Oct. 13, 2024
PipemanRadio Interviews Edsel of Dope at Aftershock 2024
Pipeman has a great discussion at Aftershock 2024 with Edsel of Dope about current tours, new music, and with some reminiscing stories on The Pipeman Radio Tour. I loved how much respect and honor he paid to Wayne Static of Static X and we discussed a...
Pipeman has a great discussion at Aftershock 2024 with Edsel of Dope about current tours, new music, and with some reminiscing stories on The Pipeman Radio Tour. I loved how much respect and honor he paid to Wayne Static of Static X and we discussed a little bit about X performing with Static X.
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white Man.
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Yes, somebody's asking I call oh why Yeah, somebody's backing
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that doll two says someone's love me lisay by Stidy.
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Maybe I'll wait you back one day.
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about me. I'll there yo, guys the other nest side.
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Maybe he'll not fight.
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Maybe this is the pipe Man here on the Adventures
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pipe Man W four c y Radio.
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And I'm here with Ed Soul from the band Dope.
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Nice here at after Shock after Shock.
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It is northern California. It's a beautiful day and lots
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of weirdros.
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That's the way you want festival, right, it's.
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Probably what two hundred thousand freaks here today?
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Probably about that all my closer friends. Yeah, my guessterday
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was my birthday. I said. I had a birthday party
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with two hundred thousand my closest friends.
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Pretty good birthday, no doubt. Did you get cake?
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No?
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No, cake, I got weed. Okay, good for you.
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So one of the interviews I did, Moonshine band that's
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say came over and they brought weed and bourbon. Nice
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pretty interview.
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That's a good day.
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So that's a good interview.
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Yea, it's a good one.
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Thank I was the last one.
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You probably forgot the whole thing already, oh of one hundred.
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But it was funny, Okay, listen.
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To it tomorrow. You hope it was funny.
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Yeah, it sounded funny the first time. But then listen
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to it Toronto. Oh shit, fuck.
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It happens.
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Oh man, So how did it feel?
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Well?
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What an honor to come into this festival, because Cold
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Chamber is not here, first of all. More so I'm
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in awe of you that you not many artists would
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be able at the last minute just jump in and
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do a festival.
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More professionals, dude, see nothing to it. No, it was cool, man,
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Like Dope is a very interesting band where you know,
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the last several years, I just I haven't overplayed this band, like.
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I have a lot of other ventures and other things
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that I do to keep me busy and to make money.
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And I don't feel like I've been one of those
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bands that just you know, doesn't go away. So because
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of that, we may not find ourselves in these situations
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as frequently as we could, especially if we were like
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aggressively seeking them out. But when the phone rings and
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you're offered the slot of your friends, Cold Chamber a
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very respected legacy act that is not able to be
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here today for health reasons. It lets you know how
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certain people in the industry view you. Yeah, so to
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be looked at in a similar level and being offered
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that same spot on the stage with judas priest and
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staying and clutch, how do you say no to that?
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Exactly?
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So I felt a lot of love and respect and
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from the after Shock festival to even be asked to
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come and.
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Do that for them.
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Have has Dope ever played after Shock before this? Wow?
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We've played most of the festivals.
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We did the Sick New World last year and yeah,
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but no, we've never done after Shock And for that matter,
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I believe Static X was the first time at after
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Shock for them too on Thursday.
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Really yeah, wow, that's good.
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But they've been gone a long time too, you know.
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Yeah, And I think it's so cool that, you know,
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considering the whole situation with stack X that you decided
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to help the band to kind of help the fans,
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because the fans miss this gap, and so you helped
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make that happen.
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I was always a big static X fan, and the
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two bands have so much synergy. We both came out
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in nineteen ninety nine. If you look back at the
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touring that the two bands did as we were cutting
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our teeth aside from Ozfest, practically every tour that both
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bands did we did together. It was like Static X,
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Dope Powerman five thousand, Static X, Dope Fear Factory, static
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X and Dope in seven to us and static X
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and Dope by ourselves, Like we did two hundred and
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fifty shows together in the span of our first album.
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That's a lot of like connectivity to those same fans.
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Oh yeah, So I felt like I had a real
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clear vision as a fan and as a friend, and
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as a band that unlikes static X, who always had
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a major label, always had a big management firm, without
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all of that, and especially without their main guy Wayne there,
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they for a lack of better words, were in very
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unfamiliar territory. Whereas for me, you know, I had built
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an independent infrastructure over the last several years, and as
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a fan of Static X, I looked at it sitting
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down with Tony and going, I think I can help
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you guys with the twenty years of building my own
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independent infrastructure, you could sort of just put this through
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that same prism. Yeah, and you guys are very close
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to this, so I'm sure you've had ideas of how
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to bring this back. But as a fan of the band,
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I know what I would like to see, you know,
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I think that's the best perspective.
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Yeah, you know, because that's where the gap is. The
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fans are missing this, Yes, what is it they're missing
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and what do they want?
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And how do you do it in a way that's
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gonna like, of course, everything's going to be received with
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skepticism and like I don't know about this, you know,
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And there was a lot of that no waying Static
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no Static X in the beginning. But again, if you're
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doing it for the right reasons and you have a
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vision for something that really can help the music live
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and can really like help people have those experiences like
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I know how much I missed the band, and I
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know that I'm one of millions of fans out there
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that wanted to get fucking hammered and listen to I'm
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With Stupid Loud and live in a room and going like,
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you know, we're never gonna.
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Have those experiences again.
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Yeah, well, how can we change that and do it
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in the right way to where people can not feel
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guilty when they're smiling at a static X show. Yeah,
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because in the beginning, you know, it's morning, it's it's sad.
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But that was a big part of it, was to
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keep throwing as much positive energy and for the lack
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of better words, fun at it. Because static X was
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always such a fun band with fun songs.
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That's kay.
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There's a lot of metal bands that are serious that
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was a static X. Static X was always this fun,
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almost like smile on your face metal band. So it
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was important for us to figure out how to reconnect
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fans to that and allow them to participate in a
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static X experience without feeling guilty about it.
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It's funny you talk about the serious like Slayer played
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here the other night, serious band, and but what was funny?
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And I saw them at riot Fest too, Tom having
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that five years off that to be bored was having
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the best time of its life, smiling laughing, talk about
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death and destruction like he's having the best time. Kerry
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was kerrying, like very serious of course, you know, so
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you had both in the band, and I think that
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was kind of cool for sure.
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Well, you know, as we all get older, I think
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perspectives changed a little bit, you know.
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And so, yeah, I love what the way you put it,
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because there's you know, there's a lot of times the
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same situation as a stack X, Like they try to
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make it like a replacement and you can never.
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Or they try to move on, they try to rebrand
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it as something new. Yeah, And it was like Static
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X a legacy band, bro, no doubt. You try to
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take the legacy out of What the fuck are you doing?
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Try to take the Wayne Static out of static X?
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What are you doing? Why would you do that?
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Exactly?
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So, I don't know. To me, it wasn't hard.
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It was just again trying to make sure that you
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really make it fun and let it be about the music.
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And then with today's technology, we were able to like
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look at evil disco as something more than a sound
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and go, well, how do we represent the visual of
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evil disco? Because you know, Static X really checked out
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in like two thousand and nine. Yea, so ten twelve
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fifteen years of technology development for LED screens and just
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big production props. It didn't really exist back then that
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you can put through the evil disco filter. Yeah, And
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it was a lot of really cool, fun shit to
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come out of that too. So I couldn't be more
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proud and more happy for my friends who are able
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to go out there and continue on with something that
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they all worked very hard on. You know, static X
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was of course Wayne was the head chef. He was
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the Gordon Ramsey of it. But if you take any
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one of those guys away from that first album when
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the band was really defining their sound, it's not the
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same band. Like imagine Wisconsin Detrip without Tony Campos his
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voice and without his low and thunder, like it was
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a huge part of the sound and the you know,
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Kenny was the guy that got in his car and
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moved from the Midwest out to la with Wayne to
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start the band. Like that's your partner in crime, dude,
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Like it doesn't happen without that. And then Kuwichi came
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in at the end and was like, oh, I put
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a guitar, but I do lots of programming and he
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was a big part of that electronic, techno rave sound
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that made Wisconsin Death Trip not just an industrial album
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but almost like a techno rave evil disco album. So
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all three of all four of those guys together are
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responsible for that sound. And to think that those guys
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wouldn't be able to go out and celebrate the anniversaries
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of that album that went platinum and it just it
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wouldn't have been fair. So I'm really happy for them
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because it was such an achievement for all of them,
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and also for Wayne's family who's been part of this
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with us the whole time and gets to watch their
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son's band go to another level, which, and I say
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this with respect. You know, at the end, Wayne wasn't
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doing well and the community wasn't really supporting his choices
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anymore either, yea, and rightfully, so, you know, so he's
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caught up in all of this refound success, and in
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many ways it allows us to sort of overlook those
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darker years at the end where he was kind of
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phoned it in and didn't really care anymore because he
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was just caught in another trip. So it's really nice
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for the legacy of the whole thing that the band
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has been so successful in bringing it back and bringing
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it to a new generation of fans that can appreciate it,
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and I have. I can say this with the most
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purity in the world that there's no doubt in my
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mind Wayne Static is more on the minds and in
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the hearts of the fans than he's ever been and
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what more can you ask for than that?
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And then keeping the original legacy alive, of course the end,
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but the original, So that's way cool.
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I agree.
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So I heard you say something interview that I want
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to address about songs. There's one song that everybody wants
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to hear that you made comments on. But I want
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to know what your favorite song to performance.
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From dopepe Yes. I like, you know, it's funny.
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We've been playing kind of a can set that we've
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been playing and supporting Static X and whatnot. I look
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forward to the next tour when I can revamp the
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set because it's it's getting a little stale. I love
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the song violence. I think it's like the coolest song
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that Dope ever wrote. I think we've put out six
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albums and there's a lot of cool material in those
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six albums, and it's funny because you don't get to
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pick what what you become popular for.
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Right, It's weird.
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It is weird.
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I don't even know what the thing you think is
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gonna be popular isn't. Yeah, and the thing.
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And it's funny because like, the two most popular dope
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