Jan. 24, 2025

The Adventures of Pipeman and Bumblefoot... Returns!

This week on Season 19, Episode 4 of The Adventures of Pipeman

Renowned guitarist and composer Ron 'BUMBLEFOOT' Thal is back with a brand-new instrumental album, 'Bumblefoot ...Returns!', set for release on January 24, 2025. Thirty years after his...

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This week on Season 19, Episode 4 of The Adventures of Pipeman

Renowned guitarist and composer Ron 'BUMBLEFOOT' Thal is back with a brand-new instrumental album, 'Bumblefoot ...Returns!', set for release on January 24, 2025. Thirty years after his debut solo instrumental album, BUMBLEFOOT revisits his roots with a 14-track masterpiece that spans genres from metal to orchestral to blues

'Bumblefoot ...Returns!' features collaborations with iconic musicians, including Brian May, Steve Vai, Guthrie Govan, Derek Sherinian, and others, showcasing BUMBLEFOOT’s innovative guitar techniques, such as his signature fretless guitar and "thimble technique."

On the album, BUMBLEFOOT shared:
“It’s been 30 years since releasing the debut 'Adventures of Bumblefoot' on Shrapnel Records, and I haven’t done a fully instrumental album since. Writing during the pandemic, these songs became a soundtrack to my life – from heavy fretless growls to bluesy tributes to legends like Lonnie Johnson. It’s a reflection of the moments that shaped me.”

Ron 'Bumblefoot' Thal is a celebrated guitarist, producer, composer, and educator with a career spanning over 30 years. Known for his groundbreaking techniques, Bumblefoothas performed with bands such as Guns N' Roses, Asia, Sons of Apollo, and Whom Gods Destroy.
Beyond music, Bumblefoot is a philanthropist, hot sauce entrepreneur, and international cultural ambassador, with music featured in TV, film, and video games, including VH1’s That Metal Show.

Take some zany and serious journeys with The Pipeman aka Dean K. Piper, CST on The Adventures of Pipeman also known as Pipeman Radio syndicated globally “Where Who Knows And Anything Goes”.

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Wake up America.

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It's time for the Adventures of Fipe Man.

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This is the pipe Man.

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Here, I'm the Adventures Pipeman W four CY Radio. Super

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excited about our next guest. When I got the email.

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From the publicist and I saw there was going to

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be new music by this amazing musician. I had to

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immediately and he can ask John. I immediately emailed like

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is he doing interviews? And so here we are, Bumblefoot,

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how are you good man?

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Very good?

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Oh man?

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We're happy twenty twenty five.

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I know here we are twenty twenty five badass new

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music that you have. And I want to tell you

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right off the bat what I love most about it

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is two things. One is listening to every song. It's

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not like listening to the same song over and over again.

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They're all different, blending different genres. And I dig that because, like,

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I'm a metal head, but people think outside the metal

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world that we only listen to metal.

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No, metal heads are the most diverse and intelligent and everything,

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no fu right, no doubt, no doubt.

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And then here's the other thing I love. Okay, so.

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You are a shredder that doesn't sound like a shredder,

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and let me define that that goes along with the

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same song over and over again. You see, there's a

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lot of shredders out there that they just play the

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same shred over and.

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Over and over again.

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It's really good, and I hope it's really good if

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you're playing over and over again. But when I listen

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to your I listen to you on guitar, I'm like, yeah,

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it's a really good thing. I quit and playing guitar

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and realized, guy suck is this guy man like he

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could do things I would never even.

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Be able to think of doing on the guitar, Like it's.

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It's amazing even with like let's talk about your fretless

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guitar playing.

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That's that, Yes, let's talk about it.

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I love it.

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I love it, Thank you, thank you very much. So

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there's this company from France, Vigier v ig I e R.

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They were around from nineteen eighty till last year. Patrese,

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the head of the company, has decided to stop making guitars,

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which is a shame because he makes wonderful, wonderful guitars.

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And I've been playing them for God for twenty eight

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years now. I just love what they do. What they

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made you play better when you play on their necks.

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They just feel really good on the hands. And they

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made these metal neck fretless guitars. And I remember we

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started working together in ninety seven and nineteen ninety eight.

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We went to the NAM Show, the big music convention

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together and I saw these. They didn't have double necks

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or anything. This was our own creation, this thing. They

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just listen. I saw it and I was like, why

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did you tell me you made these? Holy shit, look

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at this thing. And I still laugh thinking about the

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look on his face. He just looks up in the

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air and she goes like all frustrated. He's like, in

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eighteen years this company has existed, we've only sold one

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of them. Nobody wants these things.

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Nobody.

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It's like, I do, please give me one, and they

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gave me one. I took it home, immediately started writing

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with it, and it became more and more a part

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of what I do, to the point that I was

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using fretless so much that and I would use it

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in the same song where I'd be switching back and

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forth that I really needed something where I could access

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both quickly, and I thought about retractable threats, thought about

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a flippable dual sided neck that's fretless on the other side,

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like all kinds of ideas, and this just seemed the

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most practical to do that. Plus with it, I can

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even play on two nexts it once if I need to,

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can have two different tunings, which I do a lot.

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I have this one drop date and this one down

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low and yeah, so started making these two thousand and nine,

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and this is my this is my weapon of choice.

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I love it.

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I was playing guitar as a teenager.

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I think I might have kept playing because that was

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the biggest problem I always had. The frets always gotten away.

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I was clumsy with the threats, and then you know,

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you would have that terrible sound when you're not having

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your fingers positioned right.

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you know, people playing slide you have this just and

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if you have a different tuning then you can maybe

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get some more stuff out of it, let's see. But

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with the fretless you can do all the same stuff,

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but you don't have to stay like this, which is

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one finger moving that way.

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Wow.

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You know what I just thought of watching that is like,

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why don't all these blues lap slide guitar players play fretless?

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They should. I guess they don't need to because they

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got their thing down. But it would be great to see.

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And even though this about might dabble in that a

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little bit, songs like Moonshine, Nanny, things like that, a

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little bit of that.

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Yeah, I also love that the first song on Bumblefoot

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Returns is eight minutes and twenty six seconds in twenty.

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Twenty four, twenty twenty five.

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I love it, man, I do find that some bands

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are going back to that. You know, it's like songs now,

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it's so weird. Some of my favorite songs as a

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teenager would never even survive today because the intro.

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Was longer than most people will listen to a track

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on Spotify.

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Yeah. You know, one thing about rock music, metal music

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is that we love bands and we love albums. Yeah,

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where we tend to have I think a longer attention span.

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Yeah exactly.

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And you know, so you have also some cool guests on.

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The album with you.

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Let's talk about each one. Tell us what made you

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pick them for those particular songs.

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I think the songs picked them. That's kind of how

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it went. Like, let's see Guthrie Govan. I was in

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a guitar magazine in August nineteen eighty nine and I

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got a letter in the mail from this kid. I

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was a teenager and from another teenager is like, Hi,

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my name is Guthrie. I live in the UK. I'm

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a guitar player too. Here check out my demo and

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sent a cassette a cassette, and we became pen pals,

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and we would write each other letters, just talking about

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guitar stuff and sending to each other cassettes of our

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demos and little song ideas, and we would write out

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the riffs that we're doing. It's like, here's what I

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did here, put this finger over here, and this one

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that I'm like this, and this like that and for years.

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We've been friends since nineteen eighty nine. So the one

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song that he is on that one, well, I was

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a guest on one of his songs called Rhode Island

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Shred on his first solo album, Me put out back

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in two thousand and six. I had this one riff

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from nineteen eighty nine that I never did anything with

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and it was always just lingering in the back of

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my head somewhere. And when I started working on this album,

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it was twenty twenty. We had a lot of time

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on our hands. It's like, you know what, fuck it,

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let me make another instrumental, all instrumental album. And the

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first thing I did is I grabbed that riff and said,

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let me turn this into a song. Finally, after how long,

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and it was that riff that went So I took

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that riff and just expands it on and turns it

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into a whole song, built it up, and I was like,

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well that's you know, that riff was right around the

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same time that I met Guthrie, and I'm picturing the

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solo section where there's like trade offs of something like

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different rounds of it happening. So he would be perfect

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for it, you know. It's like that moment in time

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that he was a part of, and this riff was

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a part of, and this song was a part of.

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Let's finish it off the way it started, and so

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he laid down solos in that. We traded back and

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forth in that song. The Brian May song, now that one.

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I just had this song and I wrote it and

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at the end of it when there were the sections

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where solos could go, and I just I'm sitting back

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and hearing what this song has become. And it was like,

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this song is just crying out, it's begging, it's pleading

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for Brian May, like his spirit, his sound, what he

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brings to music, like this song would not be complete,

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it would not be it would not be all it

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could be if he wasn't on there. It was like

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the song became this song, and it was just like,

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this is a match for him. Let me ask him,

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and he threw down a solo, the song The Thread.

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I want to mention that before I mentioned the Steve

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Vie song the Thread, I started writing a song. There's

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this well, there is an email thread that I've been

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part of like ten years where a bunch of guitar

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friends were all on it. We just talk about random

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shit whatever. Almost every day we're talking and pretty much

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I have some times, you know, ten times a day,

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just all talking about whatever, random things. And I was

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writing this song and I knew like the melody it

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just sounded it seemed too familiar. It's like, I know,

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I stole this from somewhere and I don't know where.

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I can't place it. I couldn't have come up with

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this melody. It's it's something else and I don't know what.

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So I asked them, I was like, check this out.

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What is this?

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What did I steal this from? And most of the

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guys are like, oh no, no, I mean it sounds

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kind of, you know, like it's been done before, but

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it's not. I don't hear anything exactly. And then someone

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on the thread said oh wait a minute, that kind

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of where the chord's going, the way it ends, the

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last couple of notes of each phrase of it. A

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said Gary Moore song. Huh yeah. I was like, oh shit,

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it is that's what it is, so okay. It was

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the one in Cuisian walkways where he did his kind

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of version of that, and so I back to the

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drawing board. I changed the cores, I changed the melody

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and restructured it and came up with something new. And

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then I showed it to my thread mates and said,

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what do you think of this? Is this I think

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I had And they're like, oh, perfect, it sounds more

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like you, and it's it's hasn't been heard before. It's different,

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it's it's definitely that works. But when the first break comes,

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like he jumping right into crazy shit pacing, you know,

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maybe do something else there and then go to that

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crazy rif. And so really that song was guided by

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my thread mates to become what it came. So I

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named it after him. I called it the Thread, which

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is what we call it the thread, and Steve I

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is on the thread. So when I was making the

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song Monstruso, and I'm picturing all these songs. I'm picturing

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all kinds of stuff in my head. Like it's almost

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like I'm writing soundtracks to things that I'm either experiencing

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or just feeling saying whatever it is. So I was

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picturing like the old sixties seventies Japanese horror movies, the

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monster movies, the old Godzilla movies, wrote damn mall thro

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all of them, and just the sound of like that

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dope step growling keyboard making all those noises Monstrso and

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that's the name of that monster, Monstrouso. And then after

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it like breaks down and it goes into that whole

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kind of clean middle thing and then suddenly kicks back

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in out of nowhere bag and needed it just it

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was calling for something alien like sounds that a guitar

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does not make, Like there's only one guy that can

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do that makes sounds that a guitar cannot make. And

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just so I asked he he was like, you want

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to throw it down, and he's like yeah, So we

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threw down the solo. So it's really it's almost like

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after the songs became what they were, yeah, when it

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was like, all right, there was a match for these

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songs that and I didn't want a lot of guests

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or anything. It kept it down to a minimum on

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these songs that seemed like they could really use that

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cherry on top that only that person give something I

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can't give that only they could in that way. So

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I asked and they did it.

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Yeah, so everything that you gave.

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And one of the songs that I can't remember which

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one it was, but it was so funny because my

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brother and I last night literally were just talking about

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Frampton performing on the Rock Call of Fame and how

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he was like he was so happy because he did

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the you know, the like mouth harp the toilet.

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Yeah, And there was one part of the song and

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I'm sure that you're using your fretless guitar that.

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Immediately when I heard, I was like, wow, he's doing

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it on the.

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Guitar, the Greekstown crossing thing. Yeah. And I was using

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a talk box, the thing where you have that that

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tube to a microphone the guitar into it. It has

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a speaker that just is all encapsulated except for the tube,

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so all the sound gets pushed through the tube into

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your mouth where resonates in your mouth and the microphone

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picks it up. So that's what that's what that is.

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The talk Box then you know all the great stuff

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everything from Wow wow Wow, Living on a Prayer to

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Joe Walsh to of course Frampton uh uh everything. So

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it was that kind of song. And that's the one

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person that that didn't do it is when I made

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that song. That's what I imagined for that song was

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either like Frampton or Joe Walsh.

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Wow and.

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Oh. I did reach out to Joe Walsh and asked

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him if he would lay something down and he heard

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the song and he said that he he felt like

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the song was already done. It didn't need him.

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Wow, that's a huge compliment, right.

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I was like, I was like, well, actually, like this

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solo section, that's that's for you. I was like, when

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someone says no, I'm not going to try and change

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their mind.

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Yeah, yeah, I'm not going to do that.

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If he wasn't doing it, then I'm not going to

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come back and say, well, no it's not done you

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need you know. It's just like thank you for listening,

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you know. And then I did something that that I

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pictured them doing, Frampton or Walsh, that kind of thing,

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and that's what I did. I did the talk box

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with the fretless Wow. Yes, I love it.

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I love it.

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And so the album drops on the twenty fourth of

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this month, January twenty fourth.

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Very cool.

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Where can people where do you recommend people go to

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get the album when it drops?

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Or can they repre save it now or something like that.

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Oh, there are plenty of options. First you go to

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bumblefoot dot com and you can get vinyl, which I

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wanted it to have a ton of art. What I

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loved about Vinyl as a kid is just all the things,

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whether it's a spinning wheel of ZEP three or like

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anything that just it was art. It was something you

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held in your hands and it was interesting. So what

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I did is it's two discs, gatefold our art sleeves

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full images, you know, artwork on both sides of both sleeves.

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But the second disc is a UV art pressing and

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it has artwork on the fourth side, and it's clear

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so aside, like a clear whitish disc with artwork on

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the fourth side. So it has like the speceship and

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all the different things from the album are on there.

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So as you walk listening to side three, you're seeing

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the art from side four and the ships spinning and

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moving and everything on it, and if you just put

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on side for it, you have the artwork directly there

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and all of that. For the CD, it's opens up

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the same thing you have in this pocket CD, and

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in this one is a booklet, but it's not stapled.

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It unfolds it into like a big square. So you

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have the big art there too on one side and

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another picture on the other side. And then you have

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this thing where I haven't opened this yet, but it

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unravels it into like a big long strip of artwork

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on both sides.

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Wow.

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Yeah, this is what we loved about physical stuff. Yeah.

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I always say the kids today, they're messing out, man, kids.

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Yeah.

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I can't believe we've gotten to this point to say

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that too, you know. But like the artwork back then

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is how you decided to buy an album or like

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a set because you couldn't hear it.

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Most of the bands I like didn't play the radio.

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Uh oh.

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Yeah, most of this stuff they didn't play it on

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the radio that I listened to. So you just had

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to take a shot, and usually took a shot by

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you looked at an album cover and I'm like, wow,

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that looks cool.

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We browsed the record store. We saw and Iron made

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an album like this looks a badass. You take it

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home and you're glad you got it, and then you

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go back and you get the rest of it.

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I would sit there with my headphones on and listen

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to the whole album like over.

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And over again, with all the artwork, the lyrics, look

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at everything. It's like a full sensory experience. Not this, yeah,

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let's say a few seconds, okay, next, you know, so

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miss out on so much.

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That's the thing. That's one thing that I wanted to

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do with this release is I wanted it to be

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more more for the senses, more of an experience than

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just putting something on on Shiti Fi.

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You know so.

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I mean it's on there too, It's on anywhere you

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want to stream, you can download it. Two of this's

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on band camp and all of that. But my first

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album was on cassette thirty years ago. I was like,

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fuck it, I'm putting this out on cassette. Hey, listen,

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are the people that still collect these or if someone

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that just wants an interesting old metroal merch item cassette,

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why I.

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Have a retro phonograph here that has not only for albums,

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but for cassettes and CDs, N.

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Does it have a track? I wish man listen.

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I used to listen to Blizzard of Oz on eight track,

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and you would have to first of all, you'd have

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to take the little matchbook and put it underneath or

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else it was really slow. And then mister Crowley would

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like fade out in the second track and then fade

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back in in the third track.

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Oh man, I had two albums on a track that

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I would listen to until they snapped. One was Meetloaf

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Bat Out of Hell and the other one they were

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the opening band for Kiss on the seventy nine Dynasty tour,

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a band called New England. This album, this band was

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so fucking good everybody should go back and check them out.

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And uh yeah, So I after seeing Kiss at Madison

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Square Garden seventy nine, nine years old, next day immediately

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ran to the record store and got New England's album.

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They didn't have it on vinyl. I was so bummed.

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All they had on was a track. I couldn't wait

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another day. I had to have it. So I got

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it on a track and I listened to that thing

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to death. Yeah.

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So my first album I ever owned myself in my life,

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not ones that I stole from my.

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Brothers, because like, that's that was my introduction to music.

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Is my one brother was eleven years older than me,

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So that's how I learned about stuff like out In

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and Cream and all those sixties bands.

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And then I was at.

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Seaside Heights slea Side Yeah, and I can't remember how old. Well,

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I don't know how old I was. I'd have to

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do the math at.

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This point, but I was.

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I played why on the Carnie games and won. And

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the reason I played the game is I saw you

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could win albums, and so I played it. And there

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was one speaking of like the album cover artwork, there

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was one album that stood out to me just because wow,

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those dudes look cool. And it was the original Kiss

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album when it first came out. That was my first

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record album. I'd won it at the board Walk out

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a Carny game.

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That is so cool. So Seaside, Oh, where are your

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Jersey Ice?

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I am, but I'm in Florida now, okay, but so

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check this out.

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I was originally in Jersey till nineteen eighty my father

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moved me to California, and that that was what it

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was so weird because that's what introduced me to the

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real like underground metal, because you know, I was thirteen

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years old hanging out at the Sunset Strip, like walking

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into the Rainbow with Motley Crue to hang out with Lemmy,

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you know.

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And at thirteen and shit, you know, and.

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I went to the first Metallica show ever in LA Area,

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like the first public show ever.

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That is so cool.

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And then I moved back to Jersey for college and

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I was manager of this store on Route nine in

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Old Bridge, Harrows, and I was going to Rutgers and

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so like the Wendy's I used to go to for lunch.

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Bon Jovie used to walk in there.

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But then there was this whole scene in Old Bridge,

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the Old Bridge Militia.

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Yeah, I was about to say, so we so I

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was at both both scenes, so you know, like Mark

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Tornillo and all the techy quick dudes and Prophet and

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Edgar Casey and like that whole crew and Trickster and yeah.

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Yeah and so and then in LA you know, like

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it was funny too because in LA when Metallica left

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and then Slayer left, like me and my bro used

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to hitchhike up to the Bay Area to go to

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the real metal shows.

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We thought they were real in LA till we got

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to the.

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Bay Area and it was like, oh my god, this

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is like went to an Exodus show when Kirk was

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still in the band and it was like, oh my god,

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this is insane. And it's so funny because when Slayer

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first got up there, they were like like Exus and

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the other bands possessing all that. They're like, uh, yeah,

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we don't do that up here. You need to take

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that I makeup off because in the beginning they used

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to have the dark eyel liner to look evil, but

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now that don't play up here. And and you hear

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like the Sligher talk about to this day about how

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they had to take their their eye makeup off, you know.

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And but what they had.

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Nobody to play with anymore in La.

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You know that I saw a striper open for Slag.

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It was the funniest, funniest shit ever, you know. Yeah,

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it's like because there was nobody else.

463
00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:44.839
These bands could play with.

464
00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:47.759
And then Motley Crue they were the first club show

465
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:49.920
I ever went to in my life, you know, Like

466
00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:53.599
you talk about Massive Square Garden, I saw beatle Mania.

467
00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:55.160
Now Mason Square Garden.

468
00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:57.519
I never got to see Kiss there when I was

469
00:28:57.599 --> 00:28:59.799
a kid. I saw them there as an adult.

470
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:02.359
I was so bummed. I always wanted to go but

471
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:03.000
never did.

472
00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:07.799
But yeah, I mean, like, it's so funny because I

473
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:11.359
have both the East Coast the West coast version of

474
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:14.880
everything that happened. And I always laugh when people from

475
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:18.400
Jersey say, yeah, Metallica is from Jersey and like, yeah,

476
00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:22.480
after they were from the Bay Area, after they were from.

477
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:27.279
La Metallic is not from Jersey. Who sends Metallica's from Jersey.

478
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:29.880
A lot of you know, a lot of the old

479
00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:33.720
Bridge militia people, not the people that are the big people,

480
00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:36.920
like the people that weren't that.

481
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:37.920
Much in the scene.

482
00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:40.599
They all like you, I see them at festivals and

483
00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:43.960
they're like, yeah, I remember why I saw the Metallica

484
00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:46.519
when they because they were originally from Jersey.

485
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:50.039
And that's what they say because they did.

486
00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:53.880
If you watch there's a Jerky a documentary I did

487
00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:57.039
an interview and if you check out this documentary, it's

488
00:29:57.079 --> 00:30:00.559
called The Jersey Sound. If you haven't seen it, oh yeah,

489
00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:02.119
So in there it even.

490
00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:02.839
Talks about that.

491
00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:05.880
It talks about that like Jersey was from the I

492
00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:08.319
mean Metallica was from the Bay Area, but they were

493
00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:13.279
also from Jersey only because Johnny Z just you know,

494
00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:15.680
is the only one that record deal.

495
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:17.359
I used to go to Rock and Roll Heaven as

496
00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:19.200
a kid. That's where I would get all my stuff,

497
00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:20.200
like everywhere, right.

498
00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:22.880
Now, see how's this.

499
00:30:24.039 --> 00:30:26.279
Me and my friends used to go in the valley

500
00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:31.440
to this record store called OZ Records, Okay, And there

501
00:30:31.559 --> 00:30:35.559
was a store clerk there that we became friendly with,

502
00:30:35.759 --> 00:30:38.319
and we would go in and he would recommend all

503
00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:40.319
these bands, so it's, oh, you got to check out

504
00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:43.200
this album. First one he showed me was Venom Welcome

505
00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:46.160
to Hell, you know. And then and then he's showing

506
00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:49.960
us Metallica, and he's showing us you know, bitch, and

507
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:54.759
he's showing us like all these la local bands.

508
00:30:56.559 --> 00:30:58.920
He was Brian Slagel.

509
00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:03.599
Yeah, So I went up to him a few years

510
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:07.000
ago like, I'm like, that was the most brilliant marketing

511
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:12.039
move ever because he just started the label while there

512
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:16.640
was a record Clerks Records, and he's like, yeah, I

513
00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:19.279
don't think it was brilliant. It was just I was

514
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:22.559
just a record store clerk, Like he was totally about it.

515
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:25.799
But it was like looking what he built that you know,

516
00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:29.759
you never had, Like, where could metal get signed on

517
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.599
if it weren't for those two people Brian's and.

518
00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:39.240
Yeah, I remember Johnny Z. The first albums he recommended

519
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:42.519
to me. He did Anville Metal.

520
00:31:43.720 --> 00:31:43.880
Uh.

521
00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:47.240
He had all these Australian imports of ac DC, so

522
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:49.599
I would get these like Wow DC albums that would

523
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:55.119
just collect and what Else Angel, which.

524
00:31:56.799 --> 00:31:57.079
That was.

525
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:00.759
What else? What else?

526
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:04.119
You know what the band is playing that hasn't played

527
00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:07.359
in twenty eight years in festivals that I covered this year,

528
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:12.720
Acid Bath. I'm going to remember that name that goes wait,

529
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:16.240
that's like twenty eight years ago. It's like around the

530
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:22.160
time when your first one was, your debut was huh,

531
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:28.759
So you're kind of like in line there. Yeah, so

532
00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:32.000
many cool memories and look at where we are today,

533
00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:37.559
and it's like, it's great that you can come back

534
00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:40.680
make an album like this, and I think it's just

535
00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:43.599
as prevalent today as it was when you did the debut.

536
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:47.119
Cool. I thank you. So one more thing. I'm going

537
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:49.839
to show you this we were supposed to make. We

538
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:54.359
were supposed to release a video game with everything also,

539
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:57.039
and then at the last minute Apple flagged it and

540
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:02.039
for additional review and held it up. So so I'm

541
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:03.839
waiting until they give the okay so that it could

542
00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:06.880
be out there for everybody. But we made a Simon

543
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:08.920
in space. When I say we, I mean this guy

544
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:13.039
named Rady Graubinsky of gloomy Ware Software in Poland, who

545
00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:16.759
has done all this stuff. But check this out. Let

546
00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:18.400
me give this. If I could give this a flip,

547
00:33:18.440 --> 00:33:20.240
will it flip? Is there a way to flip? Or

548
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:21.599
I'm just gonna turn it this way? Say if this

549
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:22.039
will work?

550
00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:24.160
All right, there we go.

551
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:31.640
So it's another way to experience the album, the songs,

552
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:37.519
the music is. There's the little spaceship guy from THEE

553
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:41.279
the thing and it plays the songs. It plays the

554
00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:43.599
music and it's like an old retro.

555
00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:45.319
It looks like ASTs.

556
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:48.640
Yeah, it's like one of those old space shooter games

557
00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:54.200
from ye. Then this thing start shooting at you get

558
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:58.160
the coin and this one you motherfuck up. Hang on,

559
00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:02.160
these guys all right, got them, got them, got them,

560
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:03.839
got them, got them, get them and they're shooting back.

561
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:04.880
All right.

562
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:08.440
Oh, I want that comes out. I'm a gamer, so

563
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:10.159
I definitely want that when it comes out.

564
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:15.760
Yeah. So this thing is a free game that we're

565
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:21.039
putting out there just for fun, just so people can enjoy.

566
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:23.800
Just I want people to have fun with this ship.

567
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:24.280
You know.

568
00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:27.679
It's like I want to have final that's full of art.

569
00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:30.840
We have the technology now to make a video game

570
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:33.400
that goes along with it, So put that out and

571
00:34:33.719 --> 00:34:37.480
just have it be an enjoyable experience for people as

572
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:41.199
many ways as possible. So it's not just the thing

573
00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:44.039
of oh yeah, just put out a piece of music

574
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:47.800
like I shot it out. No, No, remember Weddy put

575
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:50.719
out that album and this and this and this and this, like,

576
00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:52.360
let it be an experienced the way.

577
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:52.800
It used to be.

578
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:57.119
Yeah, if I was a teenager now in those times,

579
00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:01.679
like I would totally get this stuff because of all that,

580
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:04.920
Like I wouldn't even have to know what it sounded

581
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:09.960
like yet, and you usually did so, but it usually

582
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:11.719
came out okay, you know.

583
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:16.079
So that's what counts, and well is it?

584
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:18.920
Can you tell everybody how they can also reach out

585
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:21.639
to you on the web, on socials, on your merch

586
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:23.800
store because you have a killer merch store.

587
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:26.079
Oh thank you. Yeah, that's a good friend of mine.

588
00:35:26.159 --> 00:35:31.119
Jason Leckberg. He made that happen. He's got this company

589
00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:33.039
and he helps. He works with a lot of bands.

590
00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:36.599
It works with Gwar, he works with Steel Panther, and

591
00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:40.400
he does great stuff. He got me organized and functional

592
00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:45.239
and made that web store and the website and everything.

593
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:50.840
So yes, Bumblefoot dot com. So there's all the all

594
00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:56.679
this stuff and merch bundles. And I did a discography section.

595
00:35:56.840 --> 00:36:01.880
It took weeks where I took everything I could recall

596
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:05.519
ever playing on and made a list of like all

597
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:09.159
the guest appearances with links to everybody's music and all

598
00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:11.159
the albums and all the video games and all the

599
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:14.920
TV shows and horror movies and whatever. It is. So

600
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:18.960
a really good discography section, a lot of music and

601
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:22.400
other people's music to check out, Like the produced bisection

602
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:25.719
has a lot of interesting this on there. Yeah, you

603
00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:29.159
got all the merchant there. Now Deco Records Deco Entertainment

604
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:32.480
teamed up with them where they're going to handle all

605
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:35.639
the physical retail stuff. So if you go to Newberry

606
00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:38.079
Comics or MIBA and you say, hey, do you have

607
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:41.159
the Bumblefoot vinyl, they can say no, but I can

608
00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:44.000
get it for you. And thanks to Deco, it's going

609
00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:47.679
to be available and they are I think they have

610
00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:51.199
a partnership with Cargo Records in the UK, so people

611
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:54.920
in the UK and Europe should be able to get

612
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:58.400
it from them. So that's pretty much it. Go to

613
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:02.280
bumblefoot dot com, go to Deco Entertainment dot com and

614
00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:07.480
and you can get a whole lot of bumble stuff. Yeah.

615
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:09.320
Nice it is.

616
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:11.960
I went there and it's like, wow, there is a

617
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:14.599
lot of cool stuff there, pit bulls, and that's the

618
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:17.719
that's the way you have to support artists nowadays. Okay,

619
00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:22.559
it's not like the old days. You know, buy their merch.

620
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:25.719
If they don't buy your merch, they can't watch my show.

621
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:31.480
Well, yeah, it's true. Like these days, it is a

622
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:36.559
direct relationship artists and fans and the artists they made

623
00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:39.639
the music, and if the fans value what they're doing

624
00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:42.199
and like what they're doing, they're going to give their support.

625
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:46.840
And it's this beautiful, just direct symbiotic relationship. It's nice.

626
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:49.840
I'm not a lot of middlemen anymore. Yeah, there you go,

627
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:53.840
and shouldn't have one ever. And you know, you're giving

628
00:37:53.960 --> 00:38:00.559
us such great therapy, not just music therapy that you know.

629
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:02.840
I think it's just in.

630
00:38:03.039 --> 00:38:08.159
Kind symbiotic to you know, support, and it's better off

631
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:10.360
to support directly to the artists.

632
00:38:11.199 --> 00:38:11.639
Very cool.

633
00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:19.800
Well, you rock literally literally this album. This album definitely

634
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:24.840
rocks like it is to me. It's like one of

635
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:28.000
those albums you could just sit there and listen to

636
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:32.280
and escape all your reality and listen to an over

637
00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:36.360
and over again, and it takes you on different journeys,

638
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:37.079
you know.

639
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:38.320
The best way I could.

640
00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:41.519
Describe it out means sound wise, but that same feeling

641
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:43.440
is like dark side of them.

642
00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:47.400
Oh wow, thank you shit, thank you so much.

643
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:51.000
Hey, my pleasure, and thank you for making us great

644
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:55.400
music for man a lifetime. Does that blow your mind

645
00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:55.679
or what?

646
00:38:56.320 --> 00:38:59.880
Oh blows my mind that I'm fifty five years old,

647
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:05.079
and yeah, we're from the same.

648
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:11.000
World, right, kids, eight grandkids like I have eight grandkids.

649
00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:15.719
I have taken my kids and my grandkids into their

650
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:16.719
first mosh pits.

651
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:18.719
Ever, Oh that is so cool?

652
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:19.280
Right?

653
00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:21.440
How old were they?

654
00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:26.280
My son, I'm trying to think how old he was.

655
00:39:26.360 --> 00:39:32.519
He was probably like eight or nine. We were at

656
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:36.599
Tattoo the Earth tour with Metallican Slip Knot.

657
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:38.440
It was at Giant.

658
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:42.760
Stadium and slip Knot was about to come on, and

659
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:45.239
so I explained to him what was going to happen

660
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:48.320
like we were front and center, and I was like, listen,

661
00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:51.960
people are going to start shoving. You don't get mad,

662
00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:57.519
just go with it. It's not about hurting or naming anybody.

663
00:39:57.639 --> 00:40:00.519
It's just about getting all your crap out and having

664
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:05.639
a good time. And so when and when they first

665
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:08.679
came on and it first started, I saw he was

666
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:11.880
getting pissed. First, he was about to like knock somebody out,

667
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:16.400
and I was just like, chill out, relax, just you know,

668
00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:19.440
shove him at next see though, like thirty seconds later,

669
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:23.199
grin ear to ear and like the baton has been passed.

670
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:28.119
And then and then I have a couple of my

671
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:31.360
grandsons that one of them I used to bring to

672
00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:33.599
a lot because I go on tour. I do radio

673
00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:36.639
coverage at a lot of festivals, all the Danny Wimmer

674
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:39.559
festivals in the United States, I go to UK, Europe,

675
00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:44.639
you know, do healthest download Bloodstock, all those and I

676
00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:49.920
would bring him sometimes and he would actually interview bands

677
00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:52.920
with me or they would interview him. But then I

678
00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:56.719
brought him into his first mosh pit. It was August

679
00:40:56.880 --> 00:40:59.599
Burns Red, Like that's pretty heavy duty to go in

680
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:03.199
first time, and he had a blast because all of

681
00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:06.480
the adults and I say this because people have such

682
00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:08.599
a misconception of mash pits.

683
00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:10.079
No, people look out for each other.

684
00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:13.679
Yeah, all the adults were shoving him around like they

685
00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:17.679
were protecting him. They were his wall, and they were

686
00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:20.840
mashing with him, but like in hit and getting down

687
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:26.119
low with him and his level, at his you know ability,

688
00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:30.800
so to speak, their strength, and it's just the experience

689
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:32.280
that you have for a lifetime.

690
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:35.519
My other grandson, he's always now if I bring him

691
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:39.119
to a show, he's like, he's like, oh, can we

692
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:45.079
go up to the front to the pit. So that's

693
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:47.880
some good parenting and grandparenting right there.

694
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:50.719
I think, in my opinion, cool Grandpa.

695
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:53.679
Because listen, we are the coolest grew people.

696
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:55.880
Don't know, they think what they want to think, but

697
00:41:56.000 --> 00:42:00.559
we're one big family. Nobody's an outsider, you know, everybody

698
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:04.840
can just be themselves. There's no bullshit like there is

699
00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:07.800
everywhere else in the world, and we take care of

700
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:13.800
each other and it's just great therapy. Yeah, so well

701
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:16.320
sent thank you for being a big part of that,

702
00:42:16.519 --> 00:42:18.639
and thanks for being on the Adventures of Pipe Man.

703
00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:21.000
Thank you so much. I appreciate you.

704
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:22.800
Thank you my pleasure.

705
00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:28.880
Thank you for listening to the adventures of Pipemin. I'm

706
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:41.800
W for CUI Radio. Hello everybody, it's Roun Bumble foot

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