Oct. 12, 2024

PipemanRadio Interviews Taproot at Aftershock 2024

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Pipeman has a fun conversation with the guys from Taproot at Aftershock 2024 on The Pipeman Radio Tour.

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Yeah you're here. Yeah?

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Is Phill the bass player for Taproo and sure the

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drummer of Tapru.

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Nice here after Shock? How many times have you played

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After Shock?

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Ever? This our first? Yeah, we we took a long hiatus.

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I'm not sure when after Shock started, but when we

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took our hiatus about twenty thirteen, that's sort of like

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our cut type music. It wasn't like exactly the height

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of it, right tail end of what that what we were doing.

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And then we took a long break and now it's

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kind of on this upswing again. So yeah, we'll be

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able to do it like before the Danny Wimmer festivals

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this year Nice, which has been awesome.

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Yeah, it's been so cool.

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We did Rockville, So Sonic Temple, Louder than Life and

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After Shock and this is so this is the.

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Last one of the year that we're doing. Which one

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do you like best? Dude?

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They were all great, right, They're all run fantastically, but

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they all have their own little bit of personality.

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And and I like to hear that part because I

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always ask the artists about how they're treated at festival

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because some festivals are shit shows, yes, and then there's

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a Danny Wimmer festival. Yeah, And all I ever hear

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is how they treat the artists like, you know, great

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and it makes it easy because it's really tough to

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come into a festival load in, try to get the

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sound right and everything, and if you have all these

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tech issues, like you don't need that stress before your

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performing from why hear you don't have that with a

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Danny Wimmer festivalea.

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I mean, it's as good as you can get with

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as many bands as they bring in and with many

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people and limited parking, Like we did a Louted Than

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Life recently and it you know, they had a crazy

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storm they had to cancel Friday. I was there, yeah, right,

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we played Sunday and the weather was fine on our day,

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but there's still a lot of money spots, not a

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lot of parking.

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And they still made it work. You know, we're still

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able to get in. We loaded in. They treat us great.

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Even though it was a bit.

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Stressful because we were on a pretty short time crunch.

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We made it work. It's fantastic. I love it. Yeah.

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So I left Florida to avoid that hurricane and it

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hit Louisville. Would figure, right, it would figure like I'm

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going to Louisville and I got hit by a hurricane

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and miss Slayer.

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Yeah, right, that's right, that's right. So heard they killed

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it last night though.

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Oh yeah, I saw them at riot Fest two because

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I covered that one. But yeah, they killed it like

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Tom was having so much fun.

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That's the key.

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Like, Okay, So the way I look at it is

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he was burnt and that five years of doing nothing,

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he's now got the passion again. And I think you

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guys been on a long hias. Do you think that

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happened with you. It's like after a while, you like

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you get this resurgence of creativity.

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Well it's yeah, I mean, you get away from it

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so long when you're doing it again as long as

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it's been, and just being away from it and then

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with this renewed appreciation for what we did, it's just

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been it's been awesome.

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I didn't expect it. I didn't know how was going on.

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Our manager Tom was talking me about it and he

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was like, dude, this is the time you guys had.

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You guys are timing this perfectly, and it just happened

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to work out when Steve was doing with his new

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record Scissors, so it just worked out great.

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But it's been awesome. Yeah, it's been fun too.

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We have a relatively new guitar player who joined us

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last year when we kind of reunited and started doing

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a lot of these things, and he brings a whole

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new level of energy to it. He was somebody that

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grew up with a lot of our music, so he

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was kind of a fan and he was in another

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band that we all really respected, and so to kind

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of have him join us, it really gives us renew

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energy and plus the fact that you've been doing this

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now after starting twenty five years ago. For me, I

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always tell people it feels like I'm going back in

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a time capsule when I'm playing these songs that we

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were first playing twenty five years ago. It reminds me

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of those videos that you see if people when they're

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saying a nursing home or something, or maybe they're have

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Alzheimer's and there they sit there and they're pretty silent,

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but then you play a piece of music from their

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childhood or certain and they kind of light up and

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they get this new energy. Like there's something about when

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you hear those songs when you first were attracted to music,

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Like it seems like for most people to around eighth

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or ninth grade, Like, yeah, a lot of that whatever

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music you heard at that time probably is some of

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your favorite bands or some of your favorite music.

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Right for me, it was Metallic.

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I heard Injustice for All and eighty eighty nine, and

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so that's still one of my favorite bands. So like

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when you get transported back, that's kind of like you

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feel like a kid again. Yeah, which is really fun.

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So that's part of what at least I'm feeling, and

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I think we're all feeling to some degree too.

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See that's freaking great.

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I love that because when you're young doing it, you

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have all this like you're excited about it and like

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you have all this passion and then after a while,

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the business can get to you if you let it,

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you know. And then when you get this resurgence, I

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think you have a different attitude about it too, Like

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basically you're more about having fun than chasing the dream,

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so to speak.

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Exactly, Like we're not doing it you most of us

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have jobs.

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I've got kids.

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I don't want to be touring, but I love doing

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this weekend warrior stuff here and there, being able to

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do it and kind of live that side of it

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but still.

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Having my home life.

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Yeah, I can never imagine. When we stopped, I didn't

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expect to ever be back. I told Steve to find

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a new basis if you ever go out, I was

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kind of done. And then with enough time and then

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coming back out and then seeing how you know, a

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lot of same bases plus new faces, it's really renewed.

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My passion for it and my appreciation for what we do.

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And again it's I'm not out there trying to make

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you know, trying to make it real big.

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You know.

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I don't want to be in a giant band anyway,

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you know. I like what I've got. I like the

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crowds we play too, and it's a lot less pressure

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We just go out there and play.

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It's not critical for my livelihood.

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That's the other piece, you know, when at the tail

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end of our you know, our first big run of

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like you know, fifteen years, that's the only thing I did.

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So when we weren't making money, I could barely make

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ends meet. Yeah, you know, we've living on couches for

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a while, that kind of thing. So now it's just

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extra fun, extra money. It's fine, and it's really not

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about the money. It's helpful. We got to make money

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to make it work. I don't want to lose money

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doing this. But thankfully with the music industry is at

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a point where we're able to make it work. And

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you know, we we play it smart. You know, we

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drive our own vehicles around home. We're doing some big

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old bus. We're not spending a lot of money, but

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we make it work.

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It's awesome.

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I love it because, like, to me, that's the dream life, right,

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They're what you're describing, because what people think is the

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dream life and sometimes like a fucking nightmare, Like and

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you know you've lived it, and it's like people look

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at you and they all they see is what they see.

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They don't see all the other bull that goes around it.

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So when you're just having fun and doing it because

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of the passion of music, not only do you feel better,

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but we can tell in the audience. I can look

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up at bands and I can tell like, yeah, they're

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not into.

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This right now, you know, or it's like wow.

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Like while I was looking at Tom, I'm like, Wow,

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he's having the fucking best time.

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Like he's a kid again, you know.

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So I've talked to fans and they've said that about us, like,

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you guys look like you're having fun up there. You

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guys look like you're having a really good time. I

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love having Jared back in the band, because Jared hasn't

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been in the band since two thousand and eight. Wow,

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So he came back out for this. We played a

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show here and there, you know, some hometown stuff. But

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for him to be playing consistent with us again, it's

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such a different such a good energy that we had

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at the beginning. And our other drummers were great too,

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but there's just something about Jared. He's the original member,

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you know, something about.

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That with him, and he's smiling the whole time down

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the interview, so that says a lot, you know, because

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I mean, if you're smiling during the interview, you're having fun.

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And you know what's funny. There's something about I had.

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I was talking about original members and why that is

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something to some people I had somebody was saying, oh,

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that's great to have you back or whatever. I said, well, yeah,

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but you know the other drummers were great too, So

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what is it? And they said, okay, well, who are

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some of your favorite drummers? And I said, oh, Neil

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Pierre from Rush and Carter Beaufort from Dave Matthew's band.

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And they said okay. So and they know I'm a

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big Deftones fan. So they said, if you were going

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to go watch the Deftones is there, would you want

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to see any of those drummers play the drums other

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than Abe Cunningham, the original drummer. And I said, no,

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I wouldn't.

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I'd want to see Abe. So that's what it is.

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And there's I can't put my finger on why we

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want to see the original members, but I think part

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of it is we, you know, music is such an

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important part of our lives, that part of we we

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liked the idea that, oh cool like those people, you know,

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Phil and I were friends first. We met an orientation

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at college nice and there's something about that energy that's there, right,

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Like when you see a man that you love on

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stage having a good time together, it makes.

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You feel good. And I don't know what that is.

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Maybe it's just because we humans like to see, like,

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oh cool, after all these years, there's humans that are

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interfacing and.

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Liking what they do, and that makes me feel good.

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And it's familiar, right as familiar and nostalgic. Like you

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were talking about Metallica, we had Slayer here. I went

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to their first shows ever. So to me, if Dave

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Lombardo's not drumming, is it Slayer, that it's and that

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might not go over well over the air, but I

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mean that's my nostalgia hanging out with them outside the

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country club, the Whiskey, the Troubadour and it was Jeff, Carrie,

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Tom and Dave. That to me was Slay for the

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same reason you're saying, not that Boss Staff's not a

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great drummer. Yeah, it's just even me Maiden's gonna be playing.

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Yeah.

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I love Bruce, but I'm team Diano because Killers is

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my favorite fucking album.

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Okay, I've made it.

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I get what you're saying because from my point of view,

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I can totally see it. Even with Metallica, I saw

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him with Dave Mustaine, So I'm still on the I

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should have.

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Kept Dave in the bank for you.

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Like alcohol I've always said to myself because I was

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in that whole scene, I'm like alcoholic because that's what

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we called them. Kicked Dave out because he was an alcoholic.

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That makes sense, Like how bad of a rager was

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he to get kicked out of alcoholic for drinking?

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You know?

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But you know it's like and then when you're young too,

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you have these experiences like Mustaine came out to me

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after a show and like starts talking to me. So

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that's what you remember that fucking LA somewhere to Woodstock

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or something something like that.

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Oh yeah, that's right.

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So funny. I've told this story a lot, but since

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you brought up like about where it was and what happened, I.

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Think I was like fifteen they play.

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I'm like, oh my god, because there was nothing like

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that at the time. Like the heaviest shit in LA

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was Motley Crue, to be honest, and you know, so

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he comes out sits at the bar. I'm sitting there

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and he just starts talking to me. I'm like wow,

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and he hands me his business card. It says Metallica

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power Metal. There wasn't a thrash yet, Dave mustaye and

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I'm like, fuck, that's cool. But then I threw out

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the car. I threw it out like a fucking idiot, man,

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you know. But there's so many iconic memories, is my point,

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that you have when that band was original members, and

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I think that's what people associate to it, like those

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were the good times, you know, so you knowl and

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it probably feels the same way for you guys too, right,

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you know, it's like that was the good time to

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now whatever went on all through the years, those good

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times are back again, and there's a comfort there.

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It's like nold pair of.

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Jeans, you know, when you get back together, Like when

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you guys start doing this, now, was it really hard

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to get back on the bike, Like was there or

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did you just get up there and just play?

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Yeah? It was, it was. It's funny.

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I got all the old stuff for me, the first

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three records. I can play almost any song or at

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any time.

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Because you've probably played it, like yeah, two million, some.

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Of the newer even the newer hits from our later albums,

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I was like, Oh my god, how's this go again?

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There are songs I hadn't played in twenty some.

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Years that I could play better than some of the

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songs I've played more recently.

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It's funny how it works that way. I don't know.

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It is a trip, though, it is because like you

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think about, you take that song, that's your old song,

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like we don't even have to practice because you probably

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already played it a million times.

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Yeah, that muscle memory kicks in.

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And sometimes when I was relearning some of the stuff

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it went, it clicks. I'd be trying to play it

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in the wrong spot, like the notes here, but it's

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not the right place, you know, And then you find

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them the spot that you play it, and.

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It's like, oh, yeah, there it is. That's it.

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There it is, And it'll just come like as I'm playing,

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I'm playing all of a sudden, it's just like they're

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singing songs we'd played live a few times.

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I just never quite felt right.

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Until I played it in the right you know, the

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old position position I was playing, Oh yeah, this is right,

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this is where it goes very cool.

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Anything else that you guys have coming up that we

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want to tell the listeners or do you have any

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more plans for after after Shock?

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So we had a couple of shows.

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We're down in Bakersfield and in San Diego this run,

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and then we got a few weeks off. Like I said,

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we're only doing kind of weekend warrior stuff. We're a

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couple of hometown shows. Were ending the year with some

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shows at the Machine Shop in Flint, Michigan, and then

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after that we're gonna take a little break. We got

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some stuff next year, but nothing we can announce yet,

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and then you know, just gonna add on to next

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year and mostly take the winner off though enjoy some

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time off.

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So our listeners, how do they connect with you guys

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so they can find out what's going to be coming

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up next year?

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We have all this, you know, Instagram and Facebook are

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probably the two main ones we use. We all have

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our own individual ones, but plus we have we just

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started a fan vip list thing that you can sign

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up for that. We haven't done too much with it yet,

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but I've got We've got a lot of things we're

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planning for it. We just haven't you know, we've just

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been so busy with everything, but once we get a break,

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I'm gonna start focusing on that.

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So there's some really cool stuff there. Yeah. Cool.

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Well, I'm glad you guys were here at After Shock,

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Badass and Louder and welcome to Rockville and Sonic Temple,

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and I hope we see more of you next year

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at the festivals. And thanks for being on the Adventures

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of pipe Man.

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Hell yeah, thank you man. We hope so too. Yeah,

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thanks for having us us one for sure.

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Thank you for listening to the Adventures of pipe Man

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