June 7, 2026
Ted Aguilar of Death Angel at Milwaukee Metal Fest - PipemanRadio Interview
Pipeman speaks with Ted Aguilar of Death Angel at Milwaukee Metal Fest. We have a lenght conversation discussing the festival and the current tour with Vio-Lence and Incite. Plus we dig deep into sharing stories from the 80s.
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Hi, you love lunto censure for Wow, for you young.
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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures of
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Pipe Man W four c Y Radio. Here at Milwaukee
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Metal Fest. It's raining outside, but thank god this festival
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is inside and we won't get evacuated. Like what happened
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at Welcome to Rockville. And we're here with a band
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that played at Rockville that I just caught at the
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Culture Room in Fort Laurideo and now here they are
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at Milwaukee Metal Fest. Death Angel. How are you?
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I'm doing all right? How are you doing?
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Man? Oh? How could I be bad? We're here at
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a metal festival?
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Man?
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Oh? Totally Milwaukee, the Rave, the good old rave man.
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You know, it is amazing, like the first time ever
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did a festival in Wisconsin. Like I'm a rig from
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Jersey in LA I'm like, what the fuck am I
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going to do in Wisconsin? Until I got here, and
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these metal fans here are fricking insane. I love it.
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Metal fans are diehards man wherever you go.
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You know, it's funny you should say that because I
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meet people and they're like, well, I used to like metal,
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and I'm like, then you never liked metal because there's
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nobody that is a metal head that used.
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To like well, I know a lot of people like
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that were metal was a phase and they get out
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of it. But the true ones, man, they carry it
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on forever. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Mean we all go.
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Through phases in life regardless.
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Then there's people where, like, you know, there's a peak
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of metal where everyone, especially with when the Black Album
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came out, Metallica's by everyone's into metal. Then it dies down,
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you know because of the height. But true metal head
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stick with it.
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See I'm different with the Black Album.
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Oh no, we get amen.
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It's debatable, bro, Let's debate it. I like it. I
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like it now though, but's debate it. Dude. I'm a
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Metallica fan, true and truth was that Metallica's first show
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ever okay in La all right, and so I was
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one of those twenty five original die hard Metallica fans
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that when they came out with them like fucking posers sellouts.
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But it is a great fucking album, you.
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Know what it's I understand from a hardcore fans perspective
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why people don't like the Black Album. I totally get it.
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But it had to be done. I mean even large
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even said it during the Justice tour, like man we
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tapped out, we tapped out. They had to do something different,
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and whether you like it or not, they it was
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their call. It wasn't a record label called. They knew
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they had to do something. And at that time, music
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changes every ten years, remember the seventies. Then you get
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into the eighties and they were writing the eighties and
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they knew, like, we got to do something different musically,
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and if they want to sustain, you have to.
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It's just the nature of the game.
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But I do understand from a hardcore Metallica's fan perspective,
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you know, you know they're sell out.
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I get that.
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But if they would have done another Justice or whatever,
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I don't think they would be as big as they
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would be.
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A lot of like a lot of la thrash bands
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that didn't go to the Bay Area that you don't
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even know who they are today. I mean they were.
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They had good foresight and there were always like five
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steps ahead of everyone else.
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Well, it's funny you should say that too. And before
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I go on with that, I am going to say
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that the difference is I was a teenager when I
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felt that way, and as an adult I get it, yeah,
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And I get it that a musician can't play the
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same album over and over again. You need to expand,
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you need to you know, experiment and really get better
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at your craft. You do, I mean, no matter what.
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As a musician, and when you're especially in metal, you're
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going to get crucified. And judge whether you're going to
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do that if you repeat yourself or you want to expand,
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So what are you gonna do?
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Exactly?
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You're gonna get crucified either way. So I'd rather get
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crucified and expand, and just so you feel happy creatively
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and musically.
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I think we wouldn't be here today if it weren't
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for the Black Album. I don't think so, because you
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wouldn't have the extreme metal going the direction it's gone.
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Yeah, you wouldn't have the people like you know who
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are like who anti Black Album?
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I get it, you know what I mean?
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And it went extreme and you know what, it's all
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good man. Music is subjective, and we're here today. You know,
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some people get it years later, some people don't. And
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it's okay, but you know, all roads lead to here
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exactly exactly.
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Now, I'm going to show you something although I'm kind
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of embarrassed about one thing I'll tell you about. But
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this is my eighties battle vest.
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Wow, dude, well.
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I bring it out during certain interviews to check it out.
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The reason I'm embarrassed is as pretty much every band
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on there except that Angel, I don't know how that happens.
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That's okay, man, that's okay. You know we're one of those.
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Slayer didn't even have a patch yet, so I made
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that up. That's awesome, dude. That's like iron right, like
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an iron felt felt in l A. People thought it
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was gang Bagger and that was my gang maid. Oh totally, dude.
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It looked like it looked like you're from La Hood, right,
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And I drew all that ship on there. That's true.
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That's that's real deal, right, hey man, that's what we
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did back then, exactly.
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Like I look at some of these other battle vests,
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I'm like, I don't want to buy a pre made
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one because.
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This but that's today. But that's me. But yeah, that's
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that's sign of the times, right. I mean, but now
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you have, you know, options, which is good. You know,
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you just got to adjust to the times. I know that.
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I get it.
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People old school, this should do. But we're not living there.
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But I'm glad, but we're glad we lived it right.
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So, and I agree with you because would I buy
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one of those pre made battle vests if it was cool? Yeah,
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but this is the one that was me is type
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of thing. It even has blood on it from.
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I'll tell you. If there were pre made back then
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people would buy it. But there wasn't. So you had
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to go.
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Exactly, exactly exactly. And so how did it happen that
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you ended up in Death Angel?
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Wow? Good question. Let me go back. I've been a
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fan of theirs for a very long time. My first
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time seeing Death Angel was on the Ultra Violence tour.
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It was a show in San Francisco. It was for
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the Voracious Soul's video shoot. They were shooting video for
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it and they were doing live footage at a show
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and it was ironically, it was with Violence before Eternal
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Nightmare came out. They were under Demo Nice. It was
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in July of eighty seven.
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I just graduated from grade school eighth grade.
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Wow.
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Yeah, And I went to see him.
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I had the Ultra Violence incredible record and I saw
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him on all their tours. I saw him on ultra
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violence for Alic through the park in Act three, I
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saw him, and of course they broke up, and you know,
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Mark went and did his thing. He moved to New
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York the other guys from the organization, and I got
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to know the guys throughout the years.
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And was it.
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In late late nineties early two thousands, Mark came back
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to San Francisco, or he was already there, and him
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and Rob and Andy got back together and they formed
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a rock band called Swarm. And at the time, I
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was in a local band. I formed a local band
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with some friends called Sift, and we were doing like
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you know, Alice and Chains neurosis type music, and our
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band and Mark and Rob's band, Swarm would play together
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locally in the San Francisco Bay area at the time.
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We did a lot of shows together.
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And when it was there was the Chuck Billy benefit
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Thrash of the Titans. Yeah, and dath Angel was the
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last band to confirm, and I remember.
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Holy shit thatthing was doing.
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I never thought they'd do it, because those guys said,
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we're done with it, you know, we left, you know,
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we ended it on the high. They went out and
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did all other musical projects and I respected him for that,
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and I remember Rob called me and goes, hey, dude,
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you know, did you hear that dath Angels doing this
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benefit for Chuck Billy?
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And I said, dude, I saw it. I heard about it, dude.
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And I actually to Rob, dude, if you need any
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help loading gear, I'll help you out with your guitars.
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Excuse me, I'll tech for you whatever. I just want
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to see the show fucking Death Angels back together. And
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he actually goes, well, we talk. Everyone's in. But Gus Peppa,
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the original guitar player, he was living at the Philippines
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at the time.
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He goes, he gave us our blessing. He can't do it.
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Do you want to do it with us? Nice?
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Twenty five years later.
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That's kind of how it happens sometimes too, like back
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in the day again, going back to back in the day,
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like you always, I rode for like pretty much every
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band just to hang out, to hang.
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Out and just to get into the shows to for
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free and party or whatever exactly.
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But it's so many people I know that were like
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text and they got their break because somebody left the
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band or they were saying, and then they play and
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it's like, holy shit, Yeah, they're good. Yeah, you know,
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and you know, here we are, and I can tell
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that you're still a major fan of Death Angel told
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hus I watch your tiktoks, okay, and there they tell
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me that you're a total Death Angel fan.
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Dude, I'm a fan, man, That's true.
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That's the difference I think between metal bands. And I'm
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not talking about commercial but metal like thrash bands, stuff
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like that. Is every musician pretty much is a fan first,
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fan first, man, exactly, fan first. I still get giddy.
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When we play certain songs. I go, oh shit, dude,
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it's pretty cool, you know, right. I remember when you
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guys played this on this show and this and that.
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You know, how does it feel doing the whole act three?
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It's great?
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Man, that's it's It's my favorite Death Angel record for
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the fact that, I mean, I love all.
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The records I've been on. Don't get me wrong.
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It's just being biased if I say that, I have
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to remove myself from the equation rights.
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It's an album.
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When it came out, it was different, very different, very diverse.
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They were that album. They here's how I look at it.
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Ultra Violence came out. It was all thrash, you know,
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I mean, great album Frolics through the Park came out
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and you could kind of tell the trying.
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To find themselves.
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They were really like pushing the boundaries and pushing the
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envelope per se, like what are we doing here? Then
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when the Act three came out, it was like this
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is our style, Like this is Death Angel. They were
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able to mix. You know, they still had the foundation
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of ultra violence, but they were able to mix like
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stuff like Room of the View, Veila Deception, and you
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had like hard rock songs like the Organization, you have
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this you know, epic tune of like Discontinued. It's a
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well written album, well produced and it just came out
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at a time where I totally relate to it. Yeah,
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goes again to expanding getting better at your craft. And
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like when I saw you guys at the Culture Room,
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because it's different than seeing a f festival. Now you're
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seeing your real show. Yes, and I was like, this
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is fucking killer because it was like doing Act three,
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it was like going to multiple concerts because it's so
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some of the songs are so different yeah.
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That's sort of like variety, you know sometimes, and you
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