March 19, 2025

PipemanRadio & Keith Roth Talk New Solo Album, Dictators, SiriusXM, Podcast

Pipeman has a great discussion with an amazing musician, song writer, radio personality, and all-around cool Jersey dude Keith Roth.  

Keith Roth is the Lead singer and guitarist with The Dictators and Frankenstein 3000. He is a a veteran musician...

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Pipeman has a great discussion with an amazing musician, song writer, radio personality, and all-around cool Jersey dude Keith Roth.

Keith Roth is the Lead singer and guitarist with The Dictators and Frankenstein 3000. He is a a veteran musician and song writer for more than 35 years, performed on over 50 albums, played with the David Johansen Group, Earl Slick, Sylvain Sylvain, Cheetah Chrome, Punky Meadows many other Rock Icons. You might know Keith as Sirius XM host of Ozzy’s Boneyard ,Hair Nation producing & David Johansen’s Mansion of Fun for over 20 years. You might also know Roth produced and hosted the critically acclaimed Electric Ballroom Radio Show for 25 years. Keith Roth and Comedian Don Jamieson Host a weekly podcast called Rock Strap where musicians talk sports, athletes, music. Keith also starred in the award-winning film Let me Down Hard in 2016. Winner of Asbury Park Film Festival and Garden State Film Festival.

Well, Keith Roth is set to release his first ever solo album The Law Of Diminished Returns on March 21st through Deko Entertainment. The first single from the album “I Don’t Feel Like Thinking Today!” was released on December 6th and immediately caught the attention of rock fans and critics alike. Now he is breaking out the bell bottoms and going full on retro with a cover of the Curtis Mayfield song “Superfly”.

The Law Of Diminished Returns contains and elegant mix of 11 songs covering many feels and grooves and features guest appearances by former Blue Oyster Cult drummer Albert Bouchard, Monster Magnet drummer Bob Pantella, Angel guitarist Punky Meadows, and Dictators/Manowar guitarist Ross the Boss. It is available on CD and Limited-Edition Blue Vinyl.

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OZZY'S Boneyard,Hair Nation,
David Johansen's Mansion Of Fun ,
The Dictators,
https://www.thedictators.com/

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Frankenstein 3000,
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www.frankenstein3000.com
www.mainmanrecords.com

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You call it.

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Your munching back. This is the pipe Man here on

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the Adventures pipe Man W four c Y Radio. And

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I'm really about our next guest because I hate to

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mention this concidering. I own a radio station and I'm

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on my own radio station, but I listen to him

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all the time. I'm serious XM because he's a he's

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bad ass, but he's also a badass musician and like

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he brought me back to my childhood with this new

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single we have, and so we're going to talk about

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it a little bit. So let's welcome to his show.

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Keith Roth.

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How are you, pipe Man? Good to see you man,

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Good to catch up with you again, I mean absolutely,

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and thank you. How'd you like the single? Man?

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Oh? You know, it's funny because as somebody like in

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all the stages of rock music, I've I've pretty much

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hit most of them, being you know, born in the sixties,

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you know, I got the sixties and seventies, the eighties

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and all the way till now. And man, Superfly, I

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mean that just the minute I saw I didn't even

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see your name first in the press release. I just

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saw that, and I'm like, now that's in there view

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I have to do.

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I'm glad you did it. I'm glad we did that

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song because you know, I started writing songs which eventually

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turned into this album, and we were working with Bob

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Pantella from Monster Magnet, Atomic Bitch Wax. We always did

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a lot of recording out of his studios, Freak Shop Studios,

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which is like being on a galactic spaceship. But you know,

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I always loved the song, and you know, I had

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a lot of different people play on this, and I said,

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I always wanted to cover Superfly. I love Curtis Mayfield,

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I love the film. I love that whole seventies genre.

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And we just started jamming on it, and you know,

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Bob laying down that groove and we kind of tracked

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it really quickly, and then when he started adding all

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the percussion in there, and then he's like, all right, man,

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you should really like go for it with the vocal.

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And then all of a sudden, I'm listening to a

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rough mix. I'm like, this is on the fucking album.

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You know this? And you know, because I love Curtis,

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he's been embedded in me and you know, so I'm

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really happy the way the single came. I mean a

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lot of people are like, why are you going to

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release a cover song for your second single? Because it

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fits the theme of the album, and it's you know,

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it's a as you said, you know, the sixties, the seventies,

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the eighties, the nineties. You know, I love all kinds

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of music, and I've always, you know, loved all kinds

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of music. So I think a lot of a lot

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of different influences are all over this record.

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I think that's a cool thing about growing through all

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these decades that really are like, we're rock evolved over

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the years because we got a taste of like just

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about every bit of it, where I think sometimes people

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today may not have that taste. I've actually talked to

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people at festivals that don't even know who led Zeppelin is,

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Like stuff like that or the Beatles, like, you know, crazy.

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It just blows my mind because it's funny. You take

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Ozzy as an example, since you're on Azzy's Boneyard. Ozzy

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is Ozzy because of the Beatles, no.

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Doubt, no doubt. If you talk to Ozzy about the Beatles, now,

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he's interested now right, and he gets excited and he

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gets just like, oh, you know, did you hear this record?

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And he gets you know, I mean talking about himself.

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He does it all day, every day. But when you

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mentioned the Beatles and you say something really interesting that

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inspires him, it's a whole different guy and everything making sense,

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you know. So yeah, right, exactly. It's funny because my

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neighborhood is kind of like that seventies show, you know,

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so like all the kids in my neighborhood, you know,

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they're like fifteen sixteen, their hairs some of them are

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hair down here, and they're walking the streets with boomboxes

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with their Led Zeppelin Pink Floyd shirts. And I'm like,

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right on, man, this is great. They got to a generation,

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you know, and especially with the Zeppelin film. But that's crazy.

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If you play music or you're going to a festival

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and you don't know how led Zeppelin is. You should

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be escorted out of there.

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I know, right, it's wild to me. But then there's

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the other side, like your mentioning it's wild. I'll go

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to the festivals. I'll see kids with like Misfit shirts

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on or a pink Floyd shirt on, and I'm like,

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and they're not just wearing it to wear it because

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it looks cool. They actually know the music. And see,

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that's cool to me too. Is like you go to

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a show now or a festival, Like in the eighties,

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I would go to these shows and we were the

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same age as the bands, and there was nobody older

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than us there, you know, right, And now you see.

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We're still younger. We're still the youngest people there, right.

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And now you see these kids that are going to

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Metallica shows, and I'm thinking to myself, that's bad ass,

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because when I was their age, there was no way

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I was going to see a band that was in

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their sixties or fifties.

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That's true. And you know we were talking earlier about

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you know, you see a Metallica out in the bay

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and I saw them first time, and you know, I know,

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you're a Jersey guy, originally. So the first time I

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saw them was playing a roller skating rink and an

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old bridge on Route nine with Raven and you saw

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them out in the bay and it was like, I mean,

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it's cool, and it was a DIY scene that was happening.

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And I have older brothers that got to see the

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dolls at Mercer Art Center, and so I felt like

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this was like a cool little revolution. But that my

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wildest imagination that I ever think that Metallica would become

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the next led Zeppelin. And now you see all these

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kids and they go there with their parents and it's like,

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you know, it's all ages and it's cool. You know.

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Also with vinyl, you know, we grew up in that

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vinyl era, right. I love the fact that vinyl has

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kind of saved the record industry. Sure, a lot of

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it is reissues, but the younger kids that I talked

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to or come out to shows, if they don't have

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it on vinyl, they don't own it. They have streaming

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services to see if they're actually going to buy the record,

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which is kind of cool because we used to trade

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cassette tapes, which is really that different. You know, I

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could make you a tape of a record I just bought.

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You throw it in your car, you can listen to

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on your stereo. It's a little bit longer to access it.

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But now I love the fact that vinyl, you know,

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is resurrected and the beauty of when we were kids

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with bodyl you'd sit there, you read the liner notes.

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You knew who every producer was, who mastered stuff, and

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so it's good that that kind of infected another generation

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of format that we thought was long dead. Is really

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the main thing that's keeping the industry alive, you know. Yeah,

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I also have ADHD. So if I went on a

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whole different tangent, I do apologize.

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Oh man, I love that because on my show I

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always go on different tangent. It doesn't matter. Like if

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you pick up something, I'm like, oh, I'm going to

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run with that, you know. I think that's the way

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radio should be anyway, you know, like especially in this arena,

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you know, it should be just like, let it take

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a life of its own.

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Mm hm.

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Basically there comes down and yeah. So my first album ever,

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here's an interesting story. My first album ever I won

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at the boardwalk in Seaside Heights.

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I've heard a lot of people say that, So that's cool.

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What did you win?

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So I saw this album up there, I was like, man,

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those fucking dudes look cool. And it was the Kiss

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original album when it first came out.

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My buddy Sean, Sean Mars, he plays in a band, Mars,

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the same exact thing. He won the record at Seaside

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Heights on the Boardwalk and it was the first Kiss record.

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That's amazing, actually right, how cool is that? Oh?

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Yeah?

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And I became a total Kiss freak in that after

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night and we were talking about the Beatles first grade.

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This dude did an oral report on the Beatles and

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I was like, oh, and then maybe I became like

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I had put wall the wall posters in my bedroom.

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But I was like kind of like, I don't know,

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schizophrenk or something, because one half was totally Kiss and

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the other half was totally the Beatles. And I always

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talk to people about how those two bands. People think

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that they're not related, talking about influences and where people

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I found them to be so similar, like and I

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tell people and they I didn't think of that, you

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know how? Like on every song that John and Paul wrote,

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it was John Paul on every song that Gene and

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Paul wrote it was Gene Paul and whoever wrote the

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songs would sing the songs, you know, and stuff like that.

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There were so many similarities and I think that all

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holds to the evolution to where we are today.

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I agree. And the other thing about the Beatles and

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Kiss is that you know each guy as you say,

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and sing songs. But also everybody knew all four members.

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As a Kiss fan, you knew all four. You knew Gene, Paul,

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Peter and Ace, and you know, you know John, Paul,

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George and Ringo. I mean all four characters. You know

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a lot of people with Led Zeppelin, Yellow No, Robert Planner,

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Jimmy Page, some may not know John, Paul Jones and right,

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but I mean with those two there was a lot

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of similarities. And of course, you know the Kiss being

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huge Beatle freaks.

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I mean, you know exactly there again, you know, and

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so it's kind of cold and speaking's go. Years later,

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I had a history class and I only had one project.

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It was an oral report I did on Ozzy.

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Wax Sabbath.

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Right, I know Ozzy. It was like it was Ozzy

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went when Blizzer of Oz came out. I had Blizzer

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of Oz on eight track by the way, and uh

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and I. There was a music teacher that took over

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the history class. So this jat class was like, He's like,

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all you gotta do is do a report on anything

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you want and that's your whole grade for the semester.

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So I pitt I did Ozzy satanism in his music.

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I like to see that.

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Yeah, I wonder if I even have that somewhere.

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I record too.

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I brought in Diary of a Madman with me. I

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brought in I have this shirt that is a Diary

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of Madman's shirt that I actually put on the back

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because remember back in the day, we used to put

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our own art on stuff. And I put in memory

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of Randy Roads. I did get to see Randy Roads

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right before he died, so that was iconic.

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I saw Ozzie and Randy. The first time I saw

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them was at the Palladium. You remember the Palladium on

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Fourteenth Street. Yeah, there's two. It was a five thirty

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and a nine thirty show. We're young, so the plan was,

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all right, we'll go to the five thirty show from

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Metro Park. We went, you know, Penn Station. We're like

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we'll walk down to fourteenth Street, show will be over

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by eight o'clock. You know, A curfew was like ten.

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I mean we were young kids, right, and we saw

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you know, Motorhead opening and you know, reading about them

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and then seeing them visually, I was like, holy shit,

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let me from Hawkwin. This band is insane. And then

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Ozzie would Randy and We're like, fuck this, I don't

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care if I'm grounded forever. And then back in those days,

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I mean, we had really good seats for the five

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thirty show, but we went out and scalped for the

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nine thirty show, all the way in the back of

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the play and we spent like twenty bucks. I mean

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that was like kind of a standard thing back then, right,

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And we watched and needless to say, when I came home,

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both my parents were sleeping. I didn't get any trouble,

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and neither did my other friend. The other guy that

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was with us was grounded for like a month. As

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as a matter of fact, I don't think I ever

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saw him again, but it was well worth it to see,

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you know, And so I know what it was like

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to see Ozzie and Randy. And we didn't have cameras.

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We know, you know, it was great.

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It's funny because I have a similar story. It was

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one of those things where they were playing Ozzie was

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playing New Year's Eve in La I think it was

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at the Forum or something like that, and me and

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my bro I said to my dad again, I'm sleeping

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over so and So's house, and he said he was

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sleeping over my house. And then we went to the

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Ozzie Show and we came back and we lived in

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Lake Lindero in Agora in California, and there there was

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like a hill down to the lake in my backyard.

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So we just waited down at the bottom, like for

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my parents, to my dad to kind of wake up

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and like we were going to come back home or

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something like shit like that. We were out in the

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morning or whatever, and my neighbor, this woman comes out.

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She sees us and all the Aussie ship and she goes,

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did you guys did you boys go to Ozzie Show

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last night? And we're like yeah. She goes, stay right there,

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I need to introduce you to my husband. And we're like,

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weirded out because my next door neighbor, we're gonna get

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in trouble man. And then the husband comes out. Yeah,

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the husband comes out. He invites us up to the house,

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brings us in his studio, which was wall to wall

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cassette tapes. He was fucking Aussie's promoter. Oh really, right

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next door to me. I never knew. And so he's

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like giving a schwag and all this stuff and like

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it was like the coolest experience ever. And then he

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hands me this cassette tape. He said, this band is

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going to be an America in like six months. Nobody

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knows about him yet. Here I'm giving you the demo

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tape and uh, they're gonna be huge. And that was

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that was accept fast as a shark. Wow wow wow

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right and.

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That was a heavy record too. Man. I remember being

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pretty floored when I heard that that album and it's

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I mean, yeah, that was really cool and unique at

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that point. It took them a while to catch on.

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And what's funny is you know, you being a Jersey guy,

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Mark from Teach Quick has been singing with them for

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so many years and I just saw them not this

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Monster's Rock the Last and I for the first time

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ironically getting to see with Mark. You would have thought

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I saw him sooner, but I didn't, and to me,

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they were even better than nice, you know. But yeah,

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of course, man, that's pretty cool when you have a

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neighbor that could turn you onto bands months before you know,

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the record comes.

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Out, right, And I was like, I don't know, say

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that again.

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No, I'm saying. You know, if you went to the

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Aussie show, you know, you're just like, oh, the neighbor

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gave me stuff. You know our neighbors is you know

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he worked grochy for him? Yeah, no, Dad, we didn't

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go to any show and you know, hit our neighbor's

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you got some fool of vouch for you, which is

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always a great thing.

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Totally, totally. One of the things I wanted to ask

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you too, is what's it like to be the musician

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and the radio jock.

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I've been a musician as far back as I can remember,

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and you know, I never had any aspirations to do radio,

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to be honest with you. And a woman, Amy Christie,

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who used to run a rock magazine, you know in

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New York and New Jersey. She she came out and

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did a story on a band I was playing with

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in the nineties, and then she moved and then I

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was living in Long Branch, New Jersey at that point,

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and she moved down to that neck of the woods

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and there was a radio station opening called The Rat.

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I remember the Rat still there, still there, a lot.

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Of the same crew. And she said, you know, would

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you be interested in doing a radio show with me?

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I'd been talking to the general manager and my first

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reaction was like, no, I don't want to like front

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and back cell like hey, Memorial Day Weekend, the Big

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Nine with an Aalen or you know, or Corn coming up,

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you know. No. She's like, no, no, we could, you know,

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play whatever we want as long as there's no obscenity

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and we can and between the people, we know, you know,

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we could bring bands down. And so we went into

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this meeting. I never expected to get it. You know,

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my daughter was just born born. I dropped her on

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the table at this big meeting. They want to meet

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with us, and for some reason, the Great Dan Finn

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said I have a feeling about you guys, and he

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took a chance and we did that show. I ended

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the show back in July at twenty twenty four, but

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that was in like ninety eight, and you know, throughout

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the years we had the Ramones come down, you know,

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Joey and those guys and Johnny, you know, Alice Cooper,

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John Paul Jones, I mean the Kinks, because we knew

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a lot of people and they love doing the show

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because it's kind of like this, you know, I mean,

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you know, there's we could talk for forty minutes and

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then catch up on all the commercials we had that time,

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and it resonated so from doing that. And then I

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get a call when I want to do a punk

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rock show for Sirious Radio. And I had never heard

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of satellite radio. I thought it was like Wayne's World, Like, honestly,

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what the fuck is satellite radio? And they're like, oh,

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you could do a punk show and you could do

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a weekend on first Wave and left the center, and

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I have no idea what they're talking about. But to

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be honest, the bread was good enough to come into

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the city and they said it would be one day

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a week, you know, five hours whatever. So I come

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in for an interview and I walked in and when

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I got off the elevator and I walked through that

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glass door. And growing up on New York legends like

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Meg Griffin and Carol Miller and Pat, Saint John, they

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were all there and I'm like, I got to educate

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myself quickly. So that's how I started. I did a

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punk show called the Punk Yard, and then which led

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me doing the Boneyard, which became Ozzy's. No, it was Buzzsaw,

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which became Ozzy's Boneyard. And then Meg Griffin, who I'm

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very close with. You know, she connected me even though

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I was friendly with David Johansson, but having the honors

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of produce and engineer his show and for over twenty years.

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So I mean that's how I got in a radio

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but a musician. And it's funny because people who only

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know me as a musicians, people that only know me

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from radio. So with the solo record, I guess the

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hope is to bring them all together, like we know

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Keith Roth from so and so, you know Frankenstein three

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thousand of the Joe Hanson group, whatever they know me

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for and from oh that's the dude from Ozzie's Boneyard

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or whatever. So hopefully it could expand the audience with

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just simply being Keith Roth. But it is a personal record,

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so but you know that's why it's just under my

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name for this.

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One and tell us more about the record. Okay, we

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talked a little bit about Superfly, but give us a

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little insight on the rest of the record. And you

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know what came from inside.

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Well, you know, I also play in a band called

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the Dictators, Yeah, since the seventies, and so it was

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a really really great time, you know, as an artist,

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because they had wanted to put together a Frankenstein three

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thousand compilation which just came out called Lost in Space

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Volume one. So I was really digging through the vaults

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and tweaking stuff on that and the Dictators were in

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the thick of making a new record, and I was

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really prolific in writing. But all these songs didn't make

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sense for the Dictators or Frankenstein. So I went to

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my buddy Mike Jaffy. I'm like, I got a group

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of songs, what do you think of these? And he's like,

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these are really cool, And he has a studio and

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he's like, let let's work him out, and you know,

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and then we went into Bob Pantellas and we started

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recording stuff. But I just knew that these songs were

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more personal, more me and a lot of different variety,

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and plus when it's your name. You could do Superfly,

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or you could do you know something that somebody said

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the other day sounded like the band Luna, which I loved,

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or you know, or just like a rock song like

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the opening track. Don't feel like think it today, But

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it's a there's a theme in my head. It's a

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concept record. You have to kind of jump in to

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see what it's all about. And you know, having a

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lot of great people help me out on it, like

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you know, obviously playing with Ross the Boss from The

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Dictators and working with Punky Meadows in the past. Him

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and Danny are on there, and Albert Bouchard lays down

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some drums and Bob from Monster Magnet, who I've done

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a lot of work with throughout the years, and uh,

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you know, it's one of those records and you don't

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cherry Pickett, you just hit play and it's a it's

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a musical journey and if I'm happy with it, to

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be honest, that's That's the one thing I learned many

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years ago is uh, I never really was into following trends.

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I mean, if you look at my musical history, none

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of it matches up.

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To what was going on at that point, you know

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what I mean, I love it.

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You know, in the nineties it was punk rock, you know,

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and then you know, a band I wasn't called Bad Biscuit.

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We were very punk rock and for the time, and

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then a lot of it kind of sounded like what

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Green Day did a few years later. And and but after,

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you know, I just wanted to I became really happier

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when I just started wanted to do my own thing

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and and that kind of you know, and stop listening

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to a lot of stuff. You know, I just was

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into my own thing for a while. And you know,

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the bands that I grew up with, as you were saying, like,

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those are the really you know, around eighty seven eighty

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eight is and I really got out of, you know,

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a lot of the metal stuff that was going on,

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and I reverted back to all the stuff that my

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brothers played around the house. And I grew up in

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the Bronx, so I thought everybody knew who the MC

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five were in the Stooges and David Peel on the

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Lower East Side, and nobody really knew. It was fortunate

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that this little area people knew this kind of music.

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And then around eighty eight everything got so homogenized that

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I just reverted as a complete throwback. And you know,

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of course along the way you discovered great bands like

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Red Cross or people that are doing stuff out of

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the box. But you know, that's and being on you know,

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Ozzie's Boneyard. I mean, that's the stuff I grew up on.

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I mean that was me and my buddies, you know,

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keg parties in the woods, Black Sabbath, you know, and

445
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you know guns n' roses. I love guns, and you know,

446
00:21:43.440 --> 00:21:46.440
and of course David Johansson. You know, we turned out

447
00:21:46.480 --> 00:21:48.480
to be one of my greatest friends ever and his

448
00:21:48.680 --> 00:21:51.839
passing still devastates me. But yeah, you know, all that

449
00:21:52.079 --> 00:21:55.319
seventies New York glam stuff and English glam stuff and

450
00:21:55.359 --> 00:21:57.799
punk rock, that's really what I listened to from eighty

451
00:21:57.839 --> 00:21:58.960
eight till till now.

452
00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:04.200
It's funny you mentioned about your brothers, because there's some

453
00:22:04.359 --> 00:22:07.359
bands I've interviewed that I tell them like I did

454
00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:10.759
the John Lodge from the Moody Blues recently, and I was, yeah, no,

455
00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:15.400
the reason I took this interview is because I used

456
00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:18.200
to steal my brother's album of yours and listen to

457
00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:20.799
it all the time. You know, and that is the

458
00:22:20.920 --> 00:22:23.720
cool thing today is like we were saying before, it's

459
00:22:23.799 --> 00:22:27.119
like we have this history of different types of music

460
00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:30.559
throughout our life. It doesn't mean we didn't like all

461
00:22:30.720 --> 00:22:33.440
different types. It just means there were so many different

462
00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:36.960
trends and things that I think were more well rounded

463
00:22:37.079 --> 00:22:39.759
because of it. In a musical sense.

464
00:22:39.880 --> 00:22:40.000
You know.

465
00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:42.480
It's like if you can, I can sit there and

466
00:22:42.599 --> 00:22:44.839
I could go listen to Earth Wind and Fire and

467
00:22:44.920 --> 00:22:47.160
then go listen to Slayer exactly.

468
00:22:47.319 --> 00:22:49.359
I mean, And that's you know, the beauty of going

469
00:22:49.480 --> 00:22:51.400
record shopping. When I was a kid, I remember there

470
00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:54.119
was a record store in co Op City in the Bronx,

471
00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:55.799
and you know, it was a big treat, you know,

472
00:22:55.880 --> 00:22:58.079
my mom giving me ten bucks and you know, be

473
00:22:58.160 --> 00:23:00.480
able to go buy two records. I remember one time

474
00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:05.480
buying Diamonds Are Forever soundtrack with the Used Corporation, and

475
00:23:06.680 --> 00:23:09.640
I think it might've been Aerosmith Rocks, you know, all

476
00:23:09.720 --> 00:23:11.759
on the same day or whatever. I've always been a

477
00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:14.480
James Bond collector, But I mean, you know, so, I mean,

478
00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:17.960
and nobody judged anything that was cool, you know, like

479
00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:21.000
Miles Davis said, Man, cool good music is good music.

480
00:23:21.079 --> 00:23:22.839
No matter what kind of music it is. And I

481
00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:25.839
think for me, like to nineteen eighty one really kind

482
00:23:25.880 --> 00:23:28.359
of felt like a lot of great bands, a lot

483
00:23:28.400 --> 00:23:31.200
of great stuff that came out after, but a lot

484
00:23:31.279 --> 00:23:33.599
of the originality kind of ended there because everything a

485
00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:36.079
year after that, you know, after the Beatles and the

486
00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:39.039
Stones and the Who and you know, the punk rock

487
00:23:39.160 --> 00:23:42.240
and you know bands out of Detroit. I mean, sure,

488
00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:44.759
some of it's played faster, some of it's played electronic,

489
00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:47.400
some of it, you know, and even rap music back then,

490
00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:50.920
you know, the Sugarhill Gang I was all incorporated from

491
00:23:51.000 --> 00:23:53.920
eighty one down, so you know, people you know, pushed

492
00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:56.000
it a little forward and you know, and did some

493
00:23:56.119 --> 00:23:57.920
great stuff with it. But to me, that was kind

494
00:23:57.960 --> 00:24:00.599
of like the last year of originality. I know people

495
00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:02.759
will love to argue with me about that, but that's

496
00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:03.319
how I feel.

497
00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:07.359
Hey, I see, That's what's cool about Jersey Boy or

498
00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:11.839
Jersey Girl is like you're gonna know where you stand regardless,

499
00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:15.920
you know, And I'd rather people speak their mind. Like

500
00:24:16.599 --> 00:24:19.559
I think, even if you're the artist that they're speaking about,

501
00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:22.559
Like if I were the hers, i'd be I would

502
00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:25.559
listen to it and go, well, maybe I should evaluate

503
00:24:25.720 --> 00:24:26.279
some things.

504
00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:26.519
You know.

505
00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:29.720
I think you learn more from your critics than the

506
00:24:29.799 --> 00:24:30.640
people that love you.

507
00:24:31.359 --> 00:24:34.319
That's that's true, as long as they're honest, right, you know.

508
00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:36.759
Yeah, and they're not being dicks about it and just

509
00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:37.839
being honest, that's all.

510
00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:38.519
Yeah.

511
00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:42.359
It's so funny you mentioned Sugar Hill Gang because I

512
00:24:42.519 --> 00:24:45.839
remember being in seventh grade and my my bro playing

513
00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:49.359
Rappers Delight when it first came out, and I was like, Wow,

514
00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:52.200
that is so cool, and who have known we would

515
00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:54.200
be where we are today with that kind of music.

516
00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:56.079
Yeah, I mean I got to throw a run DMC

517
00:24:56.200 --> 00:24:59.519
in the mix because they were very revolutionary and they

518
00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:01.640
were past eight one. I mean, of course there's some

519
00:25:01.880 --> 00:25:05.200
things you know, Melly Mel and you know Grand Master Flash,

520
00:25:05.400 --> 00:25:07.640
you know, and then yeah, and the sole music of

521
00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:11.079
the sixties, you know, I mean I love it all,

522
00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:13.039
you know. I mean if you people would be shocked

523
00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:14.880
if they were around my house and see what I

524
00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:17.039
listened to, you know, And you know, I mean right now,

525
00:25:17.079 --> 00:25:21.759
I think it's probably XTC and some kind of seventies

526
00:25:21.799 --> 00:25:26.599
blaxploitation soundtrack or Fuckadelic or Parliament or you know, or

527
00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:29.400
Black Sabbath, you know what I mean, right, you know.

528
00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:31.079
I mean, that's a beauty and that's why, you know,

529
00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:33.319
you do such a great show because you get all

530
00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:34.079
that stuff. You know.

531
00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:37.160
Well, you know, I also look at what you're saying,

532
00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:39.599
is it's the musicianship. I think there was a lot

533
00:25:39.640 --> 00:25:44.440
more musicianship, even with metal nowadays, like some of these bands,

534
00:25:44.519 --> 00:25:49.359
I think to myself, man, metal was never an algebraic equation.

535
00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:52.799
It's like they use an algebraic equation to write the song,

536
00:25:53.519 --> 00:25:56.599
whereas like songs just used to be written from the

537
00:25:56.759 --> 00:26:01.400
heart and like you just it was a story. And

538
00:26:01.480 --> 00:26:05.039
then the musicianship what's important, you know, not.

539
00:26:05.559 --> 00:26:09.000
People I'm really good back then, and people we looked

540
00:26:09.079 --> 00:26:12.240
up to you thrived to be good, you know, like good.

541
00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:13.839
You know, I never thought I was good until like

542
00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:15.920
ten years ago. That's why I was like, yeah, I'm

543
00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:18.039
actually good now. It took a long time to get there,

544
00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:20.240
even though I was on the path. But I mean,

545
00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:22.319
you know, because some of the you know, I mean,

546
00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:25.599
I've playing clubs where guys like Zach Wilde and you know,

547
00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:30.640
Dave Dipetro and you know, guys, these guys incredible talents,

548
00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:32.359
and I mean, you know, in Jersey there's so many

549
00:26:32.440 --> 00:26:35.000
talented guys, and it's all time to feel like I

550
00:26:35.119 --> 00:26:37.240
was on the level with those guys. But it always

551
00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:40.039
kept the striving us. But you know, and then again,

552
00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:42.119
you know my punk rock roots. It's like, you know,

553
00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:44.559
I knew how to play the you know, I auditioned

554
00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:47.440
for the Ramones. Somebody just interviewed me about this. I

555
00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:49.559
was one of one of a few people that got

556
00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:54.119
a second audition. There's a Ramones documentary coming out soon

557
00:26:54.200 --> 00:26:56.200
that they talked to me about it. But when I

558
00:26:56.359 --> 00:26:58.480
was able, how I learned how to play is the

559
00:26:58.519 --> 00:27:02.160
first Ramones record switched the balance one way. It's just bass.

560
00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:04.960
All you can ear's bass, and you switch it the

561
00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:07.599
other way. And I was just content, you know, being

562
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:09.799
a punk rock kid and loving that. But the older

563
00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:13.079
I think, you know, I still to this day and age,

564
00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:15.400
I practice more now than I did when I was

565
00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:18.319
a kid, and I you know, I it's like running, man,

566
00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:19.880
You got to run every day to keep you know,

567
00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:20.440
your chopping.

568
00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:23.880
That's where you're smart because I played drums for nine years.

569
00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:26.519
I played guitar, and I sang thrash metal and I

570
00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:29.559
sucked at all three and there was one common ingredient

571
00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:33.359
I didn't have that dedication to practice. I can remember

572
00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:37.559
reading about Randy Rhoades back then, reading he practiced like

573
00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:41.079
eight hours a day. I'm like, I'm not fucking practicing

574
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:42.079
eight hours a day.

575
00:27:43.799 --> 00:27:45.680
You got to practice, because it doesn't when it doesn't

576
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:48.440
feel like practicing, you know what I mean. Especially, you know,

577
00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:51.200
I was content being, you know, a songwriter writing punk

578
00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:51.920
tunes and.

579
00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:52.440
It was cool.

580
00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:54.720
But I'm like, ah, you know, not in the league

581
00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:57.319
of these guys. But then you know, you over time,

582
00:27:57.400 --> 00:28:00.119
it just naturally happens. And uh. I remember playing with

583
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:03.480
Punky Meadows. You know, they're like a progressive and you know,

584
00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:06.519
that was a real challenging gig. But really, after doing

585
00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:09.440
that and you know you work, you're you're as good

586
00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:12.880
as who the people you play with. I've noticed, especially drummers,

587
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:15.319
I mean the band. If you have a great drummer,

588
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:17.240
the band is great. If you have a shitty drummer,

589
00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:20.200
the band sucks. I mean, it's as good as the

590
00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:23.039
people you play with. So as a musician, you're going

591
00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:25.759
to be as good as whoever you know what the

592
00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:28.359
band sounds like. And Punky was a great example of that,

593
00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:31.319
because those guys were all really great players and playing

594
00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:34.519
some really great, intricate stuff so that I don't find

595
00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:35.759
a challenger. I find it fun.

596
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:38.920
It's like yeah, you know, yeah, see but you know

597
00:28:39.079 --> 00:28:39.920
as uh but yeah.

598
00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:42.480
I think through COVID was probably the most I played

599
00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:45.200
guitar in my whole life, you know, I mean, being

600
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:47.440
stuck in the house and and not because I felt

601
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:49.759
like I needed a practice. I just like I just

602
00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:52.519
got into playing. Like you know, I fell in love

603
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:54.680
with playing guitar, which I never did. I used it

604
00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:57.160
as a tool to write songs, but I really got it.

605
00:28:57.279 --> 00:28:59.079
And also being in a band with Ross the Boss

606
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:02.640
from the Dictators. I mean, he's an incredible motherfucking guitar player.

607
00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:05.359
He's one of the best out there. So nice keeps

608
00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:08.359
pushing me and it's fun, you know. I mean, you know,

609
00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:10.440
am I right old age of twenty seven? You know,

610
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:11.279
I feel.

611
00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:16.359
And I do love that you mentioned COVID because I

612
00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:18.400
have said for a while now that if you're going

613
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:21.200
to pick a positive to come out of COVID with

614
00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:24.640
is that bands an artist had a chance to jump

615
00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:28.480
off the hamster wheel and actually go back to being

616
00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:32.599
creative and having the time to really that I think

617
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:35.359
some of the best music we're ever going to have

618
00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:38.759
might come out of that time because of it.

619
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:41.240
I agree with you. I agree with you. I mean,

620
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:44.039
the COVID thing was very odd for me because I

621
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:48.680
definitely suffered some PTSD during it. Because every year we

622
00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:53.759
played the lou Reed Birthday party, you know, March Bower Electric.

623
00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:55.079
We did it for a few years in a row.

624
00:29:55.480 --> 00:29:57.559
And we played a show on March first, and the

625
00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:00.880
great Hal Wilner was there, you know, its producer and

626
00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:05.160
SNL and a couple of weeks after the show, and

627
00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:08.319
also we had played Michael Ilago's book signing, and you know,

628
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:11.720
we just started hearing about COVID. And then I get

629
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:13.480
a call like a week or two after that gig

630
00:30:13.559 --> 00:30:16.000
that hol Wilner had passed away, and I was like, oh,

631
00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:17.920
I'm really and he said, you know, he died of COVID.

632
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:20.880
And you know, just seeing this guy a few weeks

633
00:30:20.920 --> 00:30:23.400
ago and what a talent. And then all of a sudden,

634
00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:25.599
the floodgates open. You know, a lot of guys in

635
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:29.279
New York City, Alan Merrill, Adam Schlessinger from Fountains of Wayne,

636
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:32.440
a neighbor four doors down, a guy in great shape

637
00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:35.119
in his forties, and all these people were dying, like

638
00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:38.480
my friend Tony Dinado, like within a fourty eight period.

639
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:41.240
Just hearing these so I thought, like, all right, fasten

640
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:44.359
your seatbelts, man, this is like seventies sci fi and

641
00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:47.359
really like sad, like great, you know. And what they

642
00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:49.079
were saying on the news about, oh, well, if you're

643
00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:52.599
set in your late sixties and you have I wasn't

644
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:54.799
seeing that. I mean, sure some of them were, but

645
00:30:54.920 --> 00:30:57.759
the majority of them were very That first strain was

646
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:00.160
so freaking strong. And then I think it went from

647
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:02.359
Seattle to New York and it took down a lot

648
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:04.079
of great people. And I know people today that are

649
00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:06.720
just getting over it that had that first strain, you know,

650
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:07.279
call it.

651
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:10.359
So I got it. I got it in January of

652
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:13.200
twenty twenty from doing a red carpet at the Oscars.

653
00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:15.720
Wow, I mean, did you have a really tough time

654
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:16.279
with it or now?

655
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:21.839
Oh? I I was in La I live in Florida.

656
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:24.640
I was at my bro's house. He was nervous because

657
00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:26.400
I'm the type of person if I have one hundred

658
00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:29.440
and four temperature and pneumonia, I'm still going one hundred percent.

659
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:32.839
I did not leave the room for like three days

660
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:36.559
I was dying, and then I came out. I was like, oh,

661
00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:40.400
I finally feel like I'm a little alive. And then

662
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:42.799
a day later it went back to worse again, you

663
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:46.720
know how that first strain was. And then I went

664
00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:48.640
When I got back to Florida, I was supposed to

665
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:50.759
go to Costa Rica a week to go surfing, and

666
00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:54.759
I was still feeling like crap and I couldn't breathe,

667
00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:58.400
and so I went finally went to a doctor and

668
00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:04.119
on my record literally says unidentified organism. They didn't even

669
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:05.000
know what the hell it was.

670
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:08.519
It had no idea. Yeah, no it was.

671
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:11.920
And so then I went to Costa Rica, came back

672
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:13.599
and three days later we were lockdown.

673
00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:16.559
Yeah, yeah, it was. I was in the city the

674
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:19.759
night that the lockdown kicked in. I mean, ironically, I

675
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:22.559
was on the Lower East Side and playing a lot

676
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:25.400
around that March frame. But you know, starting to hear

677
00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:28.519
about Seattle, and you know, even my daughter, who's a nurse,

678
00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:32.519
I mean, and she's a runner. She runs, so she's

679
00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:33.960
like you in the sense that you know, you have

680
00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:37.559
to be like completely like paralyzed to not do it.

681
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:40.079
And she was like, you know, Dad, I can't breathe.

682
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:42.480
And I got this feed and this was like in February,

683
00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:45.119
and I took her to the doctor and nobody knew

684
00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:48.720
what was wrong with her. And then they said, it's

685
00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:51.000
your dad cool, and like, hey, he's cool. He's like, uh,

686
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:55.599
you might be maybe you're pregnant, right, And then I

687
00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:58.799
left the room. But she had antibodies, so I'm thinking

688
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:01.599
she may have had, you know, before it was really

689
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:04.480
announced what it was. But it was just devastating because

690
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:07.039
we lost so many great people during Yeah. I mean

691
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:09.640
I've had it myself, you know, maybe a year after.

692
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:12.200
I really didn't have a hassle with it. And as

693
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:14.079
a matter of fact, all the dictators we all got

694
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:16.759
it together. And you know, it's like a bat to

695
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:19.119
me every time I get it. I just got off

696
00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:21.599
the Mantra's rock crew, so I'm waiting for it to kick.

697
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:25.279
But it's it's just that headache is the worst part

698
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:25.799
of it, you know.

699
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:28.359
Oh, no doubt. I had it two other times after that.

700
00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:31.200
My grandkids gave it to me and it was pretty

701
00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:37.319
easy the two other times, I can say. But I'm

702
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:41.640
so glad that live music is back and better than

703
00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:45.359
ever in some cases and like, here's the thing. I

704
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:49.039
think people going to festivals and concerts were complaining way

705
00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:53.200
too much before COVID that hopefully it changed their opinion.

706
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:56.640
And just because I don't care now if some kids

707
00:33:56.759 --> 00:33:59.440
up there playing a recorder, I want be a live show.

708
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:01.000
I ever missed one again.

709
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:06.759
It was so rewarding when when the floodgates opened and uh,

710
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:09.960
going out and playing again, you know, uh, it was amazing.

711
00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:11.840
You know. I think the first thing I did is, uh,

712
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:15.320
you know Mark Weiss, the photographer, Uh huh, he's a

713
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:18.320
good He did this event at some little theater in Middletown,

714
00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:20.920
and uh, I have a cover band that I play,

715
00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:23.519
you know, in the Red Bank area, and we played

716
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:25.800
and we had people like bumble Foot and car minea piece.

717
00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:29.280
Anybody wanted to do anything at that point, and it

718
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:32.440
was just great to see people again and being outside

719
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:34.639
and then you know, shortly going out with the Dictators

720
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:37.239
out to Canada and and just getting back into the

721
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:39.159
groove of it, you know, I mean listen to a

722
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:41.079
lot of that stuff too. Is you really should throw

723
00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:43.320
yourself into it and you know, let your body do

724
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:45.440
its own business and and get through it. And uh

725
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:47.639
but uh, but the but when when the when the

726
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:50.400
floodgates opened up. I mean that was great, and I

727
00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:52.360
don't even think about that anymore.

728
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:55.199
To be honest, No, not at all, not at all.

729
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:58.280
I love that we're just living life again. And you know,

730
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:02.199
great me music. So much great music is out there

731
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:07.000
because of it, including your new album dropping on March twenty,

732
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:12.239
first couple of days, The Love Diminished returns through Deco Entertainment.

733
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:16.800
I am so excited about this because for those people

734
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:20.320
out there that maybe not have not heard you as

735
00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:24.840
a musician, or you've never put anything solo out, they

736
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:29.559
need to get this album because it is badass. Tell

737
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:33.159
everybody how they can get it, how they can you know,

738
00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:36.599
the types of packages that they can get vinyl, whatever,

739
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:39.719
your socials, everything they need to know.

740
00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:43.920
I'm kind of anti social media, but I mean, in

741
00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:47.719
all serious Deco Entertainment dot com, you could get the vinyl.

742
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:50.800
I think there's limited edition blue vinyl that really looks amazing.

743
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:54.079
The CDs and streaming come out on Deco Entertainment, you

744
00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:57.119
know Amazon. I just did a talk Shop Live. I

745
00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:00.079
know they got some sign copies of the vinyl in

746
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:04.960
the CD Talkshop Live dot Com Deco Entertainment, dot Com, Amazon,

747
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:08.400
you know, streaming and all your favorite platforms, every stream music.

748
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:11.840
So check it out. Hopefully you like it. And you know,

749
00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:15.039
thank you, man, thank you for you know, talking about

750
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:16.679
the record. I really appreciate that pipe man.

751
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:19.559
Oh absolutely, and the first single you put on December

752
00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:22.800
that speaks to me, I don't feel like thinking today.

753
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:25.760
I think lately I've been feeling that a lot.

754
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:29.440
You know. I wrote that song in three minutes.

755
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:31.280
I really yeah.

756
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:33.760
I mean, it was one of those days where you're

757
00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:36.559
in these text groups with friends and they're fighting about

758
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:39.159
this and that and politics and all this stuff, and

759
00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:41.360
then you're going through the news and this and that

760
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:43.239
this one's saying, you know, and it was just and

761
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:45.280
then people, you know, other drama has nothing to do

762
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:47.679
with anything, and I literally just said, man, I just

763
00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:50.239
don't fucking feel like thinking today. And I'm like, that's

764
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:53.719
pretty good song title. And then I just grabbed came

765
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:55.599
up with the riff and I was like, it just

766
00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:58.280
came out of me, and most of the verses that

767
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:00.880
I scattered away became a lot of the end. But

768
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:04.960
it's a very poppy, fun song, but there's some real

769
00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:07.239
honesty in those lyrics about you know, just what was

770
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:11.199
going through my head for those that timeline at that point.

771
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:15.519
But yeah, I think there's another song that's only available

772
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:18.519
on the CD and and I don't even think it's

773
00:37:18.519 --> 00:37:20.800
going to be streaming, but that's gonna be a release,

774
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:24.239
you know, because now with the record drop it on Friday,

775
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:26.559
it's just those two singles. But that one's gonna come

776
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:29.840
out after the fact, and I think we're gonna do

777
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:32.480
a video for that. But yeah, you know, listen, at

778
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:34.559
this point, I know every bell and whistle on the record,

779
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:36.519
so I'm ready to do another one. You know.

780
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:38.840
I love it. I love it. Any final thoughts you

781
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:40.679
want to give us on the record or anything you

782
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:41.400
got coming up?

783
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:46.039
Well, as Keith Roth, I got some shows coming up

784
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:49.239
with fog Hat it should be an interesting fund and

785
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:51.480
I know Roger for years, so I think I know

786
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:54.480
we're playing May seventeenth in Patchog, New York. I know

787
00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:57.800
the Dictators were on Little Stevens Cruise, which is in May.

788
00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:00.559
We're looking way forward to that with a social distortion

789
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:04.280
and the helicopters and X and there's other stuff popping up,

790
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:07.360
but Dictators dates will probably be announced before we get

791
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:10.119
on the cruise as getting back to me with the

792
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:12.960
solo stuff, some shows with fog Hat. But there's a

793
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:15.280
lot of stuff that's kind of culminating right now, so

794
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:17.440
over the next couple of weeks a lot more info.

795
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:19.639
But you know, you can find me on Facebook Keith

796
00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:23.400
row Out, the Dictator's site, you know, keeps in the loop,

797
00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:25.280
and of course you can listen to me every day

798
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:29.960
rant and Rave on Ozzie's Boneyard and hair Nation. And finally,

799
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:32.840
the David Johanson tribute that me and Meg Griffin are

800
00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:35.079
doing is Aaron on Wednesday. I don't know when this

801
00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:38.800
is airing, so but that airs Wednesday eleven pm East

802
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:41.639
on the Spectrum Channel twenty eight and it's me and

803
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:44.800
Meg talking about personal stories with David and sharing some

804
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:47.159
of our favorite songs. And I think it'll probably be

805
00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:48.519
on demand after that as well.

806
00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:51.960
Nice, well, we'll make sure the air this so that

807
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:56.079
they can catch that and get your album and all

808
00:38:56.159 --> 00:39:01.639
that good stuff. And you are badass. Well, thank you

809
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:04.880
very much, and hey, thanks for being on the Adventures

810
00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:05.360
of pipe Man.

811
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:07.880
I hope to be back again pipe Man. Thank you, bro.

812
00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:10.920
I hope you are too, and I'm sure you will,

813
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:14.199
and now I gotta go do my live show, so

814
00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:17.639
we'll have to we'll talk more and we'll promote the

815
00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:21.360
shit out of this on my show, because you're just

816
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:25.639
the all around music person and everybody needs to If

817
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:27.199
they don't know you, they need to get to know

818
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:29.920
you and at the very least go get the album.

819
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:33.159
Thank you for spreading the spreading the word man. It's

820
00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:34.800
been a lot of fun hanging out with you before

821
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:37.960
the interview and now and you know, the pipe Man

822
00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:41.440
rock and roll my brother. Thank you for listening to

823
00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:43.840
the Adventures of pipe Man.

824
00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:47.880
I'm w for CUI Radio.