Shiprocked, South Florida Fair, RenFest, NILE, Roadie My Documentary

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0:50 It's time for the adventures. You'll fight me. I'm going before see White I Colm list. PM beach is number one internet radio station. Here's your host, fight Man. Yo. Welcome to the Adventures of pipe Man here on W four Cyradio W four cy dot com. And we got a really killer show today because it's all about the Pipemin radio tour. We are starting in a couple of days, actually we started a couple days ago. We're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about an interview we had locally here in Fort Laurerdale at the Culture Room where we went to a Badass Show, and then we're getting ready for Shiprock only a couple more days. So we got that going on, and we got some more announcements and we have a very special interview today on the show. If you look at my background there. Okay, So this is the coolest documentary ever.

1:44 It's called Roady My Documentary and basically it's from the crew and the Roady's point of view. And let me tell you, if you see up there, the trailer alone won awards, got mentioned forward. I mean like there are lots of accolades, and I watched it. It's it's amazing to me. It was just like bringing me back to my days. Because I bet you didn't notice, but I too was a roadie. I ain't get paid to do it. I just did it because I wanted to go to shows. And that's how you got this show and got backstage and all that. But we got and then it's some kind of special day today, but I don't know what it is because the person in charge has to come on the show to tell us. So let's bring on the incomparable swamp sweaty nut.

2:43 Well, Hello, and I have to tell. You you are looking so much better in twenty twenty five. Okay, like, whatever you're doing, keep doing it, because this is the best you've ever looked today. Well, thank you, thank you. It must be the glasses or the hat. You know. That is, of course, because it's National Hat Day. Whoa well is our other pipe nut Studio nut wearing a hat on hat Day. I was gonna wear a hat too, and then I took it off. Took it off. Yeah, no I did. I was gonna wear a hat.

3:25 But here's the thing I was already complaining on social media this morning of like I was driving, okay, So I had a neck injection last week, okay, because I was going on ship Rocked and you know, all those years of headbanging, I have some issues. So I when got shot, like you know, like an athlete. I got shot so I could go on ship Rocked and I could and so I could headbang and mash. Okay, and so I had to do the follow up appointment this morning. Okay, get an in the pipe jeep. Okay, it's sixty two degrees out sixty two degrees. I'm wearing shorts, I'm wearing a T shirt, and I'm driving by people in their vehicle Okay, they're in their vehicle and they're wearing like they're dressed like they're in New York at Christmas time. Okay, they got like overcoats on. I saw somebody wearing an overcoat.

4:30 It's funny, but AI I think is affecting the real world, because just yesterday I was telling my daughter like that, I was watching this show and it reminds me. You know, the one thing I do miss about living in a winter climate is wearing an overcoat. Like I used to like have like one for each day of the week up north, but wow, I don't have I don't have any now because there's no need to wear one ever in Florida. Scarves it's sixty two degrees people, seriously, and these I bet these are the same people, okay that were in their cars buy themselves wearing something over their mouth, just saying I mean because like I hate to inform you South Floridians, it's not the old people, by the way, it's not the old people that's the weird part. It's the young people. Because we tray out of guarden hoses and you guys have to buy fifty two dollars bottles of water Okay, so this is why. But it's like, come on, man, like it's not it's not even cool out at that point yet. Okay, And everybody can hate and all that that I'm saying this, but at the

6:02 end of the day, you're being a little ridiculous. Okay, I'll give you a hoodie, I'll give you jeans. I'm not giving you a park Okay, Like. I mean, it's as coold as he's gonna get. Right, So if you made the investment in buying something, you have to use it whenever you can get. In your car and drive somewhere colder. Like right right now, even Georgia is like snowing. Did you hear about that? It's snowing in Atlanta. Ooh that's cool. Let's go. I'd like to ski in Atlanta, like down the roadway, down the main roadway. Yeah. Like they were traveling literally like they were stranded on the roads because they didn't know how to drive in snow, so they just kept sleeping and sliding. So you see like drone shots of like just a bunch of cars on the road and people like trying to walk the snow.

6:51 Hey, we're gonna have a little fun here. For a second. Okay, because my hairstylist is texted me like the whole show, so I'm gonna text her. I'm gonna do like voice text so everybody can hear me. Oh now, it's like just quoting everything I'm saying. Hey, y stop that fag, well while you do. That and ya well, speaking of cold, it's also National Strawberry ice Cream Day, so you know, since it's so cold in Florida that you have to wear a freaking coat, you might as well go get you some strawberry ice cream. Okay, Hey, Bella, call this number because I can't text right now. Five six' one six two three nine four two nine call me, now please.

7:50 Better she should know better than to call, you because she's been around long enough to. Know, yeah But i've done it to her a. While and people get, Comfortable like nobody remembers nine to eleven half the. Time, okay people get. Comfortable so, listen here's the funniest. Thing i'm reading all this stuff for Ship rock last. Night, okay, okay so Ship rocks it's. Starting the pre party is on the, eighteen and then what we, like Like kramer like take, off you, know on the, nineteenth BUT i was readingwind of the activities was like the dating, game like the seventies dating, game and do you remember? Rebel that's the perfect REASON i she should call.

8:38 In you have it ready if she calls, Right, YEAH i have it. Ready i'm GLAD i told you ahead of. Time, yeah appreciate. It. Now so how much heads heads up time do you? Need when's the two seconds? Enough? Yeah that was? Plenty, okay? Good, yeah see there's THIS. I had a second to. There there's a difference between a professional AND i don't know what you would call it google ice YET i don't. Know, well, hey it's Also National Fresh Squeeze Juice, day so for those health, flowers y'all should go get you some fresh squeeze. Juice that's not all, healthy always, healthy so let's not go.

9:21 There there's a. Lot of there's a lot of sugars in most, fruits but if you don't add, it if don't add any, sugar. Then you'll be. Good and if you squeeze it fresh from the, juice the fruit itself. DIFFERENT i see tell us. More it's so. Interesting so, ShipRocked ship rock ship rock ship. Rocked, okay, THERE i don't even. Know you can try going to their website and see if they have ain't cabins. LEFT i don't even know at this, point but if you, do try and ENTER w four cy and you'll get one hundred dollars of on. Board But i'm not sure if they're sold out or not right.

10:02 Now. Okay so you know how bands when they go out on, tour they do like a warm up. SHOW i was talking about this in an, interview like they'll go play a show in a club like where nobody knows to warm. Up you know What i'm talking. About you guys know What i'm talking. About. Yep, yeah and shaking your head wasn't enough, level like some people are just listening to the. Show, Okay and so, anyway that's WHAT i, Did, OKAY i. DID i did a warm up. Gig no so. Seriously one of my favorite venues In South, florida The Culture. Room seen so many great shows, there AND i love doing press. There there's others near there not so, much but that. One every TIME i will help them and promote.

10:51 It. WELL a band THAT i interviewed At grasspop In june was playing at The Culture, room SO i automatically reached out To Napalm records AND i was, like, hey let's do, this and, so, YEAH i was down at the show this it Was. SATURDAY i was down at the Show saturday, night and oh what badass? Showed or four. Bands you're gonna have to check out the. Interview the band Is. Nile it was brutal death metal and oh my, god it's well it's brutal technical death, metal which it means they're amazing. Musician so you have to check out the.

11:36 Interview you, know remember you ventures Pipe, man Pipe man The pit podcasts and there's also positively Pipe man all On iHeartRadio or anywhere you listen to. Podcasts like Pipe man is. Annoying he's, everywhere, right. Rebel absolutely, everywhere. And opposed to one who is like one is that the ninja that is everywhere but nobody knows he's. Everywhere he's like in the shadows ninja. Nut if you were going to be, somewhere where would it be.

12:18 One i'm going in bed. Sleeping it's fricking one. Fifteen see that's the problem with the younger. Generation Man like it's cold, man it's cold. OUT i want to be in under the. Coverage it's like seventy three degrees. Right now In. Florida, jesus that's cold for us MAN i. Need i'm also going to give a shout out to local surf shop WHERE i got my new pipe, board BUT i haven't used it yet because it's been pretty. Cold and, like IF i go a cold weather, Climate i'll put a wet suit. On but IF i live in warm weather, Climb I'M i don't need to do it when it's. Called i'll just wait a few. Days it'll be warm.

13:05 Again, look it looks like they're eighty five. Wed wednesday eighty five. In. Louisiana it's eighty, Five, no fifty. Eight, yeah they just read it backwards for a Fun. So read anything. BACKWARDS i showed it to. You you said you don't know how to. Read we got more stuff going on, There, Okay so we are also doing media for The South Florida fair once. Again we took a few years off because Pipe man's been out of the country and you, know so Now i'm. Here AM i going for? That do you want to go to? That do you need a?

13:49 Photographer DO i need a? PHOTOGRAPHER i do, not but we COULD i could always ask her if we could add you on as another media. Person but yet they changed the rules this. Year every other year you got like just for the whole. Fair now it's you have to pick. Days so we could talk about. That i'm sure the listeners don't give a shit about this. Conversation, OKAY i can take some really good blurry pictures for. You, yeah, WHAT i can take some really good blurry pictures for. You, Perfect that's exactly what we. Want that, way nobody knows what the pictures are, of because we don't want anybody to. Know you can look at the, pictures but we don't want you to know where it's what it's. Of, Okay so we Got South Florida. Fair i'll be. THERE i might be in.

14:46 Interviewing spread the dub very exciting because there's some badass, reggae and then another return to another festival In South. Florida And i've been away from Because i've been out a. Country it's one of my. Favorite in, fact a Shirt i'm wearing right now is from. There in, fact the Glasses i'm wearing is from. There in, fact my way of protecting myself in my home is from there. On it's a. Dagger i'm, Like, DEXTER i don't own a.

15:27 GUN i don't need a. Gun you come in my, HOUSE i am going to take a dagger to your, chest Like. Dexter, NO i actually, won't BUT i. DO i hang it on the wall actually that way when they come. In it's kind of, like, uh it's kind of like garlic with. Vampires this is this is the garlic to the people try to break. In and THEN i have this AND i was gonna wear it during the show and during the, interview you know with the. MIC i don't know if you can see, it BUT i was getting very afraid of it getting very close to my. Eye, okay so you got a, backscratcher looks like, right.

16:10 Yeah, yeah. Exactly and that's a pretty sharp life. There SO i started to do the interview That i'm about to talk, about and the blade was getting like this to my eye And i'm, like, yeah fuck. That and so, anyway and these are my steampunk. Sunglasses. Okay so AND i have exciting. NEWS i have very exciting news for you about. Steampunk, Okay so WHAT i just did an interview before this show with the person that produces The renfest here In South florida and it's the thirty third year anniversary and Pipe man will beat her to cover a day of all kinds of new, stuff changes and some surprise other. Stuff all these THINGS i really want to tell, you But i'll let him tell. You it'll be in the. Interview look on the podcast outlets for that interview about The Florida Renaissance. Festival. BADASS i can't.

17:23 Wait it's so. EXCITING i love, That. Okay so that's on the Pipe Man Radio. Tour and then ALSO i will be returning TO na that's The National Association broadcasters is the absolute biggest conference in the world for, broadcasting, PODCASTING, tv, radio, streaming all of. It it takes over the whole Convention center In Las. Vegas like it's, unbelievable even for. Me it's almost, overwhelming like you can't get through the whole.

18:04 Thing it's so. Big So i'll be there In april on the Pipe Man Radio. Tour but right now we want to take a tour talk about some, roadies, okay and to talk about cruise because without the, cruise you don't have these, festivals you don't have these. Concerts and they're the heroes that are behind the. Scenes and you, know back in my day in the eighties WHEN i was a, roadie there was a lot debauchery and you, know, shit thank god that they don't have records Of thank, GOD i couldn't be in this documentary because there's no record of WHAT i did back. Then but here's the. Thing, okay they're professionals. Nowadays that's the one Thing i'll give to a younger. Generation they actually take the arts. Seriously they may not take business, seriously but so they just transferred it from business to. Arts but, no, seriously it's a different world in the music world. Nowadays so we want to pay homage to some of the people that are the most important people that without them there would be no music festivals or live music or concerts or.

19:23 Anything and that is the, cruise including the. Roadies so we have a very cool documentary Called roadie my, documentary and we are going to see it right now because, well not the. DOCUMENTARY i interviewed the producer and brainchild of this great. Documentary oh hold, on we're getting a call, Now, uh we're getting a. Call we're going to call, Hello, Hello, Hello.

20:05 Hello better not be WHAT i didn't hear. YOU i only heard better not be what'd you? Say And? Joy better not be on the. Radio Number you are. Absolutely on the. Radio hold, on, shoot she fell. Off you want me to call her? Back, yeah call her. BACK i better not be on the. Radio that is something to. Hear people should know. Better better not be on the. Radio but you, are my. Dear don't know what time it. Is it's Pike man.

20:51 Time there comes, Yo. Bella no, answer she knows, Anyway, okay But i'm gonna outsmart. Her oh my, GOD i better not be on the. Radio, well well you might have a little delay and WHAT i was just doing. Mhm she.

21:35 Knows she's not even gonna answer. It she. Will she can't hear. Us not on your, phone you can hear, us and if you have it on, speakerphone we can hear. Her when she's never been bashful like, that well. Today she. Is, hey if you're, Listening, bella that was a dumb move BECAUSE i was going to promote you and. Everything so, see ghosting it's not necessarily. Beneficial maybe she just lost reception or. Something watch for if she calls. Back, uh, well it won't. Matter we're gonna just. Play in the, interview WITH. Tj hoffman About roady my. Documentary hey, listen stay.

22:33 Tuned i'll be On shiprock next. WEEK i might even do it live From, shiprock so pay. Attention but and then during the following week we're going to be On remember three days a, week not eight days a. Week that's The beatles Pipe man's three days a. Week but, anyway, okay tune in one Pm eastern, TIME w four Cy radio four Or sey dot. Com thanks for putting up with all my bullshit today and thanks for my pipe nuts for saving the, show you, know because without them, this none of this would. HAPPEN i would just be sitting here talking to myself in my padded. Room that would be get you. Know so what do you? Think are you? Ready?

23:23 One? Ready all? Right here it is the interview About rody my. Doctor M, yeah, questions, yeah verse talk a little. Bit give me a quick synopsis of your day when you get to the. Venue, OKAY i got a serious LIKE i, mean not, lying like what my day consists of WHAT i? Do this world of that ratory man is this little. Bubble we can do whatever we. Want and there's lots of times where we did the touring world went for a bunch of out laws to totally. Professional everybody's implacable in this business unless your name's on the.

24:07 Ticket no, sex dog sex. Sex. Hey, hey hey, Guys hey. Guys, YES i pause the interview because she's calling. Back all, right so we'll bring her on the. Show are you? There? Rebel mic is? Muted, hey, ed mute your, Mike? Rebel what's wrong with all?

24:47 Right i'm here all. Right see this is WHY i love live, radio because we could just fuck the whole show up in two. Seconds hold, on, okay talk a little, bit guys WHILE i guess. Her all, right so it looks pretty. Cool anterbe. Started. Awesome we could have paused at a better, moment, THOUGH i, know, right like a couple of seconds before this would have been, okay. You know Which i'm talking. About, yeah, yeah. Totally some things actually do. Happen and if you don't, know rewind rewind a couple of seconds before we paused.

25:28 You if you, know you, know, okay let's talk for like a minute or, two because now she didn't. ANSWER i didn't answer her, either, though so we're being. FAIR i WANT i didn't want to answer till she was, live AND i was like fumbling with all the keyboard and stuff to get things all screwed. Up we're playing tag with. Fella she was. Okay she figured she was okay because she's probably watching at this, point and, She. Hey SO i just, said, LITERALLY i just, said answer the, Phone, bac and then you. ANSWERED i KNOW i said it right before you, answered because you you are you are live on my. Show, Hey, rebel can you hear her?

26:23 Slightly it's hard to hear. Her it would be better IF i call. Her all, Right, Listen i'm gonna have my engineer call you. Back answer the. Phone, don't, DON'T i. CAN'T i have to. GO i NEED i, know But i'm Gonna i'm gonna promote your. Ship so. Call he'll call. You. Answer, Answer, SEAN i have like five, minutes that's. ALL i didn't even have five. Minutes i'm doing you a. Favor shut up and hang up and he'll call. You, Okay. And that's a nice way of handling. Things, listen you.

27:04 Guys get ship. Done, MAN i have time to sit there and try to like talk her into. It. Now she hangs up onailable. Call. Again fuck that? Bitch CAN i say? That? Oh it just did it is what it. Is. Boy the guy on the air there next to us seems to Be i'm pretty happy.

27:55 The. Phone oh my, Goodness, sue can anybody recognize the guy that we're paused? On? Yeah, Now i'm, oh she, said it's not? Ringing all? Right hold on. The things we? Do the things we? Do, hey call back to the NUMBER i gave. Mm, hmmm.

28:36 Phones these, days, BOY i am so glad that we didn't have devices like. That oh once upon a. Time SO i never caught on. We got? Her, Hello, hey can you hear? Me, YEAH i can hear. You, okay you're here With you're here With. Rebel you Remember? Rebel Hey, Bella Hey? Rebel how are? You i'm doing? Well thank, you thank you for participating in. This and THEN i have one who is the engineer and in the studio In. Wellington you never met, him But i'm sure he's probably part of your family somewhere looking.

29:22 Up you're. FUNNY i was gonna, say, honestly my brother's name is. One i'm, like, what that's. Why i'm saying. That and that's funny BECAUSE i don't have any. BROTHERS i only have. Sisters how? Funny Ben bella if it was your. Brother, yeah SO i gotta tell you, Something. Bella but THEN i have to tell all the listeners like how great you are at Hair. OH i love, You, dean thank. YOU i appreciate. That but FIRST i have to tell you something that's. Funny, okay. Okay So i'm going on Ship Rock day a couple of, days which is that festival. CRUISE i THINK i told you about, it.

30:09 Right oh, yeah, yeah, yeah you did tell me about. That and remember you're live on the, air so anything you don't want the whole world to, hear don't say. It, okay. There we. Go but, anyway SO i was just literally this just proves THAT ai is taking over everything and listening to, everything because just last NIGHT i was going through the whole Ship rock site to see all the THINGS i need to do and EVERYTHING i needed to. Know and basically there's one night that they have a thing and it's the dating game like the seventies days on the C, yes so, okay, totally like so. Funny so everybody that doesn't, know that's the DAY i met you was when we did the same ship on this. Show how many years ago is? That how many years ago is?

31:17 THAT i MEAN i think THAT i was like nineteen or twenty. Six now, yeah you're yeah year. Old now you're nineteen. Then so, yeah so that's seventeen years. Ago can you. BELIEVE i cannot. BELIEVE i Cannot. NO i mean that's almost longer than you were alive at the. Time oh my. God just to put things in, pursuit. What when it hits twenty, years we should like somehow find.

31:57 It are you able to pull? That, like oh, YEAH i can pull it in two. SECONDS i can pull it in two. SECONDS i have. It, Okay i'll find it And i'll send you a link you can listen to. It so, okay maybe we should, have like like everything else okay IN tv and movies and, everything a. Reboot, yeah it's a, reboot like because nobody has creative ideas a more, so we're just gonna reboot our old dating. Show. Okay, so. But we have to stick to the same rules That parson places back. Then, okay so you have to do it like.

32:38 Authentic that's something they AND i will bet you a million percent if you change the person's voice and you, blindfolded because you'd have to change the voice this time. TOO i would just LIKE i said back, THEN i would pick the same person BECAUSE i did say. IT i did say that to REMEMBER i said that To, beadonna like, like, Okay i'll that was my and that was what she was trying to. Prove badonna one at that point in, time she came up with this idea of this dating show and was all done by radio because we weren't doing video then and we did live in the studio with with the live contestants in there and with my old co Host ruthie and SO I godonna said straight, out she, GOES i want to do this SO i can prove that if you can't see, them you'll stop picking young hot psycho. Chicks word For that's what she. Said AND i said to, Her i'm, like, YEAH i wouldn't bet your life on that, one. Okay just like just like my youngest, daughters they brought this sign it's up in my bedroom right now that says my next wife won't be crazy. Now the fact that they're talking about their own mother should tell you. Something

34:11 but my, response my response to them was, This, YEAH i wouldn't bet on. THAT i wouldn't bet all, that you, know crazy one way or another. Right, remember we used TO i used to do all the calls all the, time AND i used to call you. TOO i used to do the, calls the prank calls to FEMALES i knew would ask, them are you a? Psycho? Bitch i've yet to have one say. NO i, mean you really can't. Argue it's, like, wow a little bit at, least. Right would be the. ANSWER a little. Bit. Absolutely SO i got to, say in all these, Years i've known you Like i've known you since you started doing. Hair, okay, yeah and you kind of sucked, then you, KNOW i was, okay you were just doing all my kids in my living.

35:06 Room and so, Yeah, orange it was it was a. Journey it was a journey. Totally and then so but, anyway you are badass now AND i don't. CARE i don't even care WHAT i. Say you're a really good hairstylist and all the stuff that you. Do so why don't you tell everybody everything you do and how they can contact? You and everybody knows THAT i would never trust somebody with the pipe man's hair UNLESS i knew they were. Good and proof of that was IS i didn't let you touch my hair back.

35:50 Then so, ah, yeah, yeah that's. True you're. RIGHT i didn't even think about, that, honestly. You, Know. I'm yeah, exactly. So uh you. Know, Yeah i've been in the industry for sixteen years, now AND i specialize in a couple of. THINGS i do, bolliage which is like a more lived in color like surfer beachy girl. HAIR i do up. WEDDING i always heard that word AND i thought it was like some porn. Thing why, yeah stop, it San, okay oh, no you did. THAT i did my, head all, right go. Ahead, so, YEAH i do.

36:41 BOLLIAGE i do hair and makeup for. WEDDINGS i do those, fun, vivid funky. COLORS i do. Redheads. YEAH i, Mean i'm starting to get into extensions. Now i'm really excited about. That but if you are In Palm Beach county see. Me you can find me On. Instagram It's Bella Bolliage Hair. Studio, no it's Not Born, promise but, yeah thank you so. MUCH i love. You, OH i love you. Too but WHAT i really love is when you do my. HAIR i, mean, yeah, tomorrow, yeah, tomorrow.

37:24 Tomorrow that's why you're, here like because You, okay so we got to straighten the shit out you were texting. Me i'm like trying to do my live show and you're texting. Me So i'm just, like all, right just call up and then you could just tell me live on the. Air so, yeah BUT i do want to, say, like as far as the colors, go one of the THINGS i really love about What bella. Does and you guys all know THAT i have these funky colors and they can be pretty. Messy, Well i'm very particular like AND i love that she makes sure that everything is so covered THAT i don't get my skin, stained because, like there's so many out there that it's like they don't even take that extra bit of time that takes to make it look better and be easier because there's nothing.

38:17 WORK i don't want to look, like you, know From Willy wonka and have a whole blue. FACE i just want my hair, Blue, okay right, exactly. Sos fun nothing wrong with smurf. Looking So bella tell them again how they can hit you up on socials or if there's a web or any other way you want them to contact. You, Yeah So, instagram It's Bella, Bollage it's. Together, yeah that's. It, yeah B E. L L a B a L a Y a G. E, SEE i thought it was. Belliage that's WHY i thought it was. Porn that's my. Mistake, wow.

39:07 You know WHAT i don't want to. Know, no you really. Don't, yeah and you can also look it up On. Google i'm On. Google what Else? Facebook if you just put in bellow, bollage it'll all come. Up that's. It i'd love to have you take a, Seat. Callie i'm on the phone right. Now i'm on the. Radio, yes. WOWED i. Know all, right, Guys, WELL i have to, go but it was everybody and get off shouting me. Out, yeah my. Pleasure And i'll get the hell off my show BECAUSE i got more important guests to come.

39:51 On you're, welcome, okay bye, whatever see you, Guys bye. Bye, Okay so we try to go back to this. Now, hey, wait so we get at. It oh that's a. Question hey, one do you have to engineer a show at? Two? No, Okay so we could essentially still keep playing this interview and it's not going to ruin, anything, true not for, Me, no, okay good won't ruin for me, Either, rebel you have any other things to say before we go back to the interview and the documentary and all that good. Stuff, WELL i want to tell.

40:32 You good luck with your hair due tomorrow and have fun on the, cruise And i'm looking forward to check out this. Interview, Well i'm going to give some. HINTS i don't really know one hundred percent What i'm going to do with my hair. YET i did DECIDE i will not do it blue Because i'm going out to. See that would be kind of stupid because a MINUTE i get into, water that blue will be. Gone, yeah you should do orange so you'd easy to. See, YEAH i was thinking about, that just like. Red that's what we were discussing right BEFORE i got on the, air was something and she said the word. Orange i'm, LIKE I am not gonna be. Orange, Man, Okay I'm.

41:15 Pipeman i'm not. Orange just keep in mind if you go orange or, red if you go INTO. I wouldn't go red. Either i'm going to go into something where my hair is not going to be nothing after two. Seconds so there's one of my. Hints there's one of my. Hints Whatever i'm doing in my, hair it might be something that makes sure that my it doesn't lose any color in the. Water that's one hint. Or blending the water. Right the other hint is that there is an eighties theme On Ship, rocked And i'm just gonna say we're going with. That it might have to do. It it might have to do it. Porn i'm Just i'm just gonna leave it right. There it might have to do with. Porn, Okay and if you can put all those hints, together let me know what you think it is and send it A dm to my, socials anybody that's, watching anybody it's, listening and you'll be earned to win tickets to Either rock The, Country rock The, South welcome To, Rockville Sonic, temple And bourbon and, beyond and we have more. Coming

42:48 so rebel get that off my. Show one? Can oh she? Really you KNOW i kicked her? Out oh, YEAH i heard it. Too it was so, loud it was. Brutal it was like it really was a kick. Man it sounded like somebody kicked the screen and she was, gone, Okay so do you want me to roll it or you roll? It? ONE i can roll. It, Okay i'll roll it BECAUSE i THINK i AM i. DO i have to roll it Because i'm the one that paused. It is that what it. Is, NO i can do it on my end as. Well, okay so here's what we're gonna. Do, Okay, Rebel, yes you're going to do a countdown like it's a game, show and both one AND i are going to hit the buzzer and let's see who does it. First, okay, Ready, yes here comes to a documentary interview.

43:49 Three two people, go, oh you're a. ROADIE i, go, yes but it's not quite what you think of. This you, know they don't get the, glory but these shows whatn't happen without these. Guys this is the Pipe man here on The adventures Pipe man w Four Cy. Radio And i'm very excited about the next guest for many. Reasons but one of the biggest reasons IS i got this email about the documentary AND i was, like, now that's an INTERVIEW i want to do because that's got to have some really cool. Stories because if you're going to get the best, stories it's gonna be from the. Roadies so let's welcome to. SHOW.

44:36 Tj hoffman and let's talk about your documentary or my, documentary but it's, yours so it's not. Mine how you doing, Today Piper, hey how's it going? Awesome? Thanks, so first of, all tell me what how the first time you ever? Roadied how did that? Happened? Oh? Geez you, know it was kind of more or less some friends of mine were working for a local band In jersey and there was a, CLUB i was a couple of clubs at the. Time but they had a lot of. Gear they had like Double marshall, stacks big refrigerator, cases and they needed help getting the gear up the.

45:21 Steps so more or less was, teach can you come help us lug these things up the, steps muscle them up and you get to drink for, free and then after the show just help them help us carry it. Down and it was a pretty decent. Club it was. Eighties it was hair. Bands it was a lot of girls and free. Beer AND i was in So i'm A jersey. Boy which club was? It so it was a club Called sneakers back in the, DAY i, REMEMBER i remember, That North. Jersey and then that led to Like Studio, One Cricket, Club Birch Hill club In. Ay you, know it was the whole you, Know east Coast Central jersey circuit at the.

46:05 Time so here's a. Trip, Okay SO i grew. UP i was Born New, york grew up In jersey till nineteen eighty WHEN i was about to enter high school and my dad comes to me and, goes pack your. Bags we're moving To california in three, days and so we. Did and. Then, funny after high, SCHOOL i went back To jersey to go To rutgers and BECAUSE i Missed, jersey and then a manager of this place On route nine Called harrows and so, Yes i'm very familiar with the Whole Old bridge scene there. Too but it's interesting because for, me what happened to me was the first SHOW i ever went to in a club in my life was at The roxy on The Sunset. Stretch had to be eighty maybe eighty, one and it Was Motley Crue, wow before they had an. Album there wasn't even an album. Yet.

47:13 Cool AND i remember going into this club to watch this show And i'm, like oh my, God i'm never going to a real concert ever. Again this is the best shit. Ever. Yeah. Yeah and then you walked out of that club and you walked up with them like a whole entourage of the fans that were, there and you went up to The rainbow AND i was, LIKE i don't, know thirteen fourteen And i'm hanging out at The rainbow With Motley crue and With lemmy And Ron. Jeremy, yeah and as you can, imagine the women that were in that in that, night absolutely absolutely.

47:57 So that was stripped for. Me you, know ironic there's a club with the Roxy uh In New, Brunswick that's. True AND i went TO i went to high school In New brunswick and one of my first shows THAT i paid attention to and really got into it Was Billy idol and it was at This Rutger Student center AND i believe that was eighty five or eighty, six and that was my first shock to, wow this is pretty fucking. Cool. Right and then as you, know and maybe a lot of people don't know that are listening or, watching LIKE i ended up after that show like going To Sunset strip all the, time or The troubadour or the Country club In, resida AND i would just like offer to help and be, roadie just just to be there and to go, backstage and like like there's so many things THAT i probably don't remember because you know what they say if you were in The Sunset strip in the eighties and you, remember remember. It you weren't really, there but it was, like you, know it was so. COOL i went To metallica one of their first shows ever in la like probably their first like real show. Ever same With, slayer but The metallica one sits out in my.

49:18 Mind i've told this story, before BUT i think it's very apropos for this Is So i'm sitting out there and the guitarist gets off stage after playing and comes up to, me introduces himself and starts talking to me and hands me his business card and it Said, Metallica Power, Metal Dave Mustain and the next THING i, knew me and all my friends were headbanging To whiplash at their house and partying all night. Long. Awesome that's a great, story you, know, Yes And. I'm sure you have ten million. Stories that's WHY i wanted to do this interview because the roadies definitely have the.

50:01 Stories and then the whole journey of your whole career to this day and then to come out with this, DOCUMENTARY i think it's. Amazing. NOW i appreciate, that you, know started as a more or less an unscripted type of series that we were pitching in THE la scene going back fifteen years or so ago, already AND i, music, television, legal, licensing the whole thing kind of would bang heads, constantly AND i had a shelf that idea for a little, while and in the, MEANTIME i decided for all the footage and all the work and money THAT i put into, IT i just started to build the. Documentary and WHAT i wanted to do was paint a. Picture AND i was kind of want to be That Michael moore type of investigative guy that goes to a venue and come follow me and let's go see what's going, on you, know peek behind the. Curtain and as my interview progressed and the story evolved and my, story a lot of my footage THAT i had from the eighties and nineties were placeholders as we, were you, know building the timeline of the. Film, yeah and my, producer my, Editor Andy, stroll and a couple other guys saw it and said this is the way to, go you, know MORE tj in the. Story AND i didn't want that at. All so it evolved to what is now my, documentary which you, know as you know in the film, business other things take lefts

51:34 and right turns. Constantly, yeah just like the music business. Does and this is the best THAT i could do at the time with WHAT i. Have and that's. It and you, KNOW i gotta, say like one of the THINGS i thought was really cool because it is like, that like unlike the debauchery THAT i experienced WHEN i was a teenager of the roadie backstage. Life, man it's so such a professional industry, Now AND i thank god you weren't there filming, me BECAUSE i don't want any record of anything that went on from at least nineteen eighty to nineteen eighty. Five, yeah, yeah.

52:16 You. KNOW i made this film starting with my friends and family and peers in the. Business they trust me with the. CAMERA i, MEAN i very easily could have made a really smutty, film probably made a lot of, money But i'd never been involved in the music. Business, Again i'd lose a lot of, friends and that's not what this was. About SO i got the trust of my friends and family on the, road and they introduced me to other people and more professional techs and roadies and tour managers and people in the. Business that evolved to getting to the level and the access THAT i, did So without, THAT i don't THINK i could have made this film because nobody really wants to hear just my story about me being a punk kid From jersey carrying you, know cabinets up drinking beer and then getting clean on the, road and then you, know trying to tell my story it's not that. Interesting but the whole encompassing roady PROFESSION i think people are are interested, in.

53:19 Yeah BECAUSE i don't think a lot of people even really know what that. Entails you, KNOW i, think As Eddie trunk put, it they're like the most important people to make the show go. Down, Yeah, Yeah and that's that was part of my goal WHEN i set out to do, this is to really paint a. Picture so when people pay that money one, hundred two hundred and even at festivals now where it could be over thousands of dollars to go see a, show they have a little better understanding. That you, know it's just not the band making millions of dollars production aspect of. It and these guys are true professionals that earn their, pay you, know every single. Show you, know these tours start months and months before the first, concert per se in a in a, venue or at a, theater and you know they're they're leaving their families and wives and everything way earlier than the actual in the first.

54:18 Show so it's it's a professionist not for. Everybody AND i wanted to give them accolades and uh and and humanize the profession as. Well AND i love that because it is a. Profession it's a lot of hard work without a lot of. Accolades and, nowadays, okay like thank god it's professional because what went on way back in the eighties probably wouldn't survive today because there's there's no record labels just throwing like millions of dollars at these bands to go, party you know, nowadays so it's like it. Need it really did change the image of the music and the, industry AND i think that's pretty.

55:02 Cool, yeah that's another reason THAT i wanted to tell my story of getting clean and getting sober on the. Road you know a lot of these guys that have great stories and did battle some demons on the. Road you, know there's still they're still in the, business they're still, working so to come out and say that it might have tainted some of their future, work, Right SO i kept it as. PROFESSIONALS i can with those, people And i'm not afraid to tell my. Story it's it's it's just part of my life. Now AND i hope through this film it would paint a picture of the music industry but also people that might be struggling, about you, know recovering and overdoing, it whether in the music business or.

55:44 NOT i hope that MAYBE i could help them a little bit as. Well that's, Amazing and as we can see in the back my background, here you have got received like not only you, know mentions of, awards but actually won, awards and there's quite a. Few so that's pretty. Amazing how that? Feel, yeah, no that's it was. Great so a lot of those awards and festivals were for the trailer, Also so the very first trailer that we, did it was kind of a mix between the the unscripted series THAT i was producing and the film and the.

56:26 Interviews we just threw all this stuff. Together SO i was trying to get some financial help right in the, beginning, right and it just took off and it was it was well, received and you, know after you get a couple of mentions in film festivals or, screenings you, KNOW i started getting the calls and then it was, OKAY i got to finish this. Film people really want to see what's going. On and it was released about five years. Ago we debuted at The Garden State Film festival In Asbury park and it won For Best Documentary homegrown from A Jersey. Filmmaker and from THERE i just entered it in a couple of more again with the with the idea of trying to get it, noticed because WHAT i really wanted this film to be was the pilot episode for a recurring, SERIES, uh to continue to follow these guys on the, road because it's it's it's really, interesting and it's it's pretty easy to do from a music guy making a series or A tv, show you, know in The hollywood, scene as opposed to A hollywood guy jumping into the music. Scene it's always it's always a difficult thing to take direction.

57:40 From, hey, Listen it's no different than like WHEN i do all these festivals as AND i hear other press people there THAT i can totally tell or not metal heads when they're interviewing metal, bands And i'm, like, man IF i were in a pan right, now it was slit my. Throat, YEAH i. Know nothing about the. Band they're just. There they wanted they got the free pass for a weekend and they're just kind of hanging. Out, Yeah i'm with you On that's that's, frustrating. Right you, know especially in this genre because like it's a. Passion we're a. Family LIKE i love when people say to, Me, Okay i'm fifty eight years, old and when people say to ME i used to like Middle i'm, like then you didn't like, Metal, like metal is not something you used to. Like it's a thing that's in you that never leaves, you no matter where you had in. Life that's.

58:33 True that's. True and the same thing with punk rockers and kids and all that. Stuff it's it's in your, blood no. Doubt and that's another thing. Too WHAT i am really happy about today IS i was a long hair in the eighties that wanted to go to punk shows and couldn't because you'd get your ass beat just you. Know and it's funny because like like a couple of years ago At, HELLFEST i was Interviewing discharge and, LIKE i loved you guys my whole, life and this is the first TIME i got to be in one of your, pits you, know you, know because you just couldn't do that.

59:17 Then SO i love how it's come like. This the WAY i always saw it was stupid back, then because the metal heads and the, punks at least IN la we're always getting you, know picked on and bullied and beat up at. School but yet we were against each. Other we should have banded. Together and it's the same kind of similar attitude type of. Music SO i love that here in twenty twenty, five we're all one, big happy. Family whether you're hardcore punk metal doesn't. Matter, Yeah AND i think you see, that and you, know at a lot of the FESTIVALS i remember in you, know nineteen ninety nine WERE i was With Agnostic front and we're playing the smaller, stages but you, Know eminem was on that that Year Black Eyed. Peas the eclectic mix of, music you, know to just to cross pollinate different genres was, amazing AND i you, KNOW i think, that you, know Mister lamy did an amazing job in those early years of really getting the youth and the kids involved in you, know the skateboards and all that stuff with you, know and crossing over to different types of music for these. Kids it was brilliant and, yeah you, said fast forward twenty twenty. Five the music really keeps a lot of us, together and people really drop a lot of the bullshit when it when it comes to seeing a, band, right it brings us all, together no.

1:00:41 Doubt it's so. Funny like just a few days, ago Bonn aerou promoters sent, me you, know stuff for covering it and the, lineup And i'm looking at the lineup AND i don't Do bonnaroo because not my. LIKE i won't interview bands THAT i don't. Like, okay let's just. Dumb my job is to promote. It IF i don't like, IT i can't promote. It SO i looked ON i looked at the List. Megadath i'm Like megadath At. Bonerou that says it all right, there. You, know, great that's. GREAT i mean you would never imagine, then you, know all The Dandy wimmer festivals here is masterfully like combining genres and putting bands. Together and then you go to these festivals and there's like one hundred thousand people and nobody's an. Outsider we're all one big family and it doesn't matter what we, like absolutely and it goes that's the same thing with the road crews.

1:01:39 TOO a lot of these guys will bounce around from from you, know from jazz to SOME r AND b and work for many different. Bands and that another thing too that just keeps us all together is one. Family you, know there's never a broken bond when it comes to. Music so tell everybody how they can reach out to the website socials where they can watch the documentary all that good. Stuff it's pretty much on everywhere you can watch. It, yeah it pretty much is these days of you, know roadifilm dot com is the website that'll link you to all the avenues of where you can watch. It facebook And instagram Is roadyfilm.

1:02:20 And. Amazon the easiest way to see it right now is On amazon. Freebie. Nice what would you say is your favorite piece of feedback that you got from somebody on this? Documentary, wow that's a that's an interesting question BECAUSE i do get a lot of. Feedback very rarely DO i get something. NEGATIVE i think. That's shocking in twenty twenty, five to tell you the, truth that says a lot about how great it. Is, YEAH i wanted to BE i wanted TO i wanted to be honest with myself and with the. Profession and, again you KNOW i said in the, MOVIE i did it for a long, time BUT i did it part.

1:03:06 Time you, know there's guys that spent their whole life out. There those are the guys that really deserve. It but those guys THAT i think maybe could have made a better movie and maybe told some things THAT i, missed can't do WHAT i did because they're, outworking. Right SO i got the thank yous from a lot of peers in the, industry other roadies and texts that, said thank you for giving us a light BECAUSE i can't do. IT i have to, work. Right their tours are ten to eleven months a. Year they go home and they want to just focus on the family when they're, home so they don't have the. Time SO i think the, best you, know reward THAT i got for making this film was just that of other you, know real professional roadies and texts thanking me for WHAT i was, doing which you, KNOW i still get goosebumps to this day with some of these guys who were my idols as a, roadie you, know thanking. Me so that was pretty.

1:04:01 Cool, SEE i love. IT i was getting goosebumpster here and you say, It SO i love. That you, know what would you, say is there any, story good or, bad crazy or not that sticks out in your mind most of your whole? Life in this music, area there's there's so. Many it's so blessed and fortunate to have experienced What i've. Experienced SO i started in like the big. HAIR i worked for a, band you know it. Was they were Called American. Angel they started about the same time Skid row, did and they were neck and neck for a long. Time and then you know the story Skid Row doc McGee and they blew up In American angels stayed In New jersey and then that that kind of. Imploded SO i saw the metal the the eighties big hair. Bands THEN i went to work FOR md And Billy milano right right over to that kind of metal. Core you don't have to say anything. More Billy milano right he was managing The Elastic. Front so THEN i got to go work in the hardcore. Scene SO i was in CBGB's and The wetlands and all The Lower East side, clubs and then right to the festivals In, europe AND i got PROBABLY i got a whole movie of stigma STORIES i could tell you stories About Vinie. Stigma and THEN i got working for Skid row in ninety. Nine they were another called another band at the, time and Then Snake rachel And scottie and got a drummer And Johnny sollinger and we were the opening slot on The

1:05:33 Kiss tour in two, thousand SO i went right To Arena. Rock so that chapter has a bunch of, stories you, know and a lot of. THAT i was drinking and drugging during a lot of those. YEARS i did a lot of it's, sober so it was back and. Forth so every, tour every, venue every different parts of the world That i've been to has a great. Story. Yeah well, Again i'm just so blessed and fortunate that i got to travel the, world you. KNOW i. DID i GUESS i got paid BECAUSE i did bring some money, home but it was it was. NOTHING i didn't even care about the money as much AS i wanted to just be out there and experience life on the road with a.

1:06:18 Band, yeah and it. Is it's not cut out for, everybody but for the people it is cut out for it's freaking. Amazing like my youngest, Daughter i'll bring her sometimes to festivals and after the first, day halfway through the first, day she'll be, Like, DAD i don't know how you do this every Weekend i'm. Done, Yeah And i'm, LIKE i don't know. HOW i don't you. Know it's like right, Now i'm about to go out and do coverage on Ship rocked in a few. Days But i've been in the off season And i'm kind of Like jones AND i don't Think i've left my house like most of the, month because, yeah you, know you know what that feels.

1:07:01 Like, Absolutely And i'll see on ship Rock i'm part of the team out, there SO i do it every. Year it's it's it's it keeps, me you. Know engaged in the. Scene and a lot of my, friends uh that not only play on the, boat but are on the same crew year after. Year and towards the end of my touring, career you, KNOW i was working For ignite out Of Orange county and we were planning tours around our vacation. Time so it, was you, know a, festival a couple of, clubs and Then brett would, say we got two days off In vienna and or you, know a day off In paris and we're going to The louver and he worked it in where it was it was. Fun and when you're touring with a band who is your, friends it's it makes it so much, easier uh to go away for, two three four weeks at a. Time SO i WAS i was really blessed to be a part of that as, well with those, guys and, uh there's there's just nothing like in the.

1:08:01 World, YEAH i, mean and it is important at your friends because like you spend in twenty four to seven on the, road you better be really. CLOSE i said in the. Movie you. Can't you can't be a, punisher you, know especially on a tour, bus you, know Across america or you, know you, wherever even In. Europe it's it's tight close quarters and your your home is a bus and you have to get along with people and. Adapt and nobody wants to be that guy on the. Road And i've spent a lot of, time you, know interviewing different other texts and, roadies AND i would sacrifice musical skill or roady capabilities for somebody THAT i could really live with and get along with that didn't you, know drive everybody, crazy and not only me but the.

1:08:57 Band if you have a. Guy who's doesn't get along with people and is miserable or got problems at home or, whatever is always. Complaining nobody wants that on the, team and you know that they gotta. Go. YEAH i wouldn't want, that not even for five. Minutes, yeah. Exactly SO i have a trivia question for. You oh, BOY i do this a, lot and it is kind of, fun and So i'm going to use a little jersey in it and a little music in. It SO i went to this show at The we used to call it the Pig, pen but Art stocks. Playpen, okay that's.

1:09:38 RIGHT i lived right by the like right by, there and at the TIME i didn't know WHAT i know. Now but there was this band playing there and their name Was Soft White. Underbelly. Wow do you know who that band? IS i do. Not you, know there was a lot of touring bands in that. Time you're, Like Edgar casey was a great cover. Band xenon came out of. That So i'm think you're leading towards that the name of this band was an undercover name for a major.

1:10:19 Act you are, Right and so it was their original name when they first, started and then they changed it to the name everybody knows them by AND i didn't even. Know AND i walked in there AND i heard this. Song i'm, like oh my, god it Was Blue Oyster. Colt oh. Wow, SEE i never would have guessed, that. Right and then down here In South, florida at this girl's dating and there's this place Down Fort. Laurdale it's Called, cheers and they have what's called scaraoke, there which is like punk metal, karaoke but they have live bands. There and she's outside the club one night and she calls me up and she's, like, man there's This maiden cover.

1:11:06 Band they sound exactly like. Them and then she walked in and she calls me. Back she's, like it's fucking. Them oh. Wow Because nico has a restaurant here In, boca and so before they would go or Iron man would go out on, tour they would go play a show like. That and there's some pseudonym as you, know and it's like this place was smaller than The troubadour or CBGB's Or lamour's or any of those, places and they were playing, there but you wouldn't. Know you would just of course walk in and be, like oh my, god that's. Great for the.

1:11:48 Band that's great for. Press it's a nightmare for the. Roadie i'll tell you. That i'm sure it. Is i'm sure it. Is AND i tend to think with the bands maybe they kind of like it because it's her only like connection back to old times playing clubs and having that intimate thing going. On, yeah you, Know. Motley just did those couple of days at The, whiskey you, know bringing it, back AND I i went through all the, Phases SO i saw the club. Scene you, Know i've been IN vfw halls and played for the seventy five, kids and then you Know lowlands In europe And rock Am ring and all These, dynamo the big giant festivals where it's one hundred thousand. Plus, yeah there's nothing like the intimate shows where you're really part of the crowd and you, know you're getting beers thrown at, You you're that close to smell their breath type of, thing you.

1:12:42 Know, yeah totally like. That so is there anything else you want to let the viewers and listeners know before you go that we haven't covered. Already oh GEEZ i you, KNOW i think that if you're curious about the profession or you're not sure or you're a little bit curious about, me. Go To. Amazon it's. Free and after seven, minutes if you don't want to hear my, mouth you can always just change the. Channel let me tell you, something they're not going to change it after seven. Minutes it's an amazing documentary AND i love the inside view that you give that nobody has really given, before and giving all the important people that a voice that really don't usually have a. Voice they're the behind the scenes people that make it all.

1:13:32 Happen without, them there are no. Shows that's. True that's, true AND i think there's a lot of these bands will be the first to admit that and give kudos to their. Crew they work, hard, absolutely and. That's WHY i thank somebody like you because you've made it possible and people like you have made it possible for all of us to enjoy live. Music and to, me live music's the best therapy there, is and so thank god we have everybody that's involved in a live, show so from wherever part they, are and thank you for making this documentary BECAUSE i gotta tell, you it's amazing AND i think everybody will more appreciate all that goes into a live show and maybe stop bitching about.

1:14:22 It, Yeah, LIZ i appreciate your time and for having me and letting me letting me talk my shit here a little. Bit much, Appreciated. Piper, always And i'll see you on Ship. Rocked, yes see you in a couple next. Week. Wow, yeah it's not not even a week like we're leaving this coming. Weekend, yeah that's, right goes fast there it. Is thank you so, much my. Friend you got. It. Cheers thank you for listening to The adventures of Pipe. Man i'm w FOR Cui. Radio, yes