May 23, 2026

DISTANT at Welcome to Rockville 2026 - PipemanRadio Interview

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Season 20

The Dutch deathcore band DISTANT played at the 2026 Welcome to Rockville festival in Daytona Beach, Florida. They performed on Sunday, May 10th, appearing on the Vortex Stage at 1:35 p.m.

DISTANT is a 4-piece crushing DOWNTEMPO DEATHCORE band hailing from Rotterdam, The Netherlands and Bratislava, Slovakia.

Finishing up our USA tour and new single Rat Torture releases May 21.

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Hi, you love one to censure.

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Wow for you you.

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Oh my god, oh my god.

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This is the pipe Man here on the Avengers Pipe

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Man W four C Y Radio, and I'm here back

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in South Florida.

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I was at Welcome to Rockville.

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I got evacuated three days in a row. One of

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those days I was supposed to have an interview with

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this really badass band and it just didn't happen. Nature

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decided it was not in the cards. But nature decided

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it is in the cards today. So we are here

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with Elmer from distant.

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How are you.

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I'm good, I'm beck. I'm safe now, so I.

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Know, And we're actually kind of lucky when we scheduled

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this because I wasn't surprised about Rockville. Okay, I've been

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to Rockville since like twenty thirteen, and I think there's

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only one.

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Time I was not evacuated.

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But it's like that here during this time of year,

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it's like three four o'clock, three to five, you can

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generally set your alarm clock that it's gonna be a

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thunderstorm with sometimes badass lightning and a serious torrential downpour.

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And as you saw, that was very true at Welcome

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to Rockville.

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Oh yeah, Well I was really surprised, to be honest,

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because I'm used to the European festivals and when something

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like this happens, it's just chaos. Yeah, it's cancelation, so

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festival and it doesn't continue. But it seems to like,

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seems like a smooth procedure and welcome to rock fill

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way to just continue again.

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Well, the Wimmor festivals have a lot of experience with

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evacuations because I've had a lot of them over the

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heres at different ones. But I think the way they

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did this year was really good, Like they really honed

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in on because really no bands really got cut.

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There were only two bands that didn't play.

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One that's because they had to go on to their

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next gig, you know, and that happens, you know, like

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you're sometimes you're on timeline, like and you're supposed to

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get on load out like as soon as you're you know,

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done with your gig, and then another one she just disappeared.

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So she probably figured too, like you would think like, oh,

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well it's over now, Like.

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I bet you that's what happened.

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She probably was like, oh it's gonna be all canceled

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altogether now. But what's cool too is Wimmer always has

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a good connection with the local law enforcement and first responders.

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So I remember, like several years ago at Rock on

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the Range, what was Sonic It was either Sonic Temple

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or Rock on the Range. But Metallica was supposed to

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headline and we and there was a massive storm. We

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got evacuated, and people were in the Facebook groups threatening

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that they were going to riot if Metallica didn't play.

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And then where it was had you know the you know,

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the noise ordinance, so you couldn't play a past a

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certain time.

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No matter what.

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Wimmer actually got the law enforcement in the area to

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extend the curfew so Mentallica could play. They played at

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one in the morning, which would be normal if we

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were at Hellfest or someplace like that, but in the

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States it's not always normal to be able to play at.

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One in the morning.

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I think it would suck being a band though, right,

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Like you're supposed to play at a certain time, and

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you go and you're all pumped up to play, and

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then you got wait till one in the morning.

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Like you're all deflated by that time.

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Right, especially if you have to sit around and wait.

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Right, that's the point. If you're doing something, it's one thing.

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But if you're sitting around and waiting, man, it's rough

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to get through right there, especially when you're in the

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headline band. But I got to check out your set

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at Rockville, and oh my god, you definitely represented the

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Northern European area very well because you guys were brutal.

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And I say that in the best of ways. Yeah,

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well that's what we like, right, I mean I I

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often think that bands in your part of the world

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are so brutal and so great because the weather sucks

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so bad most of the time, so you got nothing

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better to do but to play your mutes.

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Well that's how it feels, yeah, especially coming to the US,

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where the weather is always nice just wherever you.

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Go, right except when you're evacuated from a festival.

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That's still the weather is nice.

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Like it's yeah, exactly. Well, I gotta tell you something

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I don't know. I'm some kind more on because I've

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been going to your country a lot for the past

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thirty years, and for some reason, I don't know what

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kind of idiot I am. I almost always except one time,

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have gone during the winter and that decision, Oh my god,

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and then the last time was okay. I spent two

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months in Amsterdam, and then I spent another couple of

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weeks and then huh, but you know how Amsterdam is,

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It's already built on water. So for the three months

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that I was in the Netherlands that year a couple

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of years ago, I saw a total of three hours.

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Suddenly and it was freezing. Imagine I live in South Florida.

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You know, I'm used to cold.

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I'm from New York and New Jersey, but now I'm

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used to Florida.

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But that was bad enough.

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But walking through Amsterdam and I'm gonna type that I

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won't let that stuff stop me. And I was walking

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every day through Amsterdam in that misty, freezing rain as

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my least favorite part of winter anywhere, you know, like

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they have that New Jersey and I'm like, I'd rather

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it would snow, to be honest, you know than that

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exok me, freezing misty rain. I was cure the winter then,

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like I was like, you know what, I don't think

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I'm coming back here in the winter from now on,

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I'm going to be smart and due to summer.

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Way better.

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That's why we always hope to get to the us

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in the winter, especially to Florida. So we've been looking

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out to flying over for the last off year. Of course. Yeah,

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just get the winter, I know, right.

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And it's like I've concerned several times moving the Netherlands

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because I love it so much there. But now I'm

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convinced that if I do, it's not going to be

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I'm gonna like take the winter off, like I won't

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live there in the winter, you know. But I mean

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otherwise it's a beautiful country, and it is really beautiful

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in the summer. I don't know why I always went

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in the winter, because it is really beautiful in the summer.

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But yeah, I love your performance, not only at Rockville,

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but I love your newest single because it is so

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freaking brutal, Like I just.

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Was.

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I was listening to it before the interview again, just

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to pump up for the interview. Nice, So tell us

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a little bit about for the listeners that don't know

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you guys. I know it's funny. I'm not a genre person,

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but I kind of laughed in one of the descriptions

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I saw that said a four piece crushing down Temple

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Death Corps band, Yeah, and I was like, that's.

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Pretty cool because, like a lot of times in my interviews.

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At the festivals, because I do festivals all over the US,

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UK and Europe, because it's so stupid nowadays with the

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micro genres and the subgenres that a lot of times

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when I have somebody an interview, I'm like, well, if

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you had your own genre to your own band was in,

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what would you call it? And then I saw this,

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I'm like, man, that would be the answer right there,

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crushing down temple death core, Like I like that as

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a good ring to it. Yeah, So tell us a

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little bit about your Well, let's go first, let's talk

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a little bit about the experience of Rockville for you,

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Like you're used to doing the European festivals.

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US festivals used to be shit.

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Compared to European festivals, and I think we're kind of taken,

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you know, you know, we're taking some tips from the

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European festivals. And now that you played Welcome to Rockville,

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how do you feel about that statement I just made.

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Do you think it was you know, as well run

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and as cool as a European festival.

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Well, to be honest, I absolutely agree with it. Like

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I was not expecting this and this not in a

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bad way, but in a good way. Yeah, as I

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had to hope to be honest, that it would be

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a totally different experience to play a festival and in

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the US. But it felt very European like were organized. Yeah,

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just in general. It might have might have been just

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for the for the weather and the thunderstorm shin out

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of the fix, but otherwise I would have thought.

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That was I was in Europe, right, And see, I

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think that's where the Wimmer festivals are so great because

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he recognized what Europe has with music festivals that we

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didn't have like our US festivals before. Wimmer was more

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like carnivals or fairs than music festivals, is the best

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way I could put it.

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Like it was just like.

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It wasn't well organized, it was crappy food. It was

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like just this, for lack of a better way of

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putting in a ship show and Danny Wimmer just runs

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a well oiled machine, which means leads me to the

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next question, how did you feel Damny Wimmer treated you

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as an artist?

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Because I think that's so important.

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Yeah, I agree to that, And actually there was was

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really well organized. So from from the start where everything

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was advanced properly, but also to to just the catering

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and the and the backstages again, yeah, very very you

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being experience where it's just super organized. There's there's nothing

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you can complain about even and that's that's that's a

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bit of different compared to or general US experience where

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for shows in general, you get a buyout, which means

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you have to get your own food. Yeah. Really pretty

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hard in the US because there there isn't any food

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shops around the corner, so you have to order order food.

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So you're Yeah, you just suffer on your health because

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you can't get a proper meal, you can't eat dinner

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at the proper time. And here at this festival, there's

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plenty of healthy food all day long.

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So I love hearing that really because it's so important.

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The reason I think it's so important, first of all,

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as an artist, you need a stress free and experience,

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you know, and like nothing's worth that showing up to

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a festival. You have problems with catering, you have problems

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with loading, you have problems with soundcheck, and it just

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puts your emotions and your mind in the wrong place

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to be prepared to do a gig.

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Yeah, to be honest, I think I think that's help.

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That helps a lot, and I don't think you should

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you should budget on it because if if the ideals

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feels comfortable, does have any complaints about anything, then just

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in general, the performance will be good if you're there

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on stage and your angry and thirsty.

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Performance exactly exactly. And so I think that's where Danny

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Wimmer gets it. He gets that one of the most

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important parts is the artist, because if you please the artist,

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I think you're gonna please the audience at the same

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time exactly.

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The artist is gonna give them their best show, and

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everybody is going to be happy that they've seen so

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many bands at their best.

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Right.

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So what did also feel like to play at one

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of the most famous race tracks in the whole world.

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It's felt a bit surreal, just just because I would

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all look like for us as Europeans, we're not very

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familiar with with Nascar. I'm a Formula one guy, so

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I would have hoped to be in Miami on the

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on the F one track. This track does look way cooler,

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to be honest.

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Oh my god, It's like it's so much fun riding

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on the track too, and that wall it.

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Doesn't look like that on TV.

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Like that wall is insane that they have to drive

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around they have to hit that wall that corner at

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eighty miles per hour in order to not.

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Fall off the wall. Yeah, exactly, that's insane, you know.

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And it's like, okay, so do you remember seeing I

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have a trivia question for you, but we're not there,

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so you might not remember it. Asked all the bands,

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do you remember seeing the seats in the stands, not

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where the audience was, but for the raceway, and they

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were all like multicolor seats. I haven't seen this, so okay,

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so then I'll just tell you this is interesting. So

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all the seats are in different colors and they do

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it to make it look like the stands are full.

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Oh okay, you know.

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And I was interviewing the NASCAR driver at Rockville and

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he explained it perfectly to me too. He said, like

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you go to a football game, I mean not a

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football game, basketball game, and they'll be like twenty thousand

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people okay here in the States.

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Yeah that.

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That Daytona Speedway holds one hundred thousand people. So he said,

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imagine putting twenty thousand people it would look like the

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place was empty. Yeah, so just the trickery have you know,

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optical illusions, you know. And it's funny you talk about

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the racetrack.

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Like I'm going in a couple of weeks.

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I go over the year.

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I do coverage I download which is also at a

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racetrack in the UK. But I never feel like I'm

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at a racetrack there. I don't even know I'm a

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racetrack except the fact that I know whereas it the

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dayton Speedway. You know, you're playing in the field, in

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the infield of the speedway exactly.

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You can to go around it, right exactly.

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I had to drive on the speedway to get to

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my parking at media. I mean, like I say it, like,

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oh poor me. But I always fanboy out on it

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every time, like I'm driving on the Daytona Speedway.

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Oh man.

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And so let's go back to you know, your newest song,

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rat Torture. Yeah, So, like I said, it is absolutely brutal.

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Tell us about that song, because the first thing I

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think of in that song is, you know, I'm from

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New York City and it's like being in downtown New

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York City that you know you're getting tortured by rats everywhere.

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So you tell us your version, because I know that's.

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Not what it is. No, it's it's just it's just

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a playoff. Words is about like this new age where

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everybody is glued to their to the screens and it

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it feels like some sort of torture mechanism. While there's

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there is a way to escape it and get get

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out of it, but just people are to fixate it

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on the screens that they cannot.

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Oh, I'm telling it for sure. And I was thinking.

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I was thinking, like the rat race.

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That's the pun on the words, because oh my god,

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like social media is so anti social yeah, you know,

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and it is true, like everybody's so addicted in the

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kids are becoming they're addicted from day one, Like you

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can't take that electronic device away from them.

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Yeah, exactly, and it's hard to get again to go

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against it, of course, like like I also, we're now

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doing an interview over a computersh So it's right, it's

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part of society. But just yeah, sometimes you just need

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to realize it and also get your bread out of it.

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I do kind of aware then it's fine in my opinion.

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That's I don't know if it's true or not, but

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I do find when I go to Europe there are

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a lot less addicted than we are. I mean, doesn't

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mean they're not using their devices, but I saw a

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lot more people putting their devices down in public when

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they're with people and hanging out and actually experiencing life,

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whereas here, Yeah, like I'll go out to dinner with

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my kids and grandkids and everybody's.

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On their devices.

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At the dinner table, you know, and it's it's insane,

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but it is also there's, like you said, there's a

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good part. It's a good way for you guys to

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get your music out to a lot more people, you know,

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and a lot more no geographic limitations or anything like that.

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You know.

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We can always talk about what the negative of that is,

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but I'd better focus on the positive.

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And the positive is.

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It gives bands like you to have the kind of

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brutal audience you did at Welcome to Rockville, all these

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thousands of miles away, exactly.

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So it's we're not complaining against that. Obviously, a very

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active online as well, also glued to our screen. Sometimes

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I just need to be aware of it. And in

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some way, of course, you hope that this gets better,

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and this would have been better or otherwise. But yeah,

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but what's what's the other alternative?

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Right?

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I know it's here.

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I you know.

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I did tell my youngest daughter one time. I was like,

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you know, some days I just want to gain my car,

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drive down the road, throw my phone, laptop and iPad

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out the window, and keep driving. Yeah, she goes to me, Dad,

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who are you kidding? You're just as addicted as a bay.

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I'm like, you're right, But I also do remember a

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time when I didn't have any of these devices, and

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I think it was a lot better and a lot

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less stressful.

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Yeah, exactly. Yeah, sometimes you just have some of these days,

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and that's that's where the music came from.

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There you go.

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So you're located in Rotterdam. That's your favorite part about Rotterdam.

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I think it's a very new new city because we

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got the bomb by the Germans. Yes, so it's it's

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it's literally a newer city, but you can feel it,

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like and how the people are like, it's very yeah,

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more futuristic or something compared to other Dutch cities where

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very much yeah, going more with the trends and uh,

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keeping up with the technology. So I like it because

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it's not that touristy as well, compared to, for example, Amsterdam. Yeah,

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so just for for us, it definitely feels like it

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feels like.

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A well I think with the I think except for

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the architecture, Amsterdam is more like an americancy than Dutch Sea.

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And in fact, funny thing is we're talking about it.

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You know, I've tried to learn Dutch and then people

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and some people said to me, well, if you speak

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Dutch in Amsterdam, people are gonna look at you weird.

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Yeah.

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I thought that was so weird. It's like it's like, say,

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where I live.

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If you speak English, you're gonna look weird. You know,

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but that is true in Miami. If you're speaking English,

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they will look at you k weird in Miami. But

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you know, I was telling you before the interview, and

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so true. Like I was so surprised because when I

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went to Rotterdam for the first time, you know, you

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expect things when you're in Europe, everything's to look European,

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and you know, you go to Amsterdam as all the

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ancient European architecture. But like you said, the Germans bombed Rotterdam,

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so they were forced to rebuild the whole thing. And

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I drove in at night and listen, I've been to

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some of the most beautiful cities in the world, and

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I'm born in New York.

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I was in Awe.

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When I was driving up, I was like, oh my god,

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this is like the most beautiful city I've ever seen.

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And it was very modern, it was very full modern,

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just such a different vibe than Amsterdam. I did like

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it better because it was less touristy like when I

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go to the Netherlands. Like even when I was saying

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I was staying in Amsterdam for a couple months, I

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wasn't living in Amsterdam. I was living in Amsterden because

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because I want to live with the locals, not in

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the tourist area. And you know, so Rotterdam, I really

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loved it and I had a lot of fun there,

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and I also think it's kind of good in a

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way to I mean, things have changed because we have

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it partially legal here in the States, but the fact

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that even though you had places that were dispensaries, what

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we call dispensaries in Rotterdam, it wasn't so obvious. It

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wasn't like Americans going to Rotterdam so they could go

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smoke pot exactly, you know, and that's basically what Amsterdam

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always went it was when I first went there, it

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was like it was just a bunch of Americans, like

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I remember Gang Friendly with a lot of Dutch people there,

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and they could give two craps back. And I think

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that is the benefit of thatvent legal because with it legal,

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you don't really care so much, so you know, you're

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not going to make a big deal about it. But

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I love your culture there. I love I love like

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everything about your country and now I have a new

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band that I love in that country.

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So is that the was that?

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What was that the first time you did a Danny

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Winter Festival?

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Yeah, yeah, that's the first one.

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So we'll have to see you come a lot more then. Okay,

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I'm glad that you were there. What else do you

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have going on this year in twenty twenty.

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Six, Yes, I'm in two weeks we start or European

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Summer festivals. So we got a couple of big ones

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on there like Ross Pop and uh Jer on air.

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That's an action first so we're very much excited for that. Yeah,

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later in the year, hopefully something in the US again.

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Yeah, And you did Sonic Temple too, right, No, we didn't.

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Oh what were you supposed to perform at Sonic Temple?

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We hope to do it, but we did it. We

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didn't get invited. You know.

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That's so funny because I didn't see it on the lineup. Uh,

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And I knew I didn't cover it this year because

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they didn't have any interviews. But then when I was

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like googling, it said that Google said you did play there,

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So that's pretty funny.

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So what we did is we did We did a

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run with in Flames and Throne Rocord to Rockville and

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they were playing Sonic Temple.

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So maybe Google just things since they're on tour together.

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They were playing there too, literally said your pand played there.

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I'm like, I don't remember seeing them on the lineup. No,

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you know, but if you're gonna pick one of the two,

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I think Rockville was the better one. And we had

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more people at Rockville too, So on one festival because

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I do a bunch of them over there that I

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haven't done yet. Of doing, I want to find out

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if you've ever played Dynamo. Have you played Dynamo Festival?

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Yeah, of course, that's that's a famous Dutch one. Yeah,

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used to be a really big one back in the

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nineteen nineties. Too big for the Netherlands even that's why

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they eventually canceled it because yeah, people were struck stuck

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in traffic for days, or the infrastructure of the Netherlands,

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since we since we were such a small country, wasn't

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made for such a youag festival.

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That's why I don't drive when I'm in another Wins band,

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because it's so easy to get everywhere without carr and

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it's so difficult.

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Yeah. In fact, it's.

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They they resurrected the Dynamo Festival again, but now it's

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in a in the is Hockey Stadium, so it's they

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cannot scale it bigger than the confines of the of

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the ice Hockey Stadium. But it's a nice one since

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they put the stages on both ends of the of

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the ring. So once once one band finished and you

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just walked to the other side, I think, and what's.

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The next band?

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Nice?

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Well yeah, see that's not so easy to say it, Rockville,

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because to walk to the other side is like.

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Yeah, like walking to Denmark, you know.

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Uh.

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I get like when I do a lot of festivals,

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I get like eighty miles walking in a whole weekend.

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You know, Like I also do Hellfest. Oh my god, that.

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Festival is huge. I love that. I love that festival.

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It's huge, and it's it's just insane, like the decorations

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there and what you know. It It is amazing how

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a lot of your European festivals they kind of like

465
00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:26.839
start really small and then they just end up like

466
00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:31.960
owning the whole property or city, Like you know, Healfest

467
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:36.920
pretty much owns Clisson and you got Vakin which pretty

468
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:41.119
much own that's its own city. And you know, it

469
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:45.680
is pretty amazing not only how they're run, but how

470
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:49.039
they've built these things from like nothing, from like little

471
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:50.240
teeny festivals.

472
00:28:50.599 --> 00:28:53.000
But that's that's also the nice thing about it. Like

473
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:57.079
it starts around the small town and that whole town

474
00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:01.480
will just live up to that festival whole year, and

475
00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:05.359
once it starts growing, they really get an attachment, yeah,

476
00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:11.480
the festival. So nobody of a neighbor's scarish that the

477
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:14.960
festival's there, because it's just that's their life. Basically, they're

478
00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:16.720
proud of it. I see.

479
00:29:16.759 --> 00:29:19.440
I love that attitude because you don't usually have that

480
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:23.960
attitude here in the States, Like even in the town

481
00:29:24.119 --> 00:29:26.079
next to me where I live in, they built this

482
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:29.839
whole area and this little amphitheater for bands to play,

483
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:35.440
but they built apartments there, and the people they ended

484
00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:38.680
up not using the amphitheater because all the people live

485
00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:42.559
in apartments complained, and I'm like, you know, the ampitheater

486
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:44.720
is going to be there, why you get the apartment there.

487
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.680
I would get the apartment there just because i'd have

488
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:51.839
a good view, you know, but and hear the music,

489
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:53.279
But I don't get it.

490
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:56.359
Like that's why I see too, Like.

491
00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:01.000
Here in the States, people will comp playing about every

492
00:30:01.079 --> 00:30:04.039
little thing I have festival, and I don't hear anybody

493
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:07.160
complain when I do the European or the UK festivals,

494
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.480
Like they're all and they're under some really bad conditions

495
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:17.000
sometimes and they're just like the culture of loving this

496
00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:19.799
stuff and loving the music. We're just talking about this

497
00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:21.839
in the last in the last interview, I was doing

498
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:26.039
like there are a lot of bands that were big

499
00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:29.759
in LA in the eighties that I thought were gone forever,

500
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:32.799
and it turned out they were just in Europe all

501
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:37.440
these years I was playing at the European festivals because

502
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:41.240
it's like you turn on the radio in Europe and

503
00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:45.839
it's like eighties radio, you know, and it's so wild.

504
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:53.680
So, speaking of eighties, where would you say your.

505
00:30:55.640 --> 00:30:59.799
Influences first came from to be it and to do

506
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:01.599
the type of music you do now.

507
00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:08.319
Yeah, it's a bit hard to say it like that

508
00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:12.200
we refer to the eighties because we're we're far away

509
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:12.880
from the eighties.

510
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:15.480
But that's why, you know why I said that.

511
00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:19.400
I said that because I saw Possessed in the very beginning,

512
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:22.960
and I think they pretty much started most anything that

513
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:23.839
had death in it.

514
00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:28.319
Yeah, of course it's a I'm really I'm really old

515
00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:31.559
school that metal guys, So that's where it came from

516
00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:36.599
for me. But yeah, I think I think mostly for

517
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:41.119
us we started back in twenty twelve. Mostly for us

518
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:44.920
came from the first wave of dead core, which started

519
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:49.440
around two thousand and six, two thousand and seven, and

520
00:31:50.759 --> 00:31:55.319
back then it grew out to a nice size, but

521
00:31:55.480 --> 00:32:02.200
it's stagnated. Around twenty twelve came became a bit more

522
00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:10.119
uh clustered, and that's also when downtemple dead core emerged.

523
00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:15.920
And for for us, as Europeans, especially dark Dutch people

524
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:20.640
were were a couple of years behind in our music genres.

525
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:26.680
So back when everybody here in the Netherlands was still

526
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:31.759
playing melodic ardcore because that's what was in in the

527
00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:35.519
US in two thousand and five or something, we were

528
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:42.039
picking up Deadcore and downtowp Downtemple. Deadcore as basically the

529
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:45.640
only band in the Netherlands and we got we got

530
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:51.519
booed a lot. So we exactly we directly started focusing

531
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:55.960
on going abroad, playing in playing in the UK because

532
00:32:56.720 --> 00:33:01.480
UK is is a bit more I had of the

533
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:05.480
of the mainland Europe in the music daste, so there

534
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:10.359
we got accepted and that's that's how it grew from there.

535
00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:14.559
So yeah, I think the main influences are really just

536
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:19.680
the old school death score of the first generation nice.

537
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:24.440
So saying that something popped into my head that I

538
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:27.000
wouldn't have even think to ask Toll while you were

539
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:30.039
talking about it, especially because they played at Rockville too.

540
00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:34.000
What's your opinion of like Bring Me to Rise and

541
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:37.599
originally being death core and now they're like, you know,

542
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:42.400
they're they're not what they originally were. They've evolved and

543
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:45.960
they're definitely far from death core now in some respects.

544
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:48.000
I mean, I love them so I'm not throwing a

545
00:33:48.200 --> 00:33:50.759
shade because I love them, but I'm not. I'm not

546
00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:54.519
wanting the original bring Me fans, Like if I was,

547
00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:57.640
i'd probably think differently. Just like I saw Metallica's first

548
00:33:57.680 --> 00:33:59.960
show ever when the Black album came out, I was like,

549
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:01.119
fucking posers.

550
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:02.400
I'm never listening to them again.

551
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:09.880
Yes, in my opinion, like Bring Me the Horizon is

552
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:15.760
an o G first generation death COO band because their

553
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:22.559
first album and uh Suicide Silence the Glansing album, those

554
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:25.119
two albums in two thousand and seven were really my thing.

555
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:32.880
Am I like to go to deathcore albums? It they

556
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:37.199
started evolving over the years. They did it pretty slow,

557
00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:41.440
but still they went far away from the from the

558
00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:46.440
dead core genre. So for me personally, I just didn't

559
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:50.960
keep track with it right just because yeah I did.

560
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:55.079
I didn't feel like their new music. I wasn't. I

561
00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:57.719
wasn't hating on them though, Like I don't think they're

562
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:00.760
they're poses because of it, and I would I would

563
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:02.840
still go to a show hoping that they play some

564
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:06.679
of their old stuff. But I think for them it

565
00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:07.760
worked out really.

566
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:10.880
Nice and they do have an amazing live show yea,

567
00:35:11.239 --> 00:35:11.559
and they.

568
00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:14.880
Got they got so big with it. And also I

569
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.280
think that it's just good for for dead core in

570
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:25.159
general because then the new generation of people getting loving

571
00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:28.639
Bring Me the Rise and will go to their older

572
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:31.400
albums and discover that they also got like a heavy

573
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:34.519
side and bring them into the heavy music. So I

574
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:38.719
think it's good for for us as a as a

575
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:42.239
genre as dead core that bands like Bringing the Horizon

576
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:46.039
are there to draw in the new kids, we discover

577
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:50.400
their old stuff. And I think especially now since Bring

578
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:53.880
Me the Rison is is going back to their roots

579
00:35:54.079 --> 00:36:00.519
and doing a show with the first album, so there's

580
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:05.840
still activity promoting it and nice to us as a genre.

581
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:09.639
Well, I love that answer because I agree with you

582
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:12.840
a million percent, And I have two responses to that.

583
00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:16.719
One is, you know, if it weren't for Metallica maybe

584
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:20.360
doing that black album, who knows, if we'd have two

585
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:23.159
hundred and ten thousand people that welcome to rock Pille

586
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:28.079
for metal, you know, like days And it's based on

587
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:31.199
what you just said, you know, it's like, you know

588
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:33.679
you're bringing new people, but then you go to the

589
00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:36.719
back catalog and that that is what happened with me

590
00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:40.760
would Bring Me to Horizon because I saw them for

591
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:44.920
the first time several years ago at a Danny Wimmer festival.

592
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:48.760
I didn't know them, and it was when That's the

593
00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:53.480
spirit came out and I was like, oh my god,

594
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:56.159
I love them because they had such a great live show.

595
00:36:56.719 --> 00:36:59.480
But to your point, that made.

596
00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:03.239
Me go back to their through their catalog to the beginning,

597
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:07.239
and I really loved their old stuff. So it was

598
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:11.320
like I am that example of you know, I wasn't

599
00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:14.119
inn og bring me the Rizon fan, so I didn't

600
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:17.920
have that, you know, oh man, they changed to they

601
00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:21.079
are thing. I had more of like, wow, they were

602
00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:23.280
really good live. Now let me check out the rest

603
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:24.000
of their music.

604
00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:30.280
Yeah exactly. Well, I even have to with some just

605
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:34.599
schedule friends who who aren't really that much into metal,

606
00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:36.519
but I do like bringing me to Rizon and they're

607
00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:39.599
always like, yeah, but I do love the old album

608
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:44.239
and just right, they like the newest, newer stuff, they

609
00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:49.400
can just accept the older stuff as well. And that's

610
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:52.679
the way I also expect accept what kind of music

611
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:53.639
that I'm making.

612
00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:58.599
Yeah exactly, And that's that is the point there, And

613
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:00.960
you know all we did make good point. In an

614
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:03.760
interview I heard him talking on where he said, why

615
00:38:03.800 --> 00:38:05.840
do I want to write the same song over and

616
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:09.159
over again, and I could see that. You know, like

617
00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:11.519
an artist you're doing for that may years, you want

618
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:13.639
to just keep writing the exact same thing over and

619
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:14.159
over again.

620
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:14.880
You kind of want to.

621
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:18.480
The whole thing of metal is experimentation, right, so you

622
00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:19.880
want to experiment what you can do.

623
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:25.039
It has two signs of the coin, to be honest, like,

624
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:28.840
I definitely agree to that. Like with metal, you can

625
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:32.800
just do whatever you want, but it goes both ways,

626
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:35.320
like for example, with us now and that's that's coming

627
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:39.280
back to your earlier question about about their new single

628
00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:43.800
and or previous singles as well, like or or for

629
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:50.599
first album was just really raw and unpolished. Then we

630
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:55.400
started experimenting polishing it up more with the previous albums.

631
00:38:56.119 --> 00:39:00.199
But now we're more like, yeah, let's let's just not

632
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:03.480
make it too polished. We we wanted rowst off again

633
00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:06.599
like on the first album, and that's that's that's what

634
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:09.119
you get now with this, with these newer singles, you

635
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:15.280
get the rollness of a first album. We careless what

636
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:19.440
other people think in a sense that we just want

637
00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:22.400
to do what we love and also feel like that

638
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:25.519
if if, if we do what we love. We will

639
00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:30.239
still have fans, We will still have people that like

640
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:32.920
us just because they see that we perform something that

641
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:35.159
we love to perform.

642
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:40.159
Yeah, totally, and I agree with that million percent because

643
00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:43.079
if you don't love it, how can you expect other

644
00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:45.559
people to love it? Like and people can tell when

645
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:49.480
you're just forcing it or if you're doing because that's who.

646
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:54.559
You are exactly. Yeah, that's that's the typical sell out.

647
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:56.159
Bend, right right.

648
00:39:56.760 --> 00:39:59.280
But you know to your point what you're saying, and

649
00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:01.880
I think that holds true to what you said about

650
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:04.039
bringing the Rising going back and they're going to play

651
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:07.760
their full album or even Metallica because some of their

652
00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:12.719
newest stuff is to me, reminds me of the Kill

653
00:40:12.719 --> 00:40:16.039
Them All days, you know. And so the way I

654
00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:19.039
kind of put it now as an adult exposed to

655
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:24.159
acting like a teenager, is well, maybe they did it

656
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:29.719
a certain way for a while, but now that enabled

657
00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:32.480
them to go back to their roots and people want

658
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:35.440
to listen to it, and now you've reached the masses

659
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:38.559
and now they'll hear it because otherwise how many people

660
00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:39.719
have heard Kill Them All?

661
00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:45.440
Exactly? Yeah, So it's it's it's it's maybe part of

662
00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:47.760
the evolution of a of a smart band.

663
00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:49.639
There it is, there, it is.

664
00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:52.760
Well, you guys are a smart band because you're doing

665
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:56.880
exactly that. And you killed it at Welcome to Rockville

666
00:40:57.559 --> 00:41:00.880
and uh, you know this new song.

667
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:04.760
Oh my god, it's just it's just rat torture.

668
00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:05.039
Man.

669
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:11.360
Yeah, I wonder if you could do like science experiments

670
00:41:11.400 --> 00:41:14.800
and put rats in like a lab and play your

671
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:18.440
song to them and see if they feel tortured by it.

672
00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:26.880
That's a whole different story. But on the other I

673
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:32.519
am a scientist actually working in cancer research. We are

674
00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:37.280
putting rats to the test, but that's with cancer medicine,

675
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:39.159
not with a music there you go.

676
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:41.199
Yeah, one of my best bros.

677
00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:45.440
He's also a scientist that's working on proteins to cure cancer.

678
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:49.320
So man, you guys are doing great work for sure.

679
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:54.480
See you're helping the world with these diseases, and then

680
00:41:54.519 --> 00:41:57.840
you're helping the world with mental issues with your music

681
00:41:57.920 --> 00:41:59.679
because music is the best therapy.

682
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:01.920
I agree. Yeah.

683
00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:05.719
And the last thing is tell everybody, first of all,

684
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:10.800
how to connect you on socials and more importantly, had

685
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:13.679
to buy your merch a because they can't listen to

686
00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:15.599
my show. And let's say buy your merch because it's

687
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:18.719
the only way bands get the next gig nowadays. B

688
00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:22.480
I was looking through your merch store. I was like, man,

689
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.280
you have a lot of badass merch.

690
00:42:26.840 --> 00:42:29.000
Yeah, we really love a merch game.

691
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:32.239
Oh my god, some of it's so cool.

692
00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:37.400
Yeah, well you can get it on a distantofficial dot com.

693
00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:42.239
I have to ship everything from air fio that we

694
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:45.639
do ship it from the Netherlands, and I think that

695
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:48.840
that's also the best way to stay connected besides just

696
00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:52.639
the general Instagram and Facebook.

697
00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:54.599
Nice.

698
00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:57.440
And I also have to ask you, okay because I

699
00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:01.159
can't see clearly, but behind you, is that all your

700
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:03.199
like artist passes from your gigs?

701
00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:06.320
Yeah? Exactly, nice section.

702
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:08.840
I love how you did that.

703
00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:12.199
Like, I have all my credentials, but they're like stuffed

704
00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:14.079
in a bag and a drawer somewhere.

705
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:15.239
I like what you did there.

706
00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:18.880
That's a waste. I love looking at them and just

707
00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:22.800
having a glimpse of them just gives you motivation.

708
00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:27.239
Yeah, totally, That's why I'm seeing man like, hmm, maybe

709
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that's what I should do in my studio with all

710
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of you.

711
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I love it. Well, you guys are badass.

712
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Everybody's got to check you out they got to buy

713
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:40.679
your merch and definitely look forward to seeing a lot

714
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:44.000
more of you at the US festivals and I hope

715
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:45.960
I catch you at a European festival too.

716
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Yeah, hopefully without a dinner storm this time.

717
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And I know, right, I know right, we don't want that,

718
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but you know it's part of it though, right, you

719
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got you got to weather the storm and when you're

720
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me ahead for sure checking you. Thanks a lot for

721
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being on the Adventures of pipe Man.

722
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Thanks very much.

723
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Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipemin on

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w for c u I Radio.