Aug. 2, 2026
The Other at Wacken Festival: Merging Punk, Metal, and Goth
In this episode of The Adventures of Pipeman on W4CY Radio, Pipeman sits down with Phantom and Rod Usher of The Other at Wacken festival. The conversation dives into The Other's journey to the festival stage, the significance of their band name, horror punk influences, iconic live show memories, upcoming music, and the interplay between punk and metal subcultures. Expect personal stories, some music history trivia, and passionate discussions about legendary bands like The Misfits, Iron Maiden, and Mötley Crüe.Main Topics Covered
- The story behind The Other’s band name and merch challenges
- Getting to play Wacken and what the festival means
- Phantom’s motivation for joining the band
- Upcoming shows, Halloween events, and new releases
- Deep roots and influences: The Misfits, Danzig, Iron Maiden, KISS, and more
- Punk vs. metal: bridging genres and scenes
- Memorable concert stories from the LA Sunset Strip and beyond
- Notable trivia and music history moments
- Rod Usher shares that the name "The Other" is conversation-starting and sometimes confusing for new listeners 00:28.
- The band’s merch can be bought at Wacken or online at theother.de, but shipping to the US is currently tricky due to high costs 01:31.
- Rod Usher recounts how they landed their first Wacken show by directly emailing the event founder 02:12.
- Phantom says joining The Other was partially motivated by a wish to play Wacken: "This has been on my wish list" 03:21.
- Annual Halloween show is their highlight 04:15.
- Planning a double headliner tour in Europe with a former Misfits musician; new album coming soon 04:23.
- Compilation album "Other Dimensions" releasing October 30th, featuring originals and covers 09:57.
- Plans for a new album with hopes for a Halloween release next year, plus top 10 album chart success 24:05.
- Rod Usher and Phantom reflect on how The Misfits, Danzig, Typo Negative, The Damned, AFI, and others shaped their style 04:50, 24:45.
- Discussion of The Misfits’ impact on both music and the punk/metal crossover 06:25.
- Favorite Misfits songs: "Skulls" (Rod Usher), "Dig Up Her Bones" (Phantom), and "TV Casualty" (Pipe Man) 07:58-08:27.
- Panel discusses how punk and metal scenes used to clash, only to blend later — with stories from LA and legendary bands like Metallica, Slayer, Suicidal Tendencies, DRI, and Possessed 11:04-14:14.
- Rod Usher: “Our second show ever was supporting DRI.” 12:29
- Pipeman recounts seeing Mötley Crüe as a horror punk band before their glam transformation, hanging out with Mick Mars and Lemmy at 13, and his first ever concert (Beatlemania at Madison Square Garden) 16:06-18:15.
- Phantom shares his first live show: an Iron Maiden tribute featuring Helloween’s drummer 18:57.
- KISS influence: first album owned by Pipeman, tattoos by Rod Usher 21:05.
- Rod Usher: “Once you’re part of the Wacken family, it is an awesome community.” 02:45
- Phantom: “One of the reasons why I joined is I wanted to play Wacken. It’s always been on my wish list.” 03:21
- Pipeman: “If they don’t buy your merch, they can’t listen to my show.” 01:11
- Rod Usher on beginnings: “We started as a Misfits cover band for fun… then we just slipped our originals in, and people didn’t notice — they thought it was a Misfits song.” 09:13
- Pipeman on punk/metal unity: “Band together, morons, instead of fighting each other.” 11:30
- Rod Usher: “If you like The Misfits, Danzig, Typo, AFI… you’ll probably like us.” 24:45
- The Other Merch & Band Info: theother.de
- Upcoming album: "Other Dimensions," releasing October 30th
- Socials and general band connections found via official website
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and I'm here.
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With Ventum from the other rud Usher from the other.
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I wonder how many people listening are saying to themselves,
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especially in the States, because they could kind of be
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like this the other what but that's what's great about
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your band name? Like it does cause people to start
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a conversation. Do you find that.
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Strange that you say that because the first time somebody
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said that, But that's good. We got to think about
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this and come up with an answer that we can
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just answer every time somebody says that.
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Kind of like when we were ellying each other. Right,
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and okay, I'm big about merch. I love your shirt,
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okay very much. It's so freaking cool. And I have
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to tell people. I'm going to say right off the bat,
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if they don't buy your merch, they can't listen to
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my show. So let's start there and tell them how
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they buy your merch, because otherwise you don't get to
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the next gig. I don't think people really realize that.
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Well here at fucking obviously our shirts are at the
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merchandise stalls, so that's probably the best bet. But otherwise,
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of course we saw them online in our store. Shipping
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to the States is a problem right now.
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I imagine.
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So we get a lot of requests and everybody's like,
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way too expensive due to the texts and customs and
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all kinds of stuff. It used to be a much
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easier so but yeah, it's the other. You'll find it
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on our website.
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The other. There's links everywhere.
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Nice. So what was the road you took to get
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the VAK in and out? Mean the road you drove on? Well,
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this is our fourth time that we're playing Bucking. That's cool.
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This is my first time, but I'm not playing.
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First time was in twenty ten and that was That's
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a story that I've been telling a lot in the
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last couple of days when I was drunk, because yeah,
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I just sent an email back then to Holgahutna, the founder,
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one of the two founders, and I said, hey, we're
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this and now we just signed to steam Hammer SPV.
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And I told him who we are and he just
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answers like, okay, yeah, you're wrong, and this is the
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fee you're getting. I'm like, that fee doesn't even cover
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our gas costs. And he said take it or leave it,
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and I answered, take take, take right.
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But the good thing is once you're.
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Part of the family here, of the fucking family, and
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it is an awesome community. You know, you always get
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invited back, and we can always come as guests too,
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and we love to hang out every year and party here.
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See I love that, and of course party on at Vadkan,
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party on totally.
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It's uh then's first time.
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Actually, oh yeah, I'm a virgin too.
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So I joined the band two years ago, two kind
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of two years ago. And one of the things, or
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one of the reasons, uh why I did, is I
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wanted to play Vackan. This has been on my list.
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You know, I've been living as a musician. I'm not
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saying the word professional because that's but yeah, for for
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years and that's it's always been on my my wish
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list to play vaking And so yeah, it's it's a
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great pleasure to be here. It's awesome already and it
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hasn't even started yet.
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So so you basically placed an ad that said, do
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you want to play Vakan join our band?
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Yeah, that's that's how when well, we have common friends
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and he he introduced us. But I'm a little afraid
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when he says that that's that's on his bucket list.
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I hope he doesn't quit the band after today.
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Now you have to come back every year and play
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or else he's not staying with the band.
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Right, Yeah, Well, we have other good things coming up,
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so I want to.
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Hear about those other good things. Tell us about those others.
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We play our annual Halloween show, of course, you know where.
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We're a scary band and Halloween is our biggest highlight
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of the year.
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But next year we're gonna hopefully do a tour with.
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An ex musician of the Misfits, and we do like
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a double headliner tour in Europe.
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Stuff like that. We have a new album coming out, and.
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Is it a secret? Is it a secret? Who it is?
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Like if I mentioned the initials, could you say yes
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or no?
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Please?
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Please do?
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But uh, it's not Glenn Danzig.
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I didn't think so, and I didn't want it to be.
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We did, however, open forensic ones and a lot of
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signs for the Misfits, the Jerry only Misfits.
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So yeah, so is it MG no, Okay?
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I interviewed him actually recently, but I'll tell you interesting.
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So I'm a Jersey boy, so I'm from where they're from. Yeah, okay,
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but where I lived in West Palm Beach, Florida before
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they went back to the original Misfits and they were
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just Jerry's band. They used to play this block party
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in downtown West Palm Beach every Halloween outside and every
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single time it was beautiful weather until they struck the
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first chord and it would start.
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Raining every time.
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Every time. Every time, it was like, yeah, it must
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be them awesome, but yeah, like man, they are like
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one of the legends. And I was so excited when
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they did the original Misfits and got that back together.
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You know, it's funny. I've interviewed Doyle and when you
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meet him in real life, it's not who you imagine.
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He's a very calm, low key, low voice person, and
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like I kept having to get him to speak up
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during the interview, but then he gets up on stage
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and he's like this monster. Yeah it's unbelievable, you know.
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Yeah it is.
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Uh. And I've seen the Misfits in the nineties a
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few times. Love that lineup before Michael Grace went totally crazy. Yeah,
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but we're of course we're very influenced by the Misfits
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and Samain and down Zig, So yeah.
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Yet to me, and not offense to him because you like,
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you know, I talked to him and he was a
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really nice guy. But to me, the Misfits were damn sick.
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Sure, like wish we would see the original lineup here,
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but they don't come over. I think I think their
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fee is so high. Probably you can only justify that
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by playing stadiums in the States. While up everybody knows
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the Misfits, but they will probably not fill a stadium
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over here.
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Yeah, that makes sense because like they play festivals over.
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There and Midfest. I wish I would have gone there.
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I was there. Wow, I was there. Oh my god,
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it was I was in their pit, like right up,
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I was like right in front Doyle in the pit, okay,
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and it was. It was. It was pretty freaking cool.
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Another fucking moment was Vendanzig played here the last time
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and Doyle joined him on stage and nice a few
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Misfits song that was like the the start up probably yeah,
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and that we saw that here and that was an
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incredible moment. Saw that here in that Telpfest and I
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had tears in my eyes when Doyle came up and
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they played the classics.
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That was really great.
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So here we'll ask you both the question your favorite
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Misfits song.
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Different for both of us.
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I guess I will always answer with skults. That's a
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great one.
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Dig Up her Bones probably that's a.
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Great one too. So fine, you said skulls. So I
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used to date this hardcore punk singer. She was a female,
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but she used to sing skulls and they're great. You'll
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never guess what my favorite one is. This will show
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you that I'm a true Misfits fan.
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And okay, I'll start in the doorway.
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No, you gotta guess Hella. No, maybe TV Casualty.
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Oh, that's an awesome song.
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But nobody would ever really guess that, you know, because
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people would think I die, my darling, dig up your bones, skulls,
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all that, but that one, like, I could play that
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over and over again.
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Well, that first album and sthetic age is my favorite,
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even though my favorite song isn't on it, but it's
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my favorite it is, so yeah, totally, So that's a
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great pick.
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There you go. So what was it in life that
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made you side? This is what you wanted to do,
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and you both have different answers to this.
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The band was founded actually as a fun side project
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of a death grindcore band I was in at the time,
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playing guitar, and everything was so serious, and we said,
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let's do a Misfits cover band, just for fun, and
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that that just took off, and then we said, okay,
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we'll write. We'll try it writing one of our original
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song and we just slipped it into the set right
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next to all the Misfits covers and either people didn't
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notice that and people thought it was a Misfit song,
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and we said, this works kind of well, and then
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we started just doing our own stuff and yeah, now
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we hear and releasing our tenth album in October.
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Amazing, what day on October? I'm asking for a reason
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because I'm on to find out it's on my birthday.
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It's the thirtieth, the day before Halloween.
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There you go.
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It's it's a compilation.
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It's three new original songs, a few cover songs by
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Brett Legend, the Damned German Band and stuff, and some
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love tracks.
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We toured with them in two thousand and seven and
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I seized every opportunity to talk to Dave Vanian and
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just suck up all the info that he could give
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me about singing, and he told me tales about his
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time when he was about to join the Misfits. Well
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he was asked to join the Misfits. He did not, obviously,
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but that was it was. It was great.
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Yeah, And like I said, you know, I joined the
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band two years ago. I got introduced by a friend.
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I grew up as a guitar player with like you're
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wearing a Megadeth shirt right now. It's one of my
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favorite bands, and Iron Maiden and stuff like that.
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But I also grew up.
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On punk and skate punk goth as well, and this
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band is the perfect fusion to assemble all of these
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things like metal, guff and punk.
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See. I love that because I'm both a metal head
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when I first got into the whole scene. Like I
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was a long hair If I went to a punk show,
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I got my ass kicked, and if a punk came
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to a metal show, they got their ass kick. That
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was just the stupid as shit. Ever, like we were
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both similar types of music, we were both getting bullied
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by the jocks in school band together morons instead of
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fighting each other. And I'll tell you a funny story
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about that. So there's this place in Hollywood on Melrose
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called Posers, which is where you got your spikes, but
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only if you were a punk. I wanted to go
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there because that was the place to get all your
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spikes and stuff. So I recruited two of my punk
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friends because they knew the owners, and I'm like, hey,
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bring me there so I don't get my ass kicked,
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you know, And they brought me. I was in there
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for twenty seconds and my friend walks up to me.
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He's like, we got to leave. I'm like, you mean,
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I'll tell you outside. We got to leave now the
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godside he goes, because we know the are owners. They
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gave us a courtesy and told and told me I
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had to get you out a store before they kicked
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your Ass's that's that's so crazy, especially because Glenn's got
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long hair now, right, you know. And Dri Dri was
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one of the first ones to grow to their hair out,
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you know.
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And our our second show ever was supporting Dri Nice.
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They're one of my favorites ever. Really, that first album,
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I'm not dealing with it the first album.
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Oh my god, that was insane. Well, I'm more of
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the metal dri thresh.
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old school thrash metal head. I went to Metallica's first
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