June 4, 2025

PipemanRadio Interviews Sean Horror of DarkFlow About Imminent End

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Swiss Goth / Horror / Shock Metal Band DARKFLOW Release New Album "Imminent End",

Produced, recorded, mixed, and mastered by Andy LaRocque (legendary guitarist of King Diamond) at Sonic Train Studio in Sweden, Imminent End is a concept album that takes listeners through a dark and chaotic vision of the world’s collapse. LaRocque not only helmed the production but also contributes a blistering guest solo on the epic track “The Last Symphony.” Brian Bendahan did the orchestration of all the songs.

I embody Sean Horror, returning from hell to destroy the Earth before God can. It’s a race for apocalypse. ‘Press The Button’ finds Sean forcing a powerful man to unleash nuclear chaos. And the final song, ‘Whistles From The Sky,’ is my laughter as I’ve outdone God—winning the destruction of mankind and ushering in the end of all civilization.”

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Internet radio station.

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Here's your host, the pipe Man.

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Big all right the first time? Way? Why you crying?

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As is the just do what I say?

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Now we're this world be This is the pipe Man

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here on the Adventures of pipe Man W four c

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Y Radio. And I'm really excited about our next guest

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because we went way on the other side of the

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world to one of my favorite places and we have

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with us Sean Horror from Darkflow.

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How are you.

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I'm here fine in my house in bed answering to

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you so we can chalk and discuss about the release

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of Imminence.

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And yes, absolutely, I want to know. My first thing

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I want to know is how come some of the

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best music comes o places in your area like Sweden

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and the other Scandinavian countries like it seems to me

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that six months of darkness may help because you have

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nothing to do but create.

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Well, I have to I have to correct you there.

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I come from Switzerland. Oh sorry, I did the album

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on Sweden with Adela rock by the way, so that's

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going to be excitedly. The album was born in Sweden,

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but the creation was here in Switzerland in the middle

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of Europe, and it's easy to for us to create music,

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as you said, like really good music, because nobody knows

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who the fuck comes from Switzerland, and nobody knows people

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from Switzerland, and we are just a majestic people from

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a majestic land that nobody fucking knows nothing. So when

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you see a musician an artist I don't know, like

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like Coroner or bands like that, like Celtic Frost, Sami

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or things like that, you see, well, that should be

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a really dark, tiny environment. It is right, really is

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because people here we have the natural thing that I

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call it the natural selection of countries that we have

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a country that has so much money that we have

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us me. I am a man that only works in

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music and I can live with a peaceful life with it.

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And I are not even known in the worldwide area.

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I don't sell albums or I don't have a huge

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oyal this or nothing, and just somebody who lects to

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compose and write with his mates with bandmates, and we

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bring out music and we do what we can.

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And I definitely want to hear the story about the

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new album because it always fascinates me. Like it's one

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thing if you write music. It's another thing when you

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write a whole album based on a whole story. It's

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not just you know, writing some pop song that you

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know makes no sense. I mean, this is real, Like

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this album depicts really what's.

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Going on in the world right now.

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Well, the story about I mean intent is the trilogy

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of our albums before we launch our first TP about

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the death of our close ones. Then I released an

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album called Insane Circus about my own mortality because I

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got singing with an eurogy the generative situation it's actually

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and then wandering around the internet and seeing what's going

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on in the world, they start like having this heavy

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thought that shit is really going really off. So just

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to keep it a little bit in mind of the people,

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I wrote songs that are not far from the reality

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that we're all living, that anything can be ended in

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any moment if an idiot or another idiot, because there

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are two main idiots in this story or maybe three

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that are that are really really freaking dangerous. So those

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dangerous people that I know not want to point because

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I don't want to get political can do really bad

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to this world. And now if you see also all

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the things that are happening. We have problems with the

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climate change, we have problems with the economic there are

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our economical issues in the world. You see what's going

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on in South America, you see what's going on North America.

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You see what's going on here in Europe, and you

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see that everything is decreasing and people are getting mad.

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So they're getting more righty, they're getting more facists, they're

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getting more senophobic, they're getting more that's creating more, let's say,

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like little problems, micro issue problems in society which are

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bursting here and there, and these micro issues are bringing

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a collapse in the union of society. And the union

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of society is what maintains a population. So if the

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population cannot resist this, then who is taking care of it?

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Our political our political heroes, our leaders, those matter of

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facts are wondering how to destroy it between each other

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and using our taxes to build gangs and bonds and

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all that shit, and not to construct I don't know more,

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a better education for the people, give medical aids to

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people who really needs it, and stuff like that. So

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society is collapsing and we are not far from living

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in a dystopian world. In fact, we're leaving it. It's

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the present is a present. The present is his topic.

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So if you see that the president is topic, then

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you can see the dystopian. Every dystopan history finishes in

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an apocalypse, and that's imminent and imminent. And it's an

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album that explains from the A Z how the world

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can go to an imminent apocalypse. I bring a lot

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of also just maintaining this low profile with religion, that

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God comes out of knowword to destroy humanity, and I

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that I died in our first album, I come from

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health to destroy Earth. But the representation of me in

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this album is the representation of one fucking stupid leader

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who can just press a fucking button and bring death

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to everyone.

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Well, you know, it's kind of funny you should say that,

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because I say, with all the politicians, they're all on

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the same team and it ain't mine, you know, like

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they're like two sides of the same coin basically, you know,

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and we're all falling for it, like we're dividing. And

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that's the oldest trick in the book. And that's the

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sure way the end civilization is to be divided.

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More, the safest way to civilization is to be divided,

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and one first too and the other the other. The

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other one is going to be ended by themselves. So

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it's how it happens, and it had been happening a

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lot of times. You can see what happened in the

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Roman Empire. You can see what happened in the French

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Empire with this idiot of this, this criminal idiot called

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the tiny guy who Napoleon Napole. Thank you. I was

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thinking about that, and things are going really fastly in

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this moment that everybody wants to conquer and destroy. It's

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my playing It's like they're playing games, you know, with society,

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and that will take its toll. And that's true.

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Yeah, well so you know it's you.

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We're saying.

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Yes, it's well, it's funny that you should say that,

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because I have been saying all the time for years

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now that the minute the US became the loan superpower,

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or considered the loan superpower, that's the end, because every

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empire in history has always gone down. And to me,

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I look at being the loan superpower as being that empire.

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That's going to be the next one to go down.

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Well, let's say that it's going absolutely down. You have,

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where are you from exactly from the US?

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I'm in Florida.

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I'm not from here, but that's where I'm at now,

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which is like kind of the Adam and Gomora of

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the States.

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Well, I have people who lives in Miami, have friends there,

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so yeah, I can understand. It's like it's the most

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narcissist placed in all It's like, I don't know, it's

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like the trash can of of the US. It is.

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Don't want to say like that because you live there,

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but it's.

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What I mean. I don't mind. Listen.

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I've always said to people from other countries, if you're

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going to come visit the US, Florida is not your

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first stop.

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This does not represent the United States.

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I went to Disney World, and it's not my perception

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of the States. I've been also in New York, I've

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been in I don't know if i've been California in fact,

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but I've been in the ive been even in Hawaii,

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so I know the US. It's really different from in

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which area you are, you know, it's.

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Oh yeah, totally It's like it's kind of like Europe,

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where you know, every state is a different country basically

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because we have different cultures, different upbringings, different ways of life,

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different types of people. Everything's different, and even the language

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is different. Like I'm originally from New York and New

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Jersey and most of the time.

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Why you have the accent of New Jersey. That's the

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thing that I could recognize.

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Yeah, see, And most of the time I can't even

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understand the people in the South. Sometimes if I'm in

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the Deep South, I don't even know what they're saying.

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What in the Deep South of the States, nobody right exactly. Now.

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The thing is that, of course the United States in

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this moment it's bringing up and blooming again with Donald

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Trump and all that shit. But what it's safer it's

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going on, I don't know. The problem is now the

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Eastern Europe things, uh, the Chinese. So that's the three

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main problems, the US government, the Eastern government. While put

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in of course the Chinese guy, he's really kind of crazy.

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There's just a fucking intelligence that's the early problem.

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Well, you know it's funny too.

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I even saw an articles recently that Elon Musk was

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on all kinds of drugs when he was doing in

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all this stuff the past few months, and we're not

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talking about pot like he was.

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This is what they're saying.

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I don't know if it's for sure, but ketamine and

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LSD and extra y.

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You know, he was sure in that. He was sure

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in that. It's completely You can see it in how

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he rises. A picture of his eyes. You can see

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that his eyes are not focused to nothing. And I

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can and I could say it before I said it

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to my wife. This guy is like how you can

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be have such power and be in so much drugs

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at the same time. I've been in drugs in my life.

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I understood what it is, and I know how people

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can go completely madd.

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A guy with that power, Yeah, that's scary.

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Giving giving given power, a hungry power, guy with so

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much resources, with so much money. Doesn't most injuroushitt in

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the world.

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No doubt, no doubt.

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I said before, like, you're giving the richest man in

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the world who's on drugs access to the whole US treasury.

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That makes no sense to me.

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Well, that's a That's the way I wrote this album.

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In Safe the things are getting messy.

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I'm not even sure where to go anymore.

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Like in twenty sixteen, I went and stayed in Europe

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for four months to watch from Afar, figuring I'd be

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safer over there. Now because I travel so much, I'm like,

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I don't even know where it's safe in the world

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because everybody's following our lead. I was in Bali and

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talking to these Australians and they're like, yeah, they're following

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our lead, like everybody's falling. And I don't think it's

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a good lead to follow. It was maybe at one time,

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but not right there second.

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In this moment, No, And I can and I can

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understand it, so I can answer that question for you.

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I come from Chile, oh okay.

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I was born and raised in Chide, and in that

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country that is like an island because you have the mountains,

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the desert, the glaciers in the south and everything. Nobody

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can come inside if you don't send a bomb to

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destroy the country, but nothing is going to mess with it. Yeah, So,

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but a refuge there's a good refugee there for people

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who want to get the fuck out of bombs and

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countries that can be exploded or imploded by their own leaders.

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I love Coasta Rica. I go there every year to

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escape the insanity. It's like last year I was there,

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my brothers called me, did you see the news? I'm

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like no, and I don't care. I'm going to serve

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and have a nice day.

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Well, our guitar player went to Costa Rica recently. I've

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been there before and it's a really peaceful place. It's

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really beautiful, and you have shit loads of lizards that

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are really cool, and the ocean for fox sake.

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Oh yeah, And you know, here's something interesting we were

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talking before, you know.

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Health care.

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I actually had two heart attacks, both surfing. One was

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in Hawaii, one was in Costa Rica. Hawaii cost me

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four hundred thousand dollars. Costa Rica cost me zero because

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they put me in their system like I was a

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citizen and they have free health care, and their health

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care was better because the second heart attack was caused

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by the American health care that I paid four hundred

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thousand for. So it just amazes me. You could go

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to a country like Costa Rica, who is considered a

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third world country, and get stellar health care for free.

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Well, the thing is, that's that's the greed that you

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live in the States it's they don't want to open

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things into the people that they need because they don't

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want to loose that control over people. People who have

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cancer in the States, they have to choose between living

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or dying, and that's nothing. That's not the choice choice

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that you want to make. That's not a cho Either

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I go onto treatment and my family is fucked for life.

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Either I die and I can give them money to

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my son.

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You know.

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That's the thing. While here in Switzerland, well, everybody has healthcare,

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insurances and everything, even if you're paying, and people sometimes

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are saying, well, but we are paying for something that

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we don't use. Yeah, but it's not for you, it's

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for the people. Yeah. I am not a left wing

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or right wing person. I am just objectivist. You see

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that the society needs something, just put it on society

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and stop bothering about it because it's something that people need.

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And if people don't have their needs controlled. What happened.

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People are ashamed of what they're living. They don't like

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what is going on. There's a lot of rioting. Rioting

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goes into looting, and looting goes into criminality for the

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society and killing. So the state is really, really, really

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in a delicate position in this moment because people are

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learning more and more than almost every fucking country in

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the world they have healthcare except them.

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I know. It's the weirdest thing to me.

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It's just ach country.

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It just blows my And it's not only that, but

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the cost of it, Like for one little like tail

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and all, if you go to a hospital, it's like

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twenty dollars for one little pill that costs them maybe

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a penny to make. It's ridiculous, Like we shouldn't have

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this problem as a country that we are. And you know,

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I love what you said too about you know, for everybody.

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I was in Denmark one time and I was sitting

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with like eight other people, all from different countries, all

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different religions, all different you know, political viewpoints and all that,

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and not one of us was arguing. I'm like you, like,

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I don't believe in picking sides, Okay, you don't have

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to be one way or the other, maybe a mix

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of both, you know, because there's certain things you know,

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and even on yes, yeah, And so I remember this

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one girl, she was the only Danish girl there and

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somebody was saying to her about, you know, the socialism

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in her country and how much taxes they pay and

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all that, And she said, you know what, I don't mind,

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because I would rather share with my fellow countrymen. Why

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should I have two cars and my neighbor have none.

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I'd rather share, so if I have to pay more taxes,

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so we all can live a good life. And I

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was like, man, everybody in the world should have that attitude, like,

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let's I look out for humans.

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I live in a country that we think is the same.

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You know, Switzerland is exactly the same point of that

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point of view. We share everything there has the high

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taxes there are. It is a rich country. Is the

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is the international bank from the world. We have all

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the treasures of Hitler here hidden somewhere. We have all

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these insurances because there's not so much people. It's a country.

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It's a little country with ten million people. But nobody

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can fuck with these people, right because nobody wants to

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attack the bank, right. I love to check the bank.

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So this bank maintains its society. Now, other countries like

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the States, that is the first example. It has so

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much resources and they used in the military. Did you

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see into going investing into more businesses? And that's not

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good because you're trying to make people work more, you're

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trying to make people get the most sick, and nobody

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is helping society to believe all this. Yeah, and people

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are getting tired, people are getting angry, people are getting

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really in the tensation. You can see what's going on.

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I've been talking with a girl from Texas. Well, this

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is transgender girl and all share and she's from Texas,

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and it's like, people doesn't under tend me here of

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who the fuck is going to understand you during fucking

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Texas first of all, seconds of all your understates, who

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the fuck is going to understand you need to have

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a change of sex? Okay, It's just it's your decision,

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and the government is not going to help you. Of course,

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you're not going to have your hear insitue and people

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helps that kind of decisions, you know. And I don't

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care if you want to be whatever you want to be.

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The thing that is important is that you are happy

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as a citizen. And if you're not helpless a citizen,

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that's going to bring problems in society. And what's problem

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in society a parent society is when people are attacking

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their government and when people are starting attacking their government.

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What's going on just out of control, and that's creating

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chaos anarchism. And when you create chaos and anarchism, it's

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like you're bringing down society and what's going on. Then

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people that are in the upper level of society are

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attacking to those who are under level in society, and

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that creates what separation. And if you bring separation really

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clearly into people, there's going to be a lot of

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missy stuff going on, a lot of kidding.

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And there already is where I am.

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There's a lot of it, you know, in Florida, And

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like I'm you know, the fact of the matter is,

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I agree with you. I just believe, like everybody, you

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just do you. And as long as you're not intentionally

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hurting anybody, what do I give a crap what you do,

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who you have sex with, what gender you want to be,

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any of that crap. It doesn't affect my life in

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any way, shape or form. That's what I'll get people

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that try to stop these other people from doing what

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they want to do and doesn't even.

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Affect their life, Like, who cares you do? You let

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them do them?

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It's likely that what it's telling a lot in my country? Well,

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what are the reasons that I had to leave my country?

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Was because I was always speaking out loud against religion,

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against people having like why we don't have abortion in

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this country. Everybody's like, really, you have the obligation to

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live a child and I don't wanted born child. Just

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give them the truth, you just don't have them, you know, no, no, no,

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because this is against the law. And what is the

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low the fucking religious people are making lost in this country?

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Why am paying ten percent of my fucking texts are

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going to the fucking for the fucking Catholic Church. I

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don't believe in that shit, right, I don't want to

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pay that ship. I don't blame themselves.

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That's I don't blame you.

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That's why I love your music, because music is the

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best therapy and the best way to tell a story

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and the best way to unite people. And that is

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what I think you're doing with this album. It's like

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you're painting the picture for people. But then people can,

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like civilly discuss these things instead of the whack ship

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that's going on right now.

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Well, that's what I wanted to make with this album,

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is to present people this this is going to happen

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in one moment or another. It can happen now, you

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don't have any ten years. It could happen in one

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hundred years, but it's happening. Yeah, So you have to

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just see between the lyrics, see between the songs, go

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through the story of the album and think yourself, why

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there is a guy in Switzerland that comes from Chile

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writing all this apocalyptic prophecy. It is because people are

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thinking about this and these hypocalyptical ideas have come before

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in the eighties. Well, you can see terminature and all

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that shit. But the thing is that now we're living

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in it, right, We're living that. We're living where you

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have robots, you have the AI, you have a lot

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of things that were fantastic in the moment and sci

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fi that now it's that was really for futuristic. Now

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we're living it. It's sisting.

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It's it's scary too, because like I'm from the eighties

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and we me and my bro we used to go

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like that doesn't matter, the world's going to blow up in

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nineteen eight for anyway, So you know, we'll just do

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what we're going to do. And I always said the

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machines are going to take over. And now every movie

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that I ever watched as a teenager is now like

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true life. And that's what's scary.

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That's the thing, you know, That's that's what I what

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I say that in the song Artificial Doom, I took

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about the new controlling race because these guy's in this song,

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in fact, instead of helping or destroying humanity, they just

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stand back and see the movie that they want to

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see people destroying each other until they explode everything and

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then take over.

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And you know what, it's funny like that. I won't

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mention the.

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Word because YouTube doesn't like the word, but that lockdown

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that we had it reminded me of I think it

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was Demolition Man, the movie where yeah, and I'm like,

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oh my god, we're being demolition Man, like we're gonna

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go sleep and wake up one day and we're not

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allowed to touch anybody and we're not allowed to have actual

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sexual relations, no fluid interaction or that. I'm like, wow,

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like and you wonder is it prophetic or when people

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are writing these movies or are they prepping us Like

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they know that this is where it's going, so they're

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they're like softening the blow, getting us used to it.

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Well, I think when I was writing this solve, I

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said to myself, well, I'm like saying to people whenever

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my makeup and all that stuff is the prophecy of

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the end of the world and stuff. But now we're

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taking people to people, you know, men to men. Yeah,

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I am just watching what's going on in the world

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and saying, well, I think I might be where it

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might be. Well if with my creativity I bring to

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society to think, to those who are hearing my music

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to think and to develop themselves and say, well, this

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guy has a little bit of reason in this because

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he's touching a point that might happen, and he's not

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far from reality. And that's the thing. And you know,

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and I'm going to come back from something that you said,

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the smoke screen that happened in twenty twenty, because for

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it was smoke screen, but smoke screen created for me

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my own apocalypse. Because I lost everything with that hurt everything.

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I was owner of a bar I had. I had

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a career in marketing with with festivals and culture areas

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and restoration and bars and all that stuff. I had

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a lot of clients and from one day channel everything stopped,

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and I didn't have any assurances because I confront Chile,

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I am not a native Swiss guy, so I didn't

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have all the all the security and the insurances to

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give me the power to live here. So they just

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I just stopped. I was winning like fourteen thousand a month.

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I started zero from one day to another, and that's

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where I was living. I lost everything and I lost

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my health because I went to distrustful area and my

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brain collapsed. And then I started just doing music. So

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our first year was released in twenty twenty, was your trough,

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00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:21.359
this music never done, Never do that again in a pandemic.

457
00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:30.839
And then since got a little bit better. We did

458
00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:35.200
the first album in Saint Circus. There was a description

459
00:26:35.319 --> 00:26:37.880
of my situation. It was really personal and needed to

460
00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:40.119
explain what was going on because everybody or all the

461
00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:42.480
doctors were telling me you're dying. So it was like,

462
00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:45.559
well before I before I died, and to say, let's

463
00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:50.200
fog you to earth and give an album and then

464
00:26:50.680 --> 00:26:53.039
I don't know why I'm still alive. And then I

465
00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:56.079
said to myself, well, let's do this second album and

466
00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:58.279
see where we go after with this.

467
00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:01.720
That's probably why you our lives so your message can

468
00:27:01.759 --> 00:27:05.000
get out there. And you know, we never know what

469
00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:09.559
we're really destined for, so you know, what happened to

470
00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:13.559
you might have been a blessing in disguise. Sometimes we're

471
00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:16.200
forced in a different direction that turns out good.

472
00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:19.240
Well. As my brother told me one time, he told

473
00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:22.880
me where you were blessed and cursed by the same situation.

474
00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:27.000
Because of your situation, you were cursed, of course, but

475
00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:30.039
the blessing is that you could start doing your music.

476
00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:34.079
You met with a King Diamonds guitar player and did

477
00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:37.960
our rock to do two albums and he produced the

478
00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:40.920
last one. So we have been like in touch a

479
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:43.279
lot to create all this. He came to Switzerland to

480
00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:46.240
compose with us. We went to his studio to record

481
00:27:46.279 --> 00:27:48.440
the album at the Sunny Trains studio there. You know,

482
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:51.200
we worked at these four months. I went to alone

483
00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:55.160
there to record my songs, my lyrics, my voice and everything.

484
00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:59.279
And that's kind of one of my dreams when I

485
00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:01.680
was a child, because I'm what you can see, I

486
00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:04.119
have Merciful fake T shirts, so I'm a really keen

487
00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:08.960
name and merciful faith fan. I always wanted to work

488
00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:11.160
with one of the guys, and I did a rock

489
00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:15.759
is my favorite guitar player and I've been into their

490
00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:18.960
music since I I'm really young. So working with one

491
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:23.119
of my heroes was one was one of my I

492
00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:24.039
don't know, let's.

493
00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:25.839
Say bucket less vis.

494
00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:29.759
Yeah, it was a fucking bucket list. But how you

495
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:32.640
reach with that guy, how you can just reach it?

496
00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:37.119
Just to produce something, you know, you have to have money, resources,

497
00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:39.400
You have to have the time, you have to have

498
00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:42.440
the energy, you have to have the health to record songs,

499
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:42.759
you have.

500
00:28:42.759 --> 00:28:43.839
To have a lot of things, you know.

501
00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:46.960
And I prepared myself to to try to do that,

502
00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:49.680
and I did it once and now I did it twice.

503
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:56.279
And I'm really thankful because I could create something now

504
00:28:56.359 --> 00:28:59.079
that is not only for me, and it's not talking

505
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:03.119
about me. It's talking about the whole world. And I

506
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:06.920
think there it's a message that people need to hear. Yeah,

507
00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:10.799
And I really believe that if we are if we

508
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:14.160
reach people to hear what's going on and what could happen,

509
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:19.079
then we can make people check between them. As you

510
00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:23.559
were saying, you open some eyes and some minds to

511
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:26.759
make them chalk between them and try to find solutions

512
00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:29.599
at least a society because our leaders are not going

513
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:30.039
to do shit.

514
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:33.119
No, not at all. And I think it's pretty cool

515
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:35.640
too that Andy even he not only produce it, but

516
00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:39.400
played on on the album too.

517
00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:44.160
Right, He did a solo as a guest artist, featuring

518
00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:48.960
in the song the Last Symphony, that is the song

519
00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:53.160
with God coming on earth to destroy humanity after being

520
00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:56.000
mad at them for being so fucking greed.

521
00:29:56.599 --> 00:29:59.839
Yeah, that's coming too, Like that's as bad as prope

522
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:02.599
as we get. Because if I was God, I'd be

523
00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:03.559
pissed right now.

524
00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:07.000
Well, the thing is that there's a there's a scrip

525
00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:09.720
written like I or know like it was written in

526
00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:14.440
the year on thousand and two hundreds something like that. Yeah,

527
00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:16.640
it's I think it's from the twelfth century or the

528
00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:20.240
eleventh century, I don't remember really well where that it's

529
00:30:20.279 --> 00:30:24.559
called God's Rough and that's what I'm talking in this song.

530
00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:28.799
It's I'm talking about God's Rough. God coming with the

531
00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:34.799
four Horsemen from the Apocalypse and kill everyone and chaos

532
00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:38.400
going everywhere and everybody chilling them apart, everybody killing each other,

533
00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:43.440
raining chaos while he's killing everybody. And then in the

534
00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:47.880
other songs, I come as myself Shan Horror, the general

535
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:51.640
from Hell to destroy Earth before God. So there's also

536
00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:56.839
in the end of the album this really portrayed heaven

537
00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:01.880
versus health thing where he'll always win because evil always wins.

538
00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:05.839
And that's a description that I always wanted to interpret

539
00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:09.920
it because we have some thing that people doesn't know

540
00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:13.720
and doesn't understand that history has been written only by

541
00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:17.400
those who who want the worst, not but those who lose, Yeah,

542
00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:20.000
who lost the worst, you know, not but the good people,

543
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:23.839
if not by those who want and some or mainly

544
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:28.680
people who win. It's not the kind of guy that

545
00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:31.880
you want to have with you in your dinner party.

546
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:36.039
Now, because so when at all costs. That's the difference exactly.

547
00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:38.519
They don't have fucking moral they don't have fucking values,

548
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:46.200
they don't have They only have this feeling about conquering

549
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:50.680
and being powerful and being selfish. I mean a fucking idiot.

550
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:54.079
And so for me, idiots created history.

551
00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:58.559
That's a great way of put it. I have to

552
00:31:58.680 --> 00:32:02.400
agree with that full hardly. So tell everybody how they

553
00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:04.519
can reach out to you on socials, on the web,

554
00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:08.319
how they can get the new album, check out your merge,

555
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:10.039
all that good stuff.

556
00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:13.119
Well, Little by little First of all, if you want

557
00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:16.200
to support dark Flow, go to our bank camp by

558
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:19.240
the album in the digital version, or you can buy

559
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:21.319
it also in the vinyl version, which is in band

560
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:24.200
camp too. And if you want to just give us

561
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:26.960
numbers to have people hearing it, or if you are

562
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:29.880
a I don't know, an agent or whatever fucking level

563
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:32.359
you can be working on, go and hear us on

564
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:36.440
any streaming side and you can hear imminence and and

565
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:39.000
if you like it, you can send us an email.

566
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:43.680
You can go to Darkflow dot c that is our website.

567
00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:47.720
You can contact me and I will answer to you.

568
00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:51.039
Anybody can talk to me. I'm open to talk to everybody.

569
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:55.799
For me, it's just creating relationship with people. I am

570
00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:59.039
not the most famous person and James fucking Hatfield, so

571
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:01.720
I will not be harassed. I am going to be

572
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:04.759
maybe maybe somebody is going to be stupid enough to

573
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:06.839
send me some digpics on email, but I don't care.

574
00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:10.759
And I will answer to people who has real questions

575
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:13.000
and I will be there for them. So if you

576
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:16.680
like our music, hear it, enjoy it, try to share

577
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:20.000
with us, tell me what you think and we can

578
00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:22.880
talk because I will always be there. You can also

579
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:25.319
talk to me on Facebook, Instagram, you can chalk me

580
00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:27.720
on Blue Sky. You can because I left the Eggs

581
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:31.720
because they banned me, and uh yeah, I was a

582
00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:36.599
little bit trusty there, and well which other social media

583
00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:39.400
I have? I don't just we are on TikTok, but

584
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:41.680
I don't just TikTok because it's not.

585
00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:43.920
A lot of work. It's a lot of work.

586
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:46.839
I don't understand how people can consumeing that shit. I

587
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:49.799
don't like it. It's like too much real real surreal

588
00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:52.680
or real or real and it's like, yeah, no, that's

589
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:56.160
not my jam. I like reading. I like interpretations while

590
00:33:56.200 --> 00:34:04.400
people write. So yeah, Blue Sky, Facebook, Instagram, an email

591
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:08.519
that you can find everywhere on my website, in our website. Sorry,

592
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:12.920
and Shan Horror is going to be there behind writing

593
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:14.719
to you. There's not going to be a manager and

594
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:19.199
will never ever ever use AI to write back to people.

595
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:21.840
Oh I love it, I love it, And you know,

596
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:24.079
I'm going to be in a couple of weeks to

597
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:27.599
encourage a health fest, and I think your album and

598
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:31.440
your band should be the ones, especially with everything around

599
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:35.519
the world that is headlining health fest that would be appropriate.

600
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:37.760
That would be appropriate. But the thing is that I

601
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:39.920
think that people from Healthfest, even if they know who

602
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:43.719
I am, they are not going to invite us in

603
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:46.760
this edition or in future editions soon because we're not

604
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:51.840
a mainstream band. We are just an underground band from Switzerland.

605
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:54.400
Well we don't want to We don't want to get

606
00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:59.119
like really underground ise or underground from the underground. We

607
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:02.519
would like to get a little bit more no, so

608
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:05.360
we can do better shows and go play to play

609
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:06.960
everywhere where we can.

610
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:07.599
Ye.

611
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:12.519
So if we need something, it is your support. People

612
00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:15.119
of the world, hear my voice. We need your support.

613
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:18.639
There it is, and definitely they should support Youse have

614
00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:24.199
a great message, great story and absolute incredible music, and

615
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:27.320
so I thank you for bringing that to us because

616
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:29.440
we it's a time we need it most.

617
00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:32.119
And thanks for being on the Adventures of pipe Man.

618
00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:35.519
Well, thank you for inviting me the Adventure of pipe Man,

619
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:39.079
and thank you for hosting everything. This was a really

620
00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:42.239
nice discussion. I think this is the best interview I

621
00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:44.039
ever done because it's free.

622
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:44.760
I love it.

623
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:47.159
I love hearing that we were talking about stuff like

624
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:49.639
that before. So whenever I get a compliment from that

625
00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:52.280
like that from an artist that's the best compliment I

626
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:53.840
could ever get, So thank you.

627
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:55.360
That's the way. Thank you, Mane.

628
00:35:56.360 --> 00:36:01.159
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Platement on

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