May 6, 2025

PipemanRadio Interviews Mike Mangini and Motley of Monolith

It’s Season 19, Episode 48 of The Adventures of Pipeman. and Pipeman chats with Mike Mangini and Motley about music and the new music from Monolith. Tune in at 1PM ET on 5/7/25 for the live show on W4CY Radio at www.w4cy.com. Subscribe to The...

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Season 19

It’s Season 19, Episode 48 of The Adventures of Pipeman. and Pipeman chats with Mike Mangini and Motley about music and the new music from Monolith.

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With cherry shoot like cres.

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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe

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And I'm very excited about our next.

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Guess because they're a badass. So let's welcome to the show, Monolith.

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How are you? And I did? I did pronounce it right?

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Right?

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Like that's my biggest fear.

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Is pronouncing band names wrong. And if it's something I'm

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not sure of, I'll ask ahead of time. But this

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one I was pretty sure of. But then after I

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say it, I'm like, oh, let me make sure because

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you never know nowadays.

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Yeah, we know.

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What we did is we picked a band name that

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like twenty other bands had so that everyone would know

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how to say it.

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Yeah, there you go, that's a perfect idea. It does

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seem like that nowadays. How do you how do you

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do band names nowadays? Like that's why people are using

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symbols and letters upside down because it's like every band

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name is taken, I know, and you know.

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If you know Prince owns the symbol thing that that's

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done right, So we don't know, we just I don't

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even know how we did it. We just threw a

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whole bunch of them in the hat. We talked about

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the sound of the band, us, all of it. It's

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just then it showed up.

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See if I started a band now, I think, just

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to be funny, I would just have like no name.

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It's like instead of a symbol, it's just a blank space.

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That that is. But that is partially funny. I also

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I also think it was as interesting and you know,

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in life, I grew up where pets pets had pet names,

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but then I started to you know, spread out and

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meet people from the South who named their pets like actual.

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Names, Like oh, I hate that, Like I know people

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that their dog is named.

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Bob Robert, right, and when they use they.

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Use human names, but they're not even like like unique

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names are like the common most common human names there are,

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and it's just weird, right.

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So so so we consider naming the band Andrew or

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Billy or.

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You know, something that's like actually good idea too. Man,

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that would be great.

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It'd be like just uh, you know, and it's nobody's

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name in the band. You gotta do it where it's

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nobody's name in the band, because that's what they're going

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to assume. Okay, you're the lead singer, that's probably your

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name or you know whatever.

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Yes, in Pink Floyd, which one's pink? That was the question?

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Oh yeah, I love that one. That is funny. Uh.

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And I love when there's people that have these fake

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names but people think it is really their real name.

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That happens to me all the time with Modeley.

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Right.

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See, you know, and I'm sure, uh you know Blowthar

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you know that's his real name.

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Right.

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I got a funny story about Blowthar. Okay, I'm doing

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this interview with him over at Download and they there,

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they're costumes didn't come. So the tour manager comes out

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to me and says, hey, Blowthar is gonna come out here,

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but he doesn't.

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I ain't costume on.

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So like like, don't let anybody know. But then blow

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Thar was fucking with people, Like there was a photographer

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right across from me during the interview who had like

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some gummy bears and he go and he goes to dude, He's.

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totally tell it was the blow thar voice, you know,

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and gar was playing there still no clue whatsoever.

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It was funny as hell.

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So tell there our listeners a little bit about your band,

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you know, for the people that have never heard you,

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don't know what you're about, how would you the artists,

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describe your band?

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Go ahead, Motley, Oh you're gonna give me that one?

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All right?

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How about I'll start that. You kick in if you

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want so. Our band has a rock metal sound as

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a genre, so that's the box that it goes in.

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But it is different in that it is the rhythms

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are very Latin based, and it's not a general just

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a general word Latin that breaks up into many very

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specific types of rhythms and they're all intertwined here. That

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is all in our background somehow musically, and so if

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you combine that, you kind of put it into the

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rock metal Latin music has a real great groove to it,

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and there are so many of them. Now you add

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that all of the songs have to do, they're all

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connected into a big story. You have a very focused

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thing over with with with genre, with with whatever it does,

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with the lyrics and with the sound.

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See I love that because if you look at my shirt,

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it's a Costa Rican shirt. I go to Costa Rica

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all the time and I've literally I've talked to, you know,

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some of the media people that run like the other

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festivals and media at the other festival, and I'm like, man,

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I think we should do a festival in Costa Rica

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because nobody does a rock one there. You know, you

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have that Envision one there and you know, but you know,

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and there are a lot of metal heads there and

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people don't even realize. And then now, so if I

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do that, then you guys are definitely on the ticket

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because you would match absolutely.

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And I have played there that that crowd is one

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of is absolutely top five for glassiness. I mean like

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movement bodies. It's a sea of people having an absolute blast.

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It's I love it.

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Yeah, it's because they don't really have many so it's

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not like, you know, they can go to one every weekend.

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I also heard like I was thinking of covering Banger's

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open air this weekend, which is in Brazil, and I

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heard Brazil they're like that, like big time, like rock

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and rio is like every band I talked to that's

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played there say it's the most insane festival they've ever

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played because of the audience.

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Yeah. Again, I have done it and it's the same thing.

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And I can't wait for us to be introduced to

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that entire area of the world because they're gonna know

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that their rhythms are in this and it's gonna work.

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So really, Yeah, which Latin countries would you say your

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rhythms like are most assimilated to well.

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Martel Hugo, because you know, Andy wrote a bunch and

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then I you know some and you put some, so

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go ahead.

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Uh, basically, all the all the all the countries from

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the Caribbean will see some of their traditional rhythms in

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the songs.

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Uh.

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Still of course with all the Afro A influences that

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they have, they're gonna see some stuff over there. And

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you know for the male part, chileing Orina, they're gonna

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love it.

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So we we we have.

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Very big, big thing, nice people in South America with

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all the products.

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And you know, it's it's it's inherent in the music.

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Is when I got it, when I received the first chunk,

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I absolutely heard distinct Brazilian rhythms in the guitar and

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bassed distinct Caribbean, distinct Afro Cuban because Afro Cuban is Klavi.

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It's just just like bop, Like every rock beat is

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kind of like that boom yeah, boom boom bah. I mean,

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so this is already part of it. But you know,

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we don't know that. We know, people didn't tell us

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that you're growing up listen to rock music. I know,

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no one ever pulled me aside and said, you realize

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what that actually is?

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So wow.

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So when I recognized it in the parts, especially like

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you know, rock beats and metal very heavy on what's

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called the down beats. So you have a big heavy beat,

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you know, a rock booge bats, boozoo bah, you got

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bonhom you got all the heavy stuff. But these guys,

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their instruments were not hitting one off, but they were off.

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They were moved. And the thing is, if you play

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Latin music with the drums moved off of the main beat,

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it's hard to know where the beat is. So I

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have to engineer it to play rock metal but also

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hit what they were doing. And I was in absolute heaven.

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I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I was like,

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this is just exactly what I need to do.

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I love that because. Okay, so it's Friday. I live

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in South Florida and right up the road from me,

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there's this place, Avocado Cantina that they have a live

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Latin band every Friday night, and I go because they

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are bad ass, okay, and I do love like the

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different drum beats of Latin bands and.

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Stuff like that.

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I have a trivia question for you, though, since we

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brought this up about drum beats, do you know what

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kind of drum beat Dave Grohl used in Nirvana? The

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name of it, the genre?

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To me, I don't know. Look at I could tell

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you who got the most rushing touchdowns in the NFL.

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I can tell you. But music, it just sounds like

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it's a it's like a black black kind of I

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don't know what you would call it, but like a punk, punk,

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poka kind of.

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He used elements from disco for what I understand.

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He's got it. He's got it. Yeah, he admitted Dave

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grow and made himself. He stole it all from disco,

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which is so funny.

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That's a fun interview that I saw.

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But he's funny because one of the albums he was

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using this rhythm and he was super proud of the rhythm.

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And when he presented to to I think.

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The record label, the guy from the record level and

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was like, Yeah, that's reggaeton.

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What are you talking about? That's reggaeton. They put some

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some songs and.

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He was like, oh, come on, I love it.

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I didn't know that, but you know, he can get

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away with making a sound however the heck he wants.

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It's just unbelievable, unbelievable.

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I would have never known that, and unless I saw

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him say it himself, because it just never even occurred

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to me. I might not have liked Nirvana if I

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knew that ahead of time.

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Time I think.

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Track is coming from from from a disco song.

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So let's tell the listeners a little bit about what

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you got going on, because you got new stuff going

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on right now.

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Let's talk about it.

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Mart. We describe you take the video things you just

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due did. This guy put the stuff together on paper

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like every second, like every minute of the day. As

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as soon as I landed, everything was accounted for. Every

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second of the video the concept. Go ahead, Mart, We'll

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give it to him.

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So yeah.

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For for the new listeners, we have we have the

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band Monolith. We have two singles already out with the videos.

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The videos are gorgeous. Everything is connected.

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So the story is basically you're receiving a chapter by

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chapter of a story very soon.

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It's coming the third single, uh.

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And the first of all is it's about people in

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power and all this that they do. The second single

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is about one of our main characters, which is the

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mother of the star child, which is the main character

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of the whole story of the album. The sacrifices that

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you have to do to keep his song, you know going.

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The third the third song that is coming out very soon.

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I don't want to get too much into but it's

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it's more about situationals, things that are happening, and little

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but little, we're gonna be released.

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More and more and more and more n time.

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We're collecting data about the whole situation and and trying

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to make sure that we do the right thing for

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the fan base that we are creating with all.

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This nice and there is a lot to talk about

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in songs nowadays.

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It's for sure, we trying.

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To We're trying to do the best we can and

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not leave holes open in any of the different aspects

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of the of the production of the song musically, lyrically, uh,

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video wise, uh, production wise everything you know, instrumentally everything.

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So it's it takes it takes time. It's an effort,

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Thanks God. You know.

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The all the team is super professional, Like I mean,

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we have the best freaking drummer on the planet. The

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guitar player is a producer for years, like for libraries,

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So the guy knows to do every single rhythm that

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you can imagine, because the background of the guys is unbelievable.

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He had been working with a lot of people from

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from the Caribbean, like from Haiti, from Cuba, poor Ricos.

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So the guy is a library for real of rhythms.

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An amazing bassed player too and vocalist. So when you.

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Add all that with Mike and the production team that

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we have, the management team.

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To the people is like the top notch that we

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can you can gain right now.

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I love it.

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That's great, you know, and you're right, it does take time,

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you know. I think that's one of the benefits that

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happened from covid from the Lockdown is that musicians finally,

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you know, remembered what it was like to actually create

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instead of being on a hamster wheel, you know, and

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just let's put this record out real quick and blah

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blah blah blah blah. And then you put it out

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as an artist and you're like, well, that's not really

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what I would want to finish product. But you know,

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and now I think artists have the ability to take

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that time and and realize that they need to take

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that time to create the best music.

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another aspect of the monolith music.

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Is we we we we really reevaluate it, uh and

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ensure that it's it's digestible and we have to go.

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Through some changes because so to write and write that,

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I learned the hard way, noting if I work with

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themducing my own music whole album. I realized it was

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a difference writing somebody singing it and not only someone

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singing it, but somebody actually listening to it. It's a

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whole different thing. And you gotta so we reevaluate. It's like,

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what is the name of this song? Do you hear? It? Is?

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As people are people going to say this word? Are

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they going to sing this? You know, and you have

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to go and maybe tweak some things to make sure

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that the message just hits. What's the message? How about this? What? What?

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A song like do Do Do Do Do Do? Doesn't

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mean anything, right, but you sing it? You know? She

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loves me?

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Yeah?

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Yeah, yeah? You know the the Beatles.

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How about with the Beatles? How about Revolution number nine?

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Like I can't believe I used to listen to that

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over and over again, and that's all there's day, all day.

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That's true.

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So it's as so so we have to balance it

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because we have to keep the integrity of of of

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of Monolith, which means the story, the sound, and the

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presentation these really really high end videos that that we've

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been giving to people.

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So I love it.

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It's the whole thing because to me, music is multiple things.

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It's not just the song. I think it's all of it,

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like you're talking about, it's the videos, it's the production,

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it's the live it's you know, it has to be

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something that hits all senses, is what I think.

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It does. And it has to, but it has it

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has to be delivered that way though, you know, you

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can't if a musician just plays a part, that's not

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the same as if his soul isn't it none. What

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I what I found was very, very very interesting for me,

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is when I am in music with people, I'm inside

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of all of them. Like with the soul, I could

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really connect it to everybody. And when you've got a

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group of people that's like minded like that, the whole

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thing is just powerful.

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Yeah, one hundred percent. And you know, to your point

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before you know, you can tell if a band is

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going through emotions or if they really have their heart

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and soul in it. And I was talking about this

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in an interview yesterday, and there's one band that I

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actually love at all. It's I Go, and I do

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all these coverage at all these festivals, and it's the

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ongoing joke backstage between all the media people that this

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is like the most boring band live ever, and you know,

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because they just look like they're just up there like working,

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you know, and they're just they just play and who oh.

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I won't do that.

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I didn't say who. Oh, I didn't say who. I

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just said, there's this one band I really love, but I.

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Won't say who. You know. But but I don't love

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them live.

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You know, it's like I'll just go listen in my car,

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and you know, it's an ongoing joke backstage because everybody

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loves the band, but it's like they have been voted

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like the worst band live ever. But then you take

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other bands that maybe aren't that talent talented musically, but

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if they do a great production and a great show

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and great videos, they people love them.

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Yeah, everything is a balance. You gotta do well.

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You gotta try to give your best all the time,

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every time and every single last thing because in the end,

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people is paying, you know, and yeah, if you don't,

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if you don't give your yourself the you know, all

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all that you can, people people notice it.

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People feel the energy. People notice it.

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Oh yeah, they and they feed off of it. Like

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if you're somebody that's really into it, the the whole

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crowd is gonna go crazy and they see it.

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Mm hm.

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They may I add that sometimes I will tell you

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touring life is horrible. You're tired all the time, so

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it's you know, there might be a time where you

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were into it, but you're so yeah, you can't bring

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I mean, I've played so many shows in Japan after

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only arriving for one day to recover, which you do

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not recover thirty you just don't. So I have been

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on stage thinking that I was asleep and I don't

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know how my body. Ever, no matter what the band

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was in my whole life, and I've been there with

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all of them, I still to this moment, I have

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no idea how I did it. And you know, I

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know at that moment, I'm not going to seem like,

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you know, throwing the sticks up and I'm all energetic.

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I'm probably gonna be like you, no like this. I

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love that it's in the OLIGARX video. That's my sister's move.

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Sister does that.

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That's so funny. Yeah, let's see.

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There it is. But but you know what I mean,

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sometimes you just can't you can't get but you know what,

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it's still something else that makes us, you know, almost

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we don't understand really what we are fully as a

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human person, and there is this other thing. This is

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this other part of us, and it's it's got to

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have meaning and their soul all that stuff. It does

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come out. But I'm just saying that sometimes it's just

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it's just brutal to even get to a stage and play.

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I I you know, I'm glad you brought that pointing up,

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because I don't think people understand, you know, they don't

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understand how grueling it can be. Sometimes even me, Like

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I'm not a musician, but I go on tour and

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I do the all these radio all these festivals radio coverage,

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and like starting next week, okay, I'm at a festival

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every weekend till October okay. And and now post COVID,

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the festivals aren't two and three days. There are four

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days and then a pre party, so it's basically all week.

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And you know, it's like people co be.

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Oh, you're living the dream life, going all over the place,

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and part of that is true, but then they don't

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see the other part of it, where like I don't

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sleep for six months or whatever, you're sick or whatever,

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or the festival dust they like, man, I can't breathe

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most of the time because of the festival dust, and

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you lose your voice, and you know, like it's there's

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certain things about it that are great, and there are

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others are just grueling. And then you guys as musicians, man,

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it's even worse. Like I don't even wonder I even

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wonder how sometimes singers sing at a festival with that

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festival dust, or like I see some you know, some

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bands where like they have the costumes on or they

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have big leather jackets on and it's in Florida and

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it's eighty million degrees and one hundred percent humidity, and

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that's like torture. I was at Hellfest and it was

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one hundred and four degrees and I'm like, how do

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bands even perform in that?

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I'm pretty sure you.

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What was that?

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I'm pretty sure they pass out after the show.

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There are some and there have been You've seen that,

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you know, and I'm sure you've seen it firsthand. People

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like a heat stroke and during the middle of the

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set and get carded off, you know. So that's the

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part people don't see like it is. It's a grind,

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you know, and you really have to love it too.

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Like my daughter sometimes, my youngest shoulds sometimes come to

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a festival with me and I have a.

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Day through the first day, She's like, Dad, I don't

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know how you do this. Every weekend, I'm already.

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Done talking about show guys. I gotta go my time

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a mike, I leave you here.

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Sorry, you rock it's okay, thanks, we love you.

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You rock all right.

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You know what's what's what's interesting is I have played

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it just within the last several years, three shows with

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food poisoning and two with double double walking pneumonia. I

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played three with double wow, and I've got to tell

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you that, I mean, it's impossible to even crawl to

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the drums, especially if it's a two or three hour

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show and it's just you just want it to stop.

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But you know, the funny thing is when you get

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to the point that that I got to this some

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thing that takes over, and it's just amazing how how

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the human body can survive this. I mean, I think

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it's the most unhealthy, god awful thing ever, but you're

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up there doing it. And the worst is just the fear,

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especially with food poisoning, is when can I run off

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the stage and find, you know, a toilet. It's like,

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I don't even care if that's gross to talk about.

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It is real. And if you're you know, if you're

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out there thinking I'm gonna I want to be in

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a band and go off, but you're really, really well,

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you try to try to do this because you look

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at like, okay, fifty seven minutes from now, there's a

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little keyboard piece, and I am I've got literally a

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minute and four seconds to get off the stage, do

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whatever I have to do and make it back. And

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once uh and it was a show and poll and

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I did not make it back. You know, I I

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you could see me jumping on the drums and then

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I just started playing as if nothing was wrong, because

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you know, you want to be professional. But what's interesting

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is that lo and behold this gets pointed out to

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me by whoever else. It's like, oh, somebody made a

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YouTube video saying how bad a drummer you are that

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you forgot where you were. I'm just like, leave me alone.

466
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I know, people just say shit man, Like it just

467
00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:33.440
blows my mind that people just say how much hate

468
00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:36.839
people put out there? Like I remember what was it?

469
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:41.839
Last year? Corey Taylor came out on Instagram and all

470
00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:45.519
socials and said he needed to cancel some of his

471
00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:50.480
shows that slipknot shows his shows in North America for

472
00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:53.759
his physical health and mental health. And the hate he

473
00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:56.359
got for that crap blew my mind because it's like,

474
00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:59.240
come on, he was honest with you and he's telling

475
00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:02.519
you like this is not good for his health. It's

476
00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:06.000
just a show. Okay, there'll be another one. Why do

477
00:28:06.039 --> 00:28:08.359
you want these people to risk their health like that?

478
00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:11.839
And that's why you have situations like a Chester or

479
00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:16.079
Chris Cornell because they never have a chance to get

480
00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:18.119
you know, right.

481
00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:26.160
It is. It is an interesting existence to to be.

482
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:32.640
I guess people want a piece of you and they

483
00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:36.480
feel very very connected and everything. But it's very odd

484
00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:41.000
because when it's you, when it's you, that's that's the person,

485
00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:46.119
and you really perceive this and the way people feel

486
00:28:46.559 --> 00:28:48.720
around you or the things that they say about you

487
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:53.039
and all of that stuff. It there is no way

488
00:28:53.680 --> 00:29:00.079
to conclude that this is okay, this is I get it.

489
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:01.119
It's not okay.

490
00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:01.960
You know.

491
00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:05.160
It's like you shouldn't be hating on anybody and saying

492
00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:07.519
these things. It's like say it. It's like it's like

493
00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:10.279
someone won't say something to your face, you know they

494
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:11.799
they won't say it to your face.

495
00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:13.680
But yeah, I hate that you got.

496
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:15.599
I want to do it. But you know, this is

497
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:18.599
a this is a part of human nature. Blah blah blah.

498
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:21.160
But like I said, this, this is nothing I've been

499
00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:25.680
able to conclude that says if that's okay. I mean

500
00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:29.799
I I accept all of it, and I mean I

501
00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:31.279
have to and I have to have a sense of

502
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:34.920
humor on top of it, which thankfully I have a

503
00:29:35.559 --> 00:29:38.359
drummers sense of humor. We're all a little bit where

504
00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:40.759
we have a couple of screws around up here. I think,

505
00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:44.480
I don't know, I mean, we're you've got to have

506
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:47.240
a sense of humor, but I can't imagine. I mean,

507
00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:50.720
I know how he felt with with with with with

508
00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:53.039
with what was said. It must have just made him

509
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:56.359
want to just say, you know what by you know.

510
00:29:56.599 --> 00:30:01.799
Yeah, funk off, Like come on, man, here's a human being.

511
00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:05.160
And it holds true for live artists, you know, and

512
00:30:05.160 --> 00:30:07.519
stuff like that, what they go through. That's why I'm

513
00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:13.119
pointing it out, because like the audience is sometimes relentless,

514
00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:16.759
like they expect you to be superhuman and you know,

515
00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:20.680
you're you are just a human being, you know, yep.

516
00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:24.279
Yeah, And you know, anybody, anybody that's in that position.

517
00:30:24.319 --> 00:30:27.359
It could be an athlete or any kind of athlete,

518
00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:31.160
a musician or whatever it is. You have to have

519
00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:36.559
a you have to like almost like it's almost like

520
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:40.359
you either have to been raised by really really really

521
00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:43.880
strong parents that have just taught you right and wrong

522
00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:47.160
like that, don't don't engage, don't do any of this,

523
00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:49.680
or you probably have to have been raised by a

524
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:52.920
jackal and you're just going to attack people that you

525
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:54.799
just go right out of them. Because there are people

526
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:57.440
that there are musicians and athletes that will go after.

527
00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:02.240
They will go right after all these people. You know.

528
00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:04.720
For for me, it's just I got a sense of

529
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:05.440
humor whatever.

530
00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:09.759
But I'm you gotta the situation like that, with.

531
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:14.039
What people put Corey through. It's hard, but yeah, but

532
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:16.720
you just look at it and go, well, I'm just

533
00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:18.839
simply gonna do what I'm gonna do over here, and

534
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:19.960
you go to the next thing.

535
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:23.359
And that's all you can do, no doubt.

536
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:26.160
So tell everybody how they can reach out to you

537
00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:29.799
guys on the web, on socials, get get your music,

538
00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:32.400
buy your merge, check out tour date, it's all that

539
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:32.960
good stuff.

540
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:36.799
The thing to do is, uh, we are a real

541
00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:40.079
Monolith band, because there are other bands that that that

542
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:45.200
that have that name, but uh, it's ours. Surprisingly it

543
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:48.720
was available, so but it's month. So we have we

544
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:53.160
have Instagram of course and Facebook, and you just look

545
00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:56.440
up real Monolith band on Instagram or Facebook, and we

546
00:31:57.079 --> 00:32:02.680
have a tea and people to look at was stop.

547
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:06.440
They just go there and just behind the scenes, you've

548
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:09.799
got you know, we have so much content. We were

549
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:14.039
very very very very cognizant of this before we even

550
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:17.920
got together to film. You know, there's chunk of chunk

551
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:21.640
of videos with this amazing video team, a group of people.

552
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:26.440
So we have like cell phone footage of of let's say,

553
00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:31.119
what the camera was seeing, or of us looking at

554
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:35.720
the screen that the camera was projecting too, like you know,

555
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:39.440
it's all oh, you know, it's like, oh, I always

556
00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:41.440
wanted to know what that looked like or something, so,

557
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:45.720
you know, and I had a couple of cameras on

558
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:49.240
my drums and I turned over that footage so that

559
00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:52.039
it's like, oh, you've got that camera the whole time,

560
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:55.039
and you actually hear the real drums that were being

561
00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:58.400
played during the video, which it's not any production or anything.

562
00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:01.160
It just sounds like drums in a hall way whatever.

563
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:04.400
But just stuff like that. It's real. It's real.

564
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:06.039
That's what I was gonna say. It's real.

565
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:10.799
I'd rather have that than you know, just it's sounding perfectly.

566
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:13.599
And I think that's the thing nowadays too. People don't

567
00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:16.359
want perfection and polish, they want real.

568
00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:21.039
Yeah, and there's a there's obvious there's a balance. For example,

569
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:26.480
what I learned writing music did two things for me.

570
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:31.039
One thing that it did is that it allowed me

571
00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:33.599
to get a feeling for what it was like to

572
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:36.960
actually work with me as a drummer, because when I wrote,

573
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:41.279
when I write music, it's not about the drums, It's

574
00:33:41.319 --> 00:33:43.200
about the song. And so when I go to play

575
00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:45.960
the drums for a lot of my songs, if you

576
00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:50.319
listen to my entire solo album, I'm not under Mike Manginie,

577
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:53.160
It's under Manginie and you can find it. I'm for

578
00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:56.920
free if you want, and Spotify whatever your service is.

579
00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:00.079
But what happens is that the songs that of the

580
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:05.720
most singable and powerful have the drums that are the

581
00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:09.079
most simple, which at first, when I released it, it

582
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:14.920
aggravated a particular you know, audience that was looking for

583
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:18.480
fireworks and stuff, and I was like, yeah, but I'm

584
00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:21.320
gonna ruin the song if I put too much. And

585
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:23.920
so that's one thing, so I got a feeling for

586
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:27.679
what it was like. The other thing is that is

587
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:32.360
that the the actual words and the melodies and the

588
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:36.400
way that things sound hits the brain first, you don't

589
00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:39.639
you don't pros like do do? Do you know whatever?

590
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:43.360
Or or there's so many songs that the artists will

591
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:46.239
tell you they're just blabbing stuff. You know. It's like

592
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:53.440
it's just it's the sound. You learn that. So with Monoliths,

593
00:34:53.440 --> 00:35:00.400
we really cognizant of of these things. So we're just

594
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:03.239
That's all I gotta tell you is everyone's very aware,

595
00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:06.000
and we put it out there, we talk about it,

596
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:08.079
we make room for each other. But here's the bottom

597
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:13.599
line that's very important is that if you see a

598
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:18.000
digital file, especially with the string instruments, guitar number one

599
00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:22.519
and a piano is still strings, you know, yes, even

600
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:25.800
though it's synthesized now. But if you look at the

601
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:30.119
wave files, they are walls. It's just a wall. If

602
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:34.719
you look at the drums, the drums are very spiky,

603
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:37.159
and so just think, if you think about this for

604
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:42.119
a minute, how is it possible that a spiky thing

605
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:48.000
like drums that are hit not like a drum machine

606
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:50.880
doing it, but a human being doing it, And you're

607
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:53.000
not going to get every hit to go exactly the

608
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:57.440
same how are you supposed to hear that behind the

609
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:00.199
wall of sounds. So what you have to do is

610
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:04.440
find a balance with production so that it's real. You

611
00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:08.039
can actually if if anybody had heard my isolated drums,

612
00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:12.760
I can hear my pedal actually moving, so nobody can.

613
00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:15.039
No one's gonna say, oh, that's a fake this and

614
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:18.800
fake drums? Well, what did I make a fake pedal?

615
00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:20.000
I know? Right?

616
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:23.559
You can actually hear it going zook, which you can't

617
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:26.960
really do with all the music, But you have to

618
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:32.480
engineer it so that it cuts through that wall. Especially

619
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:37.000
with rock on metal, the guitar is just an absolute

620
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:40.440
wall period, you know, most of the time.

621
00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:42.920
So that's a good way of putting it, for sure,

622
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:47.039
because most people they kind of don't understand that concept

623
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:50.519
and the way you put it, like that spot on

624
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:53.559
right there, you know, and it is kind of hard

625
00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:57.719
to match them together. It's like matching a square with

626
00:36:57.760 --> 00:36:59.159
a with a circle.

627
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:02.880
Yeah, it's it's it's it's interesting stuff. And for anybody

628
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:07.400
listening that knows the difference when they hear certain kinds

629
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:13.280
of music that like the bass drum, cannot possibly be real. Fully,

630
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:17.800
it just can't be because every hit is exactly the same,

631
00:37:18.039 --> 00:37:22.800
and it is not sound enhanced. It's often just sound replaced,

632
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:26.320
you know. And there are certain kinds of music like

633
00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:28.960
that just trigger, like the speed metal stuff. But let

634
00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:33.920
me give you an example with Monoliths where a moment

635
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:37.000
where I used my feet a certain way came up

636
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:41.239
and I kind of was taken back because I thought,

637
00:37:41.719 --> 00:37:45.159
am I missing a note that I you know, But

638
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:48.679
but the thing is we didn't sound replace the bass drum,

639
00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:52.239
and it's dynamics. So some of the moves like this

640
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:55.239
foot hit a little lighter than this the notes there,

641
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:58.920
you know, and there are you know, there are manipulations

642
00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:02.079
you could do to just get it so that it's heard,

643
00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:04.679
but you know, one has to be very careful with things.

644
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:07.679
So the point is that it's it's it's real. You

645
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:13.239
will hear these dynamics. But there's enough production post because

646
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:16.599
I know, because I engineered the drums and submitted the tracks,

647
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:19.559
it was like here they are, and then our other

648
00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:23.239
guy Gabo got them and did his little tweaking, and

649
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:26.800
then our mix engineer Dan got it and did what

650
00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:28.920
he did with you know, like he made the lasagna.

651
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:34.559
So he made the lasagna so very very well then

652
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:36.719
that's gotta be tough too of a mixed engineer that

653
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:40.079
people are submitting they're not giving you the raw tracks,

654
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:43.119
which you would prefer, because then you can then you

655
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:46.719
can really manipulate the sculpt it. How how how you

656
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:50.320
you hear it? But uh, in our case, it's stems

657
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:54.119
that are given, and it's a little bit more. It's

658
00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:56.119
a little bit more difficult, I think, and if I

659
00:38:56.239 --> 00:38:59.039
was a mixed engineer, But the bottom line is that

660
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:02.000
it's real that you hear and feel the dynamics, and

661
00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:06.079
that with production and a wall of sound. Uh, with

662
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:10.719
monolith andy a guitaris has dynamics, so it's not always

663
00:39:11.280 --> 00:39:13.440
it's not always like out there.

664
00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:18.559
Yeah yeah, And what you said about the pedals makes

665
00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:21.159
so much sense because I'm thinking about it. Okay, you're

666
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:25.119
playing double If you play double bass, one foot and

667
00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:27.800
one leg is stronger than the other, that's your more

668
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:31.519
dominant So it's kind of hard to have them both

669
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:35.800
do it exactly the same because nothing you do in

670
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:38.760
life is like that, you know, because you have your

671
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:41.320
stronger side.

672
00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:43.880
Always and I I you know, I made a career

673
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:48.079
out of flipping the drum kit around and learning to

674
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:52.400
play very strongly with quote my week side. But what

675
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:55.519
I found interesting for six to six years that I

676
00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:58.760
learned how to play the opposite way is that as

677
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:01.840
my week side go stronger and stronger and stronger and

678
00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:06.480
was able to match the velocity, my strong side got

679
00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:10.320
even stronger because my brain was sending a signal to

680
00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:12.480
this these limbs that were like I don't know what

681
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:14.960
to do, you know, So my brain's like bang bang

682
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:17.599
bang bang bang. So now this brain gets turned over

683
00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:20.800
to the to the strong side that with my right

684
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:22.840
foot in my right hand, except the signal from the

685
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:25.920
brain much more quickly, and like my speed went through

686
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:27.400
the roof from the right side, and I'm like, no

687
00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:30.639
matter what, my right's gonna beat up the left is

688
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:31.199
how it's.

689
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:32.800
Gonna be, just how it is, you know.

690
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:36.480
Like I also, I surf, I skateboard, and if I

691
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:40.400
try to do the opposite like I'm goofy, you know.

692
00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:43.800
And if I try to do normal or regular, I

693
00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:48.639
don't even know what I'm doing. My brain can't handle it.

694
00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:51.320
It's it's interesting that there's a there's a science to

695
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:55.320
training yourself to be as symmetrical as possible. If you

696
00:40:55.400 --> 00:40:58.519
go after the interview and you you take a good

697
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:01.480
look at some of the kits, drum kits that I've used,

698
00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:06.800
or you even go to my YouTube channel whatever, and

699
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:12.039
you see not my drum kit from Monolith or from

700
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:14.519
my last dream theater too. But if you go prior

701
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:18.079
to that, you'll see an absolutely symmetrical setup. And I

702
00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:22.360
have to be quote even on both sides. But as

703
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:25.639
you're saying, at the end of the day, you know

704
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:27.400
you still have your dominant side.

705
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:28.280
Anyway, no doubt.

706
00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:31.320
So is there anything else you want to tell the

707
00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:34.239
listeners about what's going on with Monolith or anything that

708
00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:35.880
we have not covered already.

709
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:41.559
No, we've covered it well except one thing that as

710
00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:46.840
far as our plans and things like that, we are

711
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:52.159
adjusting to this new environment that's out there. In other words, well,

712
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:54.199
we're not the first band. It's like, well, you know what,

713
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:57.079
we're not putting out. We're not going to put out

714
00:41:57.159 --> 00:41:59.800
some album. It's going to be released in a month

715
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:02.719
and you know, we'll do a little teaser and then

716
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:06.199
bang the album comes up. You will know, wait a minute,

717
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:10.679
we're gonna just collect the data, we're putting songs out, videos,

718
00:42:10.760 --> 00:42:13.440
We're just gonna keep doing it and we're gonna go

719
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:16.079
with the flow for this new world that we live in,

720
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:17.519
because it's not what it used to be.

721
00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:20.800
No, it's not, for sure, and so you're doing the

722
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:24.440
smart thing because he kind of blows my mind. They've

723
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:27.760
even changed how you should write songs nowadays, you know,

724
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:29.960
and because you're.

725
00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:30.840
Appealing to this.

726
00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:36.960
Low attention span goldfish attention span society we live in.

727
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:40.239
So it's like, some of my favorite metal songs ever

728
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:45.280
have the coolest intros that you would never get through nowadays.

729
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:47.639
Like you take a song like I was playing for

730
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:53.440
my grandson the other day, battery, Okay, most people listen.

731
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:55.679
I had to actually tell him just hold on, wait,

732
00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:59.119
you know, wait till you hear it, you know. And

733
00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:02.280
it's like, cause, are like, okay, that that doesn't sound good.

734
00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:05.559
Next, Yeah, I've had to do it too. It's like, well,

735
00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:08.079
just just give it a minute. They're like, the song

736
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:11.920
will be in in about a minute, right, the song,

737
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:15.639
it's like, and the music already started. You hit synthesizer,

738
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:20.119
you hear colors, you hear things going on. And in fact,

739
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:22.519
I did it in the class two days ago where

740
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:25.920
I had played the beginning of a particular song and

741
00:43:26.480 --> 00:43:28.760
it sounds like a helicopter at the beginning, and I

742
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:31.639
told everyone in the class, said that that's my feet.

743
00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:36.559
My feet are on these electronic high pedals, and but

744
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:39.559
it was put through an effect. It's like, which sounds

745
00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:42.239
like a helicopter, right, that's cool, and it's like we

746
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:44.280
but I'm like, whoa wait a minute, like I have

747
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:47.400
to make an excuse, going wait till wait till the

748
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:48.039
thing comes in.

749
00:43:48.079 --> 00:43:52.239
And it gets exciting, right exactly whereas we knew it

750
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:55.320
was gonna get to there, and we love the surprise

751
00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:58.280
of it. Like I remember the first time Let's saying

752
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:02.320
fast as a Shark, and it was like I would

753
00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:06.280
never nowadays, if I was young nowadays listen to that song, I.

754
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:08.639
Would be like, what the frick is this?

755
00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:13.800
And then but then it was like when it happened,

756
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:17.480
it's like, oh my god, that was the best thing ever,

757
00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:22.199
you know, and it's stuff like that, you know, that

758
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:26.400
is even the fact of you know, I was talking

759
00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:30.079
to somebody about this, Like in songwriting, they're teaching people, now,

760
00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:32.800
get rid of the intro, get rid of the solo,

761
00:44:33.039 --> 00:44:36.800
get rid of the bridge, don't do three verses or more.

762
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:38.239
It's only two verses.

763
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:42.960
And I'm thinking, wow, like you can't even sit through

764
00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:43.599
a song.

765
00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:46.920
Right, I know you gotta have it in a way.

766
00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:50.639
It's as you know, it's all about the song itself

767
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:55.000
and the music and everything behind it. Because two days ago,

768
00:44:55.639 --> 00:45:00.559
I just I listened to a bunch of Toto tracks

769
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:05.079
and it's like from the second, from the very second

770
00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:08.599
one of those songs starts, it pulls you and the groove.

771
00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:13.039
It's just like it's in. There's time that the song

772
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:16.559
does come of it. It's it's usually pretty quick and

773
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:21.840
they get you right there, but it's well done. It's like,

774
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:24.519
you know, as soon as you hear right, as soon

775
00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:27.920
as you hear beat It by Michael Jackson, I know

776
00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:30.880
that I can't wait for Eddie van Halen's guitar solo.

777
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:33.880
And it's like I will wait, I will wait till.

778
00:45:33.760 --> 00:45:37.599
I hear that, you know, but you know it was great.

779
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:43.000
You guys are badass, and I thank you for making

780
00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:45.360
such great music for us. And thanks for being on

781
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:46.400
the Adventures of pipe Man.

782
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:51.480
You are welcome and was an adventure. Thank you for

783
00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:57.079
listening to the Adventures of Pipe Man. I'm w for

784
00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:03.519
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