June 16, 2025

PipemanRadio Interviews Vowws at Download Festival 2025

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PipemanRadio Interviews Vowws at Download Festival 2025

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Hey, you love then too?

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Yes, that's true for.

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Why for you young?

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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe

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Man W four c Y Radio and I'm here.

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With Matt and Riz from vows.

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Nice here at Download Festival. Now.

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I gotta tell you, I was really impressed because I

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was at your set and you were competing with Orbit

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Culture and Archers and you still had a badass amount

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of people there. Like, did that like shock you a

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little bit that you have two other bands you're competing

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at and you still had a huge crowd.

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Yeah, I mean we've gotten a little bit used to that.

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Over the course of the festivals. There seems to always

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be a bunch of curious people. I think they're people

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that are starting to find out about us. But also

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it feels like people are into finding out about new music.

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That's good, right, And what I liked about is you're unique,

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which is hard to find nowadays. I do festivals all

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over to you as UK Europe, and it's like nowadays,

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a lot of bands they use like this formula to

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write their music and let's all sound like this microcosm

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of a genre.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, And you guys reminded me of like old school.

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Yeah, we think old school, Like there's a lot of

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bands that they copy the same plugins as other bands,

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and we just try and do music that is as

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timeless as we can make it, and that just is

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what it is. We try not to fit into a

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particular genre.

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Yeah. Sometimes it's like something starts to work, right, that's

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getting traction, and people are like, oh, we should do that. Yeah,

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you know, it's like what if it sucks?

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Right, No, and you have to have your own sound.

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There's too many bands out there nowadays. You could get

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lost in the sea. Back in like the eighties, nobody

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sounds the same because there were only a handful of bands,

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so how could you copy the other ones.

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We were in a hotel room last night watching a documentary,

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like British documentaries about music in the eighties. They're kind

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of cooler, I suppose, because Britain had such a diverse

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weird scene in the eighties.

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It did, and it was all about that.

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It was like there was one band that would do

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one thing and then right next to them in the

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same like quote unquote genre, they're doing completely different shit.

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Right. It was so diverse, Like.

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I don't even know if you know the band Striper.

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They were like this Christian heavy metal band back in

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the eighties, and I was at a gig where they

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were the opening band for Slayer.

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Yeah right, it's amazing, that's like, and that's kind of

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how it was, like Slayer and Metallica left LA to

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go to the Bay Area because they were the only

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ones like that, so they couldn't play with anybody except hairbands.

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We it might not be exactly the case now, but

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we always used to say we're too we're too dark

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for the mainstream, like for the normal people, a little

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bit too normal for like the all the super gothic

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straight whatever, you know, Like we are our own thing

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and whatever the hell that means, for better or worse.

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I get it though, after seeing you, like, I think

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it's a whole different level. Let's see somebody live a

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postal listener music, because I think you get the band

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a lot more and exactly what you said, it's exactly

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what I was seeing it was because and then when

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your voice came, I'm like, oh, that reminds me of

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the eighties, but like the gothics type of stuff in

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the eighties, not the gothic now.

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Yeah, exactly, and gothic stuff in the eighties was I've

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said it before, but it's like more it was more diverse.

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There was there's the goth scene today. I don't it's

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hard to explain it exactly what's what what I'm thinking,

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but it just feels a little.

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Bit more like it's copying.

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They're all copying each other. I call it like an

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algebraic equation. They used to make their music, you know,

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instead of like the eighties bands, they didn't know what

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the hell they were doing and they had nobody to

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copy from.

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Except they generally tried to write good songs, right, or

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good pieces of music whatever, like whether it's songs quote unquote,

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all pieces of music. They were trying to do good stuff.

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The creativity, that's what I think it comes down to

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it at the end of the day, Like whatever style, genre,

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or you want to use to color and present your

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music can change, but it has the writing has to

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be good.

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Well, they say, like in all the punk bands that

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I ever interviewed, they're always like talking about the Descendants

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and their songwriting. Like no, they all say, none of

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us could write songs like the Descendants. So it's that

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that same thing you do. It has to be a

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good song, you write creative good song for it to last.

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Absolutely yeah, because otherwise we don't. You know, we don't

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listen to any one genre. We don't necessarily listen to

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goth music, right, We don't really listen to you know

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what I mean. We mainly listened to like film scores,

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which I'm not trying to sound pretensions and be like,

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but it's there's, there's, it's it's just so writing and

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emotion heavy because they're they're putting music to a pre

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existing emotion and it's pretty specific. So when you're sitting

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there and you're listening to that, you're sort of taken

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on this emotional journey and that's where the writing begins.

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That's the way music should be though, because listen, music's

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the best therapy there.

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Is, absolutely yeah.

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And it has to have emotion in it, and it

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has to have passion in it, or else it's not

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going to hit here. You know, what was that one

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moment in time in your life that you decide this

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is what you need to do and nothing else.

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I don't. For me, it wasn't.

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I don't think it was conscious necessarily. It was just

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like the way I was and the things I was

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drawn to and even as like a child, I'd get

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hooked on like the TV theme intro for some cartoon

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because it was really pretty, and I'd be it would

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change me somehow. Yeah, and that that that feeling was

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like I'm still chasing it or I'm still like a choice,

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like oh, I want to do music because my dad

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plays a guitar. Like nothing like that. It was just

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this thing that, yes, this chemical thing that started to happen,

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and I just kept following it and following it and

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couldn't wait to finish high school and get to college

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and study it and then meet people like Matt and

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just like kind of just forever where life is.

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It's not a choice.

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Rightly, I don't even fucking like doing this anymore. But

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I don't have a choice.

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That's so funny, you know, of course.

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And you know what, it's funny that you said about

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meeting in college because I find some of the best

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artists I've found out there that's where they met in college.

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Because I think you're at a different mentality level.

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Then there's like between the ages of like I don't

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know what it is, like sixteen and twenty four or

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something like, there's that period where everything in your life

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is new and fresh, and you're you're curious and you

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want to explore whatever the hell's going on around you.

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That's like the music that I discovered then is still

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really important to me. And I think it's that like

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when you're doing things like the future is hopeful and

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wide open and all that shit.

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Totally totally tell you something funny when you start smoking

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a cigarette on stage. Nicole over here, I'm going to

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smoke with her.

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Solidarity.

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It's kind of funny. Dream Sorry, go ahead go.

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When I get rich, I want to start a smoker's airline,

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like an airline I usually smoke on is allowed to smoke.

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That would be so cool.

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Don't book it, but all the smokers will be having

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the best time, right because airport, even if it's like

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if we're going LA to New York, we live in LA,

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that's at least five hours airtime plus at least like

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an hour on either side of just so try to

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get a smoker to not have a cigarette for eight hours,

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like I'll, oh bazillionaire if I.

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Started, You're gonna have to bribe the shit out of

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the FAA.

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Whatever. It's fun.

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I remember smoking on planes and it's like, it does suck.

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That flight from New York to LA without cigarette. Oh

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my god.

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If I go without a drink, I'm.

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Right, you can get that on a plane seat.

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You can still get it. So say that about since

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you guys are from LA. My dad moved me to

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LA from New Jersey in nineteen eighty. If you could

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imagine the perfect time to move La. Okay, And funny enough,

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you were mentioning about what we were talking about.

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What was that moment for you? For me?

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I was always into music since I was like real little,

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but the moment it really was like, oh my god,

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this is just me. Was my first club show at

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the Roxy and it was Motley Crue before they got

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an album. They weren't glam, they were horror punk and

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they were trying to light the whole Roxy on fire

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and bring Satan and I'm like, I'm never going to

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another real concert again.

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And that started me being.

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At clubs every Friday and Saturday night, whether it was

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on the Strip or the Troubadour and the country Club

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in Resita, which is even their anymore. That was iconic

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and you know, it was what a scene.

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Sorry, it got.

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Its clausing, didn't you. That was the moment what it

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got its clause in and it never let go.

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Oh it was like just before that, I liked music,

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but then it was like, oh my god, I just

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liked the whole scene.

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But LA in the eighties was something else.

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Though, right unbelieving.

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I was at Slayers for show ever, Metallica's first show ever.

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And you would go to a Metallica show and there'd

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be like twenty five of us and we'd all go

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over to our house and party all night long. Or

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I remember the last time I was at the Rainbow.

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I'm like, I'm thinking about it. I'm like, how did

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I get in this place at fourteen years old?

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Oh?

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I walked in with Motley Crue and I'm hanging out

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with Lemmy at fourteen at the Rainbow. It's like just

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so wild to and the memories I have, at least

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the ones you remember.

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Yeah, because they say best ones are the ones that, Yeah.

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They say, if you if you can remember the eighties,

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you weren't on the Sunset Strip, you weren't there exactly.

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So here's my battle vest from the eighties.

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Fucky before they made these pre made shit.

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Yeah, Okay, this is real.

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This is all my drawing on. It didn't listen to

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I don't think as much.

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Right, they didn't even have a Slayer patch yet. So

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I just did this and in LA they thought I

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was a gang banger and that was my gang name,

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and like bands that look at this Slayer, this is

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beautiful and this Like Winston from Parkway Drive was like,

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when did they have a logo like that?

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They never were a devil band.

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You could probably sell that for a lot of money.

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Oh, Winston said, you could put it on eBay for

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five grand and get it.

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Yeah, fuck that, I want it now.

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That's now you'll see the other history because that's the

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that's the mosh pitch side.

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Look at those patches, they're coming off.

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I don't think it's part for anymore.

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And there's blood rest there's blood on.

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Here from when I climbed up on Marshall Stack did

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a swan dive, crowd moved t first linoleum floor.

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I swear I've sent a YouTube video of you somewhere

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doing that.

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I'm sure you did, because it is the band that

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happened with I. I've been friends with since then. And

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he was like, that was the most tragic thing that

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ever happened in La Metal He goes.

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I felt so bad.

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It's why I don't do shit like that.

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I won't anymore.

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I won't crowds. I'll go in the pit because I'm

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in control. Yeah, I won't CrowdSurf. I won't stage dive.

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I don't trust these motherfuckers a bit to do.

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That is like a trustful You can't even do.

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It now, like they have it all way out here,

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like you'd have to be a super diver to get

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out to the crowd.

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And then if they don't catch you, you're really fucked,

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probably die because you dove so hard.

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Yeah, totally, you would hit that fence and snap your

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neck or whatever. Tell everybody how they can reach out

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to you guys on socials, on the web, check out

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your tour dates, music, and most importantly, buy your merch

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because if they don't buy your merch, they can't listen

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to my show, because that's the only way you survive.

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It's all vowsband dot com, just a band name, band

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dot com.

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Make sure they know it's not just one.

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W two w's, because there's two of us. That's how

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we came to that decision. So vows with two w's.

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Gee, I didn't even have to ask that question, which

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I never would I would never asks.

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Or how did you get your band name? Stupidest ever?

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There is no why. We just came up with it.

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That doesn't matter.

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It just doesn't matter.

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It doesn't like I don't get why press people ask

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that question.

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It's like that.

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All my friends are band members are like, it's a

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fucking question.

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We hate the most. It's the stupidest question.

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It's like, it doesn't matter and you could have just

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come up with it in the kitchen one day.

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Yeah, it's a.

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Sick band name, like I don't know, something really out

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there that you're like, I don't know, like anal cunt.

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How about this one?

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Do you remember there was a there was a punk

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band in La called Gay Bikers on Acid?

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Did you go? Now you can ask you about that one.

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Right, that's great, Like that's a great.

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Rudd ask why or you just say that's amazing? Right,

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That's all I would say.

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Any final words for our listeners.

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No, it's a pleasure to talk to you, and I

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really want to do album.

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Coming out on October twenty fourth.

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Good for my birthday because I'm October eleventh, So.

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By the album.

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Yes, for sure.

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Do you guys play the US festivals because I do

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all the US festivals.

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Not this year.

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We're sort of like still sort of working on album stuff,

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you know, putting the release out. Would you we're pretty

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diy would you all the visuals and the artwork and

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everything ourselves.

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We'd like to do it.

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Yeah, we're going to do that and then we're gonna

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play some more nice.

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Next year is the next year.

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Let's do it. Hopefully I'll see that at one of those.

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Hell yeah, Thank you so much.

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Thank you for.

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Being here a download and on the Adventures of pipe Man.

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Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Patement on

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w for CUI Radio.

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