PipemanRadio Interviews Red Fang at Welcome to Rockville 2024

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here with Brian Giles of Red Fang. Thanks for having me pipe Man.

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Oh pleasure, great to have you
here at Welcome to Rockville, man.

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I you know, I do so
many festivals. I can't even remember after

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time. But have you played Rockville
before? No? I don't. We

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haven't done Rockville, but we I
want to say it's we're next week we're

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doing Sonic Temple. Yeah so,
and we've done Sonic Temple in the past.

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Did you do it when it was
Rock on the Range or Sonic Temple?

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Rock on the Range? There you
go, all right, yeah,

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way back? Yeah, there it
is. And so how does it feel

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to be here playing at the Daytona
International Speedway? Is that or what this

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is? This is? This is
the most famous place to take a left

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in the world. I think I
know, right, and like it's pretty

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wild too, Like you drove on
the raceway right when you first came to

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load in. Yeah, yeah,
we didn't. We didn't break any any

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records, right, we did.
We we did like a pace car kind

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offect. It felt good, nice, nice, Like where can you do

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that when you're loading in for a
festival? Right? And you know what,

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I well it makes sense. But
just looking at the wall, like

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you know the turns you know there, the embankments are severe. I mean

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it's halfway to like vertical that that
wall. It's not like you see on

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TV, like when you see this
wall face to face, right, It's

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like how are they riding on that? If you want to stand on the

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on the top end of the curve, you're gonna fall down. It's I

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mean, it's a it's a drop. It's crazy. I guess, uh,

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you know since it's like a centrifuge
keeps you, keeps you on there.

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Yeah. Well you know what they
say that you have to at least

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be going eighty miles per hour to
not fall off the wall. Okay,

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well that's that's good. So there
you go. Now here, I'll give

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you a trivia question. I've asked
a lot of other artists. Do you

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know why the seats are all colored? Poor attendants? They want to make

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it look like the stands are full. Nice, That's exactly the reason is

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it. It's to make it look
like the stands are full. Damn I'm

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good, I know right, I
was right off the dome. Now,

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you know it's weird. Now if
I watch it on TV, I'm gonna

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look for that ship. Oh yeah, it's like all that red chair is

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definitely wasted. Right, And so
tell us what's going on that the listeners

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need to know anything new? Like
obviously you're here at Rockville, you'll be

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at Sonic Temple next week. What
else is going on? Well, we've

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just got this is if just the
first shows we're doing today we played,

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and then we're doing We're filling the
week between this and and Sonic Temple with

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some co ha heyline shows a Baroness
And I've been Winston Salem Dance for tomorrow

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and then up as far as New
Jersey and then back down down to Columbus.

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So I'm looking forward to those club
dates Nice and Baroness, you know,

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I mean, we've played a lot
of festivals and cross paths and played

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shows together off and on over the
years, but never never did it,

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you know, honest to goodness.
You know, well, mini tour,

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but a tour. So I think
that's gonna be good night. And I

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think that young the young people will
enjoy it. I don't know, you

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tell me. I think music,
no matter what, is enjoyable. Especially

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I feel like our crossover, you
know, it's a good crossover. I

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think there's some people that are big
into Baroness. I don't know who the

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hell we are and versus Visa.
So I think it'll be it'll be nice.

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It'll be a nice little I think
it is kind of cool. And

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Baroness has like this cultish following,
so maybe you'll get a new cultish following

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from that tour. Yeah, man, you never know. So you know,

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we're out here and I still love
doing it, so so that and

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then well, I guess we go. We're gonna do a West Coast run

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and end of July into July or
end of June into July, and then

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we'll do a European festival tour,
so you know. And it was just

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kind of it's a pandemic. It
just kind of screwed up our whole you

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know, our rhythm and everything.
So it's just nice to be out on

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the road again, like everybody right, you know. And and then once

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you get back out on the road
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You can't get used to it again, you know. After that yeah,

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oh yeah, I mean, well, just getting used to going to

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a place and talking to people.
Right a second, I was like,

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wait a minute, small talk eh, you know, so you know,

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I guess I'm the I'm with small
talk again, so right, And then

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there's the other thing, Like I
remember the first show right after the pandemic.

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I was stand back sage looking out
at this crowd down in South Florida,

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looking at this crowd sweating starting,
and I'm like it looked like a

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Petri dish to me. At that
point, I was still institutionalized with the

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COVID stuff. And then, you
know, but once that comfort, I'm

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like, thank god, I'm back, like we're There's no better therapy than

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music. And I think we should
have had live music during that lockdown.

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Why, because I think that's why
everybody was so angry and pissed and depressed

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and everything else, because they had
no outlet. Oh I agree, and

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you know, and a nice thing. You know. I think our first

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we did a we did a US
Canada tour before that was our first thing.

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You know, we had this album
come out. It was we put

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that off like for a year and
a half because of because of the pandemic,

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and we're like, what do we
put out a record with no tour

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support? Seems dumb? Right then
that thing lasted so long We're like,

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fuck it, We're putting the record
out. But and so then finally did

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tour, you know, twenty twenty
two. I guess that was And anyway,

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the support was was crazy. I
was, it was really it made

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me feel really good. And I
feel like this is this is you know,

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not just for us, and I
think just I think people were starved

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for it. And I think that
it's something that I and I think I

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appreciate live music more too, because
it's something that you just it's your lifestyles,

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you know, it's what you do, it's your you know, it's

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your culture or whatever. And then
for it to go away, you realize

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how how vitally really it is important
for me anyway to go see you know,

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to commune with other musicians and to
see you know, a set happened,

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whether it's a disaster or you know, masterpiece, doesn't matter and care.

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It's just watching human beings get together
and do that. And then and

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to share a room with other people
that you know appreciate the same things you

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do. It's a it's a it's
a beautiful thing. And so when we

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went out back out again, it
was just crazy that the outpouring the energy

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that we were getting back was just
insane. And so anyway that that was

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real helpful, and so anyway to
any of you. It came out to

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many of our shows and showed us
that kind of love. It made a

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difference and appreciate it, and yeah, man, I love it. And

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you know I've said all along,
if you're gonna take a positive out of

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that whole lockdown for the artists,
there's two sides, artist and attendee listener.

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For the artists, you guys were
on such a hamster wheel for such

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a long time that like, I
think it's a recharge. You know,

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you got to get off the hamster
wheel and get creative again. It's almost

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like you were going through the motions
leading up, not you specifically, but

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just in general. Because you're going
stop to stop to stop, and deadlines

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to write these albums, and then
it's like finally a time where you could

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sit down and really evaluate where you
want your music to go, right,

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yeah, you know. Yeah.
And I did some real crazy shit during

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the I mean I learned how to
do home recording and I did some real

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crazy shit, you know. And
I was like, well, this is

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probably not safe for human consumption,
but I really enjoyed it, and it

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was it was a creative time for
me the pandemic, you know. I

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mean I would have preferred to get
in a room with my guys and you

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know, to hammer it out in
person. That's the best, you know.

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But I was like, well,
I'm gonna explode if I don't do

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something. So I, you know, kind of taught myself how to record,

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got some rudimentary recording equipment in my
basement, and now I can do

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that. So see that worse There
you go, dog new trick. That's

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it cool. And for the listeners, I think before the pandemic, how

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I describe it, but people were
just whiny, like they would complain at

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every festival, complain at every show. This is lamb lamba, And I

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think it's an all new appreciation of
what they miss. I fully agree with

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you. Yeah, you know,
it's it's amazing that you know, these

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massive things like like today is you
know that it's happening again. That's that's

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awesome. You know exactly knew it
would, But when it was happened,

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when you know, in the middle
of that whole pandemic, it's like,

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will it yeah? Is this just
I am? I It's gonna be you

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know, he's trapped in this house
forever and ever. It's kind of a

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points it felt like it was never
gonna end, you know, and every

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time every time, you know,
we we booked tours, and then there

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would be the delta variant, like
Son of a Bitch is like for a

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while there, you know, I'd
be like, well, instead of talking

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about oh I toured with that band, now it's like, oh, yeah,

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I canceled a tour with them.
Oh yeah, we were. We

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canceled tour with them too, We're
supposed to go on tour. It was

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crazy, the laundry list of exciting
things that didn't happen because of that fucking

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who was the best band you had
to cancel on tour with? Oh geez,

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I don't know. I mean,
we had some really cool lineups when

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you put me on the spot.
See that. Yeah, as soon as

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this interview is over, I'll have
a list for you. Yeah, you'll

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you'll remember as soon as we shut
the mic off. Yeah, that's how

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it goes, what Europeans. I
stared in the fridge and being like,

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well, I knew I opened the
door for some reason. Or where are

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my keys in your hand? Buddy? No that, or I did this

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early? And where's my sunglasses?
Yeah, you know where they are exactly.

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So tell everybody how they can reach
out to you guys on socials,

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on the web, get your merch
check out all the things you got going

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on. Well, I think the
best way to get stuff from us is

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probably either straight through our record label, Relapse, or our first album is

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on Sergeant House and you can reach
out to them directly, or band camp.

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I'm a strong believer in band camp. I think that's the best way

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to support whatever, but not you
know, not necessarily our band, but

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any band. I think that's the
the best way these days to really show

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your support for the band directly and
that it actually goes to them. You

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know, I'm just talking about you
know, the proliferation of fake merch out

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there. You know these companies like
Red Bubble or whatever, these things are

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just they're leeches, and it's like
do I would just suggest that, just

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in general, just find out just
who it is making that T shirt and

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if and if you see a throw
pillow by some band you love, it

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is like, did the band really
think make a throw pillow is gonna be

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a good idea? Right before you
hit by? Just find out where it's

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coming from. Anyway. Yeah,
we're on Instagram and fan Facebook, so

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if you you know, I'm a
big proponent of that because it kind of

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passes me off. People don't realize
that, especially nowadays, merch is the

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only way that you guys get from
show to show to show. Forget making

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money, It's just how you get
the next stunted, and tragically these days

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it's not even music. It's exactly
what fills your gas tank is soft goods,

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T shirts, you know, beer, koozies, this booble bobbles,

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that's weird shit. That's how we
fill our guesst like, that's how we

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live, so exactly, So buy
some stupid crap right in your local rock

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band from the rock band, Yes, straight from the knuckleheads themselves. That's

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I love. What Like, I'm
very outspoken. So when I leave like

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concerts festivals and I see those guys
outside selling the fucking bootleg shirts, I

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give them shit. Yeah, Like
they'll come to like how much are you

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giving to the band? And they
don't know what to say at that point.

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We just recently played a Latin American
tour and we played it where I

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guess it was Monterey anyway, the
club, you know, just their their

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you know, intellectual property laws are
not as hardcore as they are you know

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in the States or some other places, So you know, knockoffs, that's

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just how it goes. And so
I remember being in the green room was

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like above the street in front,
and there was like a block and a

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half of red fangear, and I
was just like, damn, that's like

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a whole ecosystem of people. And
I was like, well, whatever,

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they need to make money, I
understand it. I'm not going to go

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down and give them any kind of
shit. But what I did feel bad

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for it was this one gall in
particular, had had bootlegged one of our

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shirts that sold particularly poorly. I
was like, oh, you fucked up,

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lady should have ripped off. It
never won because there had no customers.

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I was like, I could have
told you, Oh man, that's

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good. So from now on,
if you're a bootleg or you gotta reach

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out to the band, they get
your research. Yeah, do your research,

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you know, make sure make sure
you're stealing the Primo stuff right,

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good god? Oh man, So
is there anything you want to share with

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the listeners we haven't covered already?
No. I mean, if you're out

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here on the East Coast in the
next week and you want to come see

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us in a small venue, I
think those shows of barness are gonna go

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off. I think it's gonna be
that's gonna be sweaty, real good time.

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So what do you like? I
won't say better, because both sides

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are better. But what do you
like about a club show versa festival or

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big stadium and vice versa. Well, well, I think this is not

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uncommon, but you know, it's
a small venue. You feel more connected

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to the crowd, The crowd feels
more connection to you, the sound is

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more encompassing, so you feel it's
more like a full body experience, you

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know, yeah, you know,
And then you're likely to break in an

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armor a little higher in the club. So that for better worse, that's

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true. And so and I grew
up, you know, doing clubs,

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so that's just I feel more comfortable
in a smaller venue versus one of these

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things. And you know, and
I think, whether it's required or not,

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I've never been a very much of
a cheerleader, you know, as

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far as like, hey, everybody
in the lefts go yay, I'm not

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doing that shit. I can't be
no, I won't do it. But

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anyway, I'm just glad that people
will listen to our music anyway, you

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know. But it's a different skill
set, I think, and I just

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never really learned how to do it. I'm like, well, we'll just

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play songs and see what happens.
That's our approach. Well for me.

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Like the first club show I ever
went to in ninth it was nineteen eighty

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Sunset Strip the Roxy Motley Crue before
they had an album, first club show

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ever. They weren't glam yet,
glam yet. Had you heard of them

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or did somebody say, hey man, you got to see this band.

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I just saw their picture. Their
flyer was everywhere in La You know,

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like they were the best marketers ever. I'm like, those fuckers look cool

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because they weren't through the nose for
pr or something like that. No,

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no, that it was total grassroots
man. Dudes drink Kinko's all night.

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Zero. I used to hang out
with Mick Mars and Zero. They were

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And then you saw them all over
La staatepling to the telephoam poles and ship

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like that, and they looked cool. Then that was before they were glam.

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They were more like horror punk.
Yeah, man, I mean their

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their look on Too Faster Love and
Shouted the Devil. Man. I bought

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into a hook line and singer.
I must be a little younger than you,

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you know, but that was I
was seventh grade, I guess when

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when Shouted the Devil came out and
I was like, this is scary man.

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Whatever that that was your beginning,
whatever that track is, Yeah,

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dude, there's some scary shit and
I totally bought into it. I mean

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I was like, these dudes are
dangerous. These are a dangerous group of

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guys. And originally they were,
you know, because chat at the Devil

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was their original music, not Too
Fast for Love, and they when I

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saw him at the Roxy. They
tried to burn the Roxy down to bring

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Satan in and I was like,
I'm never going to a real concert ever

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again. That was the fast and
it is for us as the listeners,

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Like you're talking about that intimate experience. That's what I love about clubs because

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I am. I made friends with
so many bands back in the eighties that

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because just being at the club,
Like I went to Metallica's first show ever

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and Mustaine came out and started talking
to me afterwards. I'm fifteen years old.

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It's like, oh, yeah,
so cool. When would that happen?

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You know, Yeah, nobody's got
a no eye contact clause and if

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they're playing the Roxy, you know
exactly. And to your point too about

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the sound or the feeling, to
me, ma washing to the music and

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a club has way more connection than
at a festival. In other words,

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when you're up close and that sound
is pounding on you. There the washing,

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I think it's just way more intense. Yeah, And I think people

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are just more it's more of a
family feeling where it's like someone goes down

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to feel like people are more likely
to pick you up in a small venue

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because you are You're like a little
small family of people that are always experiencing

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this thing together where you know,
festfo like this. There's a lot of

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really good people out there that are
looking at for each other and stuff.

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But also there's some people that see
it as like, oh, I'm anonymous,

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so I can behave poorly, you
know, so you're exactly right.

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And you know what else too,
is there's people that wouldn't go to those

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club shows because they're not really metal
heads or whatever. They end up at

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a festival or usually the big dudes, they see these mash pits and they

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want to show how macho and tough
day all right, Like, oh I

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can win the mush pit. Yeah, there's no winning, dude, No

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no having a good time. If
you're having a good time, you're winning.

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What's funny about that, though,
is like the little dudes like me

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and I'm big now compared to why
I was back as a teenager. Yeah,

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I'm the one that comes around the
pit like down low, like Mike

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Tyson really fast and I come take
out that big dude with elbow and he

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didn't even know what hit him and
I'm already on the other side. Well,

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yeah, I mean some of these
guys they got a date. You

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know, they have some decorum people. That's right. So man, Rockville,

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you guys rock here and you're going
to rock it at Sonic Temple.

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You want to give any final word
store listeners, No, just stay awesome

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out there and Hydra That's what I
say, hydraate definitely here. You know

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how many people last night I saw
like I was up, you know,

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in the pit by the stage and
they were bringing so many people out on

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stretchers because it was so hot.
Yeah, so it's no. Definitely got

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hi. Dra. Well, you
guys killed it here at Welcome to rock

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Bille. Thanks for having me and
thanks for being on the Adventures pipe Now

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awesome enjoy the rest of the weekend. To thank you for listening to the

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