Aug. 2, 2026

The Hardkiss at Wacken: Genre-Bending Sound, Ukrainian Roots, and the Power of Uniqueness

The Hardkiss at Wacken: Genre-Bending Sound, Ukrainian Roots, and the Power of Uniqueness

In this episode, Pipeman sits down with Val from The Hardkiss at Wacken Open Air to discuss the band's journey, their latest album "Greyhound," the challenges and uniqueness of making music during wartime in Ukraine, and their genre-blending sound. The conversation explores the evolution of The Hardkiss, the importance of originality in music, and the role that culture and adversity play in shaping artistic identity. The episode wraps with insights on resilience, creativity, and how fans can support the band.Main Topics Covered

  • Debut at Wacken Open Air
    • The Hardkiss performing their first full set at the festival (00:34).
    • Reflections on playing an acoustic set in Wacken Church (00:44).
  • The Creative Process & Musical Evolution
    • Comparison between intimate acoustic performances and festival crowds (01:13).
    • The evolution from commercial sounds to heavier, more experimental styles in the new album "Greyhound" (02:31).
  • Blending Genres & Influences
    • Difficulty in categorizing The Hardkiss into a single genre (03:02).
    • The band as a blend of metal, jazz, soul, and rock influences (03:39).
    • Discussion on modern music trends and the importance of finding a unique sound (04:21).
  • Stories of Musical Beginnings
    • How both Val and the other band member started in music and formed The Hardkiss (11:07).
  • Ukrainian Music Scene & Performing During War
    • The impact of the conflict in Ukraine on daily life and the music scene (13:03).
    • Perseverance and courage of Ukrainian artists continuing their craft despite adversity (14:23).
  • Visual Identity & Stage Presence
    • The importance of visuals, music videos, and onstage persona, especially the recurring "grey suit" from the "Greyhound" album (07:46).
  • Fan Engagement & Support
    • The significance of merchandise sales and how fans can support the band (16:01).
Key Discussions & Stories
  • Wacken Experiences
    • Memories of intimate acoustic sets and the unique atmosphere of performing in a church (00:44).
    • Enjoyment of both small, intimate performances and large festival settings (01:31).
  • Unique Sound
    • The Hardkiss's refusal to be pigeonholed into a single music genre.
    • Val discusses the heavier experimentation on "Greyhound" with more guitar and synth influence (02:31).
    • The role of backgrounds: Val's metal influence and the other member’s jazz & soul roots blending to form the band's distinct sound (03:39).
  • Trivia & Music Influences
    • Fun trivia about Dave Mustaine of Megadeth and the jazz influences in classic metal guitar (05:35).
  • Resilience Amid Conflict
    • Ongoing performances and creative projects in Ukraine despite frequent attacks (14:10).
    • TV shows being filmed underground as a symbol of perseverance (14:10).
  • Personal Stories
    • Shared backgrounds, musical upbringings, and the spark that led to forming The Hardkiss (11:07).
    • Navigating the European music scene after success in Ukraine (12:19).
Notable Quotes
  • "You cannot tell what genre is The Hardkiss actually... we're somewhere in the middle of genres, and this album shows that a lot." (03:02)
  • "Life is going on somehow. It's horrible." (15:00)
  • "Keep safe, enjoy your life, and listen to good music. And kiss from The Hardkiss." (17:13)
  • "We are grateful to everyone who supports the right side." (15:50)
Resources & Links Mentioned
  • Official Website:
  • Social Media & Streaming:
    • Instagram, YouTube, TikTok (search "The Hardkiss") for music videos and updates (16:33)
  • Upcoming Tours:
    • European tour dates (November) and upcoming North American and Canadian dates—details on the website (16:46)


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Hi you love Larnt Centru Wow for you you.

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This is the pipemin here on the Adventures pipe Man

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W four c y Radio and I'm here with with

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the Hard Kiss nice here at fucking you reached the

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Holy Ground.

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Yeah, yeah, so incredible.

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Have you ever played this festival before?

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This year? It's the first time we play like the

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Fool the Heart Kiss set, like all together the band

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on the louder stage. Last year I was playing acoustic

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version like acoustics cats or in fucking.

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Church, which is nice, very new for me.

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You know what was that?

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Like?

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Oh my, it was the first time I played in

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church in my life. But you know it was some

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kind of intimacy, like beautiful people around who were silently

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listen carefully to each word I'm saying. So the atmosphere

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was unique. I really enjoyed.

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I love that. See sometimes, right, it's good to have

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that like intimate setting where, yeah, you know, special, everybody's

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so into it opposed to just the sea of people.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's I like both it's different exactly,

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but yeah, sometimes to sing acoustic is special.

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Yeah, Like as an artist, it must feel good to

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kind of change it up sometimes, right, because when you're

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doing the same old time and you get something different

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like that, it's kind of exciting.

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Yeah, but this time we brought to fucking our new

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album Greyhounds. Yeah, please listen to the album and some

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of our old songs, some in Ukrainian language, so we

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will see how the audience will will react. Yeah, maybe

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you can something to add about the sound of our

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new album because it's different for what we've done before.

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That's why why I hear it's like, how is it

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different from what you've done before and what prompted you

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to do it differently?

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Hello?

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Everyone, It's volve from the Heart Cass. I think actually

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this album that we released like recently, well the name

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is the Heart is the Greyhounds. It is different from

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the previous albums just because we had like more experimentation

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and sound like as a heaviness, like we brought like

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heavy guitars, we brought like heavy synth. I would say

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any previous albums. We had some stuff of it, but

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it was i think more commercial and commercial kind of

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point of view. So I'm really really happy how it

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ended up in the in the end, and I'm just

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really kind of wait to present it live.

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You cannot tell what genre is the Heart Kiss. Actually

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we're not. I like that at all, but we're somewhere

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in the middle of genres and this album shows that

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a lot.

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See. I like that though, because I think as an artist,

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you don't want to play the same stuff all the

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time when you're creating new music, and as you evolve

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and get better as a musician, why do you want

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to do the same thing over and over again. I'd

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I mean the heart Cass from the beginning, it was

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an experiment of combining different sounds and different genres. Because

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val he's more of the metal world. I was raised

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on jazz music, soul music. Only when we met, like

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eighteen years ago, I started listening to rock and metal

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and all the stuff that influenced from Vall. And that's

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what you can hear in our music, that combination of

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so different music.

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I love that because like nowadays with metal, there's so

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many genres and subgenres. I find that a lot of

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bands they follow this like formula, like they're doing algebra,

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not music, you know. And it's funny. When I was younger,

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you know, bands didn't sound the same. You know, you

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take the big four Thrash as example, they all sound different.

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But then now if you have a metalcore band, it's

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like every metal core band sounds exactly the same.

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now you have an excess. You're a computer and basically

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everybody's just scorpying the same drums, the same sound of

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the guitars at that time when they've well when the

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Roken metal started, I think everybody trying to find their

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own sounds. Yes, different, It was experimentation. So I've a

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I'm actually you might be better at answering this trivia question.

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But I'm gonna ask a trivia question now.

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Since you're from a jazz background, what is a famous

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metal guitarist that his guitar is basically jazz influenced because

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he was classically trained. And I'll give you a hint.

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If you're you don't know it all, if you just

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look around here, you might figure it out. See this

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is what makes it more fun. Then right, look straight

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in front of you and see if you figure it out. No,

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in front of you looks Mega Death Mustain. If you listen, like,

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listen to Mega Death, it has jazz guitar influencing, especially

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the first album, Killing is My Business. Like, there's a

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whole jazz part throughout throughout it where he's jamming, you know,

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and he was classically trained in jazz guitar initially. Awesome.

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Awesome, I mean, I mean I never thought of So

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that's why it's a good trivia question, right, Yeah, yeah,

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I stumped you, you know.

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So, Yeah, I think it makes sense because I think

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having that jazz influence gives more depth to the music.

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I really feel that I'm singing in more jazz and

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soul manner than in rock metal. I cannot like grow scream.

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It's not my type of singing.

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But you're not like Tatiana.

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No, we're different.

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Were really we really like I already knew that.

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We really liked Ginger and we know each other very well.

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And yeah, we're different. And that's what I like that.

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The music is heavy, but the vocals is melodical, deep

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alto uh. And that's what also makes us unique in

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some way.

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See, and I love that too. And again the uniqueness

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is what I love. Yeah, because listen, there's so many

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bands out there right now. I want the one that

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stands out above the rest. Yeah, and that's you, thank you.

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And we also are trying to make different visuals. It's

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very important for us as well.

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While is the director of all our music videos and

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sometimes the dop so we are making everything in house.

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And yeah, I was thinking what I would like to

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wear on a vucking because like everyone wears like black leather,

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and I decided to wear the gray suits on the

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stage nice the suit that I was in like in

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all music videos. I'm in that suit on the album cover.

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So we have that like gray persona gray like girl

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in the gray suit everywhere in our Rayhound album. And

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I decided that I would like to be different even

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in in my outfits.

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Say, I love that though, because again, why do I

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want to go festival like vaking see the same band

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all day long?

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Of course I'm a bit nervous, you know, because when

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audience is going on fucking like they are expecting like

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special thing, special music. But at the same time last

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year we were on this small, small stage.

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I was outside the outside the Viking. I know, not

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I said the Viking, but inside the Viking, but outside

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the well there's main stage.

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Yeah, and that was guy playing Bungju.

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That's so amazing. I don't.

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That's wild, so amazing. We just stuck there for like

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twenty minutes, was listening to him.

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Yeah. People, Yeah, we're dancing and enjoying not having music

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at all.

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And that's why I think people are gonna love you guys,

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because I don't think they really care. They have enough metal,

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but when you have some uniqueness and some different Like

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we're all music fans, do we only like metal when

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you're a metal head? No, no, no, no exactly. So

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it's kind of cool. Like you're saying, I would stop

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too if I saw somebody playing a banjo at Vadkan,

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I'd be like, oh, I want to check this out.

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That's coolin so, yeah, I think you have the special

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recipe that that crowd is gonna love you here at Vadkan.

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Thank you. We can't wait to play. We can't wait

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to rock that stage louder stages like Big One. It's

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one of the biggest. So it's an honor for us

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and a great opportunity to We understand that maybe audience

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doesn't know us yet, but yever will. We are from Ukraine,

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it's something new. We are new to this audience, so yeah,

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we will keep in touch with them.

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And I support you just because you're from Ukraine because

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what your country is going through, Yeah, it's horrific. What

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my country is going through is kind of horrific too,

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because I'm from the States. Oh oh yeah, you know,

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like I'm so happy to be over here right now,

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you know exactly. And but I love that we have

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bands representing your country, you know, especially during these hard times.

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Yeah, thank you. That means a lot to us.

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Well, thank you for you know, making us great music.

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So what was it? What was it for both of

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you that moment in time in life that you knew

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this was what you wanted to do. Oh wow?

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Like music music or the heart kiss music music. I

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was singing from three years old on the stage. My

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parents are a musicians, so I was. I was into

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this like from my childhood, all these like music festivals,

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like different bands, cover bands, bands like all this stuff

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and weld and me.

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Actually I was playing like guitar and the like synth.

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But I grew up like in uk and I just

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couldn't find the right people actually I think, to play with.

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And then moved back to Ukraine and I met Julia

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and I just asked her, like, do you mind if

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we'll make a band, and she was like, well, let's try.

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Actually she wasn't a different band before, but it didn't

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work out. So our band, I think worked out worked

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pretty well.

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That's very cool.

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We decided that we are given ourselves three years to

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try and to see if it's possible at all in

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Ukraine because we started as English speaking bands in Ukraine,

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which fifteen years ago it was something new for you.

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And plus we were playing like electronic alternative music, which

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was not popular in Ukraine at all. But after third

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single we were like very successful, we become so it's

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it's we had that success in Ukraine. Yeah, so we

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now we're trying from the scratch from the beginning. In Europe.

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It's totally different market, totally different rules, show business rules,

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very harsh, it's new, it's hard, but we will see.

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I think you're gonna do great because listen, you won

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them over because you are unique, you know, and so yeah,

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others weren't doing in Ukraine, but maybe people really wanted

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it and nobody ever knew and you brought it to that.

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Yeah yeah, yeah, that's what we're saying.

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And what is it like for musicians and live shows

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seen that like first days and months like horrible and

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like the evil attacks on Ukraine. But of course I'm

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here and there all the time because my parents live

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stays in Ukraine, and are they over there, yes, yes,

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they live in Kiev. Unfortunately, the attacks on Kiev became

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harder and harder, so yeah, all the time I'm in Kiev,

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there is an attack unfortunately, so I felt it myself

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and it's horrible. But despite that, people are continuing to

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live their lives, to create something, to make business, to

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open the restaurants, to create music, to make like the

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TV shows. I remember we were making like TV show

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in the underground because of the attack, but we still

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made it, you know. So people don't want to pause

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their lives, don't want to stop, and that kind of

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courage that like everyone are everyone in the world, like

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are surprised because like in that kind of life, we're

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supposed to just stop, to be in depression. And of

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course lots of people are in depression now and they

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hurt physically and mentally, and we will deal with that

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like for a long long time after the war will stop.

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So yeah, but life is going on. It's it's horrible

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glad to hear that, surprisely, it's strange.

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But it is what it is. I'm glad to hear

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that though, because that's the strength right there. That's what's

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showing evil like you can't take away from us. Yeah,

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you know. And to me, when you are being attacked

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by that big bully like that and you are standing

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up proud, that's the best thing ever to me because

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we need to stand up to the bully that.

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We would like to say thank you to everyone who

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supports Ukraine right now, because sometimes I hear like different

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opinions on that situation in the world, but still we

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would like to be grateful and we are grateful to

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everyone who supports the right side.

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Yeah, and I definitely support your side, thank you for sure.

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And I certainly support your music. Thank you. So tell

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everybody how they can con with you, how they can

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get the new album, and most importantly, how they can

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buy your merch because they can't listen to my show.

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And let's say buy your merch because more so than

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any other I say that a lot, but more so

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than any other band. I think you need merch support

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more than ever, so you can help support your friends

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and family. Oh yeah, through this hard time.

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Well, we have our site, the heart kiss dot com.

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It's easy where you can buy our vinyls our merch

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and of course please subscribe on our social medias, we

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have interesting Instagram, we have lots of music videos on YouTube,

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TikTok whatever you like. And this autumn we are on

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tour in Europe, so like the whole November, we are

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on the road. So on the heart GISs dot com

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you can watch the schedule and we are on tour

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in North America and Canada yeah as well, so in

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next year. So you can check everything on the heart

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guess dot com home please yeah, we are grateful for that.

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And do you guys have a final words you want

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to leave the listeners.

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With, Oh, just keep safe, enjoy your life and listen

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to good music and kiss from the heart.

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Kiss nice and party on at Vadkins and party on

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on the holiday. That's it. Well, thank you very much

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for being here and giving us great music, and thanks

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for being on the Adventures of Pipe Man.

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Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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For listening to the adventures of Pipelin.

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I'm w for Cui Radio