Dec. 13, 2024

PipemanRadio Interviews Rod Rodrigues About Tales Of A Changing Life Part 2

Pipeman discusses Rod Rodriguez's new album "Tales Of A Changing Life Part 2" was released on October 18th. With it, 3 singles/videos: 

Inukshuk Feat. Angel Vivaldi and John Macaluso: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSU58IFjXI
On The Road:...

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Pipeman discusses Rod Rodriguez's new album "Tales Of A Changing Life Part 2" was released on October 18th. With it, 3 singles/videos:

Inukshuk Feat. Angel Vivaldi and John Macaluso: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSU58IFjXI
On The Road: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1du5ofuRCM
Mom's Lullaby: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP6oSwPRxGE

Rod Rodrigues is a Brazilian-Canadian guitarist, music teacher, and songwriter with an impressive career in the music industry. Over the years, he has been a member of various bands, including Enemies of Reality and Falling Into a Dream (a Dream Theater tribute band).

Rod has studied with renowned musicians like Kiko Loureiro (Megadeth) and Greg Howe (Justin Timberlake, Michael Jackson, and others) and has received degrees from IG&T and Claretiano University. Since 1997, he has been sharing his knowledge and skills as a music teacher in Brazil, Canada, and Europe.


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Hey, you have THENTO censure.

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Wake up America.

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It's time for the Adventures of Pipe Man on W

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internet radio station. Here's your host, the pipe Man.

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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe

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Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm here with

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our next guest. And I really dig that having this

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guest because I am totally into musicians opposed to people

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that play instruments, and we definitely have a musician with

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us on the show here today. So let's welcome to

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the show. Rod Rodriguez. How are you?

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Thank you, Thank you very much, Thank you very much

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for having me. Yeah, I'm good. This is like a

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pretty cold here today. It's minus eight Was that minus

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eighteen this morning?

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Wow? What is n Is that? It was n fahrenheit?

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Because or where are you at?

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I mean Toronto?

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Yeah, that's why faired? Was that in fahrenheit? Oh?

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Good question, that's probably with you.

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Yeah, it's minee eighteen So it's probably pretty close to

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zero then in fahrenheit something like that. But you know it,

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we should all the whole world should just be on

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one system. Because it's it's too much work to always

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try to translate stuff. And you know, the US uses

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one system, well, the rest of the world mostly uses

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the rest I think we should join. I think the

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metric system is way smarter than whatever we use. Like

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we have to memorize when we're kids, how many feet

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there are in a mile and how many yards there

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are in a mile, and it's not easy to remember

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because it's not in multiples of ten. So like they

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so hammered in your head that it just becomes iMac

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But it's not that you understand why it's that many

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feet or that's or that many yards, you know whereas Yeah,

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and I love driving when you have the metric system too,

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because it seems like you get places quicker. Oh yeah, indeed,

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you know, it's like, oh we already weent sixty kilometers. Man,

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that's great. It's also great because you figure you're speeding,

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but you're not. It's like, you know, oh, look at me,

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I'm going one hundred and ten kilometers an hour. Yeah indeed.

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And also like the pounds and kilograms and whatever.

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Yeah, And I uh so I've been to Toronto because

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I used to be in the investment business, and I

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had to go to Toronto to get a Toronto futures license

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because I traded futures as well as many other investments.

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And one thing I have to say about Canada is

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whoever handles investments in Canada are really good in notre

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stuff because in the United States you can fake through

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those tests we call multiple guest tests because they're all

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multiple choice. So you don't like, you take classes here

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for the investment tests, like a three day blitz course.

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They don't want you to learn anything, just memorize, so

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you can just go take the tests and pass, whereas

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in Toronto you had to actually write, like as if

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you were doing a Masters or a doctor You had

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to write, you know, full on essay answers, fill in

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blanks like there was no you could not guess your

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way at this exam. And so I say that in

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a good way because that the likelihood of a scammer

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getting a license in your system is very unlikely compared

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to ours. So you have real professionals there. And I

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think the same thing holds true with music. I mean,

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I am always in awe how you have bands like

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Rush and other bands like that that only have three

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people and can make more music than a band of nine.

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Oh yeah, actually there's a duel here. They're called Crown Lands.

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I don't know if you heard about them. Okay, they

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sound a lot like like Rush and you guys, it's unbelievable.

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Wow.

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The drummer he plays and sings in the guitar player

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does all the rest. Yeah, it's unbelievable. Yeah, they're fantastic.

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That is amazing to see. I love hearing that stuff

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because to me, that's true musicians. You're a true musician

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if you don't need a lot of people in the

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band and you yourself, you're a true musician as well.

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And so I have a question too, like, so you're

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Brazilian Canadian. So were you born in Brazil or do

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you just have Brazilian heritage that your family's from Canada

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but they're Brazilian.

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No, I was born and raised in Brazil, but I

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moved moved to Canada in twenty seventeen. You know, I'm

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also like have like the Canadian citizenship. Yeah, why, Like

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I can't say it that, Like, Okay, I Amber is Brazilian,

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but I'm also like Canadian at some point, you know,

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like these days, I can't say like okay, as as

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I mentioned before, like like minus nine eighteen here, and

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I was like, okay, so this doesn't feel like Brazil

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at all.

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That's what I was going to say. Like, Okay, first

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I was gonna say, I thought Brazilians that come to

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the United States or or North America, they only come

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to Florida because we have a huge Brazilian population here.

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But the weather is similar, okay, yeah, very similar indeed,

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And like people like me moved from the north to

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the south to get away from the cold weather. And

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you moved from like one of the best climates in

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my opinion, to one of the worst. Did you realize

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that what's gonna happen? Did you realize when you're moving? Hey,

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I gotta be sitting here doing an interview at eighteen below.

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No, and you know why, you know what's funny, Like

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my first summer here, I was like, what is this?

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I was I wasn't expecting that at all, you know, right,

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extremely humid, you know, was like no, like like for

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fere I am from, it's not humid like that. Oh yeah,

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from Mounties. You know, yeah, it is really hot, but

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it's not humid. You know, when I got here, the

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first summer was like, what is this? I was expecting

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to be like Canada, right.

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Right, See, you moved to a place that has terribly

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hot and humid summers and terribly cold and miserable winters.

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That that was brilliant. But I think that's where the

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best musicians come from because listen, okay, so me as

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an example, I'm saying here right now, doing this interview. Well,

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I can also see the ocean right in front of me,

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and I'm like, yeah, why am I doing this interview?

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I want to be out there surfing. And but during

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the winter, like in New Jersey where I grew up,

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during the winter, like you worked your butt off because

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there was nothing else to do. Basically you hibernated. And

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you know, you look at places like Canada, like Sweden,

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like Norway, all these places they come out with the

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greatest musicians because I think these musicians just sit there

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and play their instrument all day long, because that's all

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they have to do.

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Indeed, I think it's I think it's uh, it makes

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a lot of sense actually, right, And you know what,

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I think, even the weather and all like everything here,

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I think I could say, like I gotten inspired by

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everything the environment or like or what people listen to.

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You know, I think like Toronto. Toronto has a huge

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prog scene. You know, they're like amazing progressive metal and

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wrong dance here. You know, I think I can't see that.

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I got really inspired by everything.

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You're nice and uh that's that's what you want, right

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you know, yeah, exactly, like right now, if I would.

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You know, I used to play guitar and I used

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to play drums, but I also lived in California and

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I didn't practice enough because I was too busy doing

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other things. While it's nice out just like right here.

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You know, I could be sitting there playing the guitar,

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or I could be out there outside in the war

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and be like I'll practice later, yeah you know, but

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it's winter out. Yeah, I'm going to practice now and

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that's all I'm gonna do.

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Yeah. Actually, I like for any kind of instrument, for sure, Yeah,

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you need some a lot of time of dedication for sure.

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You know, you really want to be like good at it,

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you have to have to spend a lot of time

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of the instrument for sure. Like when I when I

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was younger, like I used to play like twelve hours

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per day, like sometimes like fifteen hours, you know, for

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every day. Like while my friends were going to to

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move to the parties, I was practicing guitar. I love it,

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But that was like that was my choice, you know,

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like I wanted to be a musician, you know, like

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since then, like I have been like a full time

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musician my whole life.

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You know, I nobody I tell you you have to

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do that. Usually it's the opposite. Your parents are telling

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you put that down and go get real job. You know.

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So it's so true. It is a choice. You're so right.

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And even I look at myself. Okay, So when I

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was playing guitar in high school, the idea of playing

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guitar sounded great, but the idea of practicing all day

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every day, Like you know who was my idol, Randy

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Rhoades was one of them, and he practiced for eight

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hours a day. When I found that out, I'm like, oh,

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I guess I'm not going to be a very good

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guitar because I'm not practicing eight hours a day, you know.

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And it really I think you have to have the

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passion for it, you know. I have a passion for music.

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I don't know that I had a passion for playing

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the instrument. I have a passion for hearing it, you know,

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And so there are different people like that. So thank

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God because there's people like you that have the passion

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for the instrument. And then it's like it's kind of

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like magic. I watch people like you, I'm like, man,

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I wish I could do that and you and probably

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with a lot of work, I could. But that's the difference.

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To me, it would be work. To you, it's passion.

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Exactly, And it's the passion that moves you to that.

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You know, Okay, Oh, I'm gonna practice for like twelve

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hours a day. Why because I'm so passionate. You know,

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I love it so much, you know that. I that's

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not boring for me exactly. That's that's what That's what

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I seem like most of the new generation of kids,

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because like I have been like a music teacher, like

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since nineteen ninety seven. So I saw, like I've seen

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like many different generations, you know, and I see like

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these days they don't have the same passion. Unfortunately, they

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don't have the same passion anymore.

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You know.

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They would underspend like five hours or eight hours with

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an instrument.

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You know, do you know that's why I think. That

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is what I think. It also ties to the reason

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why people don't listen to whole songs any anymore.

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Exactly, it's the same.

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Thing, like, you know, there's no real appreciation of it,

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is what it comes down to. And for us when

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we were younger, music was a whole experience, not just

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listening to a few seconds of a track.

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Oh yeah, exactly.

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It was like you immersed yourself in this album that

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you spent your hard earned money on, so you would

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even if you didn't like it. You know, how many

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albums are my favorite albums I did not like when

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I first heard it, you know, and it's true of

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a lot of people, like sometimes you gotta hear it

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over and over again. But it's immersing yourself, putting my

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headphones on, opening up, reading the lyrics, looking at all

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the art work, and listening to the whole album from

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beginning to finish without skipping anything. You know, now days,

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if people listen to one track on a whole album,

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it's a lot. Oh yeah yeah.

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Can you imagine how challenging was for me to write

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one of the songs like eleven minutes long, right, you know, right,

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How could I expect people to listen to the entire

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song instrumental instrumental instrumental song like eleven minutes long? You know,

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it's very challenging for sure. Actually, my goal was to

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reach fifteen minutes. Nice it was fifteen minutes, but okay,

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I was I was happy for eleven minutes.

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Some of the best songs in history are long. Why

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Because it's like therapy. Okay, you know, so to me,

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music's the greatest therapy. But also, if you got therapy once,

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it's not going to do anything for you. So to me,

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immersing yourself once again using that word and listening to

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a fifteen minute song, let's say it gives you time

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to go on a journey and whatever is mentally ailing

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you you can disappear from. I don't think you can

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disappear in a minute or two minute song from the

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things that music cures. Oh yeah, yeah, that's just my viewpoint.

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Oh yeah, no, I totally agree with you.

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And I love what you said about Okay, So I'm

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glad you brought up about being a music teacher because

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you're gonna laugh now because one of the other things is,

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like I remember when I was first taking guitar lessons,

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and all I wanted to do was play songs, as

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as most of your students are probably the same way.

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Oh yeah, And the teacher had me doing these scales

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over and over and over again, and I was like,

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bump this, this is no fun. But that's why I

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never got good though. You need that foundation, and like

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maybe it's not as much fun in the beginning, but

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nothing is to get to the You gotta go through

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that to get to the fun part exactly, you know.

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And you know what, after you learned the scales, for example,

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it would be easier for you to learn songs, right.

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Yeah. If you look at you don't that When you're new,

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a new student, you're thinking this is bullshit, Like I

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just want to play music. This is this garbage, you know,

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But it's true what you said.

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Like patonic scale, for example, is the first skill that

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I the students normally learn, right, it's the pentatonic skill.

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Why because there are so many songs, classic songs, they

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were all all the songs they were all played with

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pentatonic scale, like say like Black led Zeppelin's Black Dog

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started to have them, or Pink Floyd's Comfortably Non like

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all the Gimmer solos or maybe all Jimmy Page or

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infant slash, you know, Jeff Back, Eric Clapton. You know,

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like after you learn those five notes, you know, after

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those five notes, you get used to that sound, you know,

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and it gets easier for you to memorize their souls,

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you know, when there you go, you know, and actually,

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you know what, I think there are some students they

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get to that point, you know, that they realize, okay,

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So I can see how important it is because actually

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my technique is getting better and also like my hearing

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is getting better, my understanding how the soulos work better,

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or even like some riffs. If you look at Black

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Dog for example, that's pentatonic scale. Yeah, breaking out the

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Rules by Peter Frampton, right, that's totally pentatonic scale. You know,

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Like there are thousands of songs that I could that

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I could name now, but I think some students they

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get to that point that they realize, okay, Yeah, I

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can see how important it is, you know, and how

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I actually I'm improving my playing and like in my

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listening and my understanding about music in general too.

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It's interesting too what you were saying, because I'm thinking

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about again referencing back to my experience with it, and

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it's like, I don't even I think you need all

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that stuff because you said about you know how it sounds.

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I still to this day, I can play a couple

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of things really badly on guitar, and I have a

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guitar that I rarely pick up because I play it badly.

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But I don't have the ear from not practicing enough

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and not doing enough of that scales and stuff that

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I don't even have an easy time tuning the guitar.

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I don't know what it should sound like, you know.

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And I think that's the difference somebody that really becomes

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a musician, like you just said, they know what it's

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supposed to sound like, you know, and they develop this ear,

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you know. And I think that takes a lot of work.

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It's not just talent that develops that ear. It's a

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lot of work.

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like you learned so many songs, for example, you get

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used to how those chords sound together. You know, Oh, okay,

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so this is a G chord, ah, but this is

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a G N and D, you know, like the transition

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of those chords for example, Oh, this is C F G,

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which is a very common chord progression, you know, And okay,

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but what if I changed I replaced this app for

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D minor for example, And why they are so similar?

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You know, like your ears they get used to that,

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you know, and then you're understanding about music and in

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your ears, they will get used to that, and you

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will like, okay, you can learn songs easier, you know,

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notally scales, but also like how do the chords are built,

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how they're organized together? You know, why the song sounds

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so sad, and why this song sounds so so happy

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for example. You know, it's a combination of things, a

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combination of chords and scales and how you will build

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the melodies all of that. It's the combination of all

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of that.

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Yeah, And you know you mentioned Stairway to Heaven before

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and when I was going to college, and I you know,

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I took like music theory, music appreciations, a couple other classes.

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In the appreciation class, this is the one thing I

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remembered more than anything else of any music classes or

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any training I took, is the professor said, the key

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to writing a hit song is to appeal to all

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three different types of people auditory, visual, and kinesthetic. And

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then he said, if you want a perfect example of

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the perfect song that does that, it's Stairway to Heaven.

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And then you have a whole different philosophy of that

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song after that because after that, because I'm also on

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motivational speaker, so I'm big into the auditory, visual, kin

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of stetic, that whole thing and use it for training

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people and stuff like that. And you know, so it

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made so much sense because if you think about it,

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you know, the first verse is for the auditory, the second,

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the middle is for the visual, and the third is

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the kinesthetic, and so you appeal to all three and

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that progression of the song is bringing all three types

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of people together exactly exactly.

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And it's interesting how all those parts and all of

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that is connected.

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Yeah, exactly exactly, which brings me. Okay, So you have

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this new album, Tales of a Changing Life, Part two,

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And I'm always also in awe of artists, and I

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can keep coming up with material and writing songs like

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I'm a published author. I have one song I've written

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and I had to go to my bro and have

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him help me after I wrote it to turn it

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into a song because it was more like a book,

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you know, and there is definitely a technique to write

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a song. And you know, he's asking me stuff like

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can you get rid of us? No, that's important, Like

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I thought everything was important. He's trying to eliminate stuff,

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you know, and make it more basic. And so just

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the idea of, you know, creating these songs. I'm always

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in awe of artist. How you know, it's one thing

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to play somebody else's song. It's another thing to create

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something from scratch. And yet yet look at what you've

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done with this new album, and it's a perfect example

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of how good you are at that.

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Oh thank you. I really appreciate it.

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So how does it happen with you? What you know,

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what goes on in your mind? Is it similar? Like

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me as an author my book? I wrote the first

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bar book in twenty four hours the first half and

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the second half took six months. Oh wow, you know

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what I'm saying. It's like fast right right, But you're

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in this mode and then when you leave the mode,

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and then it took me six months to get back

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into the mode basically, you know, And so I'm always

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in awe writing a whole album like that's even more

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difficult than writing a book, because you're writing unique, different songs.

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Like a book, at least the chapters all tie together,

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not always the case in album. Like yeah, you have

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concept downs, but still to tie all of that stuff together,

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all the music together. It's not just words.

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Exactly, and that's very challenging. Actually, that's what many people

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they ask me, Like how you wrote like a conceptual

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album but with no lyrics?

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Right? Yeah.

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The thing is because like first of all, I don't sing.

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I got to like some background vocals that kind of thing,

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and I don't know how to write lyrics. I don't know.

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I don't know how how to express myself through words,

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you know, I know how to do how to do

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that like through melodies, you know. So of course like

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this album, not all this this project, I would say

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like because of part one, end apart two, and I

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think it's more like how the listener will experience it,

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you know, how those songs will touch those people's.

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Heart, you know.

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Okay, Like there's some like more aggressive songs like like

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in Nukshock so heavier, you know, like more technical, a

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little bit of fusion, and but there are like some

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very emotive songs like Mom's la by you know, like

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the So it's how everything will, how that music will,

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how the music itself will tell the people's the story

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behind it. Yeah, like like of course, like I was

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the one who wrote those songs. I know exactly what's

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going on behind it. Why those songs, Like why I

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name those songs like that? How why I have like

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those melodies together, How I have those chords, those chorts

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or canes together to feel like this or like that.

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For example, uh Mamslay is a very emotive song, but

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it's still very happy, very like uplifting, right because off

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the chords like major chords, and there's the choir and

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there's that interro with the baby and that there's also

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very dark songs like takes off a change in life,

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you know. So, but what was behind it now? Of

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course like for people for other people's feel it the

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same way that I did, will be will be hard, Yeah,

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that's yeah, but that's troop the song with lyrics though

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exactly exactly. But actually that's what I want, you know,

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that's exactly what I want. I want to let my

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my music touch touch the people's you know, and and

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how they feel with it.

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You know.

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Actually I would love to to to hear from people

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what they feel with my music. How the story actually

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is is is touching them in some way.

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See that. It's so cool too, because there's two types

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of artists. Theres ares that you know, they have their

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meaning to their songs and they expect you to you know,

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assimilate to that meaning. And then there's artists like you

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and many other artists that put your own meaning to it,

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because yeah, you have your own meaning. But for a

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song to be successful, in my opinion, is that it

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has to have meaning to me. Yeah, maybe has meaning

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to you, but if it doesn't have meaning to me,

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it's not gonna hit there. It may be okay, it

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may be an okay song, but it has to hit there.

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And there's like certain songs like they hit me a

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certain way and surely not the way that the artists

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it was hitting them. Yeah, and that doesn't matter because

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we're both benefiting from it exactly.

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There are even some songs that they are kind of

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emotional for us, you know, for us like listeners, you know,

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and probably the who wrote the song of the artists

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who wrote the song while he was like having a

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beer or whatever, you know.

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Who right, and you know, uh, you've also you've worked

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with a bunch of great musicians. Now here's something interesting

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interesting to me. I'd kind of like to know your

444
00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:26.079
viewpoint as an artist. Okay, So, like one of the

445
00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:30.119
musicians you worked with is Kiko from Megadeth, and I'm

446
00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:34.839
always Also I've known Dave since I was at the

447
00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:39.119
first Metallica show ever and I met cool. Yeah, awesome,

448
00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:45.119
And I've always been in like I've always been of

449
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:50.680
Mustaine's guitar playing. But then I'm like, wow, he always

450
00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:54.960
gets these like super great guitarists. And even though he's

451
00:26:54.960 --> 00:26:58.039
somebody that has he goo, which is something you need anyway,

452
00:26:58.400 --> 00:27:00.400
I don't mean it in a bad way. I think

453
00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:04.119
that's why he wasn't He's not still a Metallica. There

454
00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:07.440
was too much ego between him, James and Laws. That's

455
00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:10.240
too much ego in one band. You need a little less,

456
00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:15.200
you know. And but the thing is, so I'm like, wow,

457
00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:19.480
to me, that's he really cares about the music because

458
00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:22.880
instead just care about his guitar playing. He brings on

459
00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:27.799
people equally or better than him, with no ego involved,

460
00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:30.960
and lets them shred the lead at times, you know

461
00:27:31.240 --> 00:27:34.240
a lot of times, and that always like that puts

462
00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:37.880
me in awe of him in that way. And what's

463
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:40.119
your viewpoint on stuff like that?

464
00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:44.519
Yeah, I really like giving the freedom to the musicians

465
00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:45.400
to do their things.

466
00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:46.000
Yeah.

467
00:27:46.039 --> 00:27:48.759
No, And I think also like the quality of the

468
00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:55.680
of the music. It's it's related to that freedom that

469
00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:59.279
the musicians have, you know, to add to their touch

470
00:27:59.359 --> 00:28:02.680
to the music. You know, even though like I play

471
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:06.240
like instrumental music and like my guitar is still like

472
00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:09.960
in the center of everything, you know, Like there are

473
00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:12.960
some songs, for example, even Tales of Changing Life, really

474
00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:16.720
long song, you know, but with a long introduction, like

475
00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:20.119
with the orchestrations. Like when I have the solo section,

476
00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:23.880
I was like, okay, am I going to do everything?

477
00:28:24.440 --> 00:28:26.240
You know, I was like, okay, no, there's write a

478
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:29.240
lot of guitar here, so I'm gonna do something with

479
00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:33.480
the with the with the keyboards kind of like back

480
00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:37.640
and forth solas, right, like something like deep Purple you

481
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:41.720
see you a lot, right, So, and I like doing

482
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:44.359
giving that freedom to them because I know that they

483
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:47.119
will add their touch to it and the music will

484
00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:50.440
get better, it will be better. Actually, the only instrument

485
00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:53.759
I would say, because I kind of like wrote everything,

486
00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:56.720
you know, like of course, like the guitars, I wrote everything,

487
00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:02.680
but even like the bassis, I get give them some ideas,

488
00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:06.359
but mostly the drums, I wrote most of it, you know,

489
00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:09.000
because actually I start, I start playing drums when I

490
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:12.200
was like twelve, and I switched to guitar later and

491
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:16.480
I was like fourteen thirteen, fourteen, and so I don't

492
00:29:16.519 --> 00:29:19.720
play drums anymore, but I know how the instrument works,

493
00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:22.640
you know, and I know how when you use like

494
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:25.960
the symbols and the crash and like in the grooves,

495
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:30.079
you know. So I had, like I always have that

496
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:32.319
kind of like very very I would say, like an

497
00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:37.480
advanced idea of the of the of the drums, you know.

498
00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:40.799
But I always give them the freedom to do whatever

499
00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:43.319
they want because I know that they are they are

500
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:44.519
they are drummers.

501
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:46.119
You know. I'm not the drummer.

502
00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:49.319
I'm not going to do any better than them, you know,

503
00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:52.119
or even the keyboard player. Okay, So I gave him

504
00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:54.200
a lot of a lot of a lot of ideas,

505
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:57.920
you know, and also on the bass, but I know

506
00:29:58.000 --> 00:29:59.920
that they are bad than me playing those instruments.

507
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:00.839
Nice.

508
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:04.039
Yeah, And the same way will be the opposite, like

509
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:06.759
when I have to record the guitars for other artists,

510
00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:09.920
for example, and they give me the freedom to do

511
00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:13.519
whatever I want or like just touch my my style

512
00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:16.839
to that, you know so, and that's exactly what I

513
00:30:16.880 --> 00:30:19.519
wanted from them, you know, give me that. And also

514
00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:23.000
I know, like I'm one hundred percent sure and they

515
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:25.519
do the songs they sound like that it's not only

516
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:27.599
because of my guitars, but also because of them.

517
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:32.559
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And by way, so it's funny you

518
00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:35.599
mentioned about you started on drums, because I played drums

519
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:38.400
for nine years before I switched the guitar, and then

520
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:40.720
I switched to sing and thrash metalw and I sucked

521
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:43.200
at all three.

522
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:45.400
I don't believe you.

523
00:30:46.319 --> 00:30:48.400
Oh no, I told it, or else I might be

524
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:51.720
doing it today. It was the same thing, though not

525
00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:55.839
practicing enough, Like okay, with the singing, I didn't sing properly,

526
00:30:56.079 --> 00:31:00.960
because if you sing thrash metal without you seeing your

527
00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:05.079
throat properly, you're not gonna last too light Like sometimes

528
00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:06.880
now on my show, i'll sing a song. I can

529
00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:10.400
barely get through one song, you know, because but if

530
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:15.480
you're trained properly to sing that way, it doesn't hurt,

531
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:18.680
you know, because you're doing it right. And that's same

532
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.519
with everything. Drums. Oh, I so hated working on the

533
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:26.480
practice pad, you know, like give me a real drum set,

534
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:29.200
like and so that was always me. I was the

535
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:32.079
typical of Yeah, I don't want to put in the work.

536
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:34.640
I just want to be a rock star man. And

537
00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:39.200
that's why we are in the world we are today

538
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:46.880
with rock stars don't exist anymore because really, musicianship is

539
00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:51.599
what the goal should be, not rock star, and that

540
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:55.079
is I think we're making a comeback with that. I'm

541
00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:57.200
finding with a lot of interviews that I'm doing is

542
00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:01.039
musicianship is coming back. It was gone for a while,

543
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:05.240
like stuff was so basic and no real musicianship, and

544
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:08.720
I think it's making a comeback, and artists like you

545
00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:12.519
that are brave enough to do the longer songs in

546
00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:16.839
twenty twenty four, you know, are making a comeback, and

547
00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:19.359
I think people are actually digging it. I think the

548
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:25.200
younger generation coming up, they're sick of the bubblegum rock.

549
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:29.640
You know, it's not even bubblegum pop anymore. It's bubblegum rock.

550
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:35.400
And with people like you, you know, and other real musicians.

551
00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:42.000
They're coming to appreciate something that maybe the generations that

552
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:46.680
are into that bubblegum rock never really listen to, you know,

553
00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:49.640
like you know how many gen zers I've talked to

554
00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:52.799
that never heard of Pink Floyd? Oh, Like it kind

555
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:55.440
of blows my mind. How do you not know who

556
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:58.680
Pink Floyd is? But that's what I'm talking about. But

557
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:01.759
then you talk to the real young kid and they know.

558
00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:06.880
So maybe we're making it come back to real music.

559
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:11.799
It's funny that you mentioned that because I was watching uh,

560
00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:16.440
you know Ricky Piano the YouTuber No, I don't know. Yeah,

561
00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:20.759
he's uh, he's he was like a college professor. Okay,

562
00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:23.799
he thought at Berkeley and he has a his like

563
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:29.079
huge music channel, and he was talking about uh, mister Beast,

564
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:32.880
it's like the biggest YouTuber like he was mentioned like

565
00:33:33.119 --> 00:33:37.720
one of the mister Bat's interview the the guy mentioned

566
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:41.839
mentioned Prince the guitar player. Yeah, and and mister Beast

567
00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:45.000
he didn't he didn't know about Prince like at all.

568
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:50.160
I did not know Prince exactly. That's good to play

569
00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:54.319
more instruments than anybody I've ever known, I think, exactly.

570
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:57.400
And that's That's why what Rick was kind of like

571
00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:02.440
very disappointed. How you can't know anything about Prince. Have

572
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:06.279
you ever heard like a bird Prange or kids? You know?

573
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:09.440
Like, well, you know the thing is is the music

574
00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:14.360
today came from that foundation. And I think if you're

575
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:17.760
going to be a musician, you need the foundation first.

576
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:21.760
That's where I made the mistake. That drum pad is

577
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:25.920
the foundation. Those scales are the foundation. And just like

578
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:28.880
a house, you may not want to build the foundation.

579
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:31.480
You just might want to decorate the house. But without

580
00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:35.519
the foundation, you don't have everything else exactly exactly.

581
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:40.199
And you know what, I think it's also because these

582
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:43.320
younger kids, like they don't they don't have seen passions.

583
00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:46.119
I remember when I was a kid, like when I

584
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:49.719
was like thirteen fourteen, when I was like getting more

585
00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:52.719
into like rock and metal. You know, I was so

586
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:57.760
passionate for it. I really want to know more bands,

587
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:01.159
new bands. Okay, so oh, I like okay, so what

588
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:04.559
but what is behind them? You know? Like what bands

589
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:08.079
did used to listen to? Or drink theater for example,

590
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:11.000
I love drink theater. So what what dance that John

591
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:13.960
Bertucci likes? You know, like oh it's rush, yes, and

592
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:18.159
Creamson genusis Marinium, you know. And uh, and I think

593
00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:21.239
they're not They're not that curious anymore, you know, to

594
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:25.639
know what is uh the foundation of that sound? Yeah,

595
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:26.559
of that style.

596
00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:30.000
I mean, you think about it. You mentioned metal. I

597
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:32.159
talk about that because I'm a total metal head, and

598
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:34.920
I talk about all the time that a lot of

599
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:41.480
the newer metal follows like this algebraic equation formula to

600
00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:45.320
make metal instead of what metal was, you know, And

601
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:49.599
it's like and that's why it's so simple. And but

602
00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:52.360
the difference is is the metal heads during the eighties,

603
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:56.280
the metal bands, the Mega Deaths, the Metallicas, the Slayers,

604
00:35:56.719 --> 00:36:01.960
their foundation was everybody were meant. There was no foundation

605
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:05.159
of a thrash metal band. There was no foundation of

606
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:09.039
these genres we have now. So the foundation was the

607
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:13.400
same for everybody. Everybody's foundation was what they now call

608
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:20.880
classic rock. And you know, led Zeppelin, you know, Cream

609
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:30.159
Mountain Kiss, the Beatles, you know, and you know, I

610
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:32.840
can't even believe there's kids nowadays that don't know who

611
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:35.159
the Beatles are? How do you not know who the

612
00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:38.280
Beatles are? Like, you don't even have to like them,

613
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:41.000
but you should know who they are. I mean, and

614
00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:44.360
they were to me, they were geniuses what they did

615
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:48.239
because if you look at their whole career, they went

616
00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:51.039
in basically every area you could go. That was a

617
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:55.760
difference back then too. You take Elvis, Elvis crossed multiple genres,

618
00:36:56.239 --> 00:37:02.719
you know, Beatles cross multiple genres, and and experimentation. That

619
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:05.480
was one thing that I shouldn't have listened to my dad.

620
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:08.599
But when I started playing the guitar, I was like,

621
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:10.440
I didn't know what I was doing. So it's just

622
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:12.719
experimenting and see what sounds I could get out of

623
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:15.639
the guitar. And he's the one I see, like, you suck.

624
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:18.840
You shouldn't need You should give that up because you

625
00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:20.800
don't know how to play. And he didn't understand what

626
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:23.559
I was doing. I was trying to find out, like

627
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:26.360
you were even in the game before, what sounds I

628
00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:28.760
could make, because otherwise, how are you going to create

629
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.000
music if you're just basing on everything else.

630
00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:35.679
You heard exactly exactly, and you know what you mentioned

631
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:38.360
about Beatles and what It's funny like the kids that

632
00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:42.519
they know Beatles these days, it's because of their parents, right,

633
00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:46.920
you know, because their parents like Beatles, yeah, or any

634
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:50.559
other bands even like the when like because I have,

635
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:53.719
like I teach like mostly the kids, you know, and

636
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:58.599
they're like between like eight years old and fifteen mostly

637
00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:01.239
you know. And I can see like the ones that

638
00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:03.719
really like rock for example, is because of the parents.

639
00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:06.880
Yeah, you know, and that's all that's that is the

640
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:10.000
difference nowadays too, because I remember when I was a

641
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:14.280
teenager probably you too. There's no way my parents would

642
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:17.199
ever go to the shows I was going to. Oh

643
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:25.880
and nowadays, like I bring my grandkids man, you know. Uh,

644
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:31.559
And so you're absolutely correct. That's something I've talked about recently.

645
00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:36.480
That's very interesting about how you know, this is like

646
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:39.280
the first time I think in history that parents and

647
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:42.239
kids they liked the same music.

648
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:45.480
I didn't like the same music off my.

649
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:47.719
Parents did, right, I didn't.

650
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:50.119
I didn't have that influence of my parents.

651
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:54.559
I had my older brother. Okay. So it's funny because

652
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:59.079
I was interviewing, uh, John Lodge from the Moody Blues recently,

653
00:38:59.880 --> 00:39:02.440
and I told them I'm like, listen, I had a

654
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:05.199
brother that was eleven years older than me. I know

655
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:08.239
about you because I stole his a Moody Blues albums

656
00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:09.960
and listened to him while I was a little kid

657
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:14.280
and he's like, yeah, we're that band. Almost everybody has

658
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:17.400
that story of their older sibling. That's how they found

659
00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:20.199
out about us. And so yeah, it wasn't the parents.

660
00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:24.840
Nowadays it's it's the parents, like because we are the

661
00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:26.159
parents now right right.

662
00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:27.119
Like.

663
00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:31.679
I gotta hide my albums if my kids or grandkids

664
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:35.440
come here because they're gonna want them, whereas before like

665
00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:39.320
my parents like, uh yeah no, if I never hear

666
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:44.119
that again, it won't be too soon, you know. And

667
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:49.280
that is the one cool part about nowadays, I think

668
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:52.719
because he didn't have that then. Oh but but yeah,

669
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:58.039
that foundation like when I was if you were teaching

670
00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:00.840
me guitar, way back when I would come to you

671
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:02.880
and say, hey, I want to play like Jimmy Page,

672
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:04.679
I want to play like Randy Rose, I want to

673
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:07.199
play like you know, Leslie West. I want to play

674
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:11.400
like Eric Clapton. And nowadays, what I have to ask

675
00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:15.280
you is, what did a do the kids even have

676
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:18.000
an idol that they asked that they want to play like.

677
00:40:18.519 --> 00:40:21.239
No, see, I have no reference at all.

678
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:25.199
See that's the difference because there's no real there's not

679
00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:29.039
really a lot of standouts nowadays, you know, you don't

680
00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:31.719
have that. Like there's bands that you can love and

681
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:35.119
you wouldn't name any of the musicians, whereas, like I remember,

682
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:38.840
I knew the members of every every member of the band.

683
00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:39.760
You know.

684
00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:44.559
It's like you know even the people you wouldn't think

685
00:40:44.599 --> 00:40:46.800
you would know. Type of thing. The other thing I

686
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:49.920
think I have too that you probably have is I

687
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.480
have this amazing ability no matter what song comes on

688
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:55.239
the radio, I can hear the first second of it

689
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:57.559
and I pretty much know what it is. And I

690
00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:01.000
also probably know all the lyrics too, you know, because

691
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:03.800
I had the lyrics in front of me, and I

692
00:41:03.800 --> 00:41:05.760
would listen to the album over and over again and

693
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:09.480
read along the lyrics the whole time instead of trying

694
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:12.480
and guess what it said. Nowadays that the kids just

695
00:41:12.599 --> 00:41:15.199
guess what it says, and usually you're wrong.

696
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:21.280
Yeah.

697
00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:27.039
Right, So the album was released on the eighteenth of October.

698
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:31.559
And tell everybody how they can connect you on socials

699
00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:34.159
on the web and how they can get the album

700
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:37.599
or check out all your YouTube videos and everything.

701
00:41:38.639 --> 00:41:43.119
So now my website's double dot Rodrodriguez dot net. Okay's

702
00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:47.239
Rodriguez with s at the end. He's not Rodriguez fast.

703
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:50.639
Oh, I'm going to correct that because I thought I

704
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:53.760
saw it. See, I knew I was doing something wrong.

705
00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:57.239
See that's mental programming, because when I created this title

706
00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:00.679
here that nobody you'll see is just for the recording.

707
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:03.800
I kept saying, looking back and forth, and I was like,

708
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:06.679
it's spelled differently. I better make sure I spelled right.

709
00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:09.239
And still in my head it was automatic, I put,

710
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:10.239
I put a zee.

711
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:13.760
But you know what, actually, actually it's all wrong, just

712
00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:18.000
because Rodriguez with zad at the end, it's just Spanish. Yeah,

713
00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:19.639
Rodriguez with ass at the end.

714
00:42:19.800 --> 00:42:22.519
Portugal's Portuguese. I'm glad you brought that up because I

715
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:25.119
was gonna bring something up earlier. You know how many

716
00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:29.119
people here in Florida think all the Brazilian people here

717
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:33.119
speak Spanish, and I'll actually start speaking Spanish to them,

718
00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:38.079
you know, And it is it. It is interesting that

719
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:42.159
nobody really knows that. And I do know that, okay,

720
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:45.440
And I thought it was cool. Also on your website

721
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:47.840
that on You're about you, it had it in English

722
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:52.320
and Portuguese, and so I know how that is because

723
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:54.280
I have a bunch of Brazilian friends and it's like

724
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:57.800
sometimes it's so annoying to them. People just like start

725
00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:00.880
speaking Spanish and like, you know, we don't speak Spanish.

726
00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:06.199
Actually depends because like I can't. I can't understand the

727
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:08.880
South America from Mexico.

728
00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:09.320
I can't.

729
00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:12.320
Just a different accent. I really can't understand. But but

730
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:15.960
it's you know what's funny. Uh here people think I'm

731
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:17.320
French because of my accent.

732
00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:22.239
That's funny. Yeah, And you know it's funny too because

733
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:25.199
you mentioned that I go to Costa Rica a lot

734
00:43:26.079 --> 00:43:31.079
and I I was just telling this story recently. I

735
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:35.159
was at a restaurant and this uh girl was serving

736
00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:39.159
me and I looked up and I'm like, you're Argentinian,

737
00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:42.280
aren't you? And she looked at me because I'm a gringo.

738
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:47.280
How do you know your accent? I can totally tell

739
00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:51.599
the difference in your Spanish and even speaking English with

740
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:57.400
your Spanish accent because the Argentinians they enunciate everything very strongly.

741
00:43:57.400 --> 00:43:59.960
That's why it's easier for me to understand in Argentinian

742
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:04.199
because they enunciate everything every other part of Spanish. They

743
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:07.719
like combine words and eliminate vowels. So if you're not

744
00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:11.280
really fluent, you don't know what they're saying. Then they're

745
00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:16.280
doing it so fast, and they're also very loud, and

746
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:19.519
they speak kind of hard. You know. They have this

747
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:23.000
hard accent. And I'm from New York and New Jersey,

748
00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:26.280
so like I assimilate to that anyway. They remind me

749
00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:27.199
of New Yorkers.

750
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:30.920
Okay, yeah here, like because of the accent. I think

751
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:33.840
people they think that I'm French because of Quebec, because

752
00:44:33.880 --> 00:44:38.639
Quebec is right. And yeah, many times, many times if oh,

753
00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:42.119
you're French right now, I'm not French. I speak French

754
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:46.159
a little bit, but it's not a Yeah. So you

755
00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:54.559
were talking the social media, Yeah, social media Rodrodriguez Official Instagram,

756
00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:58.519
TikTok and I'm very I'm very active on social media.

757
00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:01.800
My YouTube channel Rodrodrigue. I have the videos there. I

758
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:06.519
try to be as as active as possible. And there

759
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:10.239
are too and I and also my albums on Spotify

760
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:13.760
and also my band camp. You guys can find me there.

761
00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:16.800
I have like physical copies there, have sunk book with

762
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:23.000
all the taps that the guitar players can learn the songs. Yeah,

763
00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:23.840
I love it.

764
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:26.679
See that's all so old school to me. I love it.

765
00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:30.239
That should be new school, like musicians would be a

766
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:32.320
lot better if we had the old days where you

767
00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:35.280
had all that stuff that you're giving right now.

768
00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:38.840
Yeah, yeah, indeed, because you know what, like I grew

769
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:43.679
up with all of that, you know, Like I still

770
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:46.039
have a lot of song books of my favorite artists

771
00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:48.800
that I have, like the regional ones, like the physical

772
00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:50.320
song books, you know.

773
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:52.960
I remember going to a record store and I would

774
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:57.360
buy songbooks of bands and try to learn how to

775
00:45:57.400 --> 00:45:58.440
play by that.

776
00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:01.360
Oh yeah, and you know what, I have a funny story.

777
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:06.239
I have a I have a very very special albums

778
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:11.159
for me. One It's Inkling Mom, Scene's Rising Force. It

779
00:46:11.199 --> 00:46:14.239
was a big changing for me. It was a game

780
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:17.239
changing for sure, right and uh and During Theater is

781
00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:23.119
Awake those two albums because like before before Rising Force,

782
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:25.920
like my favorite guitar players were like Mardy Friedman and

783
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:30.360
Alexis Konik, and I was like more into like trash

784
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:34.400
and daft metal. And then and then I listened to

785
00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:37.719
Rising Force was like wow, what is this?

786
00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:38.559
You know?

787
00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:42.159
And then During Theater came out. I remember when I

788
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:45.079
when I when I heard Drink Theater first time was

789
00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:48.800
the radio show back in Brazil that was like nineteen

790
00:46:48.840 --> 00:46:52.840
eighty four and uh, and they were playing the demos

791
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:55.199
or like, I don't know the damos or the songs

792
00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:56.760
they were about to release of that album.

793
00:46:57.800 --> 00:46:58.239
And uh.

794
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:00.159
And I used to listen to that to that show

795
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:03.199
every week because you know, I really wanted to know

796
00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:06.360
new bands, right. That was the only way we have, right,

797
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:09.679
the radio shows or MTV or whatever. I didn't have

798
00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:14.079
MTV at home, but but I would listen to those

799
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:17.880
radio shows like every week every week and had like

800
00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:20.800
my tape. They're ready, Okay, we're going to play like

801
00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:23.320
this new song of this band. I would like record

802
00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:25.679
in and listen to it later, you know. And then

803
00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:28.400
they played this, uh this it was three or four

804
00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:33.760
songs from the Awake album. Yeah, I mean I think

805
00:47:33.840 --> 00:47:35.519
they played The first song was the Mirror like with

806
00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:41.280
seven strings. I was like, what is this? I was like, man,

807
00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:43.880
I've never heard any things have you like that? Because

808
00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:45.800
back in the day, I think that the only one

809
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:48.639
who played with seven strings was Steve Vibe with White Snake,

810
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:52.320
but he didn't play it that have you? Right? And

811
00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:55.440
I also I think Mark Gangel also played but it

812
00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:59.039
wasn't heavier right, like faster and you can't actually hear

813
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:02.400
the the seven of the string and when I heard that,

814
00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:04.760
I was like, what is this? And then the keyboards

815
00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:08.559
the kind of dark and also the the way that

816
00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:11.440
the singers singing the song. That was a totally game

817
00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:12.320
changing for me.

818
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:13.039
You know.

819
00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:17.000
So I have like the Rod before listening to Awake

820
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:21.440
and the Rod after listening to Awake. Wow, and I

821
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:24.280
got like, really I fell in love for the band

822
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:27.679
after that, you know wow. And the album didn't come out,

823
00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:30.159
and you know that was I think the album came

824
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:33.920
out in September, and uh, and we couldn't have the

825
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:36.360
CDs there. You know, it's just like at least a

826
00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:38.559
more at least like a month or two months to

827
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:42.559
get there, right. And I remember back in the day

828
00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:44.920
they were like so you could like rant CDs. Kind

829
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:48.519
of believe it, we could rant CDs. And I remember

830
00:48:48.599 --> 00:48:52.000
the Christmas of nineteen ninety four, I found that album

831
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:56.599
during theaters awake and I rented, you know, and I

832
00:48:56.639 --> 00:48:59.679
listened to that album like on the repeat, like I

833
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:02.920
would go to bad playing that album on a repeat,

834
00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:06.679
and and I would like a wake up with that

835
00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:10.039
album playing, you know, like that was for days, for days,

836
00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:12.920
like at least like five days. You know, that was

837
00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:15.679
a complete game that really that was a big game

838
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:18.960
changing in my life. Was was that album. After that album,

839
00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:21.719
I kind of like a lot more like open minded

840
00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:24.599
about music, and I started listening to other bands like

841
00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:28.079
Anger for example, Kiko's old band. You know, I had

842
00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:31.440
a huge impacting me too. Later I had the opportunity

843
00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:35.679
to have a few lessons with him. And anyway, so

844
00:49:35.880 --> 00:49:40.320
after that album, you know, I started listening to different

845
00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:42.679
kinds of music and also got more into like instrumental

846
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:48.000
music too, like sev I Angley, uh Satriani you know

847
00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:51.760
and all those guys and like and later like fusion

848
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:56.800
like Alan Holds or Scott Henderson, you know, like jazz

849
00:49:56.840 --> 00:49:58.960
and whatever you know, and all of these days I

850
00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:02.360
listened to anything basically anything. I'm not a country guide though,

851
00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:05.599
but or this spot these days of really don't like

852
00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:06.639
the New Boss, right.

853
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:10.599
That's why I like Mustaine though, because it's like jazz

854
00:50:10.679 --> 00:50:15.159
metal kind of yeah, right, like you listen that in

855
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:19.760
Killing is My Business like Last Rights, Oh, it's totally

856
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:23.960
you know. And then uh, I'm also a big Michael

857
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:29.719
Schenker fan. You know, all us metal heads, you know,

858
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:33.480
we all started kind of with Ufo. You know, it's

859
00:50:33.559 --> 00:50:36.559
kind of funny because I saw something recently about that.

860
00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:39.400
I'm like, oh, that was true, like so many metal

861
00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:47.360
heads like UFO is the most unknown popular band there is.

862
00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:50.800
Somebody said that like recently, because if you talk to

863
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:55.519
every metal head, they all like UFO and it's not

864
00:50:55.599 --> 00:51:00.519
really it's not even really metal. Well see that's because

865
00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:03.599
like I was going to Metallica's first shows, so the

866
00:51:03.719 --> 00:51:08.679
reference was Ufo, Oh yeah, to Metallic, Like, of course

867
00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:10.719
Metallica is one of my favorite bands. And you can

868
00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:14.039
see by my shirt, you know I am. I am

869
00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:17.679
a Slayer fan. What did their first show ever? You know,

870
00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:20.639
but like Slayer, they all played cover songs in the

871
00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:24.039
beginning that of all the like British you know, heavy

872
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:28.639
metal invasion stuff, So people don't realize, like you use that,

873
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:31.000
you have that, as we were talking before, You have

874
00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:34.719
that as the foundation, then build on that, you build

875
00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:38.559
on that. So these new musicians today, what are they

876
00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:42.760
building on if they're if they don't know these other bands,

877
00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:45.320
what are they building on? That's what I wonder.

878
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:50.000
Yeah, indeed, indeed, yeah, and you know.

879
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:51.119
You are a badass.

880
00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:52.320
Thank you.

881
00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:55.000
Everybody's got to get your album and they can't listen

882
00:51:55.039 --> 00:51:55.440
to my show.

883
00:51:55.719 --> 00:51:56.239
I'm trying.

884
00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:04.000
Thank you? What final words you leave the listeners with? Oh?

885
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:07.840
So if you guys can listen to you all? What

886
00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:11.679
all the worst we sat here today? You know, keep

887
00:52:11.719 --> 00:52:14.719
in mind everything, you know, Listen to your favorite artists,

888
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:19.119
buy their albums, go to their shows, you know, get

889
00:52:19.159 --> 00:52:23.320
their merch you know, don't like just skip the songs

890
00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:26.800
on the spotfy I know I don't like this three

891
00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:28.960
seconds of the song. Listen to it.

892
00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:32.079
Some of my favorite songs if I only listen the

893
00:52:32.119 --> 00:52:36.400
first three seconds, I wouldn't even know them today. Can

894
00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:40.719
you imagine these kids listening Battery? Oh, they wouldn't make

895
00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:41.559
it to the good.

896
00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:45.639
Part exactly exactly. This is one How long is the

897
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:47.920
intro the class?

898
00:52:48.360 --> 00:52:53.280
It's like ten to twenty seconds? Yeah, you know, like

899
00:52:53.440 --> 00:52:56.960
so you would never know. That's the thing. My generation,

900
00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:01.039
we waited through that stuff because we knew something good

901
00:53:01.320 --> 00:53:02.320
about to happen.

902
00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:06.199
Exactly exactly exactly. And you know what they probably think, like, oh,

903
00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:08.119
but this song is called Battery, But it's kind of

904
00:53:08.159 --> 00:53:09.039
a ballad.

905
00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:16.760
You know, right. But see that's the whole key to me.

906
00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:20.719
A good song builds up, the build up and I

907
00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:24.199
think that's what's missing in songwriting today because they've actually,

908
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:27.079
I was talking to somebody about this, they've actually changed

909
00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:31.719
songwriting today to appeal to the track track track mentality.

910
00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:35.920
So it's like, get ready intros, get rid of solos,

911
00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:39.000
get rid of bridges. You're not gonna have three verses

912
00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:40.000
now there's only two.

913
00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:46.199
Yeah, like, but sometimes and sometimes the songs, sometimes the

914
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:48.719
song begins with the of the chorus.

915
00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:53.239
Right right exactly. Yeah, you got to get right to

916
00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:58.239
the point, you know, Like music's a journey, is my opinion.

917
00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:01.920
And that's not the journey. That's just you know, a

918
00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:06.280
temporary a temporary high. You want the full high. Listen

919
00:54:06.320 --> 00:54:08.880
to the whole album exactly exactly.

920
00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:12.960
And also also the live shows, it's not the same

921
00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:14.760
as you watch but watch it on YouTube or a

922
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:15.920
DVD or blat.

923
00:54:16.519 --> 00:54:18.960
I don't get it's here at all. I don't get

924
00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:21.159
people that go to live shows and watch it through

925
00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:26.000
their phone. Okay, I'm a journalist and I'm required to

926
00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:28.880
do and I just do like a few seconds, okay,

927
00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:33.039
and that's what I do. But I could watch it

928
00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:36.159
on YouTube at home if or I laugh. I go

929
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:38.440
on tour and I do all these fiestivals. The people

930
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:41.039
that are sitting in front of the big screen, not

931
00:54:41.119 --> 00:54:44.559
even near the stage, sitting down watch it do that

932
00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:50.280
at home, you know, like live music. I'm a firm

933
00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:53.440
believer that if we didn't cut out the live music

934
00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:56.360
during that two years of the pandemic, we wouldn't be

935
00:54:56.400 --> 00:54:57.719
so pissed off right now.

936
00:54:57.920 --> 00:55:01.960
Oh yeah, you need it. We knowed music you need.

937
00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:03.840
And you know what, sometimes I see when and go

938
00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:07.880
I always go to concerts, and uh sometimes I see

939
00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:11.920
people like sitting right beside me on their TikTok while

940
00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:16.840
the guy's shratting or you know, like really, you know,

941
00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:21.960
not even feel me in, but let's sitting there Like why, yeah, I.

942
00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:22.559
Don't get it.

943
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:23.679
I don't don't get it.

944
00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:26.159
Like, oh my god, you feel like.

945
00:55:26.119 --> 00:55:29.840
Two hundred bucks to get the ticket, you know, go there.

946
00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:35.519
Like I should start a new business. Pay me two

947
00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:37.920
hundred dollars. You can come to my place and scroll

948
00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:38.760
through your TikTok.

949
00:55:43.559 --> 00:55:45.880
Well that's a really good idea. I'm gonna keep that

950
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:46.360
in mind.

951
00:55:46.639 --> 00:55:50.400
There it is. Well, it's been a pleasure. You're a

952
00:55:50.480 --> 00:55:55.039
badass musician, and uh, you know, thank you for taking

953
00:55:55.079 --> 00:55:57.360
the time to make great music and thanks for being

954
00:55:57.360 --> 00:55:58.639
on the Adventures of fight Man.

955
00:55:59.199 --> 00:56:00.880
Thank you, thank you for very much for having me.

956
00:56:01.639 --> 00:56:02.679
I'll see you next time.

957
00:56:03.400 --> 00:56:05.000
Absolutely thank you

958
00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:10.880
For listening to the Adventures of Pateman on w for

959
00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:12.840
CUI Radio.