March 19, 2025

Statue of Liberty & Super Fly From Keith Roth of The Dictators, Sirius XM

It’s WTF Wednesday on Season 19, Episode 27 of The Adventures of Pipeman. Tune in at 1PM ET on 03/19/25 for the live show on W4CY Radio at www.w4cy.com. Subscribe to The Adventures of Pipeman at...

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Season 19

It’s WTF Wednesday on Season 19, Episode 27 of The Adventures of Pipeman.

Tune in at 1PM ET on 03/19/25 for the live show on W4CY Radio at www.w4cy.com.

Subscribe to The Adventures of Pipeman at https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-...

Are we trading the Statue of Liberty for French Croissants without Tariffs? I say we have a music festival at the Statue of Liberty with people from all over the world so the humans on this planet can unite from all walks of life in the name of music, love, and liberty. Will it be on the Pipeman Radio Tour? IDK, but Louder Than Life and Aftershock will be, and we are giving away weekend wristbands for both. Listen or Watch and Enter to WIN!

Speaking of uniting for music, Pipeman has a great discussion with an amazing musician, song writer, radio personality, and all-around cool Jersey dude Keith Roth. Keith Roth is the Lead singer and guitarist with The Dictators and Frankenstein 3000. He is a a veteran musician and song writer for more than 35 years, performed on over 50 albums, played with the David Johansen Group, Earl Slick, Sylvain Sylvain, Cheetah Chrome, Punky Meadows many other Rock Icons. You might know Keith as Sirius XM host of Ozzy’s Boneyard ,Hair Nation producing & David Johansen’s Mansion of Fun for over 20 years. You might also know Roth produced and hosted the critically acclaimed Electric Ballroom Radio Show for 25 years. He also starred in the award-winning film Let me Down Hard in 2016. Winner of Asbury Park Film Festival and Garden State Film Festival.

Well, Keith Roth is set to release his first ever solo album The Law Of Diminished Returns on March 21st through Deko Entertainment. The first single from the album “I Don’t Feel Like Thinking Today!” was released on December 6th and immediately caught the attention of rock fans and critics alike. Now he is breaking out the bell bottoms and going full on retro with a cover of the Curtis Mayfield song “Superfly”.

The Law Of Diminished Returns contains and elegant mix of 11 songs covering many feels and grooves and features guest appearances by former Blue Oyster Cult drummer Albert Bouchard, Monster Magnet drummer Bob Pantella, Angel guitarist Punky Meadows, and Dictators/Manowar guitarist Ross the Boss. It is available on CD and Limited-Edition Blue Vinyl.

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Yo.

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It's what the fuck Wednesday here on the Adventurancepipe Man

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I gotta tell you something. We're broadcasting live today from

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the Statue of Liberty in France, so let's bring on

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our pipe nuts and let's find out what they think

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about that. Well, are you still in Louisia or are

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you with me in France at the Statue of Liberty

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swamp Nut, I am everywhere you want me to be.

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Pipe man have studio nuts in Wellington, so he doesn't

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he doesn't know. But you know, we're broadcasting live in

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France from the Statue of Liberty. Because if any of

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you read the headlines and not the news and just

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spread stuff like you do, you probably think right now,

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just let but it may come true later down the road.

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Because remember towenty sixteen, I did a parody satire thing

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that you know that that Trump was going to invade Canada.

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And here we are so careful the stuff that screwed

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up crap that I say that possibly be true, just

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might end up true. So if you heard the news

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France wants back to Statue of Liberty, that is true.

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The reason they're saying is because our country does not

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represent what the statue why they gave us the Statue

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of Liberty anymore? And of course, well it is Indian giving.

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But you know what, it's funny because we're like, no,

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we're not, we're not giving it back. Meanwhile, I think

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I'm pretty sure that I saw today they just towed

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the Statue of Liberty out of the New York Harbor

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and it's right now floating across the ocean on its

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way back to France. Mm.

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Yeah, that's going to be.

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Well because somebody said, a fearless leader said you want it,

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come and get it, kind of like what happened when

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we tried to deport people to Mexico and they said,

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oh no, you can't do it that way.

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You know, well, you know you can't actually, So when

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somebody gives it, I'm trying to stop things from happening

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here before it gets too bad. So when someone gives

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you a gift, is it on a borrow system or

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Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you

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a question, rebel in Louisiana. If you gave somebody, let's say,

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a knife as a gift and then they became a

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serial killer and was starting to cut people up with

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that knife and kill them, would you take back the knife?

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they probably need it for evidence.

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But you know, well why would they, Well maybe you

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would so they would stop killing people. You mean, you

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don't care if they just keep killing people.

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It is not my responsibility to take it.

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Did I give them? Don't you remember Seinfeld when they

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all got arrested for breaking the Good Samaritan law. Are

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you one of those people that you just you hand

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somebody a knife, they become a serial killer and they

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start killing people and you're like, yeah, I'm going to

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turn a blind eye. Not my business.

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See and you wonder why I give you crap for

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having never mind, I'm not even going to go there,

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because you know what, I got bettered things to do.

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Because I did an interview yesterday. It was really cool.

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on Serious XM and Rebel. You've been with me a

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long long time. Has there ever been a time that

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you've known me to actually literally promote a show on

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another station? Ever?

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On my show?

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And that's because he was just a cool dude who

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also had some new music, okay, because he's also the

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lead singer, guitars, songwriter, he's with the Dictators, and he's

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also you know, basically just put out his own solo project. Okay,

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and when's that coming out? Well, did you read the notes? Like,

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do your research? Rebel?

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I wanted you to tell me because you got to interview.

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You got to do the interview. You didn't invite us

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to go see him in person.

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So but if I send you notes for today's show, okay,

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you need to like pay attention. Okay, so if you

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read the notes, you would know. Of course, when you

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know you've been out partying all night and your eyes

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are like that, of course you can't see the notes. Okay.

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But March twenty first, it drops Deco Entertainment. Uh, there's

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a brand new song out as it's a cover, but

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it's really cool, like it brings me back to childhood,

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and we're gonna listen. I can't tell too much because

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we're gonna play the interview, so we'll just talk about

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it in the interview type of thing, you know. But Superfly,

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the minute I saw in a press release come to me,

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you know, because I get the press releases for all

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new music. I didn't even see his name. I just

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saw Superfly. I'm like, I'm in But then I saw

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his name, and I'm a fan because I actually listened

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to his show on serious XCN. So I'm here to

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say that right now, Keith Roth is a frickin' superstar

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in this industry. And we're about to play the interview

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that we did yesterday. So first we're going to talk

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a little bit about some spots on the Pipeman Radio

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tour where we are going to give away tickets, and

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I'll tell you at the end of the show, after

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the interview how you can win tickets to both Aftershock

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and Ladderdan Life. They're two separate contests, two separate festivals

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with the most badass lineups ever, including fucking Slayer. Okay,

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that's at LOWERD in Life, though not After Shock. That

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was last here. All right, you know what one, just

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shut me up and roll the commercials.

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Commercials are interview, Well, the.

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Commercials, then the interview. Like in the notes I sent you,

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I thought you were better than.

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Rebel, Well you said after the video, play the commercials.

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Oh maybe I did play You know what play them

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now and yeah, you're right, we'll play the commercials after

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the interview. You're right, I'm wrong, Roll it strong. This

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is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man

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W four C Y Radio. And I'm really excited about

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our next guest because I hate to mention this considering

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I own a radio station and I'm on my own

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radio station. But I listened to him all the time.

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I serious XM.

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Because he's a he's a bad ass, but he's also

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a badass musician, and like he brought me back to

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my childhood with this new single we have, and so

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we're going to talk about it a little bit.

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So let's welcome to his show.

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Keith Roth. How are you, Fie Man. Good to see you, man,

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go to catch up with you again, I mean absolutely,

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and I thank you.

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How'd you like the single? Man? Oh?

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You know, it's funny because as somebody like in all

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the stages of rock music, I've I've pretty much hit

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and all the way till now and man, superfly, I

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mean that just the minute I saw I didn't even

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see your name in the press release. I just saw

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that and I'm like, now that's in there review I

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have to do.

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I'm glad you did it.

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I'm glad we did that song because, you know, I

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started writing songs which eventually turned into this album, and

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Atomic Bitchwax. We always did a lot of recording out

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of his studios, Freak Shop Studios, which is like being

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on a galactic space spaceship. But you know, I always

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loved the song, and you know, I had a lot

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of different people play on this, and I said, I

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always wanted to cover Superfly. I love Curtis Mayfield, I

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love the film. I love that whole seventies genre. And

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we just started jamming on it, and you know, Bob

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laying down that groove and we kind of tracked it

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really quickly, and then when he started adding all the

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percussion in there, and then he's like, all right, man,

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you should really like go for it with the vocal.

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He's been embedded in me, and you know, so I'm

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really happy the way the single came out. I mean

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a lot of people are like, why are you going

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it fits the theme of the album, and it's you know,

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it's a as you said, you know, the sixties, the seventies,

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the eighties, the nineties. You know, I love all kinds

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of music, and I've always, you know, loved all kinds

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of music. So I think a lot of a lot

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of different influences are all over this record.

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I think that's a cool thing about growing through all

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these decades that really are like, we're rock evolved over

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the years because we got a taste of like just

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about every bit of it, where I think sometimes people

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today may not have that taste. I've actually talked to

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people at festivals that don't even know who led Zeppelin is,

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like stuff like that, or the Beatles, like, you know, crazy.

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It just blows my mind because it's funny. You take

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Ozzy as an example, since you're on Auzzie's Boneyard. Ozzy

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is Ozzy because of the Beatles, no doubt, no doubt.

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If you talk to Ozzy about the Beatles.

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Now he's interested now, right, and he gets excited and

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he gets just like, oh, you know, did you hear

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this record?

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And he gets you know, I mean talking about himself.

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He does it all day, every day.

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But when you mentioned the Beatles and you say something

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really interesting that inspires him, it's a whole different guy

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and everything's making.

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Sense, you know. So yeah, right, exactly.

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It's funny because my neighborhood is kind of like that

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seventy show, you know, So like all the kids in

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my neighborhood, you know, they're like fifteen sixteen, their hairs

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some of them are hair down here, and they're walking

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the streets with boomboxes with their Led Zeppelin pink Floyd shirts.

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And I'm like, right on, man, this is great. They

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got to a generation, you know, and especially with the

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Zeppelin film. But that's crazy. If you're playing music or

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you're going to a festival and you don't know how

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led Zeppelin is, you should be escorted out of there.

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I know, right, it's wild to me. But then there's

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the other side, like your mentioning it's wild. I'll go

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to the festivals. I'll see kids with like misfit shirts

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on or a pink Floyd shirt on, and I'm like,

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and they're not just wearing it to wear it because

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it looks cool. They actually know the music. And see

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that's cool to me too. Is like you go to

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a show now or a festival. Like in the eighties,

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I would go to these shows and we were the

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same age as the bands, and there was nobody older

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than us there, you know, right, and now you see.

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We're still younger with still the youngest people there, right,

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And now you see these.

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Kids that are going to Metallica shows and I'm thinking

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to myself, that's bad ass, because when I was their age,

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there was no way I was going to see a

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band that was in their sixties or fifties.

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That's true.

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And you know we were talking earlier about you know,

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you see a Metallica out in the bay and I

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saw them first time, and you know, I know you're

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a Jersey guy originally, So the first time I saw

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them was playing a roller skating rink at Oldbridge on

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Route nine with Raven and you saw them out in

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the bay and it was like, I mean, it's cool,

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and it was a diy scene that was happening, and

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I have older brothers that got to see the dolls

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at Mercer Art Center, and so I felt like this

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was like a cool little revolution. But my wildest imagination

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that I ever think that Metallica would become the next

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led Zeppelin. And now you see all these kids and

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they go there with their parents and it's like, you know,

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it's all ages and it's cool. You know. Also with vinyl,

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you know, we grew up in that vinyl era, right.

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I love the fact that vinyl has kind of saved

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the record industry. Sure, a lot of it is reissues,

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but the younger kids that I talked to or come

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out to shows, if they don't have it on vinyl.

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They don't own it.

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They have streaming services to see if they're actually going

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to buy the record, which is kind of cool because

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we used to trade cassette tapes, which is really that different.

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You know, I can make you a tape of a

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record I just bought you throw in your car, you

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can listen to on your stereo. It's a little bit

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longer to access it. But now I love the fact

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that vinyl, you know, is resurrected and the beauty of

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when we were kids with vinyl. You'd sit there, you

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read the liner notes, you knew who every producer was,

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who mastered stuff, and so it's good that that kind

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of infected another generation of format that we thought was

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long dead.

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Is really the main thing that's keeping the industry alive,

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you know. Yeah.

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I also have ADHD. So if I went on a

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whole different tangent, I do apologize.

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Oh man, I love that because on my show I

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always go on different tangent. It doesn't matter. Like you

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pick up something, I'm like, oh, I'm going to run

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with that, you know. I think that's the way radio

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should be anyway. You know, like especially in this arena,

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you know, it should be just like let it take

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a life of its own. Hm. Basically there comes down

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and yeah. So my first album ever, here's an interesting story.

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My first album ever I won at the boardwalk in

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Seaside Heights.

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I've heard a lot of people say that, So that's cool.

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What did you win?

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So I saw the album up there, I was like, man,

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those fucking dudes look cool. And it was the Kiss

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original album when it first came out.

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My buddy Sean Sean Mars plays in a band Mars

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each the same exact thing. He won the record at

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Seaside Heights on the Boardwalk and it was the first

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kiss record.

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That's amazing, actually, right, How cool is that? Oh? Yeah?

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And I became a total kiss freak and that after

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night and we were talking about the Beatles first grade.

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This dude did an oral report on the Beatles and

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I was like, oh, and then maybe I became like

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I had put wall to wall posters in my bedroom.

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But I was like kind of like, I don't know,

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schizophrank or something, because one half was totally Kiss and

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the other half was totally the Beatles. And I always

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talk to people about how those two bands. People think

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that they're not related, talking about influences and where people

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I found them to be so similar, like and I

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tell people and they know hi, and think of that,

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you know how Like on every song that John and

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Paul wrote, it was John Paul. On every song that

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Gene and Paul wrote, it was Gene Paul. And whoever

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wrote the songs would sing the songs, you know, and

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stuff like that. There were so many similarities and I

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think that all holds to the evolution to where we

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are today.

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I agree.

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And the other thing about the Beatles and Kiss is

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that you know each guy as you say and sing songs.

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But also everybody knew all four members. As a Kiss fan,

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you knew all four.

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You knew Gene, Paul, Peter and Ace, and you knew

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you know John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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I mean all four characters.

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You know a lot of people we led Zeppelin, Yellow No,

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Robert Planner, Jimmy Page. Some may not know John Paul

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Jones and right, but I mean with those two there

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was a lot of similarities.

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And of course you know the Kiss being huge Beatle freaks.

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I mean, you know exactly there again, you know, and

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so it's kind of cool and speakings. Like years later,

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I had a history class and I only had one

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project that was an oral report I did on Ozzy.

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Wax Sabbath, Right, I know Ozzy.

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It was like it was Ozzy went when Blizzer of

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Oz came out. I had Blizzer of Oz on eight track,

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by the way, and uh, and I there was a

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music teacher that took over the history class. So this

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jat class was like He's like, all you gotta do

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is do a report on anything you want, and that's

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your whole grade for the semester. So I pitt I

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did Ozzy Satanism in his music. That, yeah, I wonder

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if I even have that somewhere.

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A record too.

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I brought in Diary of a Madman with me. I

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brought in I have this shirt that is a Diary

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of Madman shirt that I actually put on the back

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is remember back in the day, we used to put

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our own art on stuff, and I put in memory

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of Ram Roads. I did get to see Randy Roads

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right before he died, so that was iconic.

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I saw Ozzie and Randy. The first time I saw

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them was at the Palladium. You remember the Palladium on

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Fourteenth Street. Yeah, there's two it was. It was a

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five thirty and a nine thirty show. We're young, so

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the plan was, all right, we'll go to the five

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thirty show from Metro Park. We went, you know, Penn Station.

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We're like, we'll walk down to fourteenth Street. Showed me

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over by eight o'clock. You know, our curfew was like ten.

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I mean we were young kids, right, and we saw

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you know, Motorhead opening and you know, reading about them

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and then seeing them visually, I was like, holy shit.

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Let me from Hawkwind. This band is insane.

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And then Ozzie would Randy and We're like, fuck this,

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I don't care if I'm grounded forever. And then back

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in those days, I mean, we had really good seats

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for the five thirty show, but we went out and

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scalped for the nine thirty show, all the way in

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the back of the play and we spent like twenty bucks.

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I mean that was like kind of a standard thing

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back then, right, And we watched and needless to say,

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when I came home, both my parents were sleeping. I

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didn't get in any trouble, and neither to my other friend.

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The other guy that was with us was grounded for

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like a month. As as a matter of fact, I

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don't think I ever saw him again. But it was

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well worth it to see, you know. And so I

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know what it was like to see Ozzie and Randy,

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and we didn't have cameras. We know, freeze, you know,

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it was great.

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It's funny because I have a similar story. It was

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one of those things where they were playing. Ozzie was

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playing New Year's Eve in La I think it was

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at the Forum or something like that, and me and

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my bro I said to my dad again, I'm sleeping

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over so and so's house, and he said he was

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sleeping over my house. And then we went to the

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Ozzie Show and we came back. And we lived in

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Lake Lindero in Agra in California, and there was like

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a hill down to the lake in my backyard, so

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we just waded down at the bottom like for my parents,

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to my dad to kind of wake up and like

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we were going to come back home or something like

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shit like that. We were out in the morning or whatever,

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and my neighbor, this woman comes out. She sees us

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and all the AUSI shit, and she goes, did you guys,

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did you boys go to Ozzie Show last night? And

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we're like yeah. She goes, stay right there, I need

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to introduce you to my husband. And we're like, weirded

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out because my next door neighbor. We're gonna get in

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trouble man, right, And then the husband comes out. Yeah,

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the husband comes out. He invites us up to the house,

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brings us in his studio, which was wall to wall

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cassette tapes. He was fucking Aussie's promoter. Oh really, right

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next door to me. I never knew, And so He's

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like giving a schwag and all this stuff and it

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was like the coolest experience ever. And then he hands

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me this cassette tape. He said, this band is going

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to be an America in like six months. Nobody knows

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about him yet. Here I'm giving you the demo tape

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and uh, they're gonna be huge. And that was that

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was accept fast as a shark.

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Wow. Wow right, and that was a heavy record too. Man.

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I remember being pretty floored when I heard that that

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album and it's I mean, yeah, that was really cool

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and unique at that point.

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It took them a while to catch on.

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And what's funny is you know, you being a Jersey guy,

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Mark from Teach Quick has been singing with them for

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so many years and I just saw them not this

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Monster's rock the last and I for the first time,

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ironically getting to see him when Mark. You would have

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thought I saw him sooner, but I didn't. And to me,

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they were even better than nice, you know. But yeah,

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of course, man, that's pretty cool when you have a

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neighbor that could turn you on the bands months before

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you know the record comes.

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Out, right, And I was like, I don't know, say

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that again.

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No, I'm saying, you know, if you went to the

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Aussie show, you know, you're just like, oh, the neighbor

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gave me stuff. You know our neighbors is you know

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he worked for him?

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Yeah?

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No, Dad, we didn't go to any show. You know,

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hit our neighbor. You got some fool of vouch for you,

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which is always a great thing.

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Totally, totally. So one of the things I wanted to

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ask you too, is what's it like to be the

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musician and the radio jock.

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I've been a musician as far back as I can remember,

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and you know, I never had any aspirations to do radio,

442
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to be honest with you. And a woman, Amy Christie,

443
00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:21.759
who used to run a rock magazine, you know, in

444
00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:25.400
New York and New Jersey. She she came out and

445
00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:27.119
did a story on a band I was playing with

446
00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:30.039
in the nineties, and then she moved and then I

447
00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:32.559
was living in Long Branch, New Jersey at that point,

448
00:23:32.960 --> 00:23:34.720
and she moved down to that neck of the woods

449
00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:36.680
and there was a radio station opening.

450
00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:37.400
Called The Rat.

451
00:23:38.359 --> 00:23:41.200
I remember the Rat still there, still there a lot

452
00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:43.319
of the same crew, And she said, you know, would

453
00:23:43.319 --> 00:23:45.359
you be interested in doing a radio show with me?

454
00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:48.839
I'd been talking to the general manager and my first

455
00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:51.240
reaction was like, no, I don't want to like front

456
00:23:51.240 --> 00:23:54.200
and back sell like hey, Memorial Day Weekend, the Big

457
00:23:54.400 --> 00:23:56.240
Nine with an.

458
00:23:56.079 --> 00:23:59.119
Aalen or you know, or Corn coming up.

459
00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:01.440
You know, No, she's no, no, we could you know,

460
00:24:01.680 --> 00:24:04.799
play whatever we want as long as there's no obscenity

461
00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:07.400
and we can between the people. We know, you know,

462
00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:11.160
we could bring bands down. And so we went into

463
00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:13.160
this meeting. I never expected to get it. You know,

464
00:24:13.279 --> 00:24:15.839
my daughter was just born born. I dropped her on

465
00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:18.200
the table at this big meeting. They want to meet

466
00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:20.200
with us, and for some reason, the Great Dan Finn

467
00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:22.759
said I have a feeling about you guys, and he

468
00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:24.200
took a chance and we did that show.

469
00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:27.960
I ended the show back in July at twenty twenty four,

470
00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:30.319
but that was in like ninety eight.

471
00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:32.799
And you know, throughout the years, we had the Ramones

472
00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:35.559
come down, you know, Joey and those guys and Johnny

473
00:24:35.680 --> 00:24:39.960
you know, Alice Cooper, John Paul Jones, I mean, the Kinks,

474
00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:42.519
because we knew a lot of people and they love

475
00:24:42.599 --> 00:24:44.839
doing the show because it's kind of like this, you know,

476
00:24:44.920 --> 00:24:47.839
I mean, you know, there's we could talk for forty

477
00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:50.400
minutes and then catch up on all the commercials we

478
00:24:50.559 --> 00:24:53.640
had that time, and it resonated. So from doing that,

479
00:24:54.119 --> 00:24:56.079
and then I get a call when I want to

480
00:24:56.119 --> 00:24:59.640
do a punk rock show for serious radio, and I

481
00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:02.279
had never heard of satellite radio. I thought it was

482
00:25:02.319 --> 00:25:06.279
like Wayne's World, Like, honestly, what the fuck is satellite radio?

483
00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:08.279
And they're like, oh, you could do a punk show

484
00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:08.599
and you.

485
00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:11.799
Could do a weekend on first Wave and left the center,

486
00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:14.240
and I have no idea what they're talking about.

487
00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:17.160
But to be honest, the bread was good enough to come.

488
00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:18.960
Into the city and they said it would be one

489
00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:21.240
day a week, you know, five hours whatever. So I

490
00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:23.519
come in for an interview and I walked in and

491
00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:25.960
when I got off the elevator and I walked through

492
00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:28.720
that glass door and growing up on New York legends

493
00:25:28.799 --> 00:25:31.839
like Meg Griffin and Carol Miller and Pat Saint John,

494
00:25:31.880 --> 00:25:34.799
they were all there, and I'm like, I'm going to

495
00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:35.960
educate myself quickly.

496
00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:37.599
So that's how I started.

497
00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:39.839
I did a punk show called The Punk Yard, and

498
00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:44.079
then which led me doing The Boneyard, which became Ozzie's. No,

499
00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:48.119
it was Buzzsaw, which became Ozzy's Boneyard and then Meg Griffin,

500
00:25:48.119 --> 00:25:50.559
who I'm very close with. You know, she connected me

501
00:25:51.079 --> 00:25:53.720
even though I was friendly with David Johansson, but having

502
00:25:53.759 --> 00:25:57.079
the honors of produce and engineer his show and for

503
00:25:57.200 --> 00:25:59.839
over twenty years. So I mean that's how I got

504
00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:02.799
a radio but a musician. And it's funny because people

505
00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:06.119
who only know me as a musician as people that

506
00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:09.279
only know me from radio. So with the solo record,

507
00:26:09.680 --> 00:26:11.720
I guess the hope is to bring them all together,

508
00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:15.680
like we know Keith Roth from so and so, you know,

509
00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:18.519
Frankenstein three thousand of the Joe Hanson group, whatever they

510
00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:20.839
know me for and from oh that's the dude from

511
00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:24.519
Ozzie's Boneyard or whatever. So hopefully it could expand the

512
00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:26.799
audience with just simply being Keith Roth.

513
00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:30.720
But it is a personal record. So but you know

514
00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:33.039
that's why it's just under my name this.

515
00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:35.880
Week, and tell us more about the record. Okay, we

516
00:26:35.960 --> 00:26:38.599
talked a little bit about Superfly, but give us a

517
00:26:38.599 --> 00:26:41.400
little insight on the rest of the record. And you

518
00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:45.480
know what came from inside. Well, you know I also play.

519
00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:48.400
In a band called the Dictators, Yeah, since the seventies,

520
00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:52.119
and so it was really really great time, you know,

521
00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:55.240
as an artist, because they had wanted to put together

522
00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:59.079
a Frankenstein three thousand compilation which just came out called

523
00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:02.119
Lost in Space one. So I was really digging through

524
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:05.000
the vaults and tweaking stuff on that, and the Dictators

525
00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:07.279
were in the thick of making a new record, and

526
00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:10.920
I was really prolific in writing. But all these songs

527
00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:13.960
didn't make sense for the Dictators or Frankenstein. So I

528
00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:15.680
went to my buddy Mike Jaffy, I'm like, I got

529
00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:17.240
a group of songs, what do you think of these?

530
00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:19.400
And he's like, these are really cool, and he has

531
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:21.960
a studio and he's like, let's work them out, and

532
00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:24.799
you know, and then we went into Bob Pantellas and

533
00:27:24.839 --> 00:27:27.359
we started recording stuff. But I just knew that these

534
00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:31.160
songs were more personal, more me and a lot of

535
00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:33.839
different variety. And plus, when it's your name, you could

536
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:36.880
do super fly or you could do you know something

537
00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:39.240
that somebody said the other day sounded like the band Luna,

538
00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:41.519
which I loved, or you know, or just like a

539
00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:44.359
rock song like the opening track don't feel like think

540
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:47.079
it today, but it's a there's a theme in my head.

541
00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:49.039
It's a concept record, you have to kind of jump

542
00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:51.319
in to see what it's all about. And you know,

543
00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:53.119
having a lot of great people help me out on it,

544
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:55.640
like you know, obviously playing with Ross the Boss from

545
00:27:55.640 --> 00:27:58.519
The Dictators and working with Punky Meadows in the past.

546
00:27:58.599 --> 00:28:01.279
Him and Danny are on there, and Albert Buschard lays

547
00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:03.720
down some drums, and Bob from Monster Magnet, who I've

548
00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:05.640
done a lot of work with throughout the years, and

549
00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:09.519
you know, it's one of those records and you don't

550
00:28:09.599 --> 00:28:12.200
cherry Pickett, You just hit play and it's a it's

551
00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:14.559
a musical journey and if I'm happy with it, to

552
00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:17.160
be honest, that's That's the one thing I learned many

553
00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:21.119
years ago is I never really was into following trends.

554
00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:23.880
I mean, if you look at my musical history, none

555
00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:24.920
of it matches up.

556
00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:26.519
To what was going on at that point, you know

557
00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:28.200
what I mean. I love it. You know, in the.

558
00:28:28.279 --> 00:28:32.240
Nineties it was punk rock, you know, and then you know,

559
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:34.640
a band I wasn't called Bad Biscuit. We were very

560
00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:37.279
punk rock and for the time, and then a lot

561
00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:39.039
of it kind of sounded like what Green Day did

562
00:28:39.079 --> 00:28:41.839
a few years later, and and but after you know,

563
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:44.680
I just wanted to. I became really happier when I

564
00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:47.400
just started wanted to do my own thing and and

565
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:49.799
that kind of you know, and stopped listening to a

566
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:50.480
lot of stuff.

567
00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:52.960
You know, I just was into my own thing for

568
00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:54.559
a while, and you know, the bands that I.

569
00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:57.480
Grew up with, as you were saying, like, those are

570
00:28:57.480 --> 00:28:59.680
the really you know, around eighty seven eighty eight is

571
00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:01.599
when I really got out of you know, a lot

572
00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:03.359
of the metal stuff that was going on, and I

573
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:05.799
reverted back to all the stuff that my brothers played

574
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:06.400
around the house.

575
00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:08.400
And I grew up in the Bronx, so I thought

576
00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:09.240
everybody knew.

577
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:11.400
Who the MC five were in the Stooges and David

578
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:14.319
Peel on the Lower east Side, and nobody really knew.

579
00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:16.799
It was fortunate that this little area people knew this

580
00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:19.759
kind of music. And then around eighty eight everything got

581
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:23.440
so homogenized that I just reverted as a complete throwback.

582
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:25.720
And you know, of course along the way you discovered

583
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:28.519
great bands like Red Cross or people that are doing

584
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:31.200
stuff out of the box. But you know, that's and

585
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:33.640
being on you know, Ozzie's Bonyard. I mean, that's the

586
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:35.599
stuff I grew up on. I mean, that was me

587
00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:38.160
and my buddies, you know, keg parties in the woods,

588
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:42.160
Black Sabbath, you know, and you know guns n' roses.

589
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:44.599
I love guns and you know, and of course David Johansson.

590
00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:46.720
You know, we turned out to be one of my

591
00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:50.599
greatest friends ever and his passing still devastates me. But yeah,

592
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:53.960
you know, all that seventies New York glam stuff and

593
00:29:54.039 --> 00:29:56.599
English glam stuff and punk rock. That's really what I

594
00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:58.720
listened to from eighty eight till till now.

595
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:03.960
It's funny you mentioned about your brothers because there's some

596
00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:07.119
bands I've interviewed that I tell them like I did

597
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:10.680
the John Lodge from the Moody Blues recently, and I was, yeah, no,

598
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:15.160
the reason I took this interview is because I used

599
00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:17.960
to steal my brother's album of yours and listen to

600
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:20.599
it all the time, you know. And that is the

601
00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:23.480
cool thing today is like we were saying before, it's

602
00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:26.880
like we have this history of different types of music

603
00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:30.359
throughout our life. It doesn't mean we didn't like all

604
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:33.240
different types. It just means there were so many different

605
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:36.720
trends and things that I think were more well rounded

606
00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:40.119
because of it. In a musical sense. You know, it's

607
00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:42.400
like if you can, I can sit there and I

608
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:44.799
can go listen to Earth Wind and Fire and then

609
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:47.319
go listen to Slayer exactly, I mean.

610
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:49.920
And that's you know, the beauty of going record shopping.

611
00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:51.359
When I was a kid, I remember there was a

612
00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:54.000
record store in call of City, in the Bronx, and

613
00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:55.559
you know, it was a big treat.

614
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:57.720
You know, my mom giving me ten bucks and you know,

615
00:30:57.839 --> 00:30:59.039
be able to go buy two records.

616
00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:03.200
I remember what time buying Diamonds are Forever soundtrack with

617
00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:08.640
the Used Corporation and I think it might've been Aerosmith Rocks,

618
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:10.720
you know, all on the same day or whatever.

619
00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:12.599
I've always been a James Bond collector.

620
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:15.079
But I mean, you know, so, I mean, and nobody

621
00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:18.799
judged anything that was cool, you know, like Miles Davis said,

622
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:21.279
man cool good music is good music, no matter what

623
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:22.160
kind of music it is.

624
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:24.559
And I think for me, like to nineteen.

625
00:31:24.279 --> 00:31:27.319
Eighty one really kind of felt like a lot of

626
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:29.559
great bands, a lot of great stuff that came out after,

627
00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:32.720
but a lot of the originality kind of ended there

628
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:35.200
because everything a year after that, you know, after the

629
00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:37.559
Beatles and the Stones and the Who and you know,

630
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:40.759
the punk rock and you know bands out of Detroit.

631
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:43.480
I mean, sure, some of it's played faster, some of

632
00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:46.039
it's played electronic, some of it, you know, and even

633
00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:48.279
rap music back then, you know, the sugar Hill Gang

634
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:52.480
I was all incorporated from eighty one down, so you.

635
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:54.640
Know, people you know, pushed it a little forward and

636
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:55.799
you know, and did.

637
00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:57.440
Some great stuff with it. But to me, that was

638
00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:00.119
kind of like the last year of originality. I know

639
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:02.000
people will love to argue with me about that, but

640
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:03.079
that's how I feel.

641
00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:07.119
Hey, I see, that's what's cool about Jersey Boy or

642
00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:09.960
Jersey Girl is like you're going to know where you

643
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:15.480
stand regardless, you know, And I'd rather people speak their mind,

644
00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:18.519
like I think, even if you're an artist that they're

645
00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:22.039
speaking about, Like if I were the Harst, I'd I

646
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:24.720
would listen to it and go, well, maybe I should

647
00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:26.039
evaluate some things.

648
00:32:26.119 --> 00:32:26.279
You know.

649
00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:29.519
I think you learn more from your critics than the

650
00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:30.440
people that love you.

651
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:34.799
That's that's true, as long as they're honest, right, you know, Yeah.

652
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:37.200
And they're not being dicks about it and just being honest,

653
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:37.640
that's all.

654
00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:38.279
Yeah.

655
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:42.119
It's so funny you mentioned sugar Hill Gang because I

656
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:45.640
remember being in seventh grade and my my bro playing

657
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:49.160
Rappers Delight when it first came out, and I was like, Wow,

658
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:52.000
that is so cool and who have known we would

659
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:53.960
be where we are today with that kind of music.

660
00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:55.839
Yeah, I mean I got to throw a run DMC

661
00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:59.279
in the mix because they were very revolutionary and they

662
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:00.240
were past eighty one.

663
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:02.759
I mean, of course there's some things you know, Melly.

664
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:05.440
Mel and you know, Grand Master Flash, you know, and

665
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:08.519
then yeah, and the soul music of the sixties, you know,

666
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:11.119
I mean I love it all, you know.

667
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:12.440
I mean if you people.

668
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:14.240
Would be shocked if they were around my house and

669
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:16.119
see what I listened to, you know, And you know,

670
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:20.200
I mean right now, I think it's probably XTC and

671
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:25.279
some kind of seventies blaxploitation soundtrack or Funkadelic or Parliament

672
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:27.960
or you know, or Black Sabbath, you know what I mean.

673
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:30.599
You know, I mean that's the beauty and that's why

674
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:32.680
you know, you do such a great show because you

675
00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:33.839
get all that stuff, you know.

676
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:36.920
Well, you know, I also look at what you're saying,

677
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:39.359
is it's the musicianship. I think there was a lot

678
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:44.200
more musicianship even with metal nowadays, Like some of these bands.

679
00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:49.160
I think to myself, man, metal was never an algebraic equation.

680
00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:52.559
It's like they use an algebraic equation to write the song,

681
00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:56.400
whereas like songs just used to be written from the

682
00:33:56.519 --> 00:34:01.160
heart and like you just it was a story. And

683
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:06.519
then the musicianship was important, you know, not people I'm really.

684
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:09.559
Good back then, and people we looked up to you

685
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:12.239
thrived to be good, you know, like good. You know,

686
00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:14.480
I never thought I was good until like ten years ago.

687
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:16.440
That's why I was like, yeah, I'm actually good now.

688
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:18.519
It took a long time to get there, even though

689
00:34:18.559 --> 00:34:20.679
I was on the path. But I mean, you know,

690
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:22.559
because some of the you know, I mean I'm playing

691
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:25.679
clubs where guys like Zach Wilde and you know, Dave

692
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:30.480
DiPietro and you know guys, these guys incredible talents, and

693
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:32.960
I mean, you know, in Jersey there's so many talented guys,

694
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:35.039
and it's all time to feel like I was on

695
00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:36.119
the level with those guys.

696
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:38.199
But it always kept the striving us.

697
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:40.519
But you know, and then again, you know, my punk

698
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:42.400
rock roots, it's like, you know, I knew how to

699
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:45.199
play the you know, I auditioned for the Ramones. Somebody

700
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:48.239
just interviewed me about this. I was one one of

701
00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:52.199
a few people that got a second audition. There's a

702
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:54.719
Ramones documentary coming out soon that they talked to me

703
00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:57.519
about it. But when I was able, how I learned

704
00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:00.199
how to play is the first Ramones record, if which

705
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:02.880
the balance one way, it's just bass. All you can

706
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:05.119
ear's bass, and and you switch it the other way.

707
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:07.679
And I was just content, you know, being a punk

708
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:10.079
rock kid and loving that. But the older I think,

709
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:12.920
you know, I still to this day and age, I

710
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:15.480
practice more now than I did when I was a kid,

711
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:18.119
and I you know, I it's like running man.

712
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:19.679
You got to run every day to keep you know,

713
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:20.519
your child on them.

714
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:23.679
That's where you're smart because I played drums for nine years.

715
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:26.320
I played guitar, and I sang thrash metal, and I

716
00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:29.320
sucked at all three and there was one common ingredient.

717
00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:33.159
I didn't have that dedication to practice, like I remember

718
00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:37.559
reading about Randy Rhodes back then he practiced like eight

719
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:41.079
hours a day. I'm like, I'm not fucking practicing eight

720
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:41.840
hours a day.

721
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:45.440
You got to practice because it doesn't when it doesn't

722
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:48.119
feel like practicing, you know what I mean, especially you

723
00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:50.679
know I was content being, you know, a songwriter writing

724
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:51.679
punk tunes and.

725
00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:53.880
It was cool. But I'm like, ah, you know, not

726
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:55.679
in the league of these guys. But then you know,

727
00:35:55.800 --> 00:35:58.880
you over time, it just naturally happens. And uh.

728
00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:01.320
I remember playing with Monkey Meadows. You know, they're like

729
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:04.599
a progressive and you know, that was a real challenging gig.

730
00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:07.559
But really, after doing that, and you know you work,

731
00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:10.400
you're as good as who the people you play with.

732
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:14.199
I've noticed, especially drummers, I mean the band. If you

733
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:16.159
have a great drummer, the band is great. If you

734
00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:18.840
have a shitty drummer, the band sucks. I mean, it's

735
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:21.480
as good as the people you play with. So as

736
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:23.920
a musician, you're going to be as good as whoever

737
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:27.280
you know what the band sounds like. And Punky was

738
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:29.639
a great example of that because those guys were all

739
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:32.599
really great players and playing some really great, intricate stuff.

740
00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:35.559
So I don't find a challenger. I find it fun.

741
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:38.719
It's like yeah, you know, yeah see, but you know

742
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:40.039
as h but yeah, I think.

743
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:42.960
Through Covid was probably the most I played guitar in

744
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:45.360
my whole life, you know, I mean being stuck in

745
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:47.639
the house and not because I felt like I needed

746
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:50.519
a practice. I just like I just got into playing.

747
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:53.159
Like you know, I fell in love with playing guitar,

748
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:55.039
which I never did. I used it as a tool

749
00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:57.400
to write songs, but I really got it. And also

750
00:36:57.480 --> 00:36:59.679
being in a band with Ross the Boss from the Dictators.

751
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:02.719
I mean, he's an incredible motherfucking guitar player. He's one

752
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:05.639
of the best out there, so nice, heeps pushing me

753
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:08.400
and it's fun, you know. I mean, you know, am

754
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:10.000
I Ripe old age of twenty seven?

755
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:11.039
You know, I feel.

756
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:16.119
And I do love that you mentioned COVID because I

757
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:18.159
have said for a while now that if you're going

758
00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:21.000
to pick a positive to come out of COVID with

759
00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:24.440
is that bands an artist had a chance to jump

760
00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:28.239
off the hamster wheel and actually go back to being

761
00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:32.360
creative and having the time to really that. I think

762
00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:35.159
some of the best music we're ever going to have

763
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:38.519
might come out of that time because of it.

764
00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:40.639
I agree with you. I agree with you.

765
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:42.960
I mean, the COVID thing was very odd for me

766
00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:48.079
because I definitely suffered some PTSD during it because every

767
00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:50.800
year he played the lou Reed birthday party, you know,

768
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:54.440
Mark Bowery Electric. We did it for a few years

769
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:56.840
in a row. And we played a show on March first,

770
00:37:56.960 --> 00:37:59.599
and the great Hal Wilner was there, you know, lou

771
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:04.760
Read's and SNL and a couple of weeks after the show,

772
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:07.440
and also we had played Michael Ilago's book signing, and

773
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.880
you know, we just started hearing about COVID. And then

774
00:38:11.239 --> 00:38:12.800
I get a call like a week or two after

775
00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:15.400
that gig that hol Wilner had passed away, and I

776
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:16.840
was like, oh, I'm really and he said, you know,

777
00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:19.800
he died of COVID. And you know, to see this

778
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:22.360
guy a few weeks ago, and what a talent. And

779
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:24.400
then all of a sudden, the floodgates opened. You know,

780
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:27.119
a lot of guys in New York City, Alan Merrill,

781
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:31.000
Adam Schlessinger from Fountains of Wayne, a neighbor four doors down,

782
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:33.480
a guy in great shape in his forties, and all

783
00:38:33.559 --> 00:38:36.920
these people were dying, like my friend Tony Dinado, like

784
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:39.960
within forty eight period. Just hearing these so I thought like,

785
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:43.239
all right, fasten your seatbelts man. This is like seventies

786
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:46.440
sci fi and really like sad, like great, you know,

787
00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:48.559
and what they were saying on the news about, oh well,

788
00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:50.880
if you set in your late sixties and you have.

789
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:54.239
I wasn't seeing that. I mean, sure some of them were,

790
00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:56.920
but the majority of them were very That first strain

791
00:38:57.519 --> 00:38:59.719
was so freaking strong, and then I think it went

792
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:01.920
from Seattle to New York and it took down a

793
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:03.639
lot of great people. And I know people today that

794
00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:06.280
are just getting over it that had that first strain.

795
00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:07.000
You know all that.

796
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:10.119
So I got it. I got it in January of

797
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:12.960
twenty twenty from doing a red carpet at the Oscars.

798
00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:15.519
Wow, I mean, did you have a really enough time

799
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:16.079
with it or now?

800
00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:21.800
I I was in La I live in Florida. I

801
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:24.719
was at my bro's house. He was nervous because I'm

802
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:26.239
the type of person if I have one hundred and

803
00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:29.199
four temperature and pneumonia, I'm still going one hundred percent.

804
00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:32.599
I did not leave the room for like three days.

805
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:36.440
I was dying, and then I came out. I was like, oh,

806
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:40.159
I finally feel like I'm a little alive. And then

807
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:42.559
a day later it went back to worse again. You

808
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:46.519
know how that first strain was. And then I went

809
00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:48.400
When I got back to Florida, I was supposed to

810
00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:50.519
go to Costa Rica a week to go surfing, and

811
00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:54.559
I was still feeling like crap and I couldn't breathe,

812
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:58.159
and so I went finally went to a doctor and

813
00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:03.519
on my record it literally he says, unidentified organism. They

814
00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:04.760
didn't even know what the hell it was.

815
00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:08.280
It had no idea. Yeah, no it was.

816
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:11.719
And so then I went to Costa Rica, came back

817
00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:13.360
and three days later we were lockdown.

818
00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:16.320
Yeah, yeah, it was. I was in the city the

819
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:18.280
night that the lockdown kicked in.

820
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:21.119
I mean, ironically, I was on the Lower East Side

821
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:24.639
and playing a lot around that March frame. But you know,

822
00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:27.639
starting to hear about Seattle, and you know, even my daughter,

823
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:30.679
who's a nurse, I mean, and she's a runner. She runs,

824
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:33.480
so she's like you in the sense that you know,

825
00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:36.960
you have to be like completely like paralyzed to not

826
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:39.119
do it. And she was like, you know, Dad, I

827
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:40.159
can't breathe.

828
00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:40.679
And I got this fever.

829
00:40:41.119 --> 00:40:42.840
And this was like in February, and I took her

830
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:45.360
to the doctor, and uh, nobody knew what was wrong

831
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:49.199
with her. And then they said it's your dad. Cool,

832
00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:51.559
and like, hey, he's cool. He's like, uh, you might

833
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:56.119
be maybe you're pregnant, right, And then I left the room,

834
00:40:56.199 --> 00:40:59.440
but she had antibodies, so I'm thinking she may have had,

835
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:02.559
you know, before it was really announced what it was.

836
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:04.920
But it was just devastating because we lost so many

837
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:07.760
great people during Yeah. I mean I've had it myself,

838
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:10.639
you know, maybe a year after. I really didn't have

839
00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:12.559
a hassle with it. And as a matter of fact,

840
00:41:12.599 --> 00:41:15.519
all the dictators we all got it together. And you know,

841
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:17.719
it's like a bad to me every time I get it.

842
00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:20.159
I just got off the Mansa's rock crew, so I'm

843
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:23.480
waiting for it to kick. But it's it's just that

844
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:25.559
headache is the worst part of it, you know.

845
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:28.119
Oh, no doubt. I had it two other times after that.

846
00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:30.960
My grandkids gave it to me and it was pretty

847
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:37.079
easy the two other times, I can say, but I'm

848
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:41.400
so glad that live music is back and better than

849
00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:45.159
ever in some cases. And like, here's the thing, I

850
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:48.840
think people going to festivals and concerts were complaining way

851
00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:52.960
too much before COVID that hopefully it changed your opinion.

852
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:56.440
And just because I don't care now if some kids

853
00:41:56.519 --> 00:41:58.559
up there playing a recorder, I want to be a

854
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:00.760
live show. I want it miss one again.

855
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:06.559
It was so rewarding when when the floodgates opened, and uh,

856
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:09.760
going out and playing again, you know, uh, it was amazing.

857
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:10.000
You know.

858
00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:11.920
I think the first thing I did is, uh, you

859
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:15.800
know Mark Weiss, the photographer, he's a good He did

860
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:18.559
this event at some little theater in Middletown, and uh,

861
00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:20.960
I have a cover band that I play, you know,

862
00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:23.480
in the Red Bank area, and we played and we

863
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:27.079
had people like Bumblefoot and car Mina Piece. Anybody wanted

864
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:29.360
to do anything at that point, and it was just

865
00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:32.480
great to see people again and being outside. And then

866
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:34.840
you know, shortly going out with the Dictators out to

867
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:37.519
Canada and and just getting back into the groove of it,

868
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:39.320
you know, I mean, listen to a lot of that

869
00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:41.599
stuff too. Is you really should throw yourself into it

870
00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:43.960
and you know, let your body do its own business

871
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:45.960
and and get through it. And uh but uh but

872
00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:48.559
but when the when the when the floodgates opened up.

873
00:42:48.800 --> 00:42:50.840
I mean that was great. And I don't even think

874
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:53.239
about that anymore, to be honest, not at.

875
00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:57.239
All at all. I love that we're just living life

876
00:42:57.320 --> 00:43:01.400
again and you know, great music, so much great music

877
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:05.039
is out there because of it, including your new album

878
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:08.760
dropping on March twenty first, couple of days, the Love

879
00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:14.239
Diminished returns through Deco Entertainment. I am so excited about

880
00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:18.760
this because for those people out there that maybe not

881
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:22.960
have not heard you as the musician, or you've never

882
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:26.199
put anything solo out, they need to get this album

883
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:31.239
because it is badass. Tell everybody how they can get it,

884
00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:34.880
how they can you know, the types of packages that

885
00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:39.280
they can get, vinyl, whatever your socials, everything they need

886
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:39.519
to know.

887
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:43.679
I'm kind of anti social media, but I mean, in

888
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:47.480
all serious Deco Entertainment dot com, you could get the vinyl.

889
00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:50.559
I think there's limited edition blue vinyl that really looks amazing.

890
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:53.840
The CDs and streaming come out on Deco Entertainment. You

891
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:54.519
know Amazon.

892
00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:56.440
I just did a talk Shop Live.

893
00:43:56.880 --> 00:43:59.719
I know they got some sign copies of the vinyl

894
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:04.719
and this Talkshop Live dot com, Deco Entertainment dot com, Amazon,

895
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:08.199
you know, streaming and all your favorite platforms, every stream music.

896
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:09.320
So check it out.

897
00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:13.000
Hopefully you like it, and you know, thank you man,

898
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:15.199
thank you for you know, talking about the record. I

899
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:16.440
really appreciate that pipe man.

900
00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:19.320
Oh absolutely in the first single you put on December

901
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:22.159
that that speaks to me. I don't feel like thinking

902
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:25.519
today I think lately I've been feeling that a lot.

903
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:29.440
You know. I wrote that song in three minutes. I

904
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:31.079
really yeah.

905
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:33.519
I mean it was one of those days where you're

906
00:44:33.559 --> 00:44:36.320
in these text groups with friends and they're fighting about

907
00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:38.920
this and that and politics and all this stuff, and

908
00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:41.119
then you're going through the news and this and that

909
00:44:41.320 --> 00:44:43.039
this one's saying, you know, and it was just and

910
00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:45.039
then people, you know, other drama has nothing to do

911
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:47.440
with anything, and I literally just said, man, I just

912
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:50.000
don't fucking feel like thinking today, and I'm like, that's

913
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:53.519
pretty good song title. And then I just ran came

914
00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:55.360
up with the riff and I was like, it just

915
00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:58.039
came out of me, and most of the verses that

916
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:00.639
I scattered away became a lot of the end. But

917
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:04.719
it's a very poppy, fun song, but there's some real

918
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.000
honesty in those lyrics about you know, just what was

919
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:10.960
going through my head for those that timeline at that point.

920
00:45:11.039 --> 00:45:15.280
But yeah, I think there's another song that's only available

921
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:18.280
on the CD and and I don't even think it's

922
00:45:18.280 --> 00:45:20.559
going to be streaming, but that's going to be a release,

923
00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:24.039
you know, because now with the record dropping on Friday,

924
00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:26.199
it's just those two singles. But that one's going to

925
00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:29.440
come out after the fact, and I think we're going

926
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:32.000
to do a video for that. But yeah, you know, listen,

927
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:33.880
at this point, I know every bell and whistle on

928
00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:36.000
the record, so I'm ready to do another one.

929
00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:37.000
You know, I love it.

930
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:37.519
I love it.

931
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:39.440
Any final thoughts you want to give us on the

932
00:45:39.519 --> 00:45:41.199
record or anything you got coming up?

933
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:45.440
Yeah, well, as as Keith Roth, I got some shows

934
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:46.480
coming up with fog Hat.

935
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:49.920
It should be an interesting fund And I know Roger

936
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:52.000
for years, so I think I know we're playing May

937
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:53.760
seventeenth in Patchog, New York.

938
00:45:54.079 --> 00:45:57.119
I know the Dictators were on Little Stevens Cruise, which

939
00:45:57.199 --> 00:45:57.559
is in May.

940
00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:00.599
We're looking way forward to that with a social and

941
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:04.039
the helicopters and x and there's other stuff popping up,

942
00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:07.119
but Dictators dates will probably be announced before we get

943
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:09.920
on the cruise. As getting back to me with the

944
00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:12.760
solo stuff, some shows with fog Hat, but there's a

945
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:15.039
lot of stuff that's kind of culminating right now, so

946
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:17.199
over the next couple of weeks a lot more info.

947
00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:19.440
But you know, you can find me on Facebook Keith

948
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:22.880
row Out, the Dictator's site, you know, keeps in the

949
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:24.800
loop and of course you can listen to me every

950
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:28.679
day Rand and Rave on Ozzie's Boneyard and hair Nation.

951
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:32.119
And finally, the David Johansson tribute that me and Meg

952
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:34.639
Griffin are doing is Aaron on Wednesday. I don't know

953
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:37.960
when this is airing, so but that airs Wednesday eleven

954
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:41.000
pm East on the Spectrum Channel twenty eight and it's

955
00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:43.800
me and Meg talking about personal stories with David and

956
00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:45.760
sharing some of our favorite songs.

957
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:47.840
And I think it'll probably be on demand after that

958
00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:48.280
as well.

959
00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:52.320
Nice, well, we'll make sure the airlifts so that they

960
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:55.960
can catch that and get your album and all that

961
00:46:56.079 --> 00:47:01.320
good stuff. And you are badass. Thank you well, thank

962
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:04.159
you very much, and hey, thanks for being on the

963
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:05.159
Adventures of pipe Man.

964
00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:07.679
I hope to be back again pipe Man. Thank you, bro.

965
00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:10.679
I hope you are too, and I'm sure you will.

966
00:47:11.239 --> 00:47:13.960
And now I gotta go do my live show, so

967
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:17.400
we'll have to we'll talk more and we'll promote the

968
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:21.159
shit out of this on my show, because you're just

969
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:25.440
the all around music person and everybody needs to if

970
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:27.000
they don't know you, they need to get to know

971
00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:29.719
you and at the very least go get the album.

972
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:32.519
Thank you for spreading the spreading the word.

973
00:47:32.599 --> 00:47:34.119
Man, It's been a lot of fun hanging out with

974
00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:37.239
you before the interview and now and you know the

975
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:38.880
pipe man, Rock and Roll, my Brother.

976
00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:45.039
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978
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979
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980
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981
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and so many more. Louder Out, Dan and Live September

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990
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991
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994
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:45.960
Man, I gotta say I'm pumped about those two festivals

995
00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:50.920
because they have each one of them some of my

996
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:55.360
favorite all time ever banns. And so here's what you

997
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:55.760
gotta do.

998
00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:56.159
People.

999
00:48:57.199 --> 00:48:59.679
You can win tickets louder in life. You can win

1000
00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:02.599
pick gets to Aftershock. All you have to do is

1001
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:06.000
DM me pipe Man Radio on any of my socials

1002
00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:11.920
and in your DM tell me for that specific festival

1003
00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:14.320
that you're looking to win tickets, because you can only

1004
00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:19.719
win to one. Tell me what you think are my

1005
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:25.360
five favorite bands to see at that specific festival, and

1006
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:29.159
you'll be whether you're right or wrong, you'll automatically be

1007
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:36.159
entered to win week end passes. Okay, man, these are

1008
00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:39.199
two of my favorite festivals to cover. They have two

1009
00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:42.400
of my favorite lineups this year, and that has Badasses

1010
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:46.239
shit And then okay, make sure tonight to catch that

1011
00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:53.440
show Keith was talking about and so Rebel yes, uh

1012
00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:56.440
oh she's scared. I'm not scared.

1013
00:49:57.800 --> 00:49:58.000
One.

1014
00:49:58.639 --> 00:50:03.079
You heard how she resid it was scared, absolutely right?

1015
00:50:03.400 --> 00:50:06.679
See Okay, so rebelared?

1016
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:07.599
Yes?

1017
00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:12.400
What do you think of that interview? He is so cool?

1018
00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:14.599
You are so lucky to have interviewed him.

1019
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:19.239
I know right here, but here was what was cool too?

1020
00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:22.000
Is how you like? At the end, I said, I

1021
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:24.159
have to go to my live show, and literally we're

1022
00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:27.639
back to the live part of it. It was like

1023
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:30.079
I planned it out and I didn't. It's a show

1024
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:34.480
within a show, I know, right, it's the show within

1025
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:39.320
the show. You know what else? It is? Fucking flare?

1026
00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:42.880
Now it's more like what the fucking flayer?

1027
00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:45.360
There you go? All right?

1028
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:49.760
So any final words from you guys, anything else you

1029
00:50:49.840 --> 00:50:52.599
want to come out about the interview or or the

1030
00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:55.400
statue of Liberty or snails?

1031
00:50:56.119 --> 00:50:59.320
Make sure to buy the album on the twenty first.

1032
00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:05.400
Good job Rebel. You finally read the notes. I listened

1033
00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:11.440
to him. Oh man, so, uh did you know? Not

1034
00:51:11.559 --> 00:51:13.280
that you should do this, but did you know what

1035
00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:19.320
happens if you pour salt on a snail and not

1036
00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:20.360
try this at home?

1037
00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:23.400
Doesn't it come out of its shell? Or doesn't it die?

1038
00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:24.320
Get?

1039
00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:28.039
It melts? It like bubbles up and melts. How weird

1040
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:29.920
is that? That's horrible?

1041
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:31.400
Why would you tell people.

1042
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:34.000
That I'm not telling them so they don't do it?

1043
00:51:35.719 --> 00:51:38.599
Come tell them? So you know, why listen? Because if

1044
00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:40.719
I didn't tell them the answer they'd be like, Oh,

1045
00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:46.000
I'm curious. I'm gonna you know what happens you try

1046
00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:47.280
this at home?

1047
00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:48.000
No matter?

1048
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:52.400
How about how about this one last thing and then

1049
00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:55.760
we'll go rebel. Is this something you do in Louisiana?

1050
00:51:57.079 --> 00:52:03.519
What happens when you combine a magnifying glass with ants?

1051
00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:05.880
They burn up?

1052
00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:07.159
Oh?

1053
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:09.960
Look, she's done that. That's how we look at.

1054
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:12.360
People do it.

1055
00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:15.000
Yeah, you can'd see look at those glasses.

1056
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:20.559
You're where? Okay with thoughts?

1057
00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:23.880
But you know what I loved most of all about

1058
00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:28.440
today's show is that while I was doing that interview,

1059
00:52:29.760 --> 00:52:33.599
I went downstairs and like, this is the first time

1060
00:52:33.679 --> 00:52:37.800
there was waves and forever, and so I during the interview,

1061
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:41.559
I'm back, I'm look out. I'm seeing people surfing down there.

1062
00:52:41.639 --> 00:52:45.480
So I decide, oh I got some time, and I

1063
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:48.400
went down, surfed a few waves, and we're back ready

1064
00:52:48.400 --> 00:52:49.239
to close the show out.

1065
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:52.320
Oh you are so lucky, look at you.

1066
00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:54.920
Yeah, well it's.

1067
00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:56.400
Time to go rock and roll people.

1068
00:52:56.559 --> 00:52:58.719
It actually takes me longer than that to get down

1069
00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:00.519
thirty six flakes of stairs.

1070
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:02.960
You gotta walk down, I'm sure talk about.

1071
00:53:04.519 --> 00:53:06.639
Yeah, I do run down the stairs, though up the

1072
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:08.840
stairs not so much. It's a lot faster if you

1073
00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:12.679
just jump off the balcony. I'm just saying I tried it,

1074
00:53:13.239 --> 00:53:16.519
but just surfboard on the feet already just now the

1075
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:20.599
core to my mic actually almost choked me. And try

1076
00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:22.320
because that's why I did. I fear it would be

1077
00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:24.960
quicker if I just hopped on my surfboard and like

1078
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:28.480
glided through the air down onto the waves.

1079
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:34.639
Do not try that at home. Try that at home. Please,

1080
00:53:34.719 --> 00:53:37.760
this is your PSA warning for the end of the show.

1081
00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:41.480
Do not grabble. What the fuck I'm trying to give

1082
00:53:41.519 --> 00:53:43.480
them a quicker way to get down to the water.

1083
00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:47.320
You cannot jump off a balcony, especially a balcony on

1084
00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:51.320
the thirty something floor, and land on a surfboard in

1085
00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:51.719
the water.

1086
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:52.320
Don't do it.

1087
00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:54.719
Do not encourage people to do that.

1088
00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:55.320
Stop.

1089
00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:57.320
I've seen the guys a red Wood do way worse.

1090
00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:02.079
Exactly, rebel, there's people that do way worse.

1091
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:03.840
Do not reenact jacket.

1092
00:54:03.920 --> 00:54:06.840
I mean, look at you. Look at you, rebel. The

1093
00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:11.360
things you do. Things you know you're teaching. Yeah, you're

1094
00:54:11.400 --> 00:54:14.800
teaching people some really heinous stuff. Okay, I'm just saying.

1095
00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:18.000
Not teach people hateous stuff. I'm not the one talking

1096
00:54:18.039 --> 00:54:20.480
about jumping off of a thirty something floor of balcony

1097
00:54:21.079 --> 00:54:21.880
on a surfboard.

1098
00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:23.119
But what that note.

1099
00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:24.119
I gotta go, and so do we?

1100
00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:28.079
Yes, we do, we do, Okay, But before we go,

1101
00:54:28.239 --> 00:54:32.000
I'm just gonna say, people, we have a special episode

1102
00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:34.800
tomorrow we don't normally do on Thursday. Tomorrow, we have

1103
00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:38.280
a special episode. You're not gonna on this it. You're

1104
00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:42.079
gonna want tune in one pm Eastern time, same pipe channel,

1105
00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:45.760
same pipe time, right here on W four c Y Radio,

1106
00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:49.880
W four cy dot com. Now I'm gonna go back

1107
00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:51.360
to the surf roll it on.

1108
00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:03.760
Thank you you for listening to the adventures of Pipemin

1109
00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:07.840
on w for c u I Radio.