Oct. 2, 2025

Wrongful Murder Conviction of Peter Wilson

Wrongful Murder Conviction of Peter Wilson

Season 19, Episode 65 of The Adventures of Pipeman. Tune in at 1PM ET 10/01/25 to W4CY Radio at w4cy.com. Imagine waking up one day and losing everything all because a rogue cop has illegally searched and seized your belongings, came up on 400k, and...

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Season 19

Season 19, Episode 65 of The Adventures of Pipeman. Tune in at 1PM ET 10/01/25 to W4CY Radio at w4cy.com.

Imagine waking up one day and losing everything all because a rogue cop has illegally searched and seized your belongings, came up on 400k, and has the perfect position to frame you for a murder you didn't commit so he can keep the money. March 31st, 1996 is a day Mr. Wilson will never forget. This is the day he lost his education, career, home, money, and eventually his freedom to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Join us to hear the gruesome details and the forensics he hopes to set him free with a Writ of Habeas Corpus. 

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Wow, crazy young Wake of America.

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It's time for the Adventures of Pipe Man on W

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Here's your host, the vipe Man.

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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe

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Man W four C Y Radio. And Man, this is

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a very special live show because it's one of my

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favorite subjects. It's people that are criminals and people that

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people think are criminals they are not criminals. That's a

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bigger part for me, to be honest, because there are

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way too many innocent people in jail, in prison. Uh

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and then like it's like sometimes after thirty years they're like, oh,

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we just figured out it wasn't really you. Sorry. Here's

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ten bucks to get a bus ticket and enjoy your life.

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And I think that's one of the problems right there,

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you know. But we have some solutions because we have

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one of the most renowned experts of our network in

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true crime, the infamous legendary Nanette Barto. How are you.

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I'm doing well?

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Thank you?

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How about yourself?

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Good? I didn't even write that speech down. It just

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all came to me right as.

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I was talking right off the tongue.

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Yeah, I mean because it's true though, like listen, I

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talked to you off the air, like Jesus Christ. She

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knows way too much about this stuff. But that's a

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good thing, because there's too many people there that don't

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know way too much. But this is a special episode

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because normally you talk about the Zodiac Killer. Yes, who

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may or may not be a friend of mine. I can't.

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I cannot confirm nor deny, but in case he's listening,

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I'm a friend, I just say it so. But this

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is something that's near and dear to my heart because

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Nanette is going to stand up for somebody who doesn't

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deserve to be where they are, and we're going to

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find out why. So take it away, Nanette.

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Well, I was contacted about two and a half years

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ago by a client who wanted me to look at

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some handwriting and determine whether or not a particular person

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had written an entry in an evidence log. And of

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course he was questioning the officer that had arrested him

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in a murder case. So I'm going to back it

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up to where he was and what has happened, and

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then we can discuss the evidence as it unfolds Somewhere

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at the end of February, my client had sold a

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very expensive piece of art for about three hundred thousand dollars.

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He had been a renter of a room of the victim,

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hawkjew Kim since September of nineteen ninety five, and in

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February of nineteen ninety six, she had indicated that she

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was having problems selling a house in San Jose. She

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needed some investment money and asked him to borrow on

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a personal guarantee the three hundred thousand that he had

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just sold the piece of art for, and in exchange,

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he would live at her place rent free for I

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think it was about nine months, so March through December

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of nineteen ninety he was supposed to be able to

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live there rent free, and that would offset the interest

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that she would have paid had she taken the loan

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out through a bank. So on March first he entered

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into that contract with her, and he gave her three

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hundred thousand dollars, and by March thirtieth March thirty first

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of nineteen ninety six, Hawk Dukim was dead. She was

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in the midst of actively putting together an investment deal

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for a I want to say it was a video

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store or something to that notion. She was getting ready

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to purchase a business, which is what she had indicated

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she was going to be doing with that money, which

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was investing it. On March thirtieth of nineteen ninety six,

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mister Wilson sold a second piece of antique arc for

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about four hundred thousand dollars, and this was on a

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Friday evening, so of course he didn't have an opportunity

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to take that money to the bank and put it

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into his safety deposit box, which meant that he had

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it stored in his backpack in his bedroom. Saturday comes around,

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which is March thirtieth, and he is off to have lunch,

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and after eating his lunch, he discovers a woman has

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left her purse at the diner, and he attempts to

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track her down gives it to the bus boy. The

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bus boy can't find her, and ultimately the purse is

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delivered to the owner of the sandwich shop that he

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is eating at. He leaves from the sandwich shop at

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approximately one thirty five in the afternoon and he begins

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his walk home, which takes him approximately twenty five minutes

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about five minutes into his walk, he stops. He calls

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the yellow Cab and he asks for them to pick

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him up at his place of residence, in which case

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he then continues his walk until he gets home. When

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he gets home, he notices there's a vehicle in the

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driveway that has a car cover over it. He doesn't

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recognize the vehicle, and he knows that his landlord doesn't

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put a car cover on her car and herbim is gone,

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so he gathers his things, he waits for the yellow cab.

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Yellow cab doesn't show up, so he calls them back

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and he indicates, you know, they were supposed to be

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here at two. It's now two minutes past two. Where

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where's this cab? And it turns out that the dispatcher

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had actually given the wrong address to the taxi cab,

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so he was on the other side of town. By

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the time he made it to the actual location where

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he was supposed to pick up mister Wilson, it was

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approximately two four, two five pm and mister Wilson, you know,

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grabs all of his belongings and loads them up in

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the cab and they are off to San Francisco. When

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they get to San Francisco. The caby is not very

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familiar with the streets there, finds himself to be frustrated

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driving in circles. Ultimately, mister Wilson tells him, I'd like

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you to just take me to the Coltran station where

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he can just catch a bus or whatever he needs

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to into the city to find his friends. Once they

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get there, the cab driver accidentally slams mister Wilson's hand

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in the car door, which tears off a fingernail and

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breaks the finger. He's bleeding profusely, it's not stopping, so

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he ultimately ends up at the hospital in San Francisco,

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where they address his needs by way of obviously controlling

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the bleeding and splinting the broken finger, and he's there

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from approximately four pm until about ten o'clock at night,

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in which case he's discharged. Once he gets discharged, he

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finds himself something to eat. He makes it back to

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the bus station and he purchases a ticket at approximately

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eleven thirty in the evening, and that ticket is for

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a twelve ten ride home, which is going to take

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approximately an hour from San Francisco to Palo Alto. He

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makes it back to the bus station in Palo Alto

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or the Coltran station, and he makes his walk home.

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By the time he gets home, it's approximately two thirty

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two forty five in the morning, and he decides he

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needs something to eat and drink at this point in time,

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so he gets up, he leaves to the seven eleven

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and and I'll mind you in his particular room that

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he has, he has a back door entry, so he

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doesn't have to come through the house. He can come

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through the back door and not have to see anybody.

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And that's what he did when he got home, and

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of course when he left to go to seven eleven,

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he did the same thing, not to disturb anybody else

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who might be sleeping in the house. When he gets

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back and he's done eating, he needs to use the restroom,

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which causes him to have to walk into the actual

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house itself, and on his way to the bathroom, he

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notices that the basement door is wide open, the light

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is on, so he looks downstairs and he sees his

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landlord at the bottom of the stairs. That's pretty much

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what kicks off the events of him then ultimately being

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arrested for this murder.

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Before you go on, can I give some sound effects

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of what we have that happened already.

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Yeah, that's the one I was looking for. He ultimately

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has another roommate in the house, and that roommate, William Coleman,

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I guess was in his room when Peter started yelling.

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Mister Wilson started yelling for mister Coleman to come in

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a dress and to help him with hawk jew Kim.

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That she is at the bottom of the steps and

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that looks like she might be knocked out or injured

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what have you, but please come help, And he's yelling

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through the door and banging on mister Coleman's door. Ultimately,

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when he pops the door open, he finds Coleman standing

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on the other side of the door, fully dressed, shoes, pants,

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sweatshirt like he's getting ready to go somewhere at forty

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five three fifty in the morning. Another thing about hawk

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jew Kim is you're not allowed to wear shoes in

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the house. So here we have mister Coleman fully dressed

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with shoes on in the house, which is something that's

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completely abnormal because they're not allowed to wear shoes in

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the house. He explains to mister Coleman that he wants

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him to call the police. He asked him on a

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couple of occasions. Mister Coleman finally makes it out into

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the house, looks down the stairwell, sees Hawk Jukim sitting

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down there, and approximately three point fifty three am he

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calls the police, which of course they then come out

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and we know where this is heading, right, everybody in

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the house is now a suspect.

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Hold on, I have one more, I have another sound

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effect for this part. Okay, you ready, Okay, let's find

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out what happens next now.

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Well, basically, the gist of all of the transcripts and

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everything that I've read thus far states that when the

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police officers arrived that we're supposed to do the forensic walkthrough,

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basically take pictures of everything, start tagging everything and marking everything.

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Because Hawk Juwkim is dead at the bottom of the stairs.

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She has a four by twelve beam that's laid across

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her chest, which evidently Wilson attempted to try and remove

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from her, but was incapable of doing that because he

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just suffered the injury to his hand via the cab door.

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Either way, the officers that were supposed to begin taking

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the forensic pictures and everything, receive a phone call from

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their I don't know if it's their sergeant or their

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captain or whoever it is, instructs them to stop what

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they're doing and head back to the police department, because

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at this point in time, they've now taken mister Coleman

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and mister Wilson down to the police department and they've

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been instructed to come back and do the forensics on

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these two individuals, which really doesn't make any sense because

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securing the crime scene, I would have thought would have

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been the most important thing to do, taking pictures, tabbing

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down things, identifying all of this. Have somebody else at

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the police station do this work with these two individuals

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is what I think. I In the process, they took

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mister Wilson's backpack, which I indicated had four hundred thousand

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dollars in it. It also had the purchase of his

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ticket back from San Francisco.

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It had the.

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He had a note inside of there where he wrote

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down the scenario that occurred at the sandwich shop that

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talked about the woman that had left the purse the

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time that it happened. So it's basically exculpatory evidence.

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That is now as a question about that, why did

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he have notes of that? Like if I had a

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scenario like that happened to me, and I'm asking because

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it's what listeners probably thinking, like I wouldn't to take

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a note.

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Okay, So you know, interestingly enough, he is a Stanford

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student at this time. He's thirty one years of age,

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and he's going to Stanford University and he's also working

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inside the pharmacy at hospitals. So I think that in

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his own mindset, taking notes is just something that you

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do when something occurs that.

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Makes sense, that makes a lot of sense. That's kind

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of like breaking news right right.

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Well, and if this person and if this person was

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to come back and want to say that something was

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missing from this purse, he's also you know, marked down

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all of the information.

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We'll see that makes sense. Like I would definitely like

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make pictures and stuff, because you never know. Sometimes there's

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people out there that would do that on purpose to

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try and get somebody in trouble, you know, like leave

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their purse, oh, you know, and say somebody steals it

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and somebody they bet on that somebody is a good

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samaritan and then all of a sudden, it's like, oh, well,

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I had three hundred thousand in that person, it's gone now,

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or something like.

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Right right, well, And that's what made this so interesting

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is that I was completely unaware of the money in

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his backpack when I was doing this. I can wondering

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what was the motive for this officer to have framed him.

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So Basically, when he's ordered back to the police department

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and he brings his backpack before he is walking out

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of the room after they've processed him, forensically, officer rips

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the backpack off of his back. Now, mind you, this

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is now March thirty first, nineteen ninety six, which is

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a Sunday, and the officer proceeds to illegally search and

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seize items out of the backpack. Mister Wilson never saw

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this backpack ever. Again, by the way, which doesn't make

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any sense at all. Yeah, if everything is on the

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up and up, why would he have never seen his

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backpack While he was being detained, he wanted to make

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a phone call and he asked to use the address

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book out of the inside of his backpack, and the

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arresting officer, Michael Yore, indicated as long as you're going

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to allow me to search the backpack, I'll let you

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have your your address book in mister Wilson or Wilson

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is no, you're not, so you my backpack. And I'm

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sure that his resistance to that search was because of

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that four hundred thousand dollars that was inside of it.

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Now I have a question there again playing I'm gonna

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play Devil's advocate here because this is what my people

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might be thinking. But it's like, well, if he didn't

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do anything wrong, why is he worried about his backpack

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game search? I mean, I know what my answer is,

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but I want to hear what you have to say.

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Four hundred thousand.

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Dollars okay, but if you have documentation that you sold

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a piece of art and the money was in there,

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like I know what I would say. I would basically say, well,

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because there's four hundred thousand cash, and they're not going

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to believe a word I say, because it's cash in

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a backpack, and who carries that kind of cash in

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a backpack. That's that's why I wouldn't want them to

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search it.

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If possibly the other side of it makes me believe

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that who he was, I mean again, thirty one year

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old student at Stanford working for the medical industry, he

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probably knew his rights, and he knew that they had

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no right or probable cause to search his backpack, and

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he didn't want them to do that. So, I mean,

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I've never really specifically asked that question in general to

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be able to answer why he didn't want it searched.

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But he didn't want it searched, and that was his right,

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was to not have it searched. Yeah, Unfortunately Michael Yore

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violated those rights and he did search that backpack on

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the thirty first of March, and.

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When he should be enough to release them, by.

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The way, should have been.

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Yeah, that was an legal search and seizure. The search

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weren't was not granted until the following Monday, and that's

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because the judge isn't in until Monday. So if anybody's

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ever gone to jail on Friday through Sunday, you know

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you're not getting out of your Monday when you see

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a judge.

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Yeah.

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Rude, And I gotta say too, Okay, So I do

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find that a lot of things with California happened this way.

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Like I had my own experience as a teenager where

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a cop illegally searched me as a teenager walking down

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the street with no probable cause and found some green

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stuff stuffed down my pants. Okay, and but I also

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knew the law, and so I knew you can only

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go a thumb's reach at that point in time, and

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so I made sure it was. Yeah, it was a

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lot longer than a thumb for sure. So then when

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I go to court for this thing, I literally go

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into court with the whole illegal search and seizure thing.

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I lose. I leave the courtroom in Calabasas get and

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get on the on ramp of the one oh one

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hitchhike back to Aga because I had no vehicle because

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I was a teenager, and the police officer picked me

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up like to get me a ride. And the first

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thing he says to me is like, come on, I

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do this every day. You think you're going to win

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that legal search and seizure thing. There lies the problem

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right there. And so that's why I'm telling the story,

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because that other officer in your case felt like, Eh,

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it goes to court. I can beat that. We deal

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with this all the time. I'm going to do whatever

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I have to do to convict this person, and.

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Sure enough, he literally did so.

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Basically, the handwriting that I was tasked with was the

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handwriting found atop the police report notes, which were copies

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of the train ticket and the note that was done

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inside the sandwich shop, and it specifically said in handwriting

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taken from backpack March thirty first, nineteen ninety six. So

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that's the information that I had on top of both

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of these documents, one with the receipt, one with the

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actual note. And then there were three evidence logs. The

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three evidence logs that came in were atrocious. If if

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our police departments are handling evidence logs in this manner,

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I'm scared. I'm scared for everybody, because, yeah, there should

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not be three versions of an evidence log. There should

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be one version that is chronologically ordered that everything took

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place in the proper manner, the right chain of command.

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We're looking at three different logs that purport different information

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with wide out and obliterations and rewritings. And then on

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one of these evidence logs is its states removed one

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vial of blood. Now, whenever I see something where somebody

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specifically states one, that means there was more than one.

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But that's not the testimony the officers gave in trial.

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The officers in trial, except for the technician or the

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lab technician who actually drew the blood, the other police

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officers said there was only one vile of blood taken

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from mister Wilson. The labjack indicates he pulled two vials

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of blood, one for DNA typing and one to determine

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whether or not he was on the drugs or alcohol

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or anything else like that. So I'm tasked with those

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two headers taken from backpack and removed one vile of blood.

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After doing the cross referencing and comparison of the handwriting,

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I found that it was absolutely the arresting officer's handwriting

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Michael Yore. Based on other evidence logs that were in

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taken on Coleman, and other investigations and research done with

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other witnesses, that this handwriting was absolutely Michael yours.

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Now we see that they.

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Obtained the search weren't on April first, nineteen ninety six.

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Now everything starts to look legitimate because there are police

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reports where another officer who has to join in with

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the arresting officer to do this search of the backpack.

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He indicates small US currency, not this four hundred thousand

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dollars that my client says is in his backpack, but

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small US currency does not mention the receipt does. So

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this officer has written up a log of what they've

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pulled out of this backpack, but it doesn't talk about

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this handwritten note from the sandwich shop. There's no receipt

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from the caltrans there's no talk about this four hundred

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thousand dollars that was in the backpack. Now, on April first,

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all the forensics is taken by a second officer down

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to the lab because now the lab is open on Monday,

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so lab is not open on the weekends, just like

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the judge is not in chambers on the weekend. So

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in this particular batch of forensics that has taken to

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the lab, it indicates a vile of blood.

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Again.

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So now we've got one vile of blood that's been

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removed in the officer's handwriting, and we've got one that

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has shown up with another officer to the forensic laboratory.

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My assumption at this point is is that the individuals

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or the police officers that were supposed to be taking

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forensic pictures were called off of that task because Michael

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Yore has discovered this four hundred thousand dollars in my

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client's backpack, and he is now determined to actually set

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him up.

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For this murder.

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So he removes one of the bials of blood on

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Sunday and he takes it back to the house and

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he splashes. I just found out from a medical examiner's

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report this last week that he splashed two drops. So

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two drops of blood have convicted this man for almost

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thirty years and put him away in prison. Which I

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would think that if anybody had two full drops of

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blood come out of them, you were likely bleeding pretty heavily,

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and there would be more than just two single drops.

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Way, that means.

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Maybe he was checking his diabetes.

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You don't even get that much in the interim.

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He goes through trial and it is a hung jury

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on the first trial. This second trial occurs in two

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thousand and At this point in time, the DA Linda

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Condron is the UH prosecuting District Attorney for the for US.

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I'm gonna say it's oh gosh, it's San Jose, Santa

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Clara County, So Santa Clara County DA. She in the

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second trial convinces the judge that there should be no

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information in regards to third party culpability introduced to the

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jury that would just confuse them and take too much time.

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That's this man's only defense is that somebody else did it.

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But she's able to get it wiped off the board.

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She's able to get her forensic medical team to testify

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erroneously to the actual forensics that involve seamen and motile

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sperm riga mortis. These doctors all absolutely testify in a

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manner that later in other cases they testify in the adverse.

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So it's interesting to note that she was capable of

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getting all of the third party culpability information taken off

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the table, and that she had her own forensic team

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do their job as they did well.

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She all one hundred thousand dollars can pay off a

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lot of people too.

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I started to wonder where the payoff was and if

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she was down for that, But it turns out that

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this particular year she convicted mister Wilson, she also got.

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A seat as a judge.

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Huh, So for her it may have just been about

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closing a case. And let's not forget this is Palo Alto.

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This is one of the supreme places in the Bay

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Area to actually live. Lots of big money there, So

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the crunch to close cases and to you know, identify

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suspects and crimes are really the pressure's.

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Really on there.

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Well, it's it happens everywhere too. That, like you know,

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no matter what the case is, is if they find

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something that could close the case, so people stop bothering

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them about an open case. They will go to whatever

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they have to and that's that. And they don't want

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to once they've figured out that they've they're closing in case,

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they don't want to hear anything else. And that's terrible.

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Correct correct.

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Well, in the process, not only has the backpack gone

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missing and the exculpable evidence, but the copies that were

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made in which case Officer your had written taken from

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backpack on March thirty. First, these pages go missing from

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the police report altogether. They have been replaced. So one

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is labeled page nine in the police report. That page

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has been removed from the police report and nine A

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has been inserted. And in nine A it says, I

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removed this page and it has a very funky set

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of initials on it. The more I look at this handwriting,

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it looks to me that it is also Officer Your's handwriting,

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so he's removed a piece of exculpable evidence. The next

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page is page one twenty six, and that has been

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removed and one twenty seven has been inserted in its place,

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and it merely again says I removed page one twenty

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six with some initials on it. So the police file

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handed over to the defense team doesn't contain any of

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these of this information. And as much as mister Wilson

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has proclaimed I was here, I was here, I was here,

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I had evidence, it was in my backpack, it was

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nowhere to be found in approximately twenty seventeen, I think

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it is. He makes a request for his police file.

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He gets first time ever he gets his entire police

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file presented to him. He notices these pages that says,

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I removed page nine and I removed page one twenty six.

460
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So he then hits up his defense attorney and says,

461
00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:41.400
did you get these pages? And the defense attorney says, no,

462
00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:43.880
I got the ones that you got that say these

463
00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:47.440
were removed. So he made a specific request to Palo

464
00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:49.720
out to police department. And this is what I love

465
00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:53.240
about shift changes and people filing things is that eventually

466
00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:56.039
this stuff will come out because nobody knows how to

467
00:26:56.079 --> 00:26:59.680
cover it all up. So somebody brand new, does have

468
00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:03.480
no doesn't have any background on this case whatsoever, absolutely

469
00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:06.799
finds page nine and page one twenty six and submits

470
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:09.559
it to my client. He is now in possession of

471
00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:13.759
the actual evidence that supports Michael Yore had illegally searched, seized,

472
00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:18.359
and removed that evidence and also threw that evidence basically

473
00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:21.839
away in terms of the actual trial itself, so that

474
00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:26.880
it wasn't available to the defense. The DA failed hugely.

475
00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:29.240
There was a cigarette butt found in the basement next

476
00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:32.720
to the suspect or to the victim. This was not

477
00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:36.640
tested to my knowledge for DNA. The victim was found

478
00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:39.960
half nude, waist up, robe to the left, shoes off

479
00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:44.480
to the side. Her pants and her underwear were pulled up. However,

480
00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:47.319
there was a leaf from the basement that was stuck

481
00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:49.720
to her butt, which means that at some point her

482
00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:52.400
butt was naked on that floor to have collected that leaf,

483
00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:56.720
and then the perpetrator redressed her by putting her underwear

484
00:27:56.720 --> 00:28:00.200
in her sweats on, which allowed that leaf to see say,

485
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:04.960
stuck to her buttox and tell actual autopsy, so.

486
00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:08.640
That actual leaf, not a tattoo, actual.

487
00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:11.559
Leaf match other leaves found in in the base.

488
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:14.400
I just want to make sure because there's people, let's

489
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:17.039
say that, like baby, it's a tattoo and that's why

490
00:28:17.079 --> 00:28:17.519
it's there.

491
00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:19.359
So it's obvious.

492
00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:22.720
It's obviously looking like a rape and the forensic rape

493
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:27.480
kit has identified seminal fluid and a motile sperm. Now,

494
00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:29.799
if anybody knows anything about motile sperm, I had to

495
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:31.640
do my own research because I had to make sure

496
00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:32.079
that what.

497
00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:33.319
My client was saying was true.

498
00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:36.960
Motile sperm only stays motile for approximately twelve hours and

499
00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:40.000
then the tails begin to break and fall off. Only

500
00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:42.960
a couple conditions can prolong that, and that's going to

501
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:45.799
be a cool or refrigerated area, in which case the

502
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:48.400
basement was a cool place, so we're gonna have a

503
00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:50.720
little bit of a longer time before that tail breaks.

504
00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:53.079
And then she was immediately taken and put in a

505
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:56.279
refrigerator until the following morning when she was pulled out

506
00:28:56.279 --> 00:28:59.920
for autopsy, so again keeping things a little bit cooler,

507
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:04.440
but still not allowing that time frame to back itself

508
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:07.000
all the way up an entire day. So they tried

509
00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:10.720
to state that mister Wilson had killed his landlord between

510
00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:15.079
twelve forty eight pm and one fifty eight pm, so

511
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:17.599
within an hour and ten minutes when he's actually gone.

512
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:22.119
So that note that he had for his sandwich shop

513
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:25.480
indicated he was there at one thirty in the afternoon,

514
00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:27.839
So smeck dab in the middle of when he's supposed.

515
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:28.599
To be committing this crime.

516
00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:34.559
That I don't know if the forensics was ever completed

517
00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:38.079
on the sperm or the seamen, but that information and

518
00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:40.119
whether or not it had been ran, had never been

519
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:42.240
given to the defense either, so that was withheld from

520
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:42.720
the defense.

521
00:29:43.240 --> 00:29:44.519
So she was trying to.

522
00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:46.440
Make the claim that there was not a rape, there

523
00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:48.240
was not a third party, when we have all this

524
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:50.200
forensic evidence that suggests there was.

525
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:55.200
Is it possible that the Motown sperm came from Studio

526
00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:55.839
fifty four?

527
00:29:57.640 --> 00:29:59.480
How what is Studio fifty four?

528
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:02.240
You don't know. Studio fifty four. It's like the most

529
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:08.039
famous discothech ever in the world in New York City,

530
00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:13.400
where there would definitely be a lot of Motown sperm. Oh,

531
00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:16.440
you didn't say. You didn't say Motown.

532
00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:23.119
No Motown, motol It's able to move the.

533
00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:26.279
Whole different story. What wouldn't that be mobile?

534
00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:28.680
Well they call it motile.

535
00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:32.039
I don't know why, probably because mobile indicates getting up

536
00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:34.559
and walking or a vehicle or.

537
00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:38.119
You know what, how do you notice sperm can't walk?

538
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:44.680
Maybe that's why it Maybe that's why the tail broke

539
00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:45.400
because it was.

540
00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:53.000
Walking, it bouncing like tigger. Now this one was fully intact,

541
00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:56.440
so obviously DNA could be obtained from it. And in

542
00:30:56.559 --> 00:30:59.880
light of all of this, you know, forensic evidence that

543
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:03.039
was not tested and then shoved aside. And then I've

544
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:06.319
read the transcripts in which case the DA had indicated

545
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:09.000
that this is a waste of time, and the judge

546
00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:11.440
almost sounded like he was kind of against her when

547
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:13.720
he said, this isn't about time. We have the time

548
00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:17.400
to try this correctly. But she was still successful at

549
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:21.160
getting the judge to tell the jury, or for the

550
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.559
judge to decide that the jury would not hear about

551
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:26.359
rape or third party because of the two drops of

552
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:28.480
blood that was found at the scene that did track

553
00:31:28.559 --> 00:31:32.359
back to my client. So after I completed the handwriting examination,

554
00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:37.160
I received a letter from a independent forensic lab that

555
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:40.759
had looked at the results of the DNA that was

556
00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:44.160
ran back in that timeframe, and they indicated that it

557
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:50.200
was strangely similar the degradation. So basically, when DNA or

558
00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:53.880
blood or saliva or whatever sits out in the air,

559
00:31:54.359 --> 00:31:59.119
it degrades breaks down right, So when the blood is

560
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:02.000
drawn from his own that degradation level is going to

561
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:05.000
be a lot less because it goes directly into a tube,

562
00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:07.079
so it's not open to the air, it's not open

563
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:11.599
to all these other factors. The degradation level of these

564
00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:17.079
DNAs together were identical, which leads the forensic lab to

565
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:20.319
believe that the blood that was found at the stine

566
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:22.240
of the crime was in fact the blood that came

567
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:24.920
out of the vial that was taken from his arm.

568
00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:28.440
So basically they splashed these two drops down on the

569
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:30.920
ground and then immediately turned around and picked it back

570
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:34.119
up for the forensic testing. And which case it did

571
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:36.640
not have the time to degrade like her blood did

572
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:39.119
because she had been beaten about the head, she had

573
00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:42.000
lacerations all over her head and there was blood pretty

574
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:46.559
much everywhere. But the fact that the degradation level of

575
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:50.559
these of this DNA was identical indicates that yes, it

576
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:53.119
came from that vile. We have proof that the police

577
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:56.839
officer removed that vile of blood, so he definitely framed

578
00:32:56.880 --> 00:32:59.240
my client. And now that I finally know the motive

579
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:02.039
is four hundred thousand dollars, everything started to make sense.

580
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:04.799
Yeah, that only makes sense. Now I have a question,

581
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:09.759
real quick, serious one though. Wouldn't a blood spat splatter

582
00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:22.839
expert like Dexter wouldn't I was going serious butt right,

583
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:29.119
But seriously though, wouldn't a blood splatter and splatter expert

584
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:33.480
be able to know that the blood that was dropped

585
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:37.119
was dropped and not like from the scene in the crime.

586
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:41.319
I don't know that blood splatter experts were something that

587
00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:44.680
they had back in nineteen ninety six. Quite honestly, we'd

588
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:48.240
like to believe that these sciences have been around for

589
00:33:48.279 --> 00:33:50.880
as long as we've seen, like with Dexter, But the

590
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:54.559
real the realism is is that they haven't been And

591
00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:58.039
I want to say it wasn't even until the early

592
00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:00.759
nineteen nineties that we even had had what they called

593
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:04.960
was link analysis, when they start to actually link murders

594
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:08.039
from different areas and time frames to a single person.

595
00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:11.360
So it was like they had link blindness because the

596
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:14.599
proximity in the time was so distant they didn't know

597
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:17.320
to put the two together because one person had actually

598
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:20.679
committed that crime. So they're even the serial killer notion.

599
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:23.199
I want to say, not until the late eighties, maybe

600
00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:25.920
even early nineties, did we even understand the word or

601
00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:27.280
term serial killer.

602
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:31.000
Hm. Interesting, Yeah, so.

603
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:36.639
I don't think they had blood splatter experts, but even then,

604
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:39.679
and I don't know how they splashed the two drops.

605
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:41.639
I don't know if they literally just you know, put

606
00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:44.000
it upside down, which could appear as though if somebody

607
00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:47.239
had if he had torn his fingernail, let's say, on

608
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:50.320
this four by twelve four x eight by twelve piece

609
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:53.519
of wood, then you would have suspected that there would

610
00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:57.159
have been a lot more blood in the general vicinity.

611
00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:02.239
To tell where it went, Like somebody would be able

612
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:06.480
to analyze that specific action and know where the blood went.

613
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:10.960
Whoever was planting the blood wouldn't be able to know

614
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:13.920
that exactly well.

615
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:16.400
And his hand was completely bandaged, so mind you, he

616
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:19.440
had just spent six hours at the emergency room having

617
00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:24.880
his hand addressed from the cab door, and the bandages

618
00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:28.199
did not have any sign of blood on them. So basically,

619
00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:31.599
the police officer who noted that he had this bandaged hand,

620
00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:34.519
took him to a hospital where they then this reminds

621
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:37.880
me of The Departed, where Leonardo DiCaprio punches the guy

622
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:42.880
out and brings his hand, and then Jack Nicholson wants

623
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:44.480
to find out whether or not he's got a wire

624
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:46.639
in it, so they bust his hand open, you know,

625
00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:50.360
all broken in the cast. So this is what's going

626
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:52.159
through my mind when they say they take him to

627
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:56.400
the hospital. They have to dismantle this bandage, this crutch

628
00:35:56.440 --> 00:35:58.639
on his hand, all of these things so that they

629
00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:03.000
can do a proper forensic test. They did nail scrapings,

630
00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:06.000
they tested the bandage, they did everything. Not an ounce

631
00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:08.400
of her blood, not an ounce of Hawk Jo Kim's

632
00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:11.840
blood is found on his bandage tamp which is freshly bandaged,

633
00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:14.719
by the way, and he has he has the witnesses

634
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:18.159
from the yellow cab who testifies on his behalf, the

635
00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:22.960
medical examiner at San Francisco Hospital testifies on his behalf.

636
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:25.599
Everybody is on his side, with the exception of the

637
00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:27.079
police officer in the DA.

638
00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:30.840
And if they need me, I'm glad to go there

639
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.559
and stick my finger to check my sugar level and

640
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:38.760
drop some blood. To show that might have been what happened.

641
00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:41.519
So if you let him know if he needs me

642
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:43.360
and do that, I will well.

643
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:46.320
Mister Wilson thinks that mister Coleman is actually the one

644
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:51.159
who perpetrated this crime. Mister Coleman indicated when he got

645
00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:53.920
home that night that her BMW was in the driveway,

646
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:57.880
so that explicitly shows that when mister Wilson was home

647
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:01.119
before he got the cab ride to S Francisco, that

648
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:03.960
his landlord wasn't home. But by the time mister Coleman

649
00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:06.679
got home, her BMW was there and the car that

650
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:08.639
had the car cover in it was no longer in

651
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:11.440
the driveway, so that indicates that at a minimum, she

652
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:15.400
was alive. She also had conversations and phone calls between

653
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:19.480
her and her niece, which happened one at twelve forty

654
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:21.960
eight pm. She tried to reach her niece, her niece

655
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:25.480
didn't wasn't home. Her niece then tried calling her back,

656
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:29.280
not getting any answer, kind of scenario, so it indicates

657
00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:32.440
that she was still alive. The theory that they tried

658
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:35.400
to put forth is that mister Wilson was attempting to

659
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:38.199
steal her house. But I read the personal contract that

660
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:40.639
they created or the guarantee for the three hundred grand,

661
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:43.480
and the house was not leverage, so it wasn't like

662
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:45.480
this thing said if you fail to pay me back,

663
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:48.199
I get titled to your house. This was just a

664
00:37:48.199 --> 00:37:50.880
personal guarantee like somebody had given you or loans you

665
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:54.719
five thousand dollars with no collateral. So that whole notion,

666
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:57.800
and they did actually have a document examiner come in

667
00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:00.440
on this case and testify to the fact that she

668
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:04.000
had she had filled out the rent receipts and signed

669
00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:07.239
them for him because he was paying her cash, and

670
00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:11.519
she absolutely, one hundred percent signed this personal guarantee. So

671
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:15.159
they tried to say that in this hour and ten minutes,

672
00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:19.320
mister Wilson forced her under duress to fill out these

673
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:21.840
receipts and to sign this personal contract for the three

674
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:26.519
hundred thousand dollars right before killing her. But the handwriting

675
00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:30.559
shows that it's been written freely and openly, so it

676
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:33.519
doesn't suggest that she was under duress or having any

677
00:38:33.559 --> 00:38:35.880
issues at the time that it was written, and the

678
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:38.199
document examiner testified to that.

679
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:42.280
So their story and what I mean, there's even news.

680
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:45.320
Articles in which case they attempted to say that he

681
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:47.480
was trying to steal her house from her. So they

682
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:51.679
are literally even in the media chastising him and trying

683
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:53.719
to make him look bad in order to facilitate the

684
00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:56.199
case that they want, which is to seal the deal

685
00:38:56.239 --> 00:38:58.400
on him and to close this case on him for

686
00:38:58.480 --> 00:38:59.599
murder that he didn't commit.

687
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:06.920
Has anybody talked to other inmates that he associates with

688
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:13.400
while always incarcerated, because you know, with all the research

689
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:23.079
I do watching these crime shows, you know, you know

690
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:26.800
the inmates, if they're guilty, they slip up at some

691
00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:30.880
time and share it with their bunkie or somebody in

692
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:31.440
the jail.

693
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:34.480
That's what made this case so unique for him to

694
00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:36.840
be reaching out. And by the way, in most cases

695
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:39.519
I don't get I don't get paid for people reaching

696
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:42.559
out to me from prison, and that's typically because they

697
00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:45.079
don't have any means, they don't have anybody who supports them,

698
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:48.360
and they literally are probably guilty of their case. I've

699
00:39:48.360 --> 00:39:51.880
never really found one where the individual thirty years later

700
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:53.039
is still trying to fight.

701
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:53.639
For his innocence.

702
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:58.280
I thought that to be kind of a tickler in

703
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:00.639
my brain, just to begin with, who is still trying

704
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:04.960
to fight after thirty years of maintaining innocence, and so

705
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:06.639
of course you have to take a look at it

706
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:10.440
for what it's worth. Now, mister Coleman, he was also

707
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:12.719
a suspect. He had been arrested, he had been put

708
00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:15.440
on an ankle monitor. This man cut that monitor off

709
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:16.960
and left the country.

710
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:29.239
Oh well, guilty, guilty, you know. Wait wait, wait guilty

711
00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:35.480
here ept, where's my guilty?

712
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:37.920
You need a gabble?

713
00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:43.239
What's the best thing I could do? Short notice and

714
00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:45.800
short this is my gavel.

715
00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:49.199
Don't break your heart machine, No, no.

716
00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:56.199
It's it. It's this. Let see because this is so interesting,

717
00:40:57.079 --> 00:40:59.519
you know, I like bring that out like sometimes in

718
00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:03.000
my ship why my co hosts she's really boring, So

719
00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:11.519
I'll just at some point soci'll be quiet. But this

720
00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:16.719
is very interesting here, okay, because it is I say

721
00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:21.039
it in the MEAI show, all joking aside, they're you know,

722
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:25.960
the system's not perfect, obviously, but there are so many

723
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:29.199
scenarios of people in prison that shouldn't be in prison.

724
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:34.159
And once you're here's what I know, once you're under

725
00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:38.559
the DOJ, you don't really have rights. Aymore so to

726
00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:42.239
your point what you're saying, like it doesn't even matter.

727
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:45.119
There's a lot of times a judge can rule in

728
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:48.920
your favor, and DOJ has final say of whether to

729
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:54.079
release you or not. Once you are incarcerated, your chances

730
00:41:54.280 --> 00:42:01.239
of exercising rights to get out diminish dramatically because nobody

731
00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:05.079
cares you're guilty, and like they lock you up and

732
00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:09.440
like you're forgotten yesterday's news and you go away to

733
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:09.920
your point.

734
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:12.119
Oh, which brings to my point.

735
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:14.280
When I wanted to get in there and do that

736
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:16.599
interview with him, I went back and looked at the

737
00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:19.480
response from the individuals that are in charge of that,

738
00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:25.360
and they said, no, non news media. So and the

739
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:30.159
news is already weaponized against these individuals. In most cases,

740
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:33.679
they could climb on whatever bandwagon that information is leaked

741
00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:36.400
to them, and they sell that to the public. We're

742
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:39.920
looking at Liz last week, they're purportedly stating that they

743
00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:43.719
saw the yogurt murders in Texas, which to me blows

744
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:46.320
me away because they claim that they've done this through DNA,

745
00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:50.199
which I can buy that. Okay, DNA can solve crimes,

746
00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:52.760
but then, how in the heck did you wrongfully convict

747
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:56.079
two people who spent fifteen years in prison for a

748
00:42:56.119 --> 00:42:58.920
crime they didn't commit back in two thousand when you

749
00:42:58.960 --> 00:42:59.559
had DNA.

750
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:06.320
Well, I could answer that because I've had attorneys before that.

751
00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:09.719
When they sent me their billable hours, right there in

752
00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:12.840
black and white, it said they went to TCB at

753
00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:16.639
y yogurt to discuss the case and charge me for

754
00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:24.320
that again, So maybe maybe the real yogurt killers were

755
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:29.960
having yogurt discussing the case, and that's I don't know.

756
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:34.760
Well, these these district attorneys, Yes, their job is to

757
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:38.400
prosecute a live criminal. They're also their job is to

758
00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:42.440
uphold the law for those that are innocent, not to

759
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:45.239
compound to make it worse, to make it hard for

760
00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:50.440
them to present their case to forensic to hire forensic witnesses,

761
00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:55.760
to to erroneously testify to a jury in regards to forensics.

762
00:43:55.760 --> 00:44:01.039
That's complete crap. So this this DA now, having been

763
00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:04.639
a judge for the last twenty some years. To my knowledge,

764
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:07.960
I believe she might still be practicing as a judge

765
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:11.000
in some capacity, but she needs to be taken off

766
00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:14.000
the bench. Every case that she's ever handled, her touch

767
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:16.880
needs to be looked at along with this officer Michael Yore,

768
00:44:17.159 --> 00:44:19.559
because if he took this four hundred thousand dollars, which

769
00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:21.559
is exactly what the client is say, and he did.

770
00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:24.199
Then he's done this to other people and god.

771
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:29.920
Wait, absolutely, now here's my question. Like, here's another thing too.

772
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:33.679
It's very coincidence become a judge because I know for

773
00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:39.440
a fact that when prosecutors prosecute cases, they get bonuses

774
00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:45.119
and promotions, so that she did, even if there wasn't

775
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:48.920
a payoff. Listen, now I'm a judge, Okay.

776
00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:52.159
I believe that what I read in regards to her

777
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:55.360
receiving that seat was that it hadn't even officially been

778
00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:58.440
up for voting for yet, so she was just given

779
00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:09.159
it by the governor at that time. Oh wait, and

780
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:11.079
you know what's even crazier is that some of the

781
00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:13.760
cases that I read, some of the articles, not cases,

782
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:16.639
but the articles on cases that she's heard. Is that

783
00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:22.000
she's now known to be a very stiff, strict person

784
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:25.199
on the bench who indicates that if a prosecutor is

785
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:27.679
not ready, their witnesses aren't available, or they don't have

786
00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:31.840
everything together when trial comes, they force thetion. She forces

787
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:36.639
the prosecution to dismiss the case. But here she was,

788
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:39.760
and maybe this is her retribution. Maybe this is her

789
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:41.840
way of trying to make up for what she knew.

790
00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:45.719
She did to obtain that seat. But she withheld information,

791
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:50.480
She didn't present the forensics. She had witnesses get up

792
00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:54.800
there and testify to untruce in regards to forensics. And

793
00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:59.079
now she sits high and mighty on the bench expecting

794
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:02.159
more from the process secuters beneath her. Then she afforded

795
00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:04.679
the very people that she prosecuted back when she was

796
00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:05.480
a prosecutor.

797
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:09.760
He should have met, he should have never rejected her advances.

798
00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:10.639
That's all I'm saying.

799
00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:14.039
The Zodiac killer.

800
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:19.800
Nothing like a woman's scorn, okay, And don't do it

801
00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:23.760
to a judge if you are a you know, somebody

802
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:27.760
that got arrested because just do whatever the judge tells you.

803
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:31.440
Well, and the other side of it.

804
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:34.920
If mister Coleman wasn't guilty, but I have to believe

805
00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:37.639
that he was fully aware. He lives inside the house.

806
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:40.280
He doesn't have a separate entrance to his door. He

807
00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:43.199
would have noticed that basement door being opened because it's

808
00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:45.679
always closed. There's a draft that comes up from it,

809
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:47.960
and they've always been instructed to keep the door closed.

810
00:46:48.159 --> 00:46:49.679
He would have seen that the light was on. So

811
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:52.800
if he didn't commit this crime, albeit him sitting by

812
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:55.480
and watching what they were capable of doing to mister Wilson,

813
00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:57.559
I probably would have cut off an ankle monitor and

814
00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:01.119
skeat outled myself too, because they were able to convict

815
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:04.920
somebody who was completely innocent, went through the means, And

816
00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:07.960
of course they stipulate at the second trial that yes,

817
00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:11.280
mister Coleman is not present for the jury to hear.

818
00:47:11.639 --> 00:47:15.440
They then do a mock play inside the courtroom reading

819
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:21.800
his testimony, the prosecution playing herself, the defense attorney playing himself,

820
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:25.000
and then some stranger I think an officer or somebody

821
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:28.079
else is reading the answers of mister Coleman, which was

822
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:29.239
from the first trial.

823
00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:34.679
It's it positive impossible that mister Coleman framed mister Wilson.

824
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:35.639
Uh.

825
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:37.760
You know what, from everything that I can tell, all

826
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:43.239
he really did was lie about his involvement with mister Wilson,

827
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:46.559
trying to get his attention, him not answering his bedroom door,

828
00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:49.280
him being fully dressed like. He lied about a whole

829
00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:52.199
bunch of things that make him look guilty. But he

830
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:55.559
didn't say anything in his transcripts that would have indicated

831
00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:58.639
that mister Wilson was guilty. Problem is now is that

832
00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:01.679
our second suspect is gone, and he's gone and left

833
00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:04.400
the country and they don't have anybody else to look at.

834
00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:06.400
They got to solve it on. I think that the

835
00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:09.760
second officer yours saw the four hundred thousand in that backpack.

836
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:12.400
There was no way mister Wilson was getting out, no way.

837
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:17.719
Or was it that the officer just really didn't like Slipknot.

838
00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:23.719
Ha ha, yes, slipnot And that's not the real mill mister

839
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:26.920
Wilson playing with Slipknot now, but you can't tell because

840
00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:27.760
there's a mask on.

841
00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:32.079
But the real mister Wilson is sitting in jail cell

842
00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:37.199
because some police officer didn't like slipknots music. That's that's

843
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:38.119
my analysis.

844
00:48:39.559 --> 00:48:42.000
Well, I'm hoping that at any point I know that

845
00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:45.159
he has filed for rid of habeas corpus. My issue

846
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:47.559
that I have with it is that he has to

847
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:50.480
do this petition through Santa Clara County, which is exactly

848
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:55.719
where this DA was and prosecuted individuals. And I'm not

849
00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:58.599
sure if she then became an actual I think she

850
00:48:58.719 --> 00:49:01.760
did maybe become an actual judge in Santa Clair County.

851
00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:05.960
So I'm concerned about them doing what's right on behalf

852
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:07.719
of this individual who is innocent.

853
00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:13.159
Oh, I'm concerned too, because seriously, I mean, when you

854
00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:18.119
file for appeal, especially a habeas corpus, most of the

855
00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:22.920
time it ends up going back to the judge that sentenced.

856
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:26.599
You, and that judge is not going to be available anymore.

857
00:49:26.639 --> 00:49:29.320
Obviously after thirty years of him being in prison. I

858
00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:30.920
don't think that it's going to go back to that

859
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:34.960
same judge. However, it's going to reflect on somebody who

860
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:37.760
was a judge. It's going to reflect on that da,

861
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:42.639
that prosecutor who made sure that this man was ultimately

862
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:44.599
convicted of a crime that he did not commit.

863
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:45.760
Yeah.

864
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:48.039
Now, whether or not she was paid or for her,

865
00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:50.119
it was a notch in the belt in order to

866
00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:52.440
get that seat as a judge. She has plenty of

867
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:54.199
motivation as well.

868
00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:56.400
Well. I've also heard I don't know if you've had

869
00:49:56.400 --> 00:50:01.440
this experience, but I've heard that a lot of times,

870
00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:06.880
especially in the federal court system criminal court system, is

871
00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:10.960
that a bunch of judges cut together ahead of time

872
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:15.760
of cases and they are a determined guilt or not

873
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:17.400
guilt in so many words.

874
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:18.559
Isn't that sick?

875
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:23.320
Yeah, you know, and it's like, okay, it's like a

876
00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:25.559
bunch of them, Okay, let's decide what to do with

877
00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:26.159
this case.

878
00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:31.000
That's as if to presume that every single prosecutor doesn't lie,

879
00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:36.760
every single prosecutor is for their citizens.

880
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:37.320
Yeah.

881
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:41.119
Yeah, that there's nobody nefarius in that field or in

882
00:50:41.119 --> 00:50:41.719
that arena.

883
00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:43.400
Which I think.

884
00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:48.280
Is the problem is prosecutors they're paid to convict people.

885
00:50:48.280 --> 00:50:51.039
They're not paid to defend them.

886
00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:56.079
Or they are they actually are. They take an oath

887
00:50:56.440 --> 00:51:01.000
to the United States. I mean that means even the

888
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:02.840
criminal you have to be on the up and up,

889
00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:06.239
you have to provide all the evidence, whether it exculps

890
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:09.280
them or enculps them. You have to provide all of

891
00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:11.800
that evidence to the other side. They're the ones that

892
00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:15.440
maintain control and chain the custody of the forensics from

893
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:17.840
the time that the police department steps in and starts

894
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:20.559
collecting that stuff all the way through the testing and

895
00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:23.159
into the hands of the prosecutor when they actually go

896
00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:27.119
to trial. They are obligated to provide every single result

897
00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:29.800
to the other side. Because what if we have a

898
00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:32.480
scenario just like this where we have an officer that's

899
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:34.760
on the take and an individual who's being framed for

900
00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:36.960
a murdered that they didn't commit. He had the right

901
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:39.480
to know about the DNA testing on the cigarette butt

902
00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:43.400
on the semen. The prosecutor tried to play it off

903
00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:46.280
like like, oh, she could have had sex mutual or

904
00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:50.360
consensual sex up to three days before, which is complete

905
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:53.880
bs sperm ISONI mobile for the twelve hours.

906
00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:55.840
To be there for three days.

907
00:51:56.320 --> 00:51:57.760
No, the leaf wouldn't have been there at all.

908
00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:00.679
She had had consensual sex, the leaf never have made

909
00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:03.159
it underneath her underwear and underneath her sweats.

910
00:52:03.559 --> 00:52:07.280
Okay, So I want to point something out to you. Unfortunately,

911
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:10.280
there's so much more to talk about here. Unfortunately we're

912
00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:12.119
past to fifty bands and we didn't even get to

913
00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:13.320
your slide show yet.

914
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:16.119
Ah well, I only had that up in case we

915
00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:18.320
wanted to view any of the evidence that I put together.

916
00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:22.159
But I have about an eighty seven slide PowerPoint presentation

917
00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:25.280
that's put together where I've compiled the evidence, the transcripts,

918
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:27.480
what the DA's done with the officer's done, and what

919
00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:30.920
has been wrongfully done to mister Wilson. And like I

920
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:32.760
told you it was gonna be hard pressed just to

921
00:52:32.760 --> 00:52:34.280
get the facts out in fifty minutes.

922
00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:37.679
Well, yeah, and the next time I do a Jerry

923
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:43.199
Lewis marathon, a telethon, then we'll have time. Then we'll

924
00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:45.480
have time to go through the ninety slides.

925
00:52:47.960 --> 00:52:51.280
Free Peter Wilson. He needs this rid of habeas corpus.

926
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:53.760
This man needs his life back. He spent thirty years

927
00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:54.119
in press.

928
00:52:54.280 --> 00:53:02.159
I want family guy back, Family guy back. Man.

929
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:08.800
Seriously, you better call it quits, mister pass fifty minutes.

930
00:53:09.239 --> 00:53:11.119
Yeah, I do have to call it quits. But I

931
00:53:11.159 --> 00:53:14.920
do want to say, seriously, we have to stop this

932
00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:19.880
crap where people spend time in prison just because the people,

933
00:53:20.199 --> 00:53:25.079
the people investigating, get lazy. We won't even say anything controversial,

934
00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:29.440
you know. Sometimes it's just laziness. Okay, we did our job.

935
00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:34.760
We're not gonna do anymore. And I think, you know,

936
00:53:35.239 --> 00:53:37.719
I think before you put somebody in prison, especially for

937
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:41.519
that long period time, you better be one hundred million

938
00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:45.920
percent sure of what you're doing, you know, or you're

939
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:51.760
gonna be crooked, obviously. But listen, that's the problem too,

940
00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:54.800
when you get in a position of power. You even

941
00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:58.440
see it with criminals Okay, aim position of power, people

942
00:53:58.519 --> 00:54:02.239
start feeling like they're unt touchable. So maybe this officer

943
00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:11.480
who got the four hundred thousand dollars hypothetically, then maybe

944
00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:15.760
he just felt like he had the system down and

945
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:18.840
knew he could get away with it, which, obviously, if

946
00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:22.599
that is the case, he did get away with it. Uh.

947
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:25.119
You know what's even crazier is that I read an

948
00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:28.239
article that listed about four or five other murders that

949
00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:31.639
occurred during around the timeframe of Hawkjuwke Kim, in which

950
00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:34.239
case there were people who had actually planned the murder

951
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:36.199
out to steal money from family.

952
00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:37.400
Or what have you.

953
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:41.440
These individuals only did five to ten years for murder

954
00:54:41.639 --> 00:54:46.000
for pre planned murder, and we've got mister Wilson, which

955
00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:49.239
this wouldn't have been a pre planned murder obviously, even

956
00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:52.480
if he had committed it, it wasn't pre planned. Is

957
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:56.000
thirty years with no chance parole. I think the DA

958
00:54:56.400 --> 00:54:59.800
had to have known that Michael Yore was dirty while

959
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:01.320
in such a sentence.

960
00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:08.920
Yeah, absolutely, Oh hold on, I got yeah, Okay, she's

961
00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:13.320
gonna be over there in a couple minutes. Okay, so

962
00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:16.960
we got to talk to the other engineer because you're

963
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:19.599
you're on my show, but you're gonna be doing your

964
00:55:19.639 --> 00:55:22.400
show in a couple of minutes. So I'm just letting

965
00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:26.960
them know. Okay, then that's working on another crime right now.

966
00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:30.719
She'll work on your crime in a couple minutes. Okay.

967
00:55:33.280 --> 00:55:37.840
So anyway, thank you for having me here.

968
00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:40.119
I do appreciate getting this information out.

969
00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:42.239
I get a good cause this guy.

970
00:55:42.320 --> 00:55:45.360
Yeah, yeah, I like having fun, but it's a good cause.

971
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:47.920
And I always feel bad for people like that, because

972
00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:51.840
what and what are you gonna do if you find

973
00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:55.400
out it's true that he was framed or whatever.

974
00:55:55.639 --> 00:55:56.239
It is true.

975
00:55:56.400 --> 00:55:59.639
We've already got the DNA evidence, We've got the handwriting evidence.

976
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:02.519
Reached out to Julie Watts Julie Watts.

977
00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:06.760
On CBS thirteen News investigative Journalists. She asked me for

978
00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:10.360
some information. I provided her with my PowerPoint presentation. I've

979
00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:13.079
not heard back from her. I've reached out to people

980
00:56:13.159 --> 00:56:15.840
such as the Innocence Project. I just received a letter

981
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:18.480
back from them this last week stating that they couldn't

982
00:56:18.519 --> 00:56:21.360
help with the rid of Habeas Corpus, but they believe

983
00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:24.320
that he is innocent and thanking me for working on

984
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:26.559
this project. And you know this is much like the

985
00:56:26.639 --> 00:56:28.960
Zodiac case and the fact that the FBI says we

986
00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:31.280
don't have the resources. The only person who's going to

987
00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:34.119
do it is uninet. We appreciate you for doing it, well,

988
00:56:34.199 --> 00:56:36.159
thank you guys, but I'm not getting paid for this.

989
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:38.599
I'm only out here to see that justice is fulfilled.

990
00:56:38.840 --> 00:56:41.639
See. That's why I love about you, because you're like,

991
00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:44.840
You're like a real life superhero.

992
00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:48.079
Neat me in any where's my sound effects?

993
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:57.920
Blah blah blah blah, but here? All right?

994
00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:01.320
Okay, so hold on, we have one more sound effect

995
00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:09.960
for you. Hold on, let me find it here. How

996
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:13.639
about we just do my closing song? There you go? Ready?

997
00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:16.119
Are you ready for this? Ready?

998
00:57:18.079 --> 00:57:19.199
This is the man.

999
00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:20.920
He's gotta.

1000
00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:32.519
Play that play that.

1001
00:57:35.960 --> 00:57:36.199
Man?

1002
00:57:36.519 --> 00:57:36.719
Yeah?

1003
00:57:40.039 --> 00:57:44.199
Why ready?

1004
00:57:44.599 --> 00:57:48.440
That was That was a festival an interview impromptu pipe

1005
00:57:48.440 --> 00:57:51.239
man song they wrote right during the interview, so we

1006
00:57:51.320 --> 00:57:55.320
had to include it on this. But seriously, thank God

1007
00:57:55.400 --> 00:57:58.000
for people like you, because it makes me so sad

1008
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:01.679
that people like mister Griff Wilson. I was about to say,

1009
00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:11.960
mister Griffin foiled by my own joke that I really

1010
00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:14.000
my heart goes out to him, because that's what I

1011
00:58:14.039 --> 00:58:16.079
was starting to say before is like, even if he

1012
00:58:16.119 --> 00:58:20.840
gets freed, what do you do after that much time passes?

1013
00:58:21.199 --> 00:58:24.559
You came in like I think of Shawshank Redemption and

1014
00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:28.320
what's his name? Game released at like eighty some odd

1015
00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:28.880
years old.

1016
00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:32.320
You know, bro, the guys in the Yogurt shot murders

1017
00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:35.280
that got released after fifteen years, they suffered with the

1018
00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:37.800
stigma over their head for having been killers that they

1019
00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:40.840
were for the last fifteen years. So you're right, you

1020
00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:45.719
can't work once the media has weaponized themselves against you.

1021
00:58:45.719 --> 00:58:46.480
You're screwed.

1022
00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:49.719
Yeah, no matter what, and then you know you can't

1023
00:58:49.719 --> 00:58:52.960
really function in society. Who's going to hire you? Who's

1024
00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:53.519
going to do this?

1025
00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:54.559
Exactly?

1026
00:58:54.679 --> 00:58:57.880
Basically a lot of these inmates. Bravo to him for

1027
00:58:57.960 --> 00:59:00.280
standing up for himself, because by this point a lot

1028
00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:03.840
of these inmates won't even try anymore because they're already

1029
00:59:03.880 --> 00:59:07.519
set in their lifestyle now they and they know that

1030
00:59:08.119 --> 00:59:12.039
where they are might be better off than being outside.

1031
00:59:12.360 --> 00:59:15.639
You know, it can become institutionalized if you're in there.

1032
00:59:16.639 --> 00:59:19.840
How do you come out and actively become a productive

1033
00:59:19.880 --> 00:59:23.159
member of society when you don't even recognize society anymore?

1034
00:59:23.519 --> 00:59:27.400
No, especially as quickly as society changes nowadays.

1035
00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:30.400
He didn't even have cell phones then, exactly.

1036
00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:33.840
That might come. No Internet, no cell phones, no social media,

1037
00:59:33.880 --> 00:59:37.719
he wouldn't know what to do, like set. And that's

1038
00:59:37.760 --> 00:59:42.039
why there's a recipitism rate is so high because people

1039
00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:44.800
that ends up happening to they're just like, I just

1040
00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:45.880
just send me back supposon.

1041
00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:49.360
Yeah, all right, you rock.

1042
00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:54.760
Everybody. Make sure to tune into Nanette because she is

1043
00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:59.760
the bomb and she's gonna hit the road jack while

1044
00:59:59.800 --> 01:00:06.800
she finding the Zodiac. Yes, so check her out and man,

1045
01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:11.119
you rock. There's her show right up there, and there's

1046
01:00:11.159 --> 01:00:16.280
her boyfriend up there in the top right. And thanks

1047
01:00:16.760 --> 01:00:19.000
thanks for listening to the adventures of pipe Man here

1048
01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:20.599
on W four c Y Radio.

1049
01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:26.480
Take care everybody, Thank you for listening to the Adventures

1050
01:00:26.480 --> 01:00:31.320
of Pipemin. I'm w for c u I Radio.