PipemanRadio Interviews Return To Dust at Welcome to Rockville 2024

0:04 Hey, you have done to censure. I'm see wow cra Young ro Why Up America. It's time for the Adventures of pipe Man on W four C why dot com West pomp Beats is number one Internet radio station. Here's your host, the pipe Man. Small not caes game going, I killed Dista game game. This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man W four C Y Radio. And I'm here with Return to Dust. We got London, Maddie Graham and Sebastian Nice. Return to Dust. Thank you here at Welcome to Rockville. Like, are you still kind of pinching yourself that you're in the Daytona Speedway doing the middle of a speedway? What doing the gig? Yeah? Like just a gig? When does that fucking happen?

1:30 Yeah, it's pretty massive. It's like, I mean you walk in there's like this entire like campsite full of trailers that are just like it's probably like a mile wide, and you have to got to get through that whole thing to get to the fest like the campground. Yeah, seeing the slanted road. We were driving right and seeing the slanted I was like, that's crazy. Did you see where it's like completely vertical. Yes, so you gotta go at least a eighty miles per hour to even get on it, like or else. You're just we've heard so many conflicting facts about the Daytona. I know that everyone's like, you gotta be going two hundred miles per hour to get around that. I've heard that one today once too, and it's like everyone's this is rumors. We were just talking about this. This is how rumors start. And it's like the game of telephone. Do you guys know the game of telephone? Right? Like, so it happens in this whole environment. It's like somebody out here might say, oh, they were a shitty interview, and then it'll go around everybody and next thing, you know, the last thing is the dude punch me in the face in the interview, right you know. So I have a trivia question for you guys.

2:47 I've done with every band. See the colored seats up there? Why are they colorable? Nice? It's yeah, it's so on TV. It looks like the stands stands are full. Yeah, that's so crazy, because when we got here the first time, I was like, oh, it looks like there's people in the stands. Say that's crazy. It's wild, right, Like who thought of that? Because it is you thought that's what it was. So it's like who actually figured out the science that that would work? Yeah, even like when you take glances, it's like is there someone there? Right? A little cardboard just cutouts? That would be funny as ship. But remember during lockdown that they did do that for shows, like when they were doing the live streams and ship. Yeah, they were doing that. They were like putting cutouts like there's like people in the stand we baseball, you know, and there's like the people in the stands in the audience, right, totally crazy. Look at that fucking tattoo? See that? Like that's what I'm saying. How I do interviews? Like squirrel?

4:04 Something just caught my eye. I'm like, look at that fucking tattoo. I feel like I want to play a video game now, like Millipede or Centipede? How that happen? What's what's the video game called what we called Syndicate? Yeah, yeah, there was a game called Centipede and then the two point zero version what's called Millipede? Really? Yeah, look it up trivia question for you. Yeah, And the difference between a centipede and a millipede. Yeah, one hundred thousand. Yeah. Wow, you look at that. You can see whenever they're on the ground. The one that guys, guys, this is like, this is like sophomore level math.

4:46 Come on, we're back in science class. It took I mean they're easy question. How many people do you think can answer that? Hey, mister wizard, what makes the color of the speedway have red seats? Oh? Man, I gotta say something funny. We were talking about driving around the speedway, Like, Okay, so I have my skateboard with me, and last year I was like percent runs media. I'm like, you think I might lose my creds if I go right on that wall with my skateboard and she's like, I don't think you should do that. I'm like okay. And then this year I'm like, well maybe after slipknot if I break my arm. I break my arm, it's worth it. I feel like you need one of those electric skateboards to go around this thing. Fucking cool.

5:35 Yeah, if you stand at the top of that vertical wall, in all seriousness, you will fall down, So like gain on a skateboard. And then I thought about it, okay, Like even if I do get down the wall, as soon as you hit the ground, you're eating shit, okay, because there's no like smooth like it's like boom like where you're going. You bet you're gonna have to like do an ali all the bottom to get going, which is just right. And there's like those like tubes that come in. We're like, is so sick to ride London skates so nice? There's like a bunch of cool little flat walls. Yeah, well little skate obstacles. Did you bring your board? No, because we weren't here for long enough. But when you go on tour, I'm going to bring a board. I'm just not going to get hurt. Lario put it out there. I'm afraid, same same word anywhere we Yeah, Grandma, I used to skate a little bit. We never got super good, but I got really afraid of injuring myself and like not being able to do music.

6:34 Yeah, you can't be a skateboarder if you're afraid of injuring yourself. It's like when I was taking ice skating lessons from you know, advance from he goes you never fall, that's bad. I'm like, why is that bad, like, because you're not going to get better unless you eat shit. Ye. Well, we weren't doing music and we were falling a lot, and we were eating a lot of shit and I kept like hurting my wrists and then we started doing music and I was like, oh fuck, yeah, I can't. Yeah, well, if you were falling a lot, then that was your message, like skateboarding your vibe, man, like that ain't your jam? Stick with music? Tony Hawk, he he ain't worried about you at all. Good playing skate three play guitar. Honestly, I think he actually, yeah, i've seen him perform with bands man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he actually sang on a Nina Nails cover this year or two. I forgot what they did. I think it was had like a hole, but yeah, it was like a little super group Instagram thing where they're I think I saw that. I love I love everything that I see about Tony Hawk. It's just really funny him in this day and age, because it's like he's like the most He's like the best kind of celebrity where it's like no one knows who you are, but everyone knows who you are totally him randomly. It's just like regular. And how about all those people that think he's just a video game. Yeah, I'm sure it is, like think about it. So they keep like he's like tweeting all the time. He's like Jesus got guys. I literally just go anywhere I want

8:07 and no one ever recognizes me because like I'm Tony Hawk, but they just they know my name more than they know my face exactly. So tell us a little bit about your band, what you know, what you're all about and and not a genre? How do you as artists describe your music? I think like vocal and like I don't know, like songwriting, like heavily influenced, like songwriting, nineties inspired grunge rock, no genre, no genre. Okay, here you take like if this were like a game show, you have already been eliminated and he's already on top of the heap for like he hit his buzzer quick for those seats next you were, yeah, you were kind of you were kind of doing it. It's very it's very oh god, no genre is so fucking hard. He's inspired. We like it heavy, whether it's lyrically or sonically. Yeah, those two go together.

9:18 The sound matches the lyricism, and it's all just very congruent imagery. That's cool. Dark for sure, we keep it in the shadows. And I like the congruent part because I didn't. There was somebody that played recently and I'm like, yeah, no, uh, and their song just didn't make sense because right because the way they were writing the lyrics, it was like they were forcing it. Like a good lyricist will write the lyrics and tell the story, but they'll sound like a wave opposed to trying to make words sound like it fit in, you know, like where you say the word differently or whatever. There's times you have to, but this was like the whole song, it was like it just it wasn't matching. It was like making my brain like it's the difference between like, it's a difference between like Kurt Cobain like making up words to fit in his song right that you could call that gibberish, but it's artistic gibberish totally. That's the difference where of like good songwriting to trying to fit the square peg in the round hole, right, instead of taking a word that maybe it should be if you were just writing it or whatever, and trying to make it like have the same sound of what it should be instead of what it is. So I mean

10:52 I love that. That's why I love most of all of what you said there, because yes, the lyrics and the music should match. Like if you had no lyrics and you were just hearing the music, or you had lyrics and didn't hear the music, you would know it was the same song. Yeah, you're so right. Your brain should be able to fill all that in. And yeah, and I think people people are very smart in the sense that they can sniff that out, even if they're not music people. You know, it's it's just it's people that are fans of stuff. You're not really sure why you're a fan of something. Yeah, you just are, whether or not you're in music, and you can explain sonically why the song tickles your brain. And I think that's hard to fool people if you're not being genuine about it, right, And that's why the only way to do it is to be genuine about it. Then you're doing exactly like what you're saying. And I just thought something just now. I thought about it of like, you know how people always like they think the lyrics are something else. Yeah, I think that's the key of a good song.

11:58 Oh yeah, because you're saying these words that probably aren't supposed to be in there, but they sound so good in the song that people think it's other words, you know what. I that this goes hand in hand with I think a really good way to write songs is to not really be very picky about your lyrics from the start. And this is how we write songs a lot of the time, where you just kind of, you know, you decide on a progression, you're happy with a chord progression or some sort of riff or something, and then you don't really say words. You're just kind of like putting vowels and things together to make sense, and sometimes a phrase or two gets out and you ride with that. But it's really nice to start with like not words like just gibberish. Yeah, to tell you how many like voice memon as I have in my phone. That's just like I don't really know what I'm saying, but then I listen back to it, and I'm like, and I get words after the facts, you know, just based on the way that your mouth movements and the way that it sounds.

12:58 Yeah, it's like it kind of makes you. Yeah, just like think of it like organic song. That's a crazy organic songwriting experience that we both have had. That's like, you know, we write separately and we write together, but we both like had that same feeling. See and that that is a cool way that you put it, because that is I can picture it as you were saying. It's like, first get the sound right, then make the word. And it makes sense to you now why like you find different words right? Why you hear a song and you think they're saying something different? Yeah, how about that we cracked the code. Cracked the code. Look at that. It's far from cracked. It like it's it's something ethereal. I think if you have you ever read Rick Rubin's book is part of it. Yeah. I mean I feel like everyone that I talked to is like I started it right, because like you get a couple of chapters in and you're like, this guy's so glooy, this is dense and he's like he's yapping, dude, yapping the whole time. The way that the song is placed as a seed. Don't get us wrong, we love oh no, dude, everyone likes everyone loves Rick Rubin everything. It's okay to tear him down, because everyone loves genius. He's a genius, he really is. You can't He's gotten he's gotten enough praise. And I've read his book, and I've read his book, so I agree with like so much of what he's saying about how it's like you're pulling from something that's

14:30 like larger than you. You're just like this like antenna. It's like in tune with the with the world around you, and like sometimes these radio frequencies come by and just like lend themselves to you for a second, and it's up to you to be like ready with a guitar in your hand and with like you know, you're you're down at a pad to write some stuff down, to harness that energy and turn it into something. You're just borrowing the energy that's out in the world. What a great concept. I love that. Actually I finished the book. Everyone, if you've started it, I've actually I've never I've never read the book. So well, now you have to, and now I have to because I just like at work, you know, just thinking to myself because I'm so bored. I've thought, like, man, where does music like truly come from? I have enough time to think something like that, you know. So I'm like, man, where does like where does the idea of like high out of my mind?

15:26 You know, sweeping the floors, pushing the car like crazy, you know, in the clouds. But I've like, where does music come from? And I've come to the conclusion like it's got to be like God given someone this idea, something given probably you know, dogs aren't real, so we don't know. But it's like someone's got to be giving these people ideas to come up with such great music. And to think of that the variety of how much great music there is, you know, like think of like clips of Dover and then think of like Humble by Kendrick Lamar, like just two such amazing songs or like great example, yeah, like radio Head, Radiohead, and then like Metallica. It's like, oh my god, sothing else.

16:12 It's all these artists. Sorry, no, it's it's okay. Please. All these artists pull it from somewhere. And really the best artists are the ones who are most in tune with their antenna and can best pick up this these like these like frequencies from this energy from the world and you developed them. That is that why your debut album is so fucking badass. We have written not too long because you guys, go, do is is she? Yeah, she gave me the but that's okay, we'll have more. Well, we've written a lot of songs before the debut album. I mean those songs that we wrote that are on the album are like two or three years older, Like we wrote them two or three years ago, and there is way more before that, and there's way more after it, and we just you know, it's an ever evolving process. I mean, it's just like everything. That's the way this diary entry. But you should get better at it every time. Well, we'll have to continue this again because you guys are great, and just tell everybody real quick how they can connect you on socials, get the new music, check tour gate and dates by your merch and all that website, Instagram, TikTok all social media, yeah, all social media. Return to Dust or return to Dust band one of the two. Everywhere. Yeah, you cannot not find our name. We are everywhere. Bibles, We're in the Bible. There you go. They are literally ever everywhere, including Welcome to Rockville, and thanks guys for being here,

17:48 and thanks for being on the Adventures of pipe Man. Thank you, Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipe Man on W for CUI Radio.