July 21, 2025
PipemanRadio Interviews Dark Devine at Inkcarceration 2025
We are at Shawshank Prison aka Ohio State Reformatory for the 2025 Inkcarceration Music & Tattoo Festival. Dark Devine is playing and came backstage in the Press / Artist Lounge to talk with Pipeman Radio of W4CY Radio about what it is like to perform at such an iconic location where Shawshank Redemption was filmed. This closed down prison is known to be haunted so when you go to Blood Prison who knows what will happen.
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Hi, you love them too?
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Yes, that's true. Wow, Crazy Young.
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Incarceration America's Rock, Metal and Tattoo Festival.
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It is the pipe Man here on the Adventures of
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Pipe Man W four C Y Radio, and I'm here.
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With Anthony Martinez of Dark Divine.
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Robbie Lynch from Dark Divine, and man, you guys look
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fucking cool?
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Are you as good as you look? Cool? Fuck?
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No, that's how we do it. What do you mean
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this is a front? We don't even know how to
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play our instruments.
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Right right.
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Actually, I think nowadays it's kind of upfront, so people
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don't bug the crap out of you.
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When you're not playing. That's the way I would think
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of it.
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Like for me, I have had moments where like even
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at the last show we were playing in Michigan, I
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was in makeup in my and I was like meeting
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fans of course, and then I took the makeup off
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and I was just kind of having a stroll and
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it was like no one bothered me, know, and like
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came up to me or anything called my mom.
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It was great.
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Well, It's like I've hung out watching shows with Chris
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Motionless after his set and he has no makeup on. Yeah,
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and we'll laugh. I'll laugh, especially because we're standing there
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and nobody knows it's him.
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Oh yeah. It's good to be able to like put
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it on and take it off as.
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Needed, right, you know, because then you could go out
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and do your thing and just like be part of
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the crowd and.
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No one knows it was you.
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Yeah exactly, there you go.
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That's like the beauty.
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Of doing the full face pain. At least for myself
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and our bass players. We just wipe it all off.
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Nobody knows it's us if we walked through the crowd.
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Yeah exactly. It's like Gwar.
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I've interviewed them without their costumes and makeup, and then
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I saw him afterwards, like at the bar and nobody
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knows yor there. I'm like, I go up and whisper.
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I'm like, you guys should put the costumes back on.
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You look a lot better.
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So the contacts yours are fucking Like, why.
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Like them all these out of my eyes?
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Well, that's what I was gonna ask, man. I mean,
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like I used to wear context to see and I
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hated it, Like how you even see those?
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I was gonna say, it's ironic you say that because
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we put them in and we can't see. Really, it's right,
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it's I mean, we can see, but it's just it.
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I have a very limited like I don't have peripheral vision.
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I know.
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We used to both wear at one point in our lives.
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These like opaque kind of shielded.
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They're very messy.
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Yeah, and like it's as soon as stage lights hit them,
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you go blind and it's the worst feeling in the world.
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Yeah, I bet.
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Actually during one set, we were playing in our hometown,
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Saint Pete, in my hometown Saint Pete, and I had
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to rip the contacts out of my eyeballs midseet.
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Oh. I believe I couldn't see anything because it was
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that hot.
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Yeah, yes, sweat gets underneath the context.
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I'm from South Florida, so I'm like, where fuck would
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you do that?
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And that heat?
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I lived near West Palm in my studio is in Wellington.
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If you know where Wellington is.
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I'm not familiar with, but it's near West Palm. Yeah,
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we played a respectable street.
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It's one of my favorite places. Now I'll have to
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find out the next time you're playing there. If I'm
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in town, I'll have to catch you there because I
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love last Venue was that cool as help laying that.
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Been really close forever ago we were on tour with
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Until I Wake Okay, and yeah, just everybody there was
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super friendly and it was a really cool time.
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Yeah, it's funny because I like the Tampa venues a
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lot better, except for respectable like Fort Laurerdale venues. I
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don't even like the work of mouns Media like cause there,
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I don't like them. But when I go up to Tampa,
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it's like, you guys up there welcome people with open arms.
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All the crazy people go to Tampa. I feel like
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it's a really good, rich music scene. All the craziness
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goes into the music and it's right.
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It's just like and nobody wants.
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Nobody wants to come our away because it's so far away.
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So it's like, okay, well say we've been in Florida,
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we'll go to Tampa.
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There you go.
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For the longest time, I associated Tampa as South Florida,
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And it wasn't until I started tourning that I was
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just sort of like, oh, there's more South.
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It's like, I keep going, it's crazy, it's more land.
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Totally Like, yeah, I don't like to come down our way,
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because unless you have gigs all the way through the state, that's.
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A long drive down to go right back up.
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And we've done it.
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We were on tour with Crown the Empire and we
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went clear down to Fort Lauderdale and it was just
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to come right back up and go.
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I think it was Georgia or something.
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And it's the most boring drive too, Like to drive
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from ninety five up Florida, you see nothing.
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I always hate passing my house because like, like just
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knowing full well, I could take a day off and
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go to my bed.
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I live in Orlando. He lives in Saint Pete's.
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So we always whenever we play, like Fort Lauderdale or
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West Palm, we always drive past our houses and it
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just again it leaves a bad taste in our mouth,
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knowing we could have a pillow I we're familiar with.
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So how about this so fucking shaw Shank prison? Is
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this bad ass to be an incarceration?
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Absolutely beautiful?
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I mean, like I do all the festivals, I go
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into her I just got back from Europe doing festivals there,
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and my daughter, she always calls me.
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Before festival, So you excited about this festival?
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I'm like, well, I've been doing the same festival for
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years and I do it every week, So I don't
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know if exciting is it, but I love it and
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it's fun. The first time I did this festival, I
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called her up. I'm like, I'm calling you from the
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prison yard of Shawshank Prison.
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It's a different vibe.
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I mean, as soon as you like drive up, you
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see the prison and you're like, okay, this is like
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there's some history here, there's some entertainment here.
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It's like a different vibe.
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So you know, a Killer's Confession is playing this festival
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this year. And Waylan, when I interviewed him a few
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years back here, he told me about they filmed a
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video in the torture room, like because they used to torture
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prisoners here, like this prison is really haunted. Yeah, and
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he said when he got out of the room after
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filming the.
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Video, we had like scratches all over his body.
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No shit.
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Trip.
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That's kind of a dream for us is to sort
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of tour haunted locations and just make sort of pop
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up shows within those haunted locations.
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Nice and something like that here, I feel like would
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be amazing.
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I mean, well, obviously we're doing the festival here, but
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even a more intimate show inside the cell block, like.
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In a cell in a cell would like I took
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pictures of me like taking a crap on Red's toilet
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or whatever, you know, and stuff like that toosed I know,
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right here and here is what you would have fun with.
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What I did one year is I had my helper.
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I'm like, okay, We're gonna do some tiktoks. I'm gonna
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hide in certain areas while people are going on the tour.
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So I did my own thing and they would come in,
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they'd look in and I'd fucking scared the ship out
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of them, and like they had not because there's like
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the wall and stuff like that. Well, you know, you
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can get arrested in this prison, do you know how
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there is?
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Oh, there is an actual detention center out we did
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the tourlet right there and yeah, it was like an
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actual prison.
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So upstairs in the prison there's a window.
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Yeah, and it.
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Has a sign right there if you take a picture
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to fellony, up to five years in prison because it's
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the direct onto the prison yard. So like it's like
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you're planning an escape. Oh that's interesting, right, We even
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got that in media because originally media was going to
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be back there, which is closer. And in the media
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letter it said don't take any pictures, which.
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Begs the question. But they just keep you where you are.
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You know, you're in a prison already.
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I know, right for five years exactly. But then it's
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cool for bands like you.
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You could be like Johnny Cash could sometimes the inmates
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are out in the yard and you're playing to them.
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Being at discs, that's a.
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Really cool to be able to hear music in general,
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just like right, I can only imagine. I've never been arrested,
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but I can only imagine it's not as there's not
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a lot of music going around and a lot of
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live music.
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So I'm sure some stuff like this is really a
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nice treat.
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Yeah, imagine you're locked up and you write home to
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your family.
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Oh it's so cool.
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Today Incarceration Festival was here and I got to listen
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to the whole thing.
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Art Divine Band played. I don't know who they are,
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I don't like.
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Them, but they were really bad ass. I'm really glad
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we got to hear them.
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Sounded like they wear a stupid makeup.
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In fact, when I got out of here, they might
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be my next victims.
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Yeah, there you go, if we don't get.
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To them first, right, there you go.
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So for our listeners have never heard your music, how
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would you describe your music?
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And I don't mean genre because that's bullshit.
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No. Yeah, I would say if you've ever been to
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a Haunts, if you've ever been to Halloween horrnites, we're Orlando, Like,
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we hang out in Orlando, I live in Orlando. Were
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very frequent Halloween horrnites, right, visitors. I would say the
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soundtrack to that is kind of.
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The vibe we try to give off. We're avid horror lovers.
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We're very big Halloween fans in general, and we've just
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crafted our identity.
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Anytime we weren't talking about music.
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When we first started the band, it was always just
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horror movies, Halloween, Halloween horranites, spooky culture all around, going
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to conventions and it's just a love of that culture
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and that, just like Universe, it just kind of spawned
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our band. And yeah, we're just we're spooky kids who
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make music for spooky kids.
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See now you gave me an idea, like if you
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play a festival or a tour with Ice nine Kills,
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you could come out and scared of shit at Spencer
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and try to you know, we.
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Were just on tour with them not so long ago,
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and yeah, it's a good idea if we ever do
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it again, I off to try.
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It, Like you see, you should have done that, just
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like randomly just run out on the don't.
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Be a sure way to get kicked off a tour,
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I know right, you'll have to prep it with Spencer
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ahead of time. But make it look like you just
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ran out on stage and attacked him, scream at him.
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Know it happens precaution of the wind. That's how that's
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Halloween Horror Nights, Man, that is the most badass like anywhere.
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is the most badass anywhere. They should have you guys,
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