Feb. 21, 2025
PipemanRadio Interviews Lunar About New Concept/Thematic album Tempora Mutantur
Sacramento, USA’s progressive metal pioneers LUNAR - New album "Tempora Mutantur" out 1/31/25. Concept / thematic album dealing with the passing of time, our struggles through that, coping mechanisms, different perception, etc.
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Sacramento, USA’s progressive metal pioneers LUNAR - New album "Tempora Mutantur" out 1/31/25. Concept / thematic album dealing with the passing of time, our struggles through that, coping mechanisms, different perception, etc.
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ft. members Helion Prime, Beholder, Vis Mystica, Mokili Wa, Nordic Frost, Outloud, Double Vision
Continued and driven by drummer and primary songwriter Alex Bosson (Helion Prime, Planeswalker) after the passing of co-band founder Ryan Erwin in 2018, the album is the result of a deeply personal and introspective creative process.
Prog Collective LUNAR Lunar Confronts Personal Struggles in “Fall Back Into Old Habits” Lyric Video
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Settle some raison, even down shift the seasons.
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Turning brown, you're cold Brown. This is the pipe Man
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here on the Adventures pipe Man W four c Y Radio.
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And I'm really excited about our next guest because, first
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of all, not only do they have some badass new music,
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but the music has some meaning to a lot of people,
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including myself and to them obviously, which we're going to
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talk about. So let's welcome to the show.
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Lunar.
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How are you good? Good?
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The band you're alec.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nobody else is with me unfortunately.
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Right, so we'll just pretend they're all there.
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Yeah, yeah, that's fine. That's what that's what I usually do.
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So there you go. So tell us about the new
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album and what it means to you. You know, it's
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a concept album that I think is really cool and
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I want to hear from your brain.
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Okay, all right, well, yeah, the concept that this one
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it feels a little more thematic than conceptual to me,
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and and it's it's splitting hairs, I know. But you know,
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with the last record we did, the Illusionist, it was
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like this whole story that was told, you know, from
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front end Act. And but this one just kind of
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has this overarching theme of the passing of time. So
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you know, the title of the record, simpora mutantur is
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a Latin phrase that translates to the passage of time.
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And so really each song is kind of just dealing
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with different elements of that that that everybody faces, you
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know what I mean in in how we how we
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perceive time, how it affects people differently, how your headspace
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can have those different effects of of of vacancy or
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you know, when you're in a in a terrible headspace,
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how time can seem to move longer like it you know,
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seconds feel like hours type things, or the opposite that
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the you know, the the great moments are are fleeting,
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you know, they just disappear from us too quickly. So
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it deals with a lot of elements of that, and uh,
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and some of the stuff of like how we how
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we try to alter time in our head to how
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we try and hold on to the memories how we
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try and escape some memories, you know, things like that.
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Yeah, And you know, first of all, I want to say,
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I'm glad you said thematic because that does kind of pinpoint.
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Some people may say splain hairs, but there's to me,
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there's a huge difference. Like you said, you know, a
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concept album, it's a concept from beginning to end, right,
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Something that has a theme can go off the concept.
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He'll stay within the theme right.
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Right, exactly. Yeah, And that's that's where where I get
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in that, you know, like just specifying with it, because
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like I feel like when people hear concept album, they think, oh,
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this is a story that's being told, Like like if
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I'm reading a book, I need to start at the
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beginning and end at the end. You know, this one
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is not necessarily that with The Illusionist, yes, the last
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record I feel it was that, but this this record, no,
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you can. You can have each individual chatter kind of
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sitting as their own piece, but it has this overarching
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theme throughout it, you know.
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Nice, Yeah, I agree. And then you know, I think
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the theme of good music is that an artist is
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portraying something from deep inside them, some kind of message,
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but whoever's listening is too, it just not may not
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be the same message. It may be in the same
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realm meaning to it, you know.
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Yeah, and I one hundred percent agree. And I often
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try and think of that in writing, especially lyrically, because
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of the fact that, you know, the songs that I've
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connected with that that the artist that wrote it may
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have had a very specific thing that happened to them,
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but that's not the same thing that happened to me necessarily.
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But I can, you know, have those words kind of
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latch onto my own personal experiences, and I want to
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make it the same way. So there's this you know,
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kind of vague metaphor within the lyric writing where I
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want it to be something that means something personally to me,
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but also be able to have individuals attached to it
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in their own way. You know.
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It's so key because to me, the key to a
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great lyricist is that when I hear a song, it
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hits me somewhere like deep and like real. But that
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wasn't the intention of the artist. They just put the
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lyrics in the song so that you could put your
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own meaning to.
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It, right right exactly. Yeah, I think I think there is,
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you know, some intention behind it. From an artist's standpoint,
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and but also like to your point of what you're saying,
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it's it's the bigger intention is it's coming from something
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real from me, from the artist that's writing.
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It, you know, right, Because if I'm in the audience,
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yes there is some intention to hit the audience, but
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you don't know my specific meaning exactly.
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Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent and yeah, and and ultimately,
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you know, as as a musician, as an artist, you know,
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like I want what I'm putting out there to connect
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with people. But also even if it connected with no one,
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it's it means something to me, you know, and it always.
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Will and it has to first, like it's not gonna
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mean anything to anybody else until it means something to you,
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Because to me, any kind of art is expression, and
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especially expression of feelings and emotions.
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Right right, Yeah, and I one hundred percent agree, and yeah.
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And the the stuff that that I like to to
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approach is that the dark stuff in the in the
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world essentially, and and because it's a it's an outlet
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for that kind of stuff, you know what I mean,
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Like a lot of the themes within these Lunar records
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are are very they're dark they're depressing, you know what
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I mean, And yes, they come from my own personal experiences,
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but they're this outlet of you know, I can't change,
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yeah exactly one hundred yeah.
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And it's therapy for you the artist, but it's also
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therapy for me the listener, because you know, again putting
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my own meaning to it like that, it's so therapeutic.
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If it weren't for music, I will have either killed
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myself or or killed somebody else of it. OK.
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Yeah, I feel I feel like that could be said
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for so many of us. And that's that's why we
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that's why we gravitate towards this type of music. I think,
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you know, there's the there's there's the conceptual aspects of
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personal meanings, but then also there's the musician ship behind
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it too, you know what I mean. And when we
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listen to metal artists, at least for me personally, it's
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a lot of the like, by God, that guy is incredible, right,
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it sounds great and it hits me right in the fields.
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It's got everything, you know, everything that I.
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Want and you know what it especially metal like, there's
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some in a bond between all of us, even if
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we don't know each other because of the darkness of
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the music and the therapy it provides us.
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I I yep, I agree, yeah, because I've had this
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conversation with people before where it's you know, because of
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the fact that the people that gravitate towards this music,
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you know that we're here because we've been through some
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type of hardship in our life. Yeah, and so there
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is this like you see somebody walking down the street
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in a metal T shirt and there's just this like
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I don't know you, but there's this instant camaraderie.
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You know, no doubt that nobody else can understand.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, And that's the funny part. Like I have a brother.
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He can't really understand it too well. And I talk
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about even like getting together with a woman. I'm like,
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I need a woman that likes metal, and he's like, well,
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that's kind of ridiculous at your age. No, it's not.
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You don't get it. It's word than just listening to
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a song. It's not teenage angst.
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You know.
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It's like people that say to me, oh, well, I
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used to like metal. If you say you used to
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like metal, you never really liked metal and some of
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stuff you think you liked wasn't really metal?
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Yeah, yeah, it didn't. It didn't have that meaning, that
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attachment to people who are saying it like that, I think,
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you know, yeah, and so you know, yeah, there could
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be the surface level of just like oh I used
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to enjoy it musically, but nothing else about it, you know.
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And and then from but like you're saying, like, hey,
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you know having a partner that that likes metal, it's
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because of that connection factor, you know.
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One hundred percent. And like the conversations you can even
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have you know that you can't have with somebody else
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because they won't understand it, you know. And you know,
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the thing is, too is most of us metal heads
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at a point in life and doesn't have to be now.
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It was way back when we were a kid or
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a teenager, we were the outsiders. Yeah, we were the
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freaks to this, to that. But when we go to
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a metal show or a metal festival, there are no outsiders.
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Yeah yeah, and we.
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Don't even have to all be exactly the same. We're
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just all for this family, and we have different ways
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that we express what we're feeling and why we're there.
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Yeah, exactly. And but but that that instant camaraderie though,
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you know.
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No judgment, no judgment, none of the things we experience
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out in the outside world, let's put it.
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Yeah, yeah, I agree.
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And you know, even with your album. Okay, what I
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think is cool about your album is, you know, the
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passage of time. I've been finding this out even more
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than ever recently. Okay, it's so different in different stages
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of life. Like, yeah, you were spot on with you know,
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the bad times, but then you look the back on
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the bad times too, and it seems like a blip
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in time when you're like ten twenty years ahead at
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a bad times, you know, right, yeah, But while you're
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in it, it's like it seems like it's a million years.
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Yeah, eternity. But then yeah, and then and but then yeah,
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good and bad memories and you look back on them
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in all this time and it becomes like you said,
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just this, just this drop in the bucket, you know,
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and it's so weird. And I've reflected on that a
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lot in recent years of becoming a father, and that's
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that's what's latched onto it a lot for me, because
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you know, you constantly have people of the of the
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generation before that have raised their kids already that when
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you have little kids at home, they tell you like,
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oh my god, cherish this time, this is the best time.
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But I'm just sitting here like, oh my god, I'm
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exhausted all the time, and i don't know if I'm
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doing the right thing by my kids. And everybody's telling
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me latch onto this, but I feel like and then
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when you get to that point, they're like, it's gone
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in an insult.
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Oh yeah, Like I can tell you for me specifically,
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like this is why I've been talking about it lately.
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It seems to me the last thirty years I blinked
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my eye, and it happened. Before that, it was slow
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as shit, okay, you know. And then even to your
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point with kids, Okay, I have four kids and they're
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all adults. While they were kids, eighteen seemed like a
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million years.
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Away, right right, And.
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Now eighteen is a million years away, as my oldest
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is forty. Now, you know, it's like, but it's a
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million years away in the other direction.
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Right right, Yeah, And then you try and think back
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to when they're five, and you're like, man, I barely
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remember that.
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the older you get the faster it goes Because I
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was talking about this with my brother's mother, who's about
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to be ninety. Okay, she says, you think it goes
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fast at your age, you should try my age. And
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it's true. It's like the days just whiz by every
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year that you get older. It's the weirdest thing. And
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it is perfect because everybody that's going to hear this
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music is going to have a different feel from that.
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from your music, trauma bonded with you because I've had
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several people pass away in the last few years include it.
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