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at Welcome to Rockville. Like,
are you still kind of pinching yourself that

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you're in the Daytona Speedway doing the
middle of a speedway? What doing the

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gig? Yeah? Like just a
gig? When does that fucking happen?

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Yeah, it's pretty massive. It's
like, I mean you walk in there's

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like this entire like campsite full of
trailers that are just like it's probably like

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a mile wide, and you have
to got to get through that whole thing

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to get to the fest like the
campground. Yeah, seeing the slanted road.

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We were driving right and seeing the
slanted I was like, that's crazy.

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Did you see where it's like completely
vertical. Yes, so you gotta

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go at least a eighty miles per
hour to even get on it, like

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or else. You're just we've heard
so many conflicting facts about the Daytona.

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I know that everyone's like, you
gotta be going two hundred miles per hour

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to get around that. I've heard
that one today once too, and it's

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like everyone's this is rumors. We
were just talking about this. This is

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how rumors start. And it's like
the game of telephone. Do you guys

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know the game of telephone? Right? Like, so it happens in this

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whole environment. It's like somebody out
here might say, oh, they were

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a shitty interview, and then it'll
go around everybody and next thing, you

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know, the last thing is the
dude punch me in the face in the

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interview, right you know. So
I have a trivia question for you guys.

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I've done with every band. See
the colored seats up there? Why

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are they colorable? Nice? It's
yeah, it's so on TV. It

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looks like the stands stands are full. Yeah, that's so crazy, because

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when we got here the first time, I was like, oh, it

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looks like there's people in the stands. Say that's crazy. It's wild,

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right, Like who thought of that? Because it is you thought that's what

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it was. So it's like who
actually figured out the science that that would

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work? Yeah, even like when
you take glances, it's like is there

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someone there? Right? A little
cardboard just cutouts? That would be funny

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as ship. But remember during lockdown
that they did do that for shows,

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like when they were doing the live
streams and ship. Yeah, they were

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doing that. They were like putting
cutouts like there's like people in the stand

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we baseball, you know, and
there's like the people in the stands in

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the audience, right, totally crazy. Look at that fucking tattoo? See

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that? Like that's what I'm saying. How I do interviews? Like squirrel?

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Something just caught my eye. I'm
like, look at that fucking tattoo.

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I feel like I want to play
a video game now, like Millipede

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or Centipede? How that happen?
What's what's the video game called what we

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called Syndicate? Yeah, yeah,
there was a game called Centipede and then

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the two point zero version what's called
Millipede? Really? Yeah, look it

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up trivia question for you. Yeah, And the difference between a centipede and

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a millipede. Yeah, one hundred
thousand. Yeah. Wow, you look

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at that. You can see whenever
they're on the ground. The one that

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guys, guys, this is like, this is like sophomore level math.

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Come on, we're back in science
class. It took I mean they're easy

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question. How many people do you
think can answer that? Hey, mister

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wizard, what makes the color of
the speedway have red seats? Oh?

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Man, I gotta say something funny. We were talking about driving around the

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speedway, Like, Okay, so
I have my skateboard with me, and

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last year I was like percent runs
media. I'm like, you think I

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might lose my creds if I go
right on that wall with my skateboard and

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she's like, I don't think you
should do that. I'm like okay.

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And then this year I'm like,
well maybe after slipknot if I break my

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arm. I break my arm,
it's worth it. I feel like you

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need one of those electric skateboards to
go around this thing. Fucking cool.

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Yeah, if you stand at the
top of that vertical wall, in all

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seriousness, you will fall down,
So like gain on a skateboard. And

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then I thought about it, okay, Like even if I do get down

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the wall, as soon as you
hit the ground, you're eating shit,

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okay, because there's no like smooth
like it's like boom like where you're going.

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You bet you're gonna have to like
do an ali all the bottom to

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get going, which is just right. And there's like those like tubes that

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come in. We're like, is
so sick to ride London skates so nice?

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There's like a bunch of cool little
flat walls. Yeah, well little

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skate obstacles. Did you bring your
board? No, because we weren't here

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for long enough. But when you
go on tour, I'm going to bring

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a board. I'm just not going
to get hurt. Lario put it out

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there. I'm afraid, same same
word anywhere we Yeah, Grandma, I

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used to skate a little bit.
We never got super good, but I

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got really afraid of injuring myself and
like not being able to do music.

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Yeah, you can't be a skateboarder
if you're afraid of injuring yourself. It's

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like when I was taking ice skating
lessons from you know, advance from he

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goes you never fall, that's bad. I'm like, why is that bad,

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like, because you're not going to
get better unless you eat shit.

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Ye. Well, we weren't doing
music and we were falling a lot,

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and we were eating a lot of
shit and I kept like hurting my wrists

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and then we started doing music and
I was like, oh fuck, yeah,

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I can't. Yeah, well,
if you were falling a lot,

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then that was your message, like
skateboarding your vibe, man, like that

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ain't your jam? Stick with music? Tony Hawk, he he ain't worried

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about you at all. Good playing
skate three play guitar. Honestly, I

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think he actually, yeah, i've
seen him perform with bands man. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, he actually sang
on a Nina Nails cover this year

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or two. I forgot what they
did. I think it was had like

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a hole, but yeah, it
was like a little super group Instagram thing

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where they're I think I saw that. I love I love everything that I

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see about Tony Hawk. It's just
really funny him in this day and age,

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because it's like he's like the most
He's like the best kind of celebrity

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where it's like no one knows who
you are, but everyone knows who you

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are totally him randomly. It's just
like regular. And how about all those

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people that think he's just a video
game. Yeah, I'm sure it is,

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like think about it. So they
keep like he's like tweeting all the

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time. He's like Jesus got guys. I literally just go anywhere I want

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and no one ever recognizes me because
like I'm Tony Hawk, but they just

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they know my name more than they
know my face exactly. So tell us

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a little bit about your band,
what you know, what you're all about

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and and not a genre? How
do you as artists describe your music?

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I think like vocal and like I
don't know, like songwriting, like heavily

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influenced, like songwriting, nineties inspired
grunge rock, no genre, no genre.

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Okay, here you take like if
this were like a game show,

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you have already been eliminated and he's
already on top of the heap for like

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he hit his buzzer quick for those
seats next you were, yeah, you

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were kind of you were kind of
doing it. It's very it's very oh

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god, no genre is so fucking
hard. He's inspired. We like it

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heavy, whether it's lyrically or sonically. Yeah, those two go together.

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The sound matches the lyricism, and
it's all just very congruent imagery. That's

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cool. Dark for sure, we
keep it in the shadows. And I

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like the congruent part because I didn't. There was somebody that played recently and

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I'm like, yeah, no,
uh, and their song just didn't make

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sense because right because the way they
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they were forcing it. Like a
good lyricist will write the lyrics and tell

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the story, but they'll sound like
a wave opposed to trying to make words

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sound like it fit in, you
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differently or whatever. There's times you
have to, but this was like the

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whole song, it was like it
just it wasn't matching. It was like

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making my brain like it's the difference
between like, it's a difference between like

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Kurt Cobain like making up words to
fit in his song right that you could

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call that gibberish, but it's artistic
gibberish totally. That's the difference where of

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like good songwriting to trying to fit
the square peg in the round hole,

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right, instead of taking a word
that maybe it should be if you were

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just writing it or whatever, and
trying to make it like have the same

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sound of what it should be instead
of what it is. So I mean

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I love that. That's why I
love most of all of what you said

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there, because yes, the lyrics
and the music should match. Like if

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you had no lyrics and you were
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lyrics and didn't hear the music,
you would know it was the same song.

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Yeah, you're so right. Your
brain should be able to fill all

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that in. And yeah, and
I think people people are very smart in

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the sense that they can sniff that
out, even if they're not music people.

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You know, it's it's just it's
people that are fans of stuff.

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You're not really sure why you're a
fan of something. Yeah, you just

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are, whether or not you're in
music, and you can explain sonically why

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the song tickles your brain. And
I think that's hard to fool people if

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you're not being genuine about it,
right, And that's why the only way

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to do it is to be genuine
about it. Then you're doing exactly like

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what you're saying. And I just
thought something just now. I thought about

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it of like, you know how
people always like they think the lyrics are

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something else. Yeah, I think
that's the key of a good song.

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Oh yeah, because you're saying these
words that probably aren't supposed to be in

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there, but they sound so good
in the song that people think it's other

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words, you know what. I
that this goes hand in hand with I

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think a really good way to write
songs is to not really be very picky

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about your lyrics from the start.
And this is how we write songs a

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lot of the time, where you
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decide on a progression, you're happy
with a chord progression or some sort of

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riff or something, and then you
don't really say words. You're just kind

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of like putting vowels and things together
to make sense, and sometimes a phrase

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or two gets out and you ride
with that. But it's really nice to

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start with like not words like just
gibberish. Yeah, to tell you how

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many like voice memon as I have
in my phone. That's just like I

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don't really know what I'm saying,
but then I listen back to it,

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and I'm like, and I get
words after the facts, you know,

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just based on the way that your
mouth movements and the way that it sounds.

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Yeah, it's like it kind of
makes you. Yeah, just like

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think of it like organic song.
That's a crazy organic songwriting experience that we

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both have had. That's like,
you know, we write separately and we

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write together, but we both like
had that same feeling. See and that

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that is a cool way that you
put it, because that is I can

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picture it as you were saying.
It's like, first get the sound right,

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then make the word. And it
makes sense to you now why like

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you find different words right? Why
you hear a song and you think they're

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saying something different? Yeah, how
about that we cracked the code. Cracked

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the code. Look at that.
It's far from cracked. It like it's

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it's something ethereal. I think if
you have you ever read Rick Rubin's book

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is part of it. Yeah.
I mean I feel like everyone that I

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talked to is like I started it
right, because like you get a couple

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of chapters in and you're like,
this guy's so glooy, this is dense

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and he's like he's yapping, dude, yapping the whole time. The way

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that the song is placed as a
seed. Don't get us wrong, we

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love oh no, dude, everyone
likes everyone loves Rick Rubin everything. It's

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okay to tear him down, because
everyone loves genius. He's a genius,

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he really is. You can't He's
gotten he's gotten enough praise. And I've

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read his book, and I've read
his book, so I agree with like

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so much of what he's saying about
how it's like you're pulling from something that's

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like larger than you. You're just
like this like antenna. It's like in

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tune with the with the world around
you, and like sometimes these radio frequencies

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come by and just like lend themselves
to you for a second, and it's

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up to you to be like ready
with a guitar in your hand and with

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like you know, you're you're down
at a pad to write some stuff down,

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to harness that energy and turn it
into something. You're just borrowing the

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energy that's out in the world.
What a great concept. I love that.

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Actually I finished the book. Everyone, if you've started it, I've

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actually I've never I've never read the
book. So well, now you have

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to, and now I have to
because I just like at work, you

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know, just thinking to myself because
I'm so bored. I've thought, like,

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man, where does music like truly
come from? I have enough time

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to think something like that, you
know. So I'm like, man,

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where does like where does the idea
of like high out of my mind?

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You know, sweeping the floors,
pushing the car like crazy, you know,

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in the clouds. But I've like, where does music come from?

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And I've come to the conclusion like
it's got to be like God given someone

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this idea, something given probably you
know, dogs aren't real, so we

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don't know. But it's like someone's
got to be giving these people ideas to

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come up with such great music.
And to think of that the variety of

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how much great music there is,
you know, like think of like clips

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of Dover and then think of like
Humble by Kendrick Lamar, like just two

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such amazing songs or like great example, yeah, like radio Head, Radiohead,

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and then like Metallica. It's like, oh my god, sothing else.

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It's all these artists. Sorry,
no, it's it's okay. Please.

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All these artists pull it from somewhere. And really the best artists are

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the ones who are most in tune
with their antenna and can best pick up

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this these like these like frequencies from
this energy from the world and you developed

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them. That is that why your
debut album is so fucking badass. We

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have written not too long because you
guys, go, do is is she?

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Yeah, she gave me the but
that's okay, we'll have more.

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Well, we've written a lot of
songs before the debut album. I mean

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those songs that we wrote that are
on the album are like two or three

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years older, Like we wrote them
two or three years ago, and there

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is way more before that, and
there's way more after it, and we

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just you know, it's an ever
evolving process. I mean, it's just

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like everything. That's the way this
diary entry. But you should get better

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at it every time. Well,
we'll have to continue this again because you

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guys are great, and just tell
everybody real quick how they can connect you

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on socials, get the new music, check tour gate and dates by your

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merch and all that website, Instagram, TikTok all social media, yeah,

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all social media. Return to Dust
or return to Dust band one of the

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two. Everywhere. Yeah, you
cannot not find our name. We are

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everywhere. Bibles, We're in the
Bible. There you go. They are

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literally ever everywhere, including Welcome to
Rockville, and thanks guys for being here,

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and thanks for being on the Adventures
of pipe Man. Thank you,

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