Statue of Liberty & Super Fly From Keith Roth of The Dictators, Sirius XM

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0:48 Why Kind of America? It's time for the adventures. You'll fight me. I'm going before see White I com list Pompass number one internet radio station. Here's your host, the man. Yo. It's what the fuck Wednesday here on the Adventurancepipe Man W four CY Radio W four cy dot com. And I gotta tell you something. We're broadcasting live today from the Statue of Liberty in France, so let's bring on our pipe nuts and let's find out what they think about that. Well, are you still in Louisia or are you with me in France at the Statue of Liberty swamp Nut, I am everywhere you want me to be.

1:33 Pipe man have studio nuts in Wellington, so he doesn't he doesn't know. But you know, we're broadcasting live in France from the Statue of Liberty. Because if any of you read the headlines and not the news and just spread stuff like you do, you probably think right now, just let but it may come true later down the road. Because remember towenty sixteen, I did a parody satire thing that you know that that Trump was going to invade Canada. And here we are so careful the stuff that screwed up crap that I say that possibly be true, just might end up true. So if you heard the news France wants back to Statue of Liberty, that is true.

2:30 The reason they're saying is because our country does not represent what the statue why they gave us the Statue of Liberty anymore? And of course, well it is Indian giving. But you know what, it's funny because we're like, no, we're not, we're not giving it back. Meanwhile, I think I'm pretty sure that I saw today they just towed the Statue of Liberty out of the New York Harbor and it's right now floating across the ocean on its way back to France. Mm. Yeah, that's going to be.

3:10 Well because somebody said, a fearless leader said you want it, come and get it, kind of like what happened when we tried to deport people to Mexico and they said, oh no, you can't do it that way. You know, well, you know you can't actually, So when somebody gives it, I'm trying to stop things from happening here before it gets too bad. So when someone gives you a gift, is it on a borrow system or is it all. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question, rebel in Louisiana. If you gave somebody, let's say, a knife as a gift and then they became a serial killer and was starting to cut people up with that knife and kill them, would you take back the knife?

4:05 Well, no, because it's not mine to take back and they probably need it for evidence. But you know, well why would they, Well maybe you would so they would stop killing people. You mean, you don't care if they just keep killing people. It is not my responsibility to take it. Did I give them? Don't you remember Seinfeld when they all got arrested for breaking the Good Samaritan law. Are you one of those people that you just you hand somebody a knife, they become a serial killer and they start killing people and you're like, yeah, I'm going to turn a blind eye. Not my business. I'm not going to turn a blind eye. But I mean, depending on who the person was, I might have to give them an alibi or take the knife and hide it, as you know, so it won't be found as evidence.

4:55 It depends on how you want to look at it. Really, it depends on would you have sexual relationship with that person. In depending on who it was, and you know the reasons behind things. See and you wonder why I give you crap for having never mind, I'm not even going to go there, because you know what, I got bettered things to do. Because I did an interview yesterday. It was really cool. He's a really, really cool dude. And he also happens to be the host of Ozzie's Boneyard and hair Metal on Serious XM and Rebel. You've been with me a long long time. Has there ever been a time that you've known me to actually literally promote a show on another station? Ever?

5:44 On my show? And that's because he was just a cool dude who also had some new music, okay, because he's also the lead singer, guitars, songwriter, he's with the Dictators, and he's also you know, basically just put out his own solo project. Okay, and when's that coming out? Well, did you read the notes? Like, do your research? Rebel? I wanted you to tell me because you got to interview. You got to do the interview. You didn't invite us to go see him in person. So but if I send you notes for today's show, okay, you need to like pay attention. Okay, so if you read the notes, you would know. Of course, when you know you've been out partying all night and your eyes are like that, of course you can't see the notes. Okay.

6:37 But March twenty first, it drops Deco Entertainment. Uh, there's a brand new song out as it's a cover, but it's really cool, like it brings me back to childhood, and we're gonna listen. I can't tell too much because we're gonna play the interview, so we'll just talk about it in the interview type of thing, you know. But Superfly, the minute I saw in a press release come to me, you know, because I get the press releases for all new music. I didn't even see his name. I just saw Superfly. I'm like, I'm in But then I saw his name, and I'm a fan because I actually listened to his show on serious XCN. So I'm here to say that right now, Keith Roth is a frickin' superstar in this industry. And we're about to play the interview that we did yesterday. So first we're going to talk a little bit about some spots on the Pipeman Radio tour where we are going to give away tickets, and I'll tell you at the end of the show, after the interview how you can win tickets to both Aftershock and Ladderdan Life. They're two separate contests, two separate festivals with the most badass lineups ever, including fucking Slayer. Okay, that's at LOWERD in Life, though not After Shock. That was last here. All right, you know what one, just shut me up and roll the commercials.

8:07 Commercials are interview, Well, the. Commercials, then the interview. Like in the notes I sent you, I thought you were better than. Rebel, Well you said after the video, play the commercials. Oh maybe I did play You know what play them now and yeah, you're right, we'll play the commercials after the interview. You're right, I'm wrong, Roll it strong. This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man W four C Y Radio. And I'm really excited about our next guest because I hate to mention this considering I own a radio station and I'm on my own radio station. But I listened to him all the time.

9:10 I serious XM. Because he's a he's a bad ass, but he's also a badass musician, and like he brought me back to my childhood with this new single we have, and so we're going to talk about it a little bit. So let's welcome to his show. Keith Roth. How are you, Fie Man. Good to see you, man, go to catch up with you again, I mean absolutely, and I thank you. How'd you like the single? Man? Oh? You know, it's funny because as somebody like in all the stages of rock music, I've I've pretty much hit most of them, being you know, born in the sixties. You know, I got the sixties and seventies, the eighties and all the way till now and man, superfly, I mean that just the minute I saw I didn't even see your name in the press release. I just saw that and I'm like, now that's in there review I have to do.

10:06 I'm glad you did it. I'm glad we did that song because, you know, I started writing songs which eventually turned into this album, and we were working with Bob Pantella from Monster Magnet and Atomic Bitchwax. We always did a lot of recording out of his studios, Freak Shop Studios, which is like being on a galactic space spaceship. But you know, I always loved the song, and you know, I had a lot of different people play on this, and I said, I always wanted to cover Superfly. I love Curtis Mayfield, I love the film. I love that whole seventies genre. And we just started jamming on it, and you know, Bob laying down that groove and we kind of tracked it really quickly, and then when he started adding all the percussion in there, and then he's like, all right, man, you should really like go for it with the vocal.

10:49 And then all of a sudden, I'm listening to a rough mix. I'm like, this is on the fucking album. You know this, And you know, because I love Curtis. He's been embedded in me, and you know, so I'm really happy the way the single came out. I mean a lot of people are like, why are you going to release a cover song for your second single? Because it fits the theme of the album, and it's you know, it's a as you said, you know, the sixties, the seventies, the eighties, the nineties. You know, I love all kinds of music, and I've always, you know, loved all kinds of music. So I think a lot of a lot of different influences are all over this record. I think that's a cool thing about growing through all these decades that really are like, we're rock evolved over the years because we got a taste of like just about every bit of it, where I think sometimes people today may not have that taste. I've actually talked to people at festivals that don't even know who led Zeppelin is, like stuff like that, or the Beatles, like, you know, crazy.

11:47 It just blows my mind because it's funny. You take Ozzy as an example, since you're on Auzzie's Boneyard. Ozzy is Ozzy because of the Beatles, no doubt, no doubt. If you talk to Ozzy about the Beatles. Now he's interested now, right, and he gets excited and he gets just like, oh, you know, did you hear this record? And he gets you know, I mean talking about himself. He does it all day, every day. But when you mentioned the Beatles and you say something really interesting that inspires him, it's a whole different guy and everything's making. Sense, you know. So yeah, right, exactly. It's funny because my neighborhood is kind of like that seventy show, you know, So like all the kids in my neighborhood, you know, they're like fifteen sixteen, their hairs some of them are hair down here, and they're walking the streets with boomboxes with their Led Zeppelin pink Floyd shirts.

12:41 And I'm like, right on, man, this is great. They got to a generation, you know, and especially with the Zeppelin film. But that's crazy. If you're playing music or you're going to a festival and you don't know how led Zeppelin is, you should be escorted out of there. I know, right, it's wild to me. But then there's the other side, like your mentioning it's wild. I'll go to the festivals. I'll see kids with like misfit shirts on or a pink Floyd shirt on, and I'm like, and they're not just wearing it to wear it because it looks cool. They actually know the music. And see that's cool to me too. Is like you go to a show now or a festival. Like in the eighties, I would go to these shows and we were the same age as the bands, and there was nobody older than us there, you know, right, and now you see.

13:27 We're still younger with still the youngest people there, right, And now you see these. Kids that are going to Metallica shows and I'm thinking to myself, that's bad ass, because when I was their age, there was no way I was going to see a band that was in their sixties or fifties. That's true. And you know we were talking earlier about you know, you see a Metallica out in the bay and I saw them first time, and you know, I know you're a Jersey guy originally, So the first time I saw them was playing a roller skating rink at Oldbridge on Route nine with Raven and you saw them out in the bay and it was like, I mean, it's cool, and it was a diy scene that was happening, and I have older brothers that got to see the dolls at Mercer Art Center, and so I felt like this was like a cool little revolution. But my wildest imagination that I ever think that Metallica would become the next led Zeppelin. And now you see all these kids and they go there with their parents and it's like, you know, it's all ages and it's cool. You know. Also with vinyl, you know, we grew up in that vinyl era, right.

14:29 I love the fact that vinyl has kind of saved the record industry. Sure, a lot of it is reissues, but the younger kids that I talked to or come out to shows, if they don't have it on vinyl. They don't own it. They have streaming services to see if they're actually going to buy the record, which is kind of cool because we used to trade cassette tapes, which is really that different. You know, I can make you a tape of a record I just bought you throw in your car, you can listen to on your stereo. It's a little bit longer to access it. But now I love the fact that vinyl, you know, is resurrected and the beauty of when we were kids with vinyl. You'd sit there, you read the liner notes, you knew who every producer was, who mastered stuff, and so it's good that that kind of infected another generation of format that we thought was long dead.

15:15 Is really the main thing that's keeping the industry alive, you know. Yeah. I also have ADHD. So if I went on a whole different tangent, I do apologize. Oh man, I love that because on my show I always go on different tangent. It doesn't matter. Like you pick up something, I'm like, oh, I'm going to run with that, you know. I think that's the way radio should be anyway. You know, like especially in this arena, you know, it should be just like let it take a life of its own. Hm. Basically there comes down and yeah. So my first album ever, here's an interesting story. My first album ever I won at the boardwalk in Seaside Heights. I've heard a lot of people say that, So that's cool.

15:57 What did you win? So I saw the album up there, I was like, man, those fucking dudes look cool. And it was the Kiss original album when it first came out. My buddy Sean Sean Mars plays in a band Mars each the same exact thing. He won the record at Seaside Heights on the Boardwalk and it was the first kiss record. That's amazing, actually, right, How cool is that? Oh? Yeah? And I became a total kiss freak and that after night and we were talking about the Beatles first grade. This dude did an oral report on the Beatles and I was like, oh, and then maybe I became like I had put wall to wall posters in my bedroom.

16:41 But I was like kind of like, I don't know, schizophrank or something, because one half was totally Kiss and the other half was totally the Beatles. And I always talk to people about how those two bands. People think that they're not related, talking about influences and where people I found them to be so similar, like and I tell people and they know hi, and think of that, you know how Like on every song that John and Paul wrote, it was John Paul. On every song that Gene and Paul wrote, it was Gene Paul. And whoever wrote the songs would sing the songs, you know, and stuff like that. There were so many similarities and I think that all holds to the evolution to where we are today. I agree.

17:22 And the other thing about the Beatles and Kiss is that you know each guy as you say and sing songs. But also everybody knew all four members. As a Kiss fan, you knew all four. You knew Gene, Paul, Peter and Ace, and you knew you know John, Paul, George and Ringo. I mean all four characters. You know a lot of people we led Zeppelin, Yellow No, Robert Planner, Jimmy Page. Some may not know John Paul Jones and right, but I mean with those two there was a lot of similarities. And of course you know the Kiss being huge Beatle freaks. I mean, you know exactly there again, you know, and so it's kind of cool and speakings. Like years later, I had a history class and I only had one project that was an oral report I did on Ozzy.

18:09 Wax Sabbath, Right, I know Ozzy. It was like it was Ozzy went when Blizzer of Oz came out. I had Blizzer of Oz on eight track, by the way, and uh, and I there was a music teacher that took over the history class. So this jat class was like He's like, all you gotta do is do a report on anything you want, and that's your whole grade for the semester. So I pitt I did Ozzy Satanism in his music. That, yeah, I wonder if I even have that somewhere. A record too. I brought in Diary of a Madman with me. I brought in I have this shirt that is a Diary of Madman shirt that I actually put on the back is remember back in the day, we used to put our own art on stuff, and I put in memory of Ram Roads. I did get to see Randy Roads right before he died, so that was iconic.

19:05 I saw Ozzie and Randy. The first time I saw them was at the Palladium. You remember the Palladium on Fourteenth Street. Yeah, there's two it was. It was a five thirty and a nine thirty show. We're young, so the plan was, all right, we'll go to the five thirty show from Metro Park. We went, you know, Penn Station. We're like, we'll walk down to fourteenth Street. Showed me over by eight o'clock. You know, our curfew was like ten. I mean we were young kids, right, and we saw you know, Motorhead opening and you know, reading about them and then seeing them visually, I was like, holy shit. Let me from Hawkwind. This band is insane. And then Ozzie would Randy and We're like, fuck this, I don't care if I'm grounded forever. And then back in those days, I mean, we had really good seats for the five thirty show, but we went out and scalped for the nine thirty show, all the way in the back of the play and we spent like twenty bucks.

19:52 I mean that was like kind of a standard thing back then, right, And we watched and needless to say, when I came home, both my parents were sleeping. I didn't get in any trouble, and neither to my other friend. The other guy that was with us was grounded for like a month. As as a matter of fact, I don't think I ever saw him again. But it was well worth it to see, you know. And so I know what it was like to see Ozzie and Randy, and we didn't have cameras. We know, freeze, you know, it was great. It's funny because I have a similar story. It was one of those things where they were playing. Ozzie was playing New Year's Eve in La I think it was at the Forum or something like that, and me and my bro I said to my dad again, I'm sleeping over so and so's house, and he said he was sleeping over my house. And then we went to the Ozzie Show and we came back. And we lived in Lake Lindero in Agra in California, and there was like a hill down to the lake in my backyard, so we just waded down at the bottom like for my parents, to my dad to kind of wake up and like we were going to come back home or something like shit like that. We were out in the morning or whatever, and my neighbor, this woman comes out. She sees us and all the AUSI shit, and she goes, did you guys, did you boys go to Ozzie Show last night? And we're like yeah. She goes, stay right there, I need to introduce you to my husband. And we're like, weirded out because my next door neighbor. We're gonna get in trouble man, right, And then the husband comes out. Yeah, the husband comes out. He invites us up to the house,

21:24 brings us in his studio, which was wall to wall cassette tapes. He was fucking Aussie's promoter. Oh really, right next door to me. I never knew, And so He's like giving a schwag and all this stuff and it was like the coolest experience ever. And then he hands me this cassette tape. He said, this band is going to be an America in like six months. Nobody knows about him yet. Here I'm giving you the demo tape and uh, they're gonna be huge. And that was that was accept fast as a shark. Wow. Wow right, and that was a heavy record too. Man. I remember being pretty floored when I heard that that album and it's I mean, yeah, that was really cool and unique at that point.

22:10 It took them a while to catch on. And what's funny is you know, you being a Jersey guy, Mark from Teach Quick has been singing with them for so many years and I just saw them not this Monster's rock the last and I for the first time, ironically getting to see him when Mark. You would have thought I saw him sooner, but I didn't. And to me, they were even better than nice, you know. But yeah, of course, man, that's pretty cool when you have a neighbor that could turn you on the bands months before you know the record comes. Out, right, And I was like, I don't know, say that again. No, I'm saying, you know, if you went to the Aussie show, you know, you're just like, oh, the neighbor gave me stuff. You know our neighbors is you know he worked for him?

22:50 Yeah? No, Dad, we didn't go to any show. You know, hit our neighbor. You got some fool of vouch for you, which is always a great thing. Totally, totally. So one of the things I wanted to ask you too, is what's it like to be the musician and the radio jock. I've been a musician as far back as I can remember, and you know, I never had any aspirations to do radio, to be honest with you. And a woman, Amy Christie, who used to run a rock magazine, you know, in New York and New Jersey. She she came out and did a story on a band I was playing with in the nineties, and then she moved and then I was living in Long Branch, New Jersey at that point, and she moved down to that neck of the woods and there was a radio station opening.

23:36 Called The Rat. I remember the Rat still there, still there a lot of the same crew, And she said, you know, would you be interested in doing a radio show with me? I'd been talking to the general manager and my first reaction was like, no, I don't want to like front and back sell like hey, Memorial Day Weekend, the Big Nine with an. Aalen or you know, or Corn coming up. You know, No, she's no, no, we could you know, play whatever we want as long as there's no obscenity and we can between the people. We know, you know, we could bring bands down. And so we went into this meeting. I never expected to get it. You know, my daughter was just born born. I dropped her on the table at this big meeting. They want to meet with us, and for some reason, the Great Dan Finn said I have a feeling about you guys, and he took a chance and we did that show.

24:24 I ended the show back in July at twenty twenty four, but that was in like ninety eight. And you know, throughout the years, we had the Ramones come down, you know, Joey and those guys and Johnny you know, Alice Cooper, John Paul Jones, I mean, the Kinks, because we knew a lot of people and they love doing the show because it's kind of like this, you know, I mean, you know, there's we could talk for forty minutes and then catch up on all the commercials we had that time, and it resonated. So from doing that, and then I get a call when I want to do a punk rock show for serious radio, and I had never heard of satellite radio. I thought it was like Wayne's World, Like, honestly, what the fuck is satellite radio?

25:06 And they're like, oh, you could do a punk show and you. Could do a weekend on first Wave and left the center, and I have no idea what they're talking about. But to be honest, the bread was good enough to come. Into the city and they said it would be one day a week, you know, five hours whatever. So I come in for an interview and I walked in and when I got off the elevator and I walked through that glass door and growing up on New York legends like Meg Griffin and Carol Miller and Pat Saint John, they were all there, and I'm like, I'm going to educate myself quickly. So that's how I started. I did a punk show called The Punk Yard, and then which led me doing The Boneyard, which became Ozzie's. No, it was Buzzsaw, which became Ozzy's Boneyard and then Meg Griffin, who I'm very close with. You know, she connected me even though I was friendly with David Johansson, but having the honors of produce and engineer his show and for over twenty years. So I mean that's how I got a radio but a musician. And it's funny because people who only know me as a musician as people that only know me from radio. So with the solo record, I guess the hope is to bring them all together, like we know Keith Roth from so and so, you know, Frankenstein three thousand of the Joe Hanson group, whatever they know me for and from oh that's the dude from Ozzie's Boneyard or whatever. So hopefully it could expand the audience with just simply being Keith Roth.

26:26 But it is a personal record. So but you know that's why it's just under my name this. Week, and tell us more about the record. Okay, we talked a little bit about Superfly, but give us a little insight on the rest of the record. And you know what came from inside. Well, you know I also play. In a band called the Dictators, Yeah, since the seventies, and so it was really really great time, you know, as an artist, because they had wanted to put together a Frankenstein three thousand compilation which just came out called Lost in Space one. So I was really digging through the vaults and tweaking stuff on that, and the Dictators were in the thick of making a new record, and I was really prolific in writing. But all these songs didn't make sense for the Dictators or Frankenstein. So I went to my buddy Mike Jaffy, I'm like, I got a group of songs, what do you think of these?

27:17 And he's like, these are really cool, and he has a studio and he's like, let's work them out, and you know, and then we went into Bob Pantellas and we started recording stuff. But I just knew that these songs were more personal, more me and a lot of different variety. And plus, when it's your name, you could do super fly or you could do you know something that somebody said the other day sounded like the band Luna, which I loved, or you know, or just like a rock song like the opening track don't feel like think it today, but it's a there's a theme in my head. It's a concept record, you have to kind of jump in to see what it's all about. And you know, having a lot of great people help me out on it, like you know, obviously playing with Ross the Boss from The Dictators and working with Punky Meadows in the past.

27:58 Him and Danny are on there, and Albert Buschard lays down some drums, and Bob from Monster Magnet, who I've done a lot of work with throughout the years, and you know, it's one of those records and you don't cherry Pickett, You just hit play and it's a it's a musical journey and if I'm happy with it, to be honest, that's That's the one thing I learned many years ago is I never really was into following trends. I mean, if you look at my musical history, none of it matches up. To what was going on at that point, you know what I mean. I love it. You know, in the. Nineties it was punk rock, you know, and then you know, a band I wasn't called Bad Biscuit. We were very punk rock and for the time, and then a lot of it kind of sounded like what Green Day did a few years later, and and but after you know, I just wanted to. I became really happier when I just started wanted to do my own thing and and that kind of you know, and stopped listening to a lot of stuff.

28:50 You know, I just was into my own thing for a while, and you know, the bands that I. Grew up with, as you were saying, like, those are the really you know, around eighty seven eighty eight is when I really got out of you know, a lot of the metal stuff that was going on, and I reverted back to all the stuff that my brothers played around the house. And I grew up in the Bronx, so I thought everybody knew. Who the MC five were in the Stooges and David Peel on the Lower east Side, and nobody really knew. It was fortunate that this little area people knew this kind of music. And then around eighty eight everything got so homogenized that I just reverted as a complete throwback. And you know, of course along the way you discovered great bands like Red Cross or people that are doing stuff out of the box. But you know, that's and being on you know, Ozzie's Bonyard. I mean, that's the stuff I grew up on. I mean, that was me and my buddies, you know, keg parties in the woods, Black Sabbath, you know, and you know guns n' roses.

29:42 I love guns and you know, and of course David Johansson. You know, we turned out to be one of my greatest friends ever and his passing still devastates me. But yeah, you know, all that seventies New York glam stuff and English glam stuff and punk rock. That's really what I listened to from eighty eight till till now. It's funny you mentioned about your brothers because there's some bands I've interviewed that I tell them like I did the John Lodge from the Moody Blues recently, and I was, yeah, no, the reason I took this interview is because I used to steal my brother's album of yours and listen to it all the time, you know. And that is the cool thing today is like we were saying before, it's like we have this history of different types of music throughout our life. It doesn't mean we didn't like all different types. It just means there were so many different trends and things that I think were more well rounded because of it. In a musical sense. You know, it's like if you can, I can sit there and I can go listen to Earth Wind and Fire and then go listen to Slayer exactly, I mean.

30:47 And that's you know, the beauty of going record shopping. When I was a kid, I remember there was a record store in call of City, in the Bronx, and you know, it was a big treat. You know, my mom giving me ten bucks and you know, be able to go buy two records. I remember what time buying Diamonds are Forever soundtrack with the Used Corporation and I think it might've been Aerosmith Rocks, you know, all on the same day or whatever. I've always been a James Bond collector. But I mean, you know, so, I mean, and nobody judged anything that was cool, you know, like Miles Davis said, man cool good music is good music, no matter what kind of music it is. And I think for me, like to nineteen. Eighty one really kind of felt like a lot of great bands, a lot of great stuff that came out after, but a lot of the originality kind of ended there because everything a year after that, you know, after the Beatles and the Stones and the Who and you know, the punk rock and you know bands out of Detroit.

31:41 I mean, sure, some of it's played faster, some of it's played electronic, some of it, you know, and even rap music back then, you know, the sugar Hill Gang I was all incorporated from eighty one down, so you. Know, people you know, pushed it a little forward and you know, and did. Some great stuff with it. But to me, that was kind of like the last year of originality. I know people will love to argue with me about that, but that's how I feel. Hey, I see, that's what's cool about Jersey Boy or Jersey Girl is like you're going to know where you stand regardless, you know, And I'd rather people speak their mind, like I think, even if you're an artist that they're speaking about, Like if I were the Harst, I'd I would listen to it and go, well, maybe I should evaluate some things.

32:26 You know. I think you learn more from your critics than the people that love you. That's that's true, as long as they're honest, right, you know, Yeah. And they're not being dicks about it and just being honest, that's all. Yeah. It's so funny you mentioned sugar Hill Gang because I remember being in seventh grade and my my bro playing Rappers Delight when it first came out, and I was like, Wow, that is so cool and who have known we would be where we are today with that kind of music. Yeah, I mean I got to throw a run DMC in the mix because they were very revolutionary and they were past eighty one. I mean, of course there's some things you know, Melly. Mel and you know, Grand Master Flash, you know, and then yeah, and the soul music of the sixties, you know, I mean I love it all, you know.

33:11 I mean if you people. Would be shocked if they were around my house and see what I listened to, you know, And you know, I mean right now, I think it's probably XTC and some kind of seventies blaxploitation soundtrack or Funkadelic or Parliament or you know, or Black Sabbath, you know what I mean. You know, I mean that's the beauty and that's why you know, you do such a great show because you get all that stuff, you know. Well, you know, I also look at what you're saying, is it's the musicianship. I think there was a lot more musicianship even with metal nowadays, Like some of these bands. I think to myself, man, metal was never an algebraic equation. It's like they use an algebraic equation to write the song, whereas like songs just used to be written from the heart and like you just it was a story. And then the musicianship was important, you know, not people I'm really.

34:06 Good back then, and people we looked up to you thrived to be good, you know, like good. You know, I never thought I was good until like ten years ago. That's why I was like, yeah, I'm actually good now. It took a long time to get there, even though I was on the path. But I mean, you know, because some of the you know, I mean I'm playing clubs where guys like Zach Wilde and you know, Dave DiPietro and you know guys, these guys incredible talents, and I mean, you know, in Jersey there's so many talented guys, and it's all time to feel like I was on the level with those guys. But it always kept the striving us. But you know, and then again, you know, my punk rock roots, it's like, you know, I knew how to play the you know, I auditioned for the Ramones. Somebody just interviewed me about this. I was one one of a few people that got a second audition. There's a Ramones documentary coming out soon that they talked to me about it. But when I was able, how I learned how to play is the first Ramones record, if which the balance one way, it's just bass. All you can ear's bass, and and you switch it the other way.

35:05 And I was just content, you know, being a punk rock kid and loving that. But the older I think, you know, I still to this day and age, I practice more now than I did when I was a kid, and I you know, I it's like running man. You got to run every day to keep you know, your child on them. That's where you're smart because I played drums for nine years. I played guitar, and I sang thrash metal, and I sucked at all three and there was one common ingredient. I didn't have that dedication to practice, like I remember reading about Randy Rhodes back then he practiced like eight hours a day. I'm like, I'm not fucking practicing eight hours a day. You got to practice because it doesn't when it doesn't feel like practicing, you know what I mean, especially you know I was content being, you know, a songwriter writing punk tunes and.

35:51 It was cool. But I'm like, ah, you know, not in the league of these guys. But then you know, you over time, it just naturally happens. And uh. I remember playing with Monkey Meadows. You know, they're like a progressive and you know, that was a real challenging gig. But really, after doing that, and you know you work, you're as good as who the people you play with. I've noticed, especially drummers, I mean the band. If you have a great drummer, the band is great. If you have a shitty drummer, the band sucks. I mean, it's as good as the people you play with. So as a musician, you're going to be as good as whoever you know what the band sounds like. And Punky was a great example of that because those guys were all really great players and playing some really great, intricate stuff.

36:32 So I don't find a challenger. I find it fun. It's like yeah, you know, yeah see, but you know as h but yeah, I think. Through Covid was probably the most I played guitar in my whole life, you know, I mean being stuck in the house and not because I felt like I needed a practice. I just like I just got into playing. Like you know, I fell in love with playing guitar, which I never did. I used it as a tool to write songs, but I really got it. And also being in a band with Ross the Boss from the Dictators. I mean, he's an incredible motherfucking guitar player. He's one of the best out there, so nice, heeps pushing me and it's fun, you know. I mean, you know, am I Ripe old age of twenty seven? You know, I feel.

37:13 And I do love that you mentioned COVID because I have said for a while now that if you're going to pick a positive to come out of COVID with is that bands an artist had a chance to jump off the hamster wheel and actually go back to being creative and having the time to really that. I think some of the best music we're ever going to have might come out of that time because of it. I agree with you. I agree with you. I mean, the COVID thing was very odd for me because I definitely suffered some PTSD during it because every year he played the lou Reed birthday party, you know, Mark Bowery Electric. We did it for a few years in a row. And we played a show on March first, and the great Hal Wilner was there, you know, lou Read's and SNL and a couple of weeks after the show, and also we had played Michael Ilago's book signing, and you know, we just started hearing about COVID. And then I get a call like a week or two after that gig that hol Wilner had passed away, and I was like, oh, I'm really and he said, you know, he died of COVID. And you know, to see this guy a few weeks ago, and what a talent. And then all of a sudden, the floodgates opened. You know, a lot of guys in New York City, Alan Merrill, Adam Schlessinger from Fountains of Wayne, a neighbor four doors down, a guy in great shape in his forties, and all these people were dying, like my friend Tony Dinado, like within forty eight period. Just hearing these so I thought like, all right, fasten your seatbelts man. This is like seventies

38:43 sci fi and really like sad, like great, you know, and what they were saying on the news about, oh well, if you set in your late sixties and you have. I wasn't seeing that. I mean, sure some of them were, but the majority of them were very That first strain was so freaking strong, and then I think it went from Seattle to New York and it took down a lot of great people. And I know people today that are just getting over it that had that first strain. You know all that. So I got it. I got it in January of twenty twenty from doing a red carpet at the Oscars. Wow, I mean, did you have a really enough time with it or now? I I was in La I live in Florida. I was at my bro's house. He was nervous because I'm the type of person if I have one hundred and four temperature and pneumonia, I'm still going one hundred percent.

39:29 I did not leave the room for like three days. I was dying, and then I came out. I was like, oh, I finally feel like I'm a little alive. And then a day later it went back to worse again. You know how that first strain was. And then I went When I got back to Florida, I was supposed to go to Costa Rica a week to go surfing, and I was still feeling like crap and I couldn't breathe, and so I went finally went to a doctor and on my record it literally he says, unidentified organism. They didn't even know what the hell it was. It had no idea. Yeah, no it was. And so then I went to Costa Rica, came back and three days later we were lockdown.

40:13 Yeah, yeah, it was. I was in the city the night that the lockdown kicked in. I mean, ironically, I was on the Lower East Side and playing a lot around that March frame. But you know, starting to hear about Seattle, and you know, even my daughter, who's a nurse, I mean, and she's a runner. She runs, so she's like you in the sense that you know, you have to be like completely like paralyzed to not do it. And she was like, you know, Dad, I can't breathe. And I got this fever. And this was like in February, and I took her to the doctor, and uh, nobody knew what was wrong with her. And then they said it's your dad. Cool, and like, hey, he's cool. He's like, uh, you might be maybe you're pregnant, right, And then I left the room, but she had antibodies, so I'm thinking she may have had, you know, before it was really announced what it was.

41:02 But it was just devastating because we lost so many great people during Yeah. I mean I've had it myself, you know, maybe a year after. I really didn't have a hassle with it. And as a matter of fact, all the dictators we all got it together. And you know, it's like a bad to me every time I get it. I just got off the Mansa's rock crew, so I'm waiting for it to kick. But it's it's just that headache is the worst part of it, you know. Oh, no doubt. I had it two other times after that. My grandkids gave it to me and it was pretty easy the two other times, I can say, but I'm so glad that live music is back and better than ever in some cases. And like, here's the thing, I think people going to festivals and concerts were complaining way too much before COVID that hopefully it changed your opinion.

41:53 And just because I don't care now if some kids up there playing a recorder, I want to be a live show. I want it miss one again. It was so rewarding when when the floodgates opened, and uh, going out and playing again, you know, uh, it was amazing. You know. I think the first thing I did is, uh, you know Mark Weiss, the photographer, he's a good He did this event at some little theater in Middletown, and uh, I have a cover band that I play, you know, in the Red Bank area, and we played and we had people like Bumblefoot and car Mina Piece. Anybody wanted to do anything at that point, and it was just great to see people again and being outside. And then you know, shortly going out with the Dictators out to Canada and and just getting back into the groove of it, you know, I mean, listen to a lot of that stuff too. Is you really should throw yourself into it and you know, let your body do its own business and and get through it. And uh but uh but but when the when the when the floodgates opened up.

42:48 I mean that was great. And I don't even think about that anymore, to be honest, not at. All at all. I love that we're just living life again and you know, great music, so much great music is out there because of it, including your new album dropping on March twenty first, couple of days, the Love Diminished returns through Deco Entertainment. I am so excited about this because for those people out there that maybe not have not heard you as the musician, or you've never put anything solo out, they need to get this album because it is badass. Tell everybody how they can get it, how they can you know, the types of packages that they can get, vinyl, whatever your socials, everything they need to know.

43:40 I'm kind of anti social media, but I mean, in all serious Deco Entertainment dot com, you could get the vinyl. I think there's limited edition blue vinyl that really looks amazing. The CDs and streaming come out on Deco Entertainment. You know Amazon. I just did a talk Shop Live. I know they got some sign copies of the vinyl and this Talkshop Live dot com, Deco Entertainment dot com, Amazon, you know, streaming and all your favorite platforms, every stream music. So check it out. Hopefully you like it, and you know, thank you man, thank you for you know, talking about the record. I really appreciate that pipe man. Oh absolutely in the first single you put on December that that speaks to me. I don't feel like thinking today I think lately I've been feeling that a lot.

44:27 You know. I wrote that song in three minutes. I really yeah. I mean it was one of those days where you're in these text groups with friends and they're fighting about this and that and politics and all this stuff, and then you're going through the news and this and that this one's saying, you know, and it was just and then people, you know, other drama has nothing to do with anything, and I literally just said, man, I just don't fucking feel like thinking today, and I'm like, that's pretty good song title. And then I just ran came up with the riff and I was like, it just came out of me, and most of the verses that I scattered away became a lot of the end. But it's a very poppy, fun song, but there's some real honesty in those lyrics about you know, just what was going through my head for those that timeline at that point.

45:11 But yeah, I think there's another song that's only available on the CD and and I don't even think it's going to be streaming, but that's going to be a release, you know, because now with the record dropping on Friday, it's just those two singles. But that one's going to come out after the fact, and I think we're going to do a video for that. But yeah, you know, listen, at this point, I know every bell and whistle on the record, so I'm ready to do another one. You know, I love it. I love it. Any final thoughts you want to give us on the record or anything you got coming up? Yeah, well, as as Keith Roth, I got some shows coming up with fog Hat. It should be an interesting fund And I know Roger for years, so I think I know we're playing May seventeenth in Patchog, New York.

45:54 I know the Dictators were on Little Stevens Cruise, which is in May. We're looking way forward to that with a social and the helicopters and x and there's other stuff popping up, but Dictators dates will probably be announced before we get on the cruise. As getting back to me with the solo stuff, some shows with fog Hat, but there's a lot of stuff that's kind of culminating right now, so over the next couple of weeks a lot more info. But you know, you can find me on Facebook Keith row Out, the Dictator's site, you know, keeps in the loop and of course you can listen to me every day Rand and Rave on Ozzie's Boneyard and hair Nation. And finally, the David Johansson tribute that me and Meg Griffin are doing is Aaron on Wednesday. I don't know when this is airing, so but that airs Wednesday eleven pm East on the Spectrum Channel twenty eight and it's me and Meg talking about personal stories with David and sharing some of our favorite songs.

46:45 And I think it'll probably be on demand after that as well. Nice, well, we'll make sure the airlifts so that they can catch that and get your album and all that good stuff. And you are badass. Thank you well, thank you very much, and hey, thanks for being on the Adventures of pipe Man. I hope to be back again pipe Man. Thank you, bro. I hope you are too, and I'm sure you will. And now I gotta go do my live show, so we'll have to we'll talk more and we'll promote the shit out of this on my show, because you're just the all around music person and everybody needs to if they don't know you, they need to get to know you and at the very least go get the album.

47:30 Thank you for spreading the spreading the word. Man, It's been a lot of fun hanging out with you before the interview and now and you know the pipe man, Rock and Roll, my Brother. Louder than Life, America's loudest festival, returns to Louisville this September with Slayer, Deep Zones of the Sevenfold, Bring Me the Horizon, Plugin, Suicide Boys, Fat, Omens, Drop. Zombie, a Perfect Circle, Marilyn. Manson, Heavan, Essence, Knocker, Loose, three Days for Lamb of God, and so many more. Louder Out, Dan and Live September eighteenth through twenty first in Louisville, Kentucke Passes are on sale now. Not Louder than Live festival dot com.

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48:55 People. You can win tickets louder in life. You can win pick gets to Aftershock. All you have to do is DM me pipe Man Radio on any of my socials and in your DM tell me for that specific festival that you're looking to win tickets, because you can only win to one. Tell me what you think are my five favorite bands to see at that specific festival, and you'll be whether you're right or wrong, you'll automatically be entered to win week end passes. Okay, man, these are two of my favorite festivals to cover. They have two of my favorite lineups this year, and that has Badasses shit And then okay, make sure tonight to catch that show Keith was talking about and so Rebel yes, uh oh she's scared. I'm not scared.

49:57 One. You heard how she resid it was scared, absolutely right? See Okay, so rebelared? Yes? What do you think of that interview? He is so cool? You are so lucky to have interviewed him. I know right here, but here was what was cool too? Is how you like? At the end, I said, I have to go to my live show, and literally we're back to the live part of it. It was like I planned it out and I didn't. It's a show within a show, I know, right, it's the show within the show. You know what else? It is? Fucking flare?

50:40 Now it's more like what the fucking flayer? There you go? All right? So any final words from you guys, anything else you want to come out about the interview or or the statue of Liberty or snails? Make sure to buy the album on the twenty first. Good job Rebel. You finally read the notes. I listened to him. Oh man, so, uh did you know? Not that you should do this, but did you know what happens if you pour salt on a snail and not try this at home?

51:20 Doesn't it come out of its shell? Or doesn't it die? Get? It melts? It like bubbles up and melts. How weird is that? That's horrible? Why would you tell people. That I'm not telling them so they don't do it? Come tell them? So you know, why listen? Because if I didn't tell them the answer they'd be like, Oh, I'm curious. I'm gonna you know what happens you try this at home? No matter? How about how about this one last thing and then we'll go rebel. Is this something you do in Louisiana? What happens when you combine a magnifying glass with ants?

52:05 They burn up? Oh? Look, she's done that. That's how we look at. People do it. Yeah, you can'd see look at those glasses. You're where? Okay with thoughts? But you know what I loved most of all about today's show is that while I was doing that interview, I went downstairs and like, this is the first time there was waves and forever, and so I during the interview, I'm back, I'm look out. I'm seeing people surfing down there. So I decide, oh I got some time, and I went down, surfed a few waves, and we're back ready to close the show out.

52:50 Oh you are so lucky, look at you. Yeah, well it's. Time to go rock and roll people. It actually takes me longer than that to get down thirty six flakes of stairs. You gotta walk down, I'm sure talk about. Yeah, I do run down the stairs, though up the stairs not so much. It's a lot faster if you just jump off the balcony. I'm just saying I tried it, but just surfboard on the feet already just now the core to my mic actually almost choked me. And try because that's why I did. I fear it would be quicker if I just hopped on my surfboard and like glided through the air down onto the waves. Do not try that at home. Try that at home. Please, this is your PSA warning for the end of the show.

53:38 Do not grabble. What the fuck I'm trying to give them a quicker way to get down to the water. You cannot jump off a balcony, especially a balcony on the thirty something floor, and land on a surfboard in the water. Don't do it. Do not encourage people to do that. Stop. I've seen the guys a red Wood do way worse. Exactly, rebel, there's people that do way worse. Do not reenact jacket. I mean, look at you. Look at you, rebel. The things you do. Things you know you're teaching. Yeah, you're teaching people some really heinous stuff. Okay, I'm just saying. Not teach people hateous stuff. I'm not the one talking about jumping off of a thirty something floor of balcony on a surfboard.

54:22 But what that note. I gotta go, and so do we? Yes, we do, we do, Okay, But before we go, I'm just gonna say, people, we have a special episode tomorrow we don't normally do on Thursday. Tomorrow, we have a special episode. You're not gonna on this it. You're gonna want tune in one pm Eastern time, same pipe channel, same pipe time, right here on W four c Y Radio, W four cy dot com. Now I'm gonna go back to the surf roll it on. Thank you you for listening to the adventures of Pipemin on w for c u I Radio.