when to screen, when not

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to scream, when to preserve my voice, when not to

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preserve my voice.

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It is, it's so funny you say that, because like

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I do. I go on tour and I do radio

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coverage at festivals, and I have to literally tell myself

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not to do certain things the first couple of days

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because literally, like subfestivals, if it's like one of my

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favorite bands, like the next day I'm doing I have

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like twenty interviews lined up and I have zero voice.

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Yeah, playing with other bands, because like I really like

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new music, so like I'm like Oh my god, they're

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so good. I'm really enjoying this and I want to

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like jump around and you know, and I was like, nope,

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I need to preserve my energy.

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Until we're done and then we can have fun.

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It's like even like when I do the festivals, Like

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first day at the festival, I'm like, uh, yeah, I

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don't think I should go in the pitt today the

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first day and be you know, damaged for the rest

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of the weekend.

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There's there there are priorities in life, especially if you're

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a metal head.

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Well yeah, and that priority is like, okay, so riot

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Fest first time in five years Slayer played.

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So I broke my rule.

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I broke my rule and like I had to be right.

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I had to be in that pit. I don't care

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what the results were going to be, you know.

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Forgivable, right, you're not fired.

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For the time.

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I was like, oh, this is like what Brio a Metal?

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Isn't that their first time they ever were in Brazil too?

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Maybe it was like in I don't know, twenty thirteen

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something like that. So yeah, yeah, it was awesome.

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I was destroyed. I was like, my life has been

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changed for the better.

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Right, Well, I you're gonna die. I went to the

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first Slayer show ever. So I've seen them, like, I

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don't know, at least a thousand times, and I still

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could see. There's some bands that you could see every

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single time, and then there's other bands like I've seen them, like,

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I'll go do festivals and they'll be the same headliner

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throughout the whole run, and I'll, you know, first time,

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I'll be excited, and then there'll be some for some bands,

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and then it's like, uh, I don't.

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Have to go to that set. I already saw the

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whole set, you know.

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And then there's other bands like Okay, I could see

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that every single day.

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Yeah, there's yeah, there are levels to this game.

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No doubt, one hundred. So speaking of like first gigs

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and stuff that got you into metal, both of you,

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what would you say the first live gig you ever

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went to that really got you into Oh my god,

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I'm a metal head for the rest of my life.

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Misha, Oh my gosh. Well, back then, I was like

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fourteen maybe, so it was a lot of power metal

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at the time. I saw like Symphony Eggs, I saw

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Spread Various, I saw Hammer Pall, and I had a

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lot of fun I saw moms too, and I was

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a kid, like I had no idea what I was doing.

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I would go by myself. I didn't have friends that

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would want to do that, but like I always had

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a good time and people were so friendly and they

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were like, oh, you're all here by yourself, like, oh,

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we could just lift you up so you can see

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the show better. Oh, And I was like, oh, that's

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so nice.

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And that was it.

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I started collecting shirts, which is like a like a prize,

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you know.

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I was like, right, totally, yeah.

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It's just like no, I want to keep this forever.

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And so yeah, that's where I started back then. I

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also saw all the new formation of Angra back then

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and they had that free show, and that also just

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blew my mind.

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Yeah, you know, it's funny too because like, so I

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was talking about this with one of my friends at

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s BAN after done to an interviewer sitting bullshit, and

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then we're talking about you know, like we had talked

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about in the interview, about how metal heads really are

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opposed to what people think we are. Yeah, and then

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afterwards he's like, yeah, maybe we should edit that out.

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We don't want everybody knowing that, you know, we're nice

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and welcoming.

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You know, we might keep up that image, you.

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Know, but it is the metal family, like there is

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no other family like that in music there is, and

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it is nicest people. I'll tell you a funny story

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and it will relate to your point there. So one

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year I had two festivals happening at once I had

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to cover, and obviously I couldn't be at both. So

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this girl that was working for me, she was a

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country girl, and so I recruited her to go cover

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this festival. And she had never even been to a

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rock show, much less a metal show, okay, And so

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I kind of explained to her, I'm like, listen, it's

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not like a country show where you got a bunch

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of rednecks get drunk and fighting with each other. Even

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though you would think that because there's a mosh pit,

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you're gonna find that.

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You're gonna go there. It's a big family.

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There are no fights for the most part, and you'll

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probably meet your new boyfriend, and you'll probably make a

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bunch of new friends and all that, and you'll have

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to time of your life. And she was kind of

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scared about it, you know, not you know, not gonna

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lie like most people that are not metal heads going

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to a metal show, you know. And she comes back

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after the weekend, she's.

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Like, oh my god, you're so right.

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I got all these new friends and this new boyfriend

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and this favorite new band of mine.

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I don't know if you ever heard of them. They're

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called Bring Me the Horizon. And I just laughed, you know,

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like I was like, see there it is like, and

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you know, it is so true.

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You go to a metal gig and it's somewhere like

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the Lincoln Park song, somewhere you belong, like all of

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the people that are the outsiders are on the inside

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at a metal show.

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Yeah, and that's that's how I feel as a metal guy.

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To answer previous question might just middle of I know,

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I don't want to flex, but whatever. Nineteen ninety eight,

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Santiago ChIL Pantera, caught dying by spas Enough said nice

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to get onto the question. Yeah, No, I cannot be

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in a hardcore band because I got zero credibility in hardcore.

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I have never had the excess in my hand. Never

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I respect it. I know what the hardcore scene is.

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I cannot be in the black metal scene because I

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got zero credibility. In that I never burn a church

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or never stepped nobody.

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Never.

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I don't know the stereotypes of goal with it. I've

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always been the angry Subletuta loving Pantera, chuggy, riffing, fear Factory, Bluchhetia,

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Dino Cassyrus inspired kind of kid that carried that throughout

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the years. And I'll be honest as a metal guy,

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I kind of I'm a very big representative of my

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generation and anything that came after was some of some

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of it I liked, but I straight up skipped twenty

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five to twenty thirteen. So whatever that had like little

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hair tight jeans, the verb, the noun banzie, I was

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a poison the well, unlocking the truth, this, this and that,

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like the whole skip that and then I just regained

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my inspiration by all these bands that are just like

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you know, nineties worship HM two and Tune Fear Factory,

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simple Buddha like MaTx, carolere Is. I think more popular

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now than he ever was in an entire career, I know, right,

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And it just comes down to thinks like I was right.

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I was right, you know, the riff thing that the

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beach uning, just that's who I am That's how I

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represent myself in the in the riffs I write, and

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I'm glad I have bandmates like Misha, who is from Brazil,

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who understands that that that attitude understands the whole metal thing.

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She has into power metal. I wasn't much more to

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the grindcore and death metal. We met in the middle.

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We made agro metal, and that's where we love and

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that's where we stay, and that's where we're pretty at

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least in my sense, I can say I'm pretty happy

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writing songs and collaborating with the musicians that I have

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because the songs that we're coming out right now are

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just more than inspiration. I mean again, the fifteen year

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old kind inside of me is just banging his head

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like all day long with the songs that we write,

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and like that's that's something that kind of I gotta

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put myself like against, like when I'm listening to it, like, Okay,

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you didn't write this, This is not somebody else wrote

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this and just pretended somebody else wrote this and said, Wow,

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this is freing cool. Get that vibe and just nice.

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It's the fire inside of the metal kid that never dies.

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I don't know what to say, I love it and

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I'm glad because the next thing I was gonna ask

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about is what is agro metal, because that's something that

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you referred to of what your band is now.

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So tell the listeners what that.

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Is agro metal. First, I'll be honest with the term.

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In the nineties, living in Chile, right on the cusp,

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when new metal blew up, like nineteen ninety six Corn's

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first album, death Tones for ninety seven death Tones first album,

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then the other ones that came after, and it is

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like the whole transition from radio rock brunch into like

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more new metal esque quote unquote. In Chile, somebody came

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up with the term, oh this is and just like

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and then Eric caught on. I do remember the nineties

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some TV shows and some movies referring to like, oh dude,

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you're getting to agro chill with the agro the term

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it says, caught on. So that died out. Eventually that

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became new metal, and the wave came and went, and

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as time passes by, I'm trying to get trying to

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get a show in the Montreal scene with my band

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choose what what are you? And same say death metal

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this and done that, some bands here would make their

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own moniker and a ridiculous sounding like moshcore, uh new gaze,

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and I'm just going all right, fuck it, we're agro

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metal because yes we have grind coore tendencies. Yes I

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love Swedish death metal. I'm gonna mix them both. We

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got thrash inside. It's just the blend of all the

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aggressive sounding riffs that we can think of into one

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package called Chooso with the soaring vocals of Misha. That

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represents exactly what I've always wanted this band to sound like.

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When when it comes to like expressing the angry lyrics

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should be expressed away. It should be that she does

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on the on top of the you know, on top

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of the layers of riffs that I have. So that's

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one more or less. What agro Medal is is just

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aggressive riffs, rindcorep death metal, your favorite ones. Ok, here

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you are, I choose him nice.

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I love it.

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And then you know what I thought of instantly, which

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is funny. You know, Paris, It's so funny that you

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are still related to hardcore because Paris is new band

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front is called agros or it's been new bands.

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Yeah right, so.

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Yeah, yeah, so I was like, it's so funny because

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as you were talking and even when I first saw that, uh,

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you know, it's so funny because even though like what

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you were saying about hardcore, somehow I got related agro

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metal to hardcore because of Paris.

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Yeah, yeah, I remember seeing those in our jam SPU.

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There's a flyer agro is playing in Montreal ex members

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of PROMA. That's interesting and I'm thinking, no one's like,

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no one's no one's like listening to me and ship

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like okay, some great minds think alike when I see

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things like when stuff like that, like, that's my that's

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my best explanation.

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I love it.

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So tell everybody how they reach out to you guys

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on socials, on the web, how they get the new EP,

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buy your merch tour date, it's all that good stuff.

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Yeah. We're mostly on band camp and Instagram. So at

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Chooso dot band where you can look for Chooso Montreal

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kind of easy to find. That's pretty much it. We

449
00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:53.000
have merched there, we have yeah, we have the downloads there.

450
00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:56.640
We were on Spotify. We're all on all platforms so

451
00:23:56.839 --> 00:24:03.960
Apple Music anywhere, these as sound Cloud. It's no hard YouTube.

452
00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:07.799
Yeah, and your socials how they fund you on socials.

453
00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:10.160
Mostly Instagram at Chooso dot band.

454
00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:13.839
Okay, also too, yeah.

455
00:24:13.240 --> 00:24:16.640
Also we got Unfortunately, I think for the as of

456
00:24:16.680 --> 00:24:18.839
year ends, we probably not gonna have any more shows

457
00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:20.920
for twenty twenty four, but we are packing shows for

458
00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:25.920
twenty twenty five, and so thank you so much for

459
00:24:25.960 --> 00:24:26.680
this opportunity.

460
00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:31.119
Mister Pointman, Oh my pleasure, and I'm glad you'd.

461
00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:33.079
Like the songs. And before you, before you this hands,

462
00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:34.799
can I just ask you something like I kind of

463
00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:36.519
asked this to everyone kind of listens to my music

464
00:24:36.599 --> 00:24:39.960
or to our music. If you're just a regular riff

465
00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:42.599
rock guyde whatever, and you just listen to the radio,

466
00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:44.519
not much into the music, but you appreciate the culture

467
00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:46.640
or whatever, and you hear choose it for the first time,

468
00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:47.680
what would be your first reaction?

469
00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:49.119
Brutal?

470
00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:51.519
Thanks?

471
00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:54.880
Thank you so the way.

472
00:24:54.880 --> 00:24:57.960
I love the riffs and I love the thrash component

473
00:24:58.039 --> 00:25:01.039
of it because that's like I love all my but

474
00:25:02.119 --> 00:25:05.279
I'm thrash first, because which gives me.

475
00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:06.960
Okay, I have a trivia question.

476
00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:14.680
Okay, what thrash metal band was originally considered power metal

477
00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:17.119
because there was no such thing as thrash metal.

478
00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:34.000
I want to say envill Nope, ooh, I don't.

479
00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:35.039
Don't want to just guess.

480
00:25:36.359 --> 00:25:39.119
I'll be just like guessing they're shooting Darks. I'll get Exodus.

481
00:25:39.400 --> 00:25:42.119
No, you were close, you were close. But I'll tell

482
00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:45.640
you a story to answer the question. Okay, So I

483
00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:49.839
went to this other band's first show ever and the

484
00:25:49.880 --> 00:25:52.680
guitarist came off stage. I think I was like fifteen

485
00:25:53.240 --> 00:25:56.240
guitarists came off stage and started talking to me, because

486
00:25:56.279 --> 00:25:58.880
that's what happened back then, you know, like that's always

487
00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:02.880
what happened. And and he handed me his business card

488
00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:07.200
and it said Metallica power Metal.

489
00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:08.839
Dave Mustain.

490
00:26:12.680 --> 00:26:15.559
A great story that, right.

491
00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:21.920
Like, could you ever think of them being considered power metal?

492
00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:24.319
You know, like I think it is cool if you

493
00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:25.680
have a business card.

494
00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:30.839
I know, right, that's so cool. Damn can you imagine.

495
00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:33.759
And that's back in the time where they didn't have

496
00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:36.880
stuff like that, and you know, it's the tape trading

497
00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:38.480
days and.

498
00:26:38.400 --> 00:26:40.200
So like, to have a business card.

499
00:26:40.519 --> 00:26:46.079
It just proved that Dave and all of them, probably Lars,

500
00:26:46.119 --> 00:26:48.359
all of them were just business people right from the

501
00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:52.440
get go. You know, musicians first for sure, but you

502
00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:54.440
do have to be a business person to make it

503
00:26:54.480 --> 00:26:58.559
as big as that in the music business, especially nowadays.

504
00:26:58.599 --> 00:27:01.480
I think then of the value of what they were doing.

505
00:27:01.839 --> 00:27:04.680
We knew that they were above their cut, above the

506
00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:07.759
mediocre stock of whatever, the thrash metal, power metal era,

507
00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:12.000
metal era of their time. Yeah, it's I think it's

508
00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:15.400
just musicians magicians confidence, Like that's that's what I feel.

509
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:17.160
That's what I feel like when when I hear stuff

510
00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:20.079
like that, here, here's my card, We're power. I'm being mistaining.

511
00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:24.519
Well, even the even the other bands that they were

512
00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:28.640
like with at the time, you know, the Anthrax, the Slayers,

513
00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:31.640
the Exodus, the and all them, like I'm friends with

514
00:27:31.759 --> 00:27:33.480
love of them because of back in the day, and

515
00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:38.559
they all used to say, like Metallica had something special.

516
00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:41.519
When they were all sleeping on a floor in one room,

517
00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:45.880
like four bands, they all knew the one that was

518
00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:47.799
gonna make it big was Metallica.

519
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:51.799
That's a cool feeling, that's a cool right, right, So that.

520
00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:54.319
That may be part of it, you know, maybe some

521
00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:56.559
of the things that people make fun of Laws for

522
00:27:57.079 --> 00:28:01.559
that makes them so big like that, because listen, I

523
00:28:01.640 --> 00:28:03.920
think everybody should give him some credit. He was right

524
00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:08.519
about uh napster. Yes, that's where we are now, like

525
00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:09.680
everybody should listen.

526
00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:11.279
Yeah, it was right.

527
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:14.359
You know, it's hard to be what's the word in

528
00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:19.720
there's a there's a saying in Spanish the West, which

529
00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:21.440
means you can't be a profit in your own land.

530
00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:24.880
You have to you know, slowly, get get your get

531
00:28:24.920 --> 00:28:27.000
to get people to agree with the idea, and you know,

532
00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:29.039
and and you're right, and you're right. And it took

533
00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:31.079
a long while. I don't lived through those the year

534
00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:33.880
two thousands and all that when everybody was making fun

535
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:36.240
of Lars, South Park made fun of Lars, and yeah,

536
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:39.119
it was and it kind of coming to a plant like,

537
00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:42.319
you know, this whole free thing, this whole napster thing,

538
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:45.920
this whole parrot parent parrot Bay thing. I don't even

539
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:49.119
remember the freaking website. Yeah, and it's it's gonna collapse,

540
00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:52.200
It's gonna collapse. It's good eventually, it's good. It doesn't

541
00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:54.440
make sense to basically have your music out for free

542
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:55.920
if no one's gonna be making money off of it.

543
00:28:56.000 --> 00:29:00.599
And there's there's this kind of like stupid mentality of

544
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:03.119
the whole sellout and not sello things like guys and

545
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:03.519
I was.

546
00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:06.000
Like that as a teenager, but you know what, you

547
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:07.799
get to be an adult and you realize it's not

548
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:10.839
really selling out, because how are you going to keep

549
00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:13.480
playing and keep going on if you're not making money

550
00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:17.480
and you're not you're not relevant at all because you're

551
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:21.440
not selling out. Like I remember when they came out Listen,

552
00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:23.599
when they came out with the Black album, I was

553
00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:25.759
one of those original twenty five fans. I was like,

554
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:30.000
fuck THEAMN, a bunch of sellouts, you know, posers, blah

555
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:33.640
blah blah. But at the end of the day, listen,

556
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:35.960
there's still one of my favorite bands. It was just

557
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:39.839
me being young and stupid and like we all are

558
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:43.200
in the beginning, you know. But the Botmob line is

559
00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:46.480
as I think, and that brings me to like, maybe

560
00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:49.160
don't think that way. Maybe support your favorite band so

561
00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:52.079
they can keep playing and keep going because it is

562
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:55.200
not an easy industry number one, number two. There is

563
00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:57.920
no money in it anymore. There's not that rock star

564
00:29:58.119 --> 00:30:01.759
thing like it used to be. And you know, like,

565
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:04.920
if they're giving you, making you feel good, giving you

566
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:07.799
good therapy, don't they deserve to at least be able

567
00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:11.599
to live a decent lifestyle. And so they're not sell outs.

568
00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:15.000
They're just doing what they gotta do, exactly. I totally

569
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:16.480
completely with that, mischa.

570
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:19.519
Yeah, that's why, like every time we go to a show,

571
00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:22.680
like Okay, let's go see live music, let's buy merge,

572
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:26.559
you know, let's do all that. Like, and it's like

573
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:29.720
you said, it's a business. You have to promote things like, uh,

574
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:32.039
it's not. The music doesn't just.

575
00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:35.519
Go out there by itself, right, compeat it to the

576
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:39.000
algorithm first, you know, and all that. It's all part

577
00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:39.200
of it.

578
00:30:39.839 --> 00:30:43.400
Yeah, and you know, I mean the thing is is

579
00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:45.880
like even like when I go shows and I see

580
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:48.759
people buying the shirts outside, I'm like, don't do that.

581
00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:51.160
I'll go, I'll walk right up to the people, like,

582
00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:54.440
don't do that. The band's not getting anything out of that,

583
00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:59.559
they're getting ripped off, you know. And yeah, maybe T

584
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:02.720
shirts are more expensive nowadays because it's a lot of

585
00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:04.400
people have their hands in the putt, but that's the

586
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:05.400
only way the artist is.

587
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:06.839
Going to be able to get to the next show.

588
00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:08.720
So by the merch, that's my thing.

589
00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:12.359
Yeah, that's how we that's how you show support exactly.

590
00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:18.200
Well, you guys definitely are badass, and uh, I hope

591
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:22.079
to see you live too, and uh.

592
00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:24.799
We're making all the work to get there. Trust me,

593
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:26.680
we're doing all the hard work to get there.

594
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:29.759
See you guys get on these US festivals or you know,

595
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:32.559
you gotta play at Hell Fest.

596
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:37.160
Oh that's that's the dream, dude, that's the dream.

597
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:40.240
Now the only festival, one of the only festivals. There's

598
00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:42.240
a few, but one of the only festivals I haven't

599
00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:45.480
done yet or attended was the Rock and Rio And

600
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.759
every artist I've talked to that's like one of their

601
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:53.599
favorite festivals. So I have to look into that one

602
00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:58.400
because apparently you guys in Brazil go nuts at that festival.

603
00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:01.720
Oh yeah, we're so passionate, that's what. That's one thing

604
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:04.359
I always say is like, why why are we more

605
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:06.680
passionate than everyone else?

606
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:10.039
Why are we like giving our blood, sweat and tears

607
00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:10.960
at every concert?

608
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:12.920
Why is it so meaningful for us?

609
00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:15.720
And how how do we draw?

610
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:18.480
You know, how do these bands draw like four hundred

611
00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:23.480
thousand people like I know, right, City of Rock, you know,

612
00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:24.599
and other acts.

613
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:26.680
But I don't question it. I just accept it.

614
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:29.920
There you go. So, yeah, you guys will have to

615
00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:31.119
play rock and Reo.

616
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:35.799
To We just got contact there apparently, don't you.

617
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:40.960
I know people who played there, so we'll get there.

618
00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:45.000
Okay. Well yeah, thanks a lot for the for the interview,

619
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:47.160
and thanks a love for being honest about you know,

620
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:49.160
the music that we're making. If you think it's brutal,

621
00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:51.119
that's that means the world to us for sure.

622
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:53.519
Yeah, and I've found I'm the type like you know,

623
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:55.400
I'm a true metal head. If I don't like the music,

624
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:57.960
I can't do the interview. I don't understand some of

625
00:32:58.039 --> 00:33:00.400
these other press people that don't even like me and

626
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:03.359
do interviews, Like how can you do a metal interview

627
00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:05.200
without having the passion for metal?

628
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:09.599
Some people, Man, what can I say? Just take it

629
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:10.599
till you make it, I suppose.

630
00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:14.039
Yeah, so I'll never tell you it's brutal if it's

631
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:16.960
not brutal, and brutals like one of the best compliments

632
00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:17.599
I could give.

633
00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:19.839
You so much.

634
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:24.480
You guys rock and all my listeners and they need

635
00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:27.839
to go out and support you. Check out the new album,

636
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:30.720
merch all that stuff, or they can't listen to my show.

637
00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:34.079
And thanks for being on the advent here's a pipe man.

638
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:35.759
Thank you so much.

639
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:38.240
Yeah, thank you so much for having us here.

640
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:40.039
My pleasure.

641
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:42.720
Thank you man, Thank you.

642
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:46.480
For listening to the adventures of pipe Man.

643
00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:50.519
I'm w for CUI Radio.