July 25, 2025
PipemanRadio Interviews Signs of the Swarm To Rid Myself of Truth
Pipeman and Michael of Signs of the Swarm discuss newest single Scars Upon Scars and new album dropping 8/22 To Rid Myself of Truth.
We also discuss how Pipeman was at their shows at Hellfest, Resurrection Fest, and Inkcarceration. Pipeman even talked about he was at the crazy wall of death at Ink. We pay tribute to Ozzy Osbourne and share stories since he passed away shortly before the interview.
"I realized I scream things I'm too chickenshit to talk about," admits Signs of the Swarm vocalist David Simonich.
Speaking of, the band is also joined by Phil Bozeman (White Chapel) and Will Ramos (Lorna Shore) on "Iron Sacrament" and "Clouded Retinas," respectively.
The two songs show two sides of the band's lyrical coin. The former is a meaningless (i.e. no subtext) murderous romp, while the latter finds Simonich grappling with his degenerative macular eye disorder, Stargardt disease. The isolating condition causes one's central vision to deteriorate, with peripherals staying relatively untouched, making it hard to read and even recognize faces. It, and macular dystrophy at large, is the reason you'll never see green lights at a Signs of the Swarm show.
It's the kind of revelation that brings past Signs of the Swarm songs into a new level of clarity, such as "The Witch Beckons." Simonich also admits something he's never said aloud in "Scars Upon Scars," in which he reveals he's a recovering addict and fighting hard to rise above it. Again, it gives context to a song like "Malady" or others.
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This is pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man.
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W four c Y Radio, and I'm here with our
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next guest, who is badass. And I've been following all
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over the world to do this interview. Uh and he
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doesn't even know why yet, but they'll find out. But
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let's welcome to the show from Signs. So just swarm Michael.
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How are you, dude. I'm doing great. I'm feeling really good.
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We just got back from a month of festivals in
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Europe and we capped that off with an appearance at
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incarceration in Mansfield, Ohio. I'm feeling outstanding, but I'm a little,
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you know, a little bit of a bittersweet day. Obviously,
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you know I'm feeling good about the finish of the tour.
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But I'm sure by now you know Ozzy Osborne passed
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away today, So before anything happens, I do want to
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shout out the Godfather, the man who paved the way
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for everything that we know and love, and just express
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my undying gratitude for the foundation upon which I'm standing
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no doubt.
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Man like I kind of saw it come in and
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it's it's a sad day. What a way that he
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went off the way he wanted to with that last farewell.
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And and I've seen Auzsie every year pretty much since
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nineteen eighty some him with Randy Rhodes, and I have
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so many stories, as everybody else says, because he was
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one of the most amazing people, did not only come
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to metal, but music in general, and just he loved everybody.
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Yeah, you know, I could not have imagined a more
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deserved send off for anybody.
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So, oh, no doubt.
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And you know I always said years ago, I'm like,
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he loves this so much that you know, the minute
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he retires that that'll be the unfortunately where we're at,
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you know, but he lasted through so many years, influenced
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so many bands, and you know, if it weren't for him,
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you and I wouldn't be talking right now, probably.
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No, one hundred percent. So it certainly a sad day
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for metal. But you know, no one lives forever, which
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is a hard factor, lie.
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And bands like you will carry it on and carry
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on the legacy. And uh yeah, I was at hell
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Fest doing press of that Resurrection Fest, doing press day,
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and I just got back from ink doing press. Oh dude,
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that's why I said what I did, because you guys
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were so busy that we couldn't hook up.
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For an on site interview. And I kept bugging.
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I kept bugging Nikki at every festival, but I'm like,
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how about this time? Yeah, and but here we are,
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and let me tell you something, an incarceration. Your pit
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was insane.
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Thank you.
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Uh.
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That's what we aim for, man, you know, we Signs
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of the Storm has always been about just all gas
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note breaks. As high energy as we can be. We
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try to bring that into our performances and we hope
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that that energy sort of you know, transfers into the audience.
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And we got what we were asking for for sure
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that day. We know that the crowd was dealing with
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a lot of inclement weather. You know, there was there
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were lightning warnings, there were a lot of rainstorms. So
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we're just out just outstandingly grateful that we had the
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amount of people that we did, that they were interacting
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with one another in the manner that they were. That
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wall of death that Dave called for, that was one
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of the coolest things I've seen in a while. We
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get we get walls of death frequently, but the one
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that Ink delivered to us was was just top notch man,
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you know, Ohio always delivers.
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Well yeah, I mean I was at all three of
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those sets that I mentioned, and wild.
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I had to come back home for the best set
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of all in the best Wall of Death and like
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and it was just like the crowd brought it because
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you brought.
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It well, you know, I mean you obviously you saw
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I sit hell Fest and you saw some Resurrection Fest.
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Those were outstanding days. Those were great festivals. Were really
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grateful for how we were treated there. Our fans in
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Europe are wonderful. The staff at those festivals were on
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top of everything. But you know, despite all that, no
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one does it like.
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Home, right, And how wild is it to perform at
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Shawshank Prison, dude?
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Honestly that was that was the big thing for me
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going into the festival. And I was excited to play,
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you know obviously, and I'm grateful to get up on
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stage every time I do that. You know, but you
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get used to the routine. You're like, Okay, set up, changeover,
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I know what songs we're playing, I know how I'm
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gonna move on stage. You get used to that, right,
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there are usually no surprises involved when it comes to that,
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being able to visit a historic location like the Ohio
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State Reformatory, you know, the sight of one of the
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most iconic movies ever made. I was actually watching clips
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of the Shawshank Redemption earlier today. I thinking to myself, damn,
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I was there, Like I was there, you know. And
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it's pieces of history like that that are one of
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the most underrated parts of you know, getting to do
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what we do, seeing all these things, interacting with you know,
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all the history, all the cultures, not knowing how many
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people have, you know, all the souls that have passed
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through where you're standing right now, to be doing.
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It right totally, and you know, it's funny.
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I can totally relate to what you were saying earlier
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because my youngest daughter, before every festival I do, she's like, so, Dad,
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you excited to do this festival.
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I'm like, well, I really love it. It's a lot
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of fun.
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I don't know if i'd use the word excited when
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you do it every weekend, you know. But then the
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first time I did incarceration, I called her up and
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I'm like, oh man, I'm standing in the prison yard
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of Shawshank.
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Now I'm excited. Yeah.
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Yeah, And you know I've always said the same thing.
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I get home from a tour, and you know, I
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have friends asked me, if family asked me all the things,
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Oh how was it? What's you know helped? And I
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just say it was it was work. You know, this
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is my job, this is my career. After you know,
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you get used to doing all of this right, and
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it doesn't make it any less magical, but you start to,
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you know, at a certain point, you start to think, Okay,
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another day at the office, what time is set up?
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Change over? You know, just like I was saying earlier, Uh,
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the routine. It becomes a thing.
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I have to make it to catering before they close.
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Oh my god, that's that's so real. That's so real.
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That was the first thing on my mind after we
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got into it. I was like, Okay, dude, I am
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I am starving. I need to get something in meat
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right now. He's some coffee, I need some like eggs, bacon,
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and I need a cigarette. Like, for the love of God,
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just just let me get.
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My breakfast right totally.
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So I do want to ask you too, Okay, So
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I asked this of every everybody that ever does a
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Danny Wimmer festival, because I've been doing their festivals for
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fifteen years, all of them. How they treat artists in
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your opinion? Has Danny Wimmer treat artists in your opinion?
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Dude? Okay, so we've done Aftershock and we have done
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inknow and I can tell you from personal experience, like
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pulling no punches, it was awesome. You know what I mean.
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I'm not buttering anybody up. I'm not saying this to
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you know, get brownie points and nobody. Legitimately it was
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an outstanding experience. Three meals a day for starters, you know,
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getting fed, and on top of that, the food was good.
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It's not just oh hey, you know you're getting fed
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like that's nice. It was legitimately good food. We had
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a private spot, a green room. You know. You have
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something that was common with after Shock and with Ink
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you got the artist transport. You know, if you need
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to get somewhere, they have people who are there ready
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to go wheels up, get you where you need to
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go fast. I mean, it's just I don't like to
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use the term rock star lately, you know, just because
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I still see myself as as just a guy. You know,
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it's just a fourteen year old kid from you know, Granberry,
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Pennsylvania with a dream. But I felt like I was
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being treated like like a rock star and it felt
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really nice. I can't lie to you, man, you know
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it's nice. You know. You walk in, you have a
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place to change, you have a place to sit down.
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If you're tired, you just want to take some weight
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off your feet. There's a fridge full of cold drinks.
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You can hydrate you if you just want to soda
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or something.
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It's there.
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It's dude, big thank you to Danny Wimmer, thank you
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to Aftershock Bank, thank you to Ink. And I'm sincerely
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hoping that we get the opportunity to appear at more
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of Danny's festivals.
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Yeah, we need you add them all.
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Oh dude, yeah, no, we're starting to check them off, right.
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And I asked that question because in fifteen years of
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doing his festivals and god knows how many interviews, I
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don't even you know, thousands of interviews, I've never heard
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an artist say one negative thing about Danny Wimmer festival.
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And it just blows my mind in one sense. In
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the other sense, I know because I'm working those festivals
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and how it is.
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But you know, it's like that's where it's at. If
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you the artists can be treated where it's a stress free,
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comfortable experience, you're going to give us the best live
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performance ever. That's probably why we had such a great wall.
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Of death, honestly, dude, because we were able to, you know,
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get up on stage with the fire under our butts,
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trying to watch my mouth, you know, but.
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You could say whatever you want.
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Oh well, okay, fucking sweet. So we hit the fire
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under our ass. We were ready to go. We were
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we were there, you know what I mean. We were refreshed,
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we were well rested, we were not stressed out at all.
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The stage crew was excellent, and we were like, let's
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do this, you know, And it was the same experience
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of aftershock.
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Right because you know, you do a lot of different
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shows wherever it is, and sometimes there's issues that come
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up that the cloud doesn't know about, nobody knows about.
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But oh yeah, that affects you when you're getting in
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the zone. Because when you go on stage, you're getting
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in the zone. You don't want to think about any
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of that crap.
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No, yeah, no, it happens. Man, it happens to the
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best of us, you know, and the audience isn't always
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aware of it, unless unless the band has to come
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to a full stop. Most of the time, the crowd
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isn't gonna know if something's going wrong on stage, you know,
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but we're gonna know, and that does it does affect
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the live performance. Sometimes it really gets in your head
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and next thing you know, you realize, oh, man, I've
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been kind of standing still throughout this whole song. I
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haven't been headbanging. I haven't been doing my wind mills
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or my kicks. I haven't been yelling at the crowd
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because you've been too busy thinking about oh shit, you
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know what, my in ears go out again?
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You know?
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Is my bass acting weird? Like? Do I should I
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change my batteries? Like are these strings dead? Like? You know,
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it's stuff like that. A lot of it can be prepped,
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you know, uh, you know, prepped for and and mitigated.
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But the one of the number one rule of touring
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is shit happens, and ship will happen, and you have
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to learn to roll with the punches.
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Oh, no doubt about it. And you know it's funny too.
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You did get Lucky at Ink too, because why the
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band play interviewed that they're h they had all these
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uh tech problems during one part of the show, and
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we're we think it was a ghost because that vision
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is haunted for real.
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That was not what I had heard. I we got
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Lucky at Ink for something else. Entirely. It was funny
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you brought that up. As it turns out, during our
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entire set, we were on code yellow because of the weather,
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so they were they were they had their hand on
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the switch. They were like, if this lightning gets closer,
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we got to pull the plug. And we're really lucky
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that it didn't happen. But we didn't know that until
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after we'd gotten off stage, Like and it would have sucked.
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