Nov. 7, 2024

The Tragically Hips Rob Baker Discusses 40th Anniversary, New Box Set & Amazon Prime Documentary

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Rob Baker from The Tragically Hip to discuss the new box set, Amazon Prime documentary and bands 40th anniversary

‘THE TRAGICALLY HIP: NO DRESS REHEARSAL’ RELEASED ON PRIME VIDEO GLOBALLY ON SEPTEMBER 20

2024 MARKS 40 YEARS OF THE TRAGICALLY HIP, A MILESTONE YEAR HONOURING FOUR DECADES OF MUSIC, FRIENDSHIP AND PHILANTHROPY

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light Man.

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No dress rehearsal.

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This is our life.

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That's what you gotta do. You gotta make the most

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of it.

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Taxed in Ontario, Canada. My friends that tragically.

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If any of us were in another bed, I don't

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think we'd be able to do it because we wouldn't

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be in another bed with our friends.

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Crowds would get so loud that you couldn't hear anything happening.

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On stage.

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They put on a monster show. They were loud and

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tight and forceful, and Gore was mesmerizing. Made it cool to.

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Be a Canadian. I feel silly being sort of emotional

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about it.

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The songs that we wrote better a lot to people.

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It came at its cost thirty years. Relationships can get strained.

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We probably should have had some therapy. Think at that

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point we probably needed it. We knew there were problems.

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There was anger and frustration and resentment, and then Gore

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got his diagnosis.

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First we'd come frame cancer and it was incurable, the worst.

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Of the worst memories, which used to be my fortee

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and now I can't remember people's names and can't remember lyrics.

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What he's planning to do next is nothing short of

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awe inspiring. He got together and started to rehearse, to

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write an end to our own story.

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People can't mountain.

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They showed their appreciation, gave gored their love, and it helped.

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Him and.

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I swear as we progressed, he got better and it

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was unbelievable, and by the end of the tour he

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felt like old gorn.

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Multiple generations of Canadians decided to tragically Hip for our.

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Band, they will define for generations to come the music

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that exemplifies this country.

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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe

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Man w four c Y Radio. And I'm very excited

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about our next guest because we got a lot to

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talk about. It's very exciting. So let's welcome to the show.

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Rob Baker from the tragically Hip.

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How are you?

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I'm pretty good, good to be here, good to have you,

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and wow.

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Does it kind of blow your mind as we're gonna

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be talking about your fortieth anniversary here?

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Yeah? Yeah, I was four years old when we made

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the first record.

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Wow, it's just amazing that, like how many bands nowadays

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that you think wouldn't have survived through all of the

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you know, the era of rock and roll that we

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were in, to be still around forty years later. I

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was just at a live show the other day. They

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were celebrating their fortieth anniversary. It just kind of it

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kind of blows my mind. We didn't even think we'd be.

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Here for forty years from then.

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I remember my dad telling me the Beatles. He said, yeah, yeah,

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they're hot now, but in ten years, will anyone know

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their music? Will anyone sing their songs?

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Wow? Yeah, well he was pretty wrong.

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I know, right even you know, it's interesting too because

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like when my first entries to music was the Beatles,

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it seems like every generation that is like their entry

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into music.

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Yeah, I think that's a good thing.

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When my son was really young, I made him cassette

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tapes and he had a little player that he could

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control his own music and listen to what he wanted.

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But I kind of curated for him, and it was

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you know, he'd have a tape of the Beatles, he'd

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have a tape of Bob Marley, he'd have a tape

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of you know, African African rock, dance music, whatever, just

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things that because I didn't want him listening to kids music.

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For God's sake.

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Oh, I hear good quality music. There's lots of great

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music that anyone can love, and it's a foundation that

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you can build on. The Beatles are a good foundation.

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Yeah, you know. So it's interesting to me.

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So how I originally found out about the Beatles was

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and some we had to do some oral presentation and

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some kid in the class did on the Beatles and

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it made me really interesting. Then I found out about

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that nineteen sixty nine radio show with talking about Paul

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McCartney being dead. So I started buying all the albums

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to get all all the hints and check out all

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the stuff.

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For it to figure out if he really was alive

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or not.

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Say them backwards, no doubt, right, you know.

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So it's interesting.

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We kind of do live in different times now that

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I think a lot of newer music is more simplistic

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now than it was then. I think I think the

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key was is because you didn't have a lot of

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these different types of music that are artists. Musicians could

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experiment back then, like the Beatles were the kings of experimentation.

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Yeah, everything's moved more and more into silos. You know,

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if you'd in the sixties and seventies, if you liked

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rock music, you'd go see, you know whatever, the amboy

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Dukes and you go see the rascals, and you go

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see the Mamas and the puppas or whatever it was.

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I like rock music, and it's a broad term.

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Yes.

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By nineteen eighty, it's the early eighties, it's like, well,

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I like this type of rock music. It's down into

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little sub genres, and since then it's even more subgenres,

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to the point that no one can keep track of

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any of it anymore. No, ultimately, I just I always

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just liked music. And it's not just rock music. I

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like rock blues, and I like swing music, and I

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like straight up jazz, and I like African music, whatever

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it is.

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I like good music.

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I don't even understand how people can like one super

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specific type of music and that's it. Like, do I

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have my favorites, Yes, But it also depends on your

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mood too, and what you're doing or what have you.

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Sometimes you're in the mood for one time type of music,

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sometimes something else. It all depends, and I think I

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think it just makes you more well rounded when you're

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open to a lot more different types of art and music.

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Yeah, music is music is a friend and a gift

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to us that you know, it can be a teacher,

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it can console you or relax you, it can commiserate

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with you. It's you know, it's there for you in

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good times, in bad times. You celebrate with it, and

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you you know, you cry the blues with it. It's

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there for a lot of different reasons. And if you

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only had one type of music, it's like only having

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one friend.

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Yeah, right, one friend.

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One thing that you ever do with that friend, you know,

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because it's so concise now to your point, you know.

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And I find that even when in the eighties when

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they started like separating people within the rock genre, like

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even in those separations, they didn't sound the same. They

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sounded different. Now it's almost like an algebraic equation sometimes,

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you know. I remember I first started playing guitar and

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my dad was listening to me. He's like, man, you

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should give that up because you suck. And what I

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was really doing is I really didn't know what I

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was doing, so I was experimenting. I wanted to see

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what sounds I can make the guitar have, because if

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you think of all the great guitarists, probably including yourself,

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like that's how you found your unique sound as a musician.

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Yeah, you play, you experiment and hopefully you know, if

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the consensus is that you suck, then maybe do something else.

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But fortunately my parents never said that. They're pretty They're

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pretty indulgent. And you know, I still have the guitars

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they got me for you know, an acoustic guitar they

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got me when I was thirteen, wow, for my twelfth birthday.

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And an electric guitar they got me for my thirteenth birthday.

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Wow.

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An electric guitar my dad took me out to get

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for my thirteenth birthday. Was at every single show they

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had played. I played that guitar every show.

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Wow.

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I was going to ask about that. So that is

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way cool. I love that and it's kind of like,

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how does it make you feel now to play that guitar? Nowadays?

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I love it.

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I only pull it out for special things. At a

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certain point, it was my main guitar that I did

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everything on for about the first five or six years,

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and then it became an open ee guitar for me,

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and I played lots of songs through the years in

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open ees, so I'd play it on, you know, half

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a dozen songs every night. But it's one of the

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sweetest sounding guitars I've ever had. I got a lot

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of guitars here. I'm looking around the room and i

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can just within eyesight there twenty plus guitars in this room.

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So nice and it's here, so.

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You probably you get to a point where you like,

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like you collect them in the sense of that you

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love the guitar so much that when you see one

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that really is cool, and then you play.

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It a little bit and you have a feel for it,

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it's like, well, I have to have that one too.

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Yeah, sometimes, you know. I walked into a local guitar

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store in Kingston and the guy said, you got to

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check this out. It's a nineteen twenty nine Dobro guitar.

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And I was like, I'm not checking it out.

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I'm not.

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He said, oh, you should, just like just check it

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out field, just hold it in your hands. I was like,

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I'm not going to do it.

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I walked around for about twenty minutes and I said, okay,

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give me a slide and I sat down. I played

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about two notes on it, and I was like, okay,

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how much? But every guitar does something a little bit different,

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you know, in theory, they're all the same, you could.

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You know.

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I'm looking at a rack here ahead in front of

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me of like seven strats, and each one is different.

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And if I was recording a song, and I would

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like it needs that one.

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Yeah. See. And that's the truth to me. That's a

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true guitarist right there.

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Because somebody that's trying to make and play guitar but

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maybe isn't true guitarist can't tell the difference, you know,

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either the sound or to feel.

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I think many times we try and impose ourselves on

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the music. You try and shape the music to what

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you wanted to do and this is what I want

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to sound like. And I think that for all of

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us in the band, it was you let the song

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tell you what it wants to do. Yes, you were

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there to serve the song, and it'll tell you what song,

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what sound it needs, and it'll tell you where to

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play and when not to play.

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I love it. That's so true. Like that to me,

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that's the difference.

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That that's the difference between somebody that plays guitar and

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somebody that is a guitarist, or somebody that plays a

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drum and is a drummer, or any you take, any

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musical instrument, including the vocals. Like, to me, that's the difference.

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So I love that explanation there. So let's talk about

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this Amazon Prime documentary as way way cool. UH, tell

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us a little bit about that.

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Uh.

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Mike Downey, who is Gordon Downey's older brother, came to us,

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and we had known Mike since before the band days, UH,

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and he had done a previous documentary for us, documenting

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a tour roadside attraction tour that we had done in

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the early nineties, and he came and said, I want

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to do a documentary. I think it's time that you

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guys did one. And I don't think he had any

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idea that it was going to be four parts or

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on Amazon. It was still pretty amorphous at that time,

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but we agreed to do it, gave him full access

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to our archives, and we agreed to sit down and

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do interviews, which were going to be kind of far

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ranging interviews. It ended up being about fifteen hours for

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each of us over three days of five hours at

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a time, covering different parts of our career, and we

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just said, if we're going to do this, it's got

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to be honest. We don't want to do a fluff

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piece about the band. We don't want to it's not

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a promo piece because we don't really have anything to sell.

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I guess we do, maybe, but that's never been our

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primary objective.

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So we just thought.

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We got into these conversations with them, and one at

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a time. He took us all individually, and although there

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are cameras set up in their lights, very quickly all

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that stuff falls away and you're just in conversation with someone. Yeah,

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he's asking you a question, you're answering as honestly as

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you can, and that leads the conversation. You just carry

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on and it's only later when you see it being

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edited into something that's telling the story and you're thinking, wow,

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I really just kind of let the whole world in

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on this conversation we're having, and some of it was

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kind of vulnerable and personal, and.

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But that's the way it had to be.

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Yeah, there's no point in doing it if you're not

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going to do that it's just otherwise, it's just a

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fluff piece promo.

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No doubt.

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We don't need more promo, No, after forty years, I

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should hope not, especially when you're great musicians like yourself.

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And now you even have this new box set. So

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that's pretty cool too. So there's so much going on

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for his fortieth anniversary.

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I love it.

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What are some great reasons for people to get the

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box set? Opposed to somebody saying, well, I ready have

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all of that, why do they want the box set?

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Well, if you're a fan of this album, and it

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certainly sold well in Canada and did okay in a

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couple of European countries. I'm not sure how well it

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did in the States. But if you're a fan of

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the record, you'll hear it more clearly than you've ever

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heard it. You know, mastering techniques are better than they've

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ever been. The atmost that comes with it, if you're

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into atmost, it really does put you in the room

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with a you know, you can almost see exactly where

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everyone's standing or hearing the music in the space that

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the music is being made in. Nice, So you've got

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all that going on. There's a live album that goes

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with the set that comes from the same time period,

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same six month period around that record, and there's a

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DVD with that or Blu ray and we're all serious

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hair farmers in the video. It's ridiculous how much hair there.

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Is on stage right. And then there's a full album

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of other songs.

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Some songs were cut specifically for the album in Memphis

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while we are making the record, and because of reasons

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of length or sequencing, they didn't end up on the record.

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One of them was my favorite song from the whole session,

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didn't make the record, Wow, and it's out now. So

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that used to happen to me a lot. My favorite

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Why is it always my favorite song?

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Games? So there's that.

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And at the time they were also demoing. We had

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been demoing for eight months for Capitol Records, and after

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eight months we had a ton of good songs and

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we were ready to make a record, and they were

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very noncommittal, and all of a sudden, this guy shows

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up from mca Usa, from the La Branch, and he

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wants to sign the band to a seven record deal,

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and he said, let's go, let's do it, and he

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sent us to Memphis to make the record and away

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we went. But as a result of that all that demoing,

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those demos were available to us, and some of the

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songs from the demos, there are one or two that

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I think beat the versions on the final.

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Albums of the original album.

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To get those demos are fans of the band at

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that point in our career. I think it's really informative. Yeah,

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I hope it turns on a few new people too,

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but I don't know.

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I'm sure, well, because in my opinion it's badass. And

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you know it's available November eighth, the box set, And

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so how do we tell people to get the box

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set to Obviously they can search for you know, no

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dress rehearsal on Amazon Prime, and how they can just

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connect to you guys in general.

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Yeah, Well, the hip dot com is our site and

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you can find it all kinds of stuff on there.

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Poster dealers connect you with a poster community or the

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box set. There's a coffee table book, there's the Amazon documentary.

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There's yeah, there's all kinds of stuff. There's a merch store.

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But if you just want to know about the band,

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the history of the band, individuals, solo projects, it's all

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available on tip dot com love it.

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And I also love the fact that your document documentary

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was the first in history for the Toronto International Film

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Festival to win the People's Choice Awards. So that's that's

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that's a pretty great honor right there. And then and

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then also at the Calgary International Film Festival, you won

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the twenty fifth Anniversary Award for Top Overall Score.

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So that's pretty cool.

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That's amazing. Yeah, we've been doing the film festival circuit.

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I really didn't see that in our current.

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Right, right when you first started even playing guitar, did

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you even think that you would be in the you know,

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the film festival circuit.

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Yea, And here I am walking down the red carpet.

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Oh yeah, I was really never part of the blood.

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It's a you know, it's interesting. You take it in stride,

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you take it all with a grain of salt, and

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enjoy it while it's here.

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Absolutely well, it sounds like you totally enjoy it, which

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is what makes you a great musician. You know, to me,

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how could you even be a great musician if you

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don't totally love it, Because besides that part of it,

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there's a lot of stuff why you wouldn't like being

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a musician, so you might as well love the reason

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you are one.

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Yeah.

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Well, I got into it because I was a fan,

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and we all got into it because we were music fans.

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And it's easy for that to slip away from you

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while you're doing it, when it becomes a job and

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you're having to slog away at it. We just remind

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ourselves and each other regularly remember why we got in

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it's because we're fans. So I'm still a fan. I

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have a show on Serious XM that is nice once

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a week, and that means that I have to be

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scouring the internet looking for music all the time, new music,

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old music, and it's free form radio.

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I can play.

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I can play an Eddie Lang recording from nineteen twenty

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back to back with a radio Head song. It makes

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no difference.

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I love it free form, so.

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I get to do what I want and talk about

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music in terms that makes sense to me and I

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hope it makes sense to other people. But it means

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that I have to stay engaged in music, So I'm

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out in the stores regularly on a weekly basis, and

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I'm scouring the internet looking for new music all the

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time and going to shows.

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See I love that you know, because I find it's

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also most iconic musicians like yourself that are still around

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after all this time. That's the common denominator. No matter

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what genre they're in, they're still fans of music, and

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that's the key.

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So I love it.

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Yeah, you gotta be what are you doing if you're not.

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Exactly, no doubt you know, and listen.

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You gotta have passion because because people can tell, Like

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if I'm at a show, I can tell if you're

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going through the motions or if you're just up up

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there having the best time of your life. And when

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you guys are up there having the best time of

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your life, I'm like, man.

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That is so cool.

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I know it goes where I saw someone checking their

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watch on stage. It's like, jeez, right, I don't want

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to hear either.

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No, no, exactly.

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Well, we thank you for giving us all this great

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music for all these years, and now this cool box

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the documentary.

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There's so much going on. I love it. And thanks

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a lot for being on the Adventures of Pipe Man.

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It's been a real pleasure.

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I enjoyed it. Same here ditto. Hope we can do

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it again. Thanks, thank you for listening to the Adventures

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of pipe Man on w for Cui Radio