Jan. 12, 2025
PipemanRadio Interviews NILE at The Culture Room
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Hey, you have unto sensuu.
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Wow, pray you.
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Young ro.
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Whycoume of America. It's time for the Adventures of Pipeman
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on W four c Y dot com. West pomp Beats
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is number one internet radio station. Here's your host, The White.
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Man listens to pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe
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Man W four c Y Radio.
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And I'm here with.
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Carl from Yes So we talked back in June. I think, yeah,
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that's when it was June and at Grasspop. So here
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we are back in my home area where my radio
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studios are here in Fort Laurdale at the Culture Room.
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That's pretty cool. Like I got the email from Nate
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Palm Records. I'm like, oh, I gotta go to that
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show because that's right in hometown.
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It's very rare. I get that.
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Yeah, man, you can't ignore it when metal comes to your.
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Town, no doubt. And nobody really wants to come down
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here anymore. And I understand why. It's a drag. The
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state of Florida is so big to drive through, so
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it's like you gotta drive all the way down to
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drive all the way back up.
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You know. It's like that in Greece too, is it
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really to play in Greece, you got your choice. You
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can either ride the ferry from Italy or drive down
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from up north.
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Wow.
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And then and it's just like Florida. You got to
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turn right back around and head back the same path
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you just went through. But now you've already played the show,
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so there's no shows. But it's a dead.
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Drive, no doubt.
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Yeah, they don't like that. It's expensive.
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Yeah, and it's kind of be a drag for you
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guys because it's tough enough being on the bus sometimes
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and Florida is a boring drive, to be honest, Like,
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if you're.
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Going to drive, feel that way. I really I love
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driving down here.
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Well that's good.
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And it's January, so coman, it's.
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A good time to be in Florida for sure.
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My in laws live in Florida, so for Christmas we
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always come Florida. Nice escape the cold ass weather.
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Yeah, and you know what's funny about that. I keep
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laughing at people because I'm from the Northeast, So to me,
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this weather we're having today, which is like sixty seven degrees,
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is not cold, but Florinians are wearing parkas and scarves.
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Yeah, Oh it's pretty funny.
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But yeah, so you guys played in Orlando last night,
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you're hearing for Lawerdow, and then you'll be in Tampa
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tomorrow night. Perfect example what I'm talking about, because that's
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like playing ping pong of the whole state of Florida.
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At least we got a show on the way back,
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so it's not a dead drive.
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That's right, that's right, And so tell us what we
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can expect here tonight at the Culture Room.
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The Culture Room. Well, there's four bands here tonight, Nile six, Speed, Under, Psychicroptic,
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and Embryonic Autopsy.
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That was pretty good, because that is a mouthful, it is.
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It's gonna be a great show, though, Like, are there
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one of the bands that you're on tour with or
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just all of them that you dig being out in
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their show when you're done working.
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Well, we played last so that that doesn't get to
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happen when we're done working well.
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That's true.
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Yeah, that's well, that's that's the that's the bummer of
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being the headliner, right.
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I know, I really enjoy being a support band because
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you do get to see the show, right, right, You
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do have time to like see your friends at the
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bar and you know, say hi to fans and all that.
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So they're trade offs. You know, it's always greener on
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the other.
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Side, that's right. Always.
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So last time we talked, we talked about you had
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an album that was coming out, and now that album's
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been out. So how do you find, especially playing live
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shows that people are receiving the new album.
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A new album, people seem to really respond to it live.
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The new songs go over like a storm. Yeah, they're
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thought of fun to play and people seem to enjoy them.
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So okay, I bet, I bet.
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As an artist, it is fun to play the new music.
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I think a lot of listeners don't realize that. It's
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like when you're used to playing the same stuff over
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and over again. It's nice to have a breath of
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fresh air and play your new stuff right.
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Right, even when Zeppelin got tired of playing Stairway to Heaven. Right.
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As much as people love the song, and I'm sure
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they love it too, you know, you got to do
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things that move you forward and make you feel alive.
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Playing a new song or playing some new songs is
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that breath of life. Yeah, if you have to play
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the same songs that you've been doing for twenty five
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thirty years and that's all that you do. It's not alive,
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it's it's you know, it's there like a robot at
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that point, because yeah, because you could do it on autopilot,
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exactly right. It's all muscle memory. After a decade of
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playing any song, it's muscle memory. You don't have to
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even think about.
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It, exactly. It's just part of you, you know. That's
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why it's even strange to me sometimes when I see musicians,
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guitarists I will play for like twenty thirty years, and
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they still are looking at the notes that they're playing
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while they're playing. I'm thinking, man, that just must be
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like in your brain. You shouldn't even have to look
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at that.
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Point, right. Like Gary Holtz from Exodus, he never looks
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at his guitar. Nack, No, it's awesome.
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I love it.
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You just watch him and he's just like, he's not
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look at it all. To me, that's also the sign
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of a great guitarist, because you should know your craft
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well enough after that long that you don't need to look.
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You don't need to really, right, you know exactly. Having
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said that, though now all music is not necessarily easy
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to play. It requires a lot of concentration, so we
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kind of have to look. So there's kind of like
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a peripheral vision kind of thing.
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Yeah, you know, where you can see your hand, you
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can see the guitar neck in your field division or
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you know, conversely, if you're trying to sing while you play,
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you know, you have to reverse that.
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I always find that to be I'm in awe of
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people that sing and play because it's like rubbing your
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tummy and your head at the same time. You know,
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It's like I had a hard enough time when I
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was younger playing each instrument by themselves, much less doing
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two different things.
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You got to get the one thing well enough where
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you don't have to think about it, which you know,
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just if you do it enough times and understand where
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your hand moves and when your mouth moves, and where
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those two cross paths, like the nexus point right right
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or the anchor point, and that's what you do, like
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you just lock the two points together and the rest
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you work in between. Yeah.
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Absolutely, So. Do you have any story that is like
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the wildest story from your whole career of doing this?
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Yeah, there are things I'd love to tell you, but
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better not.
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Are there any that you can tell, because there's a
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lot I'm sure you can't tell, like sometimes sticks out
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of your mind. That happened even in the very beginning
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that you're just like is implanted into your.
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Brain, implanted into my brain. Well, probably the first couple
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of tours that we did here in America, we did
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that year nineteen ninety eight. We did three tours of
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Norban Angel, did a tour Cannibal Corpse. We did Death
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across America with Gorguts and Cryptopsy You Oppressor. And there
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was a moment at the very beginning of that first
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Morbid Angel tour where we had driven in our van
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all the way across the States and we were somewhere
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by the ocean near Seattle, on the highway side of
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the road. It was like a cliff looked out over
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the ocean, and we stopped because we were tired, you know,
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we're taking turns driving in and me and Peter Mora
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stood and looked out at the ocean and there was
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this just incredible feeling like wait a minute, our music
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took us all the way across the continent and now
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we're looking at the Pacific Ocean. Music did that our
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jobs at the factory but you know, before we did
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the band that would have never made that possible. Music
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made that possible. And if you think that a step further,
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music fans made that possible. True. Absolutely, it was a
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profound moment for us where we realized, yes, it is possible.
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If you work hard enough and you know, give the
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people what it is they want, you can do things.
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I love that you say work hard enough, because to me,
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your job is as fun as it is, like the
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most work possible. And I don't think people realize that.
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They think it's just all like fun and games. That's
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a piece of it, But there's a lot more. That's
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just a lot of work, a lot of practice, a
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lot of dedication, a lot of going through a lot
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of crap to get to the point.
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If someone had fully explained to me all the life
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sacrifices that you would have to make if you want
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to make music your life, it would have probably sobered
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up my young, naive mind. Right. Just for instance, like
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my kid, my son, he plays guitar, nice, fairly talented.
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I didn't encourage him to take up music as a career, right,
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Music do it because you love it, but making a
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career out of it expecting to live by it. That's
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a tough road, especially today, especially today, like the odds
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against succeeding have grown ten thousand bold. There's so many
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bands now that you know, just getting a foothold is
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really tough. So, you know, hats off to all the
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young bands who are sticking out and making themselves known
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bringing music to the people. That's you know, was all
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different ballgame when we were coming.
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Up, well, TWILD because I think of that often, you know,
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like I think of the days that I was hanging
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out with bands in the early eighties and how they
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got their music out and what they had to do
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compared to what bands have to do nowadays. And oh
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my god, it's like twenty times the amount of work
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to be a band nowadays. Like you know, we had
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to tape training days. We had the newspaper circulars and
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you didn't have to go out there and do all
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this social media and all this and that. Like there's
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like so many different jobs that didn't exist that you
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have to.
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Do all the work.
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Right, the work has been transferred back onto the people, yes, right,
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you know, it's part of the technology and information age
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that we're living in. You can find a path pretty
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quick to getting yourself out there, put you know, take
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out your Facebook and your Instagram, your TikTok. But getting
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people to care about whatever it is you do. There's
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a I like to think of it as a tsunami
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wave of indifference because there are so many options. Yeah,
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if you see, you know, in your feed a band
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that seems interesting and you click on it, how many
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seconds are you willing to listen to it before you
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just click on something else.
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I think of some of my favorite songs that if
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they came out today and I was a kid today,
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I probably would have never heard the whole song, like
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right fast as a Shark, Like we've never gotten through
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the intro, We've been next track, battery, next track, Like
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there was a song I was listening to the other day.
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The intro was like a minute long of like mellow
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and then it went like insane. Right, nobody would ever
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get to the insane part nowadays, you know.
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Right, we certainly have shortened the attention span.
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I've even talked to people like about the songwriting process
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and how it's different today to compensate for that short
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attention span. So like get ready of to intro, get
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ready to bridge, get rid of solo two verses instead
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of three, you know, stuff like that.
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Dude, it's become so formulaic. Ye, exactly, Like even AI
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apps can write great songs. Like we'll be laughing around
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after the show and drinking beers whatever, and some be
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able to say something stupid and some other person will go, hey,
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that'd be a pretty good country song. And then someone
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else will whip out their little app and turn whatever
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stupid words that was into a great country song, right,
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indistinguishable from anything that you would hear on national country
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