Jan. 17, 2025
PipemanRafio and John Gallagher Discuss Raven's 50TH ANNIVERSARY EP
Pipeman Radio has a discussion with John Gallagher of Raven about the 50th anniversary release Can't Take Away The Fire plus live music. We had a conversation discussing metal music dating back 50 years and the evolution of it. We discussed real...
Pipeman Radio has a discussion with John Gallagher of Raven about the 50th anniversary release Can't Take Away The Fire plus live music. We had a conversation discussing metal music dating back 50 years and the evolution of it. We discussed real metal bands and how the songs, music, and attitude is.
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It is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe
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And I'm super excited out this guest because one of
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my favorite bands. And man, I can't believe it's been
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fifty freaking years. Let's welcome to the show. John Galder
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from Raving hell Sair.
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Good to be here.
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Oh, man, Like, where does it feel like when you
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wake up in the morning and realize you've been doing
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this for fifty years?
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Like, that's kind of weird, right.
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It's very weird because it's, uh, you know, it seems
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like yesterday that, you know, we were sitting in our
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bedroom trying to fight over an acoustic guitar, and then
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you know, my brother and our friend down the street
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came up and said, hey, we're going to form a
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band and you can play bass. I'm like, oh, okay,
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let's go. And we had no idea what we were
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letting ourselves in for, because, like I realized like he
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in the States, like kids about our age. At the time,
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there was a bond on every corner, you know. Ever
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since the Beatles broke, everyone in America wanted to be
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in a bond. So yeah, and it continued, and that
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wasn't where we were. There was nobody around. No one
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in our area we knew was in a band. I mean,
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there was some people that ended up doing it, but
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we didn't know who they were. We weren't hanging out,
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they weren't playing shows or anything like that. So we
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learned it all the hard way. There wasn't anyone on
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our level to kind of copy or steal ideas from.
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We had to steal them all from the big boys,
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you know.
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Yeah, and it is so true as somebody that has
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been listening to you since way back then, you know,
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it was a very different world of music like right
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now there. You know, there's the benefits of the fact
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that you know, anybody can pretty much put out music,
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but then there's also the disadvantages because then there's just
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a whole sea of I think a lot of same
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type of music because everybody's just trying to put this
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algebraic equation to music. Whereas bands like you guys were
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innovators that like, even within the same genre, all the
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bands were so distinctly different.
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You've nailed it. That was the thing about especially the
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new wave of British heavy metal, which was an era,
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not a genre, not a sound. It was a graving
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but all those bonds sounded totally different. They all hot,
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passion and energy. But other than not, you know, we
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didn't sound like Iron Maiden. Iron Maiden didn't sound like
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Deaf Leppards. They didn't sound like Sampson, they didn't sound
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like White Spirit or Venom or you know, diamond Head.
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They all sounded different, which was cool, which is great.
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I thought it was great myself because it's like, I
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just think we need these different vibes and feelings that
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we get from different types of music, from different bands,
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from different artists, different musicians, you know, And I don't
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want to listen to the same song over and over.
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No, you don't want to live in a world where
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everything's blue and you like, I'm going to eat their
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pasta every day for the rest of my life. It's like,
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you know, moderation, there's a spectrum, check it out.
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It's just absolutely, you know, absolutely.
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We shocked in everything when we were kids, and I
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still try to. I mean, what have I got floating
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the round here? What am I listening? Do Almond Brothers?
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Nice?
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I have a listen to Allmond Brothers and really, so
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this is cool. I'm checking this out. Freaking you too, Hendrix.
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They redid the New Queen one.
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I see.
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I love that you're doing this right now because that
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is how we grew up with all these different varieties
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of music that we were into, and you know, it
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shapes who you are, and it shape as you as
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an artist. Then you give me unique because you're not
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You're not doing the same as everybody else. There's like
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influences from all different walks of life and blending genres.
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Uh yeah, you know, preach brother, you're saying the way
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it is because it's it's like having a vocabulary, you know.
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I see, even to this day, you'll have opening bonds
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and it's like, oh yeah, so they've been listening to
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Rain and Blood for the last twenty years and nothing else.
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It's like Slayer already did it, you know, right, can't you? So?
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What was well?
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You think was the first album that ever really made
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you feel like? Man, this is my passion music.
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Slay Alive, nice album Overboard, It's still one of the
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greatest albums of all time. Absolutely May The first band
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we ever saw and the opening band for that gig
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was the sensational Alex Harvey Bond, who were mind blowing
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and after seeing those two, we were ruined for life.
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I love it. I love it so yeah.
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For me, I was at I lived in New Jersey
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and I was at the Jersey Shore at the boardwalk
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playing some Carnie game and I I saw this Carnee
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game where you could win an album, and there's this
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album up there that I'm like, Oh, those dudes look cool,
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and so I played the game and I did win it.
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And it was Kisses first album when it first came out,
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very cool, and I was ruined after that, you know, yeah, same.
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Thing I mean those Yeah, those guys will tell you.
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There's so many interviews for Gene Simmons goes if it
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wasn't for Slade, so there wouldn't be a kiss because
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you know, they took that concept and ran with it
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and went somewhere else with it. But absolutely, you know,
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we bombs, lots of hooks, big guitar riffs.
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Yeah, of course, you know you have influences, but you
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don't need to be like your influences. You just evolved
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from those influences.
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Yeah, like you see you pull from that. I mean,
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we religiously went to see every concept we could. So
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we saw Slayed and Alex Harvey. I think the next
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one we went to see was Status Quo, who were
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like one of the best live bands you would ever see.
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Just ridiculous. Imagine two thousand people headbind crazy.
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Oh my god, Budgie, Oh yeah, I have a Budgy
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album right in front of us.
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First song bread Fine, place went nuts. It's a seated hall.
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Everyone just ran to the front. It's crazy. And then
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you know, I camped out in the snow for tickets
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for Richie Blackmore's Rainbow First tour. Yes, uh, you knows.
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Nowadays don't know what it's like to camp out to
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wait for online for tickets.
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No, they're comping out in the living room on the laptop,
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hoping to you know, not get too badly ripped off.
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And we were lucky where we were because you know,
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yeah there was club shows and Jersey, but I mean
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a lot of your shows, you you were going to
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the garden or you were going to the meadowlands and
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it's you know, it's okay, but you're still kind of
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need your binoculars to see what's going on. And we
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were playing what would be the equivalent maybe the Capital Theater.
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That's where all the bands played, the Newcastle City Hall,
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two thousand capacity with a balcony, not a bad seat
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in the house, right. So that was our education seeing
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these bands coming in and watching the opening bards and saying,
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you know, they got a tough road here. How do
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they handle it? Do they win the audience over? And
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some of them did and a lot of them didn't.
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And you would say, well, they suck because they're not
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connecting with the audience. They're not a bad bond, but
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they're not reaching out. They've got no showmanship, and you
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know you would figure it out.
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Connecting is the keyword right there, because Okay, So in
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nineteen eighty my dad moved me from New Jersey to
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la and I went to my first club show ever
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and that ruined me too because it was like I said,
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I'm never going to a real concert ever again. Because
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everything you were talking about, that intimacy, the connection, and
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so it was at the Roxy on the Sunset Strip, right,
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and it was Motley Crue before they even had an album.
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Oh brilliant.
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Yeah, And so.
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They weren't glam they were more like horror punk and
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they were trying to set the Roxy on fire to
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bring Satan in.
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And I was I was, like, I think thirty or
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fourteen years old. I'm like, oh my god, this is amazing.
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You were there at the right time time. We were never.
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We were never on the strip. We played when whether
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we came. We played at the country Club out in Reseda.
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And I saw you guys at the country club in Reseda.
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There you go.
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I I even, uh, I think, I think I saw
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a show with you and Metallica Club in LA because
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I went to like Metallica's first shows ever and Slayers
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would be.
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That would have been the country club. And then I
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think we did it again with m FROs. I think
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hereafter yeah.
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Yeah, so I'm like kind of famous at the country club.
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Because I was at a Savage Grace show and I
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ended the show by doing a stage dive. I was
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full squad Swan in the air crowd moved, I hit
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tea person to the floor and knocked out all my teeth.
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Oh Jesus Christ not recommended.
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Yeah, I don't do that anymore. I'll still I'll go,
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and I like being in control. I don't like other
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people being in control anymore. No crowd surfing, no stage diving.
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But I'll go on the pick because then I'm in control.
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My brother did that once in Germany. We were on
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a opening for Running Wild and there was some guys
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flipping them off or something, so he just put his
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guitar down and dived on top of them. I love it,
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and U s brawled out while they were all trying
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to find him and start a fight. And they were
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all fighting each other.
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Oh my god, that's funny. Ah, good time. So what's
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it like fifty years later to write music? I asked
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that of all artists, I've been doing that long because
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I just think to myself, Wow, I'm just in awe
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of you to be able to still have more songs
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in your head to get out there.
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You wouldn't believe this, but literally one minute before I
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clicked on here, I had that guitar. Oh that's a
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good riff, let's record it. So I pick a guitar
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up these days, and you know, thank you the muses However,
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it's usually one of the first thing or the second
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thing I played. I'll just put my hands on and go, oh,
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where do we go from here, and come up with
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an idea, record it and then you know, go back
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to it later and if it's it still sounds good,
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we'll go somewhere with it and we'll see where we
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can take it. But it's mysterious, and as you've probably
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heard from many people, you don't want to even get
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into it. You don't want to ruin the more jo
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it's just like right and so you know it's not
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from you. You are like receiving from somewhere. God knows
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where you're receiving, and it's that spectrum. You know, I'll
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receive this and somebody else will receive something else. We
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never get the same thing, and I don't question it.
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I just go with it. And the more the MAREA.
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See that's a true artist right there, because that is
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what it's about, you know, to be being an artist.
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I don't think it's people think it's the physical person
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that that. It's like, it's just this vibe and energy
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that comes into you and it doesn't come into everybody.
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tuned into that, and you know there is craft involved
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following this where I say, oh, sure, I got a
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great idea. Where do I go from there? And then
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that's craft and experience. But you can't build a song
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purely on craft and experience because then it turns into
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Max Martin and you know, whoever's writing for Britney Spears
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this week. But you know that kind of thing, which
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is a it's a different talent, but to me, it's
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like bricklaying. Yeah, you know, there's a patent and you
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follow it and it works, and that's great, but that's
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not trying to do anything new, you know.
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Well, you know it's kind of like I think of
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it this way too. Even you know, kudos to the
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performing artists that you know they perform, But somebody else
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writes a song, no hate at all. But I couldn't
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imagine myself doing it, Like I couldn't imagine singing somebody
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else's song or playing somebody else's song because it's not
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