PipemanRadio Interviews Swaggermouth

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I'm here with our next guests. Who

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yam. They have some badass new
music and even part of the new video

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brought me back to my sunset strip
eighties days. So that was really cool,

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brought some good feelings there. So
let's let's let it roll with us.

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Swaggermouth, How are you? I'm
good? How you doing man?

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Hello, I am doing phenomenal.
Just got back from your neck at Woods

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like one o'clock in the morning last
night because I was doing coverage for Punk

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Rock Bowling. Oh I heard that
was pretty awesome. Oh yeah, it's

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definitely. You know, I go
on tour and I do a bunch of

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festivals all over the US, UK, Europe. That's one of my favorite

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festivals as far as just how they
do things because it's so different, because

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they like invade and take over downtown
Vegas and it's not just you're going to

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a festival, but it's you know, you got all the club shows and

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the bowling, and they used to
have a poker tournament, and it's just

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and there's stages everywhere and and things
going on everywhere. So it's just kind

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of like a whole thing opposed to
just a music festival. Sounds like a

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wonderful carnival exactly. Yeah. Well, you know it's funny about that is

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I was interviewing Devo and he basically
said, uh, you know about people

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and that the punks take over and
they they make downtown Vegas look more normal,

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more normal. You know, it's
like the punks aren't the outcast in

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downtown Las Vegas. I'm Freemont,
I'm free. So you guys, basically,

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you know, this is where this
new music is all kind of born

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from Vegas. You guys went to
Vegas and you kind of settled in and

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then we had this you know,
crap called a lockdown, and that was

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not fun for us the listeners or
us the artists. But I do think

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what we're going to talk about today
is a product of that, because I

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also feel that I love artists.
They you know, got a chance to

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jump off the hamster wheel during that
lockdown and go back to being creative again.

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I agree, we actually locked down. Swaggermouth was interesting. It's it's

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me Jason Ebbs, my wife Jania
Ebbs, and then Chris Slade from ac

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DC is on the drums, and
we had had a band prior to that

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called Ecotonic and we were getting ready
to recorder record and we were working on

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the new stuff, our second record, and we were about five songs in

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and then ac DC called him back
to join for the tour in twenty fifteen,

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and we're like, shit, what
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I sat on this stuff for a
second, and then COVID hit, which

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gave us three years of being locked
down in the studio because we have a

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studio in the house and everything,
and that led me to revisit this stuff

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and go, you know what,
I should really finish this. So and

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we were doing podcasts once a week
through that too, playing our original stuff

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and with very good response. Yeah. So, but it basically it sparked

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us to go ahead and finish this
record, and then I put together a

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live band around it, and we
got to deal with Rock Avenue Records USA.

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And and you've seen the first videos. So that's that's the product of

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our passion. I love it.
And you know what I think about when

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you're saying that is another reason,
you know of what I was saying before.

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You know, it used to be
artists they would make an album,

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but then there would be like a
few different times that they would just redo

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it because it was like, oh, this isn't what we want. And

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nowadays it's like you have to pump
it out, pump it out. And

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it sounds to me like this album
is that same an area where I mean,

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you had an original vision, but
then that vision evolved and so you

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could just make it better and better, and you had the time to make

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it better and better. Yeah,
you know what, it's It's true.

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It's funny though, because we did
the whole record, which is called Never

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Shut Up, and I had all
the songs done, and I'm like,

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man, this record feels like it's
missing something. So I went back and

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looked at tracks that I hadn't finished, and I opened up this one and

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I was like, holy shit,
Like it hit me like a steamroller.

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And it existed for a long time
without lyrics to it, and then lyrics

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just kind of happened. And once
once we started laying down the stuff,

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I'm like, oh my god,
I think this is the this is the

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icing, this is the single we
were looking for, you know. Nice

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see, so you know, if
you're going to take a positive there it

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is right there. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes we like to let, you

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know, creative ideas marinate a bit
because they're very intentional. It's not just

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like we're throwing together slapping together something. It means something to us. It

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truly is a work of art.
Each song is a work of art to

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us, and we put our hearts
into it, so we want it to

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be the best it can be,
and that takes time absolutely. And sometimes

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listen, any type of creative person, any type of artists, sometimes they

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hear their product after it's done and
they're like and there, like you said,

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there's something missing or there's something that
needs to be fine tuned or changed,

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you know, And that's any form
of art. Like my dad he

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used to make paintings and then one
day it was a different painting right right,

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you know, and nothing from the
previous painting even was there, but

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he just transformed it because the vision
kind of changed once he could see it.

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Yeah, And it's interesting in any
creativity, you reach a point where

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you got to go, Okay,
enough's enough, you know. Yeah,

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And because you know it's one thing
to be it's I'm looking forward to doing

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the next record because you know,
we bought up since then, I record

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the majority of that in the other
home studio. We've since bought a house

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and it's called Dragon Castle Studios,
and we bought it from Imagine Dragons.

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It's their band house where they recorded
their hit records and stuff. And I

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think the actually did a record here
too. So I can't wait to set

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up and start from scratch here like
we finished. I finished mixing it here

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and mastered it here. But I
can't wait to start with the new band

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and just you know, start working
on all the new stuff we already have.

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We've already started what five new songs
for the next record. It's so

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there is such a creative energy in
this house that we are tapping into.

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For sure. Yep. I love
that. Yeah, it's wonderful. It's

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it's almost like maybe the that the
lack of better term, the ghosts of

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those other bands are still there helping
you out. Well, you know what

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It's funny you say that, because
my wife found this the day after it

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went on the market, and you
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inside a beautiful home in this area. And we're like, okay, let's

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go see it. And we came
in and they had all their accolades and

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trophies and awards and MTV stuff all
over the place, and we're just looking

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at this like, Wow, what
a cool fine. We had no idea

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you know that it was. We
imagined dragons until we walked saw it,

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of course, But I mean beforehand
it was just listed. It was just

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listed as and we had home with
a professional studio, and I went,

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okay, we got to go see
this, and we had and they had

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offers from other people that wanted to
tear everything out because you know, it

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absorbed a lot of the house.
It's a totally pro floated floor with the

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control room and everything, and there
were people that wanted to tear everything out.

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So I wrote him a letter and
said, hey man, I'm Jason

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Ebbs. I played with Peter Cris
and my wife Janey. I played with

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Joe Cocker. And I'm not telling
you this for any other reason other than

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to say, we wanted to make
use of this hallowed ground and continue the

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tradition, and they love that,
so they didn't they stop looking and we

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just worked on it and made it
happen. Man, that's amazing. And

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then I also kind of dig with
the video, like you shot that at

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multiple different locations. Correct, that
is way cool because thank you. You

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watch it and you're you're feeling these
different vibes as you go through the video.

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Well, the cool thing is that
the one outside one where you get

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the drone shots from above or we're
playing on a wheel of misfortune. Yeah,

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we caught the tail end of that. Man, it's being leveled and

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it's being place by six hundred and
fifty homes. So we caught We did

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like a commando shoot on it,
and we got the last glimpse of it.

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And I'm really happy we got to
im mortalize that because you know that

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that was a big part of Vegas
for a long time. And then the

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other location was at rock Stars of
Tomorrow, which is at UH they just

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opened up here in Summerland. And
we believe in in passing things on and

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I think that the kids need to
carry the torch for rock and roll,

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you know. Yeah, so that's
why we featured them in there. And

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then the last location we did here
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Yeah, they reached the control room
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Yeah. You know what reminded me
of there was that was that was the

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part that reminded me of the old
eighty sunset strip days. It kind of

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made me flash back to hanging out
at the Rainbow. Yeah, I can

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see that. That was total vibe
I got during that part. I'm like,

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oh, wow, that's pretty cool. Well, you know that's cool,

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yeah, because we had a well, let me see, we actually

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had we had the bass player from
Lizzie Borden, he was one of the

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guys in there, and we had
a bunch of cameo celebrity people that you

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know, we put. We figured
we Chris in the house because that was

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our first party. Uh, Chris
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and shoot a video party scene here. So it was very organic. It

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wasn't, you know, necessarily planned
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that we wanted to capture and then
everyone just had a good time and the

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camera roll and that bottle of Champagne
that we opened was one of the two

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that they left us in the fridge
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wow, ceremonious, you know,
ceremonial, ceremonial ceremoniosity. Oh man,

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cool. Yeah. I think it's
kind of like the universe just sent all

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these things your way in a row, and that leads to, uh,

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you know, dropping the album in
late July. Yep. Yeah, so

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we're looking late July, possibly August
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Sturgis this year. Wow, that's
cool. So we're playing the seventh and

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eighth at Kickstands and then working on
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so where we can hang out with
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Love it and so how to how
does everybody connect with you guys on

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the web? Socials pre order or
pre save the new album, check out

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all your music, all that good
stuff. Yeah, you can go to

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swagermouth dot com. We're on Instagram
at Swagermouth. Facebook is Swagermouth. I

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don't I don't do the X or
the TikTok at the moment, but someone

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else in the band might be doing
that or you can, you know,

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hit up Jason Ebbs e Bs and
uh yeah, we'll keep you posted on

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what's going on and everything. And
we should give a shout out to our

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bandmates because they're wonderful guys. We're
like a family now. Yeah, they're

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cool. Borgie on keyboards, Joseph
Nill on bass, and Billy Kessner on

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drums and JANEA. Ebbs on vocals
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production and stuff. So so we're
very blessed. Well, they're a cool

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situation. I think we're very bret
and blessed. We're very breast. I

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can't speak right, like I just
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and I was the only one with
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much Vegas. I haven't slept.
I haven't slept in like four days.

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You know. What's so funny?
Where do you live right now? I

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live in South Florida? Oh wow, okay, yeah, a long way

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from home. I like South Florida, so we Uh, when you visit

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Vegas, man, it's totally different
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live here and you act like that, you die early. So you know,

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I could never live there. Kudos
to you, because I would be.

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It was enough for me to stay
away from the crap table to go

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do my interviews. Okay, I
don't gamble. I don't really gamble,

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and you know, when I used
to come out here, it was a

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four day binge. But uh,
that I live here, I go out

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selectively. And you know, I'm
pretty busy with the studio and everything here,

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so you know, working on some
clients and not working on any stuff.

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But yeah, I wouldn't have survived
much longer there. But you know

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how it is. You got the
whole day festival and then they have the

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club shows afterwards, so then you
get back to the hotel at three and

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then if you don't do anything else, and then for me, I have

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to go and start editing, you
know, the interviews for my engineer to

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do the real edit and get everything
prepared and do all that stuff. And

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then next thing, you know,
okay, it's time to go back to

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the festival and do some more interviews. Yeah, I give, but you

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know it's fun and that's what your
your music is fun. Well, thank

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you. I watched that video and
that just that just makes me think in

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a time where not many things are
fun nowadays, and all the bullshit going

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on around the world, I can
escape in your music and have fun.

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Well, thank you man. That's
you know, the reason we called the

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record Never Shut Up is because,
man, society's pretty fucked up right now,

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and we're all walking around on pins
and needles, afraid to say things.

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You know, you can't say he
or her, you can't say.

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There's so many different things that that
that we have to modify now. So

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as Americans, we painted ourselves into
a corner. So the way I look

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at it, we you know,
we got to hold onto our ability of

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free speech, you know, be
respectful. Of course, you know I'm

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not into you know, not at
not at other people's costs. But that's

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one thing that's under attack right now. And no matter what side you're on,

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it's scary. So oh that that's
my thing. I always say,

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it doesn't matter what side, Like
I always say, they're all on the

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same side, and it ain't mine. Okay, like this, like we

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should all be on the same side. But we're falling for the oldest trick

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in the book. And it's just
like you can't even say hello to somebody

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and without them say well, what
do you mean by that? That's not

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it's scary scary, so hopefully we
can normalize it. You know, we're

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not too preachy. But but if
you look at our subject matter on the

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rest of the record, we cover
a lot of these different things, not

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necessarily even giving a direction on it, just making people think. So that's

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the concept of what we're bet also
have fun, yeah, same time.

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But yeah, yeah, well you
know we can see that from our first

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single, so there you go.
Yeah, so let's let's just let it

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roll, let it I love it. Well, you guys rock. Thanks

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for giving us great music, and
thanks for being on the Avengers of Pipe

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Man. Oh you know what,
thanks so much for having us. We

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look forward to coming back and doing
a video version and uh, maybe you

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can meet the band at that time
too, anytime. Brother, awesome man,

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Thank you so much. It was
great meeting you and talking with you.

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Same here and maybe I'll see you
at a show somewhere and we can

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do that in sounds good. All
right, you guys keep rocking and rolling.

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All right, let it roll bye
for now. Thank you for listening

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