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Seraina Telli on Authentic Songwriting, Music Industry Realities, and Powering Through Challenges

Seraina Telli on Authentic Songwriting, Music Industry Realities, and Powering Through Challenges
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In this episode of The Adventures of Pipeman on W4CY Radio, host Pipeman interviews acclaimed Swiss artist Seraina Telli, known for her powerhouse vocals and authentic approach to songwriting. The conversation dives into the value of real musicianship, the importance of authenticity in both music and artist identity, experiences as a woman in the rock and metal scene, and the challenges (and hacks) of the modern music industry—including personal stories about battling social media and tech hurdles. Seraina Telli also shares insights about her latest live album and upcoming tour dates, emphasizing the therapeutic and passionate core of her music.Main Topics Covered

  • The importance of authenticity and "old school" songwriting
  • Challenges and realities in the modern music business
  • Artistic experimentation vs. formulaic approaches in metal and rock
  • The distinction between performing for art vs. performing for fame
  • The power of lyrics and positive messaging in rock/metal
  • Breaking gender stereotypes and confronting “mansplaining” in music
  • Embracing musical diversity and resisting genre boundaries
  • The role of self-critique, professionalism, and growth for artists
  • Behind the scenes: Social media, hacking, and digital resilience
  • Seraina Telli’s new live album and where to find her music and merch
Key Discussions & StoriesAuthentic Songwriting and Live Performance
  • Pipeman praises Seraina Telli for avoiding modern studio perfectionism, preferring real performances (01:04)
  • Seraina Telli describes her writing process: sitting down with an acoustic guitar or piano to create songs that can stand alone live (02:23)
Industry Realities & Staying Genuine
  • Discussion on how the current industry heavily relies on connections and money—being good is only part of the equation (04:02)
  • The frustration with fleeting social media fame and AI-generated content, highlighting the often superficial landscape of the music business (05:19)
Artistry vs. Ego & Professionalism
  • Exploring what it means to be a “real” professional musician—self-awareness of strengths and weaknesses (07:47)
  • Pipeman shares how he vets potential podcast guests, drawing parallels to how true musicians approach their craft (08:49)
The Role of Passion and Message
  • The difference between artists who play for love of music and those seeking rock stardom (12:45)
  • Seraina Telli highlights the importance of singing for the art, not the ego, and how this also shields her from negative criticism (12:07)
Lyrics, Motivation, and Deeper Meaning
  • Pipeman focuses on the positive, motivational nature of Seraina Telli's lyrics that empower self-determination and courage (13:50)
  • Discussing how songs may sound dark but deliver uplifting messages if you pay attention to the lyrics (14:40)
Gender, Stereotypes, and Overcoming Barriers
  • Seraina Telli openly addresses challenges faced as a woman in heavy music, such as gatekeeping and unsolicited advice from men (17:15)
  • The importance of self-confidence and fighting internalized doubts, especially for women pursuing their artistic vision (20:01)
Artist Diversity and Creative Freedom
  • Value of musical diversity—why artists like Seraina Telli refuse to be boxed into one genre (23:11)
  • Referencing bands like Bring Me The Horizon and the pressure artists face from fans to stay “in the box” (24:25)
Technology Headaches & Resilience
  • Both Seraina Telli and Pipeman share stories about their social media and YouTube accounts being hacked, and the uphill battle of dealing with automated tech support (31:51)
  • Insights into the complexities of maintaining a digital presence and the impact on music promotion (32:38)
The New Live Album & How to Connect
  • Seraina Telli announces her new live album "Green Live," recorded across multiple shows and capturing the true concert experience (29:14)
  • Discussion of energetic fan interactions and the unpredictability of live shows (28:05)
  • All merch, albums, and updates are available via Seraina Telli's social platforms and Linktree (31:29)
Notable Quotes
  • "Life isn't perfect. It's just like podcasts—don't edit the crap out of it to make it perfect. Make it real." — Pipeman (01:36)
  • "Being professional is actually pretty clear: you have to know what you do... and do it good." — Seraina Telli (07:47)
  • "If you're a true artist, the show must go on. What happened to that phrase?" — Pipeman (11:02)
  • "When I go on stage, I don't show myself—I show my work." — Seraina Telli (11:55)
  • "Let me sing. Let me do it." — Seraina Telli (18:23)
  • "Artists should play what they feel, not what they're supposed to play." — Pipeman (24:04)
  • "You can change what you like, but if you do something you don’t feel, it’s not authentic." — Seraina Telli (25:25)
Resources & Links Mentioned
  • Seraina Telli's Linktree (find all merch, albums, socials): Via Instagram bio and other social media accounts (31:36)
  • "Green Live" Album—new live recordings from the tour. Available on streaming platforms and via Seraina Telli's Linktree (29:14)
  • Instagram, Facebook, TikTok: For tour dates, updates, and direct contact (31:31)
Connect with Seraina Telli
  • Instagram/Facebook/TikTok: Find and follow for news, tour dates, and to access the Linktree for all resources (31:31)
  • YouTube: Temporarily down due to hacking, but updates will come via other social accounts (31:51)
Final Notes
  • Seraina Telli is recognized by the media as having "the best rock voice in Switzerland"—don’t miss her live or her latest album (40:11)
  • Stay tuned to Pipeman and W4CY Radio for more artist interviews and authentic conversations about the music industry


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Hey, you're listening to Adventure on W4CY Radio. This is

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the Pipe Man here on the Adventure's Pipe Man W4CY Radio.

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And I'm very excited about our next guest because.

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Man, she is a killer singer-songwriter and has some great

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new music, some tour dates.

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So let's welcome to the show Serena Telly. How are you?

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Hi, everyone. I'm great. Thanks. And you?

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Well, I'm doing great because we were just talking about

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hair and languages before the interview.

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And sunglasses. And sunglasses.

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So we already have a bond here from all those things.

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And first of all, I just want to say that

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I love... how.

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You do your songwriting. It's so, to me, old school.

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Like, I find a lot of music nowadays follows some

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kind of stupid formula and everybody has to be absolutely

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perfect in the studio, but then if they do a

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live show, they can never live up to that perfection.

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I would prefer an artist like you that writes the

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songs and, and plays it for, and, for a live

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show because life isn't perfect it's just like podcasts like

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don't edit the crap out of it to make it

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perfect make it real and that's what you're doing with

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your music making it real.

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Thank you um yeah that's actually also what i want

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to do and just uh it ultimately the other way

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around it wouldn't feel right so uh i mean i'm

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also not like um I didn't get into songwriting by

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accident so that's the thing I always wanted to do

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and I started music because I wanted to write songs

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so this is like all like one idea I had

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and I wanted to do it right and I mean

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of course we also we reproduce the stuff and I

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also use like new things like new technologies and stuff

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because it's very interesting what you can do but Like basically,

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I do it really old school. Like I sit down

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with the acoustic guitar or the piano or whatever and

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just write a song. And it works also like that.

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So you could also just perform it with an acoustic guitar.

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And something you said I really like too is, you know,

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being an artist is all about experimentation.

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Yeah, for me, yes.

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Yeah. I think it should be for everybody, to be honest.

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That's why I don't like a lot of these new

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metal bands that use a formula to create metal.

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Metal was never a formula.

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It was outside the formula.

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Exactly.

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Actually, it was outside the box and somehow it got

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into the box.

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I don't know how that happened because it never stood

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for that. There's even bands I know, like a couple

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of deathcore bands that I know that they're trying they

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try so hard to be mainstream and i'm like well

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isn't the point of death court and not be mainstream yeah.

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bands that uh that popped out and got like mainstream

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I don't know if that was like made like this

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to be mainstream. So that's also a thing that, um,

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artists sometimes don't, don't see like the, I think a

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lot of things today are not, uh, accidents like, uh, okay,

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this band is by accident. They, they got like, uh,

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discovered and got big. I think there is a lot.

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I mean, I saw a lot of things going on

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in the music business in the last years and, it's

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always about money and connections. Like making music, the music

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business is like nothing else than politics.

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Oh yeah, 100%.

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We just have to know that. So I also get

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asked a lot, why are you not a big star already?

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And it's like, this is why.

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Because you're being real, that's why. Yes, I am.

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Real and I just didn't find like, I mean, there

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has to be, people who have the right connections to

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get you where you should be. It doesn't have to

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do with, are you actually good? Of course, in the beginning, yeah,

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you need to be good and you need to have

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good songs and a good band and everything. But at

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a certain point, it doesn't matter anymore because look at

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the stars we have today. I mean, look at Rolling

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Stones magazine on Instagram, for example. I mean, sorry, the

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bullshit they actually promote there. It's like girls dancing naked

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on stage. You can go to a strip club, actually.

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That's nothing to do with music.

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Exactly.

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There we are at the point where it doesn't matter

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anymore if it's good music or not.

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That's not songwriting.

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No, that's, I mean, we shouldn't even talk about that.

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That's clear. I mean, I can also, I mean, I

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just did like this example yesterday because some guy wanted

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to do an interview and he's not an interviewer, actually.

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He's just a guy who bought like a lot of

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followers on Instagram.

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Oh my Lord.

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And I was like, no, I only do interviews with

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like real interviewer, like people who do that as a job.

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Oh, you're speaking my language right now. Oh my God.

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And then I said, okay, I mean, I can say

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to him, I can repair your car tomorrow. I can

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go to chat GPT and figure out how to repair

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a car. Just give it to me. I can do

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it for you.

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You know what I talk about all the time? Because

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it's true.

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Even in podcasting, like, listen, I was doing podcasting before

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it was even a word. I beta tested iHeartRadio's original

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podcasting network. And, you know, it's like these podcasters, they

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don't really know what they're doing. And it's all like,

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it's all smoke and mirrors and the whole followers thing.

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Like not the followers are bad, but it shouldn't be

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based on it. You should actually know what you're doing

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and have some experience. And just because you have a

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voice doesn't mean you should be necessarily being.

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A podcaster or whatever, but I say all the time that,

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you know.

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Because there's these videos out there on how to be

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a podcaster. And I always say, well, you can watch

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a video on YouTube about how to do brain surgery.

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I don't want you putting a scalpel to my head.

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Yeah, of course. I think in music, that's also a

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big problem because everyone can name themselves or call themselves

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a musician. And the thing is, Where's the point where

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you are actually a musician?

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So exactly.

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Or where's the point where you're actually professional? Some people

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say if you earn money with your music, OK, we

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can't say that in music because music is just not

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like any other job. But I mean, being professional is

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actually pretty clear what you have to be. I mean,

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you have to to know what you do. And that's

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also where like, where like this self-confidence comes from. It's,

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it's not because, um, I mean, take me for example,

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it's not, I don't think that I am like really

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good or whatever. I just know what I am doing

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because I do it for a long time and I

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studied it and I did a lot of things and

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experienced a lot. And I did also a lot of

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things not good. And I know also what I, what

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I can't do. I know what I'm not good at. And, uh,

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so I get help in this, uh, things so this

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is actually what a professional person is just knowing what

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they do and do it.

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Good exactly and i also think that like especially with

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musicians you're your own worst critic yeah anybody that has

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ego like so bad that they think they're the greatest

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are usually the ones that are.

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Not the greatest you know it's like.

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Even with podcasters, when somebody wants to be a guest

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on my show, like you were talking about, you know,

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an interviewer, I have the exact opposite. Like somebody wants

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to be a guest on my show, the first question

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I ask them is, okay, so why should you be

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on my show? And they'll say, I have great content.

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And then my answer, you know, I'm a little brutal

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because I'm from New York and New Jersey, so I

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shoot straight. And I'm like, okay, great. So to thousands

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of other podcasters out there, now what do you have?

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And they can never answer that second question. And that

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tells me their ego, not professional. Like if I asked

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you any question about writing music, you would be able

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to answer it without even thinking about it because of

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your experience. You wouldn't be like, oh, because I write

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great songs. And that would be it, you know?

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Yes. I mean, yeah, that's absolutely it. Yeah.

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Professionals always go a little deeper you know professionals they

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know their craft and they know they.

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Always have to get better at their craft and evolve.

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Yeah and in the same time they also know whatever

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happens um you can always do what you do you

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know what i mean exactly i mean even if the

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the falls apart under my feet, I can still sing. Right.

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Or technical things, technical problems, I can just take an

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acoustic guitar and play and sing for you. I mean,

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that actually also happens sometimes.

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Exactly that's real that's.

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Where like the self-confidence comes from and that you are

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actually like you're on top of the things you do

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it's not like oh i have to to like what

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should i play or how should i sing that it's

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it's more like yeah it's just what i do it's

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like making coffee in the morning or whatever.

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And it's your passion for it too like to your

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point like there was a band not that long ago

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that canceled a show because their laptops weren't working And

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I get it if you're using, I mean, I get

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it if you're using certain things, but for God's sakes,

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then improvise, man, you know, like, like do what you do.

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If you're a true artist, the show must go on.

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What happened to that phrase?

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And yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, yeah. Ah, it's, it's,

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I think also like, um, I met a lot of

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musicians on the, the road and we had some of

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it of them playing with us as well and um

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there for me there is like two types of uh

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of artists actually or the one isn't actually a real

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artist so or people who want to be on stage

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so two two types and uh the first one is

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the one who just want to show themselves you know

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like i am uh i'm the the cool guy or

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girl or whatever and i'm pretty and look at me

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what i can do Kind of. And the other one

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is the real artist, actually. It's the one who does

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it because of the art.

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Yes.

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When I go on stage, I don't show myself. I

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show my work.

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Yes.

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This is also what I have in common with the crowd.

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We both like what I do. It's not about me.

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It's about my music.

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Exactly.

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Yeah. So in the same time, it's also something that

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actually helps you to.

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Don't get too close like if you get like bad

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um comments or whatever it also doesn't go close to

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you or not that close.

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Because you're always gonna get them you know yeah.

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It's not about me it's it's it's all about what

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i do and if someone doesn't like it it's totally

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fine for me i mean of course there's.

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Assholes out there.

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They're everywhere more than often nowadays uh Yeah, they have

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a platform. I always say, similar to you, I always

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say there's two types of artists. There's the ones that

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they become an artist to become a rock star. Or

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there's those that do it because they just have so

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much love for music and they just want to play music.

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They don't care about all that other stuff.

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And to me, the one that sets out to be

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a rock star, maybe it'll get temporarily canceled.

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And it'll definitely go away.

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It does not have staying power. I reflect back to

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like the eighties and the hair metal bands, you know,

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there were some that were artists, but there were a

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lot that it was all about the look and it

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was all about this gimmick. And look, grunge knocked that

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out real quick. But now, now the metal community is

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bigger than ever. And, and that's because we, real rock

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musicians are not rock stars.

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They're just musicians.

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Yes. Yeah, absolutely. I see that as well.

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Something else I like too is your lyrics. Cause I'm

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also a motivational speaker. So I love the positivity of

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your lyrics and how they speak of self-determination, courage, staying

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true to your own path and, and all those things.

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Cause I, See, to me, lyrics are very important for

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a message, you know, and whatever that message is. And

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I love the positive message of it because I think

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that's also, you know, it's kind of people don't understand

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rock and metal a lot of times. They think it's

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all this negative stuff, but they don't bother to listen or.

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Read the lyrics at all because. Yeah.

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The lyrics will tell you it's the exact opposite a

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lot of times.

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Yeah. And sometimes, I mean, I do that, for example,

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that I create a song that sounds actually like dark

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or whatever. And in the end, the lyrics are kind

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of like uplifting.

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You need to put in that time or effort to

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really listen to the song. So that's maybe the thing

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that why it needs more time to reach actual fans

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because it's not like a party song. I don't write about, yeah,

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I feel so good and I want to dance. I mean, yeah,

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I could do that as well, but it's just not me. So, yeah,

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it goes deeper, you know.

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And it should be.

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To me, music is the best therapy there is for you,

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the artist, and for me, the listener. So if it's

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based on some bubble gum, non-reality thing, it's not going

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to have the same feeling as somebody that's speaking truth

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and going deep and emotional and passionate, you know, to

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have some real meaning to it.

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Yeah, I mean, you can also actually combine these two things.

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I have also on the new album, I have a song,

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it's called Oh, Oh, Yeah, Yeah. And the lyrics in

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the chorus seem to be like very, very simple. Like,

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I just want to sing, want to play my fucking

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song like that. But the thing is, like, if you

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really listen, if you listen to the lyrics in the verse,

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it goes so deep because the thing is that... I mean,

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I came out from this heavy metal scene and I

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love heavy metal, but it's not the only thing I

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want to do. So I just want to, I just

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always wanted to do music. So just let me do

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my music. And some people still today, they don't get

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it that it's not all about screaming on stage. You know,

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it's about like creating a whole universe on stage. And

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there is also like, there is quiet parts, there is

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slow parts, there is fast parts and If you come

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to a live show of mine, it's got everything. It's

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got like very quiet until like big rockstar moments. And

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this is just what I want to do. And the

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song is actually about that, that people try to just

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like kept me in in one way and i think

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a lot of people experience that especially like young artists

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and especially women because with women a lot of people

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especially men have the feeling that they have to help

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them you know so a young woman doesn't know what

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she want to do so this is this is kind

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of like the the thing uh that's that's in some

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man's head and um i i hear a lot of

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things um Like a lot of men come and have

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the idea that just because they are men, they know

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what I should do. But compared to... I mean, there

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are not even musicians or whatever. So, I mean, I

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studied music. I write music since years. That's the thing

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I always wanted to do. And I did it. And

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I invested like... hours and years in like playing and

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writing and singing and just because you are like some

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years older than me and you're a man you think

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that you know it better so this is kind of

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like the the thing and yeah that's that's that's what

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the whole song is about like just just let me

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let me sing let me let me do it.

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We call it over here. I don't know if they

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do over there. We call it mansplaining.

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Mansplaining.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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And then if you, if you like, if you have

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the audacity to not take this, whatever comment or tip

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or whatever, then you're arrogant.

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Oh my God. That's so stupid.

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Like to me, I love, that the gatekeeping for women

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is getting less and less. Like I was in the

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eighties metal scene and it's stupid because to me, women

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are more passionate and more emotional and that's what music is.

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And so I find like all the women that are

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in metal today, especially are so bad-ass, you know? And,

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and I love that we're seeing more and more of

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it because I, I think women do make.

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The best artists.

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They have a lot less ego about it and a

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lot more passion about it.

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Yeah, I mean, I think because there's still not many

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women doing that, that it's actually the ones who do

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it and who get visibility are, of course, the ones

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who have a lot of passion because we still have

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to go through all of this things. And one of them,

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I think, hardest things is like to just overcome your

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own idea of what you can do and what you

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can't do yes so this is something i see in

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a lot of women that we are like we we

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uh we question ourselves like all the time and i

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did it as well i mean i picked up the

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electric guitar and the first three years i was like

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oh should i do that i can't i can't play

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guitar or my sound is not like blah blah or

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whatever and then I thought okay what would Flea do

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for example I mean Flea from Red Hot Chili Peppers

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never the fuck cared about if someone didn't like his

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sound and I was like why shouldn't I do that

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I mean just because I'm a woman but the thing

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is also the comments were like really bad in the

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beginning like oh this guitar sounds shitty and blah blah

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and then I was like I was from the beginning

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I was like this is my guitar sound I want

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to sound like this And in the meantime, it's like

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you hear like it's a song. It's one of my

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songs because you also hear the guitar sound. But this

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is what you have to go through. And I just

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believe that I would get less questions about stuff like

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that if I would be a male artist.

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As a male, I agree with you. I think it's bullshit,

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you know, because... just being blunt, you know, like, because

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it should just be an artist.

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It shouldn't be a male artist, female artist. It should

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just be an artist. And if you're good, you're good.

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It doesn't even matter. I don't have to like you

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for you to be good either. Like we all have

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different tastes in music type of thing. So I think

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you should, there's so much hate out there. And so like,

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The noise. That's why I call it the noise of

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all these people on social media.

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It's like, just shut up.

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If you don't like it, why are you wasting your

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time with, hey, just go listen to something else.

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Yeah, that's what I say as well. I mean, I

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sometimes even write that in the comments. There's a lot

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of good music out there. Go somewhere else. Nobody told

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you you have to listen to my music or watch

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my posts if you don't like it.

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And I think, I love your attitude about it too,

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because I think artists need to be true to themselves.

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Because if you try to please the listeners, you're always

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going to still have to hate.

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You're not going to please anybody. And you're definitely not

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pleasing yourself.

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If you please yourself and do you, you will attract

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your tribe.

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Yeah, absolutely. I think that's the same. And I try to,

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if I write songs, I try to write songs I

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would like to listen to.

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That's the way it should be. And I love what

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you said before, too, the diversification. Like, we all like

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all types of music, even as a listener. I'm a metalhead.

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I'm a punker. But I also like all kinds of

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other stuff. It's not that, oh, I only like, I

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think it's stupid. People that like, oh, I only like

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black metal.

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You're an idiot. I mean, because how can you only

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like one thing.

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And we have different vibes? If they want to do that,

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that's also something I realized like some years back that

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there's like musicians and there's like people who just do

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what they, for example, metalers, or I don't know how

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to say that.

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It's interesting.

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I say it like that. I don't know if it's

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even a real word, but it's like metal musicians. musicians

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you know and they they just do like metal and

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that that's fine but in their own universe they think

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that they do a lot of different things and then

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I see it like from another perspective I was at

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the jazz school for example I did a lot of

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jazz funk hip-hop as well pop music whatever country music

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I did almost everything and so I see it from

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from the other perspective and I say like And no,

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this is not, this is still metal.

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I think artists should play what they feel. Artists should

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play what they feel, not what they're supposed to play.

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And I like the diversification. I think Ali from Bring

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Me to Rise and said it best in interviews because,

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you know, they got a lot of hate because all

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the different stuff they've done over the past few years.

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And he says, why do I want to write the

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same song over and over again? Like, If you're an artist,

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you want to experiment, try different things and go outside

436
00:24:34.670 --> 00:24:39.130
that box. An artist shouldn't be in a box. And

437
00:24:39.150 --> 00:24:41.079
it's ridiculous.

438
00:24:41.740 --> 00:24:43.619
So I think it's great that you do that.

439
00:24:44.339 --> 00:24:47.660
Yeah. And I think that's the hardest thing actually for

440
00:24:47.779 --> 00:24:51.650
artists to find themselves in that whole thing. Because the

441
00:24:51.670 --> 00:24:54.670
thing is, you want to create your own sound, of course.

442
00:24:54.809 --> 00:24:59.289
And you want that people recognize you for that sound.

443
00:24:59.900 --> 00:25:02.640
But in the same time, you want to grow and

444
00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:05.960
you want to try, experiment and do a lot of

445
00:25:06.019 --> 00:25:08.839
different things. And I think there is like where the

446
00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:12.920
actual magic happens, that you combine these two things, that

447
00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:16.210
you do new stuff, but still you are you. And

448
00:25:16.869 --> 00:25:21.190
this is also what authenticity is. Like some months ago,

449
00:25:21.269 --> 00:25:24.910
I was asked in an interview what authenticity is for me.

450
00:25:25.509 --> 00:25:29.619
And for me, it is that. Like you can change

451
00:25:30.099 --> 00:25:33.779
what you like, but if you do something that you

452
00:25:33.900 --> 00:25:35.980
don't feel, it's not authentic.

453
00:25:37.099 --> 00:25:37.900
And we can tell.

454
00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:43.039
We can tell when you're doing stuff, especially on stage.

455
00:25:43.079 --> 00:25:45.140
We can tell if you're just going through the motions.

456
00:25:45.980 --> 00:25:52.039
And to me, a live show and music specifically is.

457
00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:53.180
A transfer of emotion.

458
00:25:53.859 --> 00:25:57.650
So if you're not up there being authentic, If you're

459
00:25:57.710 --> 00:26:00.329
not up there having fun, if you're not up there

460
00:26:00.369 --> 00:26:03.630
doing your passion, how are we supposed to be passionate

461
00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:04.779
about it or like it?

462
00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:07.660
Yeah, I mean, the thing is also if you're like

463
00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:11.099
all the time in your head, You can't go out,

464
00:26:11.140 --> 00:26:13.440
you know, I mean, you have to communicate with people.

465
00:26:13.500 --> 00:26:17.789
So if you're like all the time thinking about you,

466
00:26:18.410 --> 00:26:20.869
what you should do or how do I look or whatever,

467
00:26:21.589 --> 00:26:24.970
then you never reach the people out there. You stay

468
00:26:25.009 --> 00:26:27.869
like on your little place on stage and people are

469
00:26:27.910 --> 00:26:31.549
just looking at you. But the thing is, if I

470
00:26:31.589 --> 00:26:33.670
perform on stage, I mean, I have a lot of

471
00:26:33.769 --> 00:26:37.970
insecurities about myself and whatever, like I think everyone does.

472
00:26:38.589 --> 00:26:39.170
We all do.

473
00:26:39.829 --> 00:26:42.390
Yeah, I mean, I think it's normal and it's also

474
00:26:42.730 --> 00:26:48.069
fine to have that and it's okay. But the moment

475
00:26:48.210 --> 00:26:52.109
I entered the stage, as soon as the show starts,

476
00:26:53.009 --> 00:26:58.440
I'm actually only with the song. And I don't care

477
00:26:58.539 --> 00:27:01.059
if my hair looks shitty or whatever because it goes

478
00:27:01.099 --> 00:27:03.779
like two minutes and I look like hell because I

479
00:27:03.859 --> 00:27:08.160
can't stand it. Um, like a normal on stage. This

480
00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:10.839
is just me. I just go wild. And so I

481
00:27:10.980 --> 00:27:14.160
just don't care anymore. And I found myself like outfits

482
00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:17.359
that covered everything so I can do whatever I want.

483
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:19.579
And I don't have to think about the outfit. That's

484
00:27:19.619 --> 00:27:23.220
something I had to do to, to just be there

485
00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:25.920
for the people. So it's, it's about that.

486
00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:27.380
I love that.

487
00:27:27.420 --> 00:27:30.460
I always say for like artists, true artists, I get

488
00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:34.170
up on stage. once they start that show, once the

489
00:27:34.230 --> 00:27:37.509
mic is on or what have you, it's like an

490
00:27:37.589 --> 00:27:38.509
out of body.

491
00:27:38.230 --> 00:27:40.170
Experience, you know, type of thing.

492
00:27:40.210 --> 00:27:40.420
Yeah.

493
00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:40.960
Kind of.

494
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:41.240
Yeah.

495
00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:45.539
Go into this zone that, and even for me as

496
00:27:45.579 --> 00:27:48.420
a radio person, you know, as soon as the mic

497
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:51.740
turns on, there's a switch in my head and I

498
00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:54.559
don't even think about it. Like I don't need notes.

499
00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:56.720
I don't need a script. I don't need to think

500
00:27:56.759 --> 00:28:01.970
about anything. I'm just being me. And, and, and that, that, And.

501
00:28:02.150 --> 00:28:05.029
In that mode and that vibe right then.

502
00:28:05.089 --> 00:28:05.349
Yeah.

503
00:28:05.890 --> 00:28:05.990
Yeah.

504
00:28:06.029 --> 00:28:09.630
And you were here to actually also receive because sometimes

505
00:28:09.710 --> 00:28:12.869
we had, for example, we had the first part of

506
00:28:12.930 --> 00:28:16.119
the tour in Germany. And I mean, the crowd was

507
00:28:16.170 --> 00:28:19.960
sometimes so funny that I actually had to stop because

508
00:28:20.019 --> 00:28:23.920
I was laughing so hard. So we really we had

509
00:28:23.980 --> 00:28:27.359
like this thing. But I also want to to get

510
00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:30.859
the crowd in, you know, so. that they, they, that

511
00:28:30.900 --> 00:28:33.099
they want to do stuff like that, that they want

512
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:35.779
to like make me laugh or whatever. So, because I

513
00:28:35.819 --> 00:28:39.009
can also, I can have it. So whatever comes from,

514
00:28:39.230 --> 00:28:42.710
from there, I can kind of have it. So even

515
00:28:42.769 --> 00:28:45.289
if it means I have to throw someone from the

516
00:28:45.329 --> 00:28:47.769
stage because they can't behave or whatever.

517
00:28:47.789 --> 00:28:50.769
That's great.

518
00:28:51.730 --> 00:28:55.450
Happened also. So, um, yeah, but, but I think that's,

519
00:28:55.809 --> 00:28:59.200
that gives like a lot of, um, security and, um,

520
00:28:59.920 --> 00:29:03.579
and like peace to, to go on stage.

521
00:29:03.700 --> 00:29:05.819
And yeah, absolutely.

522
00:29:06.380 --> 00:29:09.309
And so tell us more about the new album, uh,

523
00:29:09.420 --> 00:29:12.390
and then your dates that you have, you know, following

524
00:29:12.430 --> 00:29:13.609
the drop of the new album.

525
00:29:14.750 --> 00:29:18.470
Yeah. I mean, um, I released green actually almost one

526
00:29:18.509 --> 00:29:21.549
year ago. So in the next month it will be

527
00:29:21.650 --> 00:29:25.450
one year. And, um, but we just released a green

528
00:29:25.529 --> 00:29:29.299
life album where, um, there is like How many songs?

529
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:35.200
Like 12 or 13? I don't know. You got to check. Yeah,

530
00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:38.630
songs we've actually played on a tour. So it's not

531
00:29:38.690 --> 00:29:42.589
like one show. It's uh it's it's several shows combined

532
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:45.730
in this album which makes it very very funny so

533
00:29:45.750 --> 00:29:49.490
there is like uh hello hamburg or uh hello london

534
00:29:49.589 --> 00:29:53.490
or whatever i love that Yeah, it's really fun to

535
00:29:53.529 --> 00:29:56.750
listen to, actually. And we just put like all the

536
00:29:56.769 --> 00:30:00.470
songs together, like the best tracks we had from all

537
00:30:00.509 --> 00:30:03.869
the shows we did on this tour. And yeah, I mean,

538
00:30:03.930 --> 00:30:07.289
it's really cool to have this live album because for me,

539
00:30:07.430 --> 00:30:10.470
like the whole thing, why I do music, it leads

540
00:30:10.549 --> 00:30:13.869
to being on stage and playing the song forever. songs

541
00:30:13.930 --> 00:30:18.480
for the people. So, and we actually did it that

542
00:30:18.619 --> 00:30:22.640
we could capture this, this whole energy in this live album,

543
00:30:23.180 --> 00:30:26.039
which is amazing because I think it's, it's like the,

544
00:30:27.460 --> 00:30:31.329
the highest point for, for this, for this whole project that,

545
00:30:31.950 --> 00:30:34.609
that the people actually hear how it sounds live. And

546
00:30:34.910 --> 00:30:37.990
we got a lot of response to the live album and,

547
00:30:38.009 --> 00:30:42.839
and it's really cool that, Most of the reviews mentioned

548
00:30:42.980 --> 00:30:47.400
the energy, that the energy comes across and the whole

549
00:30:48.049 --> 00:30:50.869
vibe is there. So I'm very happy that we could

550
00:30:50.890 --> 00:30:54.730
capture that. So you can get the album now. And

551
00:30:54.809 --> 00:30:58.930
if you saw us live somewhere, then you maybe feel

552
00:30:58.950 --> 00:31:05.769
like taking back to this moment where we actually experienced

553
00:31:05.809 --> 00:31:06.589
that thing together.

554
00:31:08.059 --> 00:31:08.579
There you go.

555
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:10.920
And then you have a bunch of live dates that

556
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:14.700
are coming up as well. So tell everybody how they

557
00:31:14.740 --> 00:31:17.400
can reach out to you and check out all the

558
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:21.480
live tour dates. Get the album. Buy your merch. They

559
00:31:21.500 --> 00:31:23.380
can't listen to my show unless they buy your merch.

560
00:31:25.789 --> 00:31:28.450
And anything else that we haven't covered.

561
00:31:29.309 --> 00:31:33.329
Yeah, I mean, I'm on social media. I'm pretty active

562
00:31:33.410 --> 00:31:37.970
on Instagram and also Facebook and TikTok. And there is also,

563
00:31:38.029 --> 00:31:41.339
there is a link in my bio for, you reach

564
00:31:41.420 --> 00:31:43.940
my link tree actually, and there is everything you need.

565
00:31:44.539 --> 00:31:46.779
So you can get my merchandise there. You can get

566
00:31:46.839 --> 00:31:52.500
like the newest albums or streaming platforms. My YouTube is

567
00:31:52.619 --> 00:31:55.680
actually down right now because someone hacked.

568
00:31:55.500 --> 00:31:58.480
It, which is.

569
00:31:58.980 --> 00:32:03.220
Really annoying. So I'm fighting to get it back. So

570
00:32:03.259 --> 00:32:06.960
they took it down actually for the moment.

571
00:32:07.019 --> 00:32:09.680
I've not only had that happen, my heart's out to you,

572
00:32:09.700 --> 00:32:11.920
but right now what I'm dealing with, that's why I said,

573
00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:14.900
oh my God, I was heading to Loudern Life to

574
00:32:14.940 --> 00:32:17.359
do media coverage at this festival. I was getting on

575
00:32:17.380 --> 00:32:22.920
a plane and somebody in Vietnam hacked my Facebook and

576
00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:25.019
I went on real quick and tried to change the

577
00:32:25.059 --> 00:32:31.900
password and immediately Facebook disabled permanently my Facebook, my Meta,

578
00:32:32.410 --> 00:32:38.210
my Instagram, my WhatsApp, my messenger and my threads all

579
00:32:38.309 --> 00:32:40.769
in one fail swoop. And then I couldn't talk to

580
00:32:40.789 --> 00:32:43.890
a human, like I'm verified. And I still couldn't talk

581
00:32:43.930 --> 00:32:48.410
to a human anywhere. Luckily, a client of mine knows

582
00:32:48.470 --> 00:32:52.200
somebody on the inside that works for them. And he

583
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:57.539
did like, he did some help. So this morning, like

584
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:03.299
not long before this interview, My Instagram magically came back up.

585
00:33:03.380 --> 00:33:04.849
The rest of it's not up yet.

586
00:33:05.609 --> 00:33:06.329
Back up yet.

587
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:09.230
But I'm hoping we get there because I couldn't even

588
00:33:09.269 --> 00:33:11.329
talk to a human to get anything done. It was

589
00:33:11.369 --> 00:33:15.710
that stupid AI bot, the meta bot. And it's like,

590
00:33:16.569 --> 00:33:19.230
it's amazing how somebody could hack me and they take

591
00:33:19.289 --> 00:33:21.410
down almost everything I have.

592
00:33:21.470 --> 00:33:22.049
I was left with.

593
00:33:22.150 --> 00:33:25.930
It's crazy. And like in a second, it was kind

594
00:33:25.950 --> 00:33:29.369
of similar in my case because I... We were on

595
00:33:29.410 --> 00:33:34.470
the road back from the German shows. And I accidentally

596
00:33:34.509 --> 00:33:40.210
hit the YouTube button for the app. And then I

597
00:33:40.250 --> 00:33:43.210
was like, okay, I go check. I didn't even want

598
00:33:43.230 --> 00:33:44.730
to go in. And then I was like, okay, I

599
00:33:44.730 --> 00:33:46.910
have to log in. And I was like, okay, shit,

600
00:33:46.970 --> 00:33:49.230
I do it tomorrow or something like that. And then

601
00:33:49.289 --> 00:33:52.609
like 30 hours later, I tried to log in. And there,

602
00:33:53.470 --> 00:33:56.470
usually they send like this code to your phone, right? Yeah.

603
00:33:56.650 --> 00:34:00.630
And there was like another phone. And I was like,

604
00:34:01.150 --> 00:34:04.710
what the hell? I saw like a galaxy, whatever. And

605
00:34:04.730 --> 00:34:09.210
I was like, who's that? It was really scary. And

606
00:34:09.230 --> 00:34:10.829
I couldn't reach it anymore. And then I was on

607
00:34:10.869 --> 00:34:13.940
my account. And it was still there. But there was

608
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:16.559
like the header was changed. And like this Bitcoin thing.

609
00:34:16.980 --> 00:34:19.519
And then another 24 hours later, they started like a

610
00:34:19.539 --> 00:34:23.420
live stream. And people were writing me, what's going on?

611
00:34:23.460 --> 00:34:26.139
We received a Bitcoin live stream.

612
00:34:26.750 --> 00:34:29.250
I had people asking me if I was pissed off

613
00:34:29.269 --> 00:34:30.719
at them. They thought I blocked them.

614
00:34:31.780 --> 00:34:33.940
Yeah, I mean, yeah, this is really, so I try

615
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:38.760
to inform people. The thing is, like, YouTube is not

616
00:34:38.820 --> 00:34:45.309
like this communicational social media, then Facebook or Instagram would

617
00:34:45.349 --> 00:34:49.309
be worse, of course, yeah. So it's fine, but I

618
00:34:49.369 --> 00:34:52.949
actually have some releases scheduled and I can't do anything

619
00:34:53.050 --> 00:34:53.269
right now.

620
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:56.460
Oh my God. My heart goes out to you.

621
00:34:56.539 --> 00:34:59.900
Like, and it's tough to like, when you do stuff

622
00:34:59.940 --> 00:35:01.619
like we do, like, like I said, I was on

623
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:03.480
the way to the festival, so I couldn't really deal

624
00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:06.579
with it at the festival because, you know, I was

625
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:11.130
too busy doing interviews and all that stuff. So it's like, okay,

626
00:35:11.230 --> 00:35:13.230
I just got to wait till I get back. And like,

627
00:35:13.750 --> 00:35:17.269
you know, usually at festival, my job is to promote

628
00:35:17.309 --> 00:35:22.929
the festival on my social media. I'm like, I know, man, like,

629
00:35:23.889 --> 00:35:26.250
this world we live in with all this stuff where

630
00:35:26.269 --> 00:35:28.329
they can just push a button and take all your

631
00:35:28.429 --> 00:35:31.150
crap away after all the work you've done, you know,

632
00:35:31.690 --> 00:35:36.429
it's unbelievable, but I just stayed calm. There's nothing I

633
00:35:36.449 --> 00:35:39.530
can do about it. I already resolved myself. If I

634
00:35:39.550 --> 00:35:42.059
couldn't do anything, well, I guess I'll have to start over.

635
00:35:42.099 --> 00:35:45.219
That's a pain in the ass, but Oh, well, but.

636
00:35:45.139 --> 00:35:47.639
Yeah, that won't happen.

637
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:50.539
I was very excited when I woke up and I said,

638
00:35:50.909 --> 00:35:53.230
I saw I could get on my Instagram because I

639
00:35:53.230 --> 00:35:58.250
was like, oh, finally something. It's even weird. WhatsApp, they

640
00:35:58.329 --> 00:36:00.750
shut down on me. Like I go on, I do,

641
00:36:00.909 --> 00:36:02.639
I go on tour and I do coverage at music

642
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:06.000
festivals all over North America, UK and Europe.

643
00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:08.500
And so when I'm out of the country, I need

644
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:10.940
that shit. And it's my own phone number. They shut

645
00:36:10.980 --> 00:36:13.699
down my own, like it's the actual phone number on

646
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:16.420
my phone. And they shut down that. And here's what

647
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:22.019
happened too is I, Whatever happened, there was an age thing.

648
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:27.900
So it said to me, like, until I'm 13 years old,

649
00:36:28.059 --> 00:36:29.559
I cannot reactivate.

650
00:36:29.579 --> 00:36:34.780
I'm like, I think I'm a little older than 13, okay?

651
00:36:36.230 --> 00:36:40.690
Maybe I act 13, but I'm a little older than 13.

652
00:36:40.690 --> 00:36:44.369
I mean, if they count, like, the age of your mind,

653
00:36:44.449 --> 00:36:45.250
then maybe.

654
00:36:45.969 --> 00:36:47.050
Yeah, exactly.

655
00:36:47.070 --> 00:36:50.199
So... Now it's a pain in the ass, but I

656
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:54.429
hear a lot of things about that actually. And I

657
00:36:54.469 --> 00:36:56.889
don't know if it's like just a period.

658
00:36:57.590 --> 00:37:01.429
It's the AI. No, it's the AI.

659
00:37:01.829 --> 00:37:05.500
Because what happens is the AI will just notice things

660
00:37:05.539 --> 00:37:09.699
and have no human thinking or critical thinking and just

661
00:37:09.860 --> 00:37:12.079
shut you off. And then if you can't talk to

662
00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:15.300
a human, because it's the humans that have to fix it.

663
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:16.480
Yes.

664
00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:16.719
Yeah.

665
00:37:16.780 --> 00:37:17.300
In the end.

666
00:37:17.340 --> 00:37:17.539
Yeah.

667
00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:21.099
I mean, that's the problem with Meta. I am really

668
00:37:21.139 --> 00:37:25.010
not a big fan of Meta. So it's always like

669
00:37:25.050 --> 00:37:29.190
a struggle to even change like the slightest thing. Right.

670
00:37:30.090 --> 00:37:32.050
And then you can't do it or you're not allowed.

671
00:37:32.110 --> 00:37:34.659
And you're like, man, it's just my page. So whatever.

672
00:37:34.780 --> 00:37:36.340
And it's always like so complicated.

673
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:38.960
And it's all connected because they own most of them.

674
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:41.559
Like that's what happened to me. It's like they just

675
00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:43.179
shut down everything.

676
00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:43.760
Yeah.

677
00:37:43.780 --> 00:37:43.960
Yeah.

678
00:37:44.940 --> 00:37:45.480
Oh my God.

679
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:49.139
But for me, it's, it's even like the, the Google, um,

680
00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:52.969
mail account, they actually hacked. So I can't, I can't

681
00:37:53.030 --> 00:37:56.789
log into that. So, um, but luckily I, I work

682
00:37:56.829 --> 00:37:59.510
a lot with Google drive, like for business stuff. And

683
00:37:59.630 --> 00:38:04.869
I have like two Google, um, mail, no addresses. And

684
00:38:05.010 --> 00:38:07.250
that's the good thing. It's, it's not the other one

685
00:38:07.329 --> 00:38:10.389
because otherwise we would really be fucked because everything is

686
00:38:10.429 --> 00:38:12.949
like on my, on my Google drive. So yeah.

687
00:38:13.309 --> 00:38:14.960
Um, Exactly.

688
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:18.360
Well, yeah, let's, let's see. I, I, I got lucky actually,

689
00:38:18.380 --> 00:38:22.190
because I checked it out with chat GPT, like really fast, like, okay,

690
00:38:22.429 --> 00:38:25.650
this is like the information I got. What can I do? And, uh,

691
00:38:25.710 --> 00:38:27.969
we tried a lot of things that in the end, the, uh,

692
00:38:28.110 --> 00:38:31.750
it lead, it led me to, uh, to, uh, to

693
00:38:31.769 --> 00:38:34.909
a webpage where I actually can like, uh, open a

694
00:38:34.969 --> 00:38:38.449
chat about it and ask me to do some stuff.

695
00:38:38.489 --> 00:38:41.150
And then they actually reported it. And later I got

696
00:38:41.210 --> 00:38:45.440
an email from an actual person. who said that they

697
00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:51.840
relocated the problem to a group of people who are

698
00:38:51.900 --> 00:38:55.639
actually managing stuff like that. So I hope they can

699
00:38:55.679 --> 00:39:00.530
do something, but I don't know how long. It'll happen.

700
00:39:00.550 --> 00:39:04.590
I had one of my YouTube channels shut down several

701
00:39:04.650 --> 00:39:09.380
years back. It was gone for like three years and

702
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:12.679
then one day it just popped back up three years later.

703
00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:19.510
Like they permanently closed my YouTube and then they realized,

704
00:39:19.590 --> 00:39:21.550
I guess, three years later that they screwed up.

705
00:39:22.630 --> 00:39:27.570
Okay, cool. I can't wait three years.

706
00:39:28.030 --> 00:39:30.289
Yeah, you can't wait three years for sure. sure.

707
00:39:30.309 --> 00:39:35.130
I create a backup YouTube.

708
00:39:36.110 --> 00:39:36.750
Exactly.

709
00:39:36.929 --> 00:39:39.969
I try to keep you up to date about the

710
00:39:40.050 --> 00:39:44.400
YouTube stuff, but yeah, that's sadly the thing right now.

711
00:39:45.019 --> 00:39:47.739
The good news is they can't take away your music

712
00:39:48.139 --> 00:39:49.380
and it's badass. No.

713
00:39:49.730 --> 00:39:52.190
So everybody's got to check out the new album.

714
00:39:53.110 --> 00:39:57.730
And also, I just want to say that to let

715
00:39:57.769 --> 00:40:01.309
the listeners know that they really, if they've never heard you,

716
00:40:01.329 --> 00:40:03.510
they have to hear you because a lot of media

717
00:40:03.690 --> 00:40:07.110
outlets have been describing you as the best rock voice

718
00:40:07.190 --> 00:40:08.050
in Switzerland.

719
00:40:08.969 --> 00:40:11.699
Oh, thank you.

720
00:40:11.719 --> 00:40:14.179
So they have to check you out. And I hope

721
00:40:14.300 --> 00:40:17.500
I see you live somewhere in the world, too. So

722
00:40:17.900 --> 00:40:20.969
I'm looking forward to that because. You are a badass.

723
00:40:21.340 --> 00:40:24.349
And thank you for making us great music, being a

724
00:40:24.550 --> 00:40:27.070
real musician and a real artist.

725
00:40:27.210 --> 00:40:29.070
And thanks for being on the Adventures of Pipe Man.

726
00:40:29.829 --> 00:40:32.150
Thank you so much. And thanks for having me. And

727
00:40:32.389 --> 00:40:34.250
it was really, really cool talking to you.

728
00:40:35.269 --> 00:40:35.670
Ditto.

729
00:40:36.170 --> 00:40:38.630
We'll have to do it again. Anything you need, you

730
00:40:38.670 --> 00:40:42.670
let me know. And you send me or have Tom

731
00:40:42.690 --> 00:40:47.090
send me MP3s or WAV files of any of your

732
00:40:47.150 --> 00:40:49.550
music and I'll put it in a rotation on my stations.

733
00:40:50.449 --> 00:40:51.570
Awesome. Really cool.

734
00:40:53.050 --> 00:40:54.010
Let's see you soon.

735
00:40:54.789 --> 00:40:56.130
See you soon. Thanks.

736
00:40:57.929 --> 00:41:03.050
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pikeman on

737
00:41:03.400 --> 00:41:03.860
W4CY radio.