Sept. 18, 2024

PipemanRadio Interviews Swingin' Utters About Punk in the Park & Riotfest

PipemanRadio talks to Darius of Swingin' Utters About performing at Punk in the Park & Riotfest.. We also discussed the difference of being a punk rock band as adults with families opposed to being a teenager  We discussed the difference between...

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PipemanRadio talks to Darius of Swingin' Utters About performing at Punk in the Park & Riotfest.. We also discussed the difference of being a punk rock band as adults with families opposed to being a teenager We discussed the difference between punk and pop punk. And we talked about new music they have been working on for a long time.
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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe

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Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm very say

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of our next guest, kind of bumm because I missed

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her set at punkin Park this last weekend to to

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other things going on in life. But I will catch

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them this coming Sunday at Riot Best and I'm very

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excited about that. So let's welcome to the show. Darius

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from Swinging Others.

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How are you good? How are you?

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I'm doing good? You know, listen, I am so happy

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that as an old school punk rocker, that punk rock

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is still alive and well, and probably even more so

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than back in the eighties.

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Yeah maybe, actually you know eighties. Yeah, it's I just

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I just kind of realized that. Honestly, only a few

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years ago. That it's kind of old people music nowadays.

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I know, isn't it funny?

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Right? Yeah? Yeah, it is kind of funny. I got kids,

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I mean they're grown men now, but they're in their

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mid twenties, and I remember when they were teenagers telling

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me like, nobody's in bands anymore, that's not a thing.

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Wow wow really yeah.

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You know, and what's interesting, Like my friend Joe from

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the Vandals one time we had an interview where he

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knew I wouldn't ask the question, but everybody asked him,

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so when are you guys coming out with new music?

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And you know, he knew I wouldn't answer it, so

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he asked it. So he brought up during an interview

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because he said, like, who wants to hear a bunch

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of fifty year olds write in punk rock music?

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Yeah? Right, so funny, right, But it's funny because then

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we're all fifty year olds singing about being teenagers.

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So I know, right, exactly exactly, And you know, it

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is kind of there's truth and there's not truth. The

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truth is, yeah, you don't have that same angst as

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you did as a teenager, and you don't hate the

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world as much as you did when you're a teenager.

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Yeah, there's different bitterness though, and there's different types of anger.

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So I don't exactly.

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I don't think that fear it ever goes away, really,

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I mean, unless it has changed that much. But I mean,

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I don't know. We still we still write a lot

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of punk rock songs.

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Right right, Well that brings me to the other thing. Okay,

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So a lot of punk rock bands would write about

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shit they were angry about, about political things, right, And

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it's almost like you could write the same songs in

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twenty twenty four as in the eighties, just change the names,

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that's all.

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Oh for sure, even I would almost say more so

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now yeah, yeah, it's similar, like, yeah, for sure.

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It just blows my mind in twenty twenty four, Like

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you said, some of these issues are worse instead.

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be a political punk man until the end of time.

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There's always going to be something that is, you know,

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totally totally that you don't agree with, you know.

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So tell us what the difference has been for you

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and you guys through all these years, and how you

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as a band are different from those older times.

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I think the main difference is that really the main difference.

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It started in the really the late nineties when we

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started having kids. Yeah, and we started we didn't do

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three month long tours anymore. I mean, we still did,

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you know, month long tours, but that slowed down considerably.

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There was a period of like seven or eight years

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in the mid in the like two thousand I don't

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even I lost track, I don't know, and like two

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thousand and three to ten or something where we didn't

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do any we didn't go internationally, and we didn't do

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any long US tours. We just did kind of long

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weekends and flew out and stuff. Yeah, because of the

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kid thing and the whole adulting thing and getting jobs

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and careers, and it's it makes it it's really hard

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to wrangle grown ass men together, even just to practice

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when you're younger.

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I in the nineties when we were touring heavily, I

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delivered pizza for four years. So when I come home,

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I deliver pizzas and then we go on tour, and

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I'd usually be on tour. But I mean that's the

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main thing. And I mean in twenty nineteen, I think

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I started my own plumbing contracting business. So it's even

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less touring. Yeah, And I mean we've been trying to

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write a record for a few years now. And it's

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not a lack of songs we have. We have enough

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songs for three records probably, but it's literally getting together

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to practice, yeah, just so hard.

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It's funny you say that too, because when you were saying,

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I'm think about yeah, like it'd be easy to wrangle

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around your band members to go play a gig, yeah,

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but to practice. That's a great point because when we

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have time.

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Yeah, and we're kind of all the place. I mean,

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I'm in Santa Cruz, which is about an hour or

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so south of San Francisco. Our drummer is in Sebastopol,

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which is about an hour north of San Francisco. And

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our singer just moved to Eureka last year and that

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is six hours wow of San Francisco. So we're kind

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of all over the place. And I know there's a

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way to do it, and there's a way to make

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it happen, but it's just harder when you get older.

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It just it just is. I mean, yes, fired, I guess,

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but we're not yet. But we're still manging to you know,

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make it and play these festivals, and it's we're still

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doing stuff, but it's just a little harder to be

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as active as we'd all like to be.

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Yeah. Absolutely, So let's talk about the festivals. It's last weekend.

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You played punkin and Park Orlando, which you know, my

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main location for my studios is in South Florida.

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Oh nice.

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I was supposed to take the drive up there to Orlando,

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but things happened in life that deterred me. And I'm

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very bummed that I missed your set there. But so

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I want to hear about the set at Punk in

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the Park and how it was.

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It was good, it was let's see, we flew in

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and it was you know, Florida. It was ninety degrees

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and seventy four percent humidity, and.

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Is that all?

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I know, that's probably not even that bad, but you know,

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it's we're kind of privileged to be in this situation

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where we can actually fly out and play these festivals

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and they're they're always fun and good, and the crowd

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was great and it was a good time. And we

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see our friends, I mean, our friends are like running

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the festival. Because we've been a rund long, we kind

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of know everybody. Yeah, and then all these bands that

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you all know, the Bronx and the Dwarves and all

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these people are people we've known for years, so it's

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just kind of it's kind of hanging out with your

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old friends and getting to jump on the stage for

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a half hour. And it was great. It was super fun.

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Yeah, that's the best part though, right Like now, instead

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of touring being like this, some like dem it as

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a drudgery after a while, because you know, it's rough

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on the road.

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It is.

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Yeah, so it's kind of cool to play like these

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festivals and not have all that stress and just have

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fing on stage.

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Now we're actually doing a weird little run of festivals.

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We just got the offers and I was like, screw it.

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It's easy enough. It's basically a long weekend. We did

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Orlando this last weekend. This coming weekend we're flying to

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Chicago to do riot Fest, and then two weeks after

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that we're going to do the Sam Pedro thing for

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the No Effect shows. Nice drub like.

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So so that's cool because I'll be at riot Fest

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and I'll be able to catch your set there nice

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and then I'm doing the final, the final, final No

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Effects show.

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The last show the Sunday or whatever.

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Yeah, the last one. Yeah, so that's be kind of

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cool and like, I'm I'm gonna miss Punk in Drublic.

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It's one of my favorite festivals to do.

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Are they I mean, I don't even know are they

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actually ending the festival?

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I don't know.

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I haven't really gotten into.

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It, but check this out. I saw some news recently.

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It blew my mind that they might bring back Warp

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Tour in twenty twenty five.

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Wow. I mean imagine that shocked, But that is kind

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of that's kind of crazy, right we did We did

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the first and I think the third Warp Tour. Wow,

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million years ago. That's when it was like a real

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That's when it was like a punk rock tour.

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Yeah.

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I got a little bit less punk in the in

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the later later Warp Tour dates, but those are the times, man,

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that was great.

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Well, you know what's funny you say about that, because

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like one time I was interviewing not a couple of

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years ago, Waddie from The Exploited Yeah, and I got

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him all riled up because at the end to the interview,

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and the interview was right before going on stage, and

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I knew what I was doing. I was doing on purpose.

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I'm like, no, wadie, what do you think of pop punk?

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Oh boy?

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Oh went on the stage, it went off of the

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crowd like it was so funny.

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That's awesome, But it is.

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Like, I don't know, it's funny to me, Like I

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think they should change that genre name because it's kind

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of like jumbo shrimp.

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Yeah it's not it's yeah, I know, you mean, it's

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I don't know. I don't even know how or why

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some of those bands are considered punk rock. And I'm

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not gonna name names, but I don't even not agree,

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and it's not even talking shit about them. It's just

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that they're there's nothing punk rock about.

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It me too. And there's nothing punk rock about pop.

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You no, because it's it's a different genre exactly. I

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don't know.

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You know. The whole idea when I was a teenager

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was if you were getting played on the radio, I

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didn't want to listen to your music, right right, you know.

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And so it's good now that there's stations that do

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play it, but they're not pop stations and it shouldn't

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be like the main I don't know. That's just me

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maybe on that, but it shouldn't be mainstream.

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A lot of it. It's it would change from being

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a lot about the attitude as well as the music

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to just being the music. In other words, like if

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it's fast and it has kind of distorted guitars playing

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bar chords, then it's punk rock. Yeah, that's what it became.

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more than just a MUTI.

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it's it's it's it's a lot, it's it's like a philosophy.

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Yeah, exactly. So what your kids think of punk rock?

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because they were raised by punk rockers. I mean there

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they're I mean, they're into it. My younger one is

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especially just totally into it. He's i mean, he's not

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even that young as twenty three, but he's pretty into it.

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it all. He doesn't sit around listening to punk rock.

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they both have really very taste in music like their

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parents do, and they're both just total music snobs basically, right,

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because we are too.

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So it that way. My kids have gone been going

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to shows and festivals since I can remember, Like, yeah,

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and I put my grandson in.

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His first man that's so good.

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Yeah, like you got past the torch type of thing.

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with Slipknot, and it was at Giant Stadium, and you know,

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we're sitting out there when slip Knot's going to be

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coming on. There's barely anybody there yet we're right up

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front in the middle. And I kind of clued them

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in on what was going to happen, and I said, like, listen,

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people are gonna shove you around. Don't get pissed, Okay,

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just go with it. It's not about going in and

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hurting the Maimon people. It's just about getting out your

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anks in a healthy way and having fun and dancing

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and all that. And so when it first started, I

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could see on his face him getting pissed, and I

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like tak my hand. I was like, chill, out, chill out.

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and I was like, the baton has been passed, yep, exactly,

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and then ever since he's been doing it ever since.

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That's great. Yeah, I don't think I don't know if

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they've really I haven't thrown my kids in the pit,

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and it's not happening now because I'm too damn old.

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But but I mean, you know, their first shows were

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when they were babies, so right, that's that's something I guess.

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kids to be able to experience that, especially that I

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think it's not the same nowadays as it was when

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we were kids, you know, like it was a thing

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the same type of thing as we experienced.

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the original original punk scene, you know, and I was

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a long hair so it was kind of scary being

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a long hair in those punk rock shows.

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So riot Fests have you ever? I don't even know.

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Have you played riots Fest before? Yeah?

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the year the Misfits played for the first time, so

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that was cool. Oh yeah, it was a good one.

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That was a good one, for sure. It's gonna be

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fun this year. It's funny because they were going to

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move it to somewhere else for years people have been

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complaining around that area and they wind it gone, but

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the town of Chicago knew how much they needed and

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how much they wanted. So now they brought it back

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to Douglas Park.

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venues again.

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stay at Douglas Park, but there was so much going

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on that they got forced out of it. But something

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like that. I don't know the whole story. But then

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I guess the town of Chicago realized how much it

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would affect them negatively and invite them to come back

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right right, And I don't think they ever wanted to

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leave Douglas Park. It is a kind of cool venue

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for for the festival, and I dig what's going to

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be going on this year because there's a lot of

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new stuff going on, you know, and with no Effects

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playing every night, and then the first Slayer show in

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five years, Like it's it's definitely gonna be insane and

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a great time and you're on on the best day Sunday. Yeah,

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so you know there it is anything else you want

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to tell the listeners about that we haven't covered that

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they should know about you guys, that's coming up.

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You know, other than these little shows here and there.

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Nothing besides we're we're still just we're just we're just

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trying to write for a record and we'll be we'll

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hopefully be in the studio within the next year. It's

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been way too long, but that's that's kind of what

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we're concentrating on right now.

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I love it.

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Just wanting to get more releases out there.

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I can't wait. Tell everybody how they can connect to

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you guys on socials, on the web, but most importantly

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by your merch because you have cools merch and that's

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the only way bands make money nowadays.

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Absolutely, that's the truth. Yeah, we're uh, you know, swing

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utters dot com. We're really bad at updating, but we're

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all over Facebook and Instagram and swinging Utters Official or

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swing Utters on Facebook.

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Yeah yeah, and they can look for the swinging Utters

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merch store there's a whole merch store that's cool and

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they can check everything else out on Fat Wreck and

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fat Wreck Records and so you guys rock. I'm sorry

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I missed you at punkin the Park. I wanted to

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be there, but I'm super excited about being there for

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your show Sunday at riot Fest.

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Yeah. Man, it'll be a blessed absolutely.

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Thanks a lot for you know, playing all these years,

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Like at this point you don't even have to play anymore.

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It's for fun, so I'm glad you're still having fun

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and giving us some fun too. So thanks a lot,

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and thank you for being on the Adventures of pipe Man.

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Yeah, thanks for having me. Thank you for listening to

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