March 21, 2026
Raising Hell with Sanctuary Stories, Shots & New Music - Hell’s Heroes VIII 2026 Interview
The Pipeman sits down with Sanctuary’s Lenny Rutledge and Joseph Michael live at Hell’s Heroes Festival VIII 2026 on W4CY Radio. The band talks about their return to the stage for the first time since 2019, upcoming album plans, and international touring.
They also share a wild road story from the early days that turned into one of their most unforgettable memories, reflect on Warrel Dane’s legacy. We also get behind-the-scenes festival moments and what’s next for Sanctuary.
The episode closes with remembering Sean Blosl, Lenny Rutledge’s cousin, and one of the people who helped shape Sanctuary’s early vision.
Featured topics: New Sanctuary album, Hell’s Heroes VIII Festival, busted in Montana, Power Metal, shots!
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Hi, this is Lenny Releas from Sanctuary and you're listening
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to pipe Man on W four C Y Radio.
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Hi you love learnt.
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Here sensu W for se Wow.
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Where you young.
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Ro This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures
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pipe Man W four C Y Radio.
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And I'm here with Lenny Rutleds from Sanctuary.
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Joseph Michael from Sanctuary.
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Nice, and you just played here at Hell's Heroes. And
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I think he kind of played baseball too, because somebody
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pitched something at Joseph and then he was like the
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awesome first baseman. He just grabbed it and pitched it
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off to you. Lenny.
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Yeah, it's pretty amazing.
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I was amazed as the fact that he actually caught
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that and then he handed it to me and I
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took my first shot in many years.
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Yeah it was I didn't call out a beer, but
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not shots usually.
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It was a pretty iconic show. Your first shot in years,
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his first beer in five months, right, you know.
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Like we're degenerates. I feel more like Ozzie Smith than
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like Don Mattingly.
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Nice.
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There you go, And so how did it feel to
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be here at Hell's Heroes. Let's start there, like you guys,
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were having a fucking blast up there.
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Yeah, we were in a good time.
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It was hot up there, and uh we had it
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was just it was our first time in since twenty nineteen,
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so it was I was I was a bit nervous,
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but it worked. Everything worked out good.
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What did it feel like though, being up there live
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for the first time since twenty nineteen, You guys were tight,
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Like I wouldn't have known. You haven't played since then.
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We have rehearsed quite a bit, so yeah, I mean
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it was kind of like, you know, riding a bike.
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It was not a big deal for the most part.
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And luckily, you know, a lot of times in some
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of the festival situations, you never know because you only
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have a certain amount of time to get ready and
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there's not really a sound check and all that, and
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so there's a little bit of anxiety there. But everything
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went well. I barely had to tune my guitar. I
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only had a too hopefully it was in tune.
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And your voice, oh my god, Like I'm just gonna
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say something now, you've been compared to a lot of people.
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I saw priests at Hellfest last year and I love Halford.
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I think you blew away Halford.
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Well, I'm sure he would appreciate you saying.
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I love Rob.
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I met Rob once. He was a super chap, great singer, legend.
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I don't know if what you said is true. But
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by the way, Lenny Lenny up on stage, not only
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did he drink that shout out tequila, I don't know
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how he lost he.
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Also lost his speck.
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Lost his stick on stage. It fell out.
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How do you lose your stick?
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I don't know, dude, I almost tripped on it. Yeah,
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we were reached down.
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It's just gone. What were we.
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Talking about about the stick and Halford?
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Oh?
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Yeah, yeah, I'm sure Halford would have appreciated my joke
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about the stick.
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I'm sure he would have. I don't know that he
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would have want that in the interview.
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I don't think Halferd cares. Have you've seen his Instagram?
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That dude is enjoying himself.
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Oh totally. I've actually interviewed him and he is the
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nicest good.
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His book that his recent book, I think it was
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called Confessions.
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It's awesome. I mean, I love Halford, Oh yeah, no doubt.
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But he doesn't. He does not hold back. He tells,
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He tells the whole story and I applauded for that.
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Yeah, he's fearless.
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I love that. And you know what, I used to
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hang out with your cousin in his house in Tarzana An.
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Oh you went to his house. Yeah, oh so you
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saw like.
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Like Vivian lived with them, and you know, I was like,
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I don't know. Fifteen sixteen.
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I saw Wendy at the Bowling for Ranie a few
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months ago, and.
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Oh, I missed it this year. I usually do that
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every year, dude.
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It was It was actually the first time I really
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like saw her in person, Like I've talked to her
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on the phone, but I had my aunt had sent
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me a bunch of like family photos and I was
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able to send him to her Like that was cool.
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Yeah, I usually do that every year. I missed it
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this year. One year I was there reviewing Jack Black
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and he tried to get me to sing, like he
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started singing me on nights a capanda like to sing.
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I'm like, that's your job at a show at Bowling
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for Iron.
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Oh god, dude, that is a that is a drunken, lunatic, adult,
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fucking nightmare of an event. Like the first time I went,
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they didn't check the PA and like they brought this
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doctor out who they they'd raised like a million dollars.
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Were you there? I was there.
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They raised a million dollars for fucking cancer research. And
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they brought this doctor from like m I t or
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wherever the fuck he was from, and he's like talking
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about like the medicine and the science, and they didn't.
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Check the PA.
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So he just just fucking kept cutting out in the
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middle of it. And then everyone's like yeah, like and
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they they didn't stop. They kept going and they bowl that's it,
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and then uh, they're gonna love that.
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I said that.
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I had to do it to fix your fucking PA. Well, yeah,
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of course. I had to do a one minute interview
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one time at BOLFARRANI who was it? Can you guess
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who it was? He bowls like a three hundred, played
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in this band that had a little rage in it.
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It was, it was.
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There, it is. He got it. Really, I knew he
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would get it.
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I thought you were being metaphorically.
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No, no, really, His tour badger was at the red
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carpet and he goes, you have a hard one minute,
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and I did it. I finished it, like no, no.
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I mean no offense to Tom I mean he's he's
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a I think he's kind of an amazing musician. I'm
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not sure if I agree with his politics all the time,
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and he sounds like a dick, but all right, whatever.
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I can't confirm nor deny.
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I don't know. You know the nicest guy I ever
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met at Bulli FERRANI was Onny Logan that dude is
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a class act.
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Well, I felt Jack Black was the coolest dude.
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I've never met Jack Black.
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He was exactly what you expect. He was funniest shit,
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and he was just the nicest guy.
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He wasn't dressed like that dinosaur.
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Was he nould weird? Why do you have a scenario
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with dinosaur at Bulferani.
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I mean there's plenty of dinosaurs at Bullie.
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Geezer was there? Were you there when Geezer was there?
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I missed Geezer. I went home. I wasn't drinking that night.
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Oh well, see that's the problem.
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I'm not in binary as far as drinking is concerned.
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That makes any sense.
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You need to find that for me.
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Sometimes I drink sometimes I don't like I'm not like
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abstinate and I'm not an alcohol right, I mean that
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makes sense.
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So you're a non alcohol may really loves this conversation.
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I should take it.
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Do it so nobody's getting canceled tonight.
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Here's more. This is what's more important. I heard the
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teaser for your new song, did seventeen hours ago?
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Did you hear it?
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And oh my god, it's bad ass. I always wonder
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what artists, when you're doing it this long, how you
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come up with new material painfully?
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Yeah, I mean I don't know how to.
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I don't know I want to say how we come
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up with it.
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I mean, I guess it just happens.
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It's you know, what it is is it's a collection
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of stuff that we kind of play over and over
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again or whatever and try and you know, fit into
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whatever puzzle and eventually we hit it out of the park.
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Or something, you know.
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So so yeah, I mean, we we've been working on
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all kinds of new stuff and we have been for
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a while, and I'm pretty picky about it, and I
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think that, uh, what we just released was indicative of
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what a lot of the rest of what the rest
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of it's going to sound like.
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So well, then it's going to be badass, and everybody's
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got to get the album. Any hint of when the
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full thing will come out.
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We're gonna try. We're trying to finish it this year.
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Talking to some labels right now.
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Yeah, a few labels.
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Some people we talked to like more than others. And
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that's gonna be play a big partner who we go with.
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And it is important, though, isn't it absolutely? You know, like,
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because if you're gonna partner with a label, you better
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be happy with it. You better be able to have
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your creativity. Because I'm a big believer, like the business
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people should do the business part and the artists should
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do the creativity part. I just heard an interview with
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I think it was Hetfield and talking about with Kill
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Them All and they spent all those years with those songs.
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They record it and then they weren't even allowed in
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the mixing room, and they would have done it differently
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had they work.
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Sometimes that's better though, too, because as a musician sometimes.
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You get too far into it and it's too much
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in your head.
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And no objectivity. Yeah, like maybe the other person can
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see from the audience.
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You need a balance of that.
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And he's eating red fines there you go, do you
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want to join into because you were kicking ass out there.
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That's what powers all the fucking crazy drumming that he
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does it, Sugar, Yeah, on the Harry Styles, Sugar.
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I'm always amazed by drummers that can just keep going on.
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And that's some hard ship man, that's some hard work
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back there. I drummed for nine years and I sucked.
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That's why I'm doing radio.
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Oh do you want more dream tickets?
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So, folks, we are back here, you know, and this
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is what life's like back here. What else can we
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expect from you guys? Now? Moving forward? Now you've done
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your first show and and you got a teaser for music.
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Are we going to go full force back into doing
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it all?
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You're gonna announce all these shows or what?
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Well, yeah, we're we have a tour in Europe, a
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couple of weeks in Europe, and then we also have
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South America coming up and.
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Possibly Japan, and I'm sure there'll be more. There's a lot.
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It seems like there's a lot of interest right now
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and what's happening. So, uh, we're looking forward to it.
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Well, I was, I was seeing you out there tonight
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and like it was giving me flashbacks, like you guys
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were definitely tight. And I don't see a lot of
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bands from back then that can still like even what
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you're singing. That's why I said what I did, Like
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a lot of the singers can't still sing like that,
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