Sept. 3, 2024

PipemanRadio Interviews Ten Cent Revenge at Rocklahoma 2024

PipemanRadio Interviews Ten Cent Revenge at Rocklahoma 2024

PipemanRadio Interviews Ten Cent Revenge at Rocklahoma 2024

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pipe Man here on the Inventors pipe Man W four

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c Y Radio at Rocklahome and the last day no

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voice because of the campground. But I'm here with probably

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the best band of the festival so far. Don't tell

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Slipknot I know, right, fuck Slipknot even though they are

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one of my favorite bands, but fuck them anyway.

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But from where we are, they're from Iowa.

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Another Iowa band like this should be Iowa Homa Midwest

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Fest because you're like the third fourth Iowa band that

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I know of at this felial.

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We're from Nebraska, so we're a little bit, but.

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Uh, it's close enough, good enough for a resident country.

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They think it's probably the same state anyway.

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To see those guys at the Ranch Bowl in Omaha, Nebraska. Nice.

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You know, it's a stage. It's a little a great

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little rock club. But Ranch Bowl days were awesome. They

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tore it down and made a Walmart out of it.

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But yeah, Slip and I would play up there all

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the time. It was cool.

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I saw a Slip Knot in my vain third stage

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oz Fest ninety nine, the same year that they're gonna

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be doing tonight the whole first album. Yeah, all right,

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at least that's why I heard We'll see. I can

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tell them who you are. We've been talking and nobody

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even knows who the fuck you are.

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This is Ah, this is Junior Dandy. Now we're a

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tenset Revenge. We're out of Arizona. Uh well Arizona almost

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in Nebraska. Like we're from all over. We don't care

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where we're at. No, we're from Phoenix, Arizona. Been together

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for about three years. I've known Josh here what eight

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nine years? Nice and rival bands. We like to fist

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fight in the parking lot, bare knuckles all good.

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That's the second band that that happens with A Yeah. Yeah.

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So another band that was interviewing. They were talking about

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the two and two of the guys are like they've

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been friends for like forever, right, and they're great personally,

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but on stage or like a band stuff, they gained

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the fights and the two other guys in the band

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was just like, sit there and oh.

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We hate each other, but you know, we just we

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work well together. So there it is. There you go.

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We don't talk to each other otherwise.

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So here's the thing I really freaking love is I

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went to your Facebook and the contest oh No to

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get the Rock Oklahoma, and I have to say, I'll

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bet you ninety five percent of people seeing that did

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not pick up on where you were each time?

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What three? And then one was from Nebraska. I had

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to call her. I'm like, look, the giveaway is for

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an LA show and she's like, oh no, we're flying out.

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We're actually flying out. I'm like okay then, but then

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some of them are just local. I'm like, you're not

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going to LA.

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No, man?

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Yeah shows that night, I'm like.

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People were reverse google searching little segments of the photo.

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I'm like, come on, man, it was I know, it's

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like pretty easy. At the end, you're playing aside and

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basically telling people they're idiots.

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That's what I loved about it.

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Hate mail from that one.

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And then there was the one where I think you

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said to him, man, you're really good at this.

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Oh yeah. We That was in Kansas, Wade County, Kansas,

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and we just bought cookies from these two Amish girls

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on the side of the road, and I mean they

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were awesome. There was like three dollars for a big meccha.

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That's the road to Oklahoma right there. I mean, you

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didn't go to Oklahoma if you didn't buy cookies from

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Amish girls. Yeah, we got some if you want them now,

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I would try them too.

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And we also got some some brownies from some sketchy

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looking hippies and I we haven't had those.

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Yeah, we're gonna try those a little bit.

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Yeah, that might be something you might not want anything

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to do for the next eight hours.

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We decided to drive from you know, Phoenix, Arizona, and

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we got all the way through Texas into Oklahoma, you

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know New Mexico. We got into Oklahoma and we spent

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the night, and then the next day Josh is like, hey, man,

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it's like thirty in the morning. You want to just

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cruise a Lincoln, Nebraska. That's where we're from. And I'm like, yeah,

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why not? Man? So we went there, stayed ninety minutes,

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had runza and taco in, and we talked to our

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friend with middle manifesto. There's our plug and John Cruise,

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casey in and uh. And we were there for like

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ninety minutes. Then we just went home. We got here

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like midnight last night, and now we're here nice.

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So you didn't get to see the campground, did you?

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I did not, did not.

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So we were talking about before the show. And you know,

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I even have a wristband for my favorite one.

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Oh you didn't make that up. That's literally what you're okay.

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I did not make that up. It is bus booths

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and buttoles and another day's another day dawn. They came

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because I talked about an interview. I don't know if

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they believed me, but they came and they saw for

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themselves what goes on at this campsite.

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It's the right of passage.

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Let's play it this way. On the way out of

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the venue, there is a strip club campsite that does

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stripper shows. This bus is better.

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I am not going home.

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No one's ever going to see us again. Man.

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I mean, it's pretty easy to solve the US.

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See now, next time you do Rockklahoma, you could just

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do your Facebook lives from the campground.

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Oh, the meadow would shut that down so fast.

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Where where am I?

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Whereos?

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Yeah? So what happens is they were my first neighbor

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here at Rocklahoma and the campaign, and they're a school

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bus that they built the deck on top of the

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school bus, and so all night long people are coming

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up on this school bus. And then they give out

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beads because you have to understand the campsite there, which

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we'll talk about, but they give out beads if you

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show your button hole or your boobs, and it doesn't

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matter many exactly, you know. And yes, I think somewhere

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having to do with buttholes.

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No, they're under my boobs, oh man.

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Yeah.

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And so it's like, we don't care who you are,

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what you are, just show us your butt hole or

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boobs or both.

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That's awesome, right, you know, liberating.

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I'm coming here every year.

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Well I can tell you that almost every camp site

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in that campground, if you show your boobs, you get

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a shot.

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Oh my gosh, we're gonna die today.

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Yeah, they love giving out alcohol in that campground. So

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like if you came here like fuck, I don't have

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an alcohol. You're set because you'll just go places and

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they'll give it to you.

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Oh my god, Yep, we're gonna die today. We're gonna

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be buried at Ockklahoma. Yeah.

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If you go on that bus as you arrive, they'll

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welcome you with cello shots.

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Jello shots are awesome. Okay, I give him four SIPs.

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Of a margarita, goes downhill fast.

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He thinks he has thrombosis, last about twenty minutes, and

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then he's he's good to go again.

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I'm ready to do it again.

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Nice. He goes like the four stages of grief, only shitty, just.

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Not acceptance right right, No, no, that'll never come. Oh man,

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So it was funny. Your band name reminded me of

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my dad. And I'll tell you why. My dad when

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used to go out the restaurants all the time, and

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you know, he was a good tipper. He always taught

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me tip bartender's good, tip servers good. But he also

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taught me something else. We're in Vegas one time and

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we had this pissy ass, fucking dude server that was

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like rude, and so my dad left a one penny

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tip one cent. There you go, and he says to me,

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he goes, don't leave no tip, leave them a cent

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so they know you did not forget yep, so I

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see ten second revenge. Hey, that's what he did.

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No, Well, actually, it's funny. We we have many stories

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about how we came up with our name, and one

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of our favorites is, well, this one time me and

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Josh wrought in the desert in the Tonneau National Forest

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and we did a bunch of peyote and when we uh,

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you know, when we survived and came back to life,

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it was carved into a cactus or you know. We're

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in the streets of LA and this, you know, an

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alleyway and this homeless guy steps another homeless guys and

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goes tenset revenge. The reality is we were in a

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Tubes concert. We're standing right next to each other, and

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I text him, how about tenset revenge? Cool? The Tubes

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were like, yeah, good.

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So what's funny about what you said too? A couple

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of things. But you said to peyodes story and I'm thinking,

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were you high watching the Doors movie?

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Yeah? Well there was a naked ending. It was Josh.

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It was me.

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He was real confused.

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I'm a quarter Cherokee, and I was disturbed. Man, where

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are you naked?

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I know that's funny, oh man, but yeah, see you'll

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love this too. Okay, So I never asked that question

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I had to get your band name because most of

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the time it's either there's no real fucking reason or

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it's just common fucking sense, like just stop and think

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for a second before you asked that stupid question that

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they've been asked fifty million times.

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Yep.

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But the best thing is you reminded me of August

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Burn's red Oh and I'll tell you why. I said

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to him before the interview. I'm like, listen, I never

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asked stupid questions like how did you get your band name?

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And they're like, well, you're fucking lucky, because here's what

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we did. Everybody that'd ever asked us, we fuck with

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them and we come up with a different story every time.

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That's why when you said that, that's why I thought

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of and he goes, you see that girl next to you,

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she asked, And what we do is we do it

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with a complete straight face, and here's the story we

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told her. I've told this a few times because it's

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so fucking classic. Well, we were teenagers and my sister

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she got this dog. We named it August, and one

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day we were out in the street partying and somebody

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came up with this idea, Hey, looks like August on fire,

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and watch him run down the street. Ergo August Burn's

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red and they said, we had such a straight face,

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and you had to see the look of horror on

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her face. Yeah, because she thought we were dead serious

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and we don't break character.

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Oh my god. Yeah, our first interview we ever did

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in Arizona. I told Josh, we're sitting here waiting for

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him to show up, and I said, okay, dude, they're

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gonna ask us lame questions. You know, it's gonna be

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the same thing. I said, So we need to take

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control of this entire situation, right, And Josh like, well,

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how do you suggest we do that? And I had

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a bag of flower on me and I just shoved

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his face in it. I shoved my face in it,

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and I'm like, now, don't call attention to it whatsoever.

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And the one guy got it right away. He was

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just laughing the minute we walked in. But the other

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one was just staring at me us the whole time,

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So how did you come up? And we were just

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telling stories and just you know, going off. Finally somebody

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got on the live stream and like, guys, you know,

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what's with the powder? And she's like, okay, so what's

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with your faces? And I was like, oh man, we

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just you know, polished off a bag of powdered donuts. Man,

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we love cookies shit, you know. And they're just like,

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oh my god, we were not invited back.

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Wow. See you know. I love that shit though, because

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I sit here sometimes with all the media people around me,

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and sometimes I'm listening to other people's interviews. I'm like,

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if I was the artist, I would be slitting my

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fucking throat right now. Okay, especially when it comes to metal. Okay, Like,

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you can't interview metal bands and not no fucking metal

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and not be passionate about metal. Take the fucking script

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out of your hand, because you can. I can see

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the band, the look on their face when the people

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are holding scripts and reading off of it. It's like,

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my fucking god like, and then you never get the

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good ship. That's the point. That's why I do it

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the way I do. I let the interview, take a

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life of its own and find out what you guys

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want to talk about. Like why my best friends Dan

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Spitz Okay, he said to me, goes people would have

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just asked me what skin condition I used while we

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were on tour.

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Yeah, because like that's awesome.

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There's no way he would ask that. But it's like

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just pointing out the fact that, like why you ask

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all these or the questions are already out there. Why

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are you gonna ask a question that everybody already knows,

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Like I want to get that tidbit and that no

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way fucking knows. Yeah, And you're only gonna do that organically.

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You're not gonna do it from a script.

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That's the way it should be done.

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You know.

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We we have conversations, you know, we've traveled miles and

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miles together, and the stuff we talked about. We come

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up with these great grand ideas and then we can't

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remember them, you know. And then I found out he

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had a Twitter account that was called things my bass

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player says and I'll say stuff, but I'll forget what

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I'm what I said, And he's laughing at like Tracy

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Gunns liked it, and I'm like and I found out

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like a year later that he had this thing, and

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I'm like, what are you talking about, because yeah, this

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whole thing, he's got like a million followers. I'm like,

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are you serious?

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There are people in this industry that know him only

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from that Twitter.

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Account, Like, wow, man, that is bad ass. It started with, Uh,

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there was a sandwich shop that used to be in

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my neighborhood and they closed down and it became like

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a hair salon. And we were walking by it one day.

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I said, yeah, they used to be a sandwich shop.

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And we walked about five feet and I'm like, and

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I didn't think it was funny. I was just you know, talking,

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and I said, well, they still got breadsticks in there,

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and he thought that was the funniest.

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And I'm like, that's just that weird off the cuff

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bullshit it is.

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I love that shit.

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It became this whole thing with him, and I'm just like, oh, okay,

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you know right, you.

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Also have to be able to be able to go

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off script and get back on those people went to

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script if you throw them off with which if I

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was a band, I would throw them the fuck off,

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you know, And so they wouldn't even know what the

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fucking do next, because once they're on, they're like trying

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to figure out where in the script they are and

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shit like that, and uh yeah, I mean it's much

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easier to just have no fucking script. Yeah, and if

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you fuck up, who cares?

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Yeah, they.

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Know, no doubt, and I don't. I'm like, fuck it,

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keep it in there. Yesterday we got evacuate and I

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had an interview with Eva under Fire and I'm sitting

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like right outside that fence in the car. We weren't

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fucking moving. So her husband texts me and I'm like,

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I'm evacuated right now, but if you want, you can

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come out to carm right outside the media attend in

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the car and we'll do like a version of carpool

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karaoke or some ship like that. You gotta be able

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to just fucking roll with the punches.

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So Diva Underfire, how did they get their name? Eva?

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I was like, going, Wow, Diva Underfire.

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That would be a much better I know, right, you know,

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I do find that that in the metal industry and

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the guys are more of the divas than the women.

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Really, Yeah, I'm gonna have to end this interview right.

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I wanted to do the Billy Bob Thornton thing where

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you can't ask him about his his acting career, it

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only needs music. I want to reverse that, and I'm

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gona like, yeah, I'm I'm an actor. Oh oh you're

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an actor. Yeah, this interview's over, thank you very much.

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You know, like just totally reverse it on him, Like

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I love it. I'm not an actor at all? What

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are you talking about? I love it.

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I also like to find like these fucking tidbits that

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people are like where the fuck did you find that out?

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Or like.

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What's their name? Fuck, I'm drawing a blank. But when

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the bands he told me at the time and we

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were just talking and he's like, I will fuck with

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people in the interviews that I know they didn't do

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their fucking research nice. And so we're doing the interview

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and I don't do a lot of research because like

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I don't want to listen to other people's interviews because

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I don't want to copy it, Okay, And you can't

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help it sometimes if it gets in your head, you know,

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you don't even know you're doing. And I find cool shit,

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But like all the stuff some of these other people research,

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it's like, who cares you know, I try to find

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the cool ass shit that people are going to be

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like what the fuck or laugh about or whatever. So

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I'm talking to him in the interview and I said, uh,

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so you guys were originally a cover band? Huh, because

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I knew nobody asks him about that. He's like, you

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did your research in the middle of the interview because

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nobody's ever asked me about that ever?

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Nice, Like how do you not?

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It's like, look for that shit, like Slayer was a

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cover band. You know how many interviewers ever interviewed Slayer

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over the years and asked him about that? Probably nobody.

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And sometimes you are say, like to talk about that

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obscure shit, Well, yeah, it's it's.

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A different you know, it's just a whole different narrative. Yeah, No,

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they're not talking the same by I wrote. You know,

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you know I asked Gene Simmons once I met him

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at a convention, and you know, he knows who he is,

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you know, and you had this whole line of people

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it's like, oh, hey man. You know I came up

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to him and I said, hey man, do you mind

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if I ask you a question? And he not really

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paying attentions, like yeah, go ahead. I was like in

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the early seventies, you know, up until you know, like

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nineteen seventy nine, nineteen eighty, you're like doing some really

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cool Paul McCartney, real cool walking basslines, real interesting stuff.

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And then in the eighties you went to like root

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note was that just by choice? And he goes as

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the eighties, you know, it's like, you know, guitar heroes

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and stuff. I started to walk away and he goes, hey,

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you're in a band or you start to you know,

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making beer money, and I'm like, I'm in a band

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and he goes, hey, are you doing anything with it?

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And I'm like, well, I you know, print my own

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T shirts and you know, we have a newsletter and everything.

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And the next thing he's like come here, man, and

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he's talking. He's given me advice I don't understand to

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this day, right, And then like two seconds later, this

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girl jumps upon the road case, pulls her pants down,

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and she's like over her shoulders. She's like, Jean, sign

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my ass and he's like, can I borrow your panel?

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Like sure, and he goes, well, I don't want to

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lose my friend's pen where you want me to sign

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this thing? And then this other guy come ups. I

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got his thunder and he just shut off like a

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light and he's like, hey, buddy, I got you back

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to work. And it was like, but I had this.

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It was like, wow, that was And all I said was,

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you know, I talked about Paul McCartney for a minute.

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You know, So now I have a trivia question. Nice

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because I always ask trivia questions in banned interviews. Yeah,

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ninety nine percent of time they never get it. So

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I'm gonna use something you said for my trivia question.

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See this didn't This didn't happen before. It happened right here,

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right now. Why is Paul McCartney such a great bassist?

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Pop sense.

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Keep going?

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I just think he's just he just writes good singing

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bass lines.

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It goes along with the melody, goes right along with

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you do you know he never wanted to be a bassist, really,

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I did not know that he had to be the

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bassis cause as they they like Drew Straws who have him,

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John and George because he was a guitarist, did not

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know and somebody had to be the bassist, so was him.

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And that's why he's one of the greatest Bassis ever.

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So now you go back and listen to his bass

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and you'll hear the guitar in it.

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Yep, you know, and.

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Most people don't know that. It's also cool. Did you

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see the one documentary, not to get back one, but

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the one where he's with like Rick Rubin and they're

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listening to Beatles. Shit, Yeah, I loved, loved, love loved

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where he was like, yeah, you know, back then, I

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was just playing with my bloke John, and now I'm

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listening to I'm like, oh, my fucking god, I was

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playing with John Lennon. Like Paul McCartney fanboying out that

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he was playing with John Lennon. That's so fucking cool.

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We did a Q and A with Alice Cooper a

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few years back, and everybody's asking him, you know a

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lot of you know, trivia questions and stuff. And I

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asked him. I said, hey, when you were at the

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Rainbow Bar and Grill and you had your little you know,

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upper stairs there, you know, the Vampire's Layer thing, I said,

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tell me the craziest thing that you've ever done up there,

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you know, because I'm sure there's some stories, right, And

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he goes, is I'm going to tell you a different story,

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says it. But he goes, when I used to sit

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up there, I would sit on the other side of

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John Lennon when we would hang out, And he said,

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and the reason why is because if somebody walked in

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the room and bad mouthed John to Paul to gain favor,

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Paul would get up and leave the room. Wow, John

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would swing, He goes, you don't talk bad about him.

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We're not working together, we don't can't get along. But

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that's not your you know. And I was just like, Wow,

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I love that cool.

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I wouldn't even think of that.

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About he is. I always had to have John over

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here so he couldn't get to somebody. Wow, that was

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really cool. I was like, that's a that's what I

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wanted to hear.

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Those stories I like to hear right there, you know.

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And uh so, what's your guy story? Like one story?

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Good or bad, crazy or not that when you're like eighty,

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you're gonna fucking tell Okay.

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Well, I'll let Greg tell it because he's a little

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more eloquent about it than I am. But essentially I'm

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gonna set the stage because I want him to tell

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the story. It's the first trip we took to Los Angeles.

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So mister Turner, oh.

456
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I hope you got some time. Okay. So we were

457
00:23:23.960 --> 00:23:26.799
in rival bands and we share stages. We'd always do

458
00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:29.440
shows together. Well, their bass player left and I started

459
00:23:29.480 --> 00:23:32.079
to fill in. They asked me to join the band. Well,

460
00:23:32.119 --> 00:23:34.920
we decided to move down here because he started playing

461
00:23:35.759 --> 00:23:40.559
with the celebrity from from Scottsdale and from Arizona. So

462
00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:43.599
we got a chance to go play LA for the

463
00:23:43.720 --> 00:23:47.279
first time, where Nebraska kids we don't know anything about La,

464
00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:49.920
have never been there. It's like a whole different planet, right, yeah. Right,

465
00:23:50.079 --> 00:23:52.799
So we get ready to go and the other guys

466
00:23:52.839 --> 00:23:55.359
in the band they're flying out, and I looked at

467
00:23:55.440 --> 00:23:57.559
Josh and I said, we're taking a train, bro, And

468
00:23:57.640 --> 00:23:59.240
it was why. I was like, because you've never been

469
00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:01.799
on tour, you've never had an adventure. You've been sheltered

470
00:24:01.839 --> 00:24:03.279
this whole time. You were going to see some messed

471
00:24:03.319 --> 00:24:05.559
up stuff, right, And I'm gonna keep this three reader's

472
00:24:05.559 --> 00:24:07.920
guide just version. So we get on this train. It's

473
00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:10.799
a three day ride to Sacramento and then they're gonna,

474
00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:14.720
you know, shuttle us down to LA. We get into Sacramento,

475
00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:18.920
Bakersfield calls and said, hey, can't get into Bakersfield. It's

476
00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:22.480
on fire, no shuttles in or out, and we're and

477
00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:24.400
so I called my wife and I'm just like, hey,

478
00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:26.200
I don't know how we're gonna do this. Just well,

479
00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:28.640
charter a plane for Fox saying, or do something. We

480
00:24:28.720 --> 00:24:31.480
can't find anything, And so we called the rental place. Right,

481
00:24:31.559 --> 00:24:33.599
you can't even get into Bakersfield, so you can't even

482
00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:38.079
rent a car. So we called an uber and this

483
00:24:38.119 --> 00:24:39.640
guy shows up and he's like got a you know,

484
00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:42.599
like a Dodge Ram and he's like, he's like, is

485
00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:45.519
this a joke or a mistake. I know, we need

486
00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:47.960
to get to La tonight. He guys, that's like five

487
00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:51.039
and a half hours away. And we're like, yeah, okay,

488
00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:52.799
he goes, can we get snacks and shit? I'm like, yeah,

489
00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:54.480
let's go. So we get into La. Right, we do

490
00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:56.920
our show, we do our thing, and we had another

491
00:24:57.039 --> 00:24:59.920
show to do back in Nebraska and the only way

492
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:01.519
we could get back on time is to take a

493
00:25:01.640 --> 00:25:07.200
greyhound not recommend it. Right, So in the interim of

494
00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:10.799
all this, we went, Okay, I'm gonna incriminate ourselves. We

495
00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:14.400
stole a La Parks in a wreck road cone because

496
00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:17.880
and so we're trying to the deal is are we

497
00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:20.079
going to get this road cone back on the bus?

498
00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:22.440
Are they gonna let us do it? So I put

499
00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:24.680
my jacket over it, and this guy's just throwing bags

500
00:25:24.680 --> 00:25:26.880
in there. He just grabbed it. This year's yeah boom.

501
00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:29.000
I'm like, and we named it Coney, you know, so

502
00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:32.079
it's a mascot now. So we're on this bus. We

503
00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:38.440
get right outside of Saint George, Utah or first. Yeah,

504
00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:40.960
we got this. We went into Vegas first and we

505
00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:44.559
had to do a changeover. And we're sitting here waiting

506
00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:46.319
for the next bus and Josh is like, hey, man,

507
00:25:46.359 --> 00:25:48.000
you think Coney's gonna make it on the next bus.

508
00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:50.480
I'm like, no, man, they're gonna throw that in the

509
00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:52.640
garbage or leave it on here. There's no tag, nobody

510
00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:55.559
knows what it is. So we get on the on

511
00:25:55.680 --> 00:25:57.559
the other bus and we're getting ready to leave it

512
00:25:57.680 --> 00:25:59.799
and all of a sudden, these two plane closed cops

513
00:25:59.839 --> 00:26:01.759
get on and they're like, hi, we're from the Las

514
00:26:01.839 --> 00:26:03.960
Vegas Police Department and we need everybody to stay in

515
00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:06.359
their seats. We have a few questions, and I'm looking

516
00:26:06.359 --> 00:26:09.759
at Josh like don't say nothing. I don't care if

517
00:26:09.799 --> 00:26:11.799
they can print that thing. I don't know, man, right,

518
00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:13.960
And it turned out they're just like, hey, guys, got

519
00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:17.240
an drugs on you? No, we're good, right, So we

520
00:26:17.319 --> 00:26:19.960
get in the new bus. We get right outside Saint George, Utah,

521
00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:23.880
that bus breaks down completely on the side of the road, right,

522
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:26.720
So now we're worrying about you know what animals are

523
00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:28.359
going to be dining on us that evening, you know.

524
00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:32.680
So they lip this into Saint George and I called

525
00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:34.519
my wife and I said, you know, this isn't gonna

526
00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:36.440
work because they're like, it's going to take six to

527
00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:38.960
twelve hours to get another bus. Here. It's ten o'clock

528
00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:42.599
at night, right, every hotel is booked, And I'm like,

529
00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:45.799
why is every hotel booked here? The Senior Olympics were

530
00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:49.519
in town and everything was booked, right, So we finally

531
00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:52.200
found an airbnb to take pity on us. Right. So

532
00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:53.839
I went up to the bus driver and I'm like, hey,

533
00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:57.160
we're gonna take our guitars and our luggage. And by

534
00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:00.680
you know, by chance is they're a you know, three

535
00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:03.440
foot road cone. And sure enough it was on the bus, right.

536
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:06.200
So now we're like Cony's going home. So the end

537
00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:08.799
of the story is the next day, we get to

538
00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:11.359
the airport in Saint George because the only way we're

539
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:13.559
gonna get home is to rent a car. So I

540
00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:16.039
go into the airport and there's you know, hertz Avis

541
00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:18.799
rent a car, YadA, YadA, YadA, and there's one guy

542
00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:21.000
standing behind the counter. So I walked up to him

543
00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:23.839
and he's like, can I help you. I'm like, yeah,

544
00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:26.640
I need to rent a car to get back to Lincoln, Nebraska.

545
00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:29.160
He's like, oh, I can help you with that. I said, okay,

546
00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:31.079
I go I have a debit card. Yeah, yeah, we

547
00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:33.440
don't take debit cards. I'm like, okay, do you take

548
00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:35.480
a credit card? Like over the phone because I got

549
00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:37.720
my card at home. Now we don't do that. You know,

550
00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:40.160
do you have an ATM? No, no dice on anything.

551
00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:42.279
So I called my wife and I'm like, I don't

552
00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:44.039
know what the fuck to do. She goes, well, just

553
00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:46.680
go to a different one. I'm like, okay, I'm not

554
00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:49.519
making this up. I took two steps to the right,

555
00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:52.359
that same dude took two steps to the left. Now

556
00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:54.839
we're facing each other and I'm like and he goes,

557
00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:58.880
can I help you, like, you know, like it's groundhog

558
00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:02.599
Day and I need to rent a car. He goes, yeah,

559
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:04.279
I can help you with that. I'm like, I have

560
00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:07.200
a debit card. He goes, we take debit cards. I'm like,

561
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.279
are you like I'm Steve Martin in you know, plays

562
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:12.359
trains it out of there's like four seats and a

563
00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:16.079
wheel you fuck you know. So then the only car

564
00:28:16.160 --> 00:28:19.599
they had for us was a Volkswagen Bug that was

565
00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:24.000
a convertible hot pink right, So they shuttle us over

566
00:28:24.079 --> 00:28:25.559
to get it there. It is in all it's glory,

567
00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:26.920
and I'm like, I don't care at this point. I

568
00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:27.920
just need a car.

569
00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:31.000
So it goes over real well in Nebraska too.

570
00:28:31.079 --> 00:28:33.759
I bet yoh yeah, you know, no nobody cares. So

571
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:36.400
I get in there and the girl's like, can I

572
00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:38.319
help you. I'm like, yeah, we're renting that car, and

573
00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:40.359
she's like, okay, cool. She types some stuff out and

574
00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:42.799
she's like like what. She goes, oh, yeah, they just

575
00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:44.519
recalled that car this morning. I can't rent it to you.

576
00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:47.559
And the look on my face. She's like, how about

577
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:50.119
we get you a nice Impala. I'm like thank you,

578
00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:52.759
and we got we got home on time, we had

579
00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:55.119
time to take about a half hour to eat, and

580
00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:57.200
then we had to do another show and that took

581
00:28:57.319 --> 00:28:59.839
us like two days. Wow, insane.

582
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:01.279
That's life on the.

583
00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:04.759
Road, right. So we wrote a song called Hollywood about

584
00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:07.240
that adventure on our first album. I Love that.

585
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:13.599
And there's lots of stories about Hollywood, Like I was

586
00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:18.480
very involved as Sunset strip from eighty to like eighty

587
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:24.359
six nice if you could imagine. Yeah, oh yeah, you

588
00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:28.279
mentioned Rainbow. I'm like, all these stories are flying in

589
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:32.559
my head. Or like hanging out at the Rainbow with

590
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:36.160
Lemmy and Ron Jeremy and just taking the overflow of

591
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:41.720
women at fifteen years old, Like Ron Jeremy's like the

592
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:46.079
ugliest motherfucker on the planet, but man, there were the

593
00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:49.720
hottest girls around him. Oh yeah, And I'm like I'll

594
00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:50.920
just take the overflow.

595
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:54.640
Yeah yeah. I told these guys the first time we

596
00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:57.279
went out there. Josh like, hey, man, would you ever

597
00:29:57.519 --> 00:30:01.200
like do cocaine in La? And I'm like, I don't know.

598
00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:03.480
Maybe if I hooked up and like Ron Jeremy and

599
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:05.720
we went to some swanky LA thing, you know, And

600
00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:07.559
I said, hey, guys, what are guys gonna do tonight?

601
00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:09.559
I'm gonna go to the Rainbow. Oh, we're gonna watch Netflix.

602
00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:11.759
I'm going to the Rainbow. I've stayed at the Rainbow

603
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:14.039
and I'm just standing talking around and all of a sudden,

604
00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:16.519
I look over and runs right next to me. You know,

605
00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:21.720
I'm like, oh my gosh. He was wearing like pajama

606
00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:25.480
pants and crocs. He didn't care any more. I'm just like, wow, No, no,

607
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:28.000
I did not do cocaine anything.

608
00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:32.160
It's funny you should make mention cocaine because I had

609
00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:36.000
three people in the campground last night asked me if

610
00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:38.680
I had ainy cocaine. And my answer to them is,

611
00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:42.720
are we in the fucking eighties? Yeah, Like it blows

612
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:47.799
my mind when people ask, Now, you know, it's like, really, do.

613
00:30:47.839 --> 00:30:48.920
You have some queludes?

614
00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:51.359
I know, I know, right.

615
00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:55.440
You know it's funny too that you say that, because like,

616
00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:58.799
so I used to be pretty big in the investment business.

617
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:01.799
The Wolf was my competition, Like I knew him personal.

618
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:07.279
That's all right. And so we're watching them. I'm watching

619
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:10.039
a movie with my daughter, Wolf of Wall Street, and

620
00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:15.319
she's like, what are kualudes? But not like she's a

621
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:19.039
little daughter, like she's already doing a lot of drugs.

622
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:19.680
Oh really?

623
00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:21.519
Yeah, Like she's in high school doing a lot of

624
00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:25.480
drugs and she's like, what's quayludes? And it's like it's

625
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:30.559
that moment right there where you realize you're old because

626
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:33.759
your daughter that does pretty much every drug there is

627
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:39.440
doesn't know what a quaylude is. It's like, fuck, what

628
00:31:39.680 --> 00:31:40.880
are the drugs today?

629
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:44.559
Right? They're flintstone vitamins is what they are? Thank you?

630
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:47.440
I know, right, they're chicklets.

631
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:52.279
And then I got it's funny too. Have you ever

632
00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:56.960
seen the meme? Uh it's as the eighties rock star

633
00:31:57.920 --> 00:31:59.279
and the rock star of today?

634
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:01.160
Oh, yes, I've seen that.

635
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:02.279
Yes, have you seen it?

636
00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:03.720
I don't know, I don't, okay.

637
00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:07.920
So what it is is the top is the eighties

638
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:11.079
rock story. He's lying on the ground, passed out, guitar

639
00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:14.400
in one hand, follow a jack in the other, and

640
00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:17.440
then the other one where he's on the computer with

641
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:19.039
the guitar rives lab.

642
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:20.440
Yep.

643
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:22.599
It's so true though.

644
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:24.599
So I got to ask you because I have a

645
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:27.200
good rainbow story for you. All right, what is your

646
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:28.440
best rainbow story?

647
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:34.039
Fuck? The problem is is if you were in the

648
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:36.640
eighties on the Sunset Strip and you remember it. You

649
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:41.559
weren't fucking there, right, But I can't tell. I can

650
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:45.720
tell a couple of things. First of all, now, when

651
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:48.319
I go to Rainbow, I'm like, fuck, I watch him,

652
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:51.119
I damn people and check. I'm like, how the fuck

653
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:52.960
did I ever get in here at fifteen? And that

654
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:57.119
guy sit and think about it. I'm like, oh, that's right.

655
00:32:57.880 --> 00:33:01.559
I was walking over with my Hotley crew, you know.

656
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:04.680
So that's what used to go on. I'll just give

657
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:10.960
the whole Hollywood story forget just Rainbow, all of the bands.

658
00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:15.119
You were friends with them all, no matter who you were, Like,

659
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:19.599
everybody's just partying, and you used to go to the

660
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:25.000
band's house after the gig up and party all night long.

661
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:31.039
So I told this yesterday. I was at the party

662
00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:32.799
when Vincent Razzle left.

663
00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:35.519
Really yeah, So.

664
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:40.240
Since you asked, I think that's probably the most memorable,

665
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:45.000
not in a good way, story of Hollywood in those days.

666
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:48.400
So then you know miss Kim the bartender at the Rainbow.

667
00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:52.880
Yeah, but do I remember, right, I don't remember.

668
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:54.720
Yeah, she just retired.

669
00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:56.039
I was probably doing coke.

670
00:33:56.279 --> 00:33:58.640
Yeah. The first time I met her, it was like

671
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:01.279
meeting a you know, celebrity, and that's her thing. She's like,

672
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:04.519
you know, the rule was you'd buy as much cheap

673
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:06.599
food as you could, but you always tip the waitresses

674
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:09.119
because that's where that's who took care of you. And

675
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:11.119
she goes and now those same bands come back in

676
00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:13.480
the Motley's and all this, but now my tips are

677
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:17.599
in hundreds. Yeah, and I don't know them as as celebrities.

678
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:19.400
I know them as my friends. I used to party

679
00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:20.440
with no doubt.

680
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:22.400
I used to hang out at the mall with Mick

681
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:26.119
Marr's and Chris Holmes from Wasp, like we were mall rats.

682
00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:28.480
That type of shit. I got so many like that.

683
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:32.880
My eighteenth birthday party was in this like it was

684
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:37.039
a warehouse area where bands practice. That was where they

685
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:41.360
would practice in these like storage bins. And so I

686
00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:43.920
had a bunch of the LA bands at my eighteenth

687
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:47.840
birthday party, not to play, just to hang out, and

688
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:51.639
like they all of them got up on stage to

689
00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:55.159
play breaking the Law on the wrong instruments, like they

690
00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:58.440
all played instruments they didn't play. And then my best

691
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:01.639
bro passed away last year. He was tending keg and

692
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:06.840
he looked just like Bruce Dickinson, hair everything. So everybody

693
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:12.559
members a Slayer Armored, Saint Wasp, all these bands are

694
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:16.400
all calling them Bruce when they're going to get their beer. Hey, Bruce,

695
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:20.840
filled me back up. So shit like that. You know,

696
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:25.400
there's so many stories like that, or like there's one

697
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:29.559
iconic story about me actually. So you know how if

698
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:33.159
you have kids, you tell them your stories and they're like, yeah, right, sure,

699
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:36.760
they can't imagine you as a teenager doing this shit, okay,

700
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:40.039
And some of the stories from a sunset strip nobody

701
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:45.960
would fucking believe, okay. And so I interviewed a band

702
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:49.960
recently that just came out with a new album since

703
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:53.559
the eighties. They were one of my favorite bands and

704
00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:55.719
they were a thrash metal band, but they never made

705
00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:59.800
it like Mentallica Slayer, but they did tour with Motor

706
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:09.519
and so I got the interview. But the dude in

707
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:11.800
the band, who I was good friends with back then,

708
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:14.760
he didn't know who the interview was with because I

709
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:17.280
go by pipe Man, you know, but he knew my

710
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:20.360
real name. I wasn't sure if he'd remember, because it's

711
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:23.280
like there's other friends of mine from back then that

712
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:25.360
you see him after a one period of time and

713
00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:28.119
they're like, oh sorry, I forgot so many drugs, and

714
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:31.119
they'll say it straight out like that, you know. But

715
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:34.519
what happened was is I was at this gig and

716
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:36.960
I ended the gig not because of what happened, but

717
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:39.159
because I did it on the last note of the

718
00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:44.320
last song. So I climbed up on stage. Security was

719
00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:47.840
chasing me. I climbed up the Marshall stack and did

720
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:54.159
a swan dive midair. Crowd fucking moved and I hit

721
00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:59.880
teeth first into the Linoium floor. That's a bridge right now. Wow,

722
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:02.679
my teeth two knocked out, one knocked loose, and one

723
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:06.519
all the way up. And I was so full of

724
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:09.320
a drone from being in the pit and shit, I

725
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:12.880
didn't feel it, okay, And I even picked up my

726
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:14.639
teeth on the floor and I was like, fuck it

727
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:16.280
and throw them back down. I was so fucking out

728
00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:20.719
of it. My bro who's in bands now, but he

729
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:22.880
was my best bro. He put it under ice. One

730
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:24.760
of our friends. This girl comes up, she comes out

731
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:27.400
of pay, so she goes and grabs the glass she

732
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:32.119
goes to drink. No, those are teens teeth. And then

733
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:35.480
when we leave, Okay, first of all, they kicked me

734
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:37.320
out of the club as it was the country club

735
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:40.199
in Resida. They kicked me out when I hit the ground,

736
00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:42.239
like instead of taking care of me, It's like, no,

737
00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:45.079
we're gott the fuck out of here. My friends are

738
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:47.880
taking me to the hospital. I'm not feeling think cause

739
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:51.679
I'm still fucking pumped and my head's like out the window.

740
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:55.440
And then it hit and the fucking wind hit in

741
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:58.599
my mouth. The most fucking pain I ever felt in.

742
00:37:58.639 --> 00:37:59.320
My life man.

743
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:04.639
And oh my god. So now we fast forward. I've

744
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:06.880
told my kids this story. I tell them I'm a

745
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:10.079
fucking legend in La but not for being in pan

746
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:15.639
but for this fucking stupid shit. Okay, They're like, yeah, right, Dad.

747
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:18.519
They're not saying it, but I can see it in there. Fair.

748
00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:24.159
So I do this interview. I get on with them. Chris,

749
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:26.320
I'm like, hey, I don't know if you remember me,

750
00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:29.920
but he's like, fuck, yeah, I remember you because I

751
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:32.199
roadied for him, hung out with them all the time.

752
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:36.159
But he's like, he's like, I always wondered what happened

753
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:38.599
to you. I felt so bad and blah blah blah

754
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:42.079
blah blah. And so we talked about it and he says,

755
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:48.199
he goes, yeah, you are the most legendary tragedy of

756
00:38:48.519 --> 00:38:49.519
LA medal.

757
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:51.480
Ever legendary tragedy.

758
00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:54.480
I like that, Yeah, he says that. So I played

759
00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:58.280
that for my kids. Like see, I wasn't bullshit there.

760
00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:01.760
It is right there, and I didn't ask about it

761
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:04.320
or bring it up. He brought it up in the interview.

762
00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:06.599
Oh my gosh, that's awesome.

763
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:10.719
Right, So like when people call you out on your ship.

764
00:39:11.199 --> 00:39:13.880
Thank god he's got a Twitter. Oh yeah, oh yeah,

765
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:15.079
you got the proof.

766
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:17.159
And it's funny when you the first time we went

767
00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:19.679
to LA it's like you don't know who you're talking to,

768
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:21.920
you know, like like you could be talking to anybody.

769
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:24.639
And we were adopted in they we looked the way

770
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:26.559
we did and we felt like we just came home.

771
00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:29.960
I mean they treated us like royalty. We're nobody's right,

772
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:33.000
you know. And this guy we're out in the little

773
00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:36.039
courtyard area, you know, and right under you know, the

774
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:39.280
big mural, there's this guy standing next to like a

775
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:42.559
Mercedes or BMW and he's got like a khaki you know,

776
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:44.960
shorts and a nice like polo shirt on. He's got

777
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:47.840
a decent watch and he's on his phone. He sounds

778
00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:50.880
like like a cross between like Joe Peshy, you know,

779
00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:54.840
and like Scarface, and he's like, you know, you owe

780
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:56.519
me a lot of money. I'm gonna come, you know,

781
00:39:56.679 --> 00:39:59.039
fucking tear out youryballs and use him as a course

782
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:00.320
you're to pay my house or whatever.

783
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:02.440
Just something that's a good Sebastian Bach voice.

784
00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:07.280
By the way, Yeah, we got that story. We met

785
00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:09.440
Sebastian at the at the Rainbela.

786
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:12.679
I was kind of drunk and Sebastian Bach was there,

787
00:40:12.719 --> 00:40:15.079
and I grew up loving Sebastian Bach, and so I

788
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:16.800
don't give a shit. I was gonna go and talk

789
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:19.400
to him. And he had his posse Eddie Trunk was there.

790
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.639
I think there's another guy there too, I think somebody

791
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:24.320
from the Cult. But they were all hanging out at

792
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:26.559
the little Corner booth and at the Rainbow and I

793
00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:29.400
go up and we're we played some show that night,

794
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:32.639
like Bullet Boys or something, and I was all glammed

795
00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:34.679
out and shit, and I go up to him like, dude,

796
00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:39.000
like I love your music, man, like you're the reason

797
00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:41.039
that I am a singer. And he looks me up

798
00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:43.440
and down. He's like, I couldn't tell from looking at you, brother,

799
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:48.639
you'll be in skind Row. He's very nice. I could

800
00:40:48.679 --> 00:40:51.119
tell he was amused by it. I'm glad I didn't

801
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:52.480
piss him off, But yeah, I loved it.

802
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:55.159
That's cool because a lot of them were dicks in

803
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:57.760
the eighties and became cool. Like we were just talking

804
00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:00.760
about it the other day when the other Dan went festivals,

805
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:05.960
Brett Michaels played, and he was a dick in the eighties, okay,

806
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:07.719
And like I was a thrash metal head. So I

807
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:10.599
ain't like the fucking hair metal glamp. I knew them

808
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:12.880
before they became that way. That's why I didn't like them.

809
00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:15.400
And I sat there like backstage when all these bands

810
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:18.639
would sign with the record labels, record labels, be like, Okay,

811
00:41:18.719 --> 00:41:20.800
you need to start dressing like this and write your

812
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:23.079
music like this and this and that, and that's really

813
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:25.360
what got me out of the music scene. So I'm like,

814
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:28.920
fuck this. I will not pose out and sell out

815
00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:31.920
on my passion. I'll do that in the business world,

816
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:35.760
but I won't do it in music, okay. And so

817
00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:38.880
he was always so full of himself and like a

818
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:44.079
lot of them were, and now, nicest fucking guy in

819
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:47.079
the world. He played a festival we were all hanging

820
00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:49.400
out backstage like it was now like two o'clock in

821
00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:52.920
the morning, way after the festival is over, and a

822
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:56.360
bunch of us are hanging out production people. People aren't

823
00:41:56.400 --> 00:42:00.159
thrown out the trash like everyone. He comes up and

824
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:04.400
shakes every single person's hand there and thanks them all

825
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:07.679
for their part of making his life easier.

826
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:10.639
Yeah, he's always struck me as a good dude. I mean,

827
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:12.199
I mean, for the most part, all the bands that

828
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:14.960
I've looked up to have been really, really nice to me.

829
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:17.199
And I think it is partially because they're older bands

830
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:20.679
and they've gotten through that phase of we're rock stars

831
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:23.159
and shit. But yeah, no, I've had nothing but good

832
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:24.559
experiences with a lot of those guys.

833
00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:27.800
And you know, listen, I was there. It's hard not

834
00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:30.880
to be a dick. Like I went to the Motley

835
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:33.960
Crue parties because I knew they couldn't handle every woman

836
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:36.480
that was trying to get in no pan, So I'm

837
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:40.159
just gonna be there when they get rejected. The leftoverson right,

838
00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:43.719
and the leftovers are better than the average. So like,

839
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:47.480
if you're Motley Cruz leftover, you're still fucking hot, okay,

840
00:42:48.119 --> 00:42:51.519
And you know it's just it's amazing to a lot

841
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:53.880
of those bands would never even be a band today

842
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:57.599
because they'd get canceled in two seconds. The stuff that

843
00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:00.159
went on and what they wrote about and everything, but

844
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:04.119
the record labels created that debauchery. They didn't just give

845
00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:07.440
them checks. They gave them cocaine and all kinds of drugs.

846
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:09.719
Let's keep them fucking high as a kite so we

847
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:11.480
can steal all the fucking money from him.

848
00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:14.239
Yep, they're above the law, man, you know, no doubt,

849
00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:18.519
no doubt. But we excuse me this guy. So we're

850
00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:21.719
watching this guy and you know, and like I'm a newbie,

851
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:23.840
you know, I'm naive, and I'm saying, man, this guy's

852
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:26.559
a mafia guy. You know. He's screaming about somebody owned

853
00:43:26.599 --> 00:43:29.239
him money. You know. And later on, you know, I

854
00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:31.880
was upstairs at the Rainbow and that guy comes up

855
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:34.000
to me and he goes, hey, man, how you doing.

856
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:35.920
And I'm like, oh, I'm doing great. Man. He's like, yeah,

857
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:38.440
my name is Shadow, and there's anything you need. You know,

858
00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:40.039
you having a good time. I said, dude, I am

859
00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:41.519
having the best time. He goes, well, if you need

860
00:43:41.559 --> 00:43:43.760
the cocaine, I need to mess cocaine in La. You

861
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:44.400
just come to me.

862
00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:45.159
I got you, man.

863
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:48.159
I was like, holy fuck man, Like the mafia owns

864
00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:51.800
this place, right right. Yeah. So but he kept showing up,

865
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:54.960
like throughout the week that we were there, and so

866
00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:59.119
we went to see the Michael Bruce band do this

867
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:02.719
prize show with the Viper. So we go down. Of course,

868
00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:04.280
you got to go in the back entrance, you know,

869
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:06.800
in the side in the alley. He shows up and

870
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:08.400
he goes, hey, you guys look like you could use

871
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:10.519
a drink, you know. So he goes up to Turner's Liquor,

872
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:13.400
comes back with you know, solo cuffs and Jack Daniels.

873
00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:16.719
So we're sitting here like, well, we're okay, well in

874
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:19.519
La I guess you know. And he just took care

875
00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:22.400
of us. And a friend of mine really loved Lemmy

876
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:26.000
and Joey Ramon and I found a big poster with

877
00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:30.280
both of them in it. Wow, big twenty four thirty six,

878
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:33.280
you know, black and white, great great shot. And I

879
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:35.159
went to Shadow and I said, hey, bro, can you

880
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:39.239
have the Rainbow staff sign this? And he went in

881
00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:41.119
there and he's like, hey, there's a good guy. He's

882
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:43.519
got this postery. I want everybody decide, you stop doing

883
00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:44.960
what you're doing. You get over here and you sign this.

884
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:47.679
Everybody did it. The waitresses, the cook, he went in

885
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:50.599
the kitchen, you know. Wow. And so I was asking it,

886
00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:52.599
you know. A couple of days later, I was talking

887
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:56.280
to the bouncer there. Really their staff by the way,

888
00:44:56.480 --> 00:45:01.280
Rainbow staff and the whiskey staff. Amazing. Yeah, they are family.

889
00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:03.239
I will do. I'll step in front of a bus

890
00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:05.519
for this. Fuckers don't hold me to it, but I might.

891
00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:08.480
I'll think about it. So anyway, I walked up to

892
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:11.719
the security guy and I said, Bro, what's it like

893
00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:15.320
working for Shadow is? I don't work for Shadow, And

894
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:17.480
I'm thinking, oh, you're a third party, you know, like

895
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:21.079
entity or whatever. I was like, well, like, you know

896
00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:23.280
he owns this place, right And he goes, oh no, No,

897
00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:26.400
he doesn't own the Rainbow or anything. I'm like, but

898
00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:30.079
he manages it. He goes no. I'm like, well, who

899
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:31.920
the fuck is this guy? He's been taking care of

900
00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:34.000
us like he's the king of La for like a week.

901
00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:36.519
And he goes, oh, Shadow, Yeah, he's just this homeless

902
00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:38.000
guy that we let hang out here. And he just

903
00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:40.960
kind of hangs out and I'm like, but my point is,

904
00:45:41.639 --> 00:45:43.679
you don't know who you're talking to in La. Now

905
00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:46.360
we're walking down the street one night at two am.

906
00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:49.719
This just happened like three or four months ago, and

907
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:52.559
this guy is come. We're walking toward the whiskey, and

908
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:56.800
this other guy's walking up sunset dressed like like you know,

909
00:45:56.880 --> 00:45:59.880
Banana Republic. Now he's got the white suit, he's got

910
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:02.320
you know, like the the fedora. I mean, he's dressed

911
00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:05.639
to the nines at two am, right, And I'm a gabber,

912
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:09.920
so I'm like, bro, man, congratulations you are dressed like

913
00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:12.199
I look at you, man, you know this is awesome. Right,

914
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:14.400
And he turns to me and he does this bow

915
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:17.199
and he goes into this show tune. He's got this

916
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:20.559
white beard. He's just this old man singing these show tunes.

917
00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:22.880
And this girl is this friend of ours that was

918
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:26.239
with us. She joins in and they're harmonizing and doing

919
00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:28.000
all this. They do this little dance this you know,

920
00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:33.320
Grace Kelly, and they finished with the florist. She curtsies,

921
00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:36.480
he bows, and he goes, I go, man, that was amazing.

922
00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:38.280
He got a great voice. He goes, Yeah, my name's

923
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:40.320
Odean I'm the original singer for Motley Cree. How you doing?

924
00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:45.199
And I'm like, wow, wow, that even predates me, because

925
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:48.719
I that's what got me hooked on the whole La

926
00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:54.119
metal scene and clubs is. My first club show was

927
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:59.800
nineteen eighty Motley Crew at the Roxy. There wasn't e

928
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:03.800
that album yet, Okay, I had the original Too Fast

929
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:05.159
for Love with the zipper on it.

930
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:07.760
Really yeah, oh my god, kind of like sticky fingers.

931
00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:10.639
Yeah yeah, uh and I think there were like only

932
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:12.960
thirty of them made or some shit like that. I

933
00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:16.559
don't have it now, fuck me. Uh but uh yeah,

934
00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:20.320
I mean like shit like that goes on and it's

935
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:23.400
like just you don't know what's going right. I went

936
00:47:23.480 --> 00:47:28.119
to Metallica's first show ever nice and you know, talk

937
00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:31.199
about timing. I'm a Jersey boy. One day my dad

938
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:35.000
comes home and he's like, pack your bags, we're moving

939
00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:40.440
to California in three days, right, And that was nineteen eighty.

940
00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:44.400
Got and so you do not look that old man,

941
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:46.559
I'm not kidding. Well, thank you, holy shit man.

942
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:52.800
And so after Metallica, place such the true I think

943
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:55.440
it was at the Troubadour or the Woodstock or some shit.

944
00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:58.559
I don't remember. Stude comes up to me that was

945
00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:02.119
in the band, right, starts talking to me, because it's

946
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:04.360
what happened. The band would just come off, start talking

947
00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:06.119
to everybody in the club and then hey, let's go

948
00:48:06.199 --> 00:48:11.320
over our house and party, you know, And he hands

949
00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:16.840
me his business card. He had a business card, white card,

950
00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:21.599
blue writing, Metallica, power metal. There was no such thing

951
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:23.920
as thrash, yet they were power metal for a minute.

952
00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:31.599
Dave Mustain, Wow, right, ye businessman again? Fuck I wish

953
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:34.440
I had that card, like, because oh yeah, I would

954
00:48:34.639 --> 00:48:37.079
in an interview pull it out in my pocket, like, hey,

955
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:42.079
do you remember giving me this bro that I wish? Right,

956
00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:45.639
I mean, there's just so many you asked me stories,

957
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:48.519
There's so many of them. And as he tell stories,

958
00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:52.039
you start thinking of all this other shit, you know,

959
00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:55.760
like the time we were leaving the Troubadour and I'm

960
00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:59.320
the driver and my bros asked me to stop at

961
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:02.679
seven left and I'm barked waiting in the vehicle and

962
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:05.519
They're running out of seven eleven with cases of beer

963
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:11.400
under their arms. I'm like, oh shit, go go go.

964
00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:16.639
You know, shit like that all the time, you know,

965
00:49:17.480 --> 00:49:21.840
And just I mean, I think about how lucky I

966
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:25.360
was to experience that time and Metal because when I

967
00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:28.559
went to that Motley Cruise shirt the show, like they

968
00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:31.079
were horror punk men. They were trying to burn the

969
00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:35.800
roxy down to bring Satan in, like literally they have

970
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:39.360
fire everywhere. I'm like, this is the best thing ever.

971
00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:42.599
I'm never going to a real concert ever again. And

972
00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:46.119
from then on, I was at one club or another

973
00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:50.760
every Friday and Saturday night for some show. Saw every

974
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:54.400
band there ever was. I saw a striper open for Slayer,

975
00:49:55.079 --> 00:49:56.039
if you can imagine.

976
00:49:56.079 --> 00:49:56.480
That's that.

977
00:49:56.800 --> 00:50:02.199
That's why Metallic and slag Or left LA because there

978
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:05.000
was no way to play with, you know, and it

979
00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:08.760
was a bullshit scene, you know. So then when they left,

980
00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:12.199
me and my bro you said, Greyhounds, We used to

981
00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:15.320
take the Greyhound or hitchhike up to San Francisco to

982
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:17.679
Bay Area to go to shows. And then we're like,

983
00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:23.079
holy fuck, now that's a show because like we thought

984
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:26.280
we were cool in LA, and they're like, oh, bay

985
00:50:26.360 --> 00:50:30.280
Area was awesome, Oh my god, unbelievable, you know, and

986
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:34.519
like so got to see Exodus when Kirk was in Axous,

987
00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:38.280
you know, and shit like that. Got to see Possessed

988
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:43.039
in the beginning, Dark Angel and fucking like and then

989
00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:46.400
you got to see Alison Chains get booed off stage

990
00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:49.760
because they're playing with all the thrash bands. And then

991
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:51.639
of course we know what happened after that.

992
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:55.280
You know, I saw their last show at Kansas City,

993
00:50:55.360 --> 00:50:57.159
Missouri Kiss Tour.

994
00:50:57.719 --> 00:50:57.960
Wow.

995
00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:01.760
That was that was. I was never a huge fan,

996
00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:04.760
you know, I appreciated it. You know, I didn't get

997
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:07.679
into them until like jar Flies right right, and I

998
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:12.400
walked in and Lane Staley's voice, Man, it was powerful.

999
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:17.119
Like it was even all the thrash bands They're like, fuck,

1000
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:20.280
this band's gonna get big, like they were nervous about it.

1001
00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:20.800
Really.

1002
00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:23.840
Yeah, it's like this, I'll tell you. Also, all the

1003
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:27.239
other thrash bands they knew Metallica was the one. They

1004
00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:31.519
were like, there's something about that, which is you know,

1005
00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:34.880
it's pretty funny just to talk about music, talent and

1006
00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:38.800
stuff like. That's why I found out in LA you

1007
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:41.000
can have talent and go nowhere, and you can have

1008
00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:44.400
no talent and go to the fucking moon. And you know,

1009
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:47.760
I love Metallica and one of my favorite bands, but

1010
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:52.559
there's so many people that criticize their actual talent, right,

1011
00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:53.840
I don't know that.

1012
00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:54.360
I agree.

1013
00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:59.239
I think Hatfield's well and the fastest fucking strummer ever.

1014
00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:03.239
You know, his trick, he has a trick. He uses

1015
00:52:03.400 --> 00:52:06.639
three fingers with the pick really okay, so he has

1016
00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:09.719
more supportive pick and doesn't drop it, so he could

1017
00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:13.760
go like that and and the pick stays and doesn't

1018
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:18.880
flex or anything. How about that? And he hated his

1019
00:52:19.079 --> 00:52:21.280
voice back then. I like his voice better back then,

1020
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:26.159
you know, you know, but like he always complains, like, yeah,

1021
00:52:26.239 --> 00:52:30.639
the San Jose Sharks, they played the original Seeking Destroy.

1022
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:33.000
I wish they'd played a newer one because my voice

1023
00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:35.920
sucked then, because he didn't learn how to sing until after.

1024
00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:38.679
And like he used to be in the beginning kind

1025
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:41.360
of shy and in the background. You know, even though

1026
00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:44.639
he was a singer, he wasn't a front man like that.

1027
00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:48.000
He became it. Yeah, and one of the best ever,

1028
00:52:48.480 --> 00:52:52.960
you know. So he told all these stories. He told

1029
00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:55.559
some of your stories. But let's talk about your music

1030
00:52:55.679 --> 00:53:00.920
now that we've done probably the longest festival interview ever. Right,

1031
00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:06.760
Luckily I had a break between interviews today yours, and

1032
00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:09.280
then my next one was two thirty, so we got

1033
00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:11.880
good shit. But and you have time or else you

1034
00:53:11.960 --> 00:53:13.199
had said, fuck off, let's go.

1035
00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:13.760
Yeah.

1036
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:15.320
Wait wait, I would have seen it.

1037
00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:15.679
No.

1038
00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:19.119
You know, you can tell when somebody's like, okay, it's done.

1039
00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:22.320
Josh does a lot of song righty. I'm on the

1040
00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:24.719
heavier side, I guess, and more of the punk side.

1041
00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:27.280
Josh has a great sense of melody, and he's just

1042
00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:30.480
a gifted guitar player, you know, a shameless plug.

1043
00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:31.840
Right I paid him to say that.

1044
00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:33.360
Nice how he got here.

1045
00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:38.519
And I do love that you can take the punk

1046
00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:42.119
and put it with the melody. So many people back

1047
00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:47.679
then don't do that, and all the gatekeeping shit, you know,

1048
00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:51.159
like that was that was the sucky part about the eighties,

1049
00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:53.400
Like I couldn't go to punk shows. I loved punk,

1050
00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:55.480
but I couldn't go I get my ass beat, you know,

1051
00:53:56.079 --> 00:53:59.079
And so I love that. It's cool we can be

1052
00:53:59.159 --> 00:54:02.519
at Rocklahoma here and there's a punk band playing today,

1053
00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:05.599
there's a country band playing today, and there's a metal

1054
00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:08.679
band playing today, and the rock band you know, like

1055
00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:09.800
just all of that.

1056
00:54:10.599 --> 00:54:14.119
Josh is just he's more classic rock, you know. Nice.

1057
00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:16.880
I mean it's weird because you know, when I met him,

1058
00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:19.599
he was much younger than me, and and he was.

1059
00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:22.719
He's a walking encyclopedia. I mean half the time we're

1060
00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:25.119
on road trips rest in a Black Oak Karkansas, and

1061
00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:29.760
he nice everything about it. He's like a Wikipedia page

1062
00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:31.000
of any band.

1063
00:54:31.199 --> 00:54:33.920
Okay, then i'll have when we're done with this part

1064
00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:38.400
of it, I'm trivia question. I'm setting about for a

1065
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:39.159
trivia question.

1066
00:54:39.239 --> 00:54:39.840
Do you want now?

1067
00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:41.119
Sure, let's do it now?

1068
00:54:41.239 --> 00:54:43.960
Yeah, okay, it's when I think it'll be an easy one.

1069
00:54:44.039 --> 00:54:45.159
Then I hope.

1070
00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:48.960
What was Black Sabbath's original name?

1071
00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:53.880
Oh God, I'm gonna look like such a jackass here.

1072
00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:56.760
And I'll let him answer since he knows it after

1073
00:54:56.880 --> 00:54:57.360
you fail.

1074
00:54:58.239 --> 00:54:58.800
Oh, go ahead.

1075
00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:01.360
For some reason, I'm thinking of Coven, but that's a

1076
00:55:01.400 --> 00:55:02.559
different band entirely.

1077
00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:06.199
Yep, it's Earth, that's right, Ding ding ding, We have

1078
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:06.719
a winner.

1079
00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:09.079
Yeah you did look at that.

1080
00:55:09.320 --> 00:55:16.840
Yeah, ask him about Black Coak, ar Kansas. Ok No,

1081
00:55:18.440 --> 00:55:20.920
he's like that guy in the in the Adam Sandler movies.

1082
00:55:20.920 --> 00:55:23.000
You can't understand it what he says. But he is

1083
00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:26.599
the sweetest dude you will ever meet. And what I

1084
00:55:26.800 --> 00:55:31.079
like about Jim, and we both known Jim for a

1085
00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:35.960
long time for through different avenues. When he's on stage

1086
00:55:36.079 --> 00:55:38.679
he could be in front of ten people or ten thousand,

1087
00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:43.679
always smiling, always smiling, and it's a genuine smile, you know,

1088
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:45.719
and it's of course you know that he's a deviant,

1089
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:47.920
which is great. We're sitting there at a signing with him,

1090
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:51.000
We're sitting next to him, and he talks like a pirate.

1091
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:53.239
It's great. And there's these little you know, this guy

1092
00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:55.840
with his kids there and he's signing stuff and he's

1093
00:55:55.880 --> 00:55:58.159
talking to me and my buddy and he's like and

1094
00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:00.480
then we're over on the coast and we had a

1095
00:56:00.519 --> 00:56:04.760
little menage act and I'm like, dude, that kid's like

1096
00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:09.280
ten man, like, come on. And my wife called me.

1097
00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:11.760
They stayed with us for a while and my wife

1098
00:56:11.800 --> 00:56:14.639
called me. She's like, black Oak, Arkansas is on our house.

1099
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:17.960
It's like freaking midnight. And I said, how'd that go? You?

1100
00:56:18.079 --> 00:56:19.599
The next day we were out of town, she goes,

1101
00:56:20.039 --> 00:56:22.440
Jim sat in our gazebo and told me his entire

1102
00:56:22.519 --> 00:56:27.559
life story. But he I guess he doesn't understand boundaries,

1103
00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:31.760
and he just gets closer and closer. And my wife's like, okay, Jim.

1104
00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:34.599
That's awesome, you know, so I can get that because

1105
00:56:34.599 --> 00:56:35.519
I don't like that either.

1106
00:56:35.559 --> 00:56:38.599
It's like, but he's just a genuine guy. Yeah, and

1107
00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:41.480
that's what I aspire to be. That's what Josh definitely is.

1108
00:56:41.880 --> 00:56:44.000
You know, I love that. That's the way it should

1109
00:56:44.039 --> 00:56:45.840
be in You know, it's funny you say about on

1110
00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:49.920
stage because you can tell as a listener whether somebody's

1111
00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:53.519
into it or not into it. And that's smiling that

1112
00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:56.960
you're talking about, Like, I want you guys up there

1113
00:56:57.079 --> 00:57:00.639
having a fucking blast, because otherwise why you and this business?

1114
00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:02.519
There's no other reason.

1115
00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:03.480
I do this for fun?

1116
00:57:06.719 --> 00:57:10.760
Who would do you say? Your music from your point

1117
00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:14.199
of view and your point of view would be the

1118
00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:17.880
biggest influence or the biggest influence that made you want

1119
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:18.679
to be in music.

1120
00:57:19.639 --> 00:57:22.199
I mean, for me, it was Aerosmith. I loved the

1121
00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:24.639
groove and the melody and they blended that all with

1122
00:57:24.719 --> 00:57:26.719
hard rock, and that was the I grew up in Nebraska,

1123
00:57:26.800 --> 00:57:29.119
so I was surrounded by country bands, so all I

1124
00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:30.960
knew even if it was rock and roll. It was

1125
00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:34.199
like the Marshall Tucker Band and I and nothing wrong

1126
00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:36.679
with I love those guys right too. But like my

1127
00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:40.320
introduction to heavier music was Aerosmith's Rocks album nice, and

1128
00:57:40.400 --> 00:57:43.960
I thought, that's there's so much more beyond this melodic

1129
00:57:44.039 --> 00:57:46.960
pop country that was big at the time. And yeah,

1130
00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:50.719
Steven Tyler was my still is my vocal hero.

1131
00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:53.639
I love him so much and it's so sad that

1132
00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:55.679
they had to cancel of the tour because his vocals

1133
00:57:55.719 --> 00:57:56.079
are gone.

1134
00:57:56.480 --> 00:58:00.199
I'm glad that they made that decision because I would

1135
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:02.639
rather they go out. I saw them once when I

1136
00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:04.920
was like twelve. I was gonna go see them again.

1137
00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:05.119
Now.

1138
00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:07.480
I would rather have the memory of having seen them

1139
00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:09.079
when I was a kid and being blown away than

1140
00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:10.800
watching him half ascid and struggle.

1141
00:58:11.079 --> 00:58:14.840
And this might not be a nice thing to say,

1142
00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:17.559
but I'd rather see him go out the way he's

1143
00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:19.119
going out than Vince Steel.

1144
00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:22.440
Oh yeah, I'm with you on that because I loved.

1145
00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:25.239
Vin Sneil's voice. But you're a train wreck now.

1146
00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:26.159
You know.

1147
00:58:26.760 --> 00:58:28.880
It's that simple, and I hate to say it, but

1148
00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:30.920
it will happen to all of us, like at some

1149
00:58:31.159 --> 00:58:34.000
point you don't just have you just don't have the

1150
00:58:34.079 --> 00:58:36.519
tools anymore because we get old and we lose shit.

1151
00:58:36.639 --> 00:58:40.000
And you know, it's very rare that a singer can

1152
00:58:40.039 --> 00:58:43.039
be as good, like even I'm a huge Slayer fan.

1153
00:58:43.559 --> 00:58:45.800
I miss the days when Tom could scream back in

1154
00:58:45.880 --> 00:58:49.559
the day. Yeah, you know you can't and it's okay,

1155
00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:53.440
but I miss it, you know type of thing. Yeah,

1156
00:58:55.760 --> 00:58:56.519
you're gonna hate me.

1157
00:58:56.880 --> 00:58:57.159
Oh oh.

1158
00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:01.400
I was doing radio coverage for this conference called NAB,

1159
00:59:01.599 --> 00:59:05.639
which is a broadcasting conference, and the keynote speaker was

1160
00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:06.800
Steven Tyler.

1161
00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:08.119
Yeah, and.

1162
00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:12.000
It ripped off, so I don't have it anymore. But

1163
00:59:12.159 --> 00:59:15.239
he gave me one of these things oh yeah, and

1164
00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:17.039
so I've wore it for like a while, like he

1165
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:20.159
personally he has I don't even remember what it said,

1166
00:59:20.199 --> 00:59:21.880
but he personally gave it to me.

1167
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:23.920
I'm like, he's just one of those dudes that when

1168
00:59:23.960 --> 00:59:26.719
he walks into a room, he's unmistakably Stephen.

1169
00:59:26.440 --> 00:59:27.639
Tyler, no doubt.

1170
00:59:27.719 --> 00:59:29.719
If it's that aura that I love about him.

1171
00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:32.519
But you know what's funny too, is my son came

1172
00:59:32.599 --> 00:59:35.840
home from school one day a new song came out

1173
00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:40.920
and he goes, Damn, there's this new band. They're really

1174
00:59:41.079 --> 00:59:45.880
fucking good. They're called Arrowsmith. I'm like, yeah, they were

1175
00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:47.679
a new band when I was a kid too.

1176
00:59:51.400 --> 00:59:54.119
My dad hated rock and roll. He love country. So

1177
00:59:54.280 --> 00:59:55.920
my first concert was Johnny.

1178
00:59:55.679 --> 00:59:57.840
Cash and that's a good one, yo.

1179
00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:00.719
Yeah, I still got the tour program and everything. But

1180
01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:04.679
then any he hated rock and roll, hated it, like

1181
01:00:04.760 --> 01:00:06.880
he walked out on Willie Nelson because Willie Nelson had

1182
01:00:06.920 --> 01:00:10.159
long hair and you know, wow. But he took me

1183
01:00:10.280 --> 01:00:13.840
to see the seventy seven Kiss concert. And this was

1184
01:00:13.920 --> 01:00:17.039
before you know, TV and or before TV, before the internet,

1185
01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:21.280
before they were really on TV all the time. I didn't.

1186
01:00:21.440 --> 01:00:23.199
I didn't, you know. I just see see him in

1187
01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:27.039
pictures and the album covers, right, and to see them actually,

1188
01:00:27.400 --> 01:00:29.840
like I couldn't believe they were real, right. So yeah,

1189
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:32.800
for me, you know, it was Kiss, Motley Crue. That's

1190
01:00:32.840 --> 01:00:34.800
always been my influence. Is now I listen to everything

1191
01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:37.599
from funk to jazz to country to whatever, you know,

1192
01:00:37.679 --> 01:00:41.119
whatever's good, you know. But back in the day, if

1193
01:00:41.159 --> 01:00:42.679
you came to school on your first day with your

1194
01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:45.039
Motley Cruze shirt, and you came to school the second

1195
01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:47.039
day with a Depeche Mode shirt, you're gonna get your

1196
01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:48.719
ass beat and you have no friends.

1197
01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:51.559
Well, in my day, if you came in the school

1198
01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:55.119
one year with Motley Cruze short, it was cool. The

1199
01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:58.079
next year you're a Slayer show and somebody's ripping that

1200
01:00:58.199 --> 01:01:00.840
off your body and throwing it up to he's burning

1201
01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:07.239
it on stage, you know. And yeah, I mean it's funny.

1202
01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:11.800
Kiss has been common theme this weekend and for me too,

1203
01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:16.639
Like everybody like that I've talked to, it's like Kiss

1204
01:01:16.719 --> 01:01:19.519
is either an influencer, they loved him or whatever, or

1205
01:01:19.599 --> 01:01:22.239
that's what got into it. Me too. I was a

1206
01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:27.360
Jersey boy. I went to the Jersey Shore. I think

1207
01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:30.639
I was in first grade. I can't remember kiss. It

1208
01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:33.159
just came out. I didn't know who they were, okay,

1209
01:01:33.800 --> 01:01:38.280
and I was playing this carny game that I won.

1210
01:01:39.119 --> 01:01:40.880
I picked it because there were albums up there. I

1211
01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:44.559
didn't have any albums yet. All my albums I stole

1212
01:01:44.599 --> 01:01:47.440
from my brother that was eleven years older ID and

1213
01:01:47.960 --> 01:01:50.400
to the classic rock person. A couple of weeks ago,

1214
01:01:50.519 --> 01:01:54.079
I interviewed John Lodge. You know who that is. Yes,

1215
01:01:54.599 --> 01:01:59.280
even went to the show, and I told them in

1216
01:01:59.360 --> 01:02:02.280
the interview, like, yeah, I know about you because I

1217
01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:05.039
stole my brother's album that was eleven years older me

1218
01:02:05.119 --> 01:02:07.519
and started listening to you, because yeah, thank god for

1219
01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:09.920
older brothers. That's all our fans are, just like you,

1220
01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:14.800
you know. But I looked up and I saw this

1221
01:02:15.079 --> 01:02:22.360
black album with these four faces, like, holy shit, that's

1222
01:02:22.440 --> 01:02:23.159
the one I want.

1223
01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:25.039
And it just came out.

1224
01:02:25.599 --> 01:02:27.960
And so my first album I ever owned that was

1225
01:02:28.119 --> 01:02:32.320
mine was the original Kiss album when it first came out, right,

1226
01:02:32.800 --> 01:02:35.840
And then it's funny we were talking about the Beatles.

1227
01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:40.679
Then why am I We had to do some report

1228
01:02:41.079 --> 01:02:43.559
oral report in school, and when my friends came into

1229
01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:46.719
oral report on the Beatles and started playing their music

1230
01:02:46.800 --> 01:02:50.079
in class, and I automatically became like a Beatles freak.

1231
01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:55.719
So my bedroom was Posters walla wall, no wall, and

1232
01:02:55.880 --> 01:03:00.960
like I'm like, I'm fucking bipolar, split down the fucking middle.

1233
01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:06.679
Kiss on this side, Beatles on this side. But then

1234
01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:09.239
I talk about and a lot of people don't never

1235
01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:12.159
figured it out they are And I know you probably

1236
01:03:12.199 --> 01:03:14.960
think because of what you said earlier, they were so similar,

1237
01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:21.079
like Kiss pattern themselves after the Beatles. You know, Gene

1238
01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:23.559
and Paul on every song, no matter who wrote it,

1239
01:03:24.760 --> 01:03:27.519
Paul and John on every song, no matter who wrote it,

1240
01:03:28.079 --> 01:03:30.960
whoever wrote the song, sang the song like, there were

1241
01:03:31.119 --> 01:03:36.000
so many things, and when I tell people about them,

1242
01:03:36.079 --> 01:03:38.599
both be my like, how could they both be your

1243
01:03:38.639 --> 01:03:40.880
favorite bands? That just doesn't make any sense, and then

1244
01:03:40.920 --> 01:03:42.559
I tell them why it does make sense.

1245
01:03:43.239 --> 01:03:45.519
They had great pop miller pop sense on those first

1246
01:03:45.559 --> 01:03:49.840
three four albums. Kiss is a pop band there, you know.

1247
01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:51.400
I mean they were a heavier pop band, you know.

1248
01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:54.039
So I got a question for you, and this is

1249
01:03:54.159 --> 01:03:59.840
a dissension between us. How do you pronounce Blueyster Cult?

1250
01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:02.440
You just brought up a story.

1251
01:04:02.760 --> 01:04:03.719
I got a great story.

1252
01:04:04.039 --> 01:04:06.800
I did too, But how do you pronounce how do

1253
01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:08.719
you say it blue ice er cold?

1254
01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:09.239
See?

1255
01:04:09.559 --> 01:04:13.199
I apparently I say it blue oyster Colt. Apparently that's wrong.

1256
01:04:13.480 --> 01:04:14.119
Yeah, that's wrong.

1257
01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:16.559
I heard Buck Dharma say it one time that way.

1258
01:04:17.199 --> 01:04:20.079
Okay. So I have another trivia question for you. Sure

1259
01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:24.360
if you know the answer, just say you know the

1260
01:04:24.440 --> 01:04:27.039
answer and we'll wait till after I tell a story

1261
01:04:27.079 --> 01:04:29.280
for the answer. But if you don't know the answer,

1262
01:04:29.320 --> 01:04:31.519
it didn't show it how much you don't know? Yeah,

1263
01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:37.159
Blue icer Colt? Did they ever have another name? Like

1264
01:04:37.239 --> 01:04:38.480
Black Sabbath? I named Earth?

1265
01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:39.000
Yeah?

1266
01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:39.559
I know that one.

1267
01:04:39.679 --> 01:04:45.000
Okay. So in Jersey there was this place. Sometimes it

1268
01:04:45.159 --> 01:04:47.840
was a strip club, sometimes it was a music club,

1269
01:04:48.119 --> 01:04:52.000
and it was art stocks playpen. We used to call

1270
01:04:52.039 --> 01:04:56.280
it the pig pen. And I walked in there one

1271
01:04:56.400 --> 01:05:01.159
day and there was this band playing really good and

1272
01:05:01.239 --> 01:05:06.000
they were doing cover song of Godzilla. I'm like, fuck,

1273
01:05:06.119 --> 01:05:08.480
that's really good. And their name was up on the

1274
01:05:08.599 --> 01:05:13.920
marquis whoever the band was, and turns out it was

1275
01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:17.679
Blue Asher Cold playing as Soft White Underbelly.

1276
01:05:17.800 --> 01:05:19.360
That's insane. Yeah.

1277
01:05:19.559 --> 01:05:22.880
So anytime that they would go on tour, and you

1278
01:05:23.039 --> 01:05:24.800
notice as a band, a lot of bands do this,

1279
01:05:25.239 --> 01:05:28.800
they'll do their warm upside club under a different name.

1280
01:05:30.079 --> 01:05:33.400
So they always used their original name when they would

1281
01:05:33.480 --> 01:05:35.840
do that, and nobody knew it was them until they

1282
01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:38.320
started playing the songs that people knew.

1283
01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:40.239
I don't know that one. I don't know that name.

1284
01:05:40.400 --> 01:05:45.119
Blue it was Soft White Underbelly. Oh yeah, gosh see

1285
01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:45.519
he knew.

1286
01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:45.960
Yeah.

1287
01:05:46.079 --> 01:05:49.079
Well, my cousin grew up in Long Island. She saw

1288
01:05:49.159 --> 01:05:51.159
them when that was originally their name back in like

1289
01:05:51.199 --> 01:05:54.239
the sixties, yes, and so she saw them as literally

1290
01:05:54.320 --> 01:05:56.679
that was who they are as I. Yeah, It's just

1291
01:05:56.960 --> 01:05:58.519
I wish I was around in that era when I

1292
01:05:58.519 --> 01:06:00.920
could have seen all those right, and.

1293
01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:04.559
To see him in the club I saw Man Club

1294
01:06:04.639 --> 01:06:09.000
in the nineties, you know, And another story like that.

1295
01:06:09.679 --> 01:06:12.719
I live in Florida's dating this girl. There's this place

1296
01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:16.159
in Fort Laurdale called Cheers that used to have punk

1297
01:06:16.280 --> 01:06:22.039
rock karaoke and it was called Skaraoke. It's called Skaraoke Awesome.

1298
01:06:22.320 --> 01:06:26.400
And she calls me. She's outside waiting online to get

1299
01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:29.760
into the place. She's like, man, there's this really good

1300
01:06:29.920 --> 01:06:33.519
Iron Man cover band playing inside. I'm like, that's cool.

1301
01:06:33.800 --> 01:06:36.760
And this place is a fucking dive bar, Like it's

1302
01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:40.000
not even a club. This place is about as big

1303
01:06:40.079 --> 01:06:44.639
as this little area here. And she walks inside calls

1304
01:06:44.719 --> 01:06:47.920
me back. She's like, oh my fucking god, it's Iron Maiden.

1305
01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:52.440
Nico lives in Boca. He even owns a restaurant there,

1306
01:06:52.880 --> 01:06:56.159
so they would go there to play a show before

1307
01:06:56.239 --> 01:06:57.800
they're going on tour to warm up.

1308
01:06:58.920 --> 01:07:02.639
We did a show in Nebraska and Bluister Cult was

1309
01:07:02.679 --> 01:07:05.440
on the bill, but because of COVID at the time,

1310
01:07:05.639 --> 01:07:07.800
they were like, well, they really don't want an opening act,

1311
01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:09.880
so they said, you guys are coming all the way

1312
01:07:09.880 --> 01:07:12.800
from Arizona, we'll put you on. You know, there's an

1313
01:07:12.840 --> 01:07:16.360
act that's gonna be there this week. And then Raven

1314
01:07:16.559 --> 01:07:18.599
was going to be there on Thursday and we went

1315
01:07:18.679 --> 01:07:21.719
to see Raven in some club in you know, Arizona,

1316
01:07:22.079 --> 01:07:23.480
and I was like, I saw it on their tour

1317
01:07:23.559 --> 01:07:25.719
shirt Lincoln, Nebraska. I said, I'm gonna see you guys

1318
01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:27.920
on Thursday and Lincoln and they're like, no way, and

1319
01:07:28.199 --> 01:07:29.960
oh yeah. So we ended up hanging out with them,

1320
01:07:31.079 --> 01:07:32.599
but they were like, well, we'll give you passes to

1321
01:07:32.639 --> 01:07:35.800
Blueister Cult just because Okay, so we had three days

1322
01:07:35.960 --> 01:07:38.119
of we had we got to hang out, you know

1323
01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:43.000
with those guys, and then we did our show and

1324
01:07:43.039 --> 01:07:46.559
then Blowister Cult. So we're standing there right before sound

1325
01:07:46.639 --> 01:07:50.079
check and their advanced girl comes in and she goes, Okay,

1326
01:07:50.360 --> 01:07:53.159
everybody needs to put on their masks right now because

1327
01:07:53.199 --> 01:07:55.440
Blueister Cult's on their way in the building. And I

1328
01:07:55.559 --> 01:07:57.800
looked at the sound guy and I was like, well,

1329
01:07:57.880 --> 01:08:00.400
I guess they do fear their reaper then, and no

1330
01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:06.760
buddy laughed like I was like, really, come on, I mean.

1331
01:08:06.639 --> 01:08:10.599
I laughed instantly. That's like that's an opening. I take

1332
01:08:10.679 --> 01:08:11.239
that opening.

1333
01:08:11.480 --> 01:08:13.639
Well. Then Josh scared buck Derma. Later he tried to

1334
01:08:13.679 --> 01:08:14.800
hug him. I did.

1335
01:08:14.920 --> 01:08:17.279
I felt really bad about it. I have these little

1336
01:08:17.359 --> 01:08:19.800
moments where I realized that I'm standing next to a

1337
01:08:19.880 --> 01:08:23.159
person that was really crucial in my musical development. I'm like,

1338
01:08:23.199 --> 01:08:26.000
holy shit, and back then I didn't contain it as

1339
01:08:26.039 --> 01:08:29.680
well as I do now. But well, that's for a

1340
01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:31.039
different story time.

1341
01:08:32.800 --> 01:08:38.720
We could probably do that all day long. So if

1342
01:08:38.760 --> 01:08:43.000
people want more stories or more music, how did they

1343
01:08:43.159 --> 01:08:43.479
reach you?

1344
01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:43.840
Guys?

1345
01:08:43.960 --> 01:08:45.880
Connect them socials to web and all that.

1346
01:08:46.960 --> 01:08:53.479
Well, we have our own Facebook page. Just look up

1347
01:08:53.600 --> 01:08:56.000
ten cent Revenge. We're on Facebook. That's where we're kind

1348
01:08:56.000 --> 01:08:58.960
of mostly active. We have Twitter, Instagram, you know, the

1349
01:08:59.079 --> 01:09:02.000
usual social media. A lot of our stuff is on

1350
01:09:02.159 --> 01:09:04.840
our website too. We upload all of our videos there,

1351
01:09:05.600 --> 01:09:08.199
which I think you should check out our videos because

1352
01:09:08.199 --> 01:09:10.479
we try to be self deprecating.

1353
01:09:11.840 --> 01:09:14.760
I punched Josh on camera. We've gotten slapped on camera.

1354
01:09:14.920 --> 01:09:17.479
The singer pretty Boy Floyd through water at my face

1355
01:09:17.560 --> 01:09:18.000
one time.

1356
01:09:20.159 --> 01:09:22.520
I got into a fight with Stormtrooper out in the

1357
01:09:22.600 --> 01:09:27.439
crowd last night. I went up to him. I'm like

1358
01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:28.119
a fucker.

1359
01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:32.319
We always try to poke fund at ourselves. You know,

1360
01:09:32.439 --> 01:09:34.520
we take our music seriously, but we just don't take

1361
01:09:34.640 --> 01:09:36.640
the We don't take ourselves seriously.

1362
01:09:37.159 --> 01:09:38.239
I think that's the way to be.

1363
01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:40.199
We like to have a little bit of humor in there.

1364
01:09:40.760 --> 01:09:44.119
You should take the music seriously, but everything else not

1365
01:09:44.279 --> 01:09:47.720
so much. And I think, now, take the other side

1366
01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:50.119
of press. I see a lot of bands come through

1367
01:09:50.199 --> 01:09:53.920
press and they take it way too seriously, like you're

1368
01:09:54.000 --> 01:09:59.319
talking to him and it's like nothing like total And

1369
01:09:59.479 --> 01:10:03.000
even me, I'm like, like, we're doing this interview now,

1370
01:10:03.079 --> 01:10:05.920
can you believe it? An hour and ten minutes. It's

1371
01:10:06.039 --> 01:10:08.640
almost the longest I've ever done.

1372
01:10:08.760 --> 01:10:11.239
We're monopolizing the entire press booth.

1373
01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:15.880
Here, right, But like if there's something like that five minutes,

1374
01:10:15.920 --> 01:10:18.720
I'm like, yeah, I can't even handle this fucking shit anymore.

1375
01:10:19.199 --> 01:10:23.720
You know, it depends. That's why I think the conversations

1376
01:10:23.720 --> 01:10:26.760
are good, because it gets people to open up. You

1377
01:10:26.920 --> 01:10:30.319
find out more, and you're comfortable, you're not like stressing

1378
01:10:30.359 --> 01:10:35.560
out that to me, the worst part of a musician's

1379
01:10:35.720 --> 01:10:39.800
job is press, and not because it's press, but because

1380
01:10:39.800 --> 01:10:44.000
it's the business side of it and you're a fucking artist.

1381
01:10:44.159 --> 01:10:46.279
You don't want to do this business shit and walk

1382
01:10:46.319 --> 01:10:49.239
around to thirty people and answer the same fucking question

1383
01:10:49.399 --> 01:10:52.880
thirty times that you want to shoot yourself because you

1384
01:10:52.920 --> 01:10:55.000
didn't want to be here anyway type of thing.

1385
01:10:55.439 --> 01:10:57.720
No, I love doing these things, and that's the thing

1386
01:10:57.800 --> 01:10:59.760
that Josh and I kind of have a connection to

1387
01:10:59.760 --> 01:11:02.680
where we love all aspects of the business. We love

1388
01:11:02.760 --> 01:11:05.960
playing the shows. I love the travel. I mean literally,

1389
01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:09.319
yesterday we were on the road for fourteen hours just

1390
01:11:09.399 --> 01:11:11.840
to go to Nebraska is to be assholes.

1391
01:11:11.840 --> 01:11:13.399
That's why when you're looking at me, you're like, what

1392
01:11:13.560 --> 01:11:16.000
happened to this man? I've been on I've been drying

1393
01:11:16.039 --> 01:11:18.119
what twenty eight hours or something last two days?

1394
01:11:19.359 --> 01:11:23.199
Everything, you know, the interviews, the talking to people, And

1395
01:11:23.319 --> 01:11:25.239
that's why we were just talking about this yesterday. I

1396
01:11:25.319 --> 01:11:29.000
was like, we're so lucky that, you know, we could

1397
01:11:29.039 --> 01:11:32.039
be accountants, so we could be male carriers or whatever.

1398
01:11:32.760 --> 01:11:36.479
We are pretty and we get to see things that

1399
01:11:37.239 --> 01:11:39.680
nobody gets to see. And some of it's so weird

1400
01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:42.439
that people don't believe it. You know, you'll see stuff

1401
01:11:42.439 --> 01:11:43.319
that nobody gets to.

1402
01:11:43.319 --> 01:11:47.319
See, kind of like buses, boobs and buttles right right.

1403
01:11:47.359 --> 01:11:50.239
You know. But it's just you know, I love being

1404
01:11:50.279 --> 01:11:52.960
in the studio. I own a studio back home, you know,

1405
01:11:53.239 --> 01:11:54.880
I love it. I love every bit of it. I

1406
01:11:54.960 --> 01:11:56.920
love the writing press, I love hearing that. You know,

1407
01:11:57.039 --> 01:11:58.840
if there's never a dull moment in rock and roll,

1408
01:11:58.960 --> 01:12:00.880
there really isn't. I mean other than I guess if

1409
01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:02.720
you're driving, you know, twenty five hours.

1410
01:12:03.159 --> 01:12:05.119
But I got to see you're a true musician. That's

1411
01:12:05.159 --> 01:12:07.640
what that tells me, because there's other people that don't

1412
01:12:07.720 --> 01:12:10.800
think the same way, you know. And it's funny, like

1413
01:12:10.920 --> 01:12:14.560
my youngest daughter sometimes I'll bring her a festival and

1414
01:12:14.680 --> 01:12:17.399
after the first day, halfway through the first day, she's like,

1415
01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:20.279
I'm done. I don't know how you do this every weekend, dad,

1416
01:12:20.359 --> 01:12:23.840
because I'm fucking done already yet, Like I don't know

1417
01:12:23.960 --> 01:12:27.880
how I don't, Like I've said, like with Ozzy, I'm like,

1418
01:12:29.079 --> 01:12:32.239
he's gonna die if he doesn't tour anymore type of thing,

1419
01:12:32.399 --> 01:12:35.920
you know, because like that's his love, you know. And

1420
01:12:37.239 --> 01:12:40.279
I feel bad for him because it's like what must

1421
01:12:40.359 --> 01:12:43.560
be going through his mind right now that he can't gig,

1422
01:12:44.359 --> 01:12:49.039
you know, and who even fuddied be alive? I know,

1423
01:12:49.600 --> 01:12:53.520
like of all the people that should have been in

1424
01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:58.159
the twenty seven club, oh yeah, oh my god, oh yeah,

1425
01:12:58.640 --> 01:13:02.960
like ease proof that do whatever the fuck you cause

1426
01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:04.319
who knows what's gonna happen.

1427
01:13:04.560 --> 01:13:08.720
My favorite story is, yeah, we have the fortune of

1428
01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:13.600
being friends with Michael Bruce and Michael, he's just he's

1429
01:13:13.640 --> 01:13:16.279
the nicest, sweetest guy you'll ever meet, you know. And

1430
01:13:17.760 --> 01:13:19.720
and I Josh was talking to him one day and

1431
01:13:19.840 --> 01:13:21.760
he said something like, you know what, why'd you make

1432
01:13:21.840 --> 01:13:26.159
those decisions? You know when you're And Michael's literally like, Josh,

1433
01:13:26.199 --> 01:13:27.920
I didn't think i'd live this long, buddy, you know.

1434
01:13:28.359 --> 01:13:30.439
But we were sitting out at dinner one night and

1435
01:13:31.039 --> 01:13:33.880
I I would again, I'd walk in front of a

1436
01:13:33.920 --> 01:13:36.199
bus for Michael Bruce and his wife Lynette. They're just

1437
01:13:36.239 --> 01:13:39.439
beautiful people. And We're out at dinner one night and

1438
01:13:39.880 --> 01:13:42.000
Michael's like, hey, man, tell me a story, you know,

1439
01:13:42.119 --> 01:13:44.600
like and he's genuine like tell me. You're like, what

1440
01:13:44.880 --> 01:13:46.680
happened on the road with you? And I was like, oh,

1441
01:13:46.800 --> 01:13:49.119
this one time we stayed up past midnight, we had

1442
01:13:49.159 --> 01:13:51.840
some beers, and he goes, man, I can totally relate

1443
01:13:51.920 --> 01:13:54.199
because this one time I was hanging around with Jimmy Hendricks.

1444
01:13:54.399 --> 01:13:58.039
I'm like, Michael, shut the fuck up with the don't

1445
01:13:58.199 --> 01:14:00.399
do that to me. And he's like, yeah, we were

1446
01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:03.119
with this seance with the doors and I'm holding Jim

1447
01:14:03.159 --> 01:14:06.159
Morrison's hand and Jim's like, bro, you're really fucking weird.

1448
01:14:06.760 --> 01:14:08.880
And he goes, well, our record label said that the

1449
01:14:08.960 --> 01:14:11.439
doors were you guys were into the seance shit, and

1450
01:14:11.760 --> 01:14:14.279
Jim Morrison's like, no, they said, you guys are into

1451
01:14:14.319 --> 01:14:16.039
this shit. So they're all holding hands in a circle

1452
01:14:16.079 --> 01:14:17.840
with candles and shit. None of the wanted to be

1453
01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:20.760
there in the first place. And I'm like, Michael, don't

1454
01:14:20.880 --> 01:14:24.680
ask me about our little tiny stories and then you

1455
01:14:25.119 --> 01:14:27.720
just throw that on the table like see right. But

1456
01:14:27.840 --> 01:14:30.680
he doesn't do it to you know, like, oh, this

1457
01:14:30.800 --> 01:14:35.079
is what I did. He's genuinely like, man that like

1458
01:14:35.199 --> 01:14:36.319
this is cool, right, And.

1459
01:14:36.399 --> 01:14:40.600
I'm like, exactly, I can toy feel that because that's

1460
01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:44.479
toy me. It's like, like it was such an experience.

1461
01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:47.119
How could you not share these experiences?

1462
01:14:47.159 --> 01:14:49.560
That's the best Michael's stories. He hangs around with Michael

1463
01:14:49.760 --> 01:14:50.439
oh Man.

1464
01:14:50.560 --> 01:14:53.399
I love the guy to death man because he's no

1465
01:14:53.680 --> 01:14:54.399
pun intended.

1466
01:14:54.479 --> 01:14:57.520
But he's so.

1467
01:14:59.079 --> 01:15:01.840
Unaware of how famous the Alice Cooper band was back

1468
01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:05.000
in the early seventies, and so when I hear names

1469
01:15:05.079 --> 01:15:09.039
like Elton John or Ringo Star, I'm like blown away.

1470
01:15:09.079 --> 01:15:10.760
And he's like, oh, I used to just smoke weed

1471
01:15:10.840 --> 01:15:12.239
with these guys and we would just hang out like

1472
01:15:12.279 --> 01:15:15.239
that's an entirely different world to me, and so talking

1473
01:15:15.319 --> 01:15:18.079
to him is like getting a little glimpse into an

1474
01:15:18.159 --> 01:15:20.119
era of music history that I was obsessed with.

1475
01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:23.960
And I just think it's great he got thrown a

1476
01:15:24.159 --> 01:15:25.520
telling the Turtles story.

1477
01:15:26.279 --> 01:15:31.920
Oh so, the Turtles sixties band Michael used to tour

1478
01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:34.159
with back in the day. I thought it'd be a

1479
01:15:34.279 --> 01:15:36.920
nice gesture if I took Michael Bruce to see the Turtles,

1480
01:15:37.399 --> 01:15:39.640
because they're playing in town on like this Happy Together

1481
01:15:40.600 --> 01:15:44.119
reunion tour or something, and I didn't tell anybody I

1482
01:15:44.199 --> 01:15:47.079
was bringing the original guitar player from the Alice Cooper band,

1483
01:15:47.119 --> 01:15:50.600
and people don't recognize him as much when you see

1484
01:15:50.640 --> 01:15:53.399
him in person. But we get there and he's like,

1485
01:15:53.399 --> 01:15:55.000
all right, cool, I'll catch you guys later, and he

1486
01:15:55.199 --> 01:15:59.079
lifts up the security barrier and walks backstage. I'm like, well,

1487
01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:02.560
I probably should have alerted someone as to who this was.

1488
01:16:02.920 --> 01:16:05.000
And he comes back about fifteen minutes later, he's like,

1489
01:16:05.039 --> 01:16:07.520
all right, we gotta go, and he just left, and

1490
01:16:07.560 --> 01:16:09.159
I didn't see him like two or three days later.

1491
01:16:09.239 --> 01:16:10.520
I'm like, what in the hell. And so when I

1492
01:16:10.560 --> 01:16:13.000
finally talked to him, he's like, well, I walk back there,

1493
01:16:13.560 --> 01:16:15.720
and some security guy came up to me. He's like, hey,

1494
01:16:15.920 --> 01:16:17.159
what are you doing here? And he's like, oh, I

1495
01:16:17.239 --> 01:16:19.119
left my press badge at home. I'm sorry, and he's

1496
01:16:19.159 --> 01:16:21.760
like okay. Right on, he goes into the Turtles dressing

1497
01:16:21.840 --> 01:16:24.720
rooms eating their food and stuff, and another guy comes in.

1498
01:16:24.840 --> 01:16:27.279
He's like, what are you doing here, man? He's like, oh,

1499
01:16:27.479 --> 01:16:29.680
I'm doing a security check. I'm at corporate. He's like,

1500
01:16:29.760 --> 01:16:31.920
you're not our corporate guy for security. And he just

1501
01:16:32.039 --> 01:16:34.960
kept having these little interactions with people who had no

1502
01:16:35.119 --> 01:16:38.720
idea who he was. I just think that's the greatest thing.

1503
01:16:39.119 --> 01:16:43.479
What's so funny about that is thats my experience almost

1504
01:16:43.600 --> 01:16:47.119
every year at Rocklahoma with this dude. He might be

1505
01:16:47.199 --> 01:16:50.760
in here now, he keeps coming through Sean Nations. He's

1506
01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:53.560
in this van even in death. I interviewed him the

1507
01:16:53.640 --> 01:16:58.159
first year and then we've become friends. He just gets

1508
01:16:58.319 --> 01:17:02.159
anywhere in Rocklaholma. He gets everybody of these golf cart

1509
01:17:02.279 --> 01:17:04.680
drivers to get us a golf cart to go somewhere

1510
01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:10.720
and shit like that, and like he just knows everybody. Yeah,

1511
01:17:10.800 --> 01:17:14.039
and they all like like he's fucking Alice Cooper and

1512
01:17:14.039 --> 01:17:18.520
they're treating him like you know it it Sometimes some

1513
01:17:18.640 --> 01:17:21.479
people got it. They just got it, and it is

1514
01:17:21.560 --> 01:17:24.479
about just acting like, you know, like you belong, you know,

1515
01:17:24.840 --> 01:17:30.279
it's like, and don't be a dick. Like we get

1516
01:17:30.359 --> 01:17:34.199
punished media people because of idiot other media people. One time,

1517
01:17:34.680 --> 01:17:39.079
we're at another festival when the media people went backstage,

1518
01:17:39.840 --> 01:17:44.840
went into Rob Zombie's dressing room, didn't knock and asked

1519
01:17:44.880 --> 01:17:50.000
for an interview. Can you imagine doing that shit? And

1520
01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:52.359
then we all get punished for it. Okay, okay, you

1521
01:17:52.399 --> 01:17:55.760
guys can't go backstage anymore now, you know. It pisses

1522
01:17:55.840 --> 01:17:58.800
me off, you know, like, just be cool, just like

1523
01:17:58.880 --> 01:18:02.920
anybody that comes to work with me here, don't ask

1524
01:18:02.960 --> 01:18:06.039
for an autograph, don't ask for a selfie. This is

1525
01:18:06.119 --> 01:18:10.159
their safe zone. We're here to work. And it happens

1526
01:18:10.199 --> 01:18:14.880
a lot like so Zach Wilde. He's so nice and

1527
01:18:15.039 --> 01:18:16.840
he comes in to the intent and all met and

1528
01:18:16.880 --> 01:18:20.119
people are crying around his autograph and selfies and shit,

1529
01:18:20.399 --> 01:18:23.640
and store managers finally say come on, guys, saying a

1530
01:18:23.720 --> 01:18:26.960
fucking meet and greet. We're working here. And one time

1531
01:18:27.399 --> 01:18:31.640
Phil from Pan Terror, who I'm friends with, he's back

1532
01:18:31.720 --> 01:18:33.800
there and people are doing something he's also nice guy.

1533
01:18:33.880 --> 01:18:36.079
I'm friends with his wife. His wife pulls me aside, like,

1534
01:18:37.199 --> 01:18:40.640
can you please talk to him? Because he will never leave.

1535
01:18:40.720 --> 01:18:43.039
He's too nice to these people. So I go up

1536
01:18:43.079 --> 01:18:46.359
to him and whispers here, I'm like, your wife's getting pissed,

1537
01:18:47.119 --> 01:18:50.880
you need to go, and then he whispers back to

1538
01:18:50.960 --> 01:18:55.399
me in my ear he goes, man, my fucker shit

1539
01:18:55.600 --> 01:19:01.279
shocked tonight. Yeah, will come up to me afterwards. And

1540
01:19:01.359 --> 01:19:03.960
this is so how they are the fanboy and a

1541
01:19:04.039 --> 01:19:07.439
fig girl. What do you say to him? Why do

1542
01:19:07.479 --> 01:19:10.279
you say? You know your fucking business?

1543
01:19:10.720 --> 01:19:10.880
You know.

1544
01:19:11.079 --> 01:19:13.680
But it's like, if you're gonna act like that, of

1545
01:19:13.760 --> 01:19:15.640
course they're not gonna want to do interviews with you.

1546
01:19:16.079 --> 01:19:17.800
Of course they're not gonna want to come in here,

1547
01:19:18.319 --> 01:19:19.960
and you're gonna screw it for everybody else.

1548
01:19:20.279 --> 01:19:20.479
You know.

1549
01:19:20.960 --> 01:19:23.000
It's like you just kind of know how to act.

1550
01:19:23.840 --> 01:19:26.760
Slip Knot one of my favorite bands ever. What's so

1551
01:19:27.000 --> 01:19:32.560
fucking weird? I've never interviewed Corey. I've interviewed his wife

1552
01:19:32.640 --> 01:19:36.079
several times. Friendly. She's cool as shit. But I'm also

1553
01:19:36.159 --> 01:19:39.239
in type of other people like ask go to her

1554
01:19:39.359 --> 01:19:42.319
to connect to Corey. I won't fucking do that. She

1555
01:19:42.720 --> 01:19:45.279
wants to get her own promotion. She wants to go

1556
01:19:45.399 --> 01:19:48.520
on her own two feet, and that's a dick move

1557
01:19:48.840 --> 01:19:52.279
to use her to get to Corey. I've also interviewed Griffin,

1558
01:19:52.640 --> 01:19:59.119
who's playing today, you know vend and one time I

1559
01:19:59.279 --> 01:20:01.840
did have a chance to interview Corey, who was that

1560
01:20:02.039 --> 01:20:06.039
rock on the range. Tour manager comes out, We're bringing

1561
01:20:06.119 --> 01:20:09.000
Corey out to you in five minutes. Two minutes later

1562
01:20:09.079 --> 01:20:13.359
a tornado hit and we were evacuated, you know, And

1563
01:20:13.680 --> 01:20:16.880
that was my only chance. But I did have a

1564
01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:20.039
chance to hang out and talk to Corey. Way before that,

1565
01:20:20.399 --> 01:20:23.560
I was interviewing Roy Mayorga on the tour bus. I

1566
01:20:23.640 --> 01:20:26.039
get off the tour bus, I go send the curb.

1567
01:20:26.079 --> 01:20:30.359
I'm smoking a cigarette and this dude walks over, sits down,

1568
01:20:30.800 --> 01:20:33.760
starts talking to me, talk about the weather and Georgia

1569
01:20:33.880 --> 01:20:36.880
the night before. You're a band, you understand, like this

1570
01:20:37.039 --> 01:20:39.760
is what you talk about like. People don't understand. They

1571
01:20:39.800 --> 01:20:43.039
think it's like some big in depth conversations. It's shit

1572
01:20:43.199 --> 01:20:47.640
like that. And I knew who I was talking to,

1573
01:20:47.760 --> 01:20:51.279
but I pretended like I didn't, and we just sat

1574
01:20:51.359 --> 01:20:54.319
and talked for like a half an hour and never

1575
01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:59.239
did I acknowledge ever again that I knew who he was,

1576
01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:03.119
had that one time, and then it was really hot

1577
01:21:04.319 --> 01:21:07.279
and he was getting on stage and he's coming off

1578
01:21:07.319 --> 01:21:09.239
stage on cider and he looks at me and he's like,

1579
01:21:09.399 --> 01:21:13.920
it's fucking hot here, you know. And but the reason

1580
01:21:14.039 --> 01:21:18.039
he did that is because I didn't acknowledge who he was.

1581
01:21:18.159 --> 01:21:21.119
I just had a conversation with him. That's it. And

1582
01:21:21.199 --> 01:21:24.079
that's the way you should act, you know, because listen,

1583
01:21:24.520 --> 01:21:27.800
when you're an artist, you kind of want to escape

1584
01:21:27.840 --> 01:21:30.199
that ship sometimes. And I always say, this is the

1585
01:21:30.399 --> 01:21:33.880
artist's safe zone. We're in the safe zone. They want

1586
01:21:33.920 --> 01:21:36.159
that shit, they're going to go out there, you know,

1587
01:21:36.840 --> 01:21:38.199
and so you just gotta be cool.

1588
01:21:38.640 --> 01:21:41.399
And I like it. At some points, you know, there's

1589
01:21:41.399 --> 01:21:43.000
a time and a place. Yeah, at the time that

1590
01:21:43.039 --> 01:21:44.720
I like to go out. I love to talk to people.

1591
01:21:44.800 --> 01:21:47.039
I love to meet people, you know, love.

1592
01:21:46.920 --> 01:21:49.439
To hear their stories when it's the right time, right.

1593
01:21:49.520 --> 01:21:52.640
But there's times that you know, like when you're eating

1594
01:21:53.319 --> 01:21:56.000
or when you're perfect example, you know, And I don't

1595
01:21:56.039 --> 01:22:00.199
have fanboys. I had one. This guy figured out my

1596
01:22:00.279 --> 01:22:03.920
address somehow. Oh yeah, I know at my house, Like,

1597
01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:05.840
hey man, about this base you think it's cool, and

1598
01:22:05.920 --> 01:22:07.920
I'm like, I'm mowing my lawn, Like, what the fuck

1599
01:22:07.920 --> 01:22:08.520
are you doing here?

1600
01:22:08.640 --> 01:22:08.760
Man?

1601
01:22:08.840 --> 01:22:10.760
You know, I use a nice dude. Or he called

1602
01:22:10.800 --> 01:22:12.720
me in the middle of the night, like, bro, what

1603
01:22:12.720 --> 01:22:15.000
are you doing right now? It's two thirty. I gotta

1604
01:22:15.039 --> 01:22:18.640
go to work the next day, and I'm like, yeah, dude,

1605
01:22:18.760 --> 01:22:21.680
we're just hanging men, we're partying, we're writing the new album. Man,

1606
01:22:21.720 --> 01:22:23.399
I'll talk to you soon, all right, brother. And my

1607
01:22:23.479 --> 01:22:26.479
wife's like, why do you do that? Just tell him

1608
01:22:26.479 --> 01:22:29.359
to fuck off? And I was like, because he's living

1609
01:22:29.439 --> 01:22:32.239
through me. He is so excited that, like he's probably

1610
01:22:32.239 --> 01:22:33.760
sit there with his buddy's going I'm gonna call him.

1611
01:22:33.960 --> 01:22:36.279
And I was a nobod. I'm still a nobody, you know,

1612
01:22:36.439 --> 01:22:38.920
but it was just I get that little. I couldn't

1613
01:22:38.920 --> 01:22:42.960
imagine being on that level. That would drive me, but

1614
01:22:43.159 --> 01:22:45.000
I don't know how I would handle it, you know.

1615
01:22:45.079 --> 01:22:47.319
I try to be really cool and I love everybody,

1616
01:22:47.439 --> 01:22:50.600
but I understand those guys. So when I see them,

1617
01:22:51.199 --> 01:22:53.600
you know, nowadays, I'm just like I wave or it's

1618
01:22:53.720 --> 01:22:55.479
just like, you know, usually we're working together.

1619
01:22:55.640 --> 01:22:59.880
Well, Alicia has told me the people Corey likes best

1620
01:23:00.439 --> 01:23:02.600
or the people that walk by and say, hey, what's up,

1621
01:23:02.640 --> 01:23:03.600
dude and keep walking.

1622
01:23:04.600 --> 01:23:06.199
Yeah, and that's the.

1623
01:23:06.199 --> 01:23:07.720
Way it should be. If they want to talk to you,

1624
01:23:07.840 --> 01:23:10.319
they'll talk to you. Or if there really are your friend,

1625
01:23:10.880 --> 01:23:13.520
then you'll hang on talk, you know. And it's not

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people think they're being assholes, are unapproachable. No, they're cool

1627
01:23:17.439 --> 01:23:20.960
as shit, but they need their downtime. They need like

1628
01:23:21.439 --> 01:23:24.000
especially you gonna go hit them up right after they

1629
01:23:24.159 --> 01:23:26.239
just got off fucking stage and they just want to

1630
01:23:26.359 --> 01:23:30.680
chill out for a few minutes. I have some respect,

1631
01:23:31.439 --> 01:23:34.800
you know, Like even in doing interviews, I find no

1632
01:23:34.920 --> 01:23:37.760
a band just got off stage and they come up

1633
01:23:37.800 --> 01:23:39.880
and I see that, like, like, if you need to

1634
01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:44.079
chill for a few minutes, just chill, you know, because

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01:23:44.399 --> 01:23:46.439
you gotta get like put yourself.

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01:23:46.119 --> 01:23:47.720
In their shoes, you know.

1637
01:23:48.319 --> 01:23:52.399
And there are, unfortunately, because of the Internet and social media,

1638
01:23:52.520 --> 01:23:55.319
are two main press people that are not press people.

1639
01:23:55.880 --> 01:23:58.439
They're just fanboys fangirls and they figure it out way

1640
01:23:59.319 --> 01:24:03.960
the monopoly on that. So, but you guys are fucking badass,

1641
01:24:04.840 --> 01:24:08.439
And uh, what what do you want to tell people

1642
01:24:08.479 --> 01:24:10.920
about your band that we haven't covered because we covered

1643
01:24:11.039 --> 01:24:14.800
just about every fucking thing else. Josh has a third nipple.

1644
01:24:15.600 --> 01:24:18.840
Nice is it? Is it like and Chandler Bank.

1645
01:24:18.920 --> 01:24:21.039
Well, you can find out at the what is It

1646
01:24:21.159 --> 01:24:25.840
Bus Boobs and Buttholes rally tonight. You'll see for yourself.

1647
01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:30.319
Josh is going viral tonight.

1648
01:24:30.520 --> 01:24:32.960
Oh that not the only thing going viral tonight.

1649
01:24:33.239 --> 01:24:35.079
I think that's like the best way to end an

1650
01:24:35.159 --> 01:24:40.319
interview right there. So check them out. They might I

1651
01:24:40.640 --> 01:24:43.520
can't guarantee they might do a live performance at the

1652
01:24:43.600 --> 01:24:45.840
Bus Boobs and Buttholes.

1653
01:24:45.800 --> 01:24:50.640
Bus No instruments acapella.

1654
01:24:50.920 --> 01:24:53.800
Acapella with kazoos.

1655
01:24:54.479 --> 01:24:56.520
The color of the two flute dudes.

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Catch us, I love it. That might get us canceled, though. Well,

1657
01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:07.039
thanks a lot guys for being here at Oklahoma, and

1658
01:25:07.159 --> 01:25:08.920
thanks for being on the Adventures of Pipe Man.

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01:25:09.159 --> 01:25:14.960
Absolutely absolutely thank you for listening to the Adventures of

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Patement on w for CUI Radio.