May 23, 2026

DISTANT at Welcome to Rockville 2026 - PipemanRadio Interview

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The Dutch deathcore band DISTANT played at the 2026 Welcome to Rockville festival in Daytona Beach, Florida. They performed on Sunday, May 10th, appearing on the Vortex Stage at 1:35 p.m.

DISTANT is a 4-piece crushing DOWNTEMPO DEATHCORE band hailing from Rotterdam, The Netherlands and Bratislava, Slovakia.

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Hi, you love one to censure.

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Wow for you you.

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Oh my god, oh my god.

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This is the pipe Man here on the Avengers Pipe

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Man W four C Y Radio, and I'm here back

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in South Florida.

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I was at Welcome to Rockville.

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I got evacuated three days in a row. One of

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those days I was supposed to have an interview with

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this really badass band and it just didn't happen. Nature

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decided it was not in the cards. But nature decided

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it is in the cards today. So we are here

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with Elmer from distant.

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How are you.

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I'm good, I'm beck. I'm safe now, so I.

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Know, And we're actually kind of lucky when we scheduled

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this because I wasn't surprised about Rockville. Okay, I've been

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to Rockville since like twenty thirteen, and I think there's

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only one.

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Time I was not evacuated.

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But it's like that here during this time of year,

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it's like three four o'clock, three to five, you can

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generally set your alarm clock that it's gonna be a

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thunderstorm with sometimes badass lightning and a serious torrential downpour.

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And as you saw, that was very true at Welcome

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to Rockville.

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Oh yeah, Well I was really surprised, to be honest,

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because I'm used to the European festivals and when something

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like this happens, it's just chaos. Yeah, it's cancelation, so

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festival and it doesn't continue. But it seems to like,

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seems like a smooth procedure and welcome to rock fill

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way to just continue again.

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Well, the Wimmor festivals have a lot of experience with

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evacuations because I've had a lot of them over the

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heres at different ones. But I think the way they

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did this year was really good, Like they really honed

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in on because really no bands really got cut.

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There were only two bands that didn't play.

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One that's because they had to go on to their

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next gig, you know, and that happens, you know, like

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you're sometimes you're on timeline, like and you're supposed to

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get on load out like as soon as you're you know,

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done with your gig, and then another one she just disappeared.

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So she probably figured too, like you would think like, oh,

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well it's over now, Like.

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I bet you that's what happened.

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She probably was like, oh it's gonna be all canceled

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altogether now. But what's cool too is Wimmer always has

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a good connection with the local law enforcement and first responders.

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So I remember, like several years ago at Rock on

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the Range, what was Sonic It was either Sonic Temple

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or Rock on the Range. But Metallica was supposed to

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headline and we and there was a massive storm. We

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got evacuated, and people were in the Facebook groups threatening

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that they were going to riot if Metallica didn't play.

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And then where it was had you know the you know,

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the noise ordinance, so you couldn't play a past a

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certain time.

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No matter what.

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Wimmer actually got the law enforcement in the area to

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extend the curfew so Mentallica could play. They played at

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one in the morning, which would be normal if we

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were at Hellfest or someplace like that, but in the

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States it's not always normal to be able to play at.

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One in the morning.

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I think it would suck being a band though, right,

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you go and you're all pumped up to play, and

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then you got wait till one in the morning.

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Like you're all deflated by that time.

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Right, especially if you have to sit around and wait.

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Right, that's the point. If you're doing something, it's one thing.

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But if you're sitting around and waiting, man, it's rough

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to get through right there, especially when you're in the

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headline band. But I got to check out your set

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at Rockville, and oh my god, you definitely represented the

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Northern European area very well because you guys were brutal.

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And I say that in the best of ways. Yeah,

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well that's what we like, right, I mean I I

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often think that bands in your part of the world

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are so brutal and so great because the weather sucks

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so bad most of the time, so you got nothing

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better to do but to play your mutes.

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Well that's how it feels, yeah, especially coming to the US,

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where the weather is always nice just wherever you.

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Go, right except when you're evacuated from a festival.

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That's still the weather is nice.

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Like it's yeah, exactly. Well, I gotta tell you something

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I don't know. I'm some kind more on because I've

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been going to your country a lot for the past

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thirty years, and for some reason, I don't know what

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kind of idiot I am. I almost always except one time,

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have gone during the winter and that decision, Oh my god,

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and then the last time was okay. I spent two

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months in Amsterdam, and then I spent another couple of

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weeks and then huh, but you know how Amsterdam is,

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It's already built on water. So for the three months

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that I was in the Netherlands that year a couple

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of years ago, I saw a total of three hours.

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Suddenly and it was freezing. Imagine I live in South Florida.

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You know, I'm used to cold.

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I'm from New York and New Jersey, but now I'm

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used to Florida.

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But that was bad enough.

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But walking through Amsterdam and I'm gonna type that I

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won't let that stuff stop me. And I was walking

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every day through Amsterdam in that misty, freezing rain as

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my least favorite part of winter anywhere, you know, like

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they have that New Jersey and I'm like, I'd rather

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it would snow, to be honest, you know than that

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exok me, freezing misty rain. I was cure the winter then,

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like I was like, you know what, I don't think

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I'm coming back here in the winter from now on,

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I'm going to be smart and due to summer.

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Way better.

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That's why we always hope to get to the us

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in the winter, especially to Florida. So we've been looking

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out to flying over for the last off year. Of course. Yeah,

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just get the winter, I know, right.

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And it's like I've concerned several times moving the Netherlands

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because I love it so much there. But now I'm

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convinced that if I do, it's not going to be

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I'm gonna like take the winter off, like I won't

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live there in the winter, you know. But I mean

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otherwise it's a beautiful country, and it is really beautiful

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in the summer. I don't know why I always went

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in the winter, because it is really beautiful in the summer.

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But yeah, I love your performance, not only at Rockville,

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but I love your newest single because it is so

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freaking brutal, Like I just.

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Was.

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I was listening to it before the interview again, just

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to pump up for the interview. Nice, So tell us

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a little bit about for the listeners that don't know

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you guys. I know it's funny. I'm not a genre person,

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but I kind of laughed in one of the descriptions

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I saw that said a four piece crushing down Temple

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Death Corps band, Yeah, and I was like, that's.

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Pretty cool because, like a lot of times in my interviews.

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At the festivals, because I do festivals all over the US,

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UK and Europe, because it's so stupid nowadays with the

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micro genres and the subgenres that a lot of times

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when I have somebody an interview, I'm like, well, if

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you had your own genre to your own band was in,

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what would you call it? And then I saw this,

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I'm like, man, that would be the answer right there,

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crushing down temple death core, Like I like that as

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a good ring to it. Yeah, So tell us a

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little bit about your Well, let's go first, let's talk

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a little bit about the experience of Rockville for you,

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Like you're used to doing the European festivals.

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US festivals used to be shit.

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Compared to European festivals, and I think we're kind of taken,

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you know, you know, we're taking some tips from the

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European festivals. And now that you played Welcome to Rockville,

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how do you feel about that statement I just made.

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Do you think it was you know, as well run

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and as cool as a European festival.

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Well, to be honest, I absolutely agree with it. Like

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I was not expecting this and this not in a

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bad way, but in a good way. Yeah, as I

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had to hope to be honest, that it would be

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a totally different experience to play a festival and in

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the US. But it felt very European like were organized. Yeah,

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just in general. It might have might have been just

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for the for the weather and the thunderstorm shin out

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of the fix, but otherwise I would have thought.

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That was I was in Europe, right, And see, I

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think that's where the Wimmer festivals are so great because

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he recognized what Europe has with music festivals that we

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didn't have like our US festivals before. Wimmer was more

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like carnivals or fairs than music festivals, is the best

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way I could put it.

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Like it was just like.

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It wasn't well organized, it was crappy food. It was

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like just this, for lack of a better way of

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putting in a ship show and Danny Wimmer just runs

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a well oiled machine, which means leads me to the

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next question, how did you feel Damny Wimmer treated you

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as an artist?

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Because I think that's so important.

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Yeah, I agree to that, And actually there was was

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really well organized. So from from the start where everything

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was advanced properly, but also to to just the catering

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and the and the backstages again, yeah, very very you

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being experience where it's just super organized. There's there's nothing

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you can complain about even and that's that's that's a

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bit of different compared to or general US experience where

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for shows in general, you get a buyout, which means

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you have to get your own food. Yeah. Really pretty

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hard in the US because there there isn't any food

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shops around the corner, so you have to order order food.

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So you're Yeah, you just suffer on your health because

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you can't get a proper meal, you can't eat dinner

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at the proper time. And here at this festival, there's

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plenty of healthy food all day long.

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So I love hearing that really because it's so important.

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The reason I think it's so important, first of all,

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as an artist, you need a stress free and experience,

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you know, and like nothing's worth that showing up to

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a festival. You have problems with catering, you have problems

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with loading, you have problems with soundcheck, and it just

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puts your emotions and your mind in the wrong place

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to be prepared to do a gig.

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Yeah, to be honest, I think I think that's help.

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That helps a lot, and I don't think you should

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you should budget on it because if if the ideals

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feels comfortable, does have any complaints about anything, then just

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in general, the performance will be good if you're there

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on stage and your angry and thirsty.

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Performance exactly exactly. And so I think that's where Danny

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Wimmer gets it. He gets that one of the most

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important parts is the artist, because if you please the artist,

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I think you're gonna please the audience at the same

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time exactly.

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The artist is gonna give them their best show, and

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everybody is going to be happy that they've seen so

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many bands at their best.

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Right.

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So what did also feel like to play at one

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of the most famous race tracks in the whole world.

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It's felt a bit surreal, just just because I would

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all look like for us as Europeans, we're not very

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familiar with with Nascar. I'm a Formula one guy, so

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I would have hoped to be in Miami on the

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on the F one track. This track does look way cooler,

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to be honest.

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Oh my god, It's like it's so much fun riding

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on the track too, and that wall it.

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Doesn't look like that on TV.

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Like that wall is insane that they have to drive

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around they have to hit that wall that corner at

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eighty miles per hour in order to not.

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Fall off the wall. Yeah, exactly, that's insane, you know.

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And it's like, okay, so do you remember seeing I

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have a trivia question for you, but we're not there,

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so you might not remember it. Asked all the bands,

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do you remember seeing the seats in the stands, not

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where the audience was, but for the raceway, and they

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were all like multicolor seats. I haven't seen this, so okay,

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so then I'll just tell you this is interesting. So

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all the seats are in different colors and they do

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it to make it look like the stands are full.

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Oh okay, you know.

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And I was interviewing the NASCAR driver at Rockville and

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he explained it perfectly to me too. He said, like

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you go to a football game, I mean not a

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football game, basketball game, and they'll be like twenty thousand

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people okay here in the States.

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Yeah that.

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That Daytona Speedway holds one hundred thousand people. So he said,

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imagine putting twenty thousand people it would look like the

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place was empty. Yeah, so just the trickery have you know,

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optical illusions, you know. And it's funny you talk about

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the racetrack.

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Like I'm going in a couple of weeks.

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I go over the year.

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I do coverage I download which is also at a

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racetrack in the UK. But I never feel like I'm

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at a racetrack there. I don't even know I'm a

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racetrack except the fact that I know whereas it the

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dayton Speedway. You know, you're playing in the field, in

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the infield of the speedway exactly.

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You can to go around it, right exactly.

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I had to drive on the speedway to get to

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my parking at media. I mean, like I say it, like,

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oh poor me. But I always fanboy out on it

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every time, like I'm driving on the Daytona Speedway.

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Oh man.

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And so let's go back to you know, your newest song,

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rat Torture. Yeah, So, like I said, it is absolutely brutal.

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Tell us about that song, because the first thing I

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think of in that song is, you know, I'm from

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New York City and it's like being in downtown New

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York City that you know you're getting tortured by rats everywhere.

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So you tell us your version, because I know that's.

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Not what it is. No, it's it's just it's just

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a playoff. Words is about like this new age where

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everybody is glued to their to the screens and it

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it feels like some sort of torture mechanism. While there's

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there is a way to escape it and get get

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out of it, but just people are to fixate it

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on the screens that they cannot.

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Oh, I'm telling it for sure. And I was thinking.

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I was thinking, like the rat race.

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That's the pun on the words, because oh my god,

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like social media is so anti social yeah, you know,

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and it is true, like everybody's so addicted in the

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kids are becoming they're addicted from day one, Like you

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can't take that electronic device away from them.

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Yeah, exactly, and it's hard to get again to go

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against it, of course, like like I also, we're now

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doing an interview over a computersh So it's right, it's

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part of society. But just yeah, sometimes you just need

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to realize it and also get your bread out of it.

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I do kind of aware then it's fine in my opinion.

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That's I don't know if it's true or not, but

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I do find when I go to Europe there are

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a lot less addicted than we are. I mean, doesn't

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mean they're not using their devices, but I saw a

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lot more people putting their devices down in public when

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they're with people and hanging out and actually experiencing life,

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whereas here, Yeah, like I'll go out to dinner with

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my kids and grandkids and everybody's.

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On their devices.

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At the dinner table, you know, and it's it's insane,

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but it is also there's, like you said, there's a

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good part. It's a good way for you guys to

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get your music out to a lot more people, you know,

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and a lot more no geographic limitations or anything like that.

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You know.

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We can always talk about what the negative of that is,

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but I'd better focus on the positive.

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And the positive is.

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It gives bands like you to have the kind of

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brutal audience you did at Welcome to Rockville, all these

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thousands of miles away, exactly.

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So it's we're not complaining against that. Obviously, a very

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active online as well, also glued to our screen. Sometimes

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I just need to be aware of it. And in

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some way, of course, you hope that this gets better,

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and this would have been better or otherwise. But yeah,

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but what's what's the other alternative?

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Right?

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I know it's here.

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I you know.

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I did tell my youngest daughter one time. I was like,

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you know, some days I just want to gain my car,

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drive down the road, throw my phone, laptop and iPad

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out the window, and keep driving. Yeah, she goes to me, Dad,

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who are you kidding? You're just as addicted as a bay.

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I'm like, you're right, But I also do remember a

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time when I didn't have any of these devices, and

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I think it was a lot better and a lot

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less stressful.

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Yeah, exactly. Yeah, sometimes you just have some of these days,

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and that's that's where the music came from.

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There you go.

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So you're located in Rotterdam. That's your favorite part about Rotterdam.

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I think it's a very new new city because we

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got the bomb by the Germans. Yes, so it's it's

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it's literally a newer city, but you can feel it,

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like and how the people are like, it's very yeah,

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more futuristic or something compared to other Dutch cities where

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very much yeah, going more with the trends and uh,

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keeping up with the technology. So I like it because

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it's not that touristy as well, compared to, for example, Amsterdam. Yeah,

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so just for for us, it definitely feels like it

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feels like.

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A well I think with the I think except for

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the architecture, Amsterdam is more like an americancy than Dutch Sea.

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And in fact, funny thing is we're talking about it.

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You know, I've tried to learn Dutch and then people

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and some people said to me, well, if you speak

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Dutch in Amsterdam, people are gonna look at you weird.

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Yeah.

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I thought that was so weird. It's like it's like, say,

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where I live.

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If you speak English, you're gonna look weird. You know,

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but that is true in Miami. If you're speaking English,

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they will look at you k weird in Miami. But

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you know, I was telling you before the interview, and

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so true. Like I was so surprised because when I

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went to Rotterdam for the first time, you know, you

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expect things when you're in Europe, everything's to look European,

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and you know, you go to Amsterdam as all the

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ancient European architecture. But like you said, the Germans bombed Rotterdam,

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so they were forced to rebuild the whole thing. And

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I drove in at night and listen, I've been to

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some of the most beautiful cities in the world, and

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I'm born in New York.

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I was in Awe.

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When I was driving up, I was like, oh my god,

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this is like the most beautiful city I've ever seen.

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And it was very modern, it was very full modern,

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just such a different vibe than Amsterdam. I did like

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it better because it was less touristy like when I

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go to the Netherlands. Like even when I was saying

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I was staying in Amsterdam for a couple months, I

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wasn't living in Amsterdam. I was living in Amsterden because

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because I want to live with the locals, not in

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the tourist area. And you know, so Rotterdam, I really

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loved it and I had a lot of fun there,

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and I also think it's kind of good in a

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way to I mean, things have changed because we have

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it partially legal here in the States, but the fact

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that even though you had places that were dispensaries, what

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we call dispensaries in Rotterdam, it wasn't so obvious. It

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wasn't like Americans going to Rotterdam so they could go

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smoke pot exactly, you know, and that's basically what Amsterdam

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always went it was when I first went there, it

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was like it was just a bunch of Americans, like

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I remember Gang Friendly with a lot of Dutch people there,

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and they could give two craps back. And I think

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that is the benefit of thatvent legal because with it legal,

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you don't really care so much, so you know, you're

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not going to make a big deal about it. But

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I love your culture there. I love I love like

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everything about your country and now I have a new

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band that I love in that country.

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So is that the was that?

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What was that the first time you did a Danny

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Winter Festival?

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Yeah, yeah, that's the first one.

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So we'll have to see you come a lot more then. Okay,

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I'm glad that you were there. What else do you

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have going on this year in twenty twenty.

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Six, Yes, I'm in two weeks we start or European

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Summer festivals. So we got a couple of big ones

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on there like Ross Pop and uh Jer on air.

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That's an action first so we're very much excited for that. Yeah,

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later in the year, hopefully something in the US again.

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Yeah, And you did Sonic Temple too, right, No, we didn't.

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Oh what were you supposed to perform at Sonic Temple?

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We hope to do it, but we did it. We

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didn't get invited. You know.

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That's so funny because I didn't see it on the lineup. Uh,

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And I knew I didn't cover it this year because

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they didn't have any interviews. But then when I was

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like googling, it said that Google said you did play there,

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So that's pretty funny.

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So what we did is we did We did a

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run with in Flames and Throne Rocord to Rockville and

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they were playing Sonic Temple.

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So maybe Google just things since they're on tour together.

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They were playing there too, literally said your pand played there.

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I'm like, I don't remember seeing them on the lineup. No,

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you know, but if you're gonna pick one of the two,

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I think Rockville was the better one. And we had

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more people at Rockville too, So on one festival because

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I do a bunch of them over there that I

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haven't done yet. Of doing, I want to find out

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if you've ever played Dynamo. Have you played Dynamo Festival?

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Yeah, of course, that's that's a famous Dutch one. Yeah,

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used to be a really big one back in the

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nineteen nineties. Too big for the Netherlands even that's why

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they eventually canceled it because yeah, people were struck stuck

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in traffic for days, or the infrastructure of the Netherlands,

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since we since we were such a small country, wasn't

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made for such a youag festival.

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That's why I don't drive when I'm in another Wins band,

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because it's so easy to get everywhere without carr and

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it's so difficult.

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Yeah. In fact, it's.

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They they resurrected the Dynamo Festival again, but now it's

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in a in the is Hockey Stadium, so it's they

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cannot scale it bigger than the confines of the of

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the ice Hockey Stadium. But it's a nice one since

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they put the stages on both ends of the of

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the ring. So once once one band finished and you

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just walked to the other side, I think, and what's.

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The next band?

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Nice?

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Well yeah, see that's not so easy to say it, Rockville,

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because to walk to the other side is like.

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Yeah, like walking to Denmark, you know.

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Uh.

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I get like when I do a lot of festivals,

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I get like eighty miles walking in a whole weekend.

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You know, Like I also do Hellfest. Oh my god, that.

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Festival is huge. I love that. I love that festival.

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It's huge, and it's it's just insane, like the decorations

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there and what you know. It It is amazing how

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a lot of your European festivals they kind of like

465
00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:26.839
start really small and then they just end up like

466
00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:31.960
owning the whole property or city, Like you know, Healfest

467
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:36.920
pretty much owns Clisson and you got Vakin which pretty

468
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:41.119
much own that's its own city. And you know, it

469
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:45.680
is pretty amazing not only how they're run, but how

470
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:49.039
they've built these things from like nothing, from like little

471
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:50.240
teeny festivals.

472
00:28:50.599 --> 00:28:53.000
But that's that's also the nice thing about it. Like

473
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:57.079
it starts around the small town and that whole town

474
00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:01.480
will just live up to that festival whole year, and

475
00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:05.359
once it starts growing, they really get an attachment, yeah,

476
00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:11.480
the festival. So nobody of a neighbor's scarish that the

477
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:14.960
festival's there, because it's just that's their life. Basically, they're

478
00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:16.720
proud of it. I see.

479
00:29:16.759 --> 00:29:19.440
I love that attitude because you don't usually have that

480
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:23.960
attitude here in the States, Like even in the town

481
00:29:24.119 --> 00:29:26.079
next to me where I live in, they built this

482
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:29.839
whole area and this little amphitheater for bands to play,

483
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:35.440
but they built apartments there, and the people they ended

484
00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:38.680
up not using the amphitheater because all the people live

485
00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:42.559
in apartments complained, and I'm like, you know, the ampitheater

486
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:44.720
is going to be there, why you get the apartment there.

487
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.680
I would get the apartment there just because i'd have

488
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:51.839
a good view, you know, but and hear the music,

489
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:53.279
But I don't get it.

490
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:56.359
Like that's why I see too, Like.

491
00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:01.000
Here in the States, people will comp playing about every

492
00:30:01.079 --> 00:30:04.039
little thing I have festival, and I don't hear anybody

493
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:07.160
complain when I do the European or the UK festivals,

494
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.480
Like they're all and they're under some really bad conditions

495
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:17.000
sometimes and they're just like the culture of loving this

496
00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:19.799
stuff and loving the music. We're just talking about this

497
00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:21.839
in the last in the last interview, I was doing

498
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:26.039
like there are a lot of bands that were big

499
00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:29.759
in LA in the eighties that I thought were gone forever,

500
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:32.799
and it turned out they were just in Europe all

501
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:37.440
these years I was playing at the European festivals because

502
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:41.240
it's like you turn on the radio in Europe and

503
00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:45.839
it's like eighties radio, you know, and it's so wild.

504
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:53.680
So, speaking of eighties, where would you say your.

505
00:30:55.640 --> 00:30:59.799
Influences first came from to be it and to do

506
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:01.599
the type of music you do now.

507
00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:08.319
Yeah, it's a bit hard to say it like that

508
00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:12.200
we refer to the eighties because we're we're far away

509
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:12.880
from the eighties.

510
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:15.480
But that's why, you know why I said that.

511
00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:19.400
I said that because I saw Possessed in the very beginning,

512
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:22.960
and I think they pretty much started most anything that

513
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:23.839
had death in it.

514
00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:28.319
Yeah, of course it's a I'm really I'm really old

515
00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:31.559
school that metal guys, So that's where it came from

516
00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:36.599
for me. But yeah, I think I think mostly for

517
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:41.119
us we started back in twenty twelve. Mostly for us

518
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:44.920
came from the first wave of dead core, which started

519
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:49.440
around two thousand and six, two thousand and seven, and

520
00:31:50.759 --> 00:31:55.319
back then it grew out to a nice size, but

521
00:31:55.480 --> 00:32:02.200
it's stagnated. Around twenty twelve came became a bit more

522
00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:10.119
uh clustered, and that's also when downtemple dead core emerged.

523
00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:15.920
And for for us, as Europeans, especially dark Dutch people

524
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:20.640
were were a couple of years behind in our music genres.

525
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:26.680
So back when everybody here in the Netherlands was still

526
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:31.759
playing melodic ardcore because that's what was in in the

527
00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:35.519
US in two thousand and five or something, we were

528
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:42.039
picking up Deadcore and downtowp Downtemple. Deadcore as basically the

529
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:45.640
only band in the Netherlands and we got we got

530
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:51.519
booed a lot. So we exactly we directly started focusing

531
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:55.960
on going abroad, playing in playing in the UK because

532
00:32:56.720 --> 00:33:01.480
UK is is a bit more I had of the

533
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:05.480
of the mainland Europe in the music daste, so there

534
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:10.359
we got accepted and that's that's how it grew from there.

535
00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:14.559
So yeah, I think the main influences are really just

536
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:19.680
the old school death score of the first generation nice.

537
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:24.440
So saying that something popped into my head that I

538
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:27.000
wouldn't have even think to ask Toll while you were

539
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:30.039
talking about it, especially because they played at Rockville too.

540
00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:34.000
What's your opinion of like Bring Me to Rise and

541
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:37.599
originally being death core and now they're like, you know,

542
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:42.400
they're they're not what they originally were. They've evolved and

543
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:45.960
they're definitely far from death core now in some respects.

544
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:48.000
I mean, I love them so I'm not throwing a

545
00:33:48.200 --> 00:33:50.759
shade because I love them, but I'm not. I'm not

546
00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:54.519
wanting the original bring Me fans, Like if I was,

547
00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:57.640
i'd probably think differently. Just like I saw Metallica's first

548
00:33:57.680 --> 00:33:59.960
show ever when the Black album came out, I was like,

549
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:01.119
fucking posers.

550
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:02.400
I'm never listening to them again.

551
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:09.880
Yes, in my opinion, like Bring Me the Horizon is

552
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:15.760
an o G first generation death COO band because their

553
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:22.559
first album and uh Suicide Silence the Glansing album, those

554
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:25.119
two albums in two thousand and seven were really my thing.

555
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:32.880
Am I like to go to deathcore albums? It they

556
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:37.199
started evolving over the years. They did it pretty slow,

557
00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:41.440
but still they went far away from the from the

558
00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:46.440
dead core genre. So for me personally, I just didn't

559
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:50.960
keep track with it right just because yeah I did.

560
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:55.079
I didn't feel like their new music. I wasn't. I

561
00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:57.719
wasn't hating on them though, Like I don't think they're

562
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:00.760
they're poses because of it, and I would I would

563
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:02.840
still go to a show hoping that they play some

564
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:06.679
of their old stuff. But I think for them it

565
00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:07.760
worked out really.

566
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:10.880
Nice and they do have an amazing live show yea,

567
00:35:11.239 --> 00:35:11.559
and they.

568
00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:14.880
Got they got so big with it. And also I

569
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.280
think that it's just good for for dead core in

570
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:25.159
general because then the new generation of people getting loving

571
00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:28.639
Bring Me the Rise and will go to their older

572
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:31.400
albums and discover that they also got like a heavy

573
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:34.519
side and bring them into the heavy music. So I

574
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:38.719
think it's good for for us as a as a

575
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:42.239
genre as dead core that bands like Bringing the Horizon

576
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:46.039
are there to draw in the new kids, we discover

577
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:50.400
their old stuff. And I think especially now since Bring

578
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:53.880
Me the Rison is is going back to their roots

579
00:35:54.079 --> 00:36:00.519
and doing a show with the first album, so there's

580
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:05.840
still activity promoting it and nice to us as a genre.

581
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:09.639
Well, I love that answer because I agree with you

582
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:12.840
a million percent, And I have two responses to that.

583
00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:16.719
One is, you know, if it weren't for Metallica maybe

584
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:20.360
doing that black album, who knows, if we'd have two

585
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:23.159
hundred and ten thousand people that welcome to rock Pille

586
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:28.079
for metal, you know, like days And it's based on

587
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:31.199
what you just said, you know, it's like, you know

588
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:33.679
you're bringing new people, but then you go to the

589
00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:36.719
back catalog and that that is what happened with me

590
00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:40.760
would Bring Me to Horizon because I saw them for

591
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:44.920
the first time several years ago at a Danny Wimmer festival.

592
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:48.760
I didn't know them, and it was when That's the

593
00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:53.480
spirit came out and I was like, oh my god,

594
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:56.159
I love them because they had such a great live show.

595
00:36:56.719 --> 00:36:59.480
But to your point, that made.

596
00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:03.239
Me go back to their through their catalog to the beginning,

597
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:07.239
and I really loved their old stuff. So it was

598
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:11.320
like I am that example of you know, I wasn't

599
00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:14.119
inn og bring me the Rizon fan, so I didn't

600
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:17.920
have that, you know, oh man, they changed to they

601
00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:21.079
are thing. I had more of like, wow, they were

602
00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:23.280
really good live. Now let me check out the rest

603
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:24.000
of their music.

604
00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:30.280
Yeah exactly. Well, I even have to with some just

605
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:34.599
schedule friends who who aren't really that much into metal,

606
00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:36.519
but I do like bringing me to Rizon and they're

607
00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:39.599
always like, yeah, but I do love the old album

608
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:44.239
and just right, they like the newest, newer stuff, they

609
00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:49.400
can just accept the older stuff as well. And that's

610
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:52.679
the way I also expect accept what kind of music

611
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:53.639
that I'm making.

612
00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:58.599
Yeah exactly, And that's that is the point there, And

613
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:00.960
you know all we did make good point. In an

614
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:03.760
interview I heard him talking on where he said, why

615
00:38:03.800 --> 00:38:05.840
do I want to write the same song over and

616
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:09.159
over again, and I could see that. You know, like

617
00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:11.519
an artist you're doing for that may years, you want

618
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:13.639
to just keep writing the exact same thing over and

619
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:14.159
over again.

620
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:14.880
You kind of want to.

621
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:18.480
The whole thing of metal is experimentation, right, so you

622
00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:19.880
want to experiment what you can do.

623
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:25.039
It has two signs of the coin, to be honest, like,

624
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:28.840
I definitely agree to that. Like with metal, you can

625
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:32.800
just do whatever you want, but it goes both ways,

626
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:35.320
like for example, with us now and that's that's coming

627
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:39.280
back to your earlier question about about their new single

628
00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:43.800
and or previous singles as well, like or or for

629
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:50.599
first album was just really raw and unpolished. Then we

630
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:55.400
started experimenting polishing it up more with the previous albums.

631
00:38:56.119 --> 00:39:00.199
But now we're more like, yeah, let's let's just not

632
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:03.480
make it too polished. We we wanted rowst off again

633
00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:06.599
like on the first album, and that's that's that's what

634
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:09.119
you get now with this, with these newer singles, you

635
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:15.280
get the rollness of a first album. We careless what

636
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:19.440
other people think in a sense that we just want

637
00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:22.400
to do what we love and also feel like that

638
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:25.519
if if, if we do what we love. We will

639
00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:30.239
still have fans, We will still have people that like

640
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:32.920
us just because they see that we perform something that

641
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:35.159
we love to perform.

642
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:40.159
Yeah, totally, and I agree with that million percent because

643
00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:43.079
if you don't love it, how can you expect other

644
00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:45.559
people to love it? Like and people can tell when

645
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:49.480
you're just forcing it or if you're doing because that's who.

646
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:54.559
You are exactly. Yeah, that's that's the typical sell out.

647
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:56.159
Bend, right right.

648
00:39:56.760 --> 00:39:59.280
But you know to your point what you're saying, and

649
00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:01.880
I think that holds true to what you said about

650
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:04.039
bringing the Rising going back and they're going to play

651
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:07.760
their full album or even Metallica because some of their

652
00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:12.719
newest stuff is to me, reminds me of the Kill

653
00:40:12.719 --> 00:40:16.039
Them All days, you know. And so the way I

654
00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:19.039
kind of put it now as an adult exposed to

655
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:24.159
acting like a teenager, is well, maybe they did it

656
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:29.719
a certain way for a while, but now that enabled

657
00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:32.480
them to go back to their roots and people want

658
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:35.440
to listen to it, and now you've reached the masses

659
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:38.559
and now they'll hear it because otherwise how many people

660
00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:39.719
have heard Kill Them All?

661
00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:45.440
Exactly? Yeah, So it's it's it's it's maybe part of

662
00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:47.760
the evolution of a of a smart band.

663
00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:49.639
There it is, there, it is.

664
00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:52.760
Well, you guys are a smart band because you're doing

665
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:56.880
exactly that. And you killed it at Welcome to Rockville

666
00:40:57.559 --> 00:41:00.880
and uh, you know this new song.

667
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:04.760
Oh my god, it's just it's just rat torture.

668
00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:05.039
Man.

669
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:11.360
Yeah, I wonder if you could do like science experiments

670
00:41:11.400 --> 00:41:14.800
and put rats in like a lab and play your

671
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:18.440
song to them and see if they feel tortured by it.

672
00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:26.880
That's a whole different story. But on the other I

673
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:32.519
am a scientist actually working in cancer research. We are

674
00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:37.280
putting rats to the test, but that's with cancer medicine,

675
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:39.159
not with a music there you go.

676
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:41.199
Yeah, one of my best bros.

677
00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:45.440
He's also a scientist that's working on proteins to cure cancer.

678
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:49.320
So man, you guys are doing great work for sure.

679
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:54.480
See you're helping the world with these diseases, and then

680
00:41:54.519 --> 00:41:57.840
you're helping the world with mental issues with your music

681
00:41:57.920 --> 00:41:59.679
because music is the best therapy.

682
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:01.920
I agree. Yeah.

683
00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:05.719
And the last thing is tell everybody, first of all,

684
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:10.800
how to connect you on socials and more importantly, had

685
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:13.679
to buy your merch a because they can't listen to

686
00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:15.599
my show. And let's say buy your merch because it's

687
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:18.719
the only way bands get the next gig nowadays. B

688
00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:22.480
I was looking through your merch store. I was like, man,

689
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.280
you have a lot of badass merch.

690
00:42:26.840 --> 00:42:29.000
Yeah, we really love a merch game.

691
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:32.239
Oh my god, some of it's so cool.

692
00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:37.400
Yeah, well you can get it on a distantofficial dot com.

693
00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:42.239
I have to ship everything from air fio that we

694
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:45.639
do ship it from the Netherlands, and I think that

695
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:48.840
that's also the best way to stay connected besides just

696
00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:52.639
the general Instagram and Facebook.

697
00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:54.599
Nice.

698
00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:57.440
And I also have to ask you, okay because I

699
00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:01.159
can't see clearly, but behind you, is that all your

700
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:03.199
like artist passes from your gigs?

701
00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:06.320
Yeah? Exactly, nice section.

702
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:08.840
I love how you did that.

703
00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:12.199
Like, I have all my credentials, but they're like stuffed

704
00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:14.079
in a bag and a drawer somewhere.

705
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:15.239
I like what you did there.

706
00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:18.880
That's a waste. I love looking at them and just

707
00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:22.800
having a glimpse of them just gives you motivation.

708
00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:27.239
Yeah, totally, That's why I'm seeing man like, hmm, maybe

709
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that's what I should do in my studio with all

710
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of you.

711
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I love it. Well, you guys are badass.

712
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Everybody's got to check you out they got to buy

713
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:40.679
your merch and definitely look forward to seeing a lot

714
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:44.000
more of you at the US festivals and I hope

715
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:45.960
I catch you at a European festival too.

716
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Yeah, hopefully without a dinner storm this time.

717
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And I know, right, I know right, we don't want that,

718
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but you know it's part of it though, right, you

719
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got you got to weather the storm and when you're

720
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me ahead for sure checking you. Thanks a lot for

721
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being on the Adventures of pipe Man.

722
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Thanks very much.

723
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Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipemin on

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w for c u I Radio.